people always say read the bible read the bible the bible sys this the bible sys that...
please don´t get me wrong but in 10 years the bible have been changed 200 times..
so.. what do you mean read the bible? wich one have you been reading.. wich one of the thousand diffrent bibles? and DON'T tell me i am wrong becouse if you do you dont know nothing and should researtch youre self
@Go0gIez Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but you are wrong. I assum e you refer to the different translations, but that's what they are, TRANSLATIONS. You can read the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic to make the "Go0glez Translation."
" I never asked for any God to give me life! And I am pretty damn sure the deformed, povery sticken, mentally challenged, raped and molested children sure as hell didn't asked to be "given life". They, nor do I, not do you, owe anything to anyone who "gave you life".
@mjfraser04 You just gave me somethin to think about...but I would like to say that when God created the world, there wasn't supposed to be any sin in it, but when Satan tempted Eve, that started sin. AND since sinners go to Hell, Jesus gave us a way out so we'd have an eternity of happiness instead of an eternity of torture and torment. I'd say thats worth thanking Him and worshiping Him for.
@mpw19962001 That has nothing to do with the fact that "God" selfishly created us, just so we can live for eternity...whether it be in heaven or hell. There is so much immorally wrong with the Christian god and the bible. I am glad you have opened your mind enough to at least "...think about" it. I will never tell anyone to think a certain way. All i ask is that people educate themselves on not theist AND atheist point of views (especially regarding religion).
@mjfraser04 I don't think any actual physical evidence, but if you believe in God, which you so clearly demonstrated, how can you not believe in life after death, ie heaven and hell?
@mpw19962001 I do not believe in any supernatural god in the sky. And I certainly do not believe in the Christian god. When you read and research both sides of the coin, no rational, moral, or logical thinking person could believe in something where there is absolutely no evidence for and in fact, a mass amount of evidence that the Christian god does not exist. I use to be a devout Christian for 25 years until I took it upon myself to educate myself.
It's a good message you have Ray, but try to control your tone of voice. It's a good message, but the experience can be negative for people if you become argumentative and mean in your tone of voice and words. Hang in there though Ray. Keep at it. Thanks for all you do.
No Where living in a fallen creation. And everyone has sinned not just our ancestors where guilty to. And the catholic church ain't christian they follow the pope and other non biblical traditions. Repent and trust in Christ death is coming and so is Gods judgement.
I was never asked to be born. I had absoloutely zero input on my exsistence. Why do I have to thank...no, worship a diety of anykind that selfishly put me into exsitence, only to be destined to live forever, again without my input, whether it be in heaven or hell? Why? If someone gives you something you never asked for or even wanted, and in some cases has made your life miserable (child deformities, born into poverty, abused, etc)...do you owe that person your life?
@Domodeath No, the way the world is today has no bearing on what we do, according to Christianity. Bible said the reasons we have things like malaria, cancer, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanos killing millions is because of Adam's sin, not because of what we have done, but because of 2 people: Adam and Eve. What kind of a teaching is that? It is basically teaching kids that it's ok to punish a person for what their ancestors did. Is that the kind of moral you want your kids to stick to?
@Casshyr Dude, you and us, are the ones repeatedly sinning, what do you exspect GOD to be happy? After all the use of GOD's Name in vain, fornication, adultry, murder, abortion, homosexuality, swearing ect? What kind of a GOD would just set back and not give the world justice?
@Domodeath For a God who supposedly can do anything, he is quite mean if he needs to punish us for being faulty (which is indirectly also his fault because we are his creations, according to Christianity). If he is indeed all powerful, then he can just snap his magic finger and make us all perfect, instead of using hell to punish us. I mean, if I'm God, that's what I would do. Either he is non-existent, or he is not all-powerful + all-loving like you ppl claim. He can't be both.
@Casshyr I never claimed He was all-loving, the problem is that you think people deserve to be perfect however the fact is that no Adamite has ever done anything worth honor apart from The Grace of GOD.
@Domodeath you are missing my main point tho: if God is all powerful like you claim he is, and that he wants us to be good, then why doesn't he just make us good? what's with all the trials? and better yet, why would a loving God (Bible said he is loving btw, cuz without God, there is no love, as said so by the Bible) throw a person in hell? I support punishment for wrongdoers, but eternal punishment? no way. maybe 100 years in hell...but eternally? wtf!
@Casshyr (1) Because our race failed and were wicked and turned against Him and don't want to be good by nature, (2) If you could understand The Holiness, Righteousness and Awesomeness of GOD The Creator of all and the unholiness, wickedness and corruption of humans. Then would not question His actions, admittedly I, as a fallen being struggle with that myself. If a guy punches a another guy his age, that's not as bad as punching a cop, worst then that is punching the president, now imagen......
Now, take some time to think, maybe about five minutes, if you were to insult The Creator, The One who gave you life, who is perfect and enthroned in holiness and majesty, we as people punish others within time, we see them committed against man, who is within time, but GOD is eternal and so the punishment and wrath of GOD is also eternal.
@Domodeath I get what you are saying. But personally, IF I am God (hypothetically of course), I would not punish any1 eternally. If someone insults me, I would punish that person only for as long as that person has lived (ex. 85 years). I would not send any1 to eternal damnation. I guess that makes me more loving than God then, huh?
i don't like the way her evangelizes , its intimidating and i cud actually lead people away from christ instead of drawing them to him. He doesn't engage people, he talks at people instead of having understanding and compassion conversation
"God is not the cause of suffering. Man's sin brought the consequences of the fall." So it's our fault that we are not perfect and he should punish us for his failure? Haha you christians say the darnest things.
So basically what he's saying is if the world would turn from sin and no one sinned ever again, there would be no floods, earthquakes, cancer, aids ect....total and complete bullshit....
@audveltadmuna Yes He did. And as a result He is able to display attributes of Himself that we would other wise not be able to see. Such as grace, mercy, justice, wrath, and forgiveness.
She talked about Jesus on the cross but he wouldn't admit that she already knows it- he obviously wasn't mentioning this for her- but for everyone around.
Bottom line all the preset suffering we see in the world: starvation, natural disasters, diseases, disabilities etc etc all have this is common --- they are a form of punishment handed out by God and imposed after the sentence was handed down by him on Judgement Day when he faced the person at their death.
So although in your eyes from what you have seen that this has done so far in their life may appear innocent -- (person suffering has done no wrong ).. you have not seen what they did in their past life - only God has seen what they did wrong on their past life!!! So for example - if some drunk does a hit and run and leaves someone on a wheelchair when they die at judment day God may decide to make him disabled on his next life as a penalty...
Disability is one form of suffering of course ..and so too is starvation, illnesses, uglyness, etc etc
To really understand why this preset suffering exists one must understand reincarnation and the fact that if God created you in the past life he then also create you in the next life. Suffering is a punishment from God. And God can impose that punishment as a reincarnation effect after he has judged you on your death.
@loveIsraelnow How do you know reincarnation doesn't exist?
If it's theory then the theory exists (cf. the 22 cases of Ian Stevenson M. D. for instance). Suffering based on a redistributive psychology may be the best "theory" for suffering yet.
Her main question boils down to: why is there a form of preset suffering - upon a person when they have not "DONE" anything wrong in my eyes or in their life so far ....they are in my eyes innocent.
Here is the answer to her question. We as a people don't follow God's laws. He said not to eat pork, we eat pork. God said to rest on the Sabbath day, Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. We don't rest. God said to keep his feast, HIS! We don't keep them.
We don't obey God and you ask why these things happen to the human race? God said if you did not obey him you would be cursed up to 4 generations in your family. NOW YOU KNOW! And don't come back and say we are not under the law but grace. NOT!
Ray, quite yelling. It doesn't "comfort" people. What you're saying sounds logical, but you're not preaching Paul. Paul had a DIFFERENT gospel (He called it "MY gospel") than Jesus that was given to him by Jesus. Gal 1:11-17a
@ 5:25, Ray quotes 1 Cor 6:11 "No thief, liar, blasphemer, etc, will inherit the kingdom" She says, "But He's all forgiving", he says " No He's not". WRONG!
