So out of curiosity open for anyone to answer would Sony get any form of profit from ms using blu ray as I thought Sony monopolized it's production in some way
As far as Blu Ray on a Microsoft console... Facepalm... Sony would stand to lose more money than they would make by helping Microsoft in any way in the next generation. Microsoft would have to pay BILLIONS for anything like that to happen, so don't count on it.
What I was getting at with the Kinect 2 is that Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about the hardcore gamers, they want to be the next Nintendo, because that's where the money is. Look at Microsoft's history, it is riddled with proof that they only care about one thing... MONEY!
Microsoft said the Kinect 2 is something they are going to focus on in the next generation. And the rumor is that the 720 is 20% more powerful than the Wii U. The 6670 is cheap and off the shelf, that is totally in line with what Microsoft has always done with their hardware. You forget, Microsoft is primarily a software developer.
dont think the 720 will be able to get bluray because sony owns a lot of the rights to blu ray and i dont think they would let microsoft use there technology
@kratos69xx LG owns half of the Blu ray tech...LG sued Sony for the Blu ray tech used in the PS3 and they stopped stores from selling it for a month If sony owned it that would have never happened....
@hoodedkillaray there are like 10 companies who created blu ray technology and sony contributed the most to the tech and they own the rights to the logo there is a huge committie callled like the blu ray disc asscoation which now has a shit ton of companies in it. sony is the primary creator of blu ray and the only reason LG sued sony was because sony was suing LG over phones
@kratos69xx Sony is a patent owner, consisting of 17 companies..Microsoft can get any of the other 16 companies to develop the Blu ray drive if they wanted nintendo can do the same.. Sony holds the most patents related to the disc design structure..And Panasonic holds the most patents in the technology..
The No-used games thing must be some kind of psy-op experiment in order to see how mindless and brainwash we are. If it turns out true, and it's merely the rumored 20% more powerful than Wii U, the audience that they will have are the insecure penis-envying insecure male demographic who Sony statistically discovered and then based and built their first console for.
@TheRatedD No the own Stock Blu-ray Disc Association owns it...LG owns the most Stock out of all the others who own stock the Sued sony for the Blu ray tech used in the PS3...
@videogamejo Wrong, they didn't create Blu-ray nor do they own it, Sony only partially owns Blu-ray. Also, Sony partially owns DVD as well but the Xbox 360 runs games on DVD. SO it's possibly for Microsoft to acquire Blu-Ray as well.
@videogamejo Sony Doesn't own Blu ray and they didn't create it Blu-ray Disc Association did sony owns stock along with othe companies and LG owning the Most..If sony Created it then LG would not have sued them for the Tech used in the PS3 and Hulted it from being sold for a month...Microsoft doesn't need permission from sony to use the rights to blu ray Blu-ray Disc Association already gave them permission...
I'm not a troll wacko. I genuinely believed that Sony created Blu Ray. I didn't realize they made it with a bunch of other companies until someone corrected me.
@TheSoulja99boy I acknowledged that they didn't in a bunch of other comments. They made it with a bunch of other companies. Way to be a dick about it though. Asshole.
Of course Microsoft has to use BluRay...What other viable choice is there. I've been telling the Zephyrnix's and IcyRhyms of the world this for months....years even.
BluRay is the only realistic choice for the next generation.
@Persistantthug Well i heard nintendo is creating there own disc and if Microsoft uses blu-ray, Sony will be getting royalties for each blu-ray produced so its just a rumor and if it does use blu-ray then.....YEAH!!! I will be buying so many movies like scarface to watch nice quality ;D haha but we will see :I
What Nintendo is using, is a BluRay without the ability to play movies.
Also, were you not aware that Sony owns rights to DVDs and CDs too? Sony gets royalties for those too and that obviously doesn't stop Microsoft from using those. So why would Sony' proprietary share of BluRay stop Microsoft from using it in XBOX 3?
Business is business....Business isn't really about fanboy'ism.
What i'm worried about is the crappy graphics card.If that's the card for real in the 720,real talk i'll get a WiiU & a Decent Gaming PC.Also BG with that fresh cut!!!!!!!
