As much as I love BMW's, they shouldn't be used for drifting. Drifting should be left to the JDM's, not the cars that were engineered for performance and great handling, not sliding.
The chrome trim above the windows means that the BMW is a 330ci. If this one is stock, the M3 has 100hp more (333hp) than a 330ci. 240SX has half that - 155hp!
@gdawg5420 Why are you "sorry"? I have a '93 240SX and have been planning to boost it to 7psi for 300 HP in the future. I have driven nothing but 240SX since 1997- love 'em! They _never_ break down and they look better than the 300ZX and have more interior/baggage room. I will never sell mine- even if I bought a G35 coupe (because the GTR is too ugly) or a Ferrari I would keep my SX forever.
Basscreator777 you dont have to do much to a 240 at all your buddy just failed and he sucks i drive one and i know atleast 50 ppl with them and we have no problems at alll that s13 is one of the best drift cars there is and im sure itsa got atleast and sr in it
that Bmw will out last it in the long run lol You can drift with that bmw for many years.Your prolly gonna have to replace this engine on the jdm after 4-5 year lol Piece of shit asian cars
@Basscreator777 I've owned nothing but 240SXs since 1997 ('90, '91 and '93). I never had to fix anything but a clutch master cylinder. Your friend must beat the crap out of his car!
you can drift an a/t but it's harder cause you dont have the control of the gear ratio that you want to achieve a good drift angle. with a stick shift, it all depends when to shift... depends on your speed the apex/corner but the good thing is you have the control... hope this answer your questions.
k, thanks, because all I know is that in my games I just e- brake and there we go. but I am going to drive soon and I am afraid that if I get stick I will destroy the engine.
the point of drifting is that when u drift into a corner, it allows u to maintain a higher rev that after the apex, u can launch out of the corner a lot faster when the car straightens out.
This is not only limited to D1 GP. If you want to watch some "legitimate" drifting, pull up any WRC videos and u'll see what i'm talking about.
ONLY in WRC..drifting on tarmac is just for show, you do not launch faster out of a corner when going in it sideways, you actually are slower, and taht is why you will NEVER EVER,let me repaeat that, NEVER EVER see anyone going sideways in a race, cause when they do they actually have A LOT SLOWER lap time!!!!now you can watch ANY RACE, on tarmac, and you'll see you're completely wrong :)))))
ok Jicba87, but you know wut, if sum1 who is trained at drifting is racing on tarmac and spins out, he'll be able to control it. Where as most other racers would just clenche the steeringwheel and hope they dont hit the wall.
yeah ur probably right but im just curious to know what is it is like soaking wet o.O i mean u can go into a corner faster in the wet if ur drifting (i think :P)
probably a 240sx COUPE, this wasn't filmed in europe.. and it would explain the shitty primer paint job if there was body work done... no SURE way to tell unless we have the vin numbers, but it is most likely a 240.. not a 200sx, or silvia
its a 240sx with front end conversion its an S13 coupe yea theres USDM coupes n hatches S13/Silvia/240SX/180SX all same thing except for area names thats what seperates them and slight differences between them (engine not included in slight differences)
there is not front end conversion these cars came like that , and there originally called 200sx silvia s13, the hatch was originally called a 180sx, if u dont belive me watch this.. watch?v=Zq3bDo5CxXs
NO they didnt that is a SILVIA its a 200sx s13 silvia, look at the back of that car its not a hatch like that 180sx/240sx, its a normal boot, that car is called 200sx silvia s13 you google that .... they came like that.
it's not a 200sx the 200sx is like a different version of a sentra. its just an 240sx(or s13) silvia. and the 180sx is the old datsun cars. datsun was nissan before they changed their name.
what the hell is a sentra these cars are called silvias
no buddy this car is orignally called a 200sx cause it has a 2.0 litre sr20 engine... and the 180sx was nissan not datsun cause they frist came out in 1989 and it was nissan back then.. a 180sx was a 1.8 liter ca18det engine
search silvia on wiki it gives u all the basics .............its that easy .............
Thanks for the confirmation guys, this may very well be a conversion for all I know but it still stands that Silvia is a real model name and that this car is an S13 generation vehicle. BTW, aruging aside, nice drifting!
@ 0ukami: I did see the front end conversions you were talking about as I was looking for info during the debate...very similar to the Volkswagen Mk1 front end conversions to switch from the square lights of the American-built Westmoreland Rabbits to the round European style...
You must be stupid. its a 240sx coupe with a silvia front end conversion, which is a very common conversion and not too hard to do. its pretty much the same car as the 240s your probably used to seeing. only this one is not a hatchback. same car.
Wow, reading the fight between poetic and 924, the Nissan Silvia was the Japanese S chassis badging. The s13. 14, and 15 are part of the chassis code. The S13 Had the projector style lights as well as the flip up lights. I'm pretty sure I'd know this, considering I have the Chilton's for it and there 180SX style is sitting in front of my house. It was rebadged the 240SX here is the US because of the engine. Also the S13 only had the projector style lights on the coupe after 91.
The people who keep claiming this is a Prelude are obviously blind. Besides the fact that a Prelude is FWD, I've never seen a single year of Prelude that even looked remotely like the S13 Silvia (240 SX). When has the Prelude ever had those narrow headlights??? Next thing they'll be saying it's a Supra.
the one in the video is an s14. not s13. s13's have the flip up lights. and yeah, anyone who thinks thats a prelude is retarded and needs to stab out their eyes.
Actually the flip lights were on the S12. "Following industry trends, the S13 Silvia switched to relampable fixed headlights. Projector optics were offered as an option." The S14 has more curved lights rather than the straight, narrow ones. But it's still no Prelude or Integra.
wrong. s13 all come with flip lights. thats a known fact. s14s and s15s have projector lights. i have both the manuals with me right now. and that is how everyone differentiates between the two on first sight. the s12-s13 carried flip lights no mattter what year. the s14 was the first model for the 240sx to carry projector lights. the s15 was introduced as a more luxurious s14. this is a known fact to all 240sx enthusiasts, owners, and mechanics.
