Hongkong doesnt need any protection from the so called party, however, given the fact that both HK and PRC have a bilateral relations, the hongkong gov can still have agreements on certain deals based on the needs of economy's development.Hk as the intl financial center, on this issue, can help RPC to achieve the aim of the offshore RMB market, this is a very good deal, by regarding this role, the PRC can't give up HK easily.
I would say Hongkong is a Polis not a country, where enjoys her independence of politics and economics, the most important thing is, that hongkong people can get the right of vote back.
If China collapse (hopefully), Far east will be very peaceful and truly prosperous. There will be Independent Hong Kong, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia Tibet and East Turkestan. Rest of the mainland may choose a more human oriented regime like Taiwan. Communism will be history. Hong Kongers are brave and smart they should never give up idea of independence without bloodshed. Long live Far East's Democracy Heros.
Our Government rejected a e-petition in it's web site asking the Government to request the Chinese to agree to let HK to hold referendum on whether Hong Kong to return to the UK.
Seems that our Government don't want any upset in Chinese government or destroy relationship with China. 1984 treaty forbids such a return to British rule nor such a referendum, that's why Her Majesty's Government had rejected it!
@Alexinmy To start a revolution would mean the real end of Hong Kong cos of Chinese law that will allow the PLA to crush any uprising, arrest uprising leaders and take them to Chinese prisons. The Chinese will also suspend basic law and impose martial laws until HK return to normal.
So far there are still no uprisings, only protests permitted under basic law. Hong Kongers felt uprising is the last thing they want with the PLA keeping watch so not to do anything.
@dicksion0040 If the British were not there, do you think the Mainlanders would have done ANYTHING to protect the people of that 'nameless' region? No. The British held off the Japanese, but they could not span their forces to fight TWO fronts. Against the German enemies, and now the Japanese, half-way across the world. Could you have done any better? If it weren't for the surrender on Christmas day, the Japanese would have bombed HK to nothing.
@dicksion0040 Do you think the British WANTED to surrender? They were put in Camps and starved to death. Many of those who stepped in never stepped back out alive. At least they let themselves be captured left us HKers to free-roam HK. We all, British and Hong Kong Chinese sacrificed something for our next generation to survive. China could have done no better. During the raid of HK, Canton was already taken by the Japanese. Do not think that YOUR people could have done any better than us HKers.
@dicksion0040 你不是故意歪曲歷史就是對歷史一竅不通，二戰期間，英軍竭盡所能對抗日軍，惟英日兩軍數量懸殊，且香港地形無險可守，香港最終失守只是早晚的事，乃意料之中。出乎所料的是，英加聯軍在香港一役，拋頭顱灑熱血，數千英加烈士捨命為香港從日軍手中替香港爭回近一個月的自由。You are either ignorant of Hong Kong history or attempt to distort it. In fact, during the WWII, the British Hong Kong Garrison did its level best to fight against the Japanese troops. The British HK Garrison eventually surrendered, because they were outnumbered by their Japanese counterparts, and the Hong Kong territory is geographically undefensable.
@HongKongIndependence Not only British but Canadian troops did tried to defend HK against the Japs but they were unable to stop them and most who had been surrendered were being massacred - some went to work on railway lines, denying them medical treatments. Most died in POWs or at railway lines.
According to a story an ambulance crew tried to surrender but the Japs killed them including the patients inside.
@HongKongIndependence Not only British but Canadians too - don't forget that - According to history - Japanese troops captured a hospital in HK in 1941 where many Canadian wounded are kept in. They bayoneted wounded soldiers in beds to death, sometimes shooting them. Terrible story.
You are right, They were unable to stop the Japanese cos they attacked just a few hours after the Pearl Harbour raid. They were well organised than the British.
@dicksion0040 Canada never fought a war of Independence. Only the United States of America fought a war of Independence, Canada signed a treaty with the British, and so did Australia, to become Independent Countries, and to also continue to recognise the (King or) Queen of England to be their Monarchy.
言下之意，您已坦承教唆他人(我們)犯罪，即教唆我們暴力對待他人(中國)，我們要向中國公安部與香港警方舉發您的罪行。In other words, you have already admitted that you are abetting others (us) to commit a criminal offense, that is, you are abetting us to use violence against others (China). We are going to report your criminal act to the Chinese Police and the Hong Kong Police.
@dicksion0040 You may also think that HK should not bare arms or become violent in order for their future to be attained, but it should be noted, that examples such as India should not be brought up. China is NOTHING like Britain, and they will not show mercy to us HKers, nor to its own Mainlanders, as shown in the Tiananmen Massacre of 1989. It is all or nothing for us HKers. We will be heard. Beijing cannot stop HK.
@dicksion0040 言下之意，您已坦承教唆他人(我們)犯罪，即教唆我們暴力對待他人(中國)，我們要向中國公安部與香港警方舉發您的罪行。In other words, you have already admitted that you are abetting others (us) to commit a criminal offense, that is, you are abetting us to use violence against others (China). We are going to report your criminal act to the Chinese Police and the Hong Kong Police.
@desmondwkyip Indeed. HKers just haven't looked around the corner. Their constant marching does not affect Beijing. They won't change their minds. What will they do to HK after that '50 years'? I can dare say, they can do anything to HK. In fact, they're already tresspassing on their 'One Country, Two System' rule as well as breaking many points on the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984. Taiwan's Official already noted that CCP have already broken many of their promises.
@MrMarcocaofanhua this question was answered by Hong Kong's famous writer Chip Tsao years ago. Chip Tsao's answer can be summarized with two sentences: "China is not democratic and merciless to its people, but the UK is democratic and humane." Also, under the British, they were not slaves. They didn't need universal suffrage because the Britons were the ones teaching HK how to become democratic. China, is nothing. Face the facts. Pre-97 HK will always be better than After-97. Unless we step in.
@freecantonia True. But we must try. Look at it this way. If we try, we have *A* chance of getting Independence, and giving our children a better life. But if we just sit around, we're just staring death in the eyes and waiting for him to swallow Hong Kong whole in around 30 years.
Say what you want. You are all afraid of us, which is why all you can think of are insults, and negative comments.
Like I said, if any of you can find 'Hong Kong' on a world map, or map of China prior to British take over, then we will discard our movement, because that truly means China always ruled Hong Kong. But, realistically, China NEVER had control of Hong Kong, it was not 'invented' nor 'named' back then, therefore, this 'Hong Kong' was the creation of the British, NOT the CCP.
