@216StealthSS damn right. i own a 1994 camaro z28 but i love mustangs just as much. i dont know why people argue. we should be focused on kickin those ricers off our roads!
everyone stop bitching, couldnt you tell this mustang was turbo, you could see the boost gauges clearly it means nothing if both of the cars arent stock OEM if they arent OEM then its custom work and anyone can make any car just as fast as another its just how stuff comes from the factory that competition, hell i could make a honda civic hatch faster than both of these with the right amount of money? if the camaro was turbo it would be faster though
lol its funny how camaro ppl be sayin tht the ls1 motor was the shit and was better than the mutang motor. if i remember correctly mustang came out with the cobra R in 2000 with a 5.4 liter motor makin about 390 hp
@rjhodges I wasn't saying its like the 2006 model they released an Italian concept in 2006 in which the camaro design was based off of. Pay attention to what was said before you smart off.
The only reason chevy started re-making the camaros was because of the transformers movie in 07. they wanted the money from the movie so they copied and italian mustang concept that premiered in 2006 and stuck a chevy emblem in it. Transformers producers were going to drop chevy if they couldnt come up with something for the movie so they copied ford yet again. They will never touch The mustang. ever.
@Heylee1219 The 2010 Camaro and the 2006 Mustang are not even alike. They have different body structures. . Mustangs and Camaros are both great cars. They both have their ups and downs. If you want to hate on the Camaro, go somewhere else.
Camaro had the upperhand when Ford started using the 4.6 besides that it was mustang kicking camaro butt.mustang always gave more bang for your buck especially the 5.0 fox "79-93".listen I owned a 90 camaro,a turbo 1989 rx-7.I played with all the American muscle cars and after it was all done mustang wins the hearts of America number one car of all time.it's more to a car besides speed
@TheDartblockstang you are saying the 79-83 Fox bodys were faster which is untrue the 5.7 camaro was a little faster. From there the camaro came out with the LT1 and mustang couldn't even come close to it and then the LS1 kept beating Mustangs untill 2011 so what is 20 years of dominance. The mustang is a good car don't get me wrong but a big reason why it has outsold the camaro until 2010 is because A LOT of girls like mustangs and they buy the v6
Haha that's what he gets for putting stickers on his back window of him catching a mustang.After all Henry Ford built the first V8 made from one solid piece of metal then finally decided to sell the blueprints to chevy.camaro came out to compete with mustang in other words it's a copycat of the mustang.FORD was winning races with their V8's before gm even figured out how to build one or till FORD showed them how.
@TheDartblockstang I have no idea if what your saying is true but if it is. The camaro has been way better than the mustang for so many years up until 2011 and that is when ford finally the stang faster than the camaro. The camaro had been so much faster for years so say what you want but the camaro on average has been the better car than the mustang.
@TheDartblockstang The camaro and SBC actually exist because after Ford created the pony car and V8, chevy realized how much they sucked so made far better ones, FTW
@rayadicto Let me just get this straight your 5.0 can beat a ZR1 because that is what the ls9 is in and it makes 638bhp and the z06s have the ls7 which is 505bhp. If this is true then your car has to be modded A LOT because even a stock vs. stock race between a 5.0 and ls3 the ls3 will win fairly easily
uve probably been racing the ls3...not a new ls9 the ls9's come stock in the z06 corvettes it would some the 5.0 mustang easy because the z06 has been proven to whip up on shelby gt 500's and there pushin over 500 hp stock so race a ls9 and u will get ur first lose
@blackcamaro44 not trying to flame you or anything just wanted to correct your mistakes. The ls9 was put on the ZR1 which started in summer of 09 so its been out. The ls7 was put in the z06 in '06 I believe.
@anthony4378 If you don't know shit about cars shut the fuck up! i OWN a 2011 mustang and it makes 412 HP STOCK!! and i have yet to lose a race against a 2010 camaro
ok ok ya the new 5.0 mustng is sweet but what aout the ls9 camaros comin out...uhm i have a feeling that pony isnt gonna have enough run o keep upwith the camaro
@blackcamaro44 You're right, the LS9 CAmaro makes about 540HP, it does 0-60 in about 3.8 seconds...it's a supercharged V8. Finally, GM makes a supercharged V8 to challenge the Mustang's supercharged V8's.
@Quatermain98526 0-60 in 3.8 seconds is what the z06 with the LS7 and the LS9 ZR1 has been know to pull a 0-60 of seconds flat but its more common to do it in 3.3sec. GM made the the supercharged V8 to compete against supercars not against the Mustangs that's why they compare it to Lamborghinis, Ferraris, etc.
still slow haha. then what the fuck is the camaro a fucking turtle. 5.0 12.8 LS3 13.0. you need to look about facts about cars and shut the fuck up. you dont know shit about cars.
@Anthony4378 According to your logic, a Mustang GT that produces 412 horsepower and 390 ft. lbs. of torque with 5.0L (smaller displacement than a Camaro) and can go from 0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds stock will get its ass handed to it by a Z28? I don't know about you but 4.3 seconds used to be considered supercar numbers and is 1.2 seconds faster than the 1998-2002 Z26's 5.5 second 0-60 mph and quicker than the old Z28's 7.4 seconds.
@Anthony4378 Let me explain it. The 5.0L is naturally aspirated (not supercharged) and produces 412 horsepower. Add a supercharger on and it will only make more.
@tyIerz06 I just looked up the Hp ratings on the mustang. the 2010 GT makes 315hp not 412. The 2004 SVT Cobra makes 390 but its factory supercharged. So i'd like to know where u found a 412 hp mustang.
