MotorWeek Road Test: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V

[Annihilator1111]

the 2009-present Cadillac CTS-V is assembled in

Lansing, Michigan, United States

[buttnut1080]

OOOHHH BOOYYY! This car has spec sheet prowess so I'm sure you fanboys LOVE IT!

[2423hop]

THIS IS G.M. AT IT's BEST!!

[blaboy2012]

if that engine was 32 valve just imagine how much more power it would have

[jipi0001]

GM is king

[Greendude33]

I haven't seen the Germans get their ass kicked this bad since 1945.

[4MATICbenz]

@Greendude33 , hehe nice comment.

Not sure if it will hold true for too much longer. The new F10 BMW M5 is coming in a few monthes, and the Audi RS6 less than a year after that. We'll see how much longer the CTS-V keeps its crown.

[Greendude33]

@4MATICbenz Look up the next gen CTS line it gets a revamped more refined and lighter chassis.

And the V version is slated to get the new Dual clutch tranny from the upcoming C7 along with a new version of the new ls engine GM is developing.

So if a heavy CTSV with a traditional transmission can beat the Germans imagine the next generation which will be lighter with a more advanced transmission.

[4MATICbenz]

@Greendude33 ,hmmm good point. Wasnt sure about when they were updatig the CTS-V and what improvements they had in store. Maybe CTS-V will keep its crown after all. Competition between the high-performance sedan class is getting very intense.

[coandcaiv]

only car i have ever liked by caddy.....bought time they stopped making the ultimate turds....id still choose a vette though....the sex appeal is just far too much for my peter to say no too XD!!

[Marc99GT]

That is the biggest line of bullshit about MB cars I ever heard. I'm a former Mercedes Benz tech and my bay was never empty. I did warranty repairs on 5-7 cars a day. They are far from reliable and JD Power supports my claim. They are ranked below average while Cadillac, Buick, Lincoln & Mercury are near the top. We won't even discuss maintenance costs or brake service. On AMG cars, a brake job would bankrupt most people in this post.

[uberenthusiasts]

@Marc99GT That is why poor people don't buy Mercedes-Benzes moron.

[Marc99GT]

@uberenthusiasts That was a really intelligent comment.

[Diddlen]

I'd take the AMG any day. Same performance better resale, better reliability

[UFCextra]

@Diddlen ya right benz has 4yr/50k warranty new vs cadillac 5 yr/100k warranty. clearly stating how a mercedez benz WILL fall apart before any cadillac.

Plus this car " EASILY out-classes it's M and AMG rivals "....EASILY HAHAHAHAHAA Fuck Europe ain't SHIT !!

[Diddlen]

@UFCextra MB doesn't need a 5 year warranty. Owned several MB's (no problems) and more GM products. GM's fall apart at exactly 18 months. Better get the extended warranty.

[UFCextra]

@Diddlen the word " Warranty" means : They Guarentee your car WILL NOT break at all for 5 yrs/100K miles. Mercedes Warranty's are 4 yr/50K Miles, Hence after 50k miles- they start to break overall unlike cadillac starts to break at 100K miles . My 90's Cadillac is at 310,000 miles on it . no problems. Int./Ext, in Excellent condition

[maximusextreme]

@UFCextra Last time I checked the warranty means the company WILL fix it when it breaks, not that the car WILL NOT break during that time period. My friend has an '04 CTS and it was in the shop with warranty work A LOT. I'm still skeptical when it comes to American cars. They were junk for a very long time until recently.

[ParisTNDude]

@Diddlen Diddien...you have no clue of what you're talking about...I've had new GM cars since 1966 and not one of them have ever given me a single major problem. Unlike the new BMW I bought that was in the shop probably ten times in the first year with major problems. Oh, and an oil change cost $350. The 70,000 Mercedes service cost me over $1800.

[HarryPotterShit1]

M5 is the best car in this category.

GM is comparing a 6 year old M5 to a brand new CTSv lol.

F10 2011 M5 will continue the dominance.

=(^.^)=

[usaLINCOLN]

the good old days are coming back :)

[7477238]

My faith in GM is restored. This is so kickass. Now why would they be available with automatic? The manual is a whole lot better.

[uhustic4545]

that car just looks sooo bad ass

[alantois]

most enjoyable ride i've found.

[oDTheTruth]

Just watching the host makes this show feel like its from the 80s.