You're the only 'Traitor'. Who brought up Hong Kong? British. Who started the riots of 1967? Communists. Who to blame? Communist China, who to respect and thank for the 155 years of happiness? Britain.
Get your facts straight, I am no traitor, those who stand with us, are loyalists, and those who stand against us are the traitors. We do not want a British Colonial Hong Kong. We want an Independent Hong Kong Republic. Get things straight.
You are a traitor to your country. most Hong Kong people love China. United we are stronger, and Chinese all around the world should stand together to fight off our enemies. 155 years of happiness? No such imperialism is happy. Those arrogant Brits are assholes and deserved to be bombed back then by Chinese brothers. CHINESE UNITY FOREVER!
It only started in 1997. I love, and respect the United Kingdom, but I do not agree that Hong Kong should return to British rule, I never have said that, I stated that Hong Kong should become an Independent, sovereign state, and a Republic. Hong Kongers rule Hong Kong.
If any of you Pro-CCP people out there, can find a map prior to 1842 that shows, states, and says that 'Hong Kong/香港' Was listed ON the map, or listed as a city, then you win.
Other than that, Hong Kong was NEVER a city of China, it was a Colony to Britain, and was named Hong Kong/香港 BY Britain. All your ignorant comments will be marked as spam if it contains uneccessary language usage.
What you say, can also be accounted for as 'deceptively false'.
You cannot say that mine is false, as I do have supporters that originate and still do live in HK today. You speak for yourself, I speak for those who follow this movement.
Please don't use that type of language. Thank you.
The reason for the Union Jack is to show that Hong Kong is part of the Commonwealth if the Independence of Hong Kong succeeds. Do not underestimate us. Also, there was no reason for Universal Suffrage in British Hong Kong because everything was going well, and everyone did not want to object. But look at Hong Kong SAR now, was there THAT much (crap) parties in BHK? No. The restless HKers in HKSAR want change.
They just do not realise, that the change they want, lies in Independence, and not the parties they create. Beijing certainly will not bow to HKers. It is pretty obvious what will happen. And Indeed you are correct, there was no Referendum in BHK, but everyone was happy. Yes, true, BHK deserved an Independence Referendum, but the fact is that that feel and urge to have one, still exists, because what was apparently worse (BHK) became more worse (HKSAR).
Well, as a chinese myself, I'm in favor of a rederendum for HK's Independence. However, even if this actually do occur, the chances are low.
What I'm hoping to see it's a unified , democratic China. HK is perfect to serve as a stronghold for democracy...mayb im just dreaming. Those so called crap parties i guess you meant pro-beijing parties =S there is a reason why they are there, and they are quite influential nowadays.
So good on ya mate, i doubt that the day will come, dnt give up tho.
Thank you for your good wishes. I also want to say, 'Unification' is a lie by the Communists. It is a mere term used by the CCP to make us Chinese subject to them so they can keep their power. To me, the Chinese are already unified. As a race, we CANNOT be seperated. We are ONE race, and one ethnicity, nothing can split that. We were, are, and always will be unified. 'One Country, Two System' has never existed in Hong Kong, and Macau, and neither will it exist between Taiwan and Mainland China.
Here is my suggestion, and proposal to all Chinese:
中, 港, 台.
一華, 三國.
Direct translation:
China, Hong Kong, Taiwan
One Chinese(Race), Three Nations/Countries
Supports my statement of as a Chinese, we are and always will be unified. As ONE race, under three nations/countries.
Sound like a better idea? Because from what reality looks like now, 'Unified China' or 'Unification' means expansion of the Chinese territory. Which is for their own CCP power-greed. not us, the Chinese.
I actually prefer some sort of federation, or some sort of union based on EU, common market, common tariff etc
youre idea works for me, but you probs wont find much supporters in todays China. I'm quite worried about the spread of militarism and extreme nationalism in mainland China, very dangerous trend.
The collapse of CCP requires a series of catastrophic events, it comes at a too high cost. Although Im quite anti-ccp, but a peaceful transformation to democracy is more or less day dreaming
That could work, provided no Asian countries see China as a threat, especially the massive bulk military buil-dup they're having. And their little competition with the US. That is exactly what I say, Nationalism and Patrioticism, can only go so far. It shouldn't blind people from what is RIGHT and what is WRONG. Sure, we Chinese HAVE been humiliated, but you don't see the enslaved blacks rise up and attempt to kill all whites, or build a bigger military to threaten them.
It makes it worse for both ethnicities. The Chinese have to keep their heads up, and stand against those who are wrong, and not to go full-force nationalism. That will destroy us. Right now, China is strong, and powerful. Sure, that's a good achievement by them, but the fact they achieved it in a WRONG way, and is still committing crimes, is what makes it bad for Chinese to side with them.
My grandmother told me today she heard that on Mainland China, someone on a motorcycle got bumped by someone behind him in a car. He reported it to the police and they were brought to the department. The guy in the car was a rich guy, and the one on the motorcycle was moderate. The bribes the officers into arresting the victim and then they said he was continually beaten up by the police. The father could not bare to see it, and was doing all he could do to help him, but did not succeed.
The father then committed suicide, and when the son was released, he was in deep depression. Now tell me, what kind of lawless country is that? If I were the US, I would NOT let a country like that meddle with world affairs. It is unacceptable that the victim looses more than he is suppose to gain. It's unjust, and China will NEVER succeed and gain support from us HKers and Westerners as long as they have this corruptive government and justice system. It is something they need to fix.
Notice my friend, mainlander is not a race (unless you say Hk and mainland is 2 diff race, then Hk should go independent). If you want to charge me for hate crime, good luck. And i thought those videos are very funny and since most of them r from the news; its just a good reflection of Hk society.
Correction, it is a portion of "the Chinese from China", esp ppl habiting in the west, enjoying western product and go ranting how good CCP is but not willing to return. In fact, i honestly think they should change who mainlanders applied to, really should designated to the above groups than generalize it on all Chinese from China. Cuz I know quite a few Chinese of China smarter than most Hkers and definitely more desering to being Hker than you.
@Balencian, what is wrong with Chinese people living overseas to love their country? Irish Americans supported their Catholic brethren in Ulster, Jew for Israel, Arab Americans for the palestinain cause etc. If they use the rules you propose, then many Americans wouldn't become Americans. LOL!
