@RichardElden Nick Clegg has betrayed the British people by helping his Tory buddy - David Cameron - deny the British electorate a referendum on our membership of the hopelsssly corrupt and criminal led European Union project. Nick Clegg is a traitor.
at last that rediculious party (labour) haven been taken down, we now have a real government that will get this country back on its feet. why labour ever got voted in 1997 i don't know.... oh well david cameron will sort there dirty labour mess out.
Whats wrong with people today, President Kennedy said "ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country"... All people talk about in Britain is "Why are my benefits being cut?", "Why are the torys doing this"... For god sake you moaned for ages about how crap Labour was, how they fucked up Britains economy but when change finally comes you still have the cheek to complain!
I agree that Britons complain too much but you are also trivialising some serious and very valid complaints. For instance the Tory-run Westminster Council's decision to ban charities feeding the homeless. That is not trivial. And it is not 'cheek' to complain!!
I hate certain Tory policies, particularly their vitriolic and repressive approach to unemployed people. That is my conviction. But I give credit where I believe credit is due and I won't be partisan on that.
And for someone who claims to be talking about 'not complaining' your stance on the Labour Party seems very opinionated!
You were probably among the whingers when Labour was in office, who exagerrated their policies. Don't tell me you are unpartisan.
We live in a democracy, albeit a flawed one. We shouldn't complain for the sake of it. And we shouldn't be overtly pessimistic but we DO have a right to raise concerns.
I think Cameron is a good foreign PM but a terrible domestic PM.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 I mean not complaining about this sudden change, people are complaining about Cuts but seem to forget why they are being imposed... I used to be a Labour support till the brown days, but i don't think i can ever take them seriously again, i mean actually imposing a policy which allowed 3 million immigrants into this country under the belief that they could then get more votes from them, thats absolutely disgraceful.
I appreciate what you are saying to an extent and I agree that immigration levels are to high. But I don't think there is any hard evidence to suggest that Labour policies on immigration correlated with voting intentions. Immigrants, when they vote, tend to vote for small fringe parties such as Respect. And with the Cuts, I think most people, including myself, accept that some cuts were innevitable; but it is the fact these cuts are so deep and so disproportionate that angers people...
..... the fact that this government has taken a cautious and soft approach to vast banking bonuses whilst the homeless of Westminster are being kicked when they are struggling simply has no moral credibility in my view. You need to understand that many of the people who are angry and complaining are not doing so to be childish; they are genuinely concerned by these policies. Unless im mistaken no other G8 nation is cutting as deep as we are; so its not so much the cuts, its the scale of them.
Just so you know, im not flying the flag for Labour. Im a former Lib Dem, now observing other centrist options.
For Lib Dem's the anger lies in Nick Clegg's betrayal and whatever way you look at it thats what it was. For me the objection is not in being in coalition; actually I initially supported it; its the fact that Nick Clegg has become not a colleague, but a 'yes man' for the Tories. And he accepts their forced labour policy which I find reprehensible.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 The immigration minister of the time admitted it following the loss of the election, documents were then released stating the extent of the policy.
Yeah i can understand why people could be aggravated by that, by no one said it was going to be easy, people need to suck it up and deal with it, there's people in far worse situations than us across the world and people seem to taking what we have for granted.
@cod26 Labour as you said allowed an "Open door" immigration policy to gain more votes. A FACT released by Whitehall. Can never understand Northerners devotion to Labour and harping on about events over 30 years ago when Labour are shitting on British workers. Brown would have done anything even if it was detrimental to the country to stay in power, He is a one-eyed bastard cunt that deserves hanging for the absolute fucking mess he has left in his wake.
@RichardElden No Richard. The fact is winning the election means you past the post. That is a rule. Therefore they did not win and no hot air from you will alter the facts!
@RichardElden No they didn't win the election. They may have got the most votes and they may have got the most seats but winning the election means you pass the post. They didn't. Therefore they didn't win. Fact!
Since you wont leave me alone and keep banging on about politics, The only party to ever cut the budget for the NHS was a labour government in 76, and the government is spending more money on it than labour was going to, Labour policy was only going to give the N,H,S C.P.Inflation. People like ur self whether ur lab tory Lib what ever are just as bad as people in the civil service, Set in there was and can never except what is fact, Allot of these facts where published by Labour
@SuperDanielclark Sorry, but that is a huge fail. The tories cut the NHS more than Labour, and they did a lot worse than cut budgets. They stopped subsidised optical work and they also allowed dentists to pull out of the NHS, and then tried to blame Tony Blair's government for it. That's cutting it, worse than Labour ever did or ever will. Add to the mix that some senior tories still want it privitised now. Yet you try and claim the tories are better for the NHS than Labour? WHAT A JOKE!
No Its fact they where forced to cut nhs spending by the I.M.F in the 70s, ur refering to sertain budgets within the nhs, The over all nhs budget grow by at least rpi +1.5, There are many people in on incasity benifit that can work, I happen to know 2 my self and used to be on it just by providing sick notes, The last goverment esstimated that there was a million people that could come off this benefit,
@SuperDanielclark More lies from you. If you know two people cheating the benefit system that can work, then do your duty, report them. Simple. Surely someone who really worked advising the government would not let people get away with this. More proof you speak nothing but crap and can not be taken seriously on any subject. Even if there were a million people (very doubtful) that are cheating the benefit system this way, 2.4 million plus 1 million is not 5 million or 8 million is it? Dumbass!
@SuperDanielclark Stop talking out your arse. The fatc remains the tories did much destruction to the NHS, destruction that would never have been dreamed of under the labour party!
The 8 million figure is also includeing people that are not oin work but do not claim out of work benifits, N.h.s spending was cut in the 70s its not something iVE made up u only haft to tipe it into google to find that out. All Im doing is reply to ur messeges if u want me to stop then stop replying to my comments
@SuperDanielclark The 8 million figure includes retired businessmen, stay at home mothers and students that do not claim JSA. "Out of work" and "unemployed" are not the same thing, at least as far as benefits go. I never said NHS spending wasn't cut in the '70s, simply pointed out the tories didn't need to cut nhs spending because they cut the nhs as a whole in the 80s and 90s, which is much worse! Tool!
@TomTresh3 The NHS is fucking crap and should be privatised along with the worthless left-wing BBC. So glad the trade unions have imposed an unelectable kike as Labour's worst leader since Michael Foot!
@JuanMacready The NHS has saved millions of lives, so millions of familes would dissagree with you calling it "crap". If it wasn't for the faulklands war, Michael Foot would have succeeded Thatcher as Prime Minister, so don't underestimate Ed Milliband. It's very likely he'll be the next Prime Minister, starting off another 13 great years for the Labour party!
@TomTresh3 The half-blind cunt Foots was an unelectable senile old fool. I think you'll find his longest suicide note had already lost the election. Ed Miliband is a disaster and Cameron wipes the floor with him every Wednesday. The evil NHS should be abolished along with the BBC. So glad Mo Mowlam died of cancer at only 55!
@JuanMacready Not true, before the faulklands war he was well ahead in the polls and virtually had the election in the bag. You can diss Ed Milliband all you want, it won't matter by 2015 when he is in number 10!
Cameron "wipes the floor" with Ed at PMQS???? LOL Dream on!!
@TomTresh3 The unelectable kike Ed Miliband will be replaced very soon by someone who is actually electable, like his brother David. Camerron has easily won every single PMQs so far. Foot was a stupid old man and I celebrated his death.
@JuanMacready Ed Milliband will not be replaced, this is not the tory party than boot out leaders before elections like IDS. Camoron has won nothing - not a single PMQs and not even the 2010 election. He will not be PM next time round. Michael Foot would have been a much better PM than he can ever dream of being!
@TomTresh3 We won the last election and Cameron has won every PMQs so far. We will probably run as a coalition anyway in May 2015. I wonder how long it will be before David Miliband leads a backbench rebellion against his unelectable younger brother?
Michael Foot was a piece of shit and I wish he had died of cancer 27 years ago.
@JuanMacready No you didn't win the last election. Winning an election means you're elected. To be elected you have to past the post. You didn't. That's why you had to form a ConDem alliance. David fully supports his younger brother Ed, who will win the next election and be a better PM than Camoron, just like the late great Michael Foot would have been.
@TomTresh3 We won the last election becuse we won the most number of MPs and more than two million more votes than Labour. We would have taken office as a minority government anyway. David Miliband is actually strongly opposed to his unelectable loser brother who has lost every PMQs so far.
@JuanMacready A minority government is not a winner... hence the term "minority". The tories did not win an election, because they were not elected with a majority. Another point is that had Camoron lead a minority government he would have been able to pass nothing, because the oposing parties would have had a greater share of the parliament vote.
Ed Milliband will be the next PM, just like Michael Foot should have been! Another 13 years of Labour to come after the next election!
@TomTresh3 You're mental mate. Ed Miliband is a fucking ugly unelectable kike. Even Alan Johnson knows Labour need a new leader if they are to stand any chance at all. We won the election, it's just difficult for Conservatives to win with over 8 million unemployed welfare addicts like you who are paid by Labour not to ever work.
@JuanMacready If anyone is mental, it's you. You won no election. If you did you would have a majorty tory government, something that was never going to happen, and will ensure a Labour government next time round!
@JuanMacready Dream on. Labour will increase their seats at the next election be it in 4 weeks or 4 years time. Your lover David Cameron will not call an election next year because he is power hungry, weak and useless. He makes Ed Milliband look like Atlee and Churchill!
