"Dr." Stephen Moe's diagnosis: "So that's something very simple to show a problem that's happening but it's not just that it's other factors that created this because of an imbalance somewhere else, it created the problems your were... experiencing..." Gotta love that doctor lingo.
Don't you think it would be smarter to start from the cervical spine first??? This guy has cervical spine radiculopathy, and no matter what you do he'll be back with the same issue over and over... Adjusting the neck is very scary idea in this case, what if you screw his neck??? He is not 15 yrs old!! Why not to tell ppl that bc of the discs, impulses don't get to the muscles effectively making them weak...
I've been watching a few of these adjustment videos and what all chiropractors seem to have in common is that they have this showmanship attitude, like getting adjusted is magic and the results are unbelievable. They're always talking and pointing out the amazing difference they're making. The power of suggestion I guess, like they have to dupe you into thinking the same 5 adjustements that take 3 minutes is worth the $. My chiropractors over the years have been like this too. Shady.
@themetalgod21 - no he is using the tuning fork to demonstrate to you and others that cells respond to vibrational energy. Don't beleive me, study some biology. Cells transmit information through vibration and neurotransmitters. If cells don't vibrate then the body suffers due to lack of transmission/reception of information.
@themetalgod21 check out this pure science video on sound vibrations and the creation of matter/form. Stimulating the body with sound is actually modern medicine as well not to mention the use of laser frequencies based on the same principles. Search "Vibration creates matter dorinel2001" on youtube
Folks, I wish to opologize for my brother ospreylookout. His behavior though deplorable should not be used to make a final judement upon his character. Though his futile attempt to denegrate good and much necessary chiropractic care is something which doesn't lend a hand in helping the world, let's look down upon brother ospreylookout's shameful actions as a lesson for all us to reflect upon ourselves. Let's strive to do good to the world. Forgive ospreylookout for his attack upon chiropractic.
chiro: Germ-theory has been accepted by science for a hundred years as causing many of the diseases we have suffered from. Tell us how many of your distant relatives would have been alive long enough to spawn your parents had it not been for medical discoveries like penicillin? You are such an idiot. Fortunately, there are educated people out there, far more educated than some hack like you, who have enough sense that they do not buy into your delusions. Try some science on your CornFlakes.
Guardian UK: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes. Now even the General Chiropractic Council has disowned the claims of the BCA the same claims that lie at the centre of its libel action against Simon Singh. In a new report, it concludes that the evidence does not support claims that chiropractic treatment is effective for childhood colic, bed-wetting, ear infections or asthma, the very claims that Singh was sued for describing as "bogus".
ospreylookout, Oh my? I sure hope you didn't pay too much to join those anti-chiropractic medical journals? Whaa? You took out subscriptions to the anti-chiropractic journals so you can help the world fight off the chiropractic monster? Oh my, you're the noble type. But please ospreylookout, it's late. please and you should put away your anti-chiropractic action set and get some much needed sleep. Nighty night ospreylookout.
chiro: There is no conspiracy pal, unless you are so afraid of the truth that you hide like a little deluded troll when asked to provide evidence for your outlandish claims. You claim chiros can cure infant colic? Don't be an idiot, fool! There is not one stitich of evidence for this or anything else you claim. You are nothing more than a used car salesman, with a smarmy smile and dollar signs glazing over your eyes. Come on big guy, forget the searing and insults, just provide the evidence.
Guardian UK: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes. Now even the General Chiropractic Council has disowned the claims of the BCA the same claims that lie at the centre of its libel action against Simon Singh. In a new report, it concludes that the evidence does not support claims that chiropractic treatment is effective for childhood colic, bed-wetting, ear infections or asthma, the very claims that Singh was sued for describing as "bogus".
chiro:It's just that people hate liars, and you epitomise what the public are concerned about--those who will sell the uneducated things that they don't need, but package it in fear and bs. It is ironic that you call yourself a "doctor" when you are such a spineless liar. How many opportunities do you need in order to admit that there is no evidence for your snake oil? Guess what Doc, the people have been smelling you for a long time and now this scandal in the UK has exposed you frauds.
ospreypoopyonu, We need emergency medicine and we need emergency, corrective, and wellness chiropractic too. "Why can't we all just get along?" (Jack Nicholson in "Mars Attacks"). Chiropractic!
chiro: The reason why we can't get along is becuase you are a quack, and quacks have no place in health care. You rip people off by duping them into paying for unsubstantiated treatments that are not based on science, but in cultism. Until you clowns embace the idea of Evidence-based practice, the public should be wary of all your claims and view them all as bogus until actually proven. Mix in some honesty and it would certainly help your case. Health Fraud!
ospreylookout, please can we be friends? I promise I won't tell anyone your a Quack if you won't let them know I misspelled vien? Oh, my good medic friend...I fear our debate has worn you so and you've become sick. Please save your energy for Disney World. Oh no, did I let the cat out of the bag? Yes, we're going to Disney World ospreylookout...you and me.
For once a chiropractic video with a typical old man patient instead of some skimpy blonde ho and sleazy elevator music in the background. For once, a REALISTIC situation where the video statistics do not show the video being most popular in sexually repressed male dominated Saudi Arabia !!
@phileustace I agree! Or a scripted video with a sleazy chiro touching a model/ hottie with skimpy, tight shorts drawn to entice the large male popluation.
Dr. Moe, This video post helped me help a patient of mine with continued shoulder pain/instablility. Thank you for this video post. You made a difference in a person who lives outside Chicagoland.
thats was shit .... at 4:03 it was the guy moving the cam and made it stuff up and you couldn't hear the crack the guys neck made :( so HAZBALLS09 you can get stuffed :)
This is nonsense. That may be the worst manual muscle testing on the planet. Then the tuning fork, haha.. is that some kind of BS muscle re-education. Bicep tendon is supported by transverse humeral ligament not the supraspinatus or infraspinatus, which are actually external rotators not extensors. This guy is a joke. This poor guy should see a PT.
Each year 225,000 Americans die from prescription drugs and medical misdiagnosis. Now who is the quack? PT is not designed to address the spine. CHIROPRACTIC!!
chiro: Here you are casting stones again at the real doctors, when you cannot even spell VEIN properly. You are a joke pal. You don't even reach the sidewalk in the vertical hall of fame when it comes to helping people. Ignorant and dishonesty are far more potent a disease than you apparently wish to admit. Where are all the studies that you keep claiming exist that support your dubious profession? Umm, they don't exist and you know it, which makes you are LIAR! QUACKERY!
chiro: What about all the cases every year where people's lives are saved by the advent of medical discoveries? Tell me one person who would trade a chiro for an MD if they ever became seriously ill. You clowns should be run out of town on the end of a boot. QUACKERY!