You are the guy who was ranting that HKI and I are not true Hker for not being in Hong Kong. Now you go defend yourself for hiding in france? (I honestly love your double standard, i guess you really see nothing wrong in your logic)
Are you in you little wonderland? I just debunked you as a guy hiding in France. You didn't debunked anything other than proving to me that you are a hypocrite. Btw, under Hk laws, anyone with a HKid is a hk citizen, and if both parents are born in HK, their child will inherit the right to be a hker by birth. So HKI is a hker, unless you go to beijing and beg your CCP master to force HK gov to change the law.
@Balencian, I am posting back to you from a hotel near Gatwick Airport in London, so now you debunked me as hiding in UK? LOL! HKI called himself a Hong Kongese. Ahahahahaha!
Which is even worse, you are hiding in the country you hated so much.
Btw, what's so funny, you just tell me HKI says he is a hker? Is that suppose to be that funny to you? Cuz you just back up his claim when trying to discredit it.
@Balencian, no Hong Kong person will use Hong Kongese, especially one who has emmigrated to Canada, as HKI supposedly did. And he also got the colonial flag wrong. LOL!
Why do you think that is the colonial flag lol? You don't fucken represent HK, stop claiming on behalf of Hkers. Btw, you should see my impression, I was like laughing and crying at the same time.
@Balencian, I am just pointing out a fact. You can't take that? Yes, I can imagine you crying, at how you got trumped. LOL! Maybe your tears will make your Tim Horton coffee more flavorful. Hahaha!
Btw, before talking more on Hk and shit about the Brits.
#1 Move back to Hk or China from England
#2 Don't contradict your statements such as saying its okay for Palestinians in America to talk about Palestine but not HKers oversea talk about Hk.
#3 Stop imagining things.
#4 Acknowledge that other than they have a good economic development, PRC have not advance anything culturally, philosophically, scientific other than pirating stuffs.
Did i said you were a UK resident, I just tell you to get your ass back to your beloved motherland. (Btw, are you sure you are in HK, cuz the stats still show no one from HK or China is commenting)
Nothing wrong with what you stated. But there is a problem when you are living in UK/France, taking advantage of their welfare system while go on ranting how bad they are and how great CCP is. And that is exactly what you are doing. If you love CCP so much, why don't you just get your ass back to PRC? (And don't say crap like you are alrdy in HK or w/e, your lies had alrdy been exposed by youtube)
I love how you can declare whoever you like to be Hker or not. Who the hell are you? The Kowloon Emperor? And let me point out I said your view is shared by "CCP" not China Chinese. And please don't say view of the PRC is shared by the majority of the Hkers. If you take out the new immigrants or "Patriotic merchants" like you, I can assure you Hkers will choose to return to U.K (at least for the next ten years when those who lived through British Colonial rule is still here).
One more thing, since we pointed out alot of History examples already. Remember the Soviets and Polish Communists were ruling Poland for like forty years claiming their views are supported by the people. After the Soviet lost power, the Soviets were seen as invaders, the communists traitors, while the Polish Forces in exile in England were heralded as Polish Heroes (even though majority of them chose to stay in England instead of returning to Poland).Hence, think over your logic.
China today, is a smarter and more dangerous enemy to Democracy. China today has replaced the old Soviet Union, when China was one of the US' good allies, China was considered to be a good democratic power, along with US, and UK. After the fall of Republican China, and the rise of Communist China, the West saw that a day of great loss, and a loss of a great democratic ally. Balance has found its way, when Soviets fell, and Communist Chinese rose up to take its place. It's inevitable.
But, Hong Kong was never part of the rise, and never shall. Hong Kong will see the day its own flag flies alone on the pole, and see itself as a democratic nation. Communism has currently stop spreading to our eyes, but in reality, it has been seeping through the cracks of our democratic hands like water. It's been tainting other countries around it, and will soon influence the entire world, and is already rivaling the US as the World's Super Power.
@Hongkongindependence, stop dreaming, China is not a Communist country, far from it, it is a benign authoritarian government using Singapore as a model. And HK people are happy as long as the economy is humming, which it is. And yes, the Western system in governance is in trouble, just look at the mess created by the Western bankers and its unvalidated wars in Iraq etc.
And dont forgot most of those Patent are actually bribe money in disguise. Remember the Milk Powder scandal, that item was a CCP patented item. (the company was owned by CCP anyhow)
@Balencian, Huawei applied for the most patents last year, even more than Panasonic. The patents were registered via world bodies, so are U saying the world body is corrupt? LOL!
You do notice everything you said are irrelevant since the very beginning. Didn't answer my questions: why are you guys in the west, why the majority ppl of HK dont support your view, and why I can find so many videoes on youtube showing mainlanders as the rabble rousers?
I don't really get your pingying, can you type traditional if you want to sounds sarcastic in Cantonese.
Btw, I noticed despite so many "Patriotic Chinese" responding to this video. This clip's stats and data show that not one of them is from the "motherland" or "Hong Kong."
Like I said, you've got no proof. You are using false information, if this were an international public argument, the world laughs at your ignorance, and wil side with my logic, and well, yours isn't classified as logic, nor knowledge, nor stupidity for that matter. It is nothing, for you are no threat. therefore, I do not need to waste my time no longer. Keep up the spam comments, it lowers your reputation, and raises mine for people will know that I can put up with so much idiots such as you.
No, a good example, is the one Mainland Chinese in USA that attempted to transfer knowledge within the USA to Mainland China. He is lucky he got imprisoned and not the Capital Punishment. Balencian is nothing like that man, and you have no proof, therefore, you have no say. The world is now all about proof. I just stated mine. Where's yours? One more accusations and your comments will be placed under 'Spam' and if it continues, you will be blocked. This is a warning.
Don't get what you were trying to say. What about China is all your predictions about the prospects. And from your conversation with you, you seems only to go with the winning side. Better find yourself a room to run early then, cuz the CCP is really not going to last. Prob not even a recession.
I dont know why you spent your time on youtube,l you sounds like a busy person; traveling all around the world. (you still didnt answer me directly, r u in HK) I am only on youtube when I am procrastinating (which i am doing alot recently). Btw, I never thought of u as Ah Chang, for a ccp supporter, i give you credits for backing up ur claims with facts (despite bias fact).
@Balencia, I am not in HK, but I was just 3 nights ago, go check my posting times. Now where are you yourself, you pay HK taxes, who is the leecher here. LOL! You do look down on mainlanders, just admit it, just as the maker of this video call China 3rd world vrs HK. Bias over mon derriere.