@TomTresh3 Attlee was the worst prime minister the UK ever had so that's not a good comparison. How long will it be before Labour forces Milipede out and installs someone electable in his place?
@JuanMacready Atlee was the best PM ever, with Churchill the second, so it's a great comparison. the worst was Thatcher, although Cameron is giving her a run for her money! How long before Ed Milliband is former Labour leader? He'll be the former leader after serving two terms as Prime Minister!
@TomTresh3 Attlee was a fucking cunt who destroyed the UK. I wish he had died of cancer like Harold Wilson. Thatcher was the greatest Prime Minister by far. We should have let the fucking worthless commie Ralph Miliband die in the Holocaust.
@JuanMacready Maggie Thatcher was an utter joke just like CaMORON. Of course compared to you, they are pretty decent people. At least those asses wouldn't wish death on the opposisition and indeed both Milk Snatcher and her current day version would find your comments as disgusting as me and the vast majority of people on this planet. Oh and it was Atlee who have us the NHS, something every Tory leader since hasd't dare touch and the last two tory PM's have always praised. Pwned!
@TomTresh3 Baroness Thatcher rightly cut funding for the NHS. It should be completely privatised like Royal Mail and the fucking worthless left-wing BBC. So glad Mo Mowlam died of cancer just after Robin Cook died.
@JuanMacready Juan, they won't privitise it- they haven't got the guts, or the support of this great nation. Only a few twits (you being one of these idiots) want that to happen. A few idiots against the rest of the tens of millions of decent people in this country is small fry!
@JuanMacready So what? Just because he is in charge of RM dosen't mean his party will want the BBC to go the same route, you idiot! And yes, you do need the lib dems still because trhere is no chanced you would be in a majority government without them!
@TomTresh3 Oh yes there is now. Ed Miliband is very much like Neil Kinnoick -the vast majority of people have already decided they never want him as prime mninister. We don't need the BBC anymore now that we have hundreds of TV channels.
Pete Postlewaite is dead, another Labour supporting twat.
@JuanMacready No they're isn't. The BBC will NOT be privitised. Ed Milliband may or may not have simlarities to Kinnock, but one HUGE difference, unlike Kinnock he will be PM not a "should have been" PM. Show me where your source states most of this country don't want Milliband as PM? Of course, you don't have one. However, there are plenty of polls that prove most people don't want Cameron in charge and next election he won't be!
@TomTresh3 Miliband's personal popularity is very low according to all sources, unlike David Cameron's. Cameron should call an alection right now to secure a majority. The BBC is fucking worthless crap and the licence fee should be scrapped.
@JuanMacready Then post some sources, if all sources say this, then you should be able to give me 100 sources! You can't cause you're talking balls! Oh, and if you think the BBC should be made commerical, then I guess you're the kind of person who enjoys the shite commerical channels make like X Factor, Big Brother, I'm A Celeb, Come Dine With Me repeats 4 times a day, etc... No thanks, I'd rather pay the £130 a year to get the BBC as is!
@TomTresh3 The latest YouGov poll for a start. Miliband is a disaster and he won't even last one parliamentary term as party leader. The BBC is rubbish, and pointless.
@JuanMacready The only rubbish is you. There is no You Gov poll that has been printed that shows people want Milliband out. Infact the lastest YouGov poll which is on their homepage this morning shows that under his leadership Labour is on 43%, The tories on 39% and LD on 7%. Grow up Juan, this is proof his party is the most popular! Oh and BBC forever!
@TomTresh3 The BBC is fucking crap and it should not exist. The latest YouGov poll shows that most people think Miliband is a fucking disaster. So sorry his worthless commie father didn't go up the chimney at Dachau.
@JuanMacready The BBC is good and will continue to exsist no matter what you think. The latest You Gov poll clearly shows Labour in the lead (well done Ed!) and you're nazi scum!
@TomTresh3 Four points is hardly "clearly in the lead" and there's not going to be another election until at least 2014. If Labour had formed a coalition with the Liberals they would have had to make huge cuts to public spending and Cameron would be over 20 points ahead in the polls.
@JuanMacready Cameron would not be 20 points ahead, not least of all due to the fact the tories would have dropped him as leader like they did with the three other losers they've had since John Major suffered defeat! Besdies, your latest attempt at fiction does not alter the fact you've been talking out your arse as always! And yes, four points is clearly in the lead because mathamatics clearly shows Labour in the lead, and by the next election it will be more than four points!
@TomTresh3 By the next election Dave will have eliminated the deficit, enabling him to win a clear majority and make Sir Nick Clegg the British ambassador in Europe instead of the useless Baroness Ashton.
@JuanMacready Dream on! By the next election even more people will see what the liars clegg and cameron have done is come up with plans that make us even worse off and it will be Ed to the rescue!
@JuanMacready Deleting my post about you supporting the halocaust won't do anything... I've just mentioned this sad act of yours on my profile page.. try deleting that! Oh and now I'm blocking you from commenting on my page... have a nice 2011!
@SuperDanielclark You're the one that brings it up and I mention it because it's a HUGELY misleading figure. "Out of work" is not the same as "unemployed". If you won the lottery, got a huge inhertaince, or made enough to retire, you'd probably consider not working. To include people like that in the unemployment figure is wrong. Those are people who don't need to work. End of. Get it?
Stop going on about budgets. Fact is Labour governments have better NHS services.
The 8 million figure includes retired businessmen, stay at home mothers and students that do not claim JSA. "Out of work" and "unemployed" are not the same thing, at least as far as benefits go. I never said NHS spending wasn't cut in the '70s, simply pointed out the tories didn't need to cut nhs spending because they cut the nhs as a whole in the 80s and 90s, which is much worse! I'll continue to reply as long as I want to!
No its not maybes, Interest and how long u pay it off effects the the cost of goverment bonds thats just fact, before the last election britain was weeks away from defalting on its debts Like Island, Im not a tory voter ither, and do exept that there is a thing called an economic cycle, but when u have growth in a cycle u should do 3 things cut tax in the right places to maximise revenues, Cut borrowing, Increase spending, Instead we borrowed to much
Labour, the party that want every native Brit to be go on welfare, and have us bring in another 40 million immigrants to work, sticking us all in high rises and on "terror estates" A party that manipulated police reports of crime, by piling them up with paperwork, so they just ignore the majority of complaints and problems with crime and anti-social behaviour. The party that rewards the criminals, and punishes the victims with their vile early release scheme. Labour, the party for the yobs.
@JusticeSeeker1000 , If Labour had won they would have held onto power for years by flooding the country with more immigrants meaning more Labour voters, How anyone of Anglo-Saxon origin can vote for this pile of shit is beyond me unless they are as thick as pigshit of course.
@Bellalodicci9 The tories aren't going to stop the immigration u nitwit! They will however rise unemployment, just like they did last time they were in power!
Labour wanted to half gov debt in 4 years, In other words cuts for 8 years, Cutting at that rate would mean higher interest payments meaning larger cuts, So more public sector jobs would be lost and Labour wasent going to cut buisness taxis so the private sector wouldent of recruited them, It would Also mean high inflation. look at the facts unemployment would of been higher under labour. Your an Econmic retard
No goverment debt interest and how long you pay it off is fact, Unemplyment at the mo is falling not rising. In the 80s unemployment had to rise because goverment borrowing had to be cut to tackle inflation which under labour in the 70s reached 26.9 percent, fact,
in 97 unemplyment was lower than 79, fact, Every Labour goverment has left office with unemplyment been higher than what the inhirete Fact, cus ur a retard u proberly dont know what inflation is
@SuperDanielclark Stop talking crap. The tories had been in government for almost a full term in the '80s before we reached record unemployment in this country, so stop trying to blame the labour party. Lets not also forget it was under the tories 1 million familes lost their homes. Yet you try and claim the country was better off? What a joke!
I do know what inflation is. I also know what bullshit is. You talk plenty!
If the last goverment had spent less than the economy grow we wouldent haft to had these cuts, Inflation did reach 26.9 percent in the 70s, Tackerling inflation u haft to rase interest rate, cut money surplys, cut borrowing, restrane pay or cut jobs, Its fact it has to be done, long into the future inflation will rise as a result of all the printed money from last year, When I say better off Im not saying every 1 was, I was talking per capiter which people wher so,
@SuperDanielclark No. In a country where in the 1980s 1 million homes were lost and 3.5 million were unemployed we were MUCH worse off than we are nowAnd If you think for one second I believe you are working advising the government, you've got another thing coming. If you're "soloutions" and opinions were any good then please explain why Labour gave us less unemployment that the tories, in a time of global finanical crisis. I'll tell you why, they know how to run a country!
My critisim is not the injection money into the economy, My critism is that moeny should of been put aside for when you have crises, unemployment today is over 5 million, The low unemplyment that u are talking about is only reffering to people on the clament count not on every one on out of work benifits.
@SuperDanielclark Dream on! Unemployment is not 5 million in this country, it is less than half that. You talk about looking at facts, yet you don't come up with any!
@JuanMacready No "Juan" there are not 8 million unemployed, and the NHS should not be privitised. Let's see your beloved tories DARE to touch it... and never win an election again!
@TomTresh3 There are well over 8 million unemployed adults of working age. The NHS is fucking crap. So glad Mo Mowlam went BLIND before the cancer killed her at only 55. HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ur right on the 8 million figure and it has risen very sharply over the last 20 yrs, This Tom bloke which u replyed to is a retard, He will dispute any figures even if there fact, Hes a nob
@SuperDanielclark The only knob is you. You claim 5 millon a couple of days ago and now someone else claims 8 million unemployed you say that is the right figure. Yet you still claim your job is advising over government. If it was then surely you would know what the figure was, and not have a 3 million discrepency within 2 days. Proof positive you are a liar and are not fit to advise the manure assocation, let alone the government.