No, I rescind. The car featured in the video is a Nissan Silvia S13, NOT a 240SX. This is easy to tell by viewing the tail lights, which may be where some people are getting "prelude." The American 240SX S13 has flip lights as you say, while the S14 has larger, rounded lights unlike the ones on this Silvia, and different tail lights. The Japanese Siliva S13 does NOT have flip lights, and is the car featured in this film. The Japanese Silvia S14 and the American 240SX S14 look the same.
You are correct about the lights and appearance of the American import models known as the 240SX. S13 carry flip-up headlights, while the S14 are composite. However, the Japanese models, known as the Silvia, are not the same as the import models, and this is definitely NOT an S14 because the taillights visible here and the narrow headlights were never featured on any S14, Japanese or American. This is obviously a confusing situation, but likely this car in the video is a special import.
a silvia is a nick name americans gave to the 240sx. the silvia and 240sx are the exact same thing. and the japanese s13s all carried flip ups as well. it wasnt until the s14 that it had projector head lights. the s14 was teh first ever 240sx/sylvia model to carry projectors.
Uh, NO. "Silvia" is not a nickname...it is the factory designated name for the JDM cars, which is why it is ENGRAVED in the rear fascia. The JDM S13 Silvia had standard, non-flip lights for at least some part of its lifespan, because there are pictures all over the Internet of such cars, and I have seen them for sale. And, it is what you see on this video. Not an S14. This car does not look at all like an S14 Silvia or 240SX. Period. Because it isn't one.
Even if you can't seem to understand that the S14 headlights are bigger and more rounded than the ones seen on this car, you can easily look at the tail lights and tell the difference. S13 has individual, flat tail lights as seen here. S14, whether JDM or import, have a curved single-pane light that spans the rear of the car and has a blacked-out portion in the middle, rather than part of the trunk lid painted body color as the S13 has. Please, just look it up on Google images.
I will even spell it out for you. Do a Google image search of "S13 Silvia." The first picture you should see has NON-FLIP LIGHTS. Then, type "S13 Silvia rear." Observe the tail lights which match this video. Then, repeat both of those for "S14 Silvia" and look at the huge difference between the headlights and taillights which easily distinguish these cars from each other. Maybe you will finally understand that I am not crazy.
Finally, I will explain WHY this is the case. The S13 240SX, which is the name for the North American import model, shared the bodywork of the Nissan 180SX (featuring ONLY flip lights for its ENTIRE production run), and the underpinnings of the Silvia. It NEVER had fixed headlights. EVER. On the contrary, the S13 Silvia, which is the JAPANESE HOME MARKET model, DID have fixed headlights. It NEVER had flip lights. EVER. The car in this video is a Nissan Silvia S13, NOT a 240SX. Got it?
keep telling yourself al this.but i have the manuals all right here, never was a sylvia manual. and everyone agrees that any 240sx is NICKNAMED "sylvia" and the 300ZX "fairlady Z" and why do you get so flustered jsut because you are completely wrong? who posts 4-5 tiems in response to one thing? soemone who knows he's wrong and wont admit it by throwing out fake stats that were made up on the spot. my uncle's a mechanic, my friends are tuner mechanics, and im studying to be one, i know my cars.
Guess what, my father's a mechanic who owns his own shop, I'm studying to be an automotive engineer, so I'm not sure what your point is. That doesn't qualify you. And why do you not understand?? Of COURSE you don't have a Silvia manual...the Silvia was NOT MARKETED IN THE US. So unless you have a factory Japanese manual, written in Japanese, I'm pretty sure you won't have any Silvia manuals. How do you explain the pictures I asked you to view? And the reason for my 4 posts is the word limit.
My so called "fake stats made up on the spot" are from RESEARCH, not my head. The 180SX was never sold in the US, just like the Silvia. The S13 240SX sold in the states had the flip lights of the 180SX. The S13 Silvia sold in Japan had fixed lights. Period. Plain and simple. You continue to argue a point that we both agree on. S13 240SX never had fixed lights. OK? It had flip lights. The Silvia DIDN'T. It had fixed lights. Car makers don't write "nicknames" on the back of their cars.
You may know your American-marketed cars, but you apparently have no knowledge whatsoever of Japanese home market autos, which, I'm afraid to inform you, are DIFFERENT than the ones sold here. Do you not comprehend importation? They don't sell the same things in every country. That's why we don't get cars like the "Nissan Leopard" but rather the Infiniti J-series. The Silvia (NOT "Sylvia") was MOST CERTAINLY a real, genuine, Nissan-named car, built and sold IN JAPAN ONLY. Please understand.
I'm not making this up or trying to sound awesome. It's simple facts which are readily available online, which is how I know about it. Do you think I live in Japan? I don't. I know about these things because of reading books and visiting reputable websites. I'm merely trying to point out to you that there has never, ever been an S14 Nissan of any kind that looked like the car in this video. You sound just like the people who claimed it was a Prelude. The car is an imported S13 Silvia.
Nissan's been making a car called the Silvia since 1964. It has gone through several generations and was NEVER sold in the US under the name "Silvia." Although the chassis is shared with the American 200SX and 240SX models, the name "Silvia" is not interchangeable with these export models. What you claim, would be like saying that "Bora" and "Vento" are "nicknames" given to the Volkswagen Jetta, when in reality they are other-market names. Car makers change names for different markets.
If you were a Jetta fan, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have any manuals called "Bora" or "Vento" because the US models were called "Jetta."I happen to be a VW enthusiast and I build Golfs, so I know what I'm saying there as well. I'm quite familiar with the export and European model names. I'm not sure what your point is. You don't have a Silvia manual. You shouldn't. You still can't tell me that this car is an S14 because it looks nothing like one.