@Anthony4378 They already did runs and comparisons, the 2011 Mustang GT clocked in at 4.3 seconds from 0-60 while the Camaro SS clocked in at 4.6 seconds.
@Camarosindahood sorry sir but you are incorrect. Since 1996 when the SS made a return there have been z28s and SS in the same year. The differences were the exhaust, ram air hood(fully functional), and the SS spoiler. With the new camaro they are going to make the z28 faster than the SS(supposedly). I don't think they have announced if they are going to produce the z28 yet
@RaNdY04gt please show me a link to a 5.0 running even a low 13 stock, k thanks cause itll never happen. Your dumb as hell to think a smaller motor with less hp and tq by almost 100hp&tq in a heavier car will keep up with a 5.7L chevy. An ls1 is 98% identical to an ls7, learn your facts bitch
see the problem is that the rods in the mustangs cant handel turbos so if too much psi is applied they blow. i like both cars but like the looks of the 98-02 camaro ss better, but like the ride height in the mustang better, so its a close one for me, though i like the ls1 better than any other engine on the market.
The LS6= boosted, which comes with a lower compression ratio, 9:1? Which means it can handle more boost without detonation, not just because of weak rods(as i stated before) IDK if LS-6s are forged or not but even if they are not they could most likeley take more boost than LS-1s due to the reduced compression ratio, the same goes for mustangs vs LS-1s.
so yah I much rather have a car that comes w less power stock n that can b modified 2 b a beast, than a car that already cums w more power n im just gonna b spending money like a dumb ass fixin up a car thats gonna give me very little results u feel me! so yah get 4 real peeps! if u into street racing who doesnt wanna have a turbo or a supercharger in their ride??? lol shit i know I do!
look u can prtty much buy anycar now days n make it fast! like homeboy over here said it all depends on what u wanna spend on ur car! but u cant b ignorant n say oh its not fair ford motors r built 2 respond well w forced induction bla bla! ok then dont put no forced induction ur ur lame ass camaro! n its just gonna end up slower than the stang either way! as I c it, the quality of the engine is a motor that u can get a lot more power outta it w mods!
In MM&FF or 5.0 magazine they did a comparsion, same compression same turbos same trim and same psi ran on both cars.
Car 1 was a 96 mustang cobra, it was white(4v)
Car 2 was an LS-1 camaro
They both recived the same mods down to the T and the cobra made something like 200whp MORE than the LS-1 they were both big power cars with the cobra making 1300somethingwhp and the LS-1 making 1100somethingwhp, but weighing in a little heavier than the cobra.
I havent seen that article so I cannot comment on that. My point was: I can make a Fiat Panda rund faster than a Ferrari, IF I SPEND ENOUGH MONEY ON MODS! Just strap a booster rocket on it. U follow. Its all about how much money you put into mods. Thats Y I say only race is stock vs stock.
no dude, your point is invalid. Let me choose some mods for an LS1 and place the same mods on a Mustang. So lets see who gets the best performance.... thats just very ignorant.
oistein74....Putting the same mods on 2 different motors? Fords respond better to forced induction, they come out of the factory with stronger bottom ends. Also you're being ignorant....the mustang has 4.6L vs the Camaro's 5.7L...the stang will be easier to mod for big hp than the camaro. People are lying when they say they're making 500hp on a stock 5.7L with just some "minor" cam work. Please! They have rebuilt the damn motor on the maro for that kind of power.
do you even understand english? English is my 2nd language and it seems I have to repeat myself here... cobra engine is built for boost. LSx series is NOT, so with a same size large turbo on both you dont need to be a rocket scientist to guess the outcome. Is everybody retarded here? Once you start making a mod u might as well tear off the factory brand. No longer a ford or chevy of fuckwhatever.. its a tuner. And how fast is it? -depends on ure mods of choise and WALLET..
Like i said in my first post the mod motors respond better to boost. the LSx makes much more power when cammed or sprayed but the mustang comes out of the box with decently low compression compared to the 10:1? of the LSx im not that familliar with the CRs and such, but i know its higher than the mustang hence why they mustangs)make better power f/i out of the box compared to the LSx series and the same goes for high compression and spray, also more cubes yeild more power N/A thats obvious.
Are you talking about 03-04 cobra motors, cause of course stock for stock they can handle more boost because they are purpose built for that. I cant deny that the 4valve motor is a very stout motor, but a buddy of mine just put 4 pounds of boost on an 04 GT and didnt get 300 miles before he blew a head gasket and possibly cracked a head. I have respect for ford i was just raised around chevys.
No, all 4vs and even 2vs provided they are not NPIs with a PI swap have lower compression. Not trying to insult you but do you know how F/I and compression ratio works? Maybe you should look into it a litlte bit. Yes the 03/04 can handle more boost because it is forged, but ALSO because the compression ratio is 8.5:1 so it can handle more boost without detonation,(not because of weak internals). The same goes for other 4vs the 96s-98 cobras are like 9.3:1 or so while the LS-1s are higher10:1orso
Yes i know about compression, thats y i said the 03-04 cobra are able to handle more boost because of the combination of forged internals and low compression.
got a question for you man about superchargers since you seem to know a lot about mustangs......if i ran a supercharger in my 06 GT what is the recommended psi for a 4.6?