@TheDiagnoser I don't really think they're doing that very much either. You got a lot of games that are eating up 25-40GB of data, but a good portion of that is 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1 compressed and uncompressed audio. Just to give you an idea, an compressed 3 to 4 minute song could be as large as 30MB by itself. That's just one song without all the extras of surround sound thrown in
the only way I watch movies is on blu-ray I don't do DVD's and streaming HD or downloading HD is not the same as physical media if you think it is then you need to upgrade your TV
@therealhard8times lol testing out netflix the other day on ps3 then comparing that to a physical format like blu-ray... lmao the difference is night/day. Hate it when some vids on netflix have the "HD" tag, lol no it aint.
I don't know about anyone else, but Blu ray will remain irrelevant for me until it's fully utilized for games. I'm talking about vast open worlds, visuals that are unmatched, and 1080p with no compromises.
@IcyRhythms if 360 had used blu-rays this gen, it probably would've been fully utilized between both the 360 and PS3. basically, developers had to compromise the games b/c 360 had limited storage (i.e. battlefield 3 on consoles would've graphically mirrored the PC version).
@digitaltiger777 To be fair, MS went with DVD to keep the price of their console down. Sony forced BR on all of us. Developers and consumers or like, and if we didn't like it, too bad.
I think next generation it will play more of a role. Just don't know if it will be by a lot or a little.
Right now, it's silly things for people to be excited about. Oh, we have this game, and the developer included an old school game from last gen on the same disc.
@IcyRhythms being the ps3 fanboy i i'm, believe it or not, i wasn't taking a shot at microsoft. i was just merely stating the facts. as for bluray being forced on us, i doubt that was sony intentions; they were just keeping up w/ the times and giving developers a larger canvas for their art. as for including a last gen game on a disc, and? more is better regardless. #CANTWAITFORFEB14TH :)
@digitaltiger777 No, they forced it on us. If you want a PS3 and don't care about bluray as a consumer or a developer, you're getting it anyway. I think part of the problem is that developers weren't ready for a larger canvas. The cost of production for these game has gone up so high that it's ridiculous. We will probably never see BR used to the best of its capabilities. I would love a sequel to Red Dead with two or three times the size and just as much for a more lengthy story.
@IcyRhythms i meant if terms of it being a large game and the fact they are going to drop DLC for it. and yeah...BR has nothing to do with that mess considering it's shitty on all platforms; bethesda is lazy and overrated who cares more about quantity rather than quality.
@digitaltiger777 That's why I don't usually buy their games until a considerable amount of patches come out.
They didn't drop DLC for it. MS paid to have the DLC for Skyrim timed exclusive from what I read.
People can blame DVD9 for the rise in DLC if they like. Fact is, video games are still a business at the end of the day. If these guys can make more money out of you, they will.
@IcyRhythms true. they will find a way to milk us. as for bethesda, they have great ideas and games if they worked properly. i almost never trade in games but fallout3 was an exception. i actually loved that game but it kept crashing my ps3; plus it was glitchy/buggy. i played the demo to RAGE and that game is beautiful. i plan to get the game of year version (w/ all the DLC) for cheap when it comes out. :)
@digitaltiger777 As someone like yourself who really loves his PS3, you'd probably truly appreciate it if more developers took advantage of the machine you play.
Thank you... someone who made a video using common sense. I liked this because you didn't make a video like everybody else even entertaining the idiocy.
Niggas are riding the Wii U train a little too strong, and we haven't even seen any damn games for it. So how the hell does anybody know they will want it without a game seen on it at all. If they've shown some please direct me to them. Cause all I saw was a pre-rendered tech demo & a hide & seek game with Mii's.
@BroKenGaMezHD I've heard that they were using a BluRay, a new graphics card was being developed for it already, etc. Why do think they're setting up for failure? LOL I'm not an Xbox gamer at all, but making a system to make used games not work on it might be a pretty bad idea. But I think they're more using a "Product Key" method like they do on the PC. Also, believe it man..M$ rushed the X360 to get it out before the PS3, and they'll do it again.
@suiton629 Because the graphics card they will use is already out on PC and it only $80 so that tell you right there it's no good.A great graphic card would cost about $400-$600 the PC is already so far ahead of consoles that it's not even funny.PC is just better than anything Sony or MS can put out.