THE VERY NEXT VERSE, 1 Cor 6:12 says, "& such were some of u, but you WERE WASHED & CLEANSED"! PAST TENSE!
@davidbrucemusicvideo ...NO WHERE in the Bible does it say that God is "ALL" Forgiving. God is forgiving to tyhose who come to REPENTANCE. God DOES NOT forgive the unrepentant sinner.
that God was reconciling THE WORLD to Himself in Christ, NOT counting men's sins against them.
1 John 2: 1-2
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for OUR SINS, & NOT ONLY FOR OURS but also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.
The righteous and the innocent children are taken away, so they can be spared from evil. Us Christians must have hope for tomorrow; with faith, that no matter what happens....Even if the stars fall and the sun gets darkened, His love will still be there. Have faith in the Redeemer, for those of us who sleep, will soon be awakened.
@OpeningSalvoe To be honest, I'd much prefer not to use a mic when street preaching even if beside a main road. And it may only amplify the traffic too. And with amplification, he may not be able to hear the other person trying to make a point while he speaks.
Classical Biblical style is what Jesus did, gathered a crowd and spoke. Thousands would gather so, he'd shout.
With street Evangelising, you ask people to step forward and ask them questions and shout for all to hear.
Politicans do it. They go out travelling across the country and find a spot, stand up and shout to the people that if they "vote for this party" they'll get this, that and the next thing.
Preachers get up and shout to the people that if they believe and put all faith in God, and are born again in Jesus they'll have eternal life. I'm not planning on voting as most politicans are corrupt, but if I was asked to vote on a born again poll, I'd check yes.
i like to stand on street corners and piss people off by telling them that a invisible man is going to send them to be anally raped. Then i dont answer their question, its great fun and i love doing it. then i go home and play with my prostate, and fondle children.
in my experience, 99% of ppl who say they are catholic do not know one thing about Jesus Christ. hence the reason they vote for anti-chirst candidates like obama. (notice, i am not calling obama the anti-christ, im saying he is an anti-christ. huge difference)
@outlawsofthemarsh i vote for ppl who have the same world view as me. i agree with them on the issues, for the most part. some, probably most, of them have the same faith as i do.
@logoRH So, honestly you want your creator take away your will and of every human to do after his own will, be it good or bad? Come on, we are responsible for what is happening, not God.. in His GRACE we are no robots, but we are made in His own image.
@JonathanClement140 Because we are a fallen sinful race of creatures ever since our forefather disobeyed the first time. But there is hope, in Christ Jesus. His perfectness and pureness is covering those before God's Throne, who follow Him. :) It's true.
@JonathanClement140 Give it, these kinds of people can not be reasoned with. you ask a simple question and they give you a bunch of apologetic crap that doesn't answer anything. if god is the creator of us (humans) and we are flawed wouldn't that reflect badly on his "creating" skills?
This lady is open to listen, but to basically yell at her, she feels on the spot and will put her in a defensive mode. I think if he would just talk to her one on one it would've been better. I hope a seed was planted though, and she went back home and opened her bible.
Wow, I did not know how blind some believers are. This lady has obviously not read the Bible due to her extreme lack of understanding of the most basic scriptures. Ray tells nothing but the truth of God's living word, and these women are completely ignorant to him, but they themselves are disagreeing with the Holy Bible, not Ray.
@adam2O Christianity a relgion based on fear , If a person living in the jungle who has never heard of god but looks after his family and friends helps the needy and never does anyone any harm in his life is dammed to hell, because he is not part of your christian club. See the flaw in your argument. surely its more noble to be kind to your fellow man without expecting a reward for it. Religion was created by man to control the ignorant masses, research how many times the bible was rewritten.
@LogicThruCommonSense I notice in your comments, that you ignored 90% of my points. where in the bible does it say , that god has speical provisions for people that live in the jungle that have never heard of him. Their athiests "non believers"and are off to hell acording to your bible. Stop assuming things and go research them. The fear off God has been used to extract money and control the ignorant since the first cave man looked at the sun . Drop it and enjoy the rest of your life. good lad
@martinbyrne68 "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made,so that men are without excuse."
Even those in the Jungle believe there is a God using there common sense. What Indian or native have you seen that does not believe.Furthermore,God is a fair and Just God.Thats why I said we don't have to worry about them,because God is not cruel. He won't send them to hell unfairly.
@LogicThruCommonSense Tens of thousands of people from uncontacted tribes have been discovered up to last year in Brazil ,ALSO IN 2008 in Boliva, Peru, even in India and Australaisa,Not one of these people would have heard of christianty. So its OK from them not to belive in God according to you because of their ignorance about him, seems like your making this up as you go along. What about Muslims ,are they all going to hell afterall they are aware of Christianity but choose to worship Allah?
@martinbyrne68 didn't make up anything. I know that God judges fairly. And God's word shows that he wants all of us to be with him. By that knowledge I can summarize that he has provisions from them. Whether he will will judge them by there own righteousness(because they have a conscience of whats right or wrong) I don't know. All i have said is that it is clear that they believe in God. And nothing else. I don't know how God will deal with them. I just know they will not be judge unfairly.
This is not a perfect world. After what Adam did, sin entered the world. We are none of us innocent, even on the day of our birth. We are born into sin. That's why there is such imperfection such as disabilities, birth defects, etc. God created a perfect world, but once sin entered, it is no longer perfect. So, we are left to deal with very hard questions like this woman answered. The perfection is in the life to come, where nobody has to suffer any longer.
@MsAmericanChristian Your an innocent child. I imagine your the type of person that has never questioned anything in her life, and belives everything her pastor, congressman ect tells her. please open your mind ,ask what does your church do with all the money your congregation gives it, Why did you really go to war in Iraq, why did your counrty demand the death of the "Lockerbee bomber" and not comment on the captain of the us ship that shot down the Iranian passinger plane the same year. ASK
@martinbyrne68 Where on earth are you coming from? What do you know about me? Who are you listening to? If you only listen to non-believers, you are not open about anything. You don't even know what church I go to or even if I do go to church....nothing. No substance to your post at all....just a bunch of junk. Maybe you need to do a little research, or better yet, just ask a few questions yourself, before you make a string of accusations about somebody that you do not even know.
What a dick! He completely avoids her question, because he can't answer it, and then turns around and tries to tell her she's going to hell. The love of jesus strikes again. Ugh! Someone needs to tell him that on judgement day, god is the one who should have to answer, if he's the one who made us knowing that we would "sin" and then condemns us to eternal torture for "sinning".
Yes, God created man knowing that we would sin. But he created us with free will. If he hadn't we would be a bunch of mindless robots.Not, Humans. Is love really love if it's forced? But God doesn't condemn us to eternal torture, he made away for us to receive eternal salvation through his son Jesus.
I love this one. Free will = choice. Here are your choices: Believe in god (even though he's invisible and only bothers to keep his promises some of the time when he feels like it), or go to hell. Do it his way, or else. But you get to CHOOSE. Just choose what he wants you to choose. Or else. Until that day when every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. On that day we'll all be mindless robots with no choice. I hope one day your user name will ring true for your sake
God doesn't condemn you because you don't believe in him. You go to hell because your a sinner, and you exercise evil deeds. But through faith in Jesus you are made righteous in his eyes. God fulfills ALL of his promises not some. And yes you get to choose. Either do evil and get punished for it, or do what is right and get rewarded. This is the way it works in real life but nobody seems to be frustrated at it. If your mom offers you fun or torture, do you choose torture?
@eyesofblue217 I was Just giving an analogy. But lets just say you did something really bad. And your mom is willing to forgive you if you let her. If you accept her forgiveness she will take you to your most favorite place to visit. If you don't she'll spank you for what you did and permanently take away something you like? Cell phone, credit card etc. Wouldn't you accept the forgiveness and the gift?
@LogicThruCommonSense I would hope that my mom would forgive me whether I "let her" or not. And should she have to bribe me with prizes so that I want forgiveness? And spanking vs. eternal burning and torment? Doesn't really compare. And eternal punishment for even one finite sin. So your analogy should be more like: say you do something bad, and your mom sets your room on fire and locks you in there b/c you won't ask for forgiveness or "receive" it when it's offered.