nobody recommends more than 8psi on stock internals... specially since the 4.6 in a SOCH not a pushrood. U deff wanna stay at 8. The meggie in my goat was running on roughly 10psi, but the LS1's can handle much more then the 4.6 SOCH stang engines. Also a friend of mine has an 08 GT and they bough all their upgrades trough ford. and it's all insured. (Roush Supercharger 8psi)
oh btw the stang is a SOHC(single overhead cam) not a SOCH lol, and due to the LS-1s being a stock high compression engine, they can't handle as much boost (stock), but can destroy the 4.6 in Naturally Aspirated or sprayed power stock. The RoushChargers BLOW! and its not all in how much boost you push, its how good your heads and intake flow, you can make more power on 8 lbs with ported Heads n intake vs 10 lbs on a stock intake and heads.
same for the LS1...you get a alot more power with 8 lbs of boost on a ls1 than 10 lbs of boost from a 4.6. mustangs usually get about 350 rwhp with 8 lbs of boost...about the same as a LS1 with just full exhaust and good tune
thats true. i installed an SLP and pacestter LT'swith catless exhaust with no tune on my '01 ws6 and ran a 12.51 at 114.32mph. and only spent $650! LS motors are definitely top dog.
Are you dumb? Go see if a lsi can handle 17psi stock internals. It cant and I know that for a fact. My 2v did. My buddies vette didnt handle 12psi without it popping. Ford motors handle boost alot better then Ls motors. Every car guy knows that. Ls motors like nitros thats it
i'm not saying you can't make power with a 4.6...the only way to make decent power with a 4.6 is boost. with a ls1 you have so many options. you can easily ge 450-500 rwhp with just h/c/i. its much cheaper and easier to get 450 rwhp on a ls1 than a 4.6 2 valve.
Yes that I will agree with you on. But you have to keep in mind that the Ls1 has much more hp so thats why it is easy and cheaper. I was just saying that they hold boost better then ls motors. I mean I have a 2v and I don't think they suck but there deff not even close to how goos a 4v cobra motor is. Dont get me wrong I have respect for LS motors. I dont know how you can't. But im strickly a ford guy.
Well really its all in the tune, 10psi even is fine for the 96-04 GTs, the s197s(05+) can handle close to 500whp safeley on stock internals, i'd say with 12lbs and a good tune, you should be fine, thats not to say nothing can happen, just make sure you take it to a reptutible shop to be tuned get a wideband sensor to keep track of A/F ratio and you'll be allright. Intercooled through a 3v 12 lbs you're probably looking at 480ishwhp. I know a guy making 512 on stock intenrals and hes finefornow
Damn ok was I the only one that saw everything the camaro had under the hood? I wanna know what the mustang had cuz fuken shit that thing is fast as fuk! But yah to me 5.0's n 03 04 cobras all the way!
I love chevy engines (LS1-2-6-and 7) but uh, the camaro has looked like complete dog shit since the 70's. This camaro looks like a wedge. It has no style, no curves, nothing. I guess it don't look that bad, but still, the mustang has always, and will always have more style than the camaro. Put an LS7 in the new GT's and you have the perfect car.
LoL @ all the stock for stock bullshit, maybe thats why we buy mustangs cause we don't plan on leaving em stock, mustangs respond very well to forced induction.
The modular mustang motor responds better to boost than LS-1s..
LS-1s respond better to a cam and well i guess you could give them spray, it depends which way you wanna go with your car, not how much you wanna spend.
Im not saying LS-1s can't be turboed or put under forced induction but a mustang, espically a 4v will respond better and make more power under forced induction. At the same PSI on less cubes the mustang will make more power. This is a fact, also, take into consideration a mustang weighs a few 100 lbs less than a camaro, so built stangs vs built f-bodys, fbodys do not win EVERY time. theres alot of variables. see above post ran out of characters.
Stock for stock, an LS1 Camaro can completely waste a 1999+ Mustang GT with its 4.6 SOHC. Not to mention the camaro is cheaper insurance with how many girls drive mustangs over camaros.
lol ive owned both z28 camaro and gt mustang the camaro insurance was higher, and whats wrong with a girl driving and car with a v8 in it, especially a american car. Thats sexy as hell to me.
are you retarded the camaro was turbo also did you not see the intake tubes, im pretty damn sure they wernt ran down towards the radiator to get colder air.
unlike everyone else i will say nice video wish it was a little longer...what have you done to your mustang and any idea on whats been done to the camaro?
on good tires stock 02 ss camaros run low 13's stock mach 1 run like 13.4 very close race..... the record for that camaro style stock is a 12.88 as for the mach 1 the record for that stock in the quarter is13.00.... just something to think about
lol Nope. The Ford GT X-1 will smash a ZR1 into nothing. Infact, the ZR1 would get a new pussy ripped open racing one. And I'd love to race a ZR1 in my Cobra. My power to weight ratio is a little better, but my aerodynamics arent. It would be a nice stand off.
Leave it to the Chevy guy to try and cheat!
jeremiah0bobbiejo 1 week ago
that mustang has soo much shit done to it, and that camaro is totally stock
njrobar23 6 months ago
Was funny when I saw the bike joining in
jasonnelson142001 8 months ago
@216StealthSS damn right. i own a 1994 camaro z28 but i love mustangs just as much. i dont know why people argue. we should be focused on kickin those ricers off our roads!
tbktm 8 months ago
my 2000 jetta is better :)
SiiKxKiiLLer 8 months ago
everyone stop bitching, couldnt you tell this mustang was turbo, you could see the boost gauges clearly it means nothing if both of the cars arent stock OEM if they arent OEM then its custom work and anyone can make any car just as fast as another its just how stuff comes from the factory that competition, hell i could make a honda civic hatch faster than both of these with the right amount of money? if the camaro was turbo it would be faster though
CJeery83 11 months ago
lol its funny how camaro ppl be sayin tht the ls1 motor was the shit and was better than the mutang motor. if i remember correctly mustang came out with the cobra R in 2000 with a 5.4 liter motor makin about 390 hp
bladingpro 11 months ago
@bladingpro and i remember that cobra gettin its ass handed to it by the camaros still , so they had to throw a super charger on it
bhaenn 6 months ago
@rjhodges I wasn't saying its like the 2006 model they released an Italian concept in 2006 in which the camaro design was based off of. Pay attention to what was said before you smart off.