Unemployment is also the highest its been since 1996 so Labour left office with it higher than they inherited, The defence budget has been cut every year since 91 if u compare it with r.p.i,. Labour said it would protect welfare, N.H.S, Schools Police International development, that would mean cutting defence spending by nearly 40% plus the defence budget is £38 billion in the red,, I’m not a lab or Tory I get on well with both, so stop all the party political stuff and look at the facts
@SuperDanielclark I do look at facts. I ask myself do I want a party in power who gave this country the NHS, the minimum wage, gave more equality to people, stoped jailing people because they were gay, were all for natalisation, who don't "hide" tax increases in indirect taxation so they can pretend we are "earning more", etc. Or do I want a party that stood against all of that. No. I want one that's for it. That's why I vote Labour! That enough "fact" for you?
@SuperDanielclark Labour may have left office with unemployment higher than 1996, but then again they didn't have a four term like the previous tory government. The fact remains it was the tories that gave us record unemployment in the 1980s and also THREE recessions each one exclusive to this country, unlike the global crisis.
I’m not disputing Labour achievements, Imp quite a fan of Tony Blair but I’m not political so the only reason why I kept writing these things is your doing the party thing again which is not all acute, Go to direct gov where we publish the unemployment figures, The claiment count is 2.4 million, plus the number of people on incapacity is 2.6 million that is well over 5 million
@SuperDanielclark You can't include people who CAN'T work in the unemployment figure. If you CAN'T do something, then you can't be included. Common sence. Therefore, by your own admittance the correct figure is 2.4 million - the amount of people out of work that can work!
I agree with u about dentists, My preosers Advised the Major goverment not to shut down one of the dental schools which smiller to defence spending takes a while to have an effect, Ur still on about politics again, its also true now the nhs budget will grow by 01 percen after cpit this yr, Labour .Labours policy at the election was to give it c.p.i +0
@SuperDanielclark Yeah dubass, i am "on about politics". Remind me again is the Prime Minister a politicain? Is this video about a prime minister? What do you expect people to talk about? Manure? Besdies, you talk enough shit for all of us!
@SuperDanielclark Yes it is maybes. When you speculate it's a maybe, not a fact, END OF! Oh and it's Ireland, not Island. So much for you working "advising the government"! And you really call cutting the police force and the defence budget cutting "in the right places", get real. "The right places" would be making sure the mega rich pay their correct tax (i.e. Lord Ashcroft), but the tories will never do that, because they don't wanna upset their donors!
Sorry for the bad spelling I suffer slightly from dyslexia, I don’t know why u keep on about the Tories, yes your right about house represents, I was talking per capture not Individual groups, And I also think that Nigel Lawson made some big mistakes, for example in the 87 stock market crash he cut interest rates back to far which lead to higher inflation which is partly one of the reasons we had black Wednesday.
@SuperDanielclark This wasn't about bad spelling, it was about you pretending you advise the government to try and pass your babble off as "inside" facts. Dosen't fool me and dosen't fool anyone else!
@SuperDanielclark You look at the facts - record unemployment was given to us under a troy government. Facts are realities, no maybes, not could have beens. That's all you have. Not facts!
@SuperDanielclark You look at the facts - record unemployment was given to us under a tory government. Facts are realities, no maybes, not could have beens, not your opinion. That's all you have. Not facts!
@SuperDanielclark You look at the facts - record unemployment was given to us under a tory government. Facts are realities, no maybes, not could have beens, not your opinion. That's all you have. Not facts!
@SuperDanielclark You talk fantasty. All you do is give out personal insutls and talk about "maybes" and "could have beens", not reality! The tories are going to ruin this country (like they did in the '80s) and will loose the next election. Enjoy your one term government!
When u say bullshit, Just to point My orgisation advises the goverment and the last 1, On unemployment, people seem to forget that public sector jobs are funded by the tax payer who earn money, Its the private sector that employs people to pay tax,
If u carry on raising taxis to inflate the public sector, Companys go abroad along with tax rev, To have high employment in both sectors in the long run is to have low tax rates to attract buisness to pay for it, all facts not bull shit
@JusticeSeeker1000 Cameron's gone PC now. He once said he wanted to be heir to Blair!
The politically-correct Left are funny folk. All property is theft (except when it's theirs), all people are of equal worth (except the ones they want to constantly guilt-trip for the sins of the fathers) and all points of view are valid and worthy of protection (except those they don't like).
Very unequal these 'Equality' people!
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@JusticeSeeker1000 oh dear. It appears that you feel that the Condems will sort out the poor, but you are wrong. When people starve, they take. Lets hope they dont come through your window tonight, as there wont be any police to stop them. Sweet dreams.
@partyhouse88 you are literally a moron. Sure, the Russians don't have a good reputation but how can you imply that their voting system isn't a democratic system?
LOL, bye bye Gordon. And good riddance to another useless, despicable left wing nutjob academic that thinks government borrow/tax/print and spend is the road to prosperity. Evil, evil man.
You can tell the Labout PR department is out of a job and bored...just read all the comments by these Brown "fans". bahahaha This is Labour's idea of embracing technology;. What a bunch of peasants...no wonder this country has collapsed economically.
he genuinly strives to serve the people. And while some of the less informed people may blame him for the economic downturn, he is infact the only man who stood between a UK recession and a UK depression.
I'm a liberal/conservative, but i like Gordan Brown - and at the risk of sounding naive, i think i understand him. I don't know the man, but from what i gather, he is a very honourable human being.. Bad tempered, arrogant and stubborn yes, but not the total waste of space that the media and the public like to portray. Gordan Brown is infact, the only high ranking Westminster politician who is not in politics for his own personal gain - (CONTD)
Good riddance to the One Eyed Scottish Idiot. Future history books will quote Clarkson's appropriate description. What an embarrassment for your family. You will go down in history as a failure,a loser and a delusional fool Brown. I hope you have fucked off out of England and never set foot on our soil again. You are not welcome.
Apart from a string of obscenity and schoolboy style name calling, there, like the Tory party, is nothing of substance in what you say. You and Clarkson, (personal friend and neighbour of the Camerons), will eat your words. With the Lib-Dems, they have thrown out their principles and views that they campaigned on, for personal power and gain. An insult to the electorate, who will throw them both out before long. When their 5 year minimum term stitch up, is voted out as illegal.
@Bellalodicci9 Honestly, whenever i read or hear comments like that i know i'm deeling with a absolute idiot who knows nothing about the complexities of government. Brown was not a bad primeminister. People simply didn't like him. Don't confuse the two.
@Bellalodicci9 What a way to show to the whole word how much of an idiot you are, quoting Jeremy Clarkson, a very bias old fashioned presenter. I would find him funny if anything he said wasn't from a script, he show's his true colours when he isn't reading from an auto Que. Right now your coming off as the loser and a failure accept I doubt there will be a place i history for you. Brow will be remembered for what good he did, remember when he led the way in fixing the global financial crisis?
@Bellalodicci9 Narrow minded prick, you do know Clarkson sucks off Cameron dont you? Oh sorry because he is on Top Gear he clearly kows best. Funny you say he is not welcome because personally, i'm gonna buy him a pint.
@garb2274 <Had to be said. I was a bit harsh though . It's not Brown's fault . He was just not cut out for the job. I voted UKIP not Tory but I must admit I am impressed with the the Tory/Libs kicking Buy-to-Letters in the bollocks by raising taxes on second home ownership from 15% to 40%. A home is somewhere to live not to make money out of and exploit lower income earners.
And a word of advice from someone far away in Australia. The Labor party here are scarcely different to the Labor party over there. Dimwits who can't manage the economy and care only about staying in power...no matter how much damage thy are doing to the country. I would not relinquish the pound either...look at what is happening in Greece and take note.
Thanks God this idiot is gone. What a pompous turd he was. He should have lost in a landslide after all he has done. Even one of his own party members spoke out in the days leading up to the election saying he was the worst PM in UK history. There really must be alot of dumb voters in the uk!
love the way these guys can steal from the public and get away with it ... these A holes are the real terrorists of today ...... as for creating more money inflation has risen alot and isnt gonna be able to go much higher before the crash will happen, and thats what will happen if they create more money
Oh yes I like this report...in the Russian Dumas all the votes are counted but Putin does what he wants anyway. bahahahaha...this report is a joke as is Russian democracy.
Anyway...wow this news channel is a bit shit isn't it? What does it mean by wasting "60 per cent of votes"? Only the Russians know...the "experts" on democracy...bahahaha. They want to lecture the oldest democracy in the world on how to be democratic when onoly yesterday they had Stalin in power? bahahaha...the irony.
@garb2274 Banks are the real criminals, not a bunch of petty lowlifes living on an estate somewhere. They can create unlimited wealth if they wanted which is enough to drag us out of any debt and have enough left over to pay for all public programes and your dreaded benefits. Banks and government could create an economic boom tommorow if they wanted. But they dont want that, they keep the stupid public distraced with fake issues like MPs expenses and the "welfare state".
@LandlessPeasantFuck Oh and...banks are the real criminals? The banks created the wealth in the first place. How many people bought their house because of the fucking banks ya twat? How many could afford to buy their house without a mortgage. Now fairs fair banks went too far (fault of the Labour government not putting controls) but if it wasn't for banks we'd be in a situation like the Victorian times where only rich people had a house..ya fucking twat. God you're thick.