@eyesofblue217 Again, remember I said I was giving an analogy. And the one I was giving was symbolic.The permanent punishment, taking away the phone, would be the one you compare to eternity. Again, but it was symbolic. But of course you can't compare this to eternity because it's lesser in degree .But if you want a better one here it comes. I'll end this conversation with this final note.
In court there are finite punishments, and infinite punishments. If your crimes are severe your punishment is infinite. I.e death, life in prison. In the same way your crimes against God are severe and have an infinite consequence. The judge won't just forgive you. And God won't jut won't let you go. However through faith in Jesus, your made clean, righteous. So please repent and put your faith in Jesus. It's been a pleasure talking man. I don't want to argue anymore. Bye
@LogicThruCommonSense I acknowledge your desire not to argue, so this is for anyone else who might be reading, in hopes that it helps them think. The invisible god, who set his "children" up for failure and then punished them when they failed is not a god I deem worthy of my faith, nor do I feel any need to repent to him for any "crimes" (esp. since he doesn't exist). His inaction does not earn my fear or devotion or belief.
Ray is as slippery as they come. I would find it easier to believe he was an agent of satan then an agent of god. Ray's contention that children suffer and starve and die of horrible diseases because Adam ate the fruit of a tree is absurd. Collective guild is immorral, sick and disgusting.
How much money is ray make of his various religious enterprises?
Great thanks for sharing this video. Ray always shares the Gospel in the proper way---points to the Law WHY we are guilty THEN brings it to the Cross....without the law and seeing what we broken it makes no sense why Jesus went to the Cross because it is foolish...."For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
@JonathanClement140 Jesus died on a Cross for a simple reason: The Gospel the good news of Jesus - God came down to earth in the form of a Human died for your sins but you have to A) Repent and B) Trust in Jesus that He died for your sins........what you don't understand is the fact that under the law you are guilty of Breaking God's Commandments and because of that you are Guilty and God MUST punish Sin. if you were standing before a Judge and said to the judge "I'm a good person..." ...
The Judge would tell you just because your a good person doesn't mean the good can outweigh the bad...think of a Criminal in a courtroom who's guilty of horrendous crimes such as Rape, Murder, ect....if the criminal said to the judge well judge I think your a good honest fair loving Judge and because of that can't you forgive me? BUT because the Judge is Love, Fair and Just He MUST Punish you for your Crimes! if not He would not be Just or Fair!
if you are still confused send me a PM this 500 character limit imposed I can't fit much . i probably won't have time to go back to the comments to reply so just send a PM next time thanks.
@Bearkiller777 Why do you keep going on this "judge" spiel? If a judge said "I'm going to let you go because somebody else offered to die in your place!" would you think he's just, or would you think he's a complete lunatic? God's NOT punishing certain people for their sins, and punishing others (Namely, Jesus) for something they DIDN'T do! In what way is that even REMOTELY just?
"God's NOT punishing certain people for their sins, and punishing others (Namely, Jesus) for something they DIDN'T do! In what way is that even REMOTELY just?"
Thats the Gospel (good news) You broke Gods Law (Ten Commandments) & Jesus (God Himself) paid your fine. Some random person didnt pay your fine but God himself. Thats not lunacy thats true love. Sin is so disgusting to God he cant just forgive it, Jesus had to suffer & die to take your punishment for the crimes.
No He just cant forgive it no strings attached. Try that in civil court, if you were guilty of breaking the law and the judge told you it was 50 yrs in prison or a $50,000 fine.
Except you dont have any money just as justice was going to take its course someone you dont even know steps into the courtroom & pays your fine. Now the judge can legally let you go because the fine has been paid for. Thats what Jesus did. We broke Gods Law & Jesus paid our fine.
@Romans10Thirteen YES HE CAN FORGIVE!!! HE'S GOD! WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?! We don't punish innocent people for the crimes of the guilty! We don't allow murderers to go because somebody offers to die for them! You would think that was absurd, so why do you think it's perfectly right and just if God does it? "Paid our fine." Stop trying to guilt trip people.
guilt trip people? most people think since they havent killed anyone thier good people. According to Gods Word, if you hate someone without cause God sees that as murder And the Bible says that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You have a conscience, you know right from wrong. With a tender conscience ask yourself if you have broken any of Gods Commandments.
@Romans10Thirteen Well, God would be WRONG then! He would also be wrong to torture people forever simply for a LIE! If God said it was a sin to not murder a baby, would you be guilty? I don't think so!
"He would also be wrong to torture people forever simply for a LIE!"simply for a lie? what if I told a lie that cost someone their life. The bottom line is Im guilty of breaking Gods Law & without Jesus God would give me justice without mercy. God dosent owe me nothing but wrath but he loves me so much he gave his Son as a ransom for my sins. John 3:16
@thatguynameddaveshow Hitler didn't kill anybody! He signed papers which authorized other people to kill! So, what does everybody think Hitler is so bad?
@JonathanClement140 What is your preoccupation with Hitler? What does that have to do with your claim that God tortures people? Just try and focus on the simple request of showing me, from the Bible, where God tortures or will torture anybody in hell, as you claim. Otherwise, shut up.
@thatguynameddaveshow If someboy is guilty of murder because they kill by proxy, then God is guilty of torture for allowing it to happen despite having the power to stop it.
If you want to accuse God of being a murderer and a torturer, go right ahead. He is still the King and Judge, you will have to account for all your words, deeds, and thoughts to Him on Judgment Day. Be sure to speak loud when you accuse Him of these things so that even the devil can hear you, I am sure he will get a laugh out of it since he has been trying to do that from the beginning, without success.
@thatguynameddaveshow Everytime anybody tried to in the past, they got burned at the stake. Something Christianity would no doubt continue if they had the political power. Fear of punishment is all you have. Truth does not need to rely on fear.
If your God exists, he's a power hunger, insecure, selfish, vain, egotistical, sadistic, unmerciful, unjust malevolent demon who deserves no worship, and is nothing more than a pimple of the universes ass.
@JonathanClement140 You do not know God, you have made up one in your mind and now you rail against that false god. Let's stick to reality.
Fear is not a bad thing, "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." I do not fear God as you do, He has redeemed me. You, however, face His full wrath if you do not repent and trust in Jesus to save you. This goes for everyone.
Good bye to you, you are a dead man speaking nothing but death.
@thatguynameddaveshow You are in denial! "OH, NO! I DON'T WANT TO STOP EXISTING WHEN I DIE! TELL ME THAT I'M GUARANTEED TO LIVE FOREVER AFTER I DIE! LIE TO ME! LIE TO ME! LIE TO ME, DAMNIT!" Learn to face reality and death like an adult!
The God I have described is the very one in the bible! I spent years trying to deny to reality as well, but in the end, I realized that Yahweh has no redeeming qualities. He's a bully, a sadist and a rapist.
@JonathanClement140 Hi. I'm interested in your assertion that God is a rapist; perhaps you'd like to look at my series Rape in the Bible. I have searched long and hard and not found any supporting evidence that God has ever raped anyone.
@davemakesawave You're the ones who always claim that God has to give us free will, or else it would be rape! How is "Love me, or burn in hell!" NOT rape?
Also, God allowed his men to rape women in the bible, Specifically in Numbers 31:17-18: The verse that killed my Christianity on April 28, 2007... The beginning of the happiest 2 months of my life.
@JonathanClement140 I don't know where you have quoted from but it doesn't seem to be about rape does it? Remember, God has provided a way out; if you don't want God in your life then you don't want to be with him in eternity. Regarding the passage you refer to above; i cover this on my channel. You'll also find a download on my channel page so that you can read it and see the truth. A more detailed download is being prepared and i cover all that you could copy and paste on the subject.
@davemakesawave "Keep the young virgins alive for yourself". As if they're going to want to fuck someone who killing their friends and family and humiliated them by giving them a hymen inspection. As soon as I read those words, my suspicions were confirmed: It was all a lie.
@JonathanClement140 I know that I don't have all the answers, just as no one does, but the Bible has more than all the answers we need. Oh dear, that is not the same as having all the answers we want is it?