Sony did create blu ray,Sony is also in alot of dept.
brodiecoan 3 weeks ago
So out of curiosity open for anyone to answer would Sony get any form of profit from ms using blu ray as I thought Sony monopolized it's production in some way
beyonderism 3 weeks ago
As far as Blu Ray on a Microsoft console... Facepalm... Sony would stand to lose more money than they would make by helping Microsoft in any way in the next generation. Microsoft would have to pay BILLIONS for anything like that to happen, so don't count on it.
TehLawnmowerMan 4 weeks ago
What I was getting at with the Kinect 2 is that Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about the hardcore gamers, they want to be the next Nintendo, because that's where the money is. Look at Microsoft's history, it is riddled with proof that they only care about one thing... MONEY!
TehLawnmowerMan 4 weeks ago
Microsoft said the Kinect 2 is something they are going to focus on in the next generation. And the rumor is that the 720 is 20% more powerful than the Wii U. The 6670 is cheap and off the shelf, that is totally in line with what Microsoft has always done with their hardware. You forget, Microsoft is primarily a software developer.
TehLawnmowerMan 4 weeks ago
Wait what job do u have?
agomaster5 4 weeks ago
Anti used games is impossible after awhile of using a new game it will think its used and not play it? That's a stupid ass rumor whoever started
HardCoreCAGaming 4 weeks ago
how is a system blocking used games even possible??
DarkusRaider 4 weeks ago
@DarkusRaiderThe disc might have some sort of special code tht is read by the chip.
Sephiroth2345 4 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
you should make a video about anti-used games
cuuhhhlyde 4 weeks ago
dont think the 720 will be able to get bluray because sony owns a lot of the rights to blu ray and i dont think they would let microsoft use there technology
kratos69xx 4 weeks ago
@kratos69xx LG owns half of the Blu ray tech...LG sued Sony for the Blu ray tech used in the PS3 and they stopped stores from selling it for a month If sony owned it that would have never happened....
hoodedkillaray 4 weeks ago
@hoodedkillaray there are like 10 companies who created blu ray technology and sony contributed the most to the tech and they own the rights to the logo there is a huge committie callled like the blu ray disc asscoation which now has a shit ton of companies in it. sony is the primary creator of blu ray and the only reason LG sued sony was because sony was suing LG over phones
kratos69xx 3 weeks ago
@kratos69xx Sony is a patent owner, consisting of 17 companies..Microsoft can get any of the other 16 companies to develop the Blu ray drive if they wanted nintendo can do the same.. Sony holds the most patents related to the disc design structure..And Panasonic holds the most patents in the technology..
hoodedkillaray 3 weeks ago
have you had sexual relations with your boss BG?
XPERTOWNER 4 weeks ago
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TheCreed20 4 weeks ago
PS4 will use holodisk, Xbox will use Blu Ray, holodisk=100 to 200 GB>Blu Ray
MultiPlaystationman 4 weeks ago
@MultiPlaystationman ps4 will also support 4k resolution which is 10 times better than 1080p
kratos69xx 4 weeks ago
Sorry people do ure research, sony did the whole used games thing with the PS3 then realized that they couldn't do it
IISci0nII 4 weeks ago
@IISci0nII Now with over 2 million Gamestops closing it makes sense now....
hoodedkillaray 4 weeks ago
The No-used games thing must be some kind of psy-op experiment in order to see how mindless and brainwash we are. If it turns out true, and it's merely the rumored 20% more powerful than Wii U, the audience that they will have are the insecure penis-envying insecure male demographic who Sony statistically discovered and then based and built their first console for.
stringanime 4 weeks ago
I could care less about xbox. Its all about Playstation.
SiggasFan24 4 weeks ago
anti used games...
RIP Micro$oft.
Never even should've joined the industry
M4TRIXed 4 weeks ago
Gud shyt BG
Nyles99 4 weeks ago
why belive in rumors? :s
renegade8164 4 weeks ago
Lol thats lik saying "oh Sony you've won this war." They aint lik that tbh their afraid to challenge Sony about it.
FadedMagz 4 weeks ago
Doesn't Sony own Blu-ray?
TheRatedD 4 weeks ago
@TheRatedD
They own it for their console, maybe they will get an arragement (money) with microsoft...