@garb2274 No what i'm saying is, they have a trillion pounds. And due to a fractional reserve system, why cant they lend out 900 billion, then 800 billion then 700 billion etc. They fatten us up and shear us. People complain about deficits, debt and public sector austerity/cuts. But all these problems could we wiped out very quickly if the banks multiplied the money supply and invested it in real projects.
@garb2274 The banks could create trillions and trillions of pounds which is more than enough to pay off any debts and keep services alive. This "economic crisis" is no more than a deliberate crisis used to centralise controll and put it in the hands of a few people who have most of the welath and power.
@LandlessPeasantFuck Yes they could but then the pound would be undervalued to the point of becoming like the Lira. Of course to a simpleton like you who's most important decision is whether he should eat boiled potatoes or roast potatoes discussing national finance is ridiculous. You are a whack job my friend. Yeah right all a conspiracy...take your meds. I believe in certain conspiracies too but what you're saying is just fucking paranoid and delusional.
@garb2274 New conspiracy which I just thought up: Neo-cummunists from Russia caused the global financial meltdown in order to reinstate a new Soviet Empire starting with dun-dun-duuun...Georgia. or...The Jewish Lobby instigated the global financial meltdown with the help of Madoff so as to divert media attention from their land-grabbing of Palestinian territory...hey not likely they'd go to all that trouble but just as valid/credible as your conspiracy...
@garb2274 the pound would not be undervalued because you have created physical wealth to buy things with the new money you create. This technically could be considered a conspiracy on the part of people like Alan Greenspan and the central banks considering their actions are coordinated and because of the fact governments use crisis in order to carry out further centralisation of power. Listen to Webster Tarpley for truth.
@LandlessPeasantFuck bahahaha...you think printing tons of cash would not undervalue the pound? No of course not...how do you think the Italia Lira went from around the value of 1 pound to 1 Lira in 1946 to 3000 Lira to 1 Pound in 2002 before changing over to the Euro? By printing tons and tons of the stuff. You don't have a clue about economics, do you? Not only will it undervalue the Pound but it will also raise inflation. There more there is of something, the less it's worth. Bozo...
@garb2274 "how do you think the Italia Lira went from around the value of 1 pound to 1 Lira in 1946 to 3000 Lira to 1 Pound in 2002 before changing over to the Euro? By printing tons and tons of the stuff."
Printing money and putting it to no good use devalues a currency. Creating money while simultaniously creating physical welath does not devalue the currency.
@LandlessPeasantFuck "Printing money and putting it to no good use devalues a currency. Creating money while simultaniously creating physical welath does not devalue the currency." bahahaha...I love it how vague you are. How would this "physical wealth" be created considering the manufacturing industry in Britain is non-existent? You think the Lira was not put to good use? How do you know? Don't tell me..you;re an expert on post-war Italian history..oh please you are getting less credible..stop
@garb2274 You could loan out money to begin building factorys for manifacturing. The creation of new money would have a multiplier effect. It would put contractors to work and the new capital produced could begin producing goods. Welfare spending would decrease because there would be more jobs and you would collect more tax. People would put the new money in the bank again and the process would repeat.
@LandlessPeasantFuck "You could loan out money to begin building factorys for manifacturing."
That shows what a simplified and ignorant view you have of the world. Manufacture what exactly? You do realise that when you manufacture stuff, in order to create wealth for Britain, you have to sell it ABROAD? So what are you going to sell. What invent something at the top of your head...? Oh yeah how realistic. What cars? Car industry is dead.
@garb2274 We could sell all the useless fucking scroungers, and leftie fuckers like you for fertilizer. You arrogant fucking prick. i would love to meet you face to face and watch you squirm.
@LandlessPeasantFuck And I still think your conspiracy is week, to say the least. You say it was all planned so a few would cease control of the banks...but what would be the point when these few already had control? Bob Diamond anyone? barclays? He nearly LOST control after the collapse..he just about hung on. So who would these "people" be if not the head fat-cats? Aliens? Come on..you;re starting to sound delsuional..to say the least!!
@LandlessPeasantFuck Listen, I am not blinded by politicians crap..I know JFK was probably an inside job..I also suspect no man has ever set foot on the moon and I'll accept with all probability the US governemnt was involoved somehow in 9/11. But to say the global crisis was caused by the very people who lost most of all is silly and far-fetched. Tell me the Chinese or Arabs did it..and I might find it a bit more credible.
@LandlessPeasantFuck And as for your "Listen to Webster Tarpley" come on. I just proved to you that in a few minutes I can think about many conspiracies. So if I started a website and made a few speeches it would make it more credible? You could argue just about anything quite well if you put your mind to it. Doesn;t make it anymore true. So tell me, does he have an explanation for the collapse of Lehmens? I bet he does too...the sacrificial lamb? Oh please...
@garb2274 Thats not even a bloody argument! You say its easy to make up conspiracys, I agree! But then you go to the other extreme of saying conspiracys dont exist because people can make them up. We know this fanancial meltdown is a conspiracy because we can look at the actions of people in government and what they have done to bring this about. There is no need to make up conspiracys, we just have to look at the evidence.
@garb2274 " But to say the global crisis was caused by the very people who lost most of all is silly and far-fetched."
Who lost most exactly? Of was it the banks who got trillions of pounds and dollars with their staff in government? Webster Tarpley pretty much has an explanation for everything, he has made some stunningly accurate predictions based on his expert knowledge.
@LandlessPeasantFuck Who lost most of all you ask? What about Lehmans...I suppose they don't count? All the board and executives of that company...doesn't count cause it goes against your theory, right? What about Madoff? Does he count...oh no I suppose not. What about the fact that bonuses have been cut and are now scrutinised? Does that count. Yours and that Tarpley bloke theory is far fetched and unrealistic. It just shows a lack of understanding of the banking system.
@garb2274 Madoff has nothing to do with this. He is just a criminal who got caught. Although i'm sure others were involved. The collapse of Lehman was just about narrowing competition.
@LandlessPeasantFuck bahahaha...just a criminal that got caught. This proves you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Santander/Abbey Bank in the UK lost 6 billion because of Madoff. Yes thaty's right, their high yeild bond was through him. So were many others. In total he lost over 50 billion of savers money. Vanished. Nothing to do with this? Apart from anything, Madoff was the head of the fucking NASDAQ.
@LandlessPeasantFuck Abd this also shows up the holes in your theory. Madoff was bamboozled only because of the credit crunch. Otherwise he'd still be happily scamming away today. Because of the crunch people started trading in their bonds early and the whole house of cards collapsed because the money wasn't there. But this is what doesn;t make sense. In nearly 30 years, Madoff was investigated more than once by a government body, yet they closed an eye. So he was important/connected. Right?
@LandlessPeasantFuck So you can't deny Madoff has friends in high places. So what doesn't make sense is...why would he be the sacrficial lamb if this was all planned? That doesn't fucking make sense. And someone inside high-finance with senators and ex-presidents as close buddies, not to mention all the top execs and CEOs..he wouldn't be aware of a conspiracy? Unless you're telling me he along with Lehman gladly took the fall so everyone else could profit. You're fucking nuts and dumb as shit.
why do their wives have to be there?
Dontgetmetwisted 1 month ago
PEOPLE NEED TO CALM DOWN
Cinimod237 2 months ago
@RichardElden Nick Clegg has betrayed the British people by helping his Tory buddy - David Cameron - deny the British electorate a referendum on our membership of the hopelsssly corrupt and criminal led European Union project. Nick Clegg is a traitor.
RedGoblinus 3 months ago
good riddance
82ksniper 8 months ago
DIRTY LEFT WING SOCAILIST CUNT GET OUT AND TAKE YOUR JUMPED OUT PRICK FILLED PARTY WITH YOU! AND NEVER EVEN COME BACK.
bluetillidie1 8 months ago 9
@bluetillidie1 WELL FUCKING SAID.
lee18580 5 months ago
I wish labour would be prime minister again.
40to90 11 months ago
at last that rediculious party (labour) haven been taken down, we now have a real government that will get this country back on its feet. why labour ever got voted in 1997 i don't know.... oh well david cameron will sort there dirty labour mess out.
jblsound13 11 months ago
Whats wrong with people today, President Kennedy said "ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country"... All people talk about in Britain is "Why are my benefits being cut?", "Why are the torys doing this"... For god sake you moaned for ages about how crap Labour was, how they fucked up Britains economy but when change finally comes you still have the cheek to complain!
cod26 1 year ago
@cod26
I agree that Britons complain too much but you are also trivialising some serious and very valid complaints. For instance the Tory-run Westminster Council's decision to ban charities feeding the homeless. That is not trivial. And it is not 'cheek' to complain!!
I hate certain Tory policies, particularly their vitriolic and repressive approach to unemployed people. That is my conviction. But I give credit where I believe credit is due and I won't be partisan on that.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 months ago
@cod26
And for someone who claims to be talking about 'not complaining' your stance on the Labour Party seems very opinionated!
You were probably among the whingers when Labour was in office, who exagerrated their policies. Don't tell me you are unpartisan.
We live in a democracy, albeit a flawed one. We shouldn't complain for the sake of it. And we shouldn't be overtly pessimistic but we DO have a right to raise concerns.