Final statement in this string. "Everyone" does NOT agree that the Silvia was a made-up name...I've never, before you, heard a person make such an audacious claim. If you look at the preceding comments on this video, you will see MULTIPLE people stating that this is an "S13 Silvia." Are all those people "making up stats on the spot?" It is you, sir, who are completely wrong, and won't admit it because you completely missed the point.
plain and simple. "sylvia" was a nickname given to all imported/japanese s13's,s14's,and s15's. no car that nissan eve made carried the name "sylvia." in japan, they were still called S13 or s14 or S15 or more commonly "esu da" meaning "the S." saying "S13 sylvia" is EXACTALLY the same as saying "imported S13" or "japanese S13" plain and simple. if you cant understand that. please dont be a mechanic. i dont want you fucking up the worlds cars.
oh and btw. the "sylvias" dont say sylvia on the back. they just carry the nissan logo. if you dispute this, go die because i will no longer argue with a stubborn fool who should ahve no business with cars at all.
Well I won't argue with someone who refuses to look up the pictures on Google Images to see that, indeed, there are Silvia (please stop misspelling because it makes it look that much dumber) logos on the back of the cars. If you opened your mind to what I am saying and actually looked at what I asked you to look at, you would at least see and then maybe you would inform me what the hell those logos mean. And how do you explain those cars that aren't S14's but have fixed lights? Please explain.
And I'm pretty sure that whether I call a car a Silvia or a 240SX, I'm not going to "fuck up" the repairs. And you are obviously an idiot if you think that "automotive engineer" and "mechanic" are the same thing. Because they are not.
Finally, I asked you to explain what exactly the car in the video is according to your peculiar logic, since it is clearly NOT an S14, which is easy to tell from the front and the back. If it's not an S14, and certainly not an S15, then what is it? A one-off concept? No. It's just like the hundreds of other S13 Silvias that you can find plenty of picture of online. With FIXED LIGHTS. I want you to give me a straight answer about this.
the silvia badge is aftermarket. theres no disputing that. im done with you. you obviously know nothing about cars. you are and never were fit to become a mechanic.
It's not that I don't understand what you are saying, I just don't believe you because I have never seen anywhere in all of my research that Silvia is a nickname. You are the first person I have ever heard say that. That argument aside, this car is still an S13. This is obvious from the body shape. If you dispute THAT, then YOU, according to your own logic, are unfit to work on cars, because apparently confusion about the naming of one car makes one completely ignorant about the whole subject.
I could go on for hours about fuel/air optimization, compression ratios, residual horsepower losses, cooling efficiency, variable boost control, and any other car topic you would like to discuss. I can discuss the history of most cars on the road for hours. I am very knowledgeable in this subject because it has been my passion for most of my life. But I don't feel the need to prove my knowledge to someone as ignorant as you, who can't tell the difference between an S13 and S14 Nissan.
To 924Carrera: Actually, I think it IS a USDM 240sx with a JDM Silvia Front end conversion. The tail lights are different because it's the tail lights for the the coupe and not the fast/hatch back. Reason I say this is because I find it highly unlikely people would do a left hand drive conversion.
To poeticromance: You are 100% wrong in every way imaginable.
Yes, FWD drifting is not really true drifting, as it requires the E-brake. You can drift most RWD vehicles, without use of the E-brake. I'm not even close to a semi-professional driver, but I can "drift" my Ford Explorer...yes, an SUV...(when the 4WD is not engaged) by merely hitting the gas at the right time while making a turn...drifting. It only makes about 190 HP, and weighs a good 4000 lbs. Mind you, I'm not drifting like these guys.
Before somebody flames me for mentioning "drift", "Ford", and "SUV" in the same paragraph, I'm not saying that I drift in a racing fashion. I can slide through 90 degree turns, nothing more. I would most certainly roll my brick if I tried anything more, and besides that, it's an SUV. It's not meant for performance driving. So please don't assume I'm retarded, because I don't actually think that I'm good at drifting or that I have ever actually done it with my SUV. I'm jus sayin..RWD drifts.
agreed. im not even semi-pro either. but i can drift and snow drift and rally the piss out of my ae86 no problem. (got rear ended last night... not pimp)
it is (or one of the 3 series cars, i cant tell the difference) it has an m3 motor in it though, his name is Andy Sapp, look him up, he's an awesome driver but he got out of formula D last year and is just going to do local events.
at the end of the day anybody can drift a rear wheel drive car, even my nan, but it take skill to control and hold a slide with a front wheel drive, and if you cant do anything with it your doing it wrong, my saxo vtr has been side ways, backwards and nearly upside down it when you have seen what you have just done on video, then your happy in the fact that front wheel drive take more skill than rwd
your a fucking dumbass, drifting in a fwd car is not only gay but impossible, you can e brake and turn sharp but actual drifting is impossible unless your rear wheels are being driven. im sure im not going to change your mind and i bet you are god in a car. in fact i bet you are the best driver on earth, or mabe your pissed off you dont have rwd.
i wouldnt go so far as to say its impossible to drift fwd. You could hand brake, weight transfer or even just use the speed of the car to get sideways. Im pretty sure d1gp allowed fwd cars, only thing it doesnt allow is awd. Im not a fwd fan or anything just sayin lol
well yeah and you don't need 400 hp to drift. All you really need is a locked differential it a lot easier to maneuver. And i would bet money neither of those cars have 400 hp.
well you see front wheel drifting is called ass dragging because the rear end is being pulled or dragged by the front wheels and can only have driftw initiated by using the handbrake to lock the rear wheels up causing the rear end to slide out its more like a form of powersliding used to go around tighter cornes with a little more speed than in grip style
then your fucking retarded? not everyone is going to have perfect fucking grammar when they are cutting into a idiot like you... FWD drifting is not drifting. and a powerful FWD car feels like shit compared to a powerful RWD car
the bmw (andy sapp) is a fairly stock E46 325 with basic breathing mods. at the time this video was taken the 240 (mine) had an SR swap with an upgraded turbo.
hmm this guyy can;t tell which car is which?? coz that was not a m3 coz it will be lower and the sound is also not the same the front part of the engine and bumper is shorter in.