@JonathanClement140 Oh yeah, and if this is the case then why hasn't all the rapes carried out by non-believers or atheists killed atheism for you? The fact is that it is our sinful nature that causes us to do wrong, not the will of God or some other trumped up get out concept. Jesus said our hearts are evil and that it is out of the overflow of our hearts that we comit crime against God and each other, which includes rape. Look up Deuteronomy 22 vs 25-26
@davemakesawave Funny, atheists tend to be the group that's the least predisposed to crime.
These were supposed to be people who SAW GOD DIRECTLY! This was MOSES who allowed his men to rape women, and God said absolutely nothing! This was MOSES for God's sake! God found him worthy to LEAD HIS PEOPLE, and if THIS is how God's representative on earth behaves, that says something! Namely, that this ISN'T divine, infinite wisdom, but the actions of cruel, barbaric, superstitious men!
@JonathanClement140 ha ha ha, what a load of bunkum. Well its up to you, the truth can be downloaded from my channel or you can avoid it and remain in your current delusion if you want.
@JonathanClement140 Don't bother my friend: and now you see in action the self imposed worthlessness of some humans on this tiny planet. They need it like an opium, lest they're lives are without ultimate meaning, this great nameless mirror called "God", a thing that loves all that they love and abhor all that they abhor. They act good for the reward or out of great fear for the infinite, either way you see the obvious corruption of these so called virtuous men. Never apologize for your humanity
@MasterHex They complain to us about living for the moment, but it's precisely a moment of hopeful destruction, where every single thing in this world is stripped to such a degree and judged, that they live for. To such a degree that some feel they are even entitled to hasten the destruction of this world, falling down into worship upon the wastelands even if they were to survive out of that single blinded hope.
Ah yes this great "Devil!" He's everywhere to you isn't he? Strange, it's fear of his example that God has so many followers, perhaps the very best tool of God's own creation wouldn't you agree? A real partner in cosmic crime.
To question is to possess the mouth of the Devil.
To speak out against the church is to have the Devil in you.
I suppose I should worry of vomiting green slime right? What a comedy indeed, this anti thesis called the Devil; the second side of the very same coin.
So now God Commands men everywhere to repent & put their trust in Jesus because he has appointed a day in which he'll judge the world in righteousness. You need to humble yourself(turn from pride), repent(turn from sin) & put your trust in Christ. Trust him like you would a Dr. in surgery or like youd trust a parachute if you knew you had to jump off an airplane.
@JonathanClement140 then you don't understand the Gospel I Pray God open your eyes and scales on your eyes blinding you from seeing the Gospel. the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...
@Bearkiller777 The idea that a perfect God needs to create anything, and then created something that is capable of falling and then punishing that creation for being the very way he created it, and then sacrificing himself to himself to change a rule he made himself is absurd!
@JonathanClement140 no that's incorrect that's not the Gospel. I'm going to bed if you really want to know the Gospel read it for yourself in the Bible and stop making assumptions or send me a PM I'd be glad to point you in the right direction a box with 500 characters max simply isn't enough to do that right now though...God Bless
Michael Jackson died because God was too busy over in Africa, giving AIDS to babies!
ashjacksonmusic 1 month ago
"Test your IQ"
"1. How many of each animal did Moses take into the ark?"
Oh that's just way too funny! :D
dummychaos 1 month ago
1 thing
people always say read the bible read the bible the bible sys this the bible sys that...
please don´t get me wrong but in 10 years the bible have been changed 200 times..
so.. what do you mean read the bible? wich one have you been reading.. wich one of the thousand diffrent bibles? and DON'T tell me i am wrong becouse if you do you dont know nothing and should researtch youre self
excuze me for my bad english.
Go0gIez 2 months ago
@Go0gIez Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but you are wrong. I assum e you refer to the different translations, but that's what they are, TRANSLATIONS. You can read the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic to make the "Go0glez Translation."
branchbros 1 month ago
this guy thinks he's a preacher and has been chosen by God! ha, ha, ha...
SuperRenata23 2 months ago
you sound like satan, complaining about god giving you life, man up
the146truth 3 months ago
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" I never asked for any God to give me life! And I am pretty damn sure the deformed, povery sticken, mentally challenged, raped and molested children sure as hell didn't asked to be "given life". They, nor do I, not do you, owe anything to anyone who "gave you life".
mjfraser04 1 month ago
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mjfraser04 3 months ago
@mjfraser04 You just gave me somethin to think about...but I would like to say that when God created the world, there wasn't supposed to be any sin in it, but when Satan tempted Eve, that started sin. AND since sinners go to Hell, Jesus gave us a way out so we'd have an eternity of happiness instead of an eternity of torture and torment. I'd say thats worth thanking Him and worshiping Him for.
mpw19962001 3 months ago
@mpw19962001 That has nothing to do with the fact that "God" selfishly created us, just so we can live for eternity...whether it be in heaven or hell. There is so much immorally wrong with the Christian god and the bible. I am glad you have opened your mind enough to at least "...think about" it. I will never tell anyone to think a certain way. All i ask is that people educate themselves on not theist AND atheist point of views (especially regarding religion).
mjfraser04 3 months ago
@mjfraser04 true....but even so dont you want to make sure you end up in heaven and not hell?
mpw19962001 3 months ago
@mpw19962001 What proof is there for either one?
mjfraser04 3 months ago
@mjfraser04 I don't think any actual physical evidence, but if you believe in God, which you so clearly demonstrated, how can you not believe in life after death, ie heaven and hell?
mpw19962001 3 months ago
@mpw19962001 I do not believe in any supernatural god in the sky. And I certainly do not believe in the Christian god. When you read and research both sides of the coin, no rational, moral, or logical thinking person could believe in something where there is absolutely no evidence for and in fact, a mass amount of evidence that the Christian god does not exist. I use to be a devout Christian for 25 years until I took it upon myself to educate myself.
mjfraser04 3 months ago
I love that and Lord I thank you for giving him such strength and your desire for people to be saved....
JesusGodHolySpirit3 3 months ago
It's a good message you have Ray, but try to control your tone of voice. It's a good message, but the experience can be negative for people if you become argumentative and mean in your tone of voice and words. Hang in there though Ray. Keep at it. Thanks for all you do.
RyanAnanymous 4 months ago
No Where living in a fallen creation. And everyone has sinned not just our ancestors where guilty to. And the catholic church ain't christian they follow the pope and other non biblical traditions. Repent and trust in Christ death is coming and so is Gods judgement.
mamainmancj 4 months ago
Hey Cumfart. the catholic church has enough money to feed and clothe every person on earth. What does that say about the catholic church
timh651 4 months ago
both lie
MilagrosChechenka 4 months ago
These people are totally non-sensical!.... They say "good luck" to Ray afterwards, when they dont agree with him?!
marek0086 4 months ago
this is what happens when you ask a christian a question that they cant answer...
"my imaginary friend is going to torture you for eternity unless you believe me!"
makes me sick he stands on a box and spews fairytales as if they're facts.
DemoraX 5 months ago
Answer the lady's fucking question Ray you fraud.
Answer mine; why has god NEVER regrown an amputees limbs?
000phill000 5 months ago
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I was never asked to be born. I had absoloutely zero input on my exsistence. Why do I have to thank...no, worship a diety of anykind that selfishly put me into exsitence, only to be destined to live forever, again without my input, whether it be in heaven or hell? Why? If someone gives you something you never asked for or even wanted, and in some cases has made your life miserable (child deformities, born into poverty, abused, etc)...do you owe that person your life?
mjfraser04 5 months ago
So God punishes us because of what our ancestors did? HOW NICE. Can I punish German kids for what their grandfathers did in WWII?
Casshyr 7 months ago
@Casshyr Its just as much Adam's fault as it is yours?
Domodeath 5 months ago
@Domodeath No, the way the world is today has no bearing on what we do, according to Christianity. Bible said the reasons we have things like malaria, cancer, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanos killing millions is because of Adam's sin, not because of what we have done, but because of 2 people: Adam and Eve. What kind of a teaching is that? It is basically teaching kids that it's ok to punish a person for what their ancestors did. Is that the kind of moral you want your kids to stick to?
Casshyr 5 months ago
@Casshyr Dude, you and us, are the ones repeatedly sinning, what do you exspect GOD to be happy? After all the use of GOD's Name in vain, fornication, adultry, murder, abortion, homosexuality, swearing ect? What kind of a GOD would just set back and not give the world justice?
