Ferguson on China: GDP, Nationalism, and the Internet

[happinesson]

Good insights about China!economic Problems and challenges binds them more together..good attitude..

[Cyrus255]

China has no "New Course" policy yet, but if China does attempt to target areas in which the USA traditionally held supremacy (to challenge American air superiority for example), then perhaps a WW3 may not be too far off.

China wrote the Art of War, literally, so they know not to do this. China will continue their slow economic domination. China knows the best policy is pretending to be communist and doing capitalism. The worst policy is the USA's: pretend to be capitalist but do communism.

[Cyrus255]

A very keen analogy. But off on a few points. The Kaiserreich was a monarchy and nationalism was less contradictory in nature (communist nationalism in a capitalist china is plentiful but ironic in nature).

A difference, however was that they were rapidly building their armed forces at a rate that alarmed Britain. China has yet to do this. They have increased military spending at record levels and if they continue the USA may start to be alarmed but the US is broke so can't do sh*t.

[momoisdrug]

An interesting theory.

[stephentsang2000]

Chinese doesn't intend to step over America. Chinese loves America and bought more American-brand cars than anywhere in the world. Chinese enemy is the Japanese, who didn't apologize to any countries at all for their WWII crimes. Fucking Jap government even modify their history books to cover up their stinky and nasty crimes in the war.

[overcastingasshole]

@stephentsang2000 Japanese people today are good people. Same as Americans. And I can say this being Chinese. I just hope leaders from both sides don't fuck it up for the common people and put us in ridiculous situations like another World War where young men are sent literally to die because leaders up top can't sort their shit. If war breaks out, we should send the guys up top to war and let them die over their own beef. Fuck that after all the pain and suffering. NEVER AGAIN

[stephentsang2000]

@overcastingasshole

It was the fucking Japs who started it, and it's the fucking Japs who cover up their fucking history in their educational system, and if war is inevitable, then so be it~ These fucking Japs need to be taught a lesson for fucking up with China.

[rowu8888]

actually he was comparing China with Germany during WWI (one hundred years ago- right?) which was Kaiser's Germany, not the nazis~ and he was just drawing an analogy between Britain's relationship with Germany in terms of how they exchanged culturally and economically. He wasn't really saying China IS WWI Germany.

[kynismos]

Do not expect the average dumbfuck youtube user to understand his Imperial Britain-German Kaierreich analogy.

[way2tehdawn]

@kynismos Ok.

[petersz98]

@Oceandeep8

Idiot! He compared China to the Kaiser's Germany not Nazi Germany! The Kaiser ruled Germany up until 1918 it was not a Nazi state then.

[uglybetties]

lol. This guy is full of shit. If there's a country resembling Nazi Germany the time during WW2, that would be the United States.

[RedTyphoon1]

i@uglybetties You are a dumbass. Hes comparing China to Imperial Germany not Nazi Germany read a textbook bitch.

[FyzikalKemizt]

full of bullshit



[rainzoro]

My Chinese fellow says nationalism in China is created rather artificially by stereotypical education.

[FCScorpio79]

There's shrill nationalism almost everywhere. What's more significant is the ability of an element within that nation to take control of government and then project that nationalism outside its own borders. America has been doing this for 80 years, and Britain before America. Iran would do it if it could and China can, but so far, it has not. Interesting times ahead...

[shootthedevil]

Such a bullshit analogy to compare China and Nazi Germany. Nationalism = Patriotism. American is more Nationalistic than anyone, hell American put people into camp for the sake of national security. People are openly racist against Asian and Chinese in particular. LOL. This white man is an ass-speaker.

[mavinga]

@shootthedevil he did not say Nazi Germany, he said Germany and he did not compare the two he compared the relation btw Germany and Britain of 100 yrs ago (1910) to that of China and America today. If you read history you will see that Britain and Germany was on a collision course, analyst knew that Germany and Britain were going to go to war way beforethe rise of Nazi party, Germany was growing fast and Britain stood in the way of that growth...i.e. China and America...

[lagrangewei]

@mavinga : Germany was growing fast and Britain stood in the way of that growth...i.e. China and America...]]

as we can see today, Germany's economy is far larger then Britain today. All the Britian had done was to throw it's empire down the drain. if US fight China, it too will lose it's empire and will never recover from it. For if China does has the means to become stronger than US, confrontation would still not prevent it. it is a pointless struggle.

[TaqiyyaExposer]

@lagrangewei

LOL, don't get your hopes up...

[shootthedevil]

These Westerner thinks their ideas are so great the Chinese would follow them even if it meanst the death of the Chinese nation. Hah...Never listen to a white man's speak, but watch his actions. Most Western say one thing and do another or do one thing and say the opposite. So Freedom, Democrazy, Open Society, NED all have such beautiful terms, but in reality, it just mean chaos = cheap company = Western takeover.