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guys thats an acura.. LOLL i think.. but im pretty sure. i think i can tell by the headlights. and the front that i got mixed up with a skyline.. but i dont know for sure =] loll
isnt that a 330 and not an M3
ImG0nnBeThereS0meDay 11 months ago
As much as I love BMW's, they shouldn't be used for drifting. Drifting should be left to the JDM's, not the cars that were engineered for performance and great handling, not sliding.
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JDMmarketing 1 year ago
Enough with BMW the drift king himself says don't use the BMW it's not meant to drift
xHORxNINJA18x 1 year ago
@xHORxNINJA18x no, he says you cant drift anything rwd. Just takes practice, upgrades, and the know how man.
240sxRule 1 year ago
@xHORxNINJA18x
yea but he'd probably still be the drift king if he used one
so it really doesn't matter
obviously you haven't seen the 3 series v10 that won formula d at road atlanta over an sti
gdawg5420 11 months ago
that is not a m3 thats for sure probably a 3 series but not an m3
m3e46seal 1 year ago
dude im a pro drift racer man you certainly have no idea what ur tlkng about
TheEthen09 1 year ago
typical bmw driver lol
lifesgo0d 1 year ago
The chrome trim above the windows means that the BMW is a 330ci. If this one is stock, the M3 has 100hp more (333hp) than a 330ci. 240SX has half that - 155hp!
StratMatt777 1 year ago
@StratMatt777 yea, a stock ka maybe
my buddys s14's turbo is currently running a low 5-7psi of boost and already puts out around 300hp
once he gets it retuned to higher boots, near the turbos safe limit, it'll be putting down low 400hp and will rape any bmw
sorry, fact of life
the car is lighter and has more power if its even worth drifting
gdawg5420 11 months ago
@gdawg5420 Why are you "sorry"? I have a '93 240SX and have been planning to boost it to 7psi for 300 HP in the future. I have driven nothing but 240SX since 1997- love 'em! They _never_ break down and they look better than the 300ZX and have more interior/baggage room. I will never sell mine- even if I bought a G35 coupe (because the GTR is too ugly) or a Ferrari I would keep my SX forever.
StratMatt777 11 months ago
@StratMatt777 my buddy has an '89 240sx, and i love riding in it
his is at 5 psi right now running low low 300hp
and he's gonna get it tuned up to 14 psi, he's pretty excited
gdawg5420 11 months ago
japanese people love nissan
hilary106 1 year ago
240sx is good
hilary106 1 year ago
Basscreator777 you dont have to do much to a 240 at all your buddy just failed and he sucks i drive one and i know atleast 50 ppl with them and we have no problems at alll that s13 is one of the best drift cars there is and im sure itsa got atleast and sr in it
dkbowman 1 year ago
i know the chick in the black car.. BOOM
SlazzySinder 2 years ago
performance first
jdowd22 2 years ago
thats a regular 3 series not an m3
pinappleface94 2 years ago
that 240sx is pullin off good drifts, not to pretty but she does the trick
jdowd22 2 years ago
hey as long as it drifts im good with it!!!!!!!!! haha but damn maybe just save up some money and get a decent paint job!
VEILSIDExRX7 2 years ago
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those cars are ugly as a black man and slow as hell too. stupid ricers need to be banned globally along with all gays.
provex0 2 years ago
2feeze>BMW
anth187 2 years ago
that Bmw will out last it in the long run lol You can drift with that bmw for many years.Your prolly gonna have to replace this engine on the jdm after 4-5 year lol Piece of shit asian cars
deadlyvirus 2 years ago
@deadlyvirus i agree
007700887 2 years ago
You have to do way too much stuff on a 240 to keep it running. My buddy finally gave up and sold his
Basscreator777 2 years ago
@Basscreator777 I've owned nothing but 240SXs since 1997 ('90, '91 and '93). I never had to fix anything but a clutch master cylinder. Your friend must beat the crap out of his car!
StratMatt777 1 year ago
im glad the 240 is a coupe and not a hatch, you dont see many coupes
monsterenergy0102 2 years ago
The BMW is worth like 5 times the 240sx but the 240sx still wins! LONG LIVE JDM!
64255246 2 years ago 10
fuck jdm, bmw owns everything
roytboga 2 years ago
Then go take your BMW back to Germany! Drifting is for the JDM.
64255246 2 years ago
hey guess what, were in america so fuck jdm.
roytboga 2 years ago
...and that is one of the many problems with America. *sigh* =/
64255246 2 years ago
really?
panther426 2 years ago
that's not a BMW E46 ///M3
rexflex1908 2 years ago
it's not M3 dude it has the two exausts on the side
whiskas503 2 years ago
That's not an M3. That looks like a 330ci. Still good though.
TheNerdyEngineer 2 years ago
Why is it harder to drift with an automatic? And with a stickshift when do you know when to shift
Skaterrocker842 2 years ago
you can drift an a/t but it's harder cause you dont have the control of the gear ratio that you want to achieve a good drift angle. with a stick shift, it all depends when to shift... depends on your speed the apex/corner but the good thing is you have the control... hope this answer your questions.
skunkychard 2 years ago
k, thanks, because all I know is that in my games I just e- brake and there we go. but I am going to drive soon and I am afraid that if I get stick I will destroy the engine.
Skaterrocker842 2 years ago
that is true, but my 328i auto matic has a manual mode so...
driftnut56 2 years ago
Stick shift isn't hard at all once you learn. For beginners, you should drift on second gear with the RPMs way up.
You can't do any clutch techniques when drifting with an automatic. With an automatic, you're pretty much limited to feint and handbrake drifts.
Liist 2 years ago 3
thanks
Skaterrocker842 2 years ago
when ur car is bouncing off the limiter,
timmy71 2 years ago
k, thanks
Skaterrocker842 2 years ago
nice but not DK
immexerxez 2 years ago
bmw got eaten alive, theyre not built to drift
pottysthemantis 2 years ago
I love the sound on the bmw
Deadeye990 2 years ago
me too!is perfect!