Domodeath 5 months ago
@Domodeath For a God who supposedly can do anything, he is quite mean if he needs to punish us for being faulty (which is indirectly also his fault because we are his creations, according to Christianity). If he is indeed all powerful, then he can just snap his magic finger and make us all perfect, instead of using hell to punish us. I mean, if I'm God, that's what I would do. Either he is non-existent, or he is not all-powerful + all-loving like you ppl claim. He can't be both.
Casshyr 5 months ago
@Casshyr I never claimed He was all-loving, the problem is that you think people deserve to be perfect however the fact is that no Adamite has ever done anything worth honor apart from The Grace of GOD.
Domodeath 5 months ago
@Domodeath you are missing my main point tho: if God is all powerful like you claim he is, and that he wants us to be good, then why doesn't he just make us good? what's with all the trials? and better yet, why would a loving God (Bible said he is loving btw, cuz without God, there is no love, as said so by the Bible) throw a person in hell? I support punishment for wrongdoers, but eternal punishment? no way. maybe 100 years in hell...but eternally? wtf!
Casshyr 5 months ago
@Casshyr (1) Because our race failed and were wicked and turned against Him and don't want to be good by nature, (2) If you could understand The Holiness, Righteousness and Awesomeness of GOD The Creator of all and the unholiness, wickedness and corruption of humans. Then would not question His actions, admittedly I, as a fallen being struggle with that myself. If a guy punches a another guy his age, that's not as bad as punching a cop, worst then that is punching the president, now imagen......
Domodeath 5 months ago
Now, take some time to think, maybe about five minutes, if you were to insult The Creator, The One who gave you life, who is perfect and enthroned in holiness and majesty, we as people punish others within time, we see them committed against man, who is within time, but GOD is eternal and so the punishment and wrath of GOD is also eternal.
Domodeath 5 months ago
@Domodeath I get what you are saying. But personally, IF I am God (hypothetically of course), I would not punish any1 eternally. If someone insults me, I would punish that person only for as long as that person has lived (ex. 85 years). I would not send any1 to eternal damnation. I guess that makes me more loving than God then, huh?
Casshyr 5 months ago
@Casshyr No, that makes you more unjust then GOD and less Holy.
Domodeath 5 months ago
@Casshyr God is eternal; therefore, there is an eternal punishment.
TheSpartanMichael 3 months ago
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@Casshyr "So God punishes us because of what our ancestors did? HOW NICE. Can I punish German kids for what their grandfathers did in WWII?"
No, don't be petty like the God of the bible was. Try to be better than him/it.
vmelkon 4 months ago
i don't like the way her evangelizes , its intimidating and i cud actually lead people away from christ instead of drawing them to him. He doesn't engage people, he talks at people instead of having understanding and compassion conversation
Niyabrock1 7 months ago
"God is not the cause of suffering. Man's sin brought the consequences of the fall." So it's our fault that we are not perfect and he should punish us for his failure? Haha you christians say the darnest things.
D3admaus 9 months ago
Press 1 for the answe, oh sorry , you can't hear it coz of a stupie bike passing by...!
afgrocks123 9 months ago
right when he was gonna say the answer to THE question. A bike passed by and i couldn't hear shit -,- 0:51
afgrocks123 9 months ago
So how did he die?
afgrocks123 9 months ago
So basically what he's saying is if the world would turn from sin and no one sinned ever again, there would be no floods, earthquakes, cancer, aids ect....total and complete bullshit....
TheJdecka 10 months ago
he is answering the question throughout... the fall is the answer!
GoldenbanjoDJ 10 months ago
why the fuck did god even create the forbidden fruit in the first place?
audveltadmuna 11 months ago
@audveltadmuna To grant us the choice follow Him or not to have free will
gweems828 10 months ago
@gweems828 but god already knew it was going to happen...
audveltadmuna 10 months ago
@audveltadmuna Yes He did. And as a result He is able to display attributes of Himself that we would other wise not be able to see. Such as grace, mercy, justice, wrath, and forgiveness.
gweems828 10 months ago
She talked about Jesus on the cross but he wouldn't admit that she already knows it- he obviously wasn't mentioning this for her- but for everyone around.
feee99 11 months ago
if people suffer then why does ray comfert say gods all loveing
bellyzbad 1 year ago
this is so stupid
Mirrodin82 1 year ago
Bottom line all the preset suffering we see in the world: starvation, natural disasters, diseases, disabilities etc etc all have this is common --- they are a form of punishment handed out by God and imposed after the sentence was handed down by him on Judgement Day when he faced the person at their death.
ZZCAT100 1 year ago
So although in your eyes from what you have seen that this has done so far in their life may appear innocent -- (person suffering has done no wrong ).. you have not seen what they did in their past life - only God has seen what they did wrong on their past life!!! So for example - if some drunk does a hit and run and leaves someone on a wheelchair when they die at judment day God may decide to make him disabled on his next life as a penalty...
ZZCAT100 1 year ago
Disability is one form of suffering of course ..and so too is starvation, illnesses, uglyness, etc etc
To really understand why this preset suffering exists one must understand reincarnation and the fact that if God created you in the past life he then also create you in the next life. Suffering is a punishment from God. And God can impose that punishment as a reincarnation effect after he has judged you on your death.
ZZCAT100 1 year ago
@ZZCAT100 Reincarnation is a theory...It does not exist...
loveIsraelnow 1 year ago
@loveIsraelnow LOL you accept that it is a theory but then you dismiss is as nonexistent?
ashyboy1324 10 months ago
@loveIsraelnow a theory is something that might be true, if you know it's not true then it's not a theory
audveltadmuna 10 months ago
@loveIsraelnow How do you know reincarnation doesn't exist?
If it's theory then the theory exists (cf. the 22 cases of Ian Stevenson M. D. for instance). Suffering based on a redistributive psychology may be the best "theory" for suffering yet.
Phavonic 10 months ago
Her main question boils down to: why is there a form of preset suffering - upon a person when they have not "DONE" anything wrong in my eyes or in their life so far ....they are in my eyes innocent.
ZZCAT100 1 year ago
Here is the answer to her question. We as a people don't follow God's laws. He said not to eat pork, we eat pork. God said to rest on the Sabbath day, Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. We don't rest. God said to keep his feast, HIS! We don't keep them.
We don't obey God and you ask why these things happen to the human race? God said if you did not obey him you would be cursed up to 4 generations in your family. NOW YOU KNOW! And don't come back and say we are not under the law but grace. NOT!
nations3 1 year ago
Ray, quite yelling. It doesn't "comfort" people. What you're saying sounds logical, but you're not preaching Paul. Paul had a DIFFERENT gospel (He called it "MY gospel") than Jesus that was given to him by Jesus. Gal 1:11-17a
@ 5:25, Ray quotes 1 Cor 6:11 "No thief, liar, blasphemer, etc, will inherit the kingdom" She says, "But He's all forgiving", he says " No He's not". WRONG!
THE VERY NEXT VERSE, 1 Cor 6:12 says, "& such were some of u, but you WERE WASHED & CLEANSED"! PAST TENSE!
=:-)
davidbrucemusicvideo 1 year ago
@davidbrucemusicvideo ...NO WHERE in the Bible does it say that God is "ALL" Forgiving. God is forgiving to tyhose who come to REPENTANCE. God DOES NOT forgive the unrepentant sinner.
bornagain001 1 year ago
@bornagain001
Calm down. You're wrong. :-)
2 Cor 5:19
that God was reconciling THE WORLD to Himself in Christ, NOT counting men's sins against them.
1 John 2: 1-2
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for OUR SINS, & NOT ONLY FOR OURS but also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.
Yay! Your Daddy in heaven is actually good. :-)
davidbrucemusicvideo 1 year ago
Blah blah blah anyone who refutes the Zeitgeist Movement does not know what to refute.