I think Cameron is a good foreign PM but a terrible domestic PM.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 I mean not complaining about this sudden change, people are complaining about Cuts but seem to forget why they are being imposed... I used to be a Labour support till the brown days, but i don't think i can ever take them seriously again, i mean actually imposing a policy which allowed 3 million immigrants into this country under the belief that they could then get more votes from them, thats absolutely disgraceful.
cod26 10 months ago
@cod26
I appreciate what you are saying to an extent and I agree that immigration levels are to high. But I don't think there is any hard evidence to suggest that Labour policies on immigration correlated with voting intentions. Immigrants, when they vote, tend to vote for small fringe parties such as Respect. And with the Cuts, I think most people, including myself, accept that some cuts were innevitable; but it is the fact these cuts are so deep and so disproportionate that angers people...
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 months ago
..... the fact that this government has taken a cautious and soft approach to vast banking bonuses whilst the homeless of Westminster are being kicked when they are struggling simply has no moral credibility in my view. You need to understand that many of the people who are angry and complaining are not doing so to be childish; they are genuinely concerned by these policies. Unless im mistaken no other G8 nation is cutting as deep as we are; so its not so much the cuts, its the scale of them.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 months ago
Just so you know, im not flying the flag for Labour. Im a former Lib Dem, now observing other centrist options.
For Lib Dem's the anger lies in Nick Clegg's betrayal and whatever way you look at it thats what it was. For me the objection is not in being in coalition; actually I initially supported it; its the fact that Nick Clegg has become not a colleague, but a 'yes man' for the Tories. And he accepts their forced labour policy which I find reprehensible.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 10 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 The immigration minister of the time admitted it following the loss of the election, documents were then released stating the extent of the policy.
Yeah i can understand why people could be aggravated by that, by no one said it was going to be easy, people need to suck it up and deal with it, there's people in far worse situations than us across the world and people seem to taking what we have for granted.
cod26 10 months ago
@cod26 Labour as you said allowed an "Open door" immigration policy to gain more votes. A FACT released by Whitehall. Can never understand Northerners devotion to Labour and harping on about events over 30 years ago when Labour are shitting on British workers. Brown would have done anything even if it was detrimental to the country to stay in power, He is a one-eyed bastard cunt that deserves hanging for the absolute fucking mess he has left in his wake.
Bellalodicci9 10 months ago 7
@RichardElden The only good thing about any of it is that it will ensure a Labour vitory next time round!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@RichardElden No Richard. The fact is winning the election means you past the post. That is a rule. Therefore they did not win and no hot air from you will alter the facts!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@RichardElden No they didn't win the election. They may have got the most votes and they may have got the most seats but winning the election means you pass the post. They didn't. Therefore they didn't win. Fact!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
Since you wont leave me alone and keep banging on about politics, The only party to ever cut the budget for the NHS was a labour government in 76, and the government is spending more money on it than labour was going to, Labour policy was only going to give the N,H,S C.P.Inflation. People like ur self whether ur lab tory Lib what ever are just as bad as people in the civil service, Set in there was and can never except what is fact, Allot of these facts where published by Labour
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Sorry, but that is a huge fail. The tories cut the NHS more than Labour, and they did a lot worse than cut budgets. They stopped subsidised optical work and they also allowed dentists to pull out of the NHS, and then tried to blame Tony Blair's government for it. That's cutting it, worse than Labour ever did or ever will. Add to the mix that some senior tories still want it privitised now. Yet you try and claim the tories are better for the NHS than Labour? WHAT A JOKE!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
No Its fact they where forced to cut nhs spending by the I.M.F in the 70s, ur refering to sertain budgets within the nhs, The over all nhs budget grow by at least rpi +1.5, There are many people in on incasity benifit that can work, I happen to know 2 my self and used to be on it just by providing sick notes, The last goverment esstimated that there was a million people that could come off this benefit,
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark More lies from you. If you know two people cheating the benefit system that can work, then do your duty, report them. Simple. Surely someone who really worked advising the government would not let people get away with this. More proof you speak nothing but crap and can not be taken seriously on any subject. Even if there were a million people (very doubtful) that are cheating the benefit system this way, 2.4 million plus 1 million is not 5 million or 8 million is it? Dumbass!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Stop talking out your arse. The fatc remains the tories did much destruction to the NHS, destruction that would never have been dreamed of under the labour party!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
The 8 million figure is also includeing people that are not oin work but do not claim out of work benifits, N.h.s spending was cut in the 70s its not something iVE made up u only haft to tipe it into google to find that out. All Im doing is reply to ur messeges if u want me to stop then stop replying to my comments
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark The 8 million figure includes retired businessmen, stay at home mothers and students that do not claim JSA. "Out of work" and "unemployed" are not the same thing, at least as far as benefits go. I never said NHS spending wasn't cut in the '70s, simply pointed out the tories didn't need to cut nhs spending because they cut the nhs as a whole in the 80s and 90s, which is much worse! Tool!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 The NHS is fucking crap and should be privatised along with the worthless left-wing BBC. So glad the trade unions have imposed an unelectable kike as Labour's worst leader since Michael Foot!
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready The NHS has saved millions of lives, so millions of familes would dissagree with you calling it "crap". If it wasn't for the faulklands war, Michael Foot would have succeeded Thatcher as Prime Minister, so don't underestimate Ed Milliband. It's very likely he'll be the next Prime Minister, starting off another 13 great years for the Labour party!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 The half-blind cunt Foots was an unelectable senile old fool. I think you'll find his longest suicide note had already lost the election. Ed Miliband is a disaster and Cameron wipes the floor with him every Wednesday. The evil NHS should be abolished along with the BBC. So glad Mo Mowlam died of cancer at only 55!
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Not true, before the faulklands war he was well ahead in the polls and virtually had the election in the bag. You can diss Ed Milliband all you want, it won't matter by 2015 when he is in number 10!
Cameron "wipes the floor" with Ed at PMQS???? LOL Dream on!!
Grow up you 16 year old tosser!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 The unelectable kike Ed Miliband will be replaced very soon by someone who is actually electable, like his brother David. Camerron has easily won every single PMQs so far. Foot was a stupid old man and I celebrated his death.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Ed Milliband will not be replaced, this is not the tory party than boot out leaders before elections like IDS. Camoron has won nothing - not a single PMQs and not even the 2010 election. He will not be PM next time round. Michael Foot would have been a much better PM than he can ever dream of being!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 We won the last election and Cameron has won every PMQs so far. We will probably run as a coalition anyway in May 2015. I wonder how long it will be before David Miliband leads a backbench rebellion against his unelectable younger brother?
Michael Foot was a piece of shit and I wish he had died of cancer 27 years ago.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready No you didn't win the last election. Winning an election means you're elected. To be elected you have to past the post. You didn't. That's why you had to form a ConDem alliance. David fully supports his younger brother Ed, who will win the next election and be a better PM than Camoron, just like the late great Michael Foot would have been.
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 We won the last election becuse we won the most number of MPs and more than two million more votes than Labour. We would have taken office as a minority government anyway. David Miliband is actually strongly opposed to his unelectable loser brother who has lost every PMQs so far.
I wish the evil pervert Foot had died of CANCER.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready A minority government is not a winner... hence the term "minority". The tories did not win an election, because they were not elected with a majority. Another point is that had Camoron lead a minority government he would have been able to pass nothing, because the oposing parties would have had a greater share of the parliament vote.
Ed Milliband will be the next PM, just like Michael Foot should have been! Another 13 years of Labour to come after the next election!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 You're mental mate. Ed Miliband is a fucking ugly unelectable kike. Even Alan Johnson knows Labour need a new leader if they are to stand any chance at all. We won the election, it's just difficult for Conservatives to win with over 8 million unemployed welfare addicts like you who are paid by Labour not to ever work.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready If anyone is mental, it's you. You won no election. If you did you would have a majorty tory government, something that was never going to happen, and will ensure a Labour government next time round!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Cameron should call an election in the New Year. Miliband is a fucking disaster and we don't need the Lib Dems any more.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Yes Juan, I agree with you there. Look forward to a 2011 election and an increaded Labour seating in parliament!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Yeah sure! Milipede is a fucking disaster and he will be forced out next year.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Dream on. Labour will increase their seats at the next election be it in 4 weeks or 4 years time. Your lover David Cameron will not call an election next year because he is power hungry, weak and useless. He makes Ed Milliband look like Atlee and Churchill!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Attlee was the worst prime minister the UK ever had so that's not a good comparison. How long will it be before Labour forces Milipede out and installs someone electable in his place?
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Atlee was the best PM ever, with Churchill the second, so it's a great comparison. the worst was Thatcher, although Cameron is giving her a run for her money! How long before Ed Milliband is former Labour leader? He'll be the former leader after serving two terms as Prime Minister!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Attlee was a fucking cunt who destroyed the UK. I wish he had died of cancer like Harold Wilson. Thatcher was the greatest Prime Minister by far. We should have let the fucking worthless commie Ralph Miliband die in the Holocaust.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Maggie Thatcher was an utter joke just like CaMORON. Of course compared to you, they are pretty decent people. At least those asses wouldn't wish death on the opposisition and indeed both Milk Snatcher and her current day version would find your comments as disgusting as me and the vast majority of people on this planet. Oh and it was Atlee who have us the NHS, something every Tory leader since hasd't dare touch and the last two tory PM's have always praised. Pwned!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Baroness Thatcher rightly cut funding for the NHS. It should be completely privatised like Royal Mail and the fucking worthless left-wing BBC. So glad Mo Mowlam died of cancer just after Robin Cook died.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Juan, they won't privitise it- they haven't got the guts, or the support of this great nation. Only a few twits (you being one of these idiots) want that to happen. A few idiots against the rest of the tens of millions of decent people in this country is small fry!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 We're already privatising Royal Mail, the BBC will be next.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready No it won't, your liberal "mates" won't allow it!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Vince Cable is in charge of privatising Royal Mail and we don't even need the Lib Dems any more.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready So what? Just because he is in charge of RM dosen't mean his party will want the BBC to go the same route, you idiot! And yes, you do need the lib dems still because trhere is no chanced you would be in a majority government without them!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Oh yes there is now. Ed Miliband is very much like Neil Kinnoick -the vast majority of people have already decided they never want him as prime mninister. We don't need the BBC anymore now that we have hundreds of TV channels.