Go ahead believe all you wan. =], i never said I was free from bias (unlike you). I dont know why you keep on reminding the leecher comments from a few days ago, but ya...Dont know where you are, but hope you are not in the West you hated.
No, i am not even born in HK. My citizenship is inherited only from my parents. All i can say I prob care about the lives and welfare of HK citizens than you.
You think HK SARS passport will give you knowledge about HK? Boy, you are naive. But I lived in HK for most of my childhood, and I come back once in a while, so i def know the place.
@Balencia, the SAR passport establishes myself as one who actually live HK, settled in HK and make sure HK's future is bright, not some foreigner from afar trying to impose his value system on us. LOL!
Chill, I am just saying the possibility you are an immigrant. You are losing it for some reasons (You should notice by now Mao is like a joke term for me). Btw, I have valid HKid, so I am not a foreigner. And as far as I am concern, most pre-1997 Hkers valued the Western ways of doing things then yours and CCP. Who's imposing on who? You have to make things clear. (Btw, i can tell u so many famous ppl from China who have HKSAR passport who live there less than a year)
@Balencia, nah, you just couldn't hold back to take a dig at Chinese migrants to HK. LOL! A valid HKID does not make you a true Hong Konger, many Westeners have HKID, and many actually love HK. Kudos to them.LOL! Yeah, if the pre-HKers like it as it was pre-1997, then please don't come back from UBC etc to compete for HK jobs against our local youngsters. Please find your jobs in Canada Western heaven. LOL!
I actually taught as a tutor for new immigrant kids when I return to HK. I have no grudges on Chinese from China in general, just mainlanders who came to HK to leech. I wouldnt be hide these facts like "protect the emperor society" like you; most of them prob have some affiliations with CCP anyhow. And honestly as far as i am concern, you and your support of the CCP is not support by Hkers, in fact they despises your view.
@Balencian , your attitude to mainlanders are just the same as the French or even American on the immigrants, or Canadians on Sikh imkmigrants etc. You can't hide your prejudice, Most of these immigrants are trying to eke out a living doing jobs that HKers don't want. If you actually try to understand them , you will appreciate it, no point trying to put them down. Your point of view is just your point of view.
LOL, alot of ppl here in US and Canada dont realli like those ideas here either? Love how you criticize the west all the time, but when China did the same thing, you go saying we are following them just like the West. I see the paradox.
@Balencian , I don't criticize the West mindlessly, there are good things from the West, I just ask you to me more broadminded. You harp on CCP all the time. LOL!
LOL, the irony!! Notice something, i harp only on CCP's bad policies not China in general*. You go attacked everything from the West, bringing up parts of history or people that were already widely condemned in the West to represent the West
要说到做到唷~
12671314 18 hours ago
Hongkong doesnt need any protection from the so called party, however, given the fact that both HK and PRC have a bilateral relations, the hongkong gov can still have agreements on certain deals based on the needs of economy's development.Hk as the intl financial center, on this issue, can help RPC to achieve the aim of the offshore RMB market, this is a very good deal, by regarding this role, the PRC can't give up HK easily.
lesliemontreal 4 days ago
I would say Hongkong is a Polis not a country, where enjoys her independence of politics and economics, the most important thing is, that hongkong people can get the right of vote back.
lesliemontreal 4 days ago
Support the independence of HONGKONG.
lesliemontreal 4 days ago
别光说不做啊，等着看戏呢！
uofschs724 1 month ago in playlist 更多由HongKongIndependence提供的影片
做为中国人，支持香港独立，香港文化和观念和中国相差太远，统一只会让问题增加，希望香港政府快点独立香港
grozz111 1 month ago
Does Hong Kong even want to be apart of China?
skeezysquirrel 2 months ago
支持香港獨立建國
MarkCSky 2 months ago
香港共和國，聽著就想吐。都是大陸太差勁，讓一些港民盲目自大。
香港現在能有什麽啊，整個一個傀儡社會。要是阿共需要，馬上取消香港的一切經濟特權（非政治特權），馬上就能複製一個香港出來。
廣東共和國還比較靠譜
MRLIUHUHU 4 months ago
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If China collapse (hopefully), Far east will be very peaceful and truly prosperous. There will be Independent Hong Kong, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia Tibet and East Turkestan. Rest of the mainland may choose a more human oriented regime like Taiwan. Communism will be history. Hong Kongers are brave and smart they should never give up idea of independence without bloodshed. Long live Far East's Democracy Heros.
EvilCommunistChina 5 months ago
Our Government rejected a e-petition in it's web site asking the Government to request the Chinese to agree to let HK to hold referendum on whether Hong Kong to return to the UK.
Seems that our Government don't want any upset in Chinese government or destroy relationship with China. 1984 treaty forbids such a return to British rule nor such a referendum, that's why Her Majesty's Government had rejected it!
DavBlc7 6 months ago
香港國萬歲! Long live state of Hong Kong!
ZangFighter 7 months ago
@caiwoshishui 只看誰打誰，誰打誰，「槍干子下出政權」，不看民生，這是膚淺的看法。如果全世界的人也是您的看法，那恐怕世界會陷入戰鬥狀態。
ZangFighter 7 months ago
中华威武！反对任何部分独立！
1988medstudent 7 months ago
中国人不团结是出了名的。。。。
香港人把香港当成一个“城邦”。这叫什么？这叫岛民心态！
159357123100 9 months ago
太好笑了， 這就是所謂的華人 華夏民族~ 要不是中共 亞洲金融危機 香港早就完了~
suntong0616 9 months ago
香港人个个都无种，怕死，搞革命？食蕉拉去。
Alexinmy 9 months ago
@Alexinmy To start a revolution would mean the real end of Hong Kong cos of Chinese law that will allow the PLA to crush any uprising, arrest uprising leaders and take them to Chinese prisons. The Chinese will also suspend basic law and impose martial laws until HK return to normal.
So far there are still no uprisings, only protests permitted under basic law. Hong Kongers felt uprising is the last thing they want with the PLA keeping watch so not to do anything.
DavBlc7 8 months ago
I forgot - any foreigners or non-Chinese or HKSAR passport holders involved in the uprising would be deported and never come back.