Heylee1219 11 months ago
The only reason chevy started re-making the camaros was because of the transformers movie in 07. they wanted the money from the movie so they copied and italian mustang concept that premiered in 2006 and stuck a chevy emblem in it. Transformers producers were going to drop chevy if they couldnt come up with something for the movie so they copied ford yet again. They will never touch The mustang. ever.
Heylee1219 1 year ago
@Heylee1219 The 2010 Camaro and the 2006 Mustang are not even alike. They have different body structures. . Mustangs and Camaros are both great cars. They both have their ups and downs. If you want to hate on the Camaro, go somewhere else.
rjhodges1 11 months ago
just like a ford always pulling a head
Mr95cobra 1 year ago 4
@Mr95cobra you mean always blowing a head and leaking oil on the ground?
CJeery83 11 months ago
@Mr95cobra Only because it isn't a stock mustang.
xPengwinsx 8 months ago
@Mr95cobra that ford is superchargered? what a shit... camaro is superchargered ? what a shit if its superchargered rape by a 4.6 little ford...
manuelagrasrodriguez 5 months ago
camaro got its ass whooped in this video go mustang!
almostsk8er85 1 year ago
Camaro had the upperhand when Ford started using the 4.6 besides that it was mustang kicking camaro butt.mustang always gave more bang for your buck especially the 5.0 fox "79-93".listen I owned a 90 camaro,a turbo 1989 rx-7.I played with all the American muscle cars and after it was all done mustang wins the hearts of America number one car of all time.it's more to a car besides speed
TheDartblockstang 1 year ago
@TheDartblockstang thats funny because the Camaro has been faster for a little while. Camaro eats Mustangs.
Jay500500500 1 year ago
@TheDartblockstang you are saying the 79-83 Fox bodys were faster which is untrue the 5.7 camaro was a little faster. From there the camaro came out with the LT1 and mustang couldn't even come close to it and then the LS1 kept beating Mustangs untill 2011 so what is 20 years of dominance. The mustang is a good car don't get me wrong but a big reason why it has outsold the camaro until 2010 is because A LOT of girls like mustangs and they buy the v6
raulz28 1 year ago
@raulz28 The 5.7 tpi models were a little faster... but they were rare and hardly anyone has them
Texarmageddon 9 months ago
Haha that's what he gets for putting stickers on his back window of him catching a mustang.After all Henry Ford built the first V8 made from one solid piece of metal then finally decided to sell the blueprints to chevy.camaro came out to compete with mustang in other words it's a copycat of the mustang.FORD was winning races with their V8's before gm even figured out how to build one or till FORD showed them how.
TheDartblockstang 1 year ago
@TheDartblockstang I have no idea if what your saying is true but if it is. The camaro has been way better than the mustang for so many years up until 2011 and that is when ford finally the stang faster than the camaro. The camaro had been so much faster for years so say what you want but the camaro on average has been the better car than the mustang.
raulz28 1 year ago
@TheDartblockstang The camaro and SBC actually exist because after Ford created the pony car and V8, chevy realized how much they sucked so made far better ones, FTW
mhansen146 1 year ago
I meant to say the ZR1 has done 0-60 in 3 sec flat
raulz28 1 year ago
hahah poor camaro...ford all day!!
flachho 1 year ago
@flachho too bad it was turbo'd
jp198780 1 year ago
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nite287 1 year ago
Nope LS9, they cant beat my 5.0 :-) i dont even waste my gas on the LS3's that try to race me
rayadicto 1 year ago
@rayadicto Let me just get this straight your 5.0 can beat a ZR1 because that is what the ls9 is in and it makes 638bhp and the z06s have the ls7 which is 505bhp. If this is true then your car has to be modded A LOT because even a stock vs. stock race between a 5.0 and ls3 the ls3 will win fairly easily
raulz28 1 year ago
lol friends having fun
jrockdaman2 1 year ago
uve probably been racing the ls3...not a new ls9 the ls9's come stock in the z06 corvettes it would some the 5.0 mustang easy because the z06 has been proven to whip up on shelby gt 500's and there pushin over 500 hp stock so race a ls9 and u will get ur first lose
blackcamaro44 1 year ago
@blackcamaro44 not trying to flame you or anything just wanted to correct your mistakes. The ls9 was put on the ZR1 which started in summer of 09 so its been out. The ls7 was put in the z06 in '06 I believe.
raulz28 1 year ago
@anthony4378 If you don't know shit about cars shut the fuck up! i OWN a 2011 mustang and it makes 412 HP STOCK!! and i have yet to lose a race against a 2010 camaro
rayadicto 1 year ago
@rayadicto
Hey Ray, your mustang gt is actually laying down about 435hp.....nice car bro.!!!!
Ford underrated its hp and when Motor trend stuck it on the dyno they said it was layin down more than 412hp.
mistress313 1 year ago
ok ok ya the new 5.0 mustng is sweet but what aout the ls9 camaros comin out...uhm i have a feeling that pony isnt gonna have enough run o keep upwith the camaro
blackcamaro44 1 year ago
@blackcamaro44 You're right, the LS9 CAmaro makes about 540HP, it does 0-60 in about 3.8 seconds...it's a supercharged V8. Finally, GM makes a supercharged V8 to challenge the Mustang's supercharged V8's.