[Cdude121]

Im not a fan of four doors but this car rocks

[MrColbrot]

nice job usa, i got a maxima, but would love one of these, if i was rich!

[Michael6609]

The Caddilac uses a supercharger in order to get more than 500hp from a 6.2L engine while BMW gets 500HP from a 5.0L engine without a blower.

[mannybz]

@Michael6609  a massaged down supercharged engine.. make sure you get it right. the potential is over 600 HP.

[AlphaGearHead]

It would've had been just perfect with a LS7 sans the blower. Nothing like the rumbling of a normally aspirated V8 engine

[turbodreamst88]

its not a twin clutch 6 speed manual....its a twin DISC clutch

[8motion]

i do not like american cars..but the cts-v...would be nice...great improvements..interior and exterior ..looks good.. (fast and handles well...) just a bit big...they need to have a smaller model..to compete with the smaller 3 series..

[tommy605]

GM, yes, Caddy, no.  Caddy should not come in a small car like the 3 series. Defeats the purpose of the luxury part. But GM needs to have something to compete with the 3 series from BMW and the A4 from Audi.

Just don't call it a Cadillac. Hahahaha They're meant to be bigger and roomier, and not really meant to handle like this one does. LOL

[8motion]

Well the 3 series is larger inside then the previous CTS-V in general the outside is big but the interior space is smaller then the 3 series.. would like to see a smaller package with better use of interior space.

My friends CTS-V previous to this one was cramped..in front and rear. Example. of a smallish car with big interior was the old SAAB 95...classed as a larger car but small on the outside...short overhangs front and rear is best

[exBMRguy]

Cadillac is a weldare car company.

Cadillac CTS-V placed FOURTH in the latest CAR magazine comparo. This is with the same driver. A fair comparison, unlike the BS from Government Motors.

CTS-V lost and placed 4th in the latest CAR magazine comparo.

Merc E63-1.36.22

Mitsu EVO FQ400-1.36.44

Porsche Panamera Turbo-1.36.83

Caddy CTS-V-1.38.85

[FtmfwId]

Only one of the cars in that list is actually in the CTS-V's class and it still retails for FAR FAR more money. An EVO? Really?

Also, using one euro-biased magazine as a source is pretty lame. There have been other reviews that show the CTS-V to be faster than both the E63 and M5 on the track.

[carranza828]

yeah European tests are always biased.

[pimpinkin87]

So what, you talking like the caddys not a good car so what it lost, the benz placed 1st in the lastest car and driver issue which is an american magazine, take that governement motors bullshit somewhere else, how about you post video of whatever pos u have that can beat this car since you know so much, for 65k u cant go wrong with this car nobody else seems to have an issue with it, besides thats only one track lets see some other tracks times

[youlance29]

CTS-V is KING!!!!

[ParisTNDude]

@youlance29 If i had to live with just one car for the rest of my life it would have to be a CTS-V. It goes, it stops, it's comfortable and it's a man's car!!! Damn, why am I not rich instead of so handsome!!! lol.

[youlance29]

CTS-V IS KING!!!

[sirlonghair]

@youlance29 LS3 is king

[GTO19020]

@sirlonghair LOL this uses an LSA...not LS3 lol ur thinking of the old V

[sirlonghair]

@GTO19020 your trying to sat LS8 and that would be an LS3 with a blower hello

[loudblazer]

@GTO19020 the old V didnt use a LS3, The earlier ones used the LS6 and the newer ones used a LS2.

[wildbloodydragon]

Motorweek is back! Holy shit, so many memories...

[amer1cancer2753]

Why would GM purposely lower the HP in the CTS-V? Doesn't help anyone and just make GM look stupid.

[blue03r6]

I mean 17mpg...

[blue03r6]

556 hp and 17mph...that's fantastic. I think my S/10 with a V6 gets that.

[FtmfwId]

Yes and your S10 will easily rollover in a quick lane change and makes less than 200hp.

[blue03r6]

they actually handle pretty good for a truck.

especially the Extreme or the ones with the ZQ8 package. they are both lowered and have rear sway bars.

I drive mine like I stole it and it's only stepped the rear end out. it would take a hell of a lot to roll one.

[buttnut1080]

Check out the 2006 Mercedes S65 AMG. Try 612 hp with the same fuel economy.