MrMuhins 2 years ago
cool cars...high modified..hehehe
jericho229 2 years ago
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these people suck at drifting
Dukester00 2 years ago
this looks like a donut show. . wow u guys really kow how to power slide . . this is why america is laughed @ when u drive like this
oc2vegas420 2 years ago
wow, look at what they have to work with
xLDxWAR 2 years ago
drifting IS to maintain speed.
the point of drifting is that when u drift into a corner, it allows u to maintain a higher rev that after the apex, u can launch out of the corner a lot faster when the car straightens out.
This is not only limited to D1 GP. If you want to watch some "legitimate" drifting, pull up any WRC videos and u'll see what i'm talking about.
jazyn310 2 years ago
but i do agree, going in circles is kinda lame. at least go touge on a course or something....
jazyn310 2 years ago
ONLY in WRC..drifting on tarmac is just for show, you do not launch faster out of a corner when going in it sideways, you actually are slower, and taht is why you will NEVER EVER,let me repaeat that, NEVER EVER see anyone going sideways in a race, cause when they do they actually have A LOT SLOWER lap time!!!!now you can watch ANY RACE, on tarmac, and you'll see you're completely wrong :)))))
Jicba87 2 years ago 2
besides rallying
morenomax 2 years ago
ok Jicba87, but you know wut, if sum1 who is trained at drifting is racing on tarmac and spins out, he'll be able to control it. Where as most other racers would just clenche the steeringwheel and hope they dont hit the wall.
4B11T 2 years ago
yeah ur probably right but im just curious to know what is it is like soaking wet o.O i mean u can go into a corner faster in the wet if ur drifting (i think :P)
105snakey105 2 years ago
drifting is da best
sickenChill 2 years ago
what in the fuck is drift racing.
LOL
teckniks 2 years ago
im guessing touge drift but they're just going in circles, so idk.
alldaygamer 2 years ago
this vid isn't actual drift racing....it's just to promote the sport... actual racing isn't just a circle
MarineC0rpsGuy 2 years ago
nothing special
hunker8 2 years ago
its not a 240 that's an s13
rAkiztA1155 2 years ago
no mamen culeros
nanayo18 2 years ago
this is damn cool.
background001 2 years ago
the back just has a key hole.. no silvia badge...
spectois 2 years ago
probably a 240sx COUPE, this wasn't filmed in europe.. and it would explain the shitty primer paint job if there was body work done... no SURE way to tell unless we have the vin numbers, but it is most likely a 240.. not a 200sx, or silvia
spectois 2 years ago
its a 240sx with front end conversion its an S13 coupe yea theres USDM coupes n hatches S13/Silvia/240SX/180SX all same thing except for area names thats what seperates them and slight differences between them (engine not included in slight differences)
DrNicca809 2 years ago
there is not front end conversion these cars came like that , and there originally called 200sx silvia s13, the hatch was originally called a 180sx, if u dont belive me watch this.. watch?v=Zq3bDo5CxXs
timmy71 2 years ago
i believe u just sayin u can convert them get ur self a clip and do sum magic
DrNicca809 2 years ago
It is a front end conversion. The car is LHD
spectois 2 years ago
LHD has nothing to do with it, if your so sure its a conversion what car did that front end come from ?
timmy71 2 years ago
The front end came off a silvia.. they just used the fenders and bumper/headlights on the stock usdm 240 front end
"Silvia Front End Conversion" google it genius
spectois 2 years ago
NO they didnt that is a SILVIA its a 200sx s13 silvia, look at the back of that car its not a hatch like that 180sx/240sx, its a normal boot, that car is called 200sx silvia s13 you google that .... they came like that.
timmy71 2 years ago
it's not a 200sx the 200sx is like a different version of a sentra. its just an 240sx(or s13) silvia. and the 180sx is the old datsun cars. datsun was nissan before they changed their name.
Omen6schecter 2 years ago
what the hell is a sentra these cars are called silvias
no buddy this car is orignally called a 200sx cause it has a 2.0 litre sr20 engine... and the 180sx was nissan not datsun cause they frist came out in 1989 and it was nissan back then.. a 180sx was a 1.8 liter ca18det engine
search silvia on wiki it gives u all the basics .............its that easy .............
timmy71 2 years ago
cool
fobiotec 3 years ago
Thanks for the confirmation guys, this may very well be a conversion for all I know but it still stands that Silvia is a real model name and that this car is an S13 generation vehicle. BTW, aruging aside, nice drifting!
924Carrera 3 years ago
@ 0ukami: I did see the front end conversions you were talking about as I was looking for info during the debate...very similar to the Volkswagen Mk1 front end conversions to switch from the square lights of the American-built Westmoreland Rabbits to the round European style...
924Carrera 3 years ago
lawl at poeticromance u suck go cut urself
firelizard007 3 years ago
its not sx 240
kodyro 3 years ago
You must be stupid. its a 240sx coupe with a silvia front end conversion, which is a very common conversion and not too hard to do. its pretty much the same car as the 240s your probably used to seeing. only this one is not a hatchback. same car.
Devius2006 3 years ago
that tis a silvia
InoxydableSteel 3 years ago
Wow, reading the fight between poetic and 924, the Nissan Silvia was the Japanese S chassis badging. The s13. 14, and 15 are part of the chassis code. The S13 Had the projector style lights as well as the flip up lights. I'm pretty sure I'd know this, considering I have the Chilton's for it and there 180SX style is sitting in front of my house. It was rebadged the 240SX here is the US because of the engine. Also the S13 only had the projector style lights on the coupe after 91.
fdviperdrifter 3 years ago 2
just moved new area
i cant watch this video Xm
19891983 3 years ago
The people who keep claiming this is a Prelude are obviously blind. Besides the fact that a Prelude is FWD, I've never seen a single year of Prelude that even looked remotely like the S13 Silvia (240 SX). When has the Prelude ever had those narrow headlights??? Next thing they'll be saying it's a Supra.
924Carrera 3 years ago
the one in the video is an s14. not s13. s13's have the flip up lights. and yeah, anyone who thinks thats a prelude is retarded and needs to stab out their eyes.
poeticromance 3 years ago
Actually the flip lights were on the S12. "Following industry trends, the S13 Silvia switched to relampable fixed headlights. Projector optics were offered as an option." The S14 has more curved lights rather than the straight, narrow ones. But it's still no Prelude or Integra.