Quatermain98526 1 year ago
@Quatermain98526 0-60 in 3.8 seconds is what the z06 with the LS7 and the LS9 ZR1 has been know to pull a 0-60 of seconds flat but its more common to do it in 3.3sec. GM made the the supercharged V8 to compete against supercars not against the Mustangs that's why they compare it to Lamborghinis, Ferraris, etc.
raulz28 1 year ago
yea i have a z myself with work done.even when it was stock it could walk all over some mustang with minor things done to it
blackcamaro44 1 year ago
LMAO at the bike. Lost to both cars, he must have went home sad that day. SICK stang, turbo v8 is almost not fair
cmigneco 1 year ago
i like that sticker on the back of that camaro lol
texasmademexican100 1 year ago
haha the mustang is turbo and barely beat the maro
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378
barely since when is barely 3 car lengths
RaNdY04gt 1 year ago
@RaNdY04gt It pulled away really slow from a n/a maro. Face it mustangs are SSSLLLOOOOOOOWWW!!! and a disgrace to American muscle cars.
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378
5.0 go fuck yourself
RaNdY04gt 1 year ago
@RaNdY04gt still slow, go fuck yourself
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378
still slow haha. then what the fuck is the camaro a fucking turtle. 5.0 12.8 LS3 13.0. you need to look about facts about cars and shut the fuck up. you dont know shit about cars.
RaNdY04gt 1 year ago
@RaNdY04gt i know fords are some slow pieces of shit and a stock gt mustang will never beat a stock z28. you sir dont know shit about cars #LOL :)
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378 According to your logic, a Mustang GT that produces 412 horsepower and 390 ft. lbs. of torque with 5.0L (smaller displacement than a Camaro) and can go from 0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds stock will get its ass handed to it by a Z28? I don't know about you but 4.3 seconds used to be considered supercar numbers and is 1.2 seconds faster than the 1998-2002 Z26's 5.5 second 0-60 mph and quicker than the old Z28's 7.4 seconds.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 that piece of shit wouldnyt make 412hp if ot was supercharged
Anthony4378 1 year ago
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tyIerz06 1 year ago
@Anthony4378 Yes it would make more.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 No.
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378 Yes.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 No!
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378 Let me explain it. The 5.0L is naturally aspirated (not supercharged) and produces 412 horsepower. Add a supercharger on and it will only make more.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 I just looked up the Hp ratings on the mustang. the 2010 GT makes 315hp not 412. The 2004 SVT Cobra makes 390 but its factory supercharged. So i'd like to know where u found a 412 hp mustang.
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378 You're right the 2010 Mustang GT makes 315 horsepower with the 4.6L V8. Now look up the 2011 Mustang GT's specs; 412 horsepower 5.0L V8.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 ehh camaro still gonna be faster
Anthony4378 1 year ago
@Anthony4378 They already did runs and comparisons, the 2011 Mustang GT clocked in at 4.3 seconds from 0-60 while the Camaro SS clocked in at 4.6 seconds.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
How does the 2011 Mustang GT pair up with the 2011 Camaro Z28, which has the 6.2 S/C V8 with 540 HP.
Quatermain98526 1 year ago
@Quatermain98526 How does the z28 pair up to the super snake?
The battle will never stop...lol
mistress313 1 year ago
@Quatermain98526 The Z28 either goes up against the GT500, GT500KR, or the GT500 Super Snake; and the power numbers haven't been confirmed yet.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 false. the z28 goes against the GT.
Camarosindahood 1 year ago
@Camarosindahood No, the V6 goes against the V6 Mustang, the SS goes against the GT, and the Z28 goes against the GT500.
tyIerz06 1 year ago
@tyIerz06 false again. the z28 is the same level as the ss. they were never in the same year of camaro, so they were used interchangably
Camarosindahood 1 year ago
@Camarosindahood sorry sir but you are incorrect. Since 1996 when the SS made a return there have been z28s and SS in the same year. The differences were the exhaust, ram air hood(fully functional), and the SS spoiler. With the new camaro they are going to make the z28 faster than the SS(supposedly). I don't think they have announced if they are going to produce the z28 yet
raulz28 1 year ago
@Camarosindahood You are so clueless.
tyIerz06 1 year ago 3
@tyIerz06 fuck you
Camarosindahood 1 year ago
@RaNdY04gt please show me a link to a 5.0 running even a low 13 stock, k thanks cause itll never happen. Your dumb as hell to think a smaller motor with less hp and tq by almost 100hp&tq in a heavier car will keep up with a 5.7L chevy. An ls1 is 98% identical to an ls7, learn your facts bitch
cmigneco 1 year ago
@yobrehwheredagreen hell yeah
kingdonnis 1 year ago
lmfao yall so lucky, even had dude on the bike racing...that was raw..that stang got heat tho
deadmemories831 1 year ago
PADIDDLE!!!
DeadPuppyCC 1 year ago
yea, definitly sounded like a turbo on that mustang.
motostud08 1 year ago
wtf!!! the guy on the bike...epic!!!
xHypothermiax 1 year ago
turbo mustang vs non turbo camaro not really the same car
harrison2244 1 year ago
First On Race Day
RoidinRichie 2 years ago
fast only rolling downhill****
ZeeTwentyAte 2 years ago
It may not have as much boost but it is a bigger engine which in turn will have more hp
10spokess 2 years ago
bigger engines dont always have more hp.
airsoftg0d 2 years ago
Holy turbo wistle. Was the Camaro turbo too?
wildbloodydragon 2 years ago
@wildbloodydragon na it wasnt look under the hood last second looks to me theres no sign of turbo or sc but there was a after market intake forsure
sparkalanio 1 year ago
nice
abo0od1986 2 years ago
lol the bike in the background haha
dodge2289 2 years ago
idk what it is but the camaros look like the ls1 is just crammed into place. is there space in there?