@hector2282 anyone whos ever taken a neurology/psychology/biology/anatomy class knows that its not bull.... the cerebellum reacts to the vibrations of the tuning fork and literally makes your muscles tighten or let up more accurately
@hector2282 I'm guessing when he said "supported by" he meant they are fixators. Not that they literally support the tendon in place, duh. Supraspinatus is not an exernal rotator, it's an abductor (aka extensor of the shoulder joint). Don't knock something without knowing about it. You look foolish and continue to dis-inform people, making society dumber.
@hector2282 Hector! Time for school! Dr. Moe is treating a "slipped biceps tendon". Most often the biceps tendon slips out of the bicipital groove medially (Dr. Moe mentioned the overly tight pectoralis muscle pulling the humerus into internal rotation). In this case, tightness of the pec was caused by weak external rotators (reflex facilitation by antagonistic pairs, a spinal cord reflex). It pays to know not only anatomy, but neurology, kinesiology and physiology. Good Luck!
it's typically a 'rotator cuff' tear (justifies surgery) or bursitis (justifies either an oral regimen of steroids to suppress the entire imune system or an injection). Thank god for the radiologist that sees a torn rotator cuff in 99% of the images even when there isn't any. Same problem with knees. It's always a torn miniscus right up to the minute the arthroscopy camera turns on and shows nada. Medicare still gets a bill for 17k.
Why don't they just do away with chiropractors since Doctors of Osteopathic medicine know more about these "adjustments" anyway..plus they can actually prescribe drugs if need be, where chiros can't do shit other than snap necks and backs and call it treatment.
"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
ur only half correct, chiropractors are relied on for joint pain, they only have 1 area of experties, bones and joints that are out of place, but people come in just cus there sore
and working on the spine and neak requires extendsive training, which some dont have... thats where horrable errors are made
trained properly they can fix the problems chiropractors are made to fix
"problems" that they can't even understand. In fact they can only act based only in personal experience and luck.
chiropractice is a scam. 2.5 billion dollars were spent in the last years in the US to verify if anything outside medical practice works better than a placebo. chiropractice, like all the rest tested: its no better than a placebo.
check it at Cochrance reviews or sciencebasedmedicine
the same has been said about acupuncture but i know for a FACT that acupuncture is proven
though they have proven u can stimulate the nerves with slight electric pulses rather then needles
anyho its a scam when it comes to muscle problems and alot of other things, they claim that it can cure all these problems THATS the scam,chiropractors ,are merely there to straighten out joints and put them in place, that DOES work
But extensive training is needed to do so safely wich not alot of them have
lol.... lol...... 1) accupuncture does not use electric pulses. it would be a complete change in all its core principles. it would not be accupuncure such method. 2) a FACT: accupuncutre does not work. go read the report. the 2.5 billion dollars had 3-10 millions of it directed to accupuncture - result: accupuncture is no better than a placebo.
as i said, you claim that chiro is to straighten joints: but peer-review trials- chiro is no better than a placebo.
jesus christ u idioyt i said the same effects can be acheived
acupuncture stimulates pressure points to relax muscles, but the same thing cabn be done with mild electric pulses in the same place
acupuncture is reccomended by modern western doctors
this HAS been provewn, though chiropractorss have much less proof
but acupuncture has been proven, the chinese explained this relaxxation by udseing the word chi (though this doesnt exist) it stimulates nerves to relax you
nope...you idiot. accupuncture is not the same as mild electric pulses. It is not. One is simple physical stimulation the other is electrical. but hey, wanna compare the 2? Cochrane reviews: NOT the same.
accupuncture is a sCAM recomended by few medical doctors. and i can garantee you there are more who know that accu is quackery than the ones who don't.
Even though you keep saying it "was proven" i am still waiting for any peer-reviewed reference to support your claim.
how accupuncture ever be proven if you failed to present any evidence to support your claims?!?!?
massage is bogus. It's the same as watching a movie or eating a good icecream at the beach! a placebo effect only.
i take it as a serious method for relaxation, not of "healing" or cure.
btw...massage in sports? lol, you should ask them: what do you prefer the super relaxing cold spray or the massage who takes longer? they will tell you.
massage IS bogus - supported by empirical evidence
professional sport players might do masage, but since the cold spray has been invented they prefer a less than a minute spray to a long long massage in order to enter the field.
where did i hear that massage is bogus? Cochrane reviews.
all that you claim about massage can be done with a pill.
lol, no i am not american. But you seem to be one. a south america one. I am european.
lol, you never went to the Cochrane....
no it does not support accupunture. i will give an example for you, because i am nice. i won't be using coch, but The clinical journal of pain. March/April 2008 - Volume 24 - Issue 3 - pp 211-218
" this study did not find evidence to support the effectiveness of true acupuncture" - review at scienceblogs or sciencebasedmedicine
your "belief" are irrelevant. what matters is the empirical evidence. you haven't presented one single peer-review or review to support any of your claims.
you haven't provided one link!!!!
let me give you one: "Deep transverse friction massage for treating tendinitis", January 21. 2002
"DTFM ... did not show consistent benefit over the control of pain, or improvement of grip strength and functional status for patients with ITBFS or for patients with ECRT."
accupuncutre does not work. go read the report. the 2.5 billion dollars had 3-10 millions of it directed to accupuncture - result: accupuncture is no better than a placebo.
you said word for word the exact same thing about chiropractors
svcience based medicine is a western site that hates all metheoods except our own and quack watck . org speaks for itself, picks apart anything that isnt customary to us
look for more sources other then a bunch of western thick dumbshits out to msake our way look best
lol..."western medicine" is the same as medicine. There is only one medical practice. the rest is all quackery, scam, frauds, they work randmoly and with completle oblivion of proper knowledge.
"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
How do you know the difference between a rotator cuff tear and a shoulder dislocation? I use to do lots of over head weights now my shoulder hurts pretty bad, i can't even work out anymore!
Does this practice harm anything other than the client's wallet and their understanding of anatomy? Thats the big question, I think. The adjustment seems relaxing, but is it as harmful in the long-term as cracking your knuckles is supposed to be?
Yes, that's good advice. If you're skeptical go in and pay the person making the claim to perform their hokum on you. Don't require the person making the claim to actually support their position...