924Carrera 3 years ago
wrong. s13 all come with flip lights. thats a known fact. s14s and s15s have projector lights. i have both the manuals with me right now. and that is how everyone differentiates between the two on first sight. the s12-s13 carried flip lights no mattter what year. the s14 was the first model for the 240sx to carry projector lights. the s15 was introduced as a more luxurious s14. this is a known fact to all 240sx enthusiasts, owners, and mechanics.
poeticromance 3 years ago
I am sorry for my error, but apparently the site where I am getting my info is very wrong.
924Carrera 3 years ago
No, I rescind. The car featured in the video is a Nissan Silvia S13, NOT a 240SX. This is easy to tell by viewing the tail lights, which may be where some people are getting "prelude." The American 240SX S13 has flip lights as you say, while the S14 has larger, rounded lights unlike the ones on this Silvia, and different tail lights. The Japanese Siliva S13 does NOT have flip lights, and is the car featured in this film. The Japanese Silvia S14 and the American 240SX S14 look the same.
924Carrera 3 years ago
You are correct about the lights and appearance of the American import models known as the 240SX. S13 carry flip-up headlights, while the S14 are composite. However, the Japanese models, known as the Silvia, are not the same as the import models, and this is definitely NOT an S14 because the taillights visible here and the narrow headlights were never featured on any S14, Japanese or American. This is obviously a confusing situation, but likely this car in the video is a special import.
924Carrera 3 years ago
If there is any more question, do a simple google image search of "nissan silvia s13 rear" and you will see exactly what I am talking about.
924Carrera 3 years ago
a silvia is a nick name americans gave to the 240sx. the silvia and 240sx are the exact same thing. and the japanese s13s all carried flip ups as well. it wasnt until the s14 that it had projector head lights. the s14 was teh first ever 240sx/sylvia model to carry projectors.
poeticromance 3 years ago
Uh, NO. "Silvia" is not a nickname...it is the factory designated name for the JDM cars, which is why it is ENGRAVED in the rear fascia. The JDM S13 Silvia had standard, non-flip lights for at least some part of its lifespan, because there are pictures all over the Internet of such cars, and I have seen them for sale. And, it is what you see on this video. Not an S14. This car does not look at all like an S14 Silvia or 240SX. Period. Because it isn't one.
924Carrera 3 years ago
Even if you can't seem to understand that the S14 headlights are bigger and more rounded than the ones seen on this car, you can easily look at the tail lights and tell the difference. S13 has individual, flat tail lights as seen here. S14, whether JDM or import, have a curved single-pane light that spans the rear of the car and has a blacked-out portion in the middle, rather than part of the trunk lid painted body color as the S13 has. Please, just look it up on Google images.
924Carrera 3 years ago
I will even spell it out for you. Do a Google image search of "S13 Silvia." The first picture you should see has NON-FLIP LIGHTS. Then, type "S13 Silvia rear." Observe the tail lights which match this video. Then, repeat both of those for "S14 Silvia" and look at the huge difference between the headlights and taillights which easily distinguish these cars from each other. Maybe you will finally understand that I am not crazy.
924Carrera 3 years ago
Finally, I will explain WHY this is the case. The S13 240SX, which is the name for the North American import model, shared the bodywork of the Nissan 180SX (featuring ONLY flip lights for its ENTIRE production run), and the underpinnings of the Silvia. It NEVER had fixed headlights. EVER. On the contrary, the S13 Silvia, which is the JAPANESE HOME MARKET model, DID have fixed headlights. It NEVER had flip lights. EVER. The car in this video is a Nissan Silvia S13, NOT a 240SX. Got it?
924Carrera 3 years ago
keep telling yourself al this.but i have the manuals all right here, never was a sylvia manual. and everyone agrees that any 240sx is NICKNAMED "sylvia" and the 300ZX "fairlady Z" and why do you get so flustered jsut because you are completely wrong? who posts 4-5 tiems in response to one thing? soemone who knows he's wrong and wont admit it by throwing out fake stats that were made up on the spot. my uncle's a mechanic, my friends are tuner mechanics, and im studying to be one, i know my cars.
poeticromance 3 years ago
Guess what, my father's a mechanic who owns his own shop, I'm studying to be an automotive engineer, so I'm not sure what your point is. That doesn't qualify you. And why do you not understand?? Of COURSE you don't have a Silvia manual...the Silvia was NOT MARKETED IN THE US. So unless you have a factory Japanese manual, written in Japanese, I'm pretty sure you won't have any Silvia manuals. How do you explain the pictures I asked you to view? And the reason for my 4 posts is the word limit.
924Carrera 3 years ago
My so called "fake stats made up on the spot" are from RESEARCH, not my head. The 180SX was never sold in the US, just like the Silvia. The S13 240SX sold in the states had the flip lights of the 180SX. The S13 Silvia sold in Japan had fixed lights. Period. Plain and simple. You continue to argue a point that we both agree on. S13 240SX never had fixed lights. OK? It had flip lights. The Silvia DIDN'T. It had fixed lights. Car makers don't write "nicknames" on the back of their cars.
924Carrera 3 years ago
You may know your American-marketed cars, but you apparently have no knowledge whatsoever of Japanese home market autos, which, I'm afraid to inform you, are DIFFERENT than the ones sold here. Do you not comprehend importation? They don't sell the same things in every country. That's why we don't get cars like the "Nissan Leopard" but rather the Infiniti J-series. The Silvia (NOT "Sylvia") was MOST CERTAINLY a real, genuine, Nissan-named car, built and sold IN JAPAN ONLY. Please understand.
924Carrera 3 years ago
I'm not making this up or trying to sound awesome. It's simple facts which are readily available online, which is how I know about it. Do you think I live in Japan? I don't. I know about these things because of reading books and visiting reputable websites. I'm merely trying to point out to you that there has never, ever been an S14 Nissan of any kind that looked like the car in this video. You sound just like the people who claimed it was a Prelude. The car is an imported S13 Silvia.