DavBlc7 8 months ago
@caiwoshishui 就像貴黨一樣。
ZangFighter 1 year ago
@kwwong1234敢和我打赌么？
dicksion0040 1 year ago
楼主，知道什么人最恶心吗？就是自己在家摇旗呐喊鼓吹别人去送死的那种人
我非常支持你的观点，我更希望你明天走上街头用行动捍卫你的政治理想
dicksion0040 1 year ago
........又一群NC....你们叫嚣吧,你们乱跳,你们无法阻止中国的强大!!!!终有一天昔日的领土我们全会拿回来!
jiarunze 1 year ago
@jiarunze
又一群土共, 你點罵我地, 亂講一通, 都無計可施阻礙中共仆街倒台
終有一日, 你地會係歷史台上俾人審判!
alextongfr 1 year ago
一看到解放軍的軍服就感到害怕
HeronOfHeaven 1 year ago
we don't need PLA in deed
Edwardjsa 1 year ago
Great Video !
showing the Great Power of Great China !
HaHa....LOL.....! 亡蟈奴港毒豚只會懂喊哀! 真係可憐! 真係可悲!
RedNeckAlliance 1 year ago
不知所謂的短片. 連落大雨都拉埋入黎講到好似同成件成好關咁.
試問有邊年香港六月唔會落大雨架?
神經病.
wingwing0404 1 year ago
香港真是悲情，原本是事頭婆皇冠上最耀眼的 「東方之珠」，後來竟然成為中共虛偽「一國兩制」的不幸犧牲者！香港與澳門合併吧！然後可以邀請深圳，看他們要不要加入港澳聯邦民主共和國！之後我希望：港澳圳聯邦民主共和國可以順利加入大英國協與東南亞國協！
199112171433 1 year ago
@199112171433 你也就欺负大陆没在东江修大坝~
英国太远了，英国会委托印度代理你的港澳聯邦民主共和國，你别说我笑话你，当年的缅甸就是印度代替英国行使管理职能的
dicksion0040 1 year ago
@kwwong1234 應該是11年，1991年12月25日蘇聯解體。
199112171433 1 year ago
不过二战时候，英国主子没有保卫香港，马上就让日本占领了，当然，宁愿被民主世界的人放弃被人强奸，也不愿成为所谓独裁国家的人民~
dicksion0040 1 year ago
@dicksion0040 If the British were not there, do you think the Mainlanders would have done ANYTHING to protect the people of that 'nameless' region? No. The British held off the Japanese, but they could not span their forces to fight TWO fronts. Against the German enemies, and now the Japanese, half-way across the world. Could you have done any better? If it weren't for the surrender on Christmas day, the Japanese would have bombed HK to nothing.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@dicksion0040 Do you think the British WANTED to surrender? They were put in Camps and starved to death. Many of those who stepped in never stepped back out alive. At least they let themselves be captured left us HKers to free-roam HK. We all, British and Hong Kong Chinese sacrificed something for our next generation to survive. China could have done no better. During the raid of HK, Canton was already taken by the Japanese. Do not think that YOUR people could have done any better than us HKers.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@dicksion0040 你不是故意歪曲歷史就是對歷史一竅不通，二戰期間，英軍竭盡所能對抗日軍，惟英日兩軍數量懸殊，且香港地形無險可守，香港最終失守只是早晚的事，乃意料之中。出乎所料的是，英加聯軍在香港一役，拋頭顱灑熱血，數千英加烈士捨命為香港從日軍手中替香港爭回近一個月的自由。You are either ignorant of Hong Kong history or attempt to distort it. In fact, during the WWII, the British Hong Kong Garrison did its level best to fight against the Japanese troops. The British HK Garrison eventually surrendered, because they were outnumbered by their Japanese counterparts, and the Hong Kong territory is geographically undefensable.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago 7
@HongKongIndependence Not only British but Canadian troops did tried to defend HK against the Japs but they were unable to stop them and most who had been surrendered were being massacred - some went to work on railway lines, denying them medical treatments. Most died in POWs or at railway lines.
According to a story an ambulance crew tried to surrender but the Japs killed them including the patients inside.
Terrible story this?
DavBlc7 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence Not only British but Canadians too - don't forget that - According to history - Japanese troops captured a hospital in HK in 1941 where many Canadian wounded are kept in. They bayoneted wounded soldiers in beds to death, sometimes shooting them. Terrible story.
You are right, They were unable to stop the Japanese cos they attacked just a few hours after the Pearl Harbour raid. They were well organised than the British.
DavBlc7 9 months ago
@dicksion0040
保不保護香港?
1967年, 左仔係香港亂放土製Pineapple, 整死香港人, 好未?
中共好偉大呀...哈哈哈...製造混亂, 如求自身利益, 以港人之命...血去想強搶香港XDDDD
alextongfr 1 year ago
历史是，美国，加拿大人民都是靠战争才能独立，我不反对楼主暴动。
dicksion0040 1 year ago
@dicksion0040 Canada never fought a war of Independence. Only the United States of America fought a war of Independence, Canada signed a treaty with the British, and so did Australia, to become Independent Countries, and to also continue to recognise the (King or) Queen of England to be their Monarchy.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence
言下之意，您已坦承教唆他人(我們)犯罪，即教唆我們暴力對待他人(中國)，我們要向中國公安部與香港警方舉發您的罪行。In other words, you have already admitted that you are abetting others (us) to commit a criminal offense, that is, you are abetting us to use violence against others (China). We are going to report your criminal act to the Chinese Police and the Hong Kong Police.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence OMG would you just STFU?
wingwing0404 1 year ago
@dicksion0040 You may also think that HK should not bare arms or become violent in order for their future to be attained, but it should be noted, that examples such as India should not be brought up. China is NOTHING like Britain, and they will not show mercy to us HKers, nor to its own Mainlanders, as shown in the Tiananmen Massacre of 1989. It is all or nothing for us HKers. We will be heard. Beijing cannot stop HK.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@dicksion0040 言下之意，您已坦承教唆他人(我們)犯罪，即教唆我們暴力對待他人(中國)，我們要向中國公安部與香港警方舉發您的罪行。In other words, you have already admitted that you are abetting others (us) to commit a criminal offense, that is, you are abetting us to use violence against others (China). We are going to report your criminal act to the Chinese Police and the Hong Kong Police.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence 等着呢，快去快去~
dicksion0040 1 year ago
俾你獨立得嘅, 西藏,新疆,內蒙嗰D咪又會去攪獨立, 四分五裂不堪設想~
jeffert0724 1 year ago
省省吧，好好赚钱养家吧无聊死了
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
"約10年後，中共必毀滅" 可我生来偏偏就不信这个邪。
theboyuan0jcfan 1 year ago
被英国殖民就不叫独裁吗？被英国殖民就有民主吗？
誓做中国人，不当英国犬！
theboyuan0jcfan 1 year ago
妖言惑眾
xiaomiaowang 1 year ago
@xiaomiaowang 詞窮理盡
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago 2
A lot of protests in Hong Kong.
desmondwkyip 1 year ago 2
This is probably what the entire Hong Kong want. I believe this will become a reality after many years.