[Lantho650]

@buttnut1080 hell no . why would I look at poorly built european luxury cars when this car " easily out-classes both it's M and AMG rivals " ? From the interior to the exterior of this cts - hands down it is far better quality and performance than any european luxury car maker.

[buttnut1080]

@Lantho650 That merc is built better and has better performance. You think that's not true cuz the motor week guy said that then you're wrong; he wasn't even talking about the S65. Not only that but he was talking about the old E63 and M5; check out the new E63 and wait for the upcoming M5; both are of much higher quality and performance than the CTS-V

[ChemicalPrince]

i will now start saving.

This car is sex on wheels. Drive by a girl and she is guaranteed to orgasm.

xD

[adogg619]

Or you just give her the $60k you paid for the car and she's still guaranteed to orgasm.

[ReSanSax]

LOL good one.

[Quadio1]

i was wondering

[uncleflaco]

I'm waiting for prices to come down on the used ones. The lowest I've seen is $48K and that's still more than I want to pay or carry in loan debt. I drove the auto and can honestly say that it's faster than the old 2000 Viper I had and feels like the Z06 my cousin owns. Excellent car!

[yourbestfriend6492]

That black trim on the dash is ugly. I still like the E63 AMG because its a naturally aspirated big engine. They sound incredible. There isn't much wrong with a CTS-V, I'm just not a fan of turbos or superchargers.

[aironesandjays]

super weeaaakkk its a cadillac american muscle and cadillac doesnt even sound good in the same sentence

[baileal]

Which one of your German sedans does the ring that quick?

[chbrules]

The new Bugatti saloon car with the W16 engine from the Veyron. Yes, Bugatti was founded in part of Germany back in the day; a territory now owned by France.

[tblack21]

I've driven this car and I was beyond impressed. I drove the 6 speed manual and I was shocked at how great the shift feel was and how effortless the clutch action was. I don't have the highest expectations from GM manual transmissions but this was better than anything I've ever driven. It felt as good as my e92 M3 and had shorter throws. I still think I'd rather wait for the coupe though.

[sebast007]

Well GM don't realy make there transmissions on most of there cars (just like most other automakers*). They are a part in the creation process of it, but the company that developed the manual transmission for the CTS-V is Tremek. I don't know about the auto trans, but it might be from Tremek too.

I also can't wait for the CTS Coupe!

[PDro11]

Much respect to cadillac. 107 years and still strong. Never thought i would own a cadillac until i bought one. Wouldn't give it up for anything else.

[Greendude33]

how funny is it that this car is faster than the shleby gt500 haha take that ford haha amazing caddy btw

[matslou]

why people buy bmw or merce,, when you can have a better car half price.

[blazex4]

its all about the brand

[chbrules]

Depends what you want in a car. Just because it's a hair faster than the M5 doesn't really mean it's all that much better.

[baileal]

Yes!

[Towelman20]

The CTS-V is impresive in evry performance catogorey.

[GhostCell07]

John Davis is a classic

[MontrealMan1970]

I own a Merc V12 but love seeing the CAD kick the sausage's arse.

[stylin440]

I don't care who you are; everyone wants this car! It's so sexy! "Whoa" just doesn't do it justice!

[ozaudioman]

4.2 seconds to sixty is more than a second faster than the 04?...Bullshit, my 05 tested 4.7 to sixty. So, either they don't know how to drive a stick or they're just blowing smoke to make this car sound more impressive. It is very impressive no matter what your comparing it to.

[Cadillac18Nate]

The 09 can go from 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

[ozaudioman]

I've heard the same...the video said it did it in 4.2 which was a full second faster. Don't think so. Now the 3.9 is get very close to a full second faster. Might have to invest in one in a year or two

[loudblazer]

@Cadillac18Nate ive watched a lot of tests and have yet to see a 3.9 0-60. Most are 4.1-4.2. I bet i can do it in very ideal conditions. 3.9 is just a good number for commercials though, lol.

[EFK1993]

@loudblazer I noticed that too. I think GM just likes to brag cause think about it how many random drivers can get a 0 to 60 in 3.9 secs

[markmarshall39]

who cares about the gas mileage!!

[Cadillac18Nate]

that mileage sucks. mini vans have metter mileage.

[KnoCantMix]

no shit. does a mini van have a 427 in it ?