924Carrera 3 years ago
Nissan's been making a car called the Silvia since 1964. It has gone through several generations and was NEVER sold in the US under the name "Silvia." Although the chassis is shared with the American 200SX and 240SX models, the name "Silvia" is not interchangeable with these export models. What you claim, would be like saying that "Bora" and "Vento" are "nicknames" given to the Volkswagen Jetta, when in reality they are other-market names. Car makers change names for different markets.
924Carrera 3 years ago
If you were a Jetta fan, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have any manuals called "Bora" or "Vento" because the US models were called "Jetta."I happen to be a VW enthusiast and I build Golfs, so I know what I'm saying there as well. I'm quite familiar with the export and European model names. I'm not sure what your point is. You don't have a Silvia manual. You shouldn't. You still can't tell me that this car is an S14 because it looks nothing like one.
924Carrera 3 years ago
Final statement in this string. "Everyone" does NOT agree that the Silvia was a made-up name...I've never, before you, heard a person make such an audacious claim. If you look at the preceding comments on this video, you will see MULTIPLE people stating that this is an "S13 Silvia." Are all those people "making up stats on the spot?" It is you, sir, who are completely wrong, and won't admit it because you completely missed the point.
924Carrera 3 years ago
plain and simple. "sylvia" was a nickname given to all imported/japanese s13's,s14's,and s15's. no car that nissan eve made carried the name "sylvia." in japan, they were still called S13 or s14 or S15 or more commonly "esu da" meaning "the S." saying "S13 sylvia" is EXACTALLY the same as saying "imported S13" or "japanese S13" plain and simple. if you cant understand that. please dont be a mechanic. i dont want you fucking up the worlds cars.
poeticromance 3 years ago
oh and btw. the "sylvias" dont say sylvia on the back. they just carry the nissan logo. if you dispute this, go die because i will no longer argue with a stubborn fool who should ahve no business with cars at all.
poeticromance 3 years ago
Well I won't argue with someone who refuses to look up the pictures on Google Images to see that, indeed, there are Silvia (please stop misspelling because it makes it look that much dumber) logos on the back of the cars. If you opened your mind to what I am saying and actually looked at what I asked you to look at, you would at least see and then maybe you would inform me what the hell those logos mean. And how do you explain those cars that aren't S14's but have fixed lights? Please explain.
924Carrera 3 years ago
And I'm pretty sure that whether I call a car a Silvia or a 240SX, I'm not going to "fuck up" the repairs. And you are obviously an idiot if you think that "automotive engineer" and "mechanic" are the same thing. Because they are not.
924Carrera 3 years ago
Finally, I asked you to explain what exactly the car in the video is according to your peculiar logic, since it is clearly NOT an S14, which is easy to tell from the front and the back. If it's not an S14, and certainly not an S15, then what is it? A one-off concept? No. It's just like the hundreds of other S13 Silvias that you can find plenty of picture of online. With FIXED LIGHTS. I want you to give me a straight answer about this.
924Carrera 3 years ago
the silvia badge is aftermarket. theres no disputing that. im done with you. you obviously know nothing about cars. you are and never were fit to become a mechanic.
poeticromance 3 years ago
It's not that I don't understand what you are saying, I just don't believe you because I have never seen anywhere in all of my research that Silvia is a nickname. You are the first person I have ever heard say that. That argument aside, this car is still an S13. This is obvious from the body shape. If you dispute THAT, then YOU, according to your own logic, are unfit to work on cars, because apparently confusion about the naming of one car makes one completely ignorant about the whole subject.
924Carrera 3 years ago
I could go on for hours about fuel/air optimization, compression ratios, residual horsepower losses, cooling efficiency, variable boost control, and any other car topic you would like to discuss. I can discuss the history of most cars on the road for hours. I am very knowledgeable in this subject because it has been my passion for most of my life. But I don't feel the need to prove my knowledge to someone as ignorant as you, who can't tell the difference between an S13 and S14 Nissan.
924Carrera 3 years ago
To 924Carrera: Actually, I think it IS a USDM 240sx with a JDM Silvia Front end conversion. The tail lights are different because it's the tail lights for the the coupe and not the fast/hatch back. Reason I say this is because I find it highly unlikely people would do a left hand drive conversion.
To poeticromance: You are 100% wrong in every way imaginable.
0ukami 3 years ago 2
uh huh you wish.
poeticromance 3 years ago
yea thats a 330ci not an m3
ssully21 3 years ago
doesn't matter how much power, all you need to know is how to handle the car (RWD*).
theres a funny vid of some of the top drifters (NA and JAP) taking turns drifting a miata.
nleboe 3 years ago
Yes, FWD drifting is not really true drifting, as it requires the E-brake. You can drift most RWD vehicles, without use of the E-brake. I'm not even close to a semi-professional driver, but I can "drift" my Ford Explorer...yes, an SUV...(when the 4WD is not engaged) by merely hitting the gas at the right time while making a turn...drifting. It only makes about 190 HP, and weighs a good 4000 lbs. Mind you, I'm not drifting like these guys.
924Carrera 3 years ago
Before somebody flames me for mentioning "drift", "Ford", and "SUV" in the same paragraph, I'm not saying that I drift in a racing fashion. I can slide through 90 degree turns, nothing more. I would most certainly roll my brick if I tried anything more, and besides that, it's an SUV. It's not meant for performance driving. So please don't assume I'm retarded, because I don't actually think that I'm good at drifting or that I have ever actually done it with my SUV. I'm jus sayin..RWD drifts.
924Carrera 3 years ago
agreed. im not even semi-pro either. but i can drift and snow drift and rally the piss out of my ae86 no problem. (got rear ended last night... not pimp)
nleboe 3 years ago
but i think thats a honda prelude and no 240 sx :P
but nice vid^^
CleeStyla 3 years ago
Preludes are FWD, thats a 240... Besides, you think a Prelude could deal with those wheels at the offset? Yeah right!