I say if u're skeptical go make a visit to his office and see for yourself. Thats what I always do. Find out what technique he practices and visit a doctor who does that technique. Talk is cheap.
I question anyone who criticizes someone or something without knowing firsthand. Moe is an incredibly innovative and effective chiropractor. He adjusts children through professional athletes. I know of specific pros that he adjusts who were on success streaks while seeing him and not doing so well when not. Don't knock it until you've tried it - he's fabulous!
I know of specific professional athletes who wear the same underwear while they're on a winning streak. So what? Basically, Moe is the equivalent of their underwear. He's a belief system, nothing more.
Amusing to see how many dumbasses on the internet have an opinion about subjects they don't have even the most remote knowledge about. It's cute. Once you go through more than 8 years of schooling on the subject, come back and we can have an educated discussion about it :)
If there was a school for gypsy fortune tellers, you're the kind of guy who would make the exact same argument. What's going on in this video is pretty ridiculous. Basically, this "patient" needs to enter a 12-step program. Placebo Anonymous would be a good place to start.
You are entitled to your opinions but considering I'm an MD and you're not.. I can tell you what this chiropractor has stated is indeed true, regardless of his application of that knowledge. Before you open your fat uninformed mouth, try having a little knowledge on the topic, k?
Silly boy, I don't have to tell you anything. And if you really wanted me to prove it, you'd ask for my DEA number. Anyone could just pick a random doctor's office address, you dumbass. LOL
Pal, you just answered my question. You ain't an MD. Indeed, I'd be shocked if you're even a chiropractor. If you're a "doctor" of anything, then perhaps you're a doctor of love, like that old KISS song. Other than that, cut the imaginary crap.
My my, you don't handle not being able to force people to do what you want very well, do you? You go right ahead believing whatever you want little boy, I still don't have to prove myself or my degree to you. Have a nice day :)
Funny you should call me "little boy," considering I'm likely close to twice your age. But you keep right on chugging with those "MD" delusions, everybody needs a dream. My dream? I want to win the lottery and retire on a nice tranquil Montana ranch. That, and I want to appear in the next Rammstein video as an imaginary MD posting in the comments section of YouTube.
He certainly doesnt know his anatomy thats for sure. The biceps tendon is supported by the infra and supraspinatus muscles? LOL not even close. What he is doing may help the patient but he has no idea what he is actually doing.
I could see how sonic vibrations could help loosen phlegm in the sinus cavity. But aside from helping a little bit, I don't think it would be worth the effort. A nasal drain(Like a netipot or something) would be much more effective.
for any of you who think chiropractic is useless or crazy, can you explain to me why the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL require players to receive chiropractic adjustments? In the 2008 superbowl, over 200 chiropractors were brought in to give chiropractic adjustments to players.
All the great athletes have received chiropractic treatments. Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Joe Montana, Nolan Ryan, Muhammad Ali, Kareem Abdul-Jubbar, Carl Lewis, and more have received it.
First, Chiropractic isn't useless or crazy or a joke. But this guy's silly placebo-based shenanigans are. Second, that's a baldfaced lie, over 200 chiropractors weren't brought to the Super Bowl to give adjustments to players, they were there because they voluntarily traveled there to set up shop and advertise and sell their wares. Third, why have you been posting the identical post verbatim over the past several weeks in the comments second on multiple videos?
...continuation from above....the increased strength in the shoulder is held by adjusting the appropriate bone in the neck which is out of alignment and thus irritating the nerve in the first place. PS I am a big KU fan and Drew Gooden often sees a chiropractor ;)
This is a full spine chiropractor and should be avoided. Go only to upper cervical chiropractors: Atlas orthogonal, Palmer upper cervical specific, NUCCA, ICA, or Grostic. If someone says they do upper cervical ask if they do full body. .If they say yes keep looking for upper cervical only that uses x rays and instrumentation. Avoid knee-chest adjustment even if it is upper cervical. No twisting of the neck in adjustment. See video: "Dr. Gil's Upper Cervical adjustment (1) Pediatrics also.
I'm currently a 5th term Chiro student and love it. I thought it was crap until I went to one and learned more. My condition was treated and has never returned after 5 years of chronic problems. The remaining problem with Chiro is that it's not strict enough in who is accepted and it's too easy to get through. This leads to lots of bad Chiro's. Good ones are gold though and you will have your breath taken away at what they can do to help where other medicine fails.
Correct. You can't directly test shunt muscles because they're on your back. Checking the arm, apparently specifically the deltoids, is the only way to check the shunt muscles.
Please write to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, State Capitol Building, Sacramento, CA 95814 and request that he veto SB-801. You may also contribute to Californians to Protect Chiropractic Patient Rights, 1600 Sacto' Inn Way, Ste. 106, Sacto' CA 95815. Thank you for your action!
I live in Rockford IL and I have driven to Eden Prairie MN quite a few times to see Dr. Moe and so have other members of my family. He is AMAZING! He cured my chronic sinusitis with that tuning fork you're laughing at A10PANG along with other adjustments. Dr. Moe is neither deluded nor a masseuse!
Obviously you are an ignorant person martyschottenheimer. If you were able to read English I said "He cured my sinusitis with the tuning fork ALONG WITH OTHER ADJUSTMENTS!
The tuning fork is used as an indicator. Can you understand that martyschottenheimer or is a 4 syllable word beyond your comprehension.
Regarding muscular imbalances, yes, they can sometimes cause a problem to return, which means you get to solve the muscular problem. The key to good chiropractic treatment is alot like the key to good medicine; proper diagnosis that leads to correct treatment, which may be an adjustment, with or without add'l treatment, etc.
If you don't understand it how can you comment on it? The tuning fork was a method to evaluate the neurological connection between the brain and the shoulder. These nerves run up the shoulder through the neck bones and into the brain in both directions. By vibrating on the neck bones the nerves are stimulated and in turn increase conduction to the shoulder. This did not fix the problem it just caused a short term increase in the neurons to the shoulder which increased the patients strength...
Which anatomy and physiology book you reading there? Do you have some references for the sonic stimulation of nerves and cerebellum? If so, I would be interested in reading them.