[bushangels]

When Chinese ppl are united, the west is afraid...It doesn't matter if China is a communism or capitalism country. To understand the legitimacy of Chinese government, you need to read more Chinese history.

[Phead128]

@bushangels.

Agreed. Let's hope China doesn't do anything foolish. We should never follow the example of Western imperialism. We should innovate and improve self-defense so that we can be strong to defend ourselves. Chinese people are peaceful people.

[hegemonymony]

So, America... do you want to hand over economic hegemonymony to the fascist Chinese?

[guestz001]

In this world, Anglo bullshit theatre is always in surplus.

[bushangels]

@guestz001 , can't agree more...

[m0rttal]

Long Live the Motherland!  die White Western Imperialist.

[BalkanibalX]

As long as you don't make the mistakes of the West and try to be the new Imperial power

[Jiucieu]

love germany, nazi uniforms are so kewl =)

[jaqael]

To cap this off, " semi educated, biased cattle that only repeats and doesn't comprehend" smacks of the insecurity you yourself hold about your own narrow minded beliefs, set apart from research and academic study, mired in the belief that you live in some Matrix world.

There are thousands upon thousands of conspiracy theories out there, each one relying on a suspension of belief and forms of irrationality that would leave 18th century philosophers balking.

Wake up my friend, wake up.

[Inupiatun]

The truth is out there... There is no one out to get you! :)

[jaqael]

Let me also add that I understand well enough the monetary system, inflation, debt issuance and money creation. I understand where they come from and how they arrived in the forms they are today.

As for it's impact on humanity, specifically if you look at the western liberal democrocies who in your mind is domineerd by evil banking familes, I see among other things, huge economic growth, distributed amongst the poor in ways which had never before been seen since before financial innovation.

[prosvjeta]

'...I understand well enough the monetary system, inflation, debt issuance and money creation. I understand where they come from and how they arrived in the forms they are today...'

idiots are often very self confident.

[jaqael]

I find it hilarious how just because you believe in a conspiricy theory, you consider yourself set apart and "in the know" while the rest of the worlds academics and intellectuals go ignorant of the MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

Conspiricy theories are for the dumb, it's fact. A little knowlege is a dangerous thing, and if anything the age of information has done badly it's to give impressionable ignorants like you the ability to swallow whole laughable theories, based on very little common sense.

[prosvjeta]

2:33

as a historian neill should know that history is a lie that was agreed upon. that's way he should be more careful when making such comparisons, especially if you consider that germany wasn't the cause of WW1.

those who control and have been controling this monetary system (british oligarchy and their bankers) by the end of 19-th century prepared the stage for WW1 in order to stop the industrialization of germany, USA etc. which were gaining independence from british free trade colonialism

[prosvjeta]

watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q

[prosvjeta]

watch

'1932, A True History of the United States'

[jaqael]

Oh my god Prosvjeta, there's narrow minded irrational conspiracy theorists then there's that laughable rubbish you just posted.

History isn't a lie that's agreed upon because Historians do not just consult this apparent one "lie" theory, they analyse sources that come from every side and every source, which have very different opinions.

I won't even begin to point out what's wrong with what you said about British oligarchs and world war 1, Santa Claus is real too right?

[prosvjeta]

stick your sarcasm up your careless ass and focus on real issues like studying how this monetary system works and what kind of impact has it on humanity. study what money is what interests do, who and how controls the issuance of money, how is it possible that entire nation owns money to a group of banking families, why depressions (big resets) occur every 20-40 years...

when you're finished then maybe you won't be semi educated, biased cattle that only repeats and doesn't comprehend.

[imangrynow]

There's an argument that says that WW1 was unneccessary (as Ferguson does) but I don't think you can claim the British caused it.

[prosvjeta]

it's about protectionism vs. free trade.

free trade (liberalism), is nothing but colonialist mercantilism. it's the british export to the humanity. by the end of 20-the century many of the developing contries started switching to the american school of economics (protectionism) making the british empire and its control of trade on sea obsolete. british oligarchy (bankers and nobility) with their secret service ...

you know what, watch '1932 true history of USA'

[imangrynow]

Ok.... that's not relevant as to how the UK was apparently responsible for WW1.

I would also dispute that the US is less pro free trade than the UK, I think it depends on the party of government at the time, in both nations.

[bettertobealive]

"american school of economics (protectionism) "

That gave me a giggle.

[janettebirgitte]

Prosvjeta = biggest idiot ive ever seen

[imangrynow]

Mmm yeah no historian thats for sure!

[tigiris2257]

He was wrong once, why can't he be wrong again?

[tung2sai]

This is kinda common sense. I'm not really convinced of the Britain-Germany analogy mainly because there's too many other factors involved with the two big countries that wasn't prevalent with the two European nations. There are elements that were similar but I don't think we can ignore the differences.

[TempestWriter]

This sounds kinda scary...

[yzz1979]

Thats how scholoars get famous. It is all about selling.