SlimeTron5000 1 year ago
Love how it cuts away every time he cannot come up with a good excuse for 'god'
ThatGassettGuy 1 year ago
The righteous and the innocent children are taken away, so they can be spared from evil. Us Christians must have hope for tomorrow; with faith, that no matter what happens....Even if the stars fall and the sun gets darkened, His love will still be there. Have faith in the Redeemer, for those of us who sleep, will soon be awakened.
uziel187 1 year ago
@uziel187 God Bless you. Our Lord is truly beautiful.
KseniaDS 1 year ago
SAD!!! That lady just didn't get it. She would rather try to bribe a just and Holy God on judgement day than trust in his sacrifice for sin.
Dejavu12321 1 year ago
See the way he asked her to stand back so he can shout at her, what a self righteous fucking prick.
OpeningSalvoe 1 year ago
@OpeningSalvoe He shouts cause he doesn't have a microphone, fool.
Evsta101 1 year ago
@Evsta101 I know he doesn't have a microphone you idiot, that's my point, he could've had one, he's using it as an excuse to shout at people.
OpeningSalvoe 1 year ago
@OpeningSalvoe Maybe he wants to do it in a classic Biblical style - using his own volume to attract peoples attention.
And maybe he's shouting cause he's stationed beside a main road, duh. Might not seem smart but, a lot of folk pass there by the looks of things.
Evsta101 1 year ago
@Evsta101 All the more reason for him to have a Mike if he's next to a road isn't it duh, and yeah, classical biblical style=shouting at people.
OpeningSalvoe 1 year ago
@OpeningSalvoe To be honest, I'd much prefer not to use a mic when street preaching even if beside a main road. And it may only amplify the traffic too. And with amplification, he may not be able to hear the other person trying to make a point while he speaks.
Classical Biblical style is what Jesus did, gathered a crowd and spoke. Thousands would gather so, he'd shout.
With street Evangelising, you ask people to step forward and ask them questions and shout for all to hear.
Same prinicple.
Evsta101 1 year ago
@Evsta101 Yes it's called being a loud mouth, self righteous bible thumping thug.
OpeningSalvoe 1 year ago
@OpeningSalvoe No, it's being a preacher.
Politicans do it. They go out travelling across the country and find a spot, stand up and shout to the people that if they "vote for this party" they'll get this, that and the next thing.
Preachers get up and shout to the people that if they believe and put all faith in God, and are born again in Jesus they'll have eternal life. I'm not planning on voting as most politicans are corrupt, but if I was asked to vote on a born again poll, I'd check yes.
Evsta101 1 year ago
@Evsta101 Exactly, like I said, bible thumping thugs, the lot of them. Believe what I tell you or you'll burn in hell for all eternity.
OpeningSalvoe 1 year ago
i like to stand on street corners and piss people off by telling them that a invisible man is going to send them to be anally raped. Then i dont answer their question, its great fun and i love doing it. then i go home and play with my prostate, and fondle children.
joekawi 1 year ago
in my experience, 99% of ppl who say they are catholic do not know one thing about Jesus Christ. hence the reason they vote for anti-chirst candidates like obama. (notice, i am not calling obama the anti-christ, im saying he is an anti-christ. huge difference)
5506 1 year ago
@5506 i hope that fellow americans are not electing their canditates, just because they have the same religious views.
outlawsofthemarsh 1 year ago
@outlawsofthemarsh i vote for ppl who have the same world view as me. i agree with them on the issues, for the most part. some, probably most, of them have the same faith as i do.
5506 1 year ago
@logoRH So, honestly you want your creator take away your will and of every human to do after his own will, be it good or bad? Come on, we are responsible for what is happening, not God.. in His GRACE we are no robots, but we are made in His own image.
flanger7777 1 year ago
@flanger7777 So, why are we being punished for not acting like robots, then?
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Because we are a fallen sinful race of creatures ever since our forefather disobeyed the first time. But there is hope, in Christ Jesus. His perfectness and pureness is covering those before God's Throne, who follow Him. :) It's true.
flanger7777 1 year ago
@flanger7777 You didn't answer my question: Why are we being punished for acting within the nature that God allows us to have?
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Give it, these kinds of people can not be reasoned with. you ask a simple question and they give you a bunch of apologetic crap that doesn't answer anything. if god is the creator of us (humans) and we are flawed wouldn't that reflect badly on his "creating" skills?
joekawi 1 year ago
@joekawi No, our flaws were created through our (OUR) own reasoning and disobedience. Not God's bad handy work.
Our flaws came to be when Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden, not when they were created.
Evsta101 1 year ago
@Evsta101 you believe in a talking snake, a man created form dirt and a rib women. i think im done hear
*backs away slowly*
joekawi 1 year ago
This lady is open to listen, but to basically yell at her, she feels on the spot and will put her in a defensive mode. I think if he would just talk to her one on one it would've been better. I hope a seed was planted though, and she went back home and opened her bible.
jamgrl2 1 year ago
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It seems to me that Ray has a screaming fit ;-).
(a clear evidence that he has no real argument to convince...)
naturemath 1 year ago
Wow, I did not know how blind some believers are. This lady has obviously not read the Bible due to her extreme lack of understanding of the most basic scriptures. Ray tells nothing but the truth of God's living word, and these women are completely ignorant to him, but they themselves are disagreeing with the Holy Bible, not Ray.
adam2O 1 year ago
@adam2O Christianity a relgion based on fear , If a person living in the jungle who has never heard of god but looks after his family and friends helps the needy and never does anyone any harm in his life is dammed to hell, because he is not part of your christian club. See the flaw in your argument. surely its more noble to be kind to your fellow man without expecting a reward for it. Religion was created by man to control the ignorant masses, research how many times the bible was rewritten.
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LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@LogicThruCommonSense I notice in your comments, that you ignored 90% of my points. where in the bible does it say , that god has speical provisions for people that live in the jungle that have never heard of him. Their athiests "non believers"and are off to hell acording to your bible. Stop assuming things and go research them. The fear off God has been used to extract money and control the ignorant since the first cave man looked at the sun . Drop it and enjoy the rest of your life. good lad
martinbyrne68 1 year ago
@martinbyrne68 "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made,so that men are without excuse."
Even those in the Jungle believe there is a God using there common sense. What Indian or native have you seen that does not believe.Furthermore,God is a fair and Just God.Thats why I said we don't have to worry about them,because God is not cruel. He won't send them to hell unfairly.
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@LogicThruCommonSense Tens of thousands of people from uncontacted tribes have been discovered up to last year in Brazil ,ALSO IN 2008 in Boliva, Peru, even in India and Australaisa,Not one of these people would have heard of christianty. So its OK from them not to belive in God according to you because of their ignorance about him, seems like your making this up as you go along. What about Muslims ,are they all going to hell afterall they are aware of Christianity but choose to worship Allah?
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LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@martinbyrne68 Futhermore, your putting words in my mouth. I never said that you have to be aware of Christianity to be saved.
I don't want to spam YouTube. So please lets not start a big debate. If you want to, please message me.
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@martinbyrne68 didn't make up anything. I know that God judges fairly. And God's word shows that he wants all of us to be with him. By that knowledge I can summarize that he has provisions from them. Whether he will will judge them by there own righteousness(because they have a conscience of whats right or wrong) I don't know. All i have said is that it is clear that they believe in God. And nothing else. I don't know how God will deal with them. I just know they will not be judge unfairly.
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
This is not a perfect world. After what Adam did, sin entered the world. We are none of us innocent, even on the day of our birth. We are born into sin. That's why there is such imperfection such as disabilities, birth defects, etc. God created a perfect world, but once sin entered, it is no longer perfect. So, we are left to deal with very hard questions like this woman answered. The perfection is in the life to come, where nobody has to suffer any longer.
MsAmericanChristian 1 year ago
@MsAmericanChristian Your an innocent child. I imagine your the type of person that has never questioned anything in her life, and belives everything her pastor, congressman ect tells her. please open your mind ,ask what does your church do with all the money your congregation gives it, Why did you really go to war in Iraq, why did your counrty demand the death of the "Lockerbee bomber" and not comment on the captain of the us ship that shot down the Iranian passinger plane the same year. ASK
martinbyrne68 1 year ago
@martinbyrne68 Where on earth are you coming from? What do you know about me? Who are you listening to? If you only listen to non-believers, you are not open about anything. You don't even know what church I go to or even if I do go to church....nothing. No substance to your post at all....just a bunch of junk. Maybe you need to do a little research, or better yet, just ask a few questions yourself, before you make a string of accusations about somebody that you do not even know.