"Dr." Stephen Moe's diagnosis: "So that's something very simple to show a problem that's happening but it's not just that it's other factors that created this because of an imbalance somewhere else, it created the problems your were... experiencing..." Gotta love that doctor lingo.
magic8ball78 4 months ago 2
Don't you think it would be smarter to start from the cervical spine first??? This guy has cervical spine radiculopathy, and no matter what you do he'll be back with the same issue over and over... Adjusting the neck is very scary idea in this case, what if you screw his neck??? He is not 15 yrs old!! Why not to tell ppl that bc of the discs, impulses don't get to the muscles effectively making them weak...
cartman6606 5 months ago
its larry bird
darrylhaynes 5 months ago
this video is one that should be viewed by more people - excellent content
WestPalmChiropractor 10 months ago
2:50, that guy's getting a hard on from this! Haha!
monyan8 1 year ago
@monyan8 BOIOIOIOIOINNNGGGGG!!!!!
bluedeucegooch 1 year ago
chiropracting really works!!
nshuvo 1 year ago
@EternalSkeptic8
and...no...now it's becoming evidence you are a troll....
waste of time replying to you.
transtlantic 1 year ago
@EternalSkeptic8
"fake nurse"? lol... you are hilarious.
transtlantic 1 year ago
@EternalSkeptic8
mere empty accusations. if that's your argumentation.... poor me... lolol
transtlantic 1 year ago
@EternalSkeptic8
randomly generated post? try again. loser. i pity your envy for my medical education.
maybe in your next life, loser.
transtlantic 1 year ago
I mean....I may want to drink with Moe, but.....what fucking Joke.
headlesssoldier 1 year ago
I've been watching a few of these adjustment videos and what all chiropractors seem to have in common is that they have this showmanship attitude, like getting adjusted is magic and the results are unbelievable. They're always talking and pointing out the amazing difference they're making. The power of suggestion I guess, like they have to dupe you into thinking the same 5 adjustements that take 3 minutes is worth the $. My chiropractors over the years have been like this too. Shady.
dustyleviz 1 year ago
Moe is a legend...
johnsmdm 1 year ago
pure bullshit, his using that fork like Dr mccoy would use that pulsating sensor on star trek
themetalgod21 1 year ago
@themetalgod21 - no he is using the tuning fork to demonstrate to you and others that cells respond to vibrational energy. Don't beleive me, study some biology. Cells transmit information through vibration and neurotransmitters. If cells don't vibrate then the body suffers due to lack of transmission/reception of information.
acduluth1 1 year ago
@themetalgod21 check out this pure science video on sound vibrations and the creation of matter/form. Stimulating the body with sound is actually modern medicine as well not to mention the use of laser frequencies based on the same principles. Search "Vibration creates matter dorinel2001" on youtube
acduluth1 1 year ago
moe, just give him a beer to reelax ;)
kingcobralive 1 year ago
twice w/the tuneing fork, do you feel stronger. come on doc
champcarkoolmild 1 year ago
The pop heard round the world!
thedragon5487 1 year ago
the tuning fork lol what a joke
Zujfsn 1 year ago 2
dr. Moe is a genius...
johnsmdm 1 year ago
Folks, I wish to opologize for my brother ospreylookout. His behavior though deplorable should not be used to make a final judement upon his character. Though his futile attempt to denegrate good and much necessary chiropractic care is something which doesn't lend a hand in helping the world, let's look down upon brother ospreylookout's shameful actions as a lesson for all us to reflect upon ourselves. Let's strive to do good to the world. Forgive ospreylookout for his attack upon chiropractic.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
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chiro: Germ-theory has been accepted by science for a hundred years as causing many of the diseases we have suffered from. Tell us how many of your distant relatives would have been alive long enough to spawn your parents had it not been for medical discoveries like penicillin? You are such an idiot. Fortunately, there are educated people out there, far more educated than some hack like you, who have enough sense that they do not buy into your delusions. Try some science on your CornFlakes.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
Guardian UK: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes. Now even the General Chiropractic Council has disowned the claims of the BCA the same claims that lie at the centre of its libel action against Simon Singh. In a new report, it concludes that the evidence does not support claims that chiropractic treatment is effective for childhood colic, bed-wetting, ear infections or asthma, the very claims that Singh was sued for describing as "bogus".
ospreylookout 1 year ago
ospreylookout, Oh my? I sure hope you didn't pay too much to join those anti-chiropractic medical journals? Whaa? You took out subscriptions to the anti-chiropractic journals so you can help the world fight off the chiropractic monster? Oh my, you're the noble type. But please ospreylookout, it's late. please and you should put away your anti-chiropractic action set and get some much needed sleep. Nighty night ospreylookout.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
chiro: There is no conspiracy pal, unless you are so afraid of the truth that you hide like a little deluded troll when asked to provide evidence for your outlandish claims. You claim chiros can cure infant colic? Don't be an idiot, fool! There is not one stitich of evidence for this or anything else you claim. You are nothing more than a used car salesman, with a smarmy smile and dollar signs glazing over your eyes. Come on big guy, forget the searing and insults, just provide the evidence.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
Guardian UK: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes. Now even the General Chiropractic Council has disowned the claims of the BCA the same claims that lie at the centre of its libel action against Simon Singh. In a new report, it concludes that the evidence does not support claims that chiropractic treatment is effective for childhood colic, bed-wetting, ear infections or asthma, the very claims that Singh was sued for describing as "bogus".
ospreylookout 1 year ago
chiro:It's just that people hate liars, and you epitomise what the public are concerned about--those who will sell the uneducated things that they don't need, but package it in fear and bs. It is ironic that you call yourself a "doctor" when you are such a spineless liar. How many opportunities do you need in order to admit that there is no evidence for your snake oil? Guess what Doc, the people have been smelling you for a long time and now this scandal in the UK has exposed you frauds.
ospreylookout 1 year ago
ospreypoopyonu, We need emergency medicine and we need emergency, corrective, and wellness chiropractic too. "Why can't we all just get along?" (Jack Nicholson in "Mars Attacks"). Chiropractic!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
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ospreylookout 1 year ago
chiro: The reason why we can't get along is becuase you are a quack, and quacks have no place in health care. You rip people off by duping them into paying for unsubstantiated treatments that are not based on science, but in cultism. Until you clowns embace the idea of Evidence-based practice, the public should be wary of all your claims and view them all as bogus until actually proven. Mix in some honesty and it would certainly help your case. Health Fraud!
ospreylookout 1 year ago
ospreylookout, please can we be friends? I promise I won't tell anyone your a Quack if you won't let them know I misspelled vien? Oh, my good medic friend...I fear our debate has worn you so and you've become sick. Please save your energy for Disney World. Oh no, did I let the cat out of the bag? Yes, we're going to Disney World ospreylookout...you and me.
chiropractic47 1 year ago
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DrGatza 2 years ago
For once a chiropractic video with a typical old man patient instead of some skimpy blonde ho and sleazy elevator music in the background. For once, a REALISTIC situation where the video statistics do not show the video being most popular in sexually repressed male dominated Saudi Arabia !!
phileustace 2 years ago 12
@phileustace what videos have you been looking at?
paladinvince 1 year ago
@phileustace I agree! Or a scripted video with a sleazy chiro touching a model/ hottie with skimpy, tight shorts drawn to entice the large male popluation.
coastaltrekker 1 year ago
Dr. Sterling Marlin
bluedeucegooch 2 years ago
Dr. Moe, This video post helped me help a patient of mine with continued shoulder pain/instablility. Thank you for this video post. You made a difference in a person who lives outside Chicagoland.