All CCPs collapse at the very end.
My 2 cents.
desmondwkyip 1 year ago 3
@desmondwkyip Indeed. HKers just haven't looked around the corner. Their constant marching does not affect Beijing. They won't change their minds. What will they do to HK after that '50 years'? I can dare say, they can do anything to HK. In fact, they're already tresspassing on their 'One Country, Two System' rule as well as breaking many points on the Sino-British Joint Declaration of 1984. Taiwan's Official already noted that CCP have already broken many of their promises.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
頭大無腦, 腦大生草!
香港自古以來, 永遠都是中国的領土
香港人是炎黃子孫, 中華民族的一份子
貼這影帶的人生仔無屎忽!
LCSIU328 1 year ago
要独立早唔独立 英国人系度时唔见你独立 唔话你走狗都唔得
Tairant2000 1 year ago
又係D自慰片...
有種上街
jinjinjiejie 1 year ago
你妈妈的ci bai 也要獨立吗？
custno08 1 year ago
@custno08 Those are the character of the 'ill-educated'. Please use Traditional Characters.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence
中文都唔識, 難怪要搞獨立!
LCSIU328 1 year ago
Fuck Off ,Independent Hong Kong! Fuck off UK走狗狗,
香港原屬"中華人民共和國"'領土,剩係依點你清楚唔清楚啊?UK走狗們
johnshiu63 1 year ago
@kwwong1234
Couldn't have said it better.
Have faith, my Hong Kong, Chinese, and Taiwanese Brothers and Sisters, so long as we are positive and united, we will succeed.
An Independent Future,
An Independent Hong Kong!
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
@HongKongIndependence
痴人說夢!
LCSIU328 1 year ago
与中华民族的同胞称兄道弟还要搞分裂？您矛盾不矛盾啊你？
theboyuan0jcfan 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence 奇怪了在英國統治期間英國派駐總督，香港人為何不向英國人要普選？？要民主？甘願被英國人奴役？中國人收回中國人的地盤你們卻要普選，不覺得這樣的民主很假很有欺騙性嗎？好好過日子賺錢養家吧
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
@MrMarcocaofanhua this question was answered by Hong Kong's famous writer Chip Tsao years ago. Chip Tsao's answer can be summarized with two sentences: "China is not democratic and merciless to its people, but the UK is democratic and humane." Also, under the British, they were not slaves. They didn't need universal suffrage because the Britons were the ones teaching HK how to become democratic. China, is nothing. Face the facts. Pre-97 HK will always be better than After-97. Unless we step in.
HongKongIndependence 1 year ago 2
@HongKongIndependence 那你就去大英 做二等公民吧，去效忠你的女王沒人阻礙你，不要在幻想了，香港不可能會獨立的 謝謝
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
@HongKongIndependence
I surely support your view!!
raychan2000 1 year ago
港英__ __
ereptoolbar 2 years ago 4
香港和兩廣人本來就不屬於漢族!!
contonese2 2 years ago
你们可以下岗，共产党不能下台
freecantonia 2 years ago 3
@freecantonia True. But we must try. Look at it this way. If we try, we have *A* chance of getting Independence, and giving our children a better life. But if we just sit around, we're just staring death in the eyes and waiting for him to swallow Hong Kong whole in around 30 years.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
支那豚奴性很強啊!!
freecantonia 2 years ago 3
@freecantonia 綠毛龜 滾出去
MrMarcocaofanhua 1 year ago
民族敗類
xiaomiaowang 2 years ago
Say what you want. You are all afraid of us, which is why all you can think of are insults, and negative comments.
Like I said, if any of you can find 'Hong Kong' on a world map, or map of China prior to British take over, then we will discard our movement, because that truly means China always ruled Hong Kong. But, realistically, China NEVER had control of Hong Kong, it was not 'invented' nor 'named' back then, therefore, this 'Hong Kong' was the creation of the British, NOT the CCP.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
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逢美必親、逢英必舔、逢中必反、逢華必惡、逢師必欺、逢祖必滅、逢共必罵、逢官必辱、逢史必糾、逢異必伐?
bearpennng 2 years ago
UK走狗......Fxxk YOU
evian2811 2 years ago
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Fuck Off ,Independent Hong Kong! Fuck off UK走狗狗, 香港原屬"中華人民共和國"'領土,剩係依點你清楚唔清楚啊?UK走狗們,五星紅旗永遠在"香港"飄洋.清楚唔清楚UK走狗狗.
johnshiu63 2 years ago
You're the only 'Traitor'. Who brought up Hong Kong? British. Who started the riots of 1967? Communists. Who to blame? Communist China, who to respect and thank for the 155 years of happiness? Britain.
Get your facts straight, I am no traitor, those who stand with us, are loyalists, and those who stand against us are the traitors. We do not want a British Colonial Hong Kong. We want an Independent Hong Kong Republic. Get things straight.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
You are a traitor to your country. most Hong Kong people love China. United we are stronger, and Chinese all around the world should stand together to fight off our enemies. 155 years of happiness? No such imperialism is happy. Those arrogant Brits are assholes and deserved to be bombed back then by Chinese brothers. CHINESE UNITY FOREVER!
Tibetansareniggers 2 years ago
蘇聯走狗好!!
contonese2 2 years ago
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UK走狗,你冇在此搞"港獨"HongKong"永遠是"中華人民共和國"領土.
你班UK走狗,快D滾去UK做英女皇隻忠心狗狗.
johnshiu63 2 years ago
香港永遠是中國的地方，如你地較喜歡英國統治,搬去英國住吧
SinHonPan 2 years ago
It only started in 1997. I love, and respect the United Kingdom, but I do not agree that Hong Kong should return to British rule, I never have said that, I stated that Hong Kong should become an Independent, sovereign state, and a Republic. Hong Kongers rule Hong Kong.
An Independent Future,
An Independent Hong Kong!
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
Find a map that states Hong Kong was a city of China, BEFORE 1997, and BEFORE 1842.
Hong Kong NEVER had a name prior to 1842, and never was considered a city. Please, if you a Hong Konger, show some dignity and respect.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
香港原屬中國地方,剩係依點你清楚唔清楚啊?