[master9716]

the cts has better numbers than what motorweek got. 117feet LOL , every other mag got a 109feet stop from 60 and faster 0-60

[dnur567]

the ultimate M5 and E63 competitor

[3O2MuStAnG]

there are plenty of tests against the M5.

the 2009 CTS-V is faster AND stronger than the V10 M5 althought the M5 is a bit lighter.

tested by MotorTrend.

[mayhem123321]

m5 is 4 years old k thx bai

[snowmane11]

and who says GM dont make quality cars!

[grannyBangproduction]

i cant wait im gonna get one in 4 years

[couchebag]

I have a feeling these won't be that much cheaper in 4 years. They will be the last of the great Cadillacs and with Obama Motors calling the shots, newer versions will be closer to Smart cars.

[gm9810]

Very True. Requiring 20+ mpg on all vehicles, thats impossible.

[t6658]

4 years huh grannyBangproduction. I heard, as part of GMs agreement on their funding, they are going to remove the V series, if that is true the CTS-V will become a collectors & really hard to get hold off, good luck

[ypbohyn]

seriously, this might as wel be a 1985 video review. someone should buy motorweek and bring in some modern reviews with more modern camera angels and video editing.

[SorthNarolina]

it's a PBS show, not going to happen

in fact they have reviews from the 80s and 90s and they look about 95% simmilar, even the 70s follow the same guidlines

i love this show just as much as top gear and it really has a cult following

this show doesn't have the camera angles or video editing because it doesn't want them, they just want to present the info and let the consumers decide rather than the presenter decide for them

for ex. watch the PBS news then watch a cable outlet

[b7160]

It's a car review, not a Jerry Bruckheimer movie. They give you the car's vital stats and they show it from a bunch of different angles. What more do you want?

[djinnbladex]

This is pure entertainment. I love how you post on Beausifman, ROdikulus, Meli083 and ; Russianconer (Same Person; Numerous accounts). Everyone here is owning you pretty hard buddy. This is the result of you posting bias; which has been smashed numerous times by everyone else here. Keep it up this is pure entertainment... or you can save face and provide sources to your ridiculous claims ;). By the way the ZR1 is a MUCH better performer than the CTSv anyday. You need professional help. ;)

[djinnbladex]

RODikulus says, "The CTSv performs better and is much better than the 'cheap' ZR1."

How so? They are two totally different cars. The CTSv's engine comes from the ZR1 as well. Your obsession over the CTSv is pretty sad.

The ZR1 posts better track times and straight line times than the CTSv anyday.

N'ring Times

ZR1 : 7:29

CTSv : 7:59

Try again kid.

[heartlessvietboy]

Cadilliac's are cars that will last you a long time. The CTS-V is an excellent performing car. With a 40GB Hard Drive, Leather seats and Navigational system, the CTS-V is a car you should consider checking out when looking for a $60,000 luxury car. It is about $20,000 less than its competitors.

[colderbeer]

Even ppl that aren't fans of GM and Cadillac drool over this VERY special automobile......

[MobileSpies]

This car could get michael jackson laid...and with a girl!

[morgangamer22]

COOL

[djinnbladex]

The CTSv is an amazing car. I'm glad GM finally did something about the CTSv line and made it more competitive. 7:59 N'ring time is killer as well.

However we cannot compare this car to an M5 designed and engineered in 2004+. Even the current 2009 M5 is based off the 2004 platform.

2004-2008 CTSv competes with the 2004+ M5. The M5 dominated that generation.

The true and fair competition will come with the next M5 of the current CTSv generation. It will be fun to watch (AMG and Audi too!). ;)

[larryadam2]

The m5 had a extra 112 hp over the cts-v so yeah it dominated it give the v 512 like the M and it would be over.

[djinnbladex]

The stock 2009 CTSv has 620 HP.

The stock 2004+ model M5 has 507 HP.

[Zxzm]

The stock 2009 CTS-V has 556hp. The LS9 in the ZR-1 is rated at 630hp. The CTS-V's doesn't have a dry sump oiling system and it's compression ratio is a little lower.

[Globalpack]

The 09 CTS-V has 556 HP.

[RODikUlus]

You were already OWNED byabout 5 people here already, but I figured I chime in.

djinnbladex says " The stock 2009 CTSv has 620 HP."

WERE did he get that from?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

LOL

Sorry, djinnbladex, You have EPICALLY FAILED AGAIN!!!!