Mangobrain82 2 years ago
No, not at all.
JimmieBrunning 2 years ago
damn, so how the fuck do they fit turbo or any kind of intake plumbing. i bet workin on em is a bitch
Mangobrain82 2 years ago
I really don't know haha. I can't even reach the back half of the engine.
JimmieBrunning 2 years ago
damn. i have yet to look at a new camaro.
Mangobrain82 2 years ago
fuck ya mustang!!!!!! even takes the bike
kcscrewstone 2 years ago
MUSTANG!!!
MrSHELBYCOBRA 2 years ago
5.0 turbo'd
CALIRACER69 2 years ago
Forget either of them a 997 Twin-turbo would kick both their asses.... hell a Boxter would too.
Admit599 2 years ago
shut the fuck up
tzskateworks 2 years ago
Go fuck ur mom in the ass?
Admit599 2 years ago
997 cost 7 times more than any of those cars. and a boxer would get OWNED BIG TIME!!!
ricerslayer 2 years ago
haha yeah.. OKAY kid. Fucking idiot.
Admit599 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA... that bike got smoked!!!!
speeddemon0712 2 years ago
see the problem is that the rods in the mustangs cant handel turbos so if too much psi is applied they blow. i like both cars but like the looks of the 98-02 camaro ss better, but like the ride height in the mustang better, so its a close one for me, though i like the ls1 better than any other engine on the market.
Theautotech 2 years ago
the 96-98 cobras have 9.85:1 compression for the record...I owned a 97 and still have the svt booklet that tells all the info
midnight347 3 years ago
The LS6= boosted, which comes with a lower compression ratio, 9:1? Which means it can handle more boost without detonation, not just because of weak rods(as i stated before) IDK if LS-6s are forged or not but even if they are not they could most likeley take more boost than LS-1s due to the reduced compression ratio, the same goes for mustangs vs LS-1s.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago
I hate to break it to you dog but ls1 have lower compression then ls6. Ls1 have 10:1 Ls6 have 10.5:1
jons2000camaro 2 years ago
I would love to own either one of 'em
horacehorsecollar20 3 years ago
so yah I much rather have a car that comes w less power stock n that can b modified 2 b a beast, than a car that already cums w more power n im just gonna b spending money like a dumb ass fixin up a car thats gonna give me very little results u feel me! so yah get 4 real peeps! if u into street racing who doesnt wanna have a turbo or a supercharger in their ride??? lol shit i know I do!
papidodgers 3 years ago
look u can prtty much buy anycar now days n make it fast! like homeboy over here said it all depends on what u wanna spend on ur car! but u cant b ignorant n say oh its not fair ford motors r built 2 respond well w forced induction bla bla! ok then dont put no forced induction ur ur lame ass camaro! n its just gonna end up slower than the stang either way! as I c it, the quality of the engine is a motor that u can get a lot more power outta it w mods!
papidodgers 3 years ago
In MM&FF or 5.0 magazine they did a comparsion, same compression same turbos same trim and same psi ran on both cars.
Car 1 was a 96 mustang cobra, it was white(4v)
Car 2 was an LS-1 camaro
They both recived the same mods down to the T and the cobra made something like 200whp MORE than the LS-1 they were both big power cars with the cobra making 1300somethingwhp and the LS-1 making 1100somethingwhp, but weighing in a little heavier than the cobra.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago 2
I havent seen that article so I cannot comment on that. My point was: I can make a Fiat Panda rund faster than a Ferrari, IF I SPEND ENOUGH MONEY ON MODS! Just strap a booster rocket on it. U follow. Its all about how much money you put into mods. Thats Y I say only race is stock vs stock.
oistein74 3 years ago
Like i said, same mods = same money... mustang came out on top, your point is invalid.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago
no dude, your point is invalid. Let me choose some mods for an LS1 and place the same mods on a Mustang. So lets see who gets the best performance.... thats just very ignorant.
oistein74 3 years ago
oistein74....Putting the same mods on 2 different motors? Fords respond better to forced induction, they come out of the factory with stronger bottom ends. Also you're being ignorant....the mustang has 4.6L vs the Camaro's 5.7L...the stang will be easier to mod for big hp than the camaro. People are lying when they say they're making 500hp on a stock 5.7L with just some "minor" cam work. Please! They have rebuilt the damn motor on the maro for that kind of power.
fitz207 3 years ago
do you even understand english? English is my 2nd language and it seems I have to repeat myself here... cobra engine is built for boost. LSx series is NOT, so with a same size large turbo on both you dont need to be a rocket scientist to guess the outcome. Is everybody retarded here? Once you start making a mod u might as well tear off the factory brand. No longer a ford or chevy of fuckwhatever.. its a tuner. And how fast is it? -depends on ure mods of choise and WALLET..
oistein74 3 years ago
MrJ0ne5...Thank you! Someone finally stating facts on here!
fitz207 3 years ago
I cant comment on the article but from my experience LS1's responds to mods a little better than mustangs....