TheGamer95times 4 weeks ago
@TheGamer95times They don't own it..LG sued them for the Blu ray tech used in the PS3 and they halted PS3's from being sold in stores for a month...
hoodedkillaray 4 weeks ago
@hoodedkillaray
Oh really? then it's alright, i'd like the new xbox to have blu-ray,..
TheGamer95times 4 weeks ago
@TheRatedD No the own Stock Blu-ray Disc Association owns it...LG owns the most Stock out of all the others who own stock the Sued sony for the Blu ray tech used in the PS3...
hoodedkillaray 4 weeks ago
@hoodedkillaray Kool, thanks for the info. I was confused about why the LG thing had happened.
TheRatedD 4 weeks ago
"blu-ray is IRRELEVANT4LIFE" elpresador lol
Rhodzii 4 weeks ago
recording video during work? Watch out.We have a badass over here.
darkdrake13 4 weeks ago
no way in hell Microsoft in gonna have blu-ray in the next Xbox! that would like sayings " Ok Sony is better than us they won "
gramel123 4 weeks ago
Since Sony created Blu Ray it might be tough for Microsofts next console to get it. Sony should not give them the rights to Blu Ray
videogamejo 4 weeks ago 13
@videogamejo Wrong, they didn't create Blu-ray nor do they own it, Sony only partially owns Blu-ray. Also, Sony partially owns DVD as well but the Xbox 360 runs games on DVD. SO it's possibly for Microsoft to acquire Blu-Ray as well.
quicksilver2055 4 weeks ago
@videogamejo Sony Doesn't own Blu ray and they didn't create it Blu-ray Disc Association did sony owns stock along with othe companies and LG owning the Most..If sony Created it then LG would not have sued them for the Tech used in the PS3 and Hulted it from being sold for a month...Microsoft doesn't need permission from sony to use the rights to blu ray Blu-ray Disc Association already gave them permission...
hoodedkillaray 4 weeks ago
@videogamejo sony did not create blu-ray
kihffd 4 weeks ago
@videogamejo Sony wasn't the only one to create blu ray -_-
HearTBreaKiD023 4 weeks ago
@HearTBreaKiD023 no they werent there were 9 compaines who helped but sony was the primary company who made the tech
kratos69xx 3 weeks ago
@videogamejo yeah sony created blu ray...lmao
Ryguy096 4 weeks ago
@Ryguy096
Yeah they made it with a bunch of other companies though. So maybe Microsoft would be able to get it.
videogamejo 4 weeks ago
@videogamejo Obvious troll is obvious
TheYoshiPC 3 weeks ago
@TheYoshiPC
I'm not a troll wacko. I genuinely believed that Sony created Blu Ray. I didn't realize they made it with a bunch of other companies until someone corrected me.
videogamejo 3 weeks ago
@videogamejo Sony didn't create blu ray dumbass
TheSoulja99boy 3 weeks ago
@TheSoulja99boy I acknowledged that they didn't in a bunch of other comments. They made it with a bunch of other companies. Way to be a dick about it though. Asshole.
videogamejo 3 weeks ago
@videogamejo you are the asshole
TheSoulja99boy 3 weeks ago
@videogamejo Sony created Blu Ray? Since when?
Tuga777 2 weeks ago
My neck hurts..
videogamejo 4 weeks ago
what.. its totally seems like microsoft lmao
SUCKRPUNCHED 4 weeks ago
Blueray is just an HD codec.
mrchibitix59 4 weeks ago
@mrchibitix59
everything is a codec
Danzoizanagi 4 weeks ago
my nigga doin humpmasterflex
EpIcGaMeZHD 4 weeks ago 6
The Xbox 720 is going to be 6x powerful than the 360
I wonder if its going to also fail 6x more xD
xXNovaxDeathxStarXx 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms oh interesting. Thanks for answering.
TheDiagnoser 4 weeks ago
@digitaltiger777 lol actually I think twisted metal black is going to be a digital download.
TheDiagnoser 4 weeks ago
BroKenGaMezHD,
Of course Microsoft has to use BluRay...What other viable choice is there. I've been telling the Zephyrnix's and IcyRhyms of the world this for months....years even.
BluRay is the only realistic choice for the next generation.