AuggieX1 2 years ago 2
thats was shit .... at 4:03 it was the guy moving the cam and made it stuff up and you couldn't hear the crack the guys neck made :( so HAZBALLS09 you can get stuffed :)
stacker200 2 years ago
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my chiro fingers my cock hole and then he thumps my asshole
bluedeucegooch 2 years ago
4:03
hazballs09 2 years ago
this man is a genius!.... a real pro....
johnsmdm 2 years ago
Thats not what the ducks outside his window say. Quack!
ssggleer 2 years ago
Each year medical doctors perform approx. 285,000 shoulder procedures, resulting in subsequent procedures to the same shoulder. Chiropractic !!
chiropractic47 2 years ago
fucking dumbass with the tuning fork. frauds like this shouldn't be allowed to practice
scottbaioisdead 2 years ago
Each year 225,000 Americans die under medical doctor care. Now who is the fraud?
chiropractic47 2 years ago
This is nonsense. That may be the worst manual muscle testing on the planet. Then the tuning fork, haha.. is that some kind of BS muscle re-education. Bicep tendon is supported by transverse humeral ligament not the supraspinatus or infraspinatus, which are actually external rotators not extensors. This guy is a joke. This poor guy should see a PT.
hector2282 2 years ago 45
Each year 225,000 Americans die from prescription drugs and medical misdiagnosis. Now who is the quack? PT is not designed to address the spine. CHIROPRACTIC!!
chiropractic47 2 years ago
You still have to admit that physicians have a scope of practice that carries many more risks, such as invasive surgery and life threatening illness
UFB85 2 years ago
UFB85, do you mean MD's are carrying more risk for caring for the very diseases and conditions they began in the first place?
chiropractic47 1 year ago
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ospreylookout 1 year ago
chiro: Here you are casting stones again at the real doctors, when you cannot even spell VEIN properly. You are a joke pal. You don't even reach the sidewalk in the vertical hall of fame when it comes to helping people. Ignorant and dishonesty are far more potent a disease than you apparently wish to admit. Where are all the studies that you keep claiming exist that support your dubious profession? Umm, they don't exist and you know it, which makes you are LIAR! QUACKERY!
ospreylookout 1 year ago 2
chiro: What about all the cases every year where people's lives are saved by the advent of medical discoveries? Tell me one person who would trade a chiro for an MD if they ever became seriously ill. You clowns should be run out of town on the end of a boot. QUACKERY!
ospreylookout 1 year ago
@hector2282 Dr. Moe helps PT's too. Chiropractic Now!
chiropractic47 1 year ago
@chiropractic47 Good point!
hector2282 1 year ago
@hector2282 anyone whos ever taken a neurology/psychology/biology/anatomy class knows that its not bull.... the cerebellum reacts to the vibrations of the tuning fork and literally makes your muscles tighten or let up more accurately
cmanclan101 1 year ago
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@hector2282 You are not a very bright person are you?
richie0010 1 year ago
@hector2282 I'm guessing when he said "supported by" he meant they are fixators. Not that they literally support the tendon in place, duh. Supraspinatus is not an exernal rotator, it's an abductor (aka extensor of the shoulder joint). Don't knock something without knowing about it. You look foolish and continue to dis-inform people, making society dumber.
be2008real 11 months ago
@be2008real shut up bitch
fuckcitrusheights 5 months ago
@hector2282 supraspinatus is an abductor and tunic forks are used by medics too in dermatome testing
mwain6187 10 months ago
@hector2282 Hector! Time for school! Dr. Moe is treating a "slipped biceps tendon". Most often the biceps tendon slips out of the bicipital groove medially (Dr. Moe mentioned the overly tight pectoralis muscle pulling the humerus into internal rotation). In this case, tightness of the pec was caused by weak external rotators (reflex facilitation by antagonistic pairs, a spinal cord reflex). It pays to know not only anatomy, but neurology, kinesiology and physiology. Good Luck!
shauncraig1773 10 months ago 3
can chiropractic fix the levator scapulae syndrome problem...or what kinf of treatment should be done
thebeachboy10 2 years ago
Dr. Larry and Dr. Curly were not available so they had to set for Dr. moe.
inbredagogo 2 years ago
OH I GET IT
Raginmonky 2 years ago
it's typically a 'rotator cuff' tear (justifies surgery) or bursitis (justifies either an oral regimen of steroids to suppress the entire imune system or an injection). Thank god for the radiologist that sees a torn rotator cuff in 99% of the images even when there isn't any. Same problem with knees. It's always a torn miniscus right up to the minute the arthroscopy camera turns on and shows nada. Medicare still gets a bill for 17k.
il0vgreenday 2 years ago
Why don't they just do away with chiropractors since Doctors of Osteopathic medicine know more about these "adjustments" anyway..plus they can actually prescribe drugs if need be, where chiros can't do shit other than snap necks and backs and call it treatment.
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DrJDavid 2 years ago
LOL, this video is the new "laughing" video of an entire medical class gratz mr.moe.
what an ignorance for basic neuroanatomy and physiology....
transtlantic 2 years ago 6
What makes you the expert?