2000LS1CamaroSS 3 years ago 2
Like i said in my first post the mod motors respond better to boost. the LSx makes much more power when cammed or sprayed but the mustang comes out of the box with decently low compression compared to the 10:1? of the LSx im not that familliar with the CRs and such, but i know its higher than the mustang hence why they mustangs)make better power f/i out of the box compared to the LSx series and the same goes for high compression and spray, also more cubes yeild more power N/A thats obvious.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago
Are you talking about 03-04 cobra motors, cause of course stock for stock they can handle more boost because they are purpose built for that. I cant deny that the 4valve motor is a very stout motor, but a buddy of mine just put 4 pounds of boost on an 04 GT and didnt get 300 miles before he blew a head gasket and possibly cracked a head. I have respect for ford i was just raised around chevys.
2000LS1CamaroSS 3 years ago
No, all 4vs and even 2vs provided they are not NPIs with a PI swap have lower compression. Not trying to insult you but do you know how F/I and compression ratio works? Maybe you should look into it a litlte bit. Yes the 03/04 can handle more boost because it is forged, but ALSO because the compression ratio is 8.5:1 so it can handle more boost without detonation,(not because of weak internals). The same goes for other 4vs the 96s-98 cobras are like 9.3:1 or so while the LS-1s are higher10:1orso
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago
Yes i know about compression, thats y i said the 03-04 cobra are able to handle more boost because of the combination of forged internals and low compression.
2000LS1CamaroSS 2 years ago
got a question for you man about superchargers since you seem to know a lot about mustangs......if i ran a supercharger in my 06 GT what is the recommended psi for a 4.6?
Heezy2090 2 years ago
nobody recommends more than 8psi on stock internals... specially since the 4.6 in a SOCH not a pushrood. U deff wanna stay at 8. The meggie in my goat was running on roughly 10psi, but the LS1's can handle much more then the 4.6 SOCH stang engines. Also a friend of mine has an 08 GT and they bough all their upgrades trough ford. and it's all insured. (Roush Supercharger 8psi)
ricerslayer 2 years ago
oh btw the stang is a SOHC(single overhead cam) not a SOCH lol, and due to the LS-1s being a stock high compression engine, they can't handle as much boost (stock), but can destroy the 4.6 in Naturally Aspirated or sprayed power stock. The RoushChargers BLOW! and its not all in how much boost you push, its how good your heads and intake flow, you can make more power on 8 lbs with ported Heads n intake vs 10 lbs on a stock intake and heads.
MrJ0ne5 2 years ago
same for the LS1...you get a alot more power with 8 lbs of boost on a ls1 than 10 lbs of boost from a 4.6. mustangs usually get about 350 rwhp with 8 lbs of boost...about the same as a LS1 with just full exhaust and good tune
cozzey05 2 years ago
thats true. i installed an SLP and pacestter LT'swith catless exhaust with no tune on my '01 ws6 and ran a 12.51 at 114.32mph. and only spent $650! LS motors are definitely top dog.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Yeah but go see which one can handle more boost stock for stock. That 4.6 will handle more. Been there done it and seen it
99drboost 2 years ago
ls1 with max boost will be MUCH higher than a 2 valve 4.6 with max boost
cozzey05 2 years ago
Are you dumb? Go see if a lsi can handle 17psi stock internals. It cant and I know that for a fact. My 2v did. My buddies vette didnt handle 12psi without it popping. Ford motors handle boost alot better then Ls motors. Every car guy knows that. Ls motors like nitros thats it
99drboost 2 years ago
And I was pushin more hp then he was.
99drboost 2 years ago
i'm not saying you can't make power with a 4.6...the only way to make decent power with a 4.6 is boost. with a ls1 you have so many options. you can easily ge 450-500 rwhp with just h/c/i. its much cheaper and easier to get 450 rwhp on a ls1 than a 4.6 2 valve.
cozzey05 2 years ago 2
Yes that I will agree with you on. But you have to keep in mind that the Ls1 has much more hp so thats why it is easy and cheaper. I was just saying that they hold boost better then ls motors. I mean I have a 2v and I don't think they suck but there deff not even close to how goos a 4v cobra motor is. Dont get me wrong I have respect for LS motors. I dont know how you can't. But im strickly a ford guy.
99drboost 2 years ago
Check out the 5.0L cammer motor - Its a stroked 4.6L and makes 450hp, expensive as hell though
JayGeePee1 2 years ago
there will be a dohc 5.0 in the mustang for 2011 with 400 hp
cozzey05 2 years ago
Well really its all in the tune, 10psi even is fine for the 96-04 GTs, the s197s(05+) can handle close to 500whp safeley on stock internals, i'd say with 12lbs and a good tune, you should be fine, thats not to say nothing can happen, just make sure you take it to a reptutible shop to be tuned get a wideband sensor to keep track of A/F ratio and you'll be allright. Intercooled through a 3v 12 lbs you're probably looking at 480ishwhp. I know a guy making 512 on stock intenrals and hes finefornow
MrJ0ne5 2 years ago
i didnt know superchargers ran on psi. i thought that was only turbo chargers
Chris7Shuman 2 years ago
like hell they do!
TheEliminator1992 3 years ago
Damn ok was I the only one that saw everything the camaro had under the hood? I wanna know what the mustang had cuz fuken shit that thing is fast as fuk! But yah to me 5.0's n 03 04 cobras all the way!
papidodgers 3 years ago
I love chevy engines (LS1-2-6-and 7) but uh, the camaro has looked like complete dog shit since the 70's. This camaro looks like a wedge. It has no style, no curves, nothing. I guess it don't look that bad, but still, the mustang has always, and will always have more style than the camaro. Put an LS7 in the new GT's and you have the perfect car.
ricekillerdude 3 years ago
LoL @ all the stock for stock bullshit, maybe thats why we buy mustangs cause we don't plan on leaving em stock, mustangs respond very well to forced induction.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago
thats just a stupid statement! Then its only up to how much money you are willing to put in ure car for modifications and not the real brand name.
oistein74 3 years ago
Thats fun! everyone run 13s all day...