MsAmericanChristian 1 year ago
I do have sympathy for this lady and for her kids, but she has failed to provide evidence for her personal belief that her kids are "innocent."
Each one of us causes our own suffering through our own selfish desires and unskillful actions.
Purushadasa 1 year ago
@Purushadasa So, the kids caused themselves to starve to death?
Or are you being willfully dense?
whateverman666 1 year ago
Specifically, what kids are you referring to?
Purushadasa 1 year ago
What a dick! He completely avoids her question, because he can't answer it, and then turns around and tries to tell her she's going to hell. The love of jesus strikes again. Ugh! Someone needs to tell him that on judgement day, god is the one who should have to answer, if he's the one who made us knowing that we would "sin" and then condemns us to eternal torture for "sinning".
eyesofblue217 1 year ago
@eyesofblue217
Yes, God created man knowing that we would sin. But he created us with free will. If he hadn't we would be a bunch of mindless robots.Not, Humans. Is love really love if it's forced? But God doesn't condemn us to eternal torture, he made away for us to receive eternal salvation through his son Jesus.
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@LogicThruCommonSense
I love this one. Free will = choice. Here are your choices: Believe in god (even though he's invisible and only bothers to keep his promises some of the time when he feels like it), or go to hell. Do it his way, or else. But you get to CHOOSE. Just choose what he wants you to choose. Or else. Until that day when every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. On that day we'll all be mindless robots with no choice. I hope one day your user name will ring true for your sake
eyesofblue217 1 year ago
@eyesofblue217
God doesn't condemn you because you don't believe in him. You go to hell because your a sinner, and you exercise evil deeds. But through faith in Jesus you are made righteous in his eyes. God fulfills ALL of his promises not some. And yes you get to choose. Either do evil and get punished for it, or do what is right and get rewarded. This is the way it works in real life but nobody seems to be frustrated at it. If your mom offers you fun or torture, do you choose torture?
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@LogicThruCommonSense I'm pretty sure the point is...why would your mom offer you torture?
eyesofblue217 1 year ago
@eyesofblue217 I was Just giving an analogy. But lets just say you did something really bad. And your mom is willing to forgive you if you let her. If you accept her forgiveness she will take you to your most favorite place to visit. If you don't she'll spank you for what you did and permanently take away something you like? Cell phone, credit card etc. Wouldn't you accept the forgiveness and the gift?
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@LogicThruCommonSense I would hope that my mom would forgive me whether I "let her" or not. And should she have to bribe me with prizes so that I want forgiveness? And spanking vs. eternal burning and torment? Doesn't really compare. And eternal punishment for even one finite sin. So your analogy should be more like: say you do something bad, and your mom sets your room on fire and locks you in there b/c you won't ask for forgiveness or "receive" it when it's offered.
eyesofblue217 1 year ago
@eyesofblue217 Again, remember I said I was giving an analogy. And the one I was giving was symbolic.The permanent punishment, taking away the phone, would be the one you compare to eternity. Again, but it was symbolic. But of course you can't compare this to eternity because it's lesser in degree .But if you want a better one here it comes. I'll end this conversation with this final note.
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@eyesofblue217
In court there are finite punishments, and infinite punishments. If your crimes are severe your punishment is infinite. I.e death, life in prison. In the same way your crimes against God are severe and have an infinite consequence. The judge won't just forgive you. And God won't jut won't let you go. However through faith in Jesus, your made clean, righteous. So please repent and put your faith in Jesus. It's been a pleasure talking man. I don't want to argue anymore. Bye
LogicThruCommonSense 1 year ago
@LogicThruCommonSense I acknowledge your desire not to argue, so this is for anyone else who might be reading, in hopes that it helps them think. The invisible god, who set his "children" up for failure and then punished them when they failed is not a god I deem worthy of my faith, nor do I feel any need to repent to him for any "crimes" (esp. since he doesn't exist). His inaction does not earn my fear or devotion or belief.
eyesofblue217 1 year ago
I'd also like to mention that the ten commandments also tell you to not have milk while eating goats.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
Whats with the screaming? Also, the test the IQ thing is stupid. IQ is based on pattern.
FlyingSpahghettiMan 1 year ago
Holy cow ray i would have flew off the handle at that women yo have incredible patience
mpar777 1 year ago
ray comfort has a whole heart for Jesus, it is a mazing how he can continue in the face of so much opposition
ArchangelCLK 1 year ago
Every time I watch Ray Comfort, the more I realize how ridiculous Christianity is.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140
whats ridiculous about Christianity?
Romans10Thirteen 1 year ago
@Romans10Thirteen What's NOT ridiuclous about it?
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
Ray is as slippery as they come. I would find it easier to believe he was an agent of satan then an agent of god. Ray's contention that children suffer and starve and die of horrible diseases because Adam ate the fruit of a tree is absurd. Collective guild is immorral, sick and disgusting.
How much money is ray make of his various religious enterprises?
bigpchamber 1 year ago
Great thanks for sharing this video. Ray always shares the Gospel in the proper way---points to the Law WHY we are guilty THEN brings it to the Cross....without the law and seeing what we broken it makes no sense why Jesus went to the Cross because it is foolish...."For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
@Bearkiller777 Hey, uh, newsflash: It STILL doesn't make sense why Jesus was on the cross, or why anybody deserves to be TORTURED FOREVER!
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Jesus died on a Cross for a simple reason: The Gospel the good news of Jesus - God came down to earth in the form of a Human died for your sins but you have to A) Repent and B) Trust in Jesus that He died for your sins........what you don't understand is the fact that under the law you are guilty of Breaking God's Commandments and because of that you are Guilty and God MUST punish Sin. if you were standing before a Judge and said to the judge "I'm a good person..." ...
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
The Judge would tell you just because your a good person doesn't mean the good can outweigh the bad...think of a Criminal in a courtroom who's guilty of horrendous crimes such as Rape, Murder, ect....if the criminal said to the judge well judge I think your a good honest fair loving Judge and because of that can't you forgive me? BUT because the Judge is Love, Fair and Just He MUST Punish you for your Crimes! if not He would not be Just or Fair!
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
if you are still confused send me a PM this 500 character limit imposed I can't fit much . i probably won't have time to go back to the comments to reply so just send a PM next time thanks.
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
@Bearkiller777 Go Bearkiller777 wisely spoken!
carolinesalv 1 year ago
@Bearkiller777 Why do you keep going on this "judge" spiel? If a judge said "I'm going to let you go because somebody else offered to die in your place!" would you think he's just, or would you think he's a complete lunatic? God's NOT punishing certain people for their sins, and punishing others (Namely, Jesus) for something they DIDN'T do! In what way is that even REMOTELY just?
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140
"God's NOT punishing certain people for their sins, and punishing others (Namely, Jesus) for something they DIDN'T do! In what way is that even REMOTELY just?"
Thats the Gospel (good news) You broke Gods Law (Ten Commandments) & Jesus (God Himself) paid your fine. Some random person didnt pay your fine but God himself. Thats not lunacy thats true love. Sin is so disgusting to God he cant just forgive it, Jesus had to suffer & die to take your punishment for the crimes.
Romans10Thirteen 1 year ago
@Romans10Thirteen Yes he CAN just forgive it! He's GOD!
Seriously, what the hell is the point of punishment?
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140
No He just cant forgive it no strings attached. Try that in civil court, if you were guilty of breaking the law and the judge told you it was 50 yrs in prison or a $50,000 fine.
Except you dont have any money just as justice was going to take its course someone you dont even know steps into the courtroom & pays your fine. Now the judge can legally let you go because the fine has been paid for. Thats what Jesus did. We broke Gods Law & Jesus paid our fine.
Romans10Thirteen 1 year ago
@Romans10Thirteen YES HE CAN FORGIVE!!! HE'S GOD! WHAT PART OF THAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?! We don't punish innocent people for the crimes of the guilty! We don't allow murderers to go because somebody offers to die for them! You would think that was absurd, so why do you think it's perfectly right and just if God does it? "Paid our fine." Stop trying to guilt trip people.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140
guilt trip people? most people think since they havent killed anyone thier good people. According to Gods Word, if you hate someone without cause God sees that as murder And the Bible says that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You have a conscience, you know right from wrong. With a tender conscience ask yourself if you have broken any of Gods Commandments.