This is too easy:>)

[09NXN06]

umm, many people forget GM has a racing program which why there's beating the Germans now and let not forget the magnetic ride control is also used in the Ferrari 599 GTB saying American cars are not on par with the German is BS!

[RONALDB62]

why did they change the new grill to the retro mesh grill? just awful!

[Precocious030]

It's a signature V characteristic. plus it gives the car a smaller, more aggressive stance. i think it's great.

[t6658]

Yeh i think the mesh grille is great too. The Bentley Conti uses it too, & that looks good

[nytquil1]

Dodge Challenger SRT-8 or Cadillac CTS-V I think im going with the CTS-V now

[TheeGymWarrior]

Plus the interior on the CTS-V is WAY better than the Dodge, not to mention in almost every other department....no comparison. The Challenger SRT-8 is an un-refined brute, the CTS-V is a Mega brute with class / refinement, and a "brain".

[t6658]

I dont see why the Dodge Challenger SRT-8 is so popular because in 2010 for a similar price you can have a Camero SS & that looks better, will be newer, & has the Transformrs image

[Kingsoupturbo]

Inbelieavable they put 550hp in 59k Sedans, what crazy times we live in

[wideopen704]

looks awesome in black. really mean.

[voodoo411]

whatever happens to domestic car industry, Cadillac still has its class

[TslAtticus]

Shame it's dead. It's going to be a great collector car now.

[nimlil]

more like 4100 lbs. but it does take power to move weight. still... 12.3-12.5 (12.7 is a slow time)with a top end around 190 plus( 175 with auto). pretty danged good.

[Precocious030]

uh .. CTS-V weighs 3900 lbs.

[larryadam2]

well mybe if you new your facts the c5 zo6 weighs around 3200lbs the cts-v is around 3900lbs so its not going to be as fast even though GM says 3.9 to 60

[dilliphant3]

the c5 zo6 corvette had 405 hp and did 0-60 in 4 flat. this has 151 more hp and takes 4.2? something tells me the 556 is a little inflated.

[UberVette]

You can't be that retarded now , can you? Ever heard of power to weight? Go look it up and get back to me.

[Precocious030]

it's SAE certified .. it's not inflated at all. like larry said, the C5 Z06 weighs 700 lbs less.This car is quick because of innovative technology and power.

[SorthNarolina]

LOL

[Zxzm]

It's heavier than a corvette....

[scm11904]

its a cadillac. it is supposed to be.

[t6658]

yeh, its got 2 more doors & 3 more seats, not to mention the extra luxry & comfort, as well as, the cut price tag. It still is esentially a 4 door Corvette

[BoberMcBoberson]

I had a Chevy lumina with 167,000 on it when i got rid of it, and it was still running Just fine, The Chrysler corporation's the one you have to worry about longevity with. Everyone I've known with a Neon or Intrepid has regretted it. I have a friend with a 06 Hemi Ram 1500, only has 30,000 miles on it and he has already had to fix crap on it, and he babies it.

[DICOERREGOA]

oh boy  what a car, it`´s awesome superstylin , the M5 is a supercar, but this cady is a superbeast .... bye bye germans

[gstreetfee]

damn straight, Cadillac has proven not to be some two bit car company that will be pushed around

[Corveette]

Great car. Shows what America is capable of doing. Not to mention the ZR1

[boravw1]

lower grille looks terrible! looks like some chromed chicken wire. I wonder by saving 20K and not getting the AMG or M5 if you can change the front bumper to something that actually looks classy or aggressively sophisticated?

[DSNCB919]

yea im going to shut you up with this my 1990 Cadillac Seville has 159,000 miles runs just fine its my only car ride it daily

[gedaman]

I call this car the pimp racecar. Only joking! Pimps could benefit from this car though when they need to get their hoes to the track quickly before they go to the racetrack. LOL

[viktord1]

GM and Chrysler need to start putting their cams in the right place. Good car though.

[Moosey1789]

Define 'good'

[viktord1]

Good as in I'd like to have one :D

[minibus1351]

Jaguar XFR wins all

[Precocious030]

uhhhhh probably not ..

[kubomon17]

still like the m amg or rs better

[Powersproductions130]

I love this car! And I'm only 16!

[booey09]

you have good taste this is the best car in the world for the money