Jeff16694 2 years ago
If any of you Pro-CCP people out there, can find a map prior to 1842 that shows, states, and says that 'Hong Kong/香港' Was listed ON the map, or listed as a city, then you win.
Other than that, Hong Kong was NEVER a city of China, it was a Colony to Britain, and was named Hong Kong/香港 BY Britain. All your ignorant comments will be marked as spam if it contains uneccessary language usage.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
seems that those stupid guys enjoy self masturbation very much so just let them keep day dreaming lah.........so poor little dick.........
elosantana 2 years ago
What you say, can also be accounted for as 'deceptively false'.
You cannot say that mine is false, as I do have supporters that originate and still do live in HK today. You speak for yourself, I speak for those who follow this movement.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
香港自己公投要不要獨立好了....
這個人很怪...
港英政府也沒給你們普選...還把你們送給共產黨了...你們就意淫吧..還往上貼Union jack... --
aucklandazn 2 years ago 3
Please don't use that type of language. Thank you.
The reason for the Union Jack is to show that Hong Kong is part of the Commonwealth if the Independence of Hong Kong succeeds. Do not underestimate us. Also, there was no reason for Universal Suffrage in British Hong Kong because everything was going well, and everyone did not want to object. But look at Hong Kong SAR now, was there THAT much (crap) parties in BHK? No. The restless HKers in HKSAR want change.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
They just do not realise, that the change they want, lies in Independence, and not the parties they create. Beijing certainly will not bow to HKers. It is pretty obvious what will happen. And Indeed you are correct, there was no Referendum in BHK, but everyone was happy. Yes, true, BHK deserved an Independence Referendum, but the fact is that that feel and urge to have one, still exists, because what was apparently worse (BHK) became more worse (HKSAR).
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
Well, as a chinese myself, I'm in favor of a rederendum for HK's Independence. However, even if this actually do occur, the chances are low.
What I'm hoping to see it's a unified , democratic China. HK is perfect to serve as a stronghold for democracy...mayb im just dreaming. Those so called crap parties i guess you meant pro-beijing parties =S there is a reason why they are there, and they are quite influential nowadays.
So good on ya mate, i doubt that the day will come, dnt give up tho.
aucklandazn 2 years ago
Thank you for your good wishes. I also want to say, 'Unification' is a lie by the Communists. It is a mere term used by the CCP to make us Chinese subject to them so they can keep their power. To me, the Chinese are already unified. As a race, we CANNOT be seperated. We are ONE race, and one ethnicity, nothing can split that. We were, are, and always will be unified. 'One Country, Two System' has never existed in Hong Kong, and Macau, and neither will it exist between Taiwan and Mainland China.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
Here is my suggestion, and proposal to all Chinese:
中, 港, 台.
一華, 三國.
Direct translation:
China, Hong Kong, Taiwan
One Chinese(Race), Three Nations/Countries
Supports my statement of as a Chinese, we are and always will be unified. As ONE race, under three nations/countries.
Sound like a better idea? Because from what reality looks like now, 'Unified China' or 'Unification' means expansion of the Chinese territory. Which is for their own CCP power-greed. not us, the Chinese.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
I actually prefer some sort of federation, or some sort of union based on EU, common market, common tariff etc
youre idea works for me, but you probs wont find much supporters in todays China. I'm quite worried about the spread of militarism and extreme nationalism in mainland China, very dangerous trend.
The collapse of CCP requires a series of catastrophic events, it comes at a too high cost. Although Im quite anti-ccp, but a peaceful transformation to democracy is more or less day dreaming
aucklandazn 2 years ago
That could work, provided no Asian countries see China as a threat, especially the massive bulk military buil-dup they're having. And their little competition with the US. That is exactly what I say, Nationalism and Patrioticism, can only go so far. It shouldn't blind people from what is RIGHT and what is WRONG. Sure, we Chinese HAVE been humiliated, but you don't see the enslaved blacks rise up and attempt to kill all whites, or build a bigger military to threaten them.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
It makes it worse for both ethnicities. The Chinese have to keep their heads up, and stand against those who are wrong, and not to go full-force nationalism. That will destroy us. Right now, China is strong, and powerful. Sure, that's a good achievement by them, but the fact they achieved it in a WRONG way, and is still committing crimes, is what makes it bad for Chinese to side with them.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
My grandmother told me today she heard that on Mainland China, someone on a motorcycle got bumped by someone behind him in a car. He reported it to the police and they were brought to the department. The guy in the car was a rich guy, and the one on the motorcycle was moderate. The bribes the officers into arresting the victim and then they said he was continually beaten up by the police. The father could not bare to see it, and was doing all he could do to help him, but did not succeed.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
The father then committed suicide, and when the son was released, he was in deep depression. Now tell me, what kind of lawless country is that? If I were the US, I would NOT let a country like that meddle with world affairs. It is unacceptable that the victim looses more than he is suppose to gain. It's unjust, and China will NEVER succeed and gain support from us HKers and Westerners as long as they have this corruptive government and justice system. It is something they need to fix.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
@Maohammet
The videoes for dragondescent and w/e lick guy hes called are also for you.
watch?v=bPS71U1HrcM , check out his other videoes, and look at how civilized you guys are. Seriously make Long hair look like a star pupil.
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian, posting these racist videos just tell people how prejudiced you are. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Notice my friend, mainlander is not a race (unless you say Hk and mainland is 2 diff race, then Hk should go independent). If you want to charge me for hate crime, good luck. And i thought those videos are very funny and since most of them r from the news; its just a good reflection of Hk society.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, when did I say mainlander is a race? Again, you try to put words in my mouth, LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
If mainlander is not a race, how can I be "racist"? Wrink, wrink?
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian, playing with semantics does not hide the fact that you are a racist.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
The fact is I am not racist. You are disregarding the law here.