Romans10Thirteen 1 year ago
@Romans10Thirteen Well, God would be WRONG then! He would also be wrong to torture people forever simply for a LIE! If God said it was a sin to not murder a baby, would you be guilty? I don't think so!
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
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"He would also be wrong to torture people forever simply for a LIE!"simply for a lie? what if I told a lie that cost someone their life. The bottom line is Im guilty of breaking Gods Law & without Jesus God would give me justice without mercy. God dosent owe me nothing but wrath but he loves me so much he gave his Son as a ransom for my sins. John 3:16
Romans10Thirteen 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Over here now, I see. Again I ask you to show where God tortures people... EVER! C'mon, you make the claim, back it up.
thatguynameddaveshow 1 year ago
@thatguynameddaveshow Hitler didn't kill anybody! He signed papers which authorized other people to kill! So, what does everybody think Hitler is so bad?
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 What is your preoccupation with Hitler? What does that have to do with your claim that God tortures people? Just try and focus on the simple request of showing me, from the Bible, where God tortures or will torture anybody in hell, as you claim. Otherwise, shut up.
thatguynameddaveshow 1 year ago
@thatguynameddaveshow If someboy is guilty of murder because they kill by proxy, then God is guilty of torture for allowing it to happen despite having the power to stop it.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 One word: sovereign. God is Sovereign.
If you want to accuse God of being a murderer and a torturer, go right ahead. He is still the King and Judge, you will have to account for all your words, deeds, and thoughts to Him on Judgment Day. Be sure to speak loud when you accuse Him of these things so that even the devil can hear you, I am sure he will get a laugh out of it since he has been trying to do that from the beginning, without success.
It is awful hot in hell.
thatguynameddaveshow 1 year ago
@thatguynameddaveshow Everytime anybody tried to in the past, they got burned at the stake. Something Christianity would no doubt continue if they had the political power. Fear of punishment is all you have. Truth does not need to rely on fear.
If your God exists, he's a power hunger, insecure, selfish, vain, egotistical, sadistic, unmerciful, unjust malevolent demon who deserves no worship, and is nothing more than a pimple of the universes ass.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 You do not know God, you have made up one in your mind and now you rail against that false god. Let's stick to reality.
Fear is not a bad thing, "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom." I do not fear God as you do, He has redeemed me. You, however, face His full wrath if you do not repent and trust in Jesus to save you. This goes for everyone.
Good bye to you, you are a dead man speaking nothing but death.
Dead.
Dead.
Dead.
thatguynameddaveshow 1 year ago
@thatguynameddaveshow You are in denial! "OH, NO! I DON'T WANT TO STOP EXISTING WHEN I DIE! TELL ME THAT I'M GUARANTEED TO LIVE FOREVER AFTER I DIE! LIE TO ME! LIE TO ME! LIE TO ME, DAMNIT!" Learn to face reality and death like an adult!
The God I have described is the very one in the bible! I spent years trying to deny to reality as well, but in the end, I realized that Yahweh has no redeeming qualities. He's a bully, a sadist and a rapist.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Hi. I'm interested in your assertion that God is a rapist; perhaps you'd like to look at my series Rape in the Bible. I have searched long and hard and not found any supporting evidence that God has ever raped anyone.
davemakesawave 1 year ago
@davemakesawave You're the ones who always claim that God has to give us free will, or else it would be rape! How is "Love me, or burn in hell!" NOT rape?
Also, God allowed his men to rape women in the bible, Specifically in Numbers 31:17-18: The verse that killed my Christianity on April 28, 2007... The beginning of the happiest 2 months of my life.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 I don't know where you have quoted from but it doesn't seem to be about rape does it? Remember, God has provided a way out; if you don't want God in your life then you don't want to be with him in eternity. Regarding the passage you refer to above; i cover this on my channel. You'll also find a download on my channel page so that you can read it and see the truth. A more detailed download is being prepared and i cover all that you could copy and paste on the subject.
davemakesawave 1 year ago
@davemakesawave "Keep the young virgins alive for yourself". As if they're going to want to fuck someone who killing their friends and family and humiliated them by giving them a hymen inspection. As soon as I read those words, my suspicions were confirmed: It was all a lie.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Incorrect.
davemakesawave 1 year ago
@davemakesawave No, it isn't. You just don't want to accept that it's all been a lie and that you don't have all the answers.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 I know that I don't have all the answers, just as no one does, but the Bible has more than all the answers we need. Oh dear, that is not the same as having all the answers we want is it?
davemakesawave 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Oh yeah, and if this is the case then why hasn't all the rapes carried out by non-believers or atheists killed atheism for you? The fact is that it is our sinful nature that causes us to do wrong, not the will of God or some other trumped up get out concept. Jesus said our hearts are evil and that it is out of the overflow of our hearts that we comit crime against God and each other, which includes rape. Look up Deuteronomy 22 vs 25-26
davemakesawave 1 year ago
@davemakesawave Funny, atheists tend to be the group that's the least predisposed to crime.
These were supposed to be people who SAW GOD DIRECTLY! This was MOSES who allowed his men to rape women, and God said absolutely nothing! This was MOSES for God's sake! God found him worthy to LEAD HIS PEOPLE, and if THIS is how God's representative on earth behaves, that says something! Namely, that this ISN'T divine, infinite wisdom, but the actions of cruel, barbaric, superstitious men!
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 ha ha ha, what a load of bunkum. Well its up to you, the truth can be downloaded from my channel or you can avoid it and remain in your current delusion if you want.
davemakesawave 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 Don't bother my friend: and now you see in action the self imposed worthlessness of some humans on this tiny planet. They need it like an opium, lest they're lives are without ultimate meaning, this great nameless mirror called "God", a thing that loves all that they love and abhor all that they abhor. They act good for the reward or out of great fear for the infinite, either way you see the obvious corruption of these so called virtuous men. Never apologize for your humanity
MasterHex 1 year ago
@MasterHex They complain to us about living for the moment, but it's precisely a moment of hopeful destruction, where every single thing in this world is stripped to such a degree and judged, that they live for. To such a degree that some feel they are even entitled to hasten the destruction of this world, falling down into worship upon the wastelands even if they were to survive out of that single blinded hope.
MasterHex 1 year ago
Ah yes this great "Devil!" He's everywhere to you isn't he? Strange, it's fear of his example that God has so many followers, perhaps the very best tool of God's own creation wouldn't you agree? A real partner in cosmic crime.
To question is to possess the mouth of the Devil.
To speak out against the church is to have the Devil in you.
I suppose I should worry of vomiting green slime right? What a comedy indeed, this anti thesis called the Devil; the second side of the very same coin.
MasterHex 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 he was behind it all
mpar777 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140
I wasnt done Utube only lets U write so much --
So now God Commands men everywhere to repent & put their trust in Jesus because he has appointed a day in which he'll judge the world in righteousness. You need to humble yourself(turn from pride), repent(turn from sin) & put your trust in Christ. Trust him like you would a Dr. in surgery or like youd trust a parachute if you knew you had to jump off an airplane.
Romans10Thirteen 1 year ago
@Romans10Thirteen You haven't established that I there's a law to break or a God to judge me.
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 then you don't understand the Gospel I Pray God open your eyes and scales on your eyes blinding you from seeing the Gospel. the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
@Bearkiller777 The idea that a perfect God needs to create anything, and then created something that is capable of falling and then punishing that creation for being the very way he created it, and then sacrificing himself to himself to change a rule he made himself is absurd!
JonathanClement140 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 no that's incorrect that's not the Gospel. I'm going to bed if you really want to know the Gospel read it for yourself in the Bible and stop making assumptions or send me a PM I'd be glad to point you in the right direction a box with 500 characters max simply isn't enough to do that right now though...God Bless
Bearkiller777 1 year ago
@JonathanClement140 By your own confession, you are going to hell when you die. Repent now before it is too late!
thatguynameddaveshow 1 year ago