BCCButters711 2 years ago
You guys give him the drugs to cover up the pain and we will fix the problem
Richard2003 2 years ago
chiropracters can't "fix" anything... maybe by mere chance, maybe...
they make gross medical errors. medicine is not just about drugs richard, i think that is obvious...
transtlantic 2 years ago
ur only half correct, chiropractors are relied on for joint pain, they only have 1 area of experties, bones and joints that are out of place, but people come in just cus there sore
and working on the spine and neak requires extendsive training, which some dont have... thats where horrable errors are made
trained properly they can fix the problems chiropractors are made to fix
jonlscott 2 years ago
"problems" that they can't even understand. In fact they can only act based only in personal experience and luck.
chiropractice is a scam. 2.5 billion dollars were spent in the last years in the US to verify if anything outside medical practice works better than a placebo. chiropractice, like all the rest tested: its no better than a placebo.
check it at Cochrance reviews or sciencebasedmedicine
transtlantic 2 years ago
the same has been said about acupuncture but i know for a FACT that acupuncture is proven
though they have proven u can stimulate the nerves with slight electric pulses rather then needles
anyho its a scam when it comes to muscle problems and alot of other things, they claim that it can cure all these problems THATS the scam,chiropractors ,are merely there to straighten out joints and put them in place, that DOES work
But extensive training is needed to do so safely wich not alot of them have
jonlscott 2 years ago
lol.... lol...... 1) accupuncture does not use electric pulses. it would be a complete change in all its core principles. it would not be accupuncure such method. 2) a FACT: accupuncutre does not work. go read the report. the 2.5 billion dollars had 3-10 millions of it directed to accupuncture - result: accupuncture is no better than a placebo.
as i said, you claim that chiro is to straighten joints: but peer-review trials- chiro is no better than a placebo.
go do a Cochrane review
transtlantic 2 years ago
jesus christ u idioyt i said the same effects can be acheived
acupuncture stimulates pressure points to relax muscles, but the same thing cabn be done with mild electric pulses in the same place
acupuncture is reccomended by modern western doctors
this HAS been provewn, though chiropractorss have much less proof
but acupuncture has been proven, the chinese explained this relaxxation by udseing the word chi (though this doesnt exist) it stimulates nerves to relax you
i know what im sayin
jonlscott 2 years ago
nope...you idiot. accupuncture is not the same as mild electric pulses. It is not. One is simple physical stimulation the other is electrical. but hey, wanna compare the 2? Cochrane reviews: NOT the same.
accupuncture is a sCAM recomended by few medical doctors. and i can garantee you there are more who know that accu is quackery than the ones who don't.
Even though you keep saying it "was proven" i am still waiting for any peer-reviewed reference to support your claim.
transtlantic 2 years ago
chiropractors yeah ok i can see why u dont beleive that
maybe ur right with chiropractors, ill give ya that
acupuncture has been proven though
but now ur saying massage uis bogus?
now i no longer take u seriously
ALL doictors take massage seriously its a proven practice through all medicle science
sports massage head massage beak massage hot stone amssage hot water massage tool massage deep tissue massage
my friend if ur sourse sais massage is bogus then give it up ur source is bogus.
jonlscott 2 years ago
how accupuncture ever be proven if you failed to present any evidence to support your claims?!?!?
massage is bogus. It's the same as watching a movie or eating a good icecream at the beach! a placebo effect only.
i take it as a serious method for relaxation, not of "healing" or cure.
btw...massage in sports? lol, you should ask them: what do you prefer the super relaxing cold spray or the massage who takes longer? they will tell you.
massage IS bogus - supported by empirical evidence
transtlantic 2 years ago
I JUST PRESENTED THEM U IDIOT
now massage is for relaxation it doesnt heal
i never claimesd for it to heal... it speeds up bloodflow which can HELP heal.
jonlscott 2 years ago
i am still waiting for any proof that it increases bloodflow....
transtlantic 2 years ago
gimme a second
ill look it up
jonlscott 2 years ago
and that increasing bloodflow "help heal"...
you don't know what peer-review means, do you? or what is the scientific method....do you?
transtlantic 2 years ago
will u shut up for half a min so i can find this shit again?
jonlscott 2 years ago
and for chiropractors its to straighten out the spinal disks, which does ework, minor adjustments over a long period of time will help
HELP NO TOTALY CORRECT IT
its like saying a massage will make the body heal completely, as chiropractory only helps so does massage
jonlscott 2 years ago
chiropractice is like massage: bogus. they relax as much as a placebo.
want how many peer-reviewes proving chiropractice as a sCAM? 1, 10 or 20?
transtlantic 2 years ago
massage is 100% real, its an ancient practice still used today on profesional sports players
where did u hear massage is bogus?
massage is the 1 thing im positive about it relaxes the muscles increases blood flow and speeds up healing because the blood flow is increased
now if ur "source" sais massage is bogus then the only bogus thing is ur source
as for acupuncture ill show u my sourxce that proves it
(keep in mind only the physical part of acupuncture is true none of the chi crap.)
jonlscott 2 years ago
professional sport players might do masage, but since the cold spray has been invented they prefer a less than a minute spray to a long long massage in order to enter the field.
where did i hear that massage is bogus? Cochrane reviews.
all that you claim about massage can be done with a pill.
transtlantic 2 years ago
Cochrane reviews is bogus i can tell u that right now
western medicine has proven the art of massage is real
jonlscott 2 years ago
Cochrane review is bogus!?!?!?! LOLOLOLOLOL
why? because you to ignorant to realize its one of the best reviews on clinical evidence that exists in the entire WORLD????
lolol, you already lost all arguments then
transtlantic 2 years ago
ok thats it ur an ignorewnt dumbshit who wont shut up long enough to ehar anouther argument
u just keep liveing in the dark enst time u feel a pain u just go get surgery done k?
ill put money on that ur american, or ur as annoying as 1
jonlscott 2 years ago
i just went onto that site
guess what it supports massage acupuncture and the chiropractic tests and still pemnding
your fukll of crap gtfo
jonlscott 2 years ago
lol, no i am not american. But you seem to be one. a south america one. I am european.
lol, you never went to the Cochrane....
no it does not support accupunture. i will give an example for you, because i am nice. i won't be using coch, but The clinical journal of pain. March/April 2008 - Volume 24 - Issue 3 - pp 211-218
" this study did not find evidence to support the effectiveness of true acupuncture" - review at scienceblogs or sciencebasedmedicine
transtlantic 2 years ago
haha, you wont be using coch
WildBillHickums 2 years ago
and want me to check pubmed? or the BMJ next?
trust me: accupuncture does not work. and chiro is one of the worst sCAMs there is....
get real
transtlantic 2 years ago
chiro i can beleive but i just read those reviews, im done ytaljking to u cus they support them
i dont care if u keep your views im just done argueing with u get back to ur own life
that website clearly states it support for amssage,
some benifits for acupuncture and test pending for chiropravtors
dont respond the arguments onver
the site clearly states those things i gave u links
the luinks diddnt post but ill ssend them again sec
jonlscott 2 years ago
your "belief" are irrelevant. what matters is the empirical evidence. you haven't presented one single peer-review or review to support any of your claims.