Pete Postlewaite is dead, another Labour supporting twat.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready No they're isn't. The BBC will NOT be privitised. Ed Milliband may or may not have simlarities to Kinnock, but one HUGE difference, unlike Kinnock he will be PM not a "should have been" PM. Show me where your source states most of this country don't want Milliband as PM? Of course, you don't have one. However, there are plenty of polls that prove most people don't want Cameron in charge and next election he won't be!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Miliband's personal popularity is very low according to all sources, unlike David Cameron's. Cameron should call an alection right now to secure a majority. The BBC is fucking worthless crap and the licence fee should be scrapped.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Then post some sources, if all sources say this, then you should be able to give me 100 sources! You can't cause you're talking balls! Oh, and if you think the BBC should be made commerical, then I guess you're the kind of person who enjoys the shite commerical channels make like X Factor, Big Brother, I'm A Celeb, Come Dine With Me repeats 4 times a day, etc... No thanks, I'd rather pay the £130 a year to get the BBC as is!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 The latest YouGov poll for a start. Miliband is a disaster and he won't even last one parliamentary term as party leader. The BBC is rubbish, and pointless.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready The only rubbish is you. There is no You Gov poll that has been printed that shows people want Milliband out. Infact the lastest YouGov poll which is on their homepage this morning shows that under his leadership Labour is on 43%, The tories on 39% and LD on 7%. Grow up Juan, this is proof his party is the most popular! Oh and BBC forever!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 The BBC is fucking crap and it should not exist. The latest YouGov poll shows that most people think Miliband is a fucking disaster. So sorry his worthless commie father didn't go up the chimney at Dachau.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready The BBC is good and will continue to exsist no matter what you think. The latest You Gov poll clearly shows Labour in the lead (well done Ed!) and you're nazi scum!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 Four points is hardly "clearly in the lead" and there's not going to be another election until at least 2014. If Labour had formed a coalition with the Liberals they would have had to make huge cuts to public spending and Cameron would be over 20 points ahead in the polls.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Cameron would not be 20 points ahead, not least of all due to the fact the tories would have dropped him as leader like they did with the three other losers they've had since John Major suffered defeat! Besdies, your latest attempt at fiction does not alter the fact you've been talking out your arse as always! And yes, four points is clearly in the lead because mathamatics clearly shows Labour in the lead, and by the next election it will be more than four points!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 By the next election Dave will have eliminated the deficit, enabling him to win a clear majority and make Sir Nick Clegg the British ambassador in Europe instead of the useless Baroness Ashton.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Dream on! By the next election even more people will see what the liars clegg and cameron have done is come up with plans that make us even worse off and it will be Ed to the rescue!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Wrong. This coalition will fall within two years.
sugarraygras 11 months ago
@sugarraygras The Lib Dems can't allow there to be an election until 2015.
JuanMacready 11 months ago
@JuanMacready Deleting my post about you supporting the halocaust won't do anything... I've just mentioned this sad act of yours on my profile page.. try deleting that! Oh and now I'm blocking you from commenting on my page... have a nice 2011!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@JuanMacready Ed has made mincemeat of Camoron and Clegg at every PMQs and is on course to become the next PM!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
As Ive said the 8 million figure I agree with you So I dont know why u keep bring it up,
In 79 the NHS budget was £8 billion in 97 it was £34 billion even taking into account inflation that is an increase
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark You're the one that brings it up and I mention it because it's a HUGELY misleading figure. "Out of work" is not the same as "unemployed". If you won the lottery, got a huge inhertaince, or made enough to retire, you'd probably consider not working. To include people like that in the unemployment figure is wrong. Those are people who don't need to work. End of. Get it?
Stop going on about budgets. Fact is Labour governments have better NHS services.
TomTresh3 1 year ago
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The 8 million figure includes retired businessmen, stay at home mothers and students that do not claim JSA. "Out of work" and "unemployed" are not the same thing, at least as far as benefits go. I never said NHS spending wasn't cut in the '70s, simply pointed out the tories didn't need to cut nhs spending because they cut the nhs as a whole in the 80s and 90s, which is much worse! I'll continue to reply as long as I want to!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
No its not maybes, Interest and how long u pay it off effects the the cost of goverment bonds thats just fact, before the last election britain was weeks away from defalting on its debts Like Island, Im not a tory voter ither, and do exept that there is a thing called an economic cycle, but when u have growth in a cycle u should do 3 things cut tax in the right places to maximise revenues, Cut borrowing, Increase spending, Instead we borrowed to much
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
Russia is democratic... hahaha, what a joke.
partyhouse88 1 year ago
labour party gordon brown david cameron and nick clegg they all bunch of tossers full stop he should be shot in the head
david5767 1 year ago
Russia is hardly the best example of a democracy to use.
Dendiol 1 year ago
Labour, the party that want every native Brit to be go on welfare, and have us bring in another 40 million immigrants to work, sticking us all in high rises and on "terror estates" A party that manipulated police reports of crime, by piling them up with paperwork, so they just ignore the majority of complaints and problems with crime and anti-social behaviour. The party that rewards the criminals, and punishes the victims with their vile early release scheme. Labour, the party for the yobs.
JusticeSeeker1000 1 year ago 11
@JusticeSeeker1000 , If Labour had won they would have held onto power for years by flooding the country with more immigrants meaning more Labour voters, How anyone of Anglo-Saxon origin can vote for this pile of shit is beyond me unless they are as thick as pigshit of course.
Bellalodicci9 1 year ago
@Bellalodicci9 The tories aren't going to stop the immigration u nitwit! They will however rise unemployment, just like they did last time they were in power!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 - Thankyou for some truth
MegaSMITH1123 1 year ago
Labour wanted to half gov debt in 4 years, In other words cuts for 8 years, Cutting at that rate would mean higher interest payments meaning larger cuts, So more public sector jobs would be lost and Labour wasent going to cut buisness taxis so the private sector wouldent of recruited them, It would Also mean high inflation. look at the facts unemployment would of been higher under labour. Your an Econmic retard
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
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TomTresh3 1 year ago
No goverment debt interest and how long you pay it off is fact, Unemplyment at the mo is falling not rising. In the 80s unemployment had to rise because goverment borrowing had to be cut to tackle inflation which under labour in the 70s reached 26.9 percent, fact,
in 97 unemplyment was lower than 79, fact, Every Labour goverment has left office with unemplyment been higher than what the inhirete Fact, cus ur a retard u proberly dont know what inflation is
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Stop talking crap. The tories had been in government for almost a full term in the '80s before we reached record unemployment in this country, so stop trying to blame the labour party. Lets not also forget it was under the tories 1 million familes lost their homes. Yet you try and claim the country was better off? What a joke!
I do know what inflation is. I also know what bullshit is. You talk plenty!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
If the last goverment had spent less than the economy grow we wouldent haft to had these cuts, Inflation did reach 26.9 percent in the 70s, Tackerling inflation u haft to rase interest rate, cut money surplys, cut borrowing, restrane pay or cut jobs, Its fact it has to be done, long into the future inflation will rise as a result of all the printed money from last year, When I say better off Im not saying every 1 was, I was talking per capiter which people wher so,
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark No. In a country where in the 1980s 1 million homes were lost and 3.5 million were unemployed we were MUCH worse off than we are nowAnd If you think for one second I believe you are working advising the government, you've got another thing coming. If you're "soloutions" and opinions were any good then please explain why Labour gave us less unemployment that the tories, in a time of global finanical crisis. I'll tell you why, they know how to run a country!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
My critisim is not the injection money into the economy, My critism is that moeny should of been put aside for when you have crises, unemployment today is over 5 million, The low unemplyment that u are talking about is only reffering to people on the clament count not on every one on out of work benifits.
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Dream on! Unemployment is not 5 million in this country, it is less than half that. You talk about looking at facts, yet you don't come up with any!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 There are over 8 million unemployed actually.
The NHS should be completely privatised along with the worthless BBC. Sodomites should still be jailed.
JuanMacready 1 year ago
@JuanMacready No "Juan" there are not 8 million unemployed, and the NHS should not be privitised. Let's see your beloved tories DARE to touch it... and never win an election again!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@TomTresh3 There are well over 8 million unemployed adults of working age. The NHS is fucking crap. So glad Mo Mowlam went BLIND before the cancer killed her at only 55. HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JuanMacready 1 year ago
Ur right on the 8 million figure and it has risen very sharply over the last 20 yrs, This Tom bloke which u replyed to is a retard, He will dispute any figures even if there fact, Hes a nob
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark The only knob is you. You claim 5 millon a couple of days ago and now someone else claims 8 million unemployed you say that is the right figure. Yet you still claim your job is advising over government. If it was then surely you would know what the figure was, and not have a 3 million discrepency within 2 days. Proof positive you are a liar and are not fit to advise the manure assocation, let alone the government.
