What's the difference between hardstyle and a regular kettlebell swing? The only difference I see is that he keeps squatting/ bending the knees as the kettlebell comes down. In a normal kettlebell swing, knees never bend. Not sure if he just has bad hamstring flexibility or if he's doing it right...
@FormulaDStock What are you referring to as a regular kb swing? GS? To me a squat entails simultaneous hip and knee flexion, as in sitting down, not back. This movement is a hinge, the hips flex first then the knees so I am sitting back and loading the posterior chain. hope this helps
@supmuhhumbruh I'm just thrown off by the term hardstyle. The movement the person was doing in the video was a hinge plus a squat at the bottom phase of the swing. I thought the swing was supposed to be pure hip hinge only, no additional squat or bending the knees. The way I learned to swing was to keep the knees slightly bent and use only the hip hinge, no additional knee flexion at the bottom. Knees only bend if the handle falls below the knees- anything above the knees are hips only.
@FormulaDStock This is how we teach the swing at RKC. For competition kettlebells, pure hip hinge is beneficial - since less knee flexion is involved and the load is kept more on the extensors which fatigue less quickly than the prime movers. But for power production - hardstyle and oly lifting are more appropriate
@supmuhhumbruh Ok, so let me know if I have this right now... Hardstyle swings involves squatting. Competition swings utilize no squats in the down phase. With less knee flexion, a strong flexor is also used, the hamstrings group.
I feel like more power can be produced with less knee flexion because the glutes/ hamstrings will reach a greater range of motion and store more elastic energy. By squatting, range of motion is shorter since it's distributed to the quads, hamstring and glutes.
hey man quick questions, have you ever read the movement book by gray cook? if yes if the average joe like me gets it can i correct all my positions by reading it and applying its corrective strategies?
@id0stuff I have yet to read the movement, but I have heard nothing but great things. I am not CK-FMS certified, so Joakim would certainly know better than I about which Gray Cook book would be best to start with. Thanks for viewing and let me know how else I can help!
What's the difference between hardstyle and a regular kettlebell swing? The only difference I see is that he keeps squatting/ bending the knees as the kettlebell comes down. In a normal kettlebell swing, knees never bend. Not sure if he just has bad hamstring flexibility or if he's doing it right...
FormulaDStock 1 month ago
@FormulaDStock What are you referring to as a regular kb swing? GS? To me a squat entails simultaneous hip and knee flexion, as in sitting down, not back. This movement is a hinge, the hips flex first then the knees so I am sitting back and loading the posterior chain. hope this helps
supmuhhumbruh 1 month ago
@supmuhhumbruh I'm just thrown off by the term hardstyle. The movement the person was doing in the video was a hinge plus a squat at the bottom phase of the swing. I thought the swing was supposed to be pure hip hinge only, no additional squat or bending the knees. The way I learned to swing was to keep the knees slightly bent and use only the hip hinge, no additional knee flexion at the bottom. Knees only bend if the handle falls below the knees- anything above the knees are hips only.
FormulaDStock 1 month ago
@FormulaDStock This is how we teach the swing at RKC. For competition kettlebells, pure hip hinge is beneficial - since less knee flexion is involved and the load is kept more on the extensors which fatigue less quickly than the prime movers. But for power production - hardstyle and oly lifting are more appropriate
supmuhhumbruh 1 month ago
@supmuhhumbruh Ok, so let me know if I have this right now... Hardstyle swings involves squatting. Competition swings utilize no squats in the down phase. With less knee flexion, a strong flexor is also used, the hamstrings group.
I feel like more power can be produced with less knee flexion because the glutes/ hamstrings will reach a greater range of motion and store more elastic energy. By squatting, range of motion is shorter since it's distributed to the quads, hamstring and glutes.
FormulaDStock 1 month ago
u look like a chicken!!!
sarita336 1 month ago
@sarita336 bakawk
supmuhhumbruh 1 month ago
Dude get yourself a clip on mike. The numbers of 'how to' videos on here that sound like the instructor is at the bottom of a fish bowl is unreal.
ColumbusBiker108 1 month ago
@ColumbusBiker108 I'll hire an executive producer and sound man next week. Any recommendations :p ?
supmuhhumbruh 1 month ago
porn
cavvsful 2 months ago
thiz isnt the hardstyle i wuz lookin 4
whitesnow254 5 months ago
Great form!!
shoe1214 6 months ago 3
@shoe1214 Thanks
supmuhhumbruh 1 month ago
I came here for the hardstyle dance
TehRealCanadarocker 6 months ago 4
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slapcompany 7 months ago
iiii was kiiiiinda looooking for the.....dancing....hardstyle
coopernwo007 7 months ago
@coopernwo007 haha me too
xisawsm 7 months ago
this is a great video everyone pay attention!!!!
armyjohn08 9 months ago
that exhaling noise is so obnoxious.
coldworld5 9 months ago
welcome and I shared it on FB....Great video bud:)
BaltimoreKBs 10 months ago
Nice work Pat!
BaltimoreKBs 10 months ago
@BaltimoreKBs Thanks Sandy!
supmuhhumbruh 10 months ago
AND THEN I SACKED MYSELF....
DigitalAbsence 1 year ago
it's funny
mikq123 1 year ago
your nutts ok?
Legoman0323 1 year ago 5
@Legoman0323 theyre fantastic
supmuhhumbruh 1 year ago 14
hey man quick questions, have you ever read the movement book by gray cook? if yes if the average joe like me gets it can i correct all my positions by reading it and applying its corrective strategies?
id0stuff 1 year ago
@id0stuff
The Movement is a good book to read,
But i think the Athletic body in balance are a better book so start with =)
Joakim RKC, CK-FMC certified
kettlebellengelholm 1 year ago
@id0stuff I have yet to read the movement, but I have heard nothing but great things. I am not CK-FMS certified, so Joakim would certainly know better than I about which Gray Cook book would be best to start with. Thanks for viewing and let me know how else I can help!
supmuhhumbruh 1 year ago
Great breakdown, thanks so much. Honestly, besides Jordan's seriously in-depth breakdown, this is probably the best tutorial I've seen on the swing.
TheBarefootWarrior 1 year ago
@TheBarefootWarrior As always thanks for viewing and for the great feedback! Keep training hard!
supmuhhumbruh 1 year ago
How do you know what is the right wt for this move?
jpgriffin123 1 year ago
@jpgriffin123 For the average male, a good starting weight is 35 lbs, and 18lbs for the average female
supmuhhumbruh 1 year ago