you haven't provided one link!!!!
let me give you one: "Deep transverse friction massage for treating tendinitis", January 21. 2002
"DTFM ... did not show consistent benefit over the control of pain, or improvement of grip strength and functional status for patients with ITBFS or for patients with ECRT."
want more?
transtlantic 2 years ago
listen the messeges arnt sending let me post links!
jonlscott 2 years ago
btw...let's not mix up physiotherapy with simple massage, that would be troublesome....
and please stop with the accupuncture quackery..... it pains me to see the spreading of nonsense....
transtlantic 2 years ago
it wont allow me to post links ffs!
jonlscott 2 years ago
ok go to google type in Cochrane review massage theres ur proof of massage
then type in cochrana review acupuncture theres ur proof of that
do the same with chiropractor and theres the proof of it still being in testing im done argueing i got other things to do bye
jonlscott 2 years ago 2
learn what is peer.review.
Cochrane reviews do not support accupuncture, chiro or massage
transtlantic 2 years ago
will you two guys just realize that u are in love with each other and just get together instead of all this silly love-play?
bigleroygym 2 years ago
accupuncutre does not work. go read the report. the 2.5 billion dollars had 3-10 millions of it directed to accupuncture - result: accupuncture is no better than a placebo.
you said word for word the exact same thing about chiropractors
i doubt ur sources
jonlscott 2 years ago
you doubt my sources? lololol, right...
National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) - check their website.
more? sciencebasedmedicine org
i cannot even start to start to doubt your sources when you don't present any of them... i can only start doubting about your intelligence...
get real: all CAM are a sCAM
transtlantic 2 years ago
i just did
by the way if ur sources claime massage is fake then there fake right there
with acupuncture and chiropractice ill listen but i have already learned from many doctors and professers that massage is a true ,method
jonlscott 2 years ago
or why not see that FACTS are actually, accupuncture or chiro are bogus:
sciencebasedmedicine org
quackwatch org
scienceblogs also have very good peer-review explanations, exposing all the quackery.
get real jon, in all of you post, no support for your claims were given
transtlantic 2 years ago
svcience based medicine is a western site that hates all metheoods except our own and quack watck . org speaks for itself, picks apart anything that isnt customary to us
look for more sources other then a bunch of western thick dumbshits out to msake our way look best
jonlscott 2 years ago
lol..."western medicine" is the same as medicine. There is only one medical practice. the rest is all quackery, scam, frauds, they work randmoly and with completle oblivion of proper knowledge.
quackwatch org exposes the quackery
i can look at NEMJ, BMJ or PUBMED. pick one
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DrJDavid 2 years ago
The power of suggestion - amazing
"You will have no strength"
*Guy's arm goes down*
awhislyle 2 years ago 9
i can do that!!!!!!!!!!
darrylhaynes 2 years ago
How do you know the difference between a rotator cuff tear and a shoulder dislocation? I use to do lots of over head weights now my shoulder hurts pretty bad, i can't even work out anymore!
ryandp04 3 years ago
Need an MRI to tell.
samblnc 2 years ago
I LOVE Dr. Moe and so does my entire family!!
KatieChee 3 years ago
i like dr moe
a217andy 3 years ago
Tuning fork! seriously.
tomazao 3 years ago
THIS MAN IS A GENIUS :)) just a cool video
bigleroygym 3 years ago
Does this practice harm anything other than the client's wallet and their understanding of anatomy? Thats the big question, I think. The adjustment seems relaxing, but is it as harmful in the long-term as cracking your knuckles is supposed to be?
heromedeiros 3 years ago
Actually, cracking your knuckles isn't particularly harmful. Doesn't lead to arthritis or anything like that.
kurpflaz 3 years ago
Are you serious hero?
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
It's true, the cracks are just little buttle of gas from your joints popping, not the bones hitting or grinding, it's harmless
leafsfan1991 3 years ago 2
Is this a real chiropractor?
Memphis35 3 years ago
Yes, that's good advice. If you're skeptical go in and pay the person making the claim to perform their hokum on you. Don't require the person making the claim to actually support their position...
SmoothJazz98 3 years ago
I say if u're skeptical go make a visit to his office and see for yourself. Thats what I always do. Find out what technique he practices and visit a doctor who does that technique. Talk is cheap.
jam0nit 3 years ago
Awesome advice jam0nit! Dr. Moe doesn't need us to defend him. His awesome abilities speak for themselves!
KatieChee 3 years ago
snake oil salesman
mrfoxthedude 3 years ago
and the duck says.........QUACK QUACK
cts12876 3 years ago
Cheesiest smile EVER at 2:06...
Oh and p.s. I would not recommend trying to do this yourself because I tried it on my girlfriend and accidentally broke her arm.
wheredidallthepeople 3 years ago
i think he is full of it.
wunderbarmom 3 years ago
rating for posting just done - definitely a 5 folks!
lifeimproves 3 years ago
I question anyone who criticizes someone or something without knowing firsthand. Moe is an incredibly innovative and effective chiropractor. He adjusts children through professional athletes. I know of specific pros that he adjusts who were on success streaks while seeing him and not doing so well when not. Don't knock it until you've tried it - he's fabulous!
lifeimproves 3 years ago
I know of specific professional athletes who wear the same underwear while they're on a winning streak. So what? Basically, Moe is the equivalent of their underwear. He's a belief system, nothing more.
drewgooden20 3 years ago
lol, well said. Nice and quite accurate analogy.
Medic88888 3 years ago
Amusing to see how many dumbasses on the internet have an opinion about subjects they don't have even the most remote knowledge about. It's cute. Once you go through more than 8 years of schooling on the subject, come back and we can have an educated discussion about it :)
DrBjamin 3 years ago
If there was a school for gypsy fortune tellers, you're the kind of guy who would make the exact same argument. What's going on in this video is pretty ridiculous. Basically, this "patient" needs to enter a 12-step program. Placebo Anonymous would be a good place to start.
pounceperks 3 years ago
You are entitled to your opinions but considering I'm an MD and you're not.. I can tell you what this chiropractor has stated is indeed true, regardless of his application of that knowledge. Before you open your fat uninformed mouth, try having a little knowledge on the topic, k?