The modular mustang motor responds better to boost than LS-1s..
LS-1s respond better to a cam and well i guess you could give them spray, it depends which way you wanna go with your car, not how much you wanna spend.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago
Ive seen LS1 nad LS2 engines with turbo... think its lingenfelter race against built stangs and F-body win EVERY time. No exeption... so idk dude..
oistein74 3 years ago
Im not saying LS-1s can't be turboed or put under forced induction but a mustang, espically a 4v will respond better and make more power under forced induction. At the same PSI on less cubes the mustang will make more power. This is a fact, also, take into consideration a mustang weighs a few 100 lbs less than a camaro, so built stangs vs built f-bodys, fbodys do not win EVERY time. theres alot of variables. see above post ran out of characters.
MrJ0ne5 3 years ago 2
Stock for stock, an LS1 Camaro can completely waste a 1999+ Mustang GT with its 4.6 SOHC. Not to mention the camaro is cheaper insurance with how many girls drive mustangs over camaros.
Hellz420 3 years ago
lol ive owned both z28 camaro and gt mustang the camaro insurance was higher, and whats wrong with a girl driving and car with a v8 in it, especially a american car. Thats sexy as hell to me.
jons2000camaro 2 years ago
mustang owns evryone
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BirdsNStangs 3 years ago
even whooped a ninga sweet mustang aslo sewwt camaro
mytube3071 3 years ago
mustang kills all
Darkbluestang 3 years ago
My firebird formula would have schooled that mustang
markkkkkola 3 years ago 2
your firebird formula must have a shit load of horsepower then cause both the camaro and the mustang were turbo
jons2000camaro 2 years ago
That's funny, even the guy on the motorcycle was gettin' in on the action lol...
VayLoc310 3 years ago
are you retarded the camaro was turbo also did you not see the intake tubes, im pretty damn sure they wernt ran down towards the radiator to get colder air.
jons2000camaro 2 years ago
@jons2000camaro What the fuck are you talkin' about?
VayLoc310 2 years ago
unlike everyone else i will say nice video wish it was a little longer...what have you done to your mustang and any idea on whats been done to the camaro?
pfb99v6 3 years ago
dude the mustangs never need a supercharger/turbo or to beet a shityass camaro you bitches
eddiehicks 3 years ago
They obviously do...
cjm502 3 years ago
to dumbass eddiehicks
mustangs have to be supercharger/turbo or to beet a Z28 or WS6 dumbass
TMHonfire 3 years ago
There are plenty of cammed/nitrous/[insert variety of other power adders and mods here] Mustangs that drag Camaros everyday.
The LS1 isn't unbeatable in the least. A 2003 Mach 1 will beat a 2002 Z28 Camaro, stock for stock.
cronic8350 3 years ago
03 mach 1s are pretty slow
xnightmare23x 3 years ago
Uhh, they are no slower than an LS1 Camaro/Trans Am...
cronic8350 3 years ago 2
yea they are pretty slow..there like 13.6-13.7....stock...02 camaro good tires high 12s
xnightmare23x 3 years ago
Uhh, stock Mach 1 runs anywhere from a 13.2 to a 12.8.
Stock Camaro runs about a 12.9, with a good driver.
Poor Camaro fag doesn't like that a little Mustang can beat him.
cronic8350 3 years ago
that fox was turbo'd against a n/a camaro, thats hax
XxGlamisDunerxX 3 years ago
on good tires stock 02 ss camaros run low 13's stock mach 1 run like 13.4 very close race..... the record for that camaro style stock is a 12.88 as for the mach 1 the record for that stock in the quarter is13.00.... just something to think about
mustang4life04 3 years ago
Nope. The Cobra R (all motor) what tear a stock LS1 WS6/SS apart anyday of the week. A Mach 1 would be a very close race with them aswell.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
a zrl will tear a new asshole to any ford ever made EVER!
xnightmare23x 3 years ago
lol Nope. The Ford GT X-1 will smash a ZR1 into nothing. Infact, the ZR1 would get a new pussy ripped open racing one. And I'd love to race a ZR1 in my Cobra. My power to weight ratio is a little better, but my aerodynamics arent. It would be a nice stand off.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
umm you should watch the video of Ford GT X-1 vs ZR1. umm u stupid fuck gt x1 gets raped like a bitch. fords are for pussys
kamakazzii 3 years ago 2
You are a fucking retard. The Ford GTX1 would slaughter the ZR1 you fucking idiot.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
I may be a die-hard Chevy fan but the new Corvette ZR1 and GT X-1 have identical stats (minus the hp)
Chevy Corvette ZR1:
630hp,
0-60 in 3.3sec,
top speed 205
Ford GT X-1:
550hp,
0-60 in 3.3sec,
top speed 205
98CamaroGuy 3 years ago
LOL
Aztech355 3 years ago
@TooFastForTransAm FUCK NO....THE GTX1 S A JOKE COMPARED TO THE ZR1
beastmodeclick1082 1 year ago
Oh whats' that.. yeah just what i thought another mustang victory!!
DSG03Stang 3 years ago
Ford always needs A Turbo/Supercharger to beat the camaro. Slap a turbo on that camaro and that mustang would be eatin shit.
acetheheretic 3 years ago
that's true
Galenxz 3 years ago