If you mean the pass, then you still extend first. However, this whole bout contains example after example of the attacker stepping forward, whether with a lunge or a pass, and then extending (or at best doing both at the same time). The masters are quite clear on this, but Giganti and Marcelli are especially so.
Well they will appear to move in the same time if you move fast enough, and yes for a lunge you do, but you can use the leg to faint, inevitably when people expect the arm first, as I say, theres a lot more to it, its not always about strict rules.
I am the guy in the cream jacket, yes we count leg hits, as for speaking to an escrimador fighter, we at all times as much as possible keep to the historical techniques of what we are studying, as for the black topped guys technique, firstly, as you probably know, what you learn and what happens in a fight is often rather different, secondly, his lunge is incredably fast,you could feint and attack his leg, but doing that without getting his sword in your chest is a different matter
Also when you parry with your dagger out and to the left, you are leaving your head very exposed. you lose your stance because you are trying to force his blade to far beyond where you should be. All you need to do is force it out away from you and move in. Your bashing it and your following with your upper body.
generally about blacks right leg: he tends to stick it out unbend, the weigth on the heel.(very clearly 52)
I assume that you do not count hits to the legs.
that would partially explain your defunct technique (this part, i thougt the fight overall very enjoyable and good).but its a dangerous habit anyway, you heavily affect yout abilty to dodge further. if you want to change, i advise asking an escrimador (philipinean close range stick technique) about a technique called "chicken step".
at 44, 47, 51, 1.08, 1.26 Black shows a very bad habit: you should not deflect a thrust by hitting the opponent blade that hard, you are losing your stance and disbalance yourself. a opponent analytic enough will soon feign a thrust and use your parry to atack your right leg while drawing the blade back.
nice video! my uncle is doing something similar.
treborlleb123 8 months ago
Good video!
Glad that there are people who make an effort to keep the tradition alive.
rastanswibbo 2 years ago
nice... is cut and thrust fight right?
BlueBluszcz 3 years ago
No, these are late period rapier, from around 1630-1640, more typical of Alfieri than the longer earlier stuff such as Capo Ferro.
Nikos3000 2 years ago
Those main gauche are surprisingly long...
anonvscos 3 years ago
Historical examples vary massively, though yes both daggers seen here are at the larger end of the scale, we have a huge variety in the club.
Nikos3000 2 years ago
seriously they're huge
Supertomiman 2 years ago
do u need a license for a real sword?
bannappleburger 3 years ago
Not in England and Wales, though you do have to be careful carrying them in public and have a legitimate reason for having one really.
blackkat5 3 years ago
tres sympa !
marmadoise 3 years ago
Hello there
I would love to know where you train
apraiswild 3 years ago
Hi,
Our we are based in the UK and we have clubs in Bristol and South Wales. Cheers :)
blackkat5 3 years ago
Where'd you guys buy your swords?
Dylan5131 3 years ago
The ones in this Vid are made of Armourclass of Scotland, we also use Del Tins, Darkwood Armoury and Hanwei Practicals.
Nikos3000 3 years ago
You MUST learn to extend before you lunge (yes, the rapier masters tell us to do that).
Marozzo1536 4 years ago
IF you are lunging, yes the arm always extends before the body moves, as we have done here, but theres a lot more to rapier fighting than the lunge.
Nikos3000 4 years ago
If you mean the pass, then you still extend first. However, this whole bout contains example after example of the attacker stepping forward, whether with a lunge or a pass, and then extending (or at best doing both at the same time). The masters are quite clear on this, but Giganti and Marcelli are especially so.
Marozzo1536 4 years ago
Well they will appear to move in the same time if you move fast enough, and yes for a lunge you do, but you can use the leg to faint, inevitably when people expect the arm first, as I say, theres a lot more to it, its not always about strict rules.
Nikos3000 3 years ago
I am the guy in the cream jacket, yes we count leg hits, as for speaking to an escrimador fighter, we at all times as much as possible keep to the historical techniques of what we are studying, as for the black topped guys technique, firstly, as you probably know, what you learn and what happens in a fight is often rather different, secondly, his lunge is incredably fast,you could feint and attack his leg, but doing that without getting his sword in your chest is a different matter
Nikos3000 4 years ago
Also when you parry with your dagger out and to the left, you are leaving your head very exposed. you lose your stance because you are trying to force his blade to far beyond where you should be. All you need to do is force it out away from you and move in. Your bashing it and your following with your upper body.
ShadowofTrout 4 years ago
i will put this to my favorites. would love to get a response to the novel i wrote here:)
Phaedi
phaederkiel 4 years ago
at 1,00 even more dangerous, he attacks and jerks his dagger back. with a dagger you should not balance yourself by using your arm as a counterweight.
black generaly has a stance a little too defensive. your rushing is good, but you have to cover 10 centimeters distance you should not have to cover.
well this is about personal affinity.
nice atack by black at 1,03. difficult to strike from this off-balance position.
phaederkiel 4 years ago
generally about blacks right leg: he tends to stick it out unbend, the weigth on the heel.(very clearly 52)
I assume that you do not count hits to the legs.
that would partially explain your defunct technique (this part, i thougt the fight overall very enjoyable and good).but its a dangerous habit anyway, you heavily affect yout abilty to dodge further. if you want to change, i advise asking an escrimador (philipinean close range stick technique) about a technique called "chicken step".
phaederkiel 4 years ago
at 44, 47, 51, 1.08, 1.26 Black shows a very bad habit: you should not deflect a thrust by hitting the opponent blade that hard, you are losing your stance and disbalance yourself. a opponent analytic enough will soon feign a thrust and use your parry to atack your right leg while drawing the blade back.
phaederkiel 4 years ago