Persistantthug 4 weeks ago
@Persistantthug Well i heard nintendo is creating there own disc and if Microsoft uses blu-ray, Sony will be getting royalties for each blu-ray produced so its just a rumor and if it does use blu-ray then.....YEAH!!! I will be buying so many movies like scarface to watch nice quality ;D haha but we will see :I
Renegado140 4 weeks ago
@Renegado140
What Nintendo is using, is a BluRay without the ability to play movies.
Also, were you not aware that Sony owns rights to DVDs and CDs too? Sony gets royalties for those too and that obviously doesn't stop Microsoft from using those. So why would Sony' proprietary share of BluRay stop Microsoft from using it in XBOX 3?
Business is business....Business isn't really about fanboy'ism.
Just sayin.
Persistantthug 4 weeks ago
What i'm worried about is the crappy graphics card.If that's the card for real in the 720,real talk i'll get a WiiU & a Decent Gaming PC.Also BG with that fresh cut!!!!!!!
TheOJof360 4 weeks ago
sony owns bluray
Microsoft is gonna have to make an equivalent
And i think sony is gonna take back the crown in america next gen...
mcknight9127 4 weeks ago
nice:)
TheTdo30 4 weeks ago
why make a vid only about gossip its pointless & false
HardcoreGamertag 4 weeks ago
dude sony developed and own blu ray, do you think they will give there closet competitor the rights to bluray?
stephenddblyth 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms do developers fully utilize bluray capabilities for exclusive games?
TheDiagnoser 4 weeks ago
@TheDiagnoser I don't really think they're doing that very much either. You got a lot of games that are eating up 25-40GB of data, but a good portion of that is 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1 compressed and uncompressed audio. Just to give you an idea, an compressed 3 to 4 minute song could be as large as 30MB by itself. That's just one song without all the extras of surround sound thrown in
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@TheDiagnoser no
stephenddblyth 4 weeks ago
I layed on my futon sideways to watch this lol BG :)
BunnyLightfootHD 4 weeks ago
@owensoft are u retarded? Dvd needs to die. Bluray is better in every way
jozza177 4 weeks ago
GHETTO
TheDiagnoser 4 weeks ago
the only way I watch movies is on blu-ray I don't do DVD's and streaming HD or downloading HD is not the same as physical media if you think it is then you need to upgrade your TV
therealhard8times 4 weeks ago 9
@therealhard8times lol testing out netflix the other day on ps3 then comparing that to a physical format like blu-ray... lmao the difference is night/day. Hate it when some vids on netflix have the "HD" tag, lol no it aint.
TheeCSZ 4 weeks ago
My PC is more powerful that the 720 and WiiU so.. there's no point in me buying them.
Ostnizdasht206 4 weeks ago
@Ostnizdasht206 your PC power is irrevelant. Just say the truth: you arent interested in console gaming, you are more than happy with PC gaming.
Mysio 4 weeks ago
I don't know about anyone else, but Blu ray will remain irrelevant for me until it's fully utilized for games. I'm talking about vast open worlds, visuals that are unmatched, and 1080p with no compromises.
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms if 360 had used blu-rays this gen, it probably would've been fully utilized between both the 360 and PS3. basically, developers had to compromise the games b/c 360 had limited storage (i.e. battlefield 3 on consoles would've graphically mirrored the PC version).
digitaltiger777 4 weeks ago
@digitaltiger777 To be fair, MS went with DVD to keep the price of their console down. Sony forced BR on all of us. Developers and consumers or like, and if we didn't like it, too bad.
I think next generation it will play more of a role. Just don't know if it will be by a lot or a little.
Right now, it's silly things for people to be excited about. Oh, we have this game, and the developer included an old school game from last gen on the same disc.
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms alike*
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms being the ps3 fanboy i i'm, believe it or not, i wasn't taking a shot at microsoft. i was just merely stating the facts. as for bluray being forced on us, i doubt that was sony intentions; they were just keeping up w/ the times and giving developers a larger canvas for their art. as for including a last gen game on a disc, and? more is better regardless. #CANTWAITFORFEB14TH :)
digitaltiger777 4 weeks ago
@digitaltiger777 No, they forced it on us. If you want a PS3 and don't care about bluray as a consumer or a developer, you're getting it anyway. I think part of the problem is that developers weren't ready for a larger canvas. The cost of production for these game has gone up so high that it's ridiculous. We will probably never see BR used to the best of its capabilities. I would love a sequel to Red Dead with two or three times the size and just as much for a more lengthy story.