TomTresh3 1 year ago
Unemployment is also the highest its been since 1996 so Labour left office with it higher than they inherited, The defence budget has been cut every year since 91 if u compare it with r.p.i,. Labour said it would protect welfare, N.H.S, Schools Police International development, that would mean cutting defence spending by nearly 40% plus the defence budget is £38 billion in the red,, I’m not a lab or Tory I get on well with both, so stop all the party political stuff and look at the facts
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark I do look at facts. I ask myself do I want a party in power who gave this country the NHS, the minimum wage, gave more equality to people, stoped jailing people because they were gay, were all for natalisation, who don't "hide" tax increases in indirect taxation so they can pretend we are "earning more", etc. Or do I want a party that stood against all of that. No. I want one that's for it. That's why I vote Labour! That enough "fact" for you?
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Labour may have left office with unemployment higher than 1996, but then again they didn't have a four term like the previous tory government. The fact remains it was the tories that gave us record unemployment in the 1980s and also THREE recessions each one exclusive to this country, unlike the global crisis.
TomTresh3 1 year ago
I’m not disputing Labour achievements, Imp quite a fan of Tony Blair but I’m not political so the only reason why I kept writing these things is your doing the party thing again which is not all acute, Go to direct gov where we publish the unemployment figures, The claiment count is 2.4 million, plus the number of people on incapacity is 2.6 million that is well over 5 million
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark You can't include people who CAN'T work in the unemployment figure. If you CAN'T do something, then you can't be included. Common sence. Therefore, by your own admittance the correct figure is 2.4 million - the amount of people out of work that can work!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
I agree with u about dentists, My preosers Advised the Major goverment not to shut down one of the dental schools which smiller to defence spending takes a while to have an effect, Ur still on about politics again, its also true now the nhs budget will grow by 01 percen after cpit this yr, Labour .Labours policy at the election was to give it c.p.i +0
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Yeah dubass, i am "on about politics". Remind me again is the Prime Minister a politicain? Is this video about a prime minister? What do you expect people to talk about? Manure? Besdies, you talk enough shit for all of us!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark Yes it is maybes. When you speculate it's a maybe, not a fact, END OF! Oh and it's Ireland, not Island. So much for you working "advising the government"! And you really call cutting the police force and the defence budget cutting "in the right places", get real. "The right places" would be making sure the mega rich pay their correct tax (i.e. Lord Ashcroft), but the tories will never do that, because they don't wanna upset their donors!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
Sorry for the bad spelling I suffer slightly from dyslexia, I don’t know why u keep on about the Tories, yes your right about house represents, I was talking per capture not Individual groups, And I also think that Nigel Lawson made some big mistakes, for example in the 87 stock market crash he cut interest rates back to far which lead to higher inflation which is partly one of the reasons we had black Wednesday.
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark This wasn't about bad spelling, it was about you pretending you advise the government to try and pass your babble off as "inside" facts. Dosen't fool me and dosen't fool anyone else!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
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TomTresh3 1 year ago
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@SuperDanielclark You look at the facts - record unemployment was given to us under a troy government. Facts are realities, no maybes, not could have beens. That's all you have. Not facts!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
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@SuperDanielclark You look at the facts - record unemployment was given to us under a tory government. Facts are realities, no maybes, not could have beens, not your opinion. That's all you have. Not facts!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
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@SuperDanielclark You look at the facts - record unemployment was given to us under a tory government. Facts are realities, no maybes, not could have beens, not your opinion. That's all you have. Not facts!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@SuperDanielclark You talk fantasty. All you do is give out personal insutls and talk about "maybes" and "could have beens", not reality! The tories are going to ruin this country (like they did in the '80s) and will loose the next election. Enjoy your one term government!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
When u say bullshit, Just to point My orgisation advises the goverment and the last 1, On unemployment, people seem to forget that public sector jobs are funded by the tax payer who earn money, Its the private sector that employs people to pay tax,
If u carry on raising taxis to inflate the public sector, Companys go abroad along with tax rev, To have high employment in both sectors in the long run is to have low tax rates to attract buisness to pay for it, all facts not bull shit
SuperDanielclark 1 year ago
@JusticeSeeker1000 Cameron's gone PC now. He once said he wanted to be heir to Blair!
The politically-correct Left are funny folk. All property is theft (except when it's theirs), all people are of equal worth (except the ones they want to constantly guilt-trip for the sins of the fathers) and all points of view are valid and worthy of protection (except those they don't like).
Very unequal these 'Equality' people!
Click my name to view TOLERANCE SUITE FOR THE VITRIOLIC ENLIGHTENED!
TheDustpile 1 year ago
@JusticeSeeker1000 You plonker! Where do you get your numbers from? Your arse I bet, that's what you talk out of. Fool!
TomTresh3 1 year ago
@JusticeSeeker1000 oh dear. It appears that you feel that the Condems will sort out the poor, but you are wrong. When people starve, they take. Lets hope they dont come through your window tonight, as there wont be any police to stop them. Sweet dreams.
sugarraygras 11 months ago
everyone should mimic the russians because they are the epitomy of democracy
partyhouse88 1 year ago
@partyhouse88 you are literally a moron. Sure, the Russians don't have a good reputation but how can you imply that their voting system isn't a democratic system?
rch51 1 year ago
Lol @ Large Essays that make up most the comments,
Bottom line, we all know sh*t all.
DeBuff3D 1 year ago
"I am the weakest link, good bye."
LOL, bye bye Gordon. And good riddance to another useless, despicable left wing nutjob academic that thinks government borrow/tax/print and spend is the road to prosperity. Evil, evil man.
checktofolder 1 year ago
You can tell the Labout PR department is out of a job and bored...just read all the comments by these Brown "fans". bahahaha This is Labour's idea of embracing technology;. What a bunch of peasants...no wonder this country has collapsed economically.
garb2274 1 year ago
Gordon Brown really was a great PM. =( So under-appreciated.
MrMarkMilkman 1 year ago
And yet another cabal sidetracked, the new government is only interim until disclosure is announced.
grazer7 1 year ago
Gordon Brown should be killed for the way he betrayed our people.
stepheng1483 1 year ago
he genuinly strives to serve the people. And while some of the less informed people may blame him for the economic downturn, he is infact the only man who stood between a UK recession and a UK depression.
parttimelaver 1 year ago
I'm a liberal/conservative, but i like Gordan Brown - and at the risk of sounding naive, i think i understand him. I don't know the man, but from what i gather, he is a very honourable human being.. Bad tempered, arrogant and stubborn yes, but not the total waste of space that the media and the public like to portray. Gordan Brown is infact, the only high ranking Westminster politician who is not in politics for his own personal gain - (CONTD)
parttimelaver 1 year ago
Good riddance to the One Eyed Scottish Idiot. Future history books will quote Clarkson's appropriate description. What an embarrassment for your family. You will go down in history as a failure,a loser and a delusional fool Brown. I hope you have fucked off out of England and never set foot on our soil again. You are not welcome.
Bellalodicci9 1 year ago
@Bellalodicci9
Apart from a string of obscenity and schoolboy style name calling, there, like the Tory party, is nothing of substance in what you say. You and Clarkson, (personal friend and neighbour of the Camerons), will eat your words. With the Lib-Dems, they have thrown out their principles and views that they campaigned on, for personal power and gain. An insult to the electorate, who will throw them both out before long. When their 5 year minimum term stitch up, is voted out as illegal.
onwebcameron 1 year ago
@Bellalodicci9 Honestly, whenever i read or hear comments like that i know i'm deeling with a absolute idiot who knows nothing about the complexities of government. Brown was not a bad primeminister. People simply didn't like him. Don't confuse the two.
parttimelaver 1 year ago
@Bellalodicci9 What a way to show to the whole word how much of an idiot you are, quoting Jeremy Clarkson, a very bias old fashioned presenter. I would find him funny if anything he said wasn't from a script, he show's his true colours when he isn't reading from an auto Que. Right now your coming off as the loser and a failure accept I doubt there will be a place i history for you. Brow will be remembered for what good he did, remember when he led the way in fixing the global financial crisis?
IHeartThisVidxD 1 year ago
@Bellalodicci9 Narrow minded prick, you do know Clarkson sucks off Cameron dont you? Oh sorry because he is on Top Gear he clearly kows best. Funny you say he is not welcome because personally, i'm gonna buy him a pint.
matttothefletch 1 year ago
@Bellalodicci9 I agree with you entirely. Well done.
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 <Had to be said. I was a bit harsh though . It's not Brown's fault . He was just not cut out for the job. I voted UKIP not Tory but I must admit I am impressed with the the Tory/Libs kicking Buy-to-Letters in the bollocks by raising taxes on second home ownership from 15% to 40%. A home is somewhere to live not to make money out of and exploit lower income earners.
Bellalodicci9 1 year ago
And a word of advice from someone far away in Australia. The Labor party here are scarcely different to the Labor party over there. Dimwits who can't manage the economy and care only about staying in power...no matter how much damage thy are doing to the country. I would not relinquish the pound either...look at what is happening in Greece and take note.
danielmy08 1 year ago
Thanks God this idiot is gone. What a pompous turd he was. He should have lost in a landslide after all he has done. Even one of his own party members spoke out in the days leading up to the election saying he was the worst PM in UK history. There really must be alot of dumb voters in the uk!
danielmy08 1 year ago
bye gordy fuck off cameron you posh twat
tommy444able 1 year ago
This piece of shit should be hung for treason.
stepheng1483 1 year ago
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ragnor56 1 year ago
maybe i should have voted huh
ysoljers 1 year ago
poor bastard he got fucked by the media, yeah he was a twat but not as bad as they made him out to be. cameron get ready for when they turn on you
acandterra 1 year ago
@acandterra
Hey I was just going to agree with you, then I realised who you were, lol.