DrBjamin 3 years ago
An MD? OK, where's your office where you have an alleged medical practice? City, state, address? Making some stuff up?
pounceperks 3 years ago
Silly boy, I don't have to tell you anything. And if you really wanted me to prove it, you'd ask for my DEA number. Anyone could just pick a random doctor's office address, you dumbass. LOL
DrBjamin 3 years ago
Pal, you just answered my question. You ain't an MD. Indeed, I'd be shocked if you're even a chiropractor. If you're a "doctor" of anything, then perhaps you're a doctor of love, like that old KISS song. Other than that, cut the imaginary crap.
pounceperks 3 years ago
My my, you don't handle not being able to force people to do what you want very well, do you? You go right ahead believing whatever you want little boy, I still don't have to prove myself or my degree to you. Have a nice day :)
DrBjamin 3 years ago
Funny you should call me "little boy," considering I'm likely close to twice your age. But you keep right on chugging with those "MD" delusions, everybody needs a dream. My dream? I want to win the lottery and retire on a nice tranquil Montana ranch. That, and I want to appear in the next Rammstein video as an imaginary MD posting in the comments section of YouTube.
pounceperks 3 years ago
He certainly doesnt know his anatomy thats for sure. The biceps tendon is supported by the infra and supraspinatus muscles? LOL not even close. What he is doing may help the patient but he has no idea what he is actually doing.
gameth 2 years ago 6
It's up there with 'ear candling'..
People who think it will work on them will convince themselves it works- Its just more new age nonsense...
TitanicExplorer 3 years ago 2
Actually is human physiology applied in a pragmatic way.
santarosadrx 3 years ago
I wonder if a tuning fork could be used for sinus problems.
warrior350es 3 years ago
Not unless you glued a box of Kleenex to it. Absurd.
pounceperks 3 years ago 2
I could see how sonic vibrations could help loosen phlegm in the sinus cavity. But aside from helping a little bit, I don't think it would be worth the effort. A nasal drain(Like a netipot or something) would be much more effective.
SkanRashke 3 years ago
for any of you who think chiropractic is useless or crazy, can you explain to me why the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL require players to receive chiropractic adjustments? In the 2008 superbowl, over 200 chiropractors were brought in to give chiropractic adjustments to players.
All the great athletes have received chiropractic treatments. Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Joe Montana, Nolan Ryan, Muhammad Ali, Kareem Abdul-Jubbar, Carl Lewis, and more have received it.
I doubt chiropractic is a crazy joke
sk82be1 3 years ago
First, Chiropractic isn't useless or crazy or a joke. But this guy's silly placebo-based shenanigans are. Second, that's a baldfaced lie, over 200 chiropractors weren't brought to the Super Bowl to give adjustments to players, they were there because they voluntarily traveled there to set up shop and advertise and sell their wares. Third, why have you been posting the identical post verbatim over the past several weeks in the comments second on multiple videos?
pounceperks 3 years ago 4
I meant the comments sections on multiple videos, not the comments second on multiple videos.
pounceperks 3 years ago 3
This is theater. Notice how Moe intentionally fakes and limits the movement when he "tries" to push.
drewgooden10 3 years ago 6
...continuation from above....the increased strength in the shoulder is held by adjusting the appropriate bone in the neck which is out of alignment and thus irritating the nerve in the first place. PS I am a big KU fan and Drew Gooden often sees a chiropractor ;)
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kobidobidog 3 years ago
Dr. Steven has abit of a beer belly.
warrior350es 3 years ago
RUBBISH
drunkenboxer123456 3 years ago
I'm currently a 5th term Chiro student and love it. I thought it was crap until I went to one and learned more. My condition was treated and has never returned after 5 years of chronic problems. The remaining problem with Chiro is that it's not strict enough in who is accepted and it's too easy to get through. This leads to lots of bad Chiro's. Good ones are gold though and you will have your breath taken away at what they can do to help where other medicine fails.
Wraethrax 4 years ago 2
what a crock-o'-shit!
teflonmagnet 4 years ago
ummmmm.....clinical reasoning.....something like that i'm sure
cstphysio 4 years ago
The deltoid is not a shunt muscle.
kevinharriet12 4 years ago
Correct. You can't directly test shunt muscles because they're on your back. Checking the arm, apparently specifically the deltoids, is the only way to check the shunt muscles.
'Least that's the way I see it.
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BackCarePlus 4 years ago
I live in Rockford IL and I have driven to Eden Prairie MN quite a few times to see Dr. Moe and so have other members of my family. He is AMAZING! He cured my chronic sinusitis with that tuning fork you're laughing at A10PANG along with other adjustments. Dr. Moe is neither deluded nor a masseuse!
KatieChee 4 years ago
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He cleared your chronic sinusitis with a tuning fork? What did he do, stick it up your nose? Get real.
martyschottenheimer 4 years ago
Obviously you are an ignorant person martyschottenheimer. If you were able to read English I said "He cured my sinusitis with the tuning fork ALONG WITH OTHER ADJUSTMENTS!
The tuning fork is used as an indicator. Can you understand that martyschottenheimer or is a 4 syllable word beyond your comprehension.
KatieChee 4 years ago
A guy cured somebody's sinusitis with a tuning fork and a neck crack. Uhhh ... OK. Whatever.
drewgooden50 3 years ago 2
i would like to know if theres a muscular imbalance, if the problem could come back again?
cabanadopaitomas 4 years ago
Regarding muscular imbalances, yes, they can sometimes cause a problem to return, which means you get to solve the muscular problem. The key to good chiropractic treatment is alot like the key to good medicine; proper diagnosis that leads to correct treatment, which may be an adjustment, with or without add'l treatment, etc.
BackCarePlus 4 years ago
You lost me with the tuning fork.
A10PANG 4 years ago 3
Boy, you're not kidding. Tuning fork. Ridiculous. Some people are just suckers, I guess.
drewgooden50 3 years ago 8
If you don't understand it how can you comment on it? The tuning fork was a method to evaluate the neurological connection between the brain and the shoulder. These nerves run up the shoulder through the neck bones and into the brain in both directions. By vibrating on the neck bones the nerves are stimulated and in turn increase conduction to the shoulder. This did not fix the problem it just caused a short term increase in the neurons to the shoulder which increased the patients strength...
bennettcl 3 years ago
You put the 'p' in "poppycock."
drewgooden20 3 years ago
Which anatomy and physiology book you reading there? Do you have some references for the sonic stimulation of nerves and cerebellum? If so, I would be interested in reading them.
Medic88888 3 years ago