RaceMeMZ3 3 years ago
that looks like a 330ci.
romeie16 3 years ago
it is (or one of the 3 series cars, i cant tell the difference) it has an m3 motor in it though, his name is Andy Sapp, look him up, he's an awesome driver but he got out of formula D last year and is just going to do local events.
Shockershooter333 3 years ago
nice vid son..i cant tell who won..that m3 waz a HOT piece of sex tho
krawln8 3 years ago
at the end of the day anybody can drift a rear wheel drive car, even my nan, but it take skill to control and hold a slide with a front wheel drive, and if you cant do anything with it your doing it wrong, my saxo vtr has been side ways, backwards and nearly upside down it when you have seen what you have just done on video, then your happy in the fact that front wheel drive take more skill than rwd
mongoose316 3 years ago
your a fucking dumbass, drifting in a fwd car is not only gay but impossible, you can e brake and turn sharp but actual drifting is impossible unless your rear wheels are being driven. im sure im not going to change your mind and i bet you are god in a car. in fact i bet you are the best driver on earth, or mabe your pissed off you dont have rwd.
93sx 3 years ago
i wouldnt go so far as to say its impossible to drift fwd. You could hand brake, weight transfer or even just use the speed of the car to get sideways. Im pretty sure d1gp allowed fwd cars, only thing it doesnt allow is awd. Im not a fwd fan or anything just sayin lol
dozedrift 3 years ago
sick as fuck
MPLFoster 3 years ago
It's not an M3, that's Andy Sapps 330... I drifted with him at NOPI's drift fury ST.Louis event.
jayhawkjoe 3 years ago
many diff ways basic is the E brake and power try to have more than 400hp atleast
hattrickboy 3 years ago
can i drift my car with automatic?
thanhphamatl 3 years ago
its harder and pointless might aswell find
a decent 240sx manual and start from there.
hattrickboy 3 years ago
well yeah and you don't need 400 hp to drift. All you really need is a locked differential it a lot easier to maneuver. And i would bet money neither of those cars have 400 hp.
aneier 3 years ago
yeah for about 3 seconds before it shifts gears and you crash
JamaicanBoy41 3 years ago
sweet video!
JoeDaNuke 3 years ago
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It's really hard to do if your car isn't FWD.
52748 3 years ago
uh no try RWD buddy.
JHAV5589 3 years ago
Uh FWD is my prefrence, pal.
52748 3 years ago
you sir 52748 are a retard you can't drift with a FWD. What you call drifting in FWD is realy just called "ass dragging"
JamaicanBoy41 3 years ago
And drifting in a RWD is called "ass pushing?"
52748 3 years ago
well you see front wheel drifting is called ass dragging because the rear end is being pulled or dragged by the front wheels and can only have driftw initiated by using the handbrake to lock the rear wheels up causing the rear end to slide out its more like a form of powersliding used to go around tighter cornes with a little more speed than in grip style
JamaicanBoy41 3 years ago
Spell check please, I don't even understand what you are trying to say.
52748 3 years ago
then your fucking retarded? not everyone is going to have perfect fucking grammar when they are cutting into a idiot like you... FWD drifting is not drifting. and a powerful FWD car feels like shit compared to a powerful RWD car
nleboe 3 years ago
no its called drifting!
drewce123 3 years ago
how do u prefer FWD?
u cant do anything with it.
XxilikesoupxX 3 years ago
You can drift.. =x
52748 3 years ago
no u cant.
XxilikesoupxX 3 years ago
Ok the front wheels pull the back wheels when you make a sharp turn, creating a drif. You just have to have to accelerate at the right time.
52748 3 years ago
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You need alot of HP. You go into a turn, hit the E brake and once your tires start to skid, shift up.
52748 3 years ago
with a stick, E brake, Power Slide lol and dont think u need allot just dont fuc ur car up if its a piece of sh11t
13lackside 3 years ago
i wonder if we would smell burnt rubber at a drifting place:P
furrycar 3 years ago
not M3, the driver is hella cool tho
e46bud 3 years ago
Fuck you willski12....HATERRRRR!!!!!!!!
JESUSAKAHAVIT 3 years ago
the bmw (andy sapp) is a fairly stock E46 325 with basic breathing mods. at the time this video was taken the 240 (mine) had an SR swap with an upgraded turbo.
icantdrift 3 years ago
its a 325
PinkSlut200sx 3 years ago
thts an s13
shikabogo 3 years ago
thats a 330, not m3
newyorkzplayas 3 years ago
w0wthisisfunny123 i cant believe what i c. aaa WHAT? a 330ci??
Noi5eB0mb 3 years ago
fuck you thats not an m3 its a vw golf van
willski12 3 years ago
Yea that's definatly a Silva S13.
fr33muffins 3 years ago
m3 killd it bro
5h41d 3 years ago
fuck your all stupid
its a silvia s13
and a m3
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iXheartXrainbows16 3 years ago
i hope you guys are kidding becuase that is a bmw and that is a silvia lol
paintbalr 3 years ago 2
yo thats a 330 ci...not an m3
w0wthisisfunny123 3 years ago
hmm this guyy can;t tell which car is which?? coz that was not a m3 coz it will be lower and the sound is also not the same the front part of the engine and bumper is shorter in.
83willz83 3 years ago
drifting is so easy 2 me
emo2o2 3 years ago
then you should be in d1gp =)
dozedrift 3 years ago
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guys thats an acura.. LOLL i think.. but im pretty sure. i think i can tell by the headlights. and the front that i got mixed up with a skyline.. but i dont know for sure =] loll
VinceShanari 3 years ago
that is a SILVIA PS13!!!!!
FlameEntertainment 3 years ago 4
thats not a fuckin 240sx learn about cars man its a fuckin prelude dude
guillaume9219 3 years ago
yeah no shit, was gonna say...
thedaneurysm 3 years ago
haha prelude
ur an idiot HOWS the prelude suddenly RWD
thats a nissan silvia s13
crazyviolent69 3 years ago 7
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its a fucking corvette!!!!
earlbarker 3 years ago
youre a fucking idiot!!!! jk
sampatton90 3 years ago