It's Mal. You Tube is a small place eh, fancy bumping into you?
onwebcameron 1 year ago
@onwebcameron
acandterra 1 year ago
fuck him off back to where he came from
k80nya 1 year ago
The UK works a lot like this,
Its basically an Allied Corporate/political system full of self serving suits doing what ever the EU tells them to do for lots of cash.
disguised as Democracy with poorly planned unfair elections.
Under the current system if 3/4 of Britain had voted for any other Party except the BIG 3
they would still not be in power.
Its a joke, reminds me of Black adder the 3rd
robjbray 1 year ago
love the way these guys can steal from the public and get away with it ... these A holes are the real terrorists of today ...... as for creating more money inflation has risen alot and isnt gonna be able to go much higher before the crash will happen, and thats what will happen if they create more money
pigme1000000 1 year ago
Gordon Brown walks from No.10, fires up the V12 Vantage and .... Wehey! He's living life to the max!!!
chinnychoo 1 year ago
Mrs. Brown looks depressed. Big rear end on her too : )
Melville10 1 year ago
Oh yes I like this report...in the Russian Dumas all the votes are counted but Putin does what he wants anyway. bahahahaha...this report is a joke as is Russian democracy.
garb2274 1 year ago
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halcyon0830 1 year ago
Anyway...wow this news channel is a bit shit isn't it? What does it mean by wasting "60 per cent of votes"? Only the Russians know...the "experts" on democracy...bahahaha. They want to lecture the oldest democracy in the world on how to be democratic when onoly yesterday they had Stalin in power? bahahaha...the irony.
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 Banks are the real criminals, not a bunch of petty lowlifes living on an estate somewhere. They can create unlimited wealth if they wanted which is enough to drag us out of any debt and have enough left over to pay for all public programes and your dreaded benefits. Banks and government could create an economic boom tommorow if they wanted. But they dont want that, they keep the stupid public distraced with fake issues like MPs expenses and the "welfare state".
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck Oh and...banks are the real criminals? The banks created the wealth in the first place. How many people bought their house because of the fucking banks ya twat? How many could afford to buy their house without a mortgage. Now fairs fair banks went too far (fault of the Labour government not putting controls) but if it wasn't for banks we'd be in a situation like the Victorian times where only rich people had a house..ya fucking twat. God you're thick.
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 No what i'm saying is, they have a trillion pounds. And due to a fractional reserve system, why cant they lend out 900 billion, then 800 billion then 700 billion etc. They fatten us up and shear us. People complain about deficits, debt and public sector austerity/cuts. But all these problems could we wiped out very quickly if the banks multiplied the money supply and invested it in real projects.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@garb2274 The banks could create trillions and trillions of pounds which is more than enough to pay off any debts and keep services alive. This "economic crisis" is no more than a deliberate crisis used to centralise controll and put it in the hands of a few people who have most of the welath and power.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck Yes they could but then the pound would be undervalued to the point of becoming like the Lira. Of course to a simpleton like you who's most important decision is whether he should eat boiled potatoes or roast potatoes discussing national finance is ridiculous. You are a whack job my friend. Yeah right all a conspiracy...take your meds. I believe in certain conspiracies too but what you're saying is just fucking paranoid and delusional.
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 New conspiracy which I just thought up: Neo-cummunists from Russia caused the global financial meltdown in order to reinstate a new Soviet Empire starting with dun-dun-duuun...Georgia. or...The Jewish Lobby instigated the global financial meltdown with the help of Madoff so as to divert media attention from their land-grabbing of Palestinian territory...hey not likely they'd go to all that trouble but just as valid/credible as your conspiracy...
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 the pound would not be undervalued because you have created physical wealth to buy things with the new money you create. This technically could be considered a conspiracy on the part of people like Alan Greenspan and the central banks considering their actions are coordinated and because of the fact governments use crisis in order to carry out further centralisation of power. Listen to Webster Tarpley for truth.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck bahahaha...you think printing tons of cash would not undervalue the pound? No of course not...how do you think the Italia Lira went from around the value of 1 pound to 1 Lira in 1946 to 3000 Lira to 1 Pound in 2002 before changing over to the Euro? By printing tons and tons of the stuff. You don't have a clue about economics, do you? Not only will it undervalue the Pound but it will also raise inflation. There more there is of something, the less it's worth. Bozo...
garb2274 1 year ago
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@garb2274 "how do you think the Italia Lira went from around the value of 1 pound to 1 Lira in 1946 to 3000 Lira to 1 Pound in 2002 before changing over to the Euro? By printing tons and tons of the stuff."
Printing money and putting it to no good use devalues a currency. Creating money while simultaniously creating physical welath does not devalue the currency.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck "Printing money and putting it to no good use devalues a currency. Creating money while simultaniously creating physical welath does not devalue the currency." bahahaha...I love it how vague you are. How would this "physical wealth" be created considering the manufacturing industry in Britain is non-existent? You think the Lira was not put to good use? How do you know? Don't tell me..you;re an expert on post-war Italian history..oh please you are getting less credible..stop
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 You could loan out money to begin building factorys for manifacturing. The creation of new money would have a multiplier effect. It would put contractors to work and the new capital produced could begin producing goods. Welfare spending would decrease because there would be more jobs and you would collect more tax. People would put the new money in the bank again and the process would repeat.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck "You could loan out money to begin building factorys for manifacturing."
That shows what a simplified and ignorant view you have of the world. Manufacture what exactly? You do realise that when you manufacture stuff, in order to create wealth for Britain, you have to sell it ABROAD? So what are you going to sell. What invent something at the top of your head...? Oh yeah how realistic. What cars? Car industry is dead.
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 We could sell all the useless fucking scroungers, and leftie fuckers like you for fertilizer. You arrogant fucking prick. i would love to meet you face to face and watch you squirm.
tyhplas 1 year ago 8
@LandlessPeasantFuck And I still think your conspiracy is week, to say the least. You say it was all planned so a few would cease control of the banks...but what would be the point when these few already had control? Bob Diamond anyone? barclays? He nearly LOST control after the collapse..he just about hung on. So who would these "people" be if not the head fat-cats? Aliens? Come on..you;re starting to sound delsuional..to say the least!!
garb2274 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck Listen, I am not blinded by politicians crap..I know JFK was probably an inside job..I also suspect no man has ever set foot on the moon and I'll accept with all probability the US governemnt was involoved somehow in 9/11. But to say the global crisis was caused by the very people who lost most of all is silly and far-fetched. Tell me the Chinese or Arabs did it..and I might find it a bit more credible.
garb2274 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck And as for your "Listen to Webster Tarpley" come on. I just proved to you that in a few minutes I can think about many conspiracies. So if I started a website and made a few speeches it would make it more credible? You could argue just about anything quite well if you put your mind to it. Doesn;t make it anymore true. So tell me, does he have an explanation for the collapse of Lehmens? I bet he does too...the sacrificial lamb? Oh please...
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 Thats not even a bloody argument! You say its easy to make up conspiracys, I agree! But then you go to the other extreme of saying conspiracys dont exist because people can make them up. We know this fanancial meltdown is a conspiracy because we can look at the actions of people in government and what they have done to bring this about. There is no need to make up conspiracys, we just have to look at the evidence.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@garb2274 " But to say the global crisis was caused by the very people who lost most of all is silly and far-fetched."
Who lost most exactly? Of was it the banks who got trillions of pounds and dollars with their staff in government? Webster Tarpley pretty much has an explanation for everything, he has made some stunningly accurate predictions based on his expert knowledge.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck Who lost most of all you ask? What about Lehmans...I suppose they don't count? All the board and executives of that company...doesn't count cause it goes against your theory, right? What about Madoff? Does he count...oh no I suppose not. What about the fact that bonuses have been cut and are now scrutinised? Does that count. Yours and that Tarpley bloke theory is far fetched and unrealistic. It just shows a lack of understanding of the banking system.
garb2274 1 year ago
@garb2274 Madoff has nothing to do with this. He is just a criminal who got caught. Although i'm sure others were involved. The collapse of Lehman was just about narrowing competition.
LandlessPeasantFuck 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck bahahaha...just a criminal that got caught. This proves you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Santander/Abbey Bank in the UK lost 6 billion because of Madoff. Yes thaty's right, their high yeild bond was through him. So were many others. In total he lost over 50 billion of savers money. Vanished. Nothing to do with this? Apart from anything, Madoff was the head of the fucking NASDAQ.
garb2274 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck Abd this also shows up the holes in your theory. Madoff was bamboozled only because of the credit crunch. Otherwise he'd still be happily scamming away today. Because of the crunch people started trading in their bonds early and the whole house of cards collapsed because the money wasn't there. But this is what doesn;t make sense. In nearly 30 years, Madoff was investigated more than once by a government body, yet they closed an eye. So he was important/connected. Right?
garb2274 1 year ago
@LandlessPeasantFuck So you can't deny Madoff has friends in high places. So what doesn't make sense is...why would he be the sacrficial lamb if this was all planned? That doesn't fucking make sense. And someone inside high-finance with senators and ex-presidents as close buddies, not to mention all the top execs and CEOs..he wouldn't be aware of a conspiracy? Unless you're telling me he along with Lehman gladly took the fall so everyone else could profit. You're fucking nuts and dumb as shit.
garb2274 1 year ago