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms if 360 would've used bluray, RDR probably would've been bigger; plus, we probably wouldn't have as much DLC.
"I think part of the problem is that developers weren't ready for a larger canvas."
SKYRIM?
digitaltiger777 4 weeks ago
@digitaltiger777 Skyrim is a disaster on PS3.
and I'm not sure, but I think it has little to do with BR lol
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms i meant if terms of it being a large game and the fact they are going to drop DLC for it. and yeah...BR has nothing to do with that mess considering it's shitty on all platforms; bethesda is lazy and overrated who cares more about quantity rather than quality.
digitaltiger777 4 weeks ago
@digitaltiger777 That's why I don't usually buy their games until a considerable amount of patches come out.
They didn't drop DLC for it. MS paid to have the DLC for Skyrim timed exclusive from what I read.
People can blame DVD9 for the rise in DLC if they like. Fact is, video games are still a business at the end of the day. If these guys can make more money out of you, they will.
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms true. they will find a way to milk us. as for bethesda, they have great ideas and games if they worked properly. i almost never trade in games but fallout3 was an exception. i actually loved that game but it kept crashing my ps3; plus it was glitchy/buggy. i played the demo to RAGE and that game is beautiful. i plan to get the game of year version (w/ all the DLC) for cheap when it comes out. :)
digitaltiger777 4 weeks ago
@digitaltiger777 As someone like yourself who really loves his PS3, you'd probably truly appreciate it if more developers took advantage of the machine you play.
IcyRhythms 4 weeks ago
@IcyRhythms they used to do it in previous generations but for some rea$on, the cho$e not to. :)
digitaltiger777 4 weeks ago
Bluray needs to die
owensoft 4 weeks ago
Thank you... someone who made a video using common sense. I liked this because you didn't make a video like everybody else even entertaining the idiocy.
Niggas are riding the Wii U train a little too strong, and we haven't even seen any damn games for it. So how the hell does anybody know they will want it without a game seen on it at all. If they've shown some please direct me to them. Cause all I saw was a pre-rendered tech demo & a hide & seek game with Mii's.
ChattingWithC4 4 weeks ago
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Bain0o 4 weeks ago
you should do all your vids on your phone
I can put up with 3 minutes but 13 minutes? oh boy
2hottie69Forever 4 weeks ago 2
@2hottie69Forever hahaha lol me 2
diggity0607 4 weeks ago
but WII U cool aid and WII U cereal is apart of a balanced breakfast
highlander5523 4 weeks ago
Agreed
thaHeartbreakid 4 weeks ago
I'm with you on this one, IGN chats a bag of shit.
UkooLDoE 4 weeks ago
@BroKenGaMezHD M$ will use BluRay, and the PS4 will use Holographic Versatile Discs..lol... M$ will always go the cheaper route with discs...
suiton629 4 weeks ago
Wii U O's taste good. lol I had to turn my laptop sideways. If that was your phone that has a nice camera man.
Fragm3nt3d 4 weeks ago
@BroKenGaMezHD I've heard that they were using a BluRay, a new graphics card was being developed for it already, etc. Why do think they're setting up for failure? LOL I'm not an Xbox gamer at all, but making a system to make used games not work on it might be a pretty bad idea. But I think they're more using a "Product Key" method like they do on the PC. Also, believe it man..M$ rushed the X360 to get it out before the PS3, and they'll do it again.
suiton629 4 weeks ago
@suiton629 Because the graphics card they will use is already out on PC and it only $80 so that tell you right there it's no good.A great graphic card would cost about $400-$600 the PC is already so far ahead of consoles that it's not even funny.PC is just better than anything Sony or MS can put out.
MrBlackatheist 4 weeks ago
I'm watching this video with my head sideways
TheGamer2323 4 weeks ago
microsoft will probably make a green ray lol
UNDEFEA73D 4 weeks ago
At least you dont do facebook at work
wbrulez 4 weeks ago
(doing random comment to avoid the "im first" douchebags)
TyranikingPT 4 weeks ago