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian, your disdain for Chinese from China is very obvious. You are liable for racism.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Correction, it is a portion of "the Chinese from China", esp ppl habiting in the west, enjoying western product and go ranting how good CCP is but not willing to return. In fact, i honestly think they should change who mainlanders applied to, really should designated to the above groups than generalize it on all Chinese from China. Cuz I know quite a few Chinese of China smarter than most Hkers and definitely more desering to being Hker than you.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, what is wrong with Chinese people living overseas to love their country? Irish Americans supported their Catholic brethren in Ulster, Jew for Israel, Arab Americans for the palestinain cause etc. If they use the rules you propose, then many Americans wouldn't become Americans. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
You are the guy who was ranting that HKI and I are not true Hker for not being in Hong Kong. Now you go defend yourself for hiding in france? (I honestly love your double standard, i guess you really see nothing wrong in your logic)
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian, you are obviously not a true Hong Konger, you might used to be. HKI is not even a Hong Konger, I debunked him already. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Are you in you little wonderland? I just debunked you as a guy hiding in France. You didn't debunked anything other than proving to me that you are a hypocrite. Btw, under Hk laws, anyone with a HKid is a hk citizen, and if both parents are born in HK, their child will inherit the right to be a hker by birth. So HKI is a hker, unless you go to beijing and beg your CCP master to force HK gov to change the law.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, I am posting back to you from a hotel near Gatwick Airport in London, so now you debunked me as hiding in UK? LOL! HKI called himself a Hong Kongese. Ahahahahaha!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Which is even worse, you are hiding in the country you hated so much.
Btw, what's so funny, you just tell me HKI says he is a hker? Is that suppose to be that funny to you? Cuz you just back up his claim when trying to discredit it.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, HKI used the word Hong Kongese on his YT profile. I pointed this out to him. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Your pt? There are some people that use Hong Kongese instead of HKers. Why are you so CCP, even dictating on what word ppl have to use.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, no Hong Kong person will use Hong Kongese, especially one who has emmigrated to Canada, as HKI supposedly did. And he also got the colonial flag wrong. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Why do you think that is the colonial flag lol? You don't fucken represent HK, stop claiming on behalf of Hkers. Btw, you should see my impression, I was like laughing and crying at the same time.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, I am just pointing out a fact. You can't take that? Yes, I can imagine you crying, at how you got trumped. LOL! Maybe your tears will make your Tim Horton coffee more flavorful. Hahaha!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Btw, before talking more on Hk and shit about the Brits.
#1 Move back to Hk or China from England
#2 Don't contradict your statements such as saying its okay for Palestinians in America to talk about Palestine but not HKers oversea talk about Hk.
#3 Stop imagining things.
#4 Acknowledge that other than they have a good economic development, PRC have not advance anything culturally, philosophically, scientific other than pirating stuffs.
#5 you share view with CCP not hkers.
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian,
#1 I am in HK, just got back this morning from Heathrow. LOL!
#2 When did I say it is not OK for HKers to talk from overseas, and HKI and yourself aren't even HKers. LOL!
#3 You are the one imagining thins, like I am UK resident etc. LOL!
#4 PRC is 5th on the patents index and expect to be number 1 in 2020. LOL! Of course your prejudice blinded you to this fact.
#5 More view of the PRC is shared by many HKers. You don't know from thousands of miles away in Canada. LMAO!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Did i said you were a UK resident, I just tell you to get your ass back to your beloved motherland. (Btw, are you sure you are in HK, cuz the stats still show no one from HK or China is commenting)
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, just because I am a proud Chinese does not mean I cannot travel overseas for duty or leisure. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
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Balencian 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Nothing wrong with what you stated. But there is a problem when you are living in UK/France, taking advantage of their welfare system while go on ranting how bad they are and how great CCP is. And that is exactly what you are doing. If you love CCP so much, why don't you just get your ass back to PRC? (And don't say crap like you are alrdy in HK or w/e, your lies had alrdy been exposed by youtube)
Balencian 2 years ago
@Maohammet
I love how you can declare whoever you like to be Hker or not. Who the hell are you? The Kowloon Emperor? And let me point out I said your view is shared by "CCP" not China Chinese. And please don't say view of the PRC is shared by the majority of the Hkers. If you take out the new immigrants or "Patriotic merchants" like you, I can assure you Hkers will choose to return to U.K (at least for the next ten years when those who lived through British Colonial rule is still here).
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencia, Ngor hai Heung Gong Yan, lei ng hai.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
One more thing, since we pointed out alot of History examples already. Remember the Soviets and Polish Communists were ruling Poland for like forty years claiming their views are supported by the people. After the Soviet lost power, the Soviets were seen as invaders, the communists traitors, while the Polish Forces in exile in England were heralded as Polish Heroes (even though majority of them chose to stay in England instead of returning to Poland).Hence, think over your logic.
Balencian 2 years ago
China tofday is not run on a socialist system like Poland and the Soviet Union. LOL! No wonder you are still stuck with that commie stuff.
Maohammet 2 years ago
China today, is a smarter and more dangerous enemy to Democracy. China today has replaced the old Soviet Union, when China was one of the US' good allies, China was considered to be a good democratic power, along with US, and UK. After the fall of Republican China, and the rise of Communist China, the West saw that a day of great loss, and a loss of a great democratic ally. Balance has found its way, when Soviets fell, and Communist Chinese rose up to take its place. It's inevitable.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
@HKI, China is a threat to Western Democracy because it debunked it.
Maohammet 2 years ago
But, Hong Kong was never part of the rise, and never shall. Hong Kong will see the day its own flag flies alone on the pole, and see itself as a democratic nation. Communism has currently stop spreading to our eyes, but in reality, it has been seeping through the cracks of our democratic hands like water. It's been tainting other countries around it, and will soon influence the entire world, and is already rivaling the US as the World's Super Power.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
@Hongkongindependence, stop dreaming, China is not a Communist country, far from it, it is a benign authoritarian government using Singapore as a model. And HK people are happy as long as the economy is humming, which it is. And yes, the Western system in governance is in trouble, just look at the mess created by the Western bankers and its unvalidated wars in Iraq etc.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Balencian
And dont forgot most of those Patent are actually bribe money in disguise. Remember the Milk Powder scandal, that item was a CCP patented item. (the company was owned by CCP anyhow)
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, Huawei applied for the most patents last year, even more than Panasonic. The patents were registered via world bodies, so are U saying the world body is corrupt? LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
Let the arguements halt for a day, and let ourselves wish each other a great year of prosperty and good health!
Happy Chinese New Year all!
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
@Maohammet,
You do notice everything you said are irrelevant since the very beginning. Didn't answer my questions: why are you guys in the west, why the majority ppl of HK dont support your view, and why I can find so many videoes on youtube showing mainlanders as the rabble rousers?
I don't really get your pingying, can you type traditional if you want to sounds sarcastic in Cantonese.
Balencian 2 years ago
@dragondescent and lickmyprivate
You guys honestly don't know who are the thugs and terrorists in Hk. Check this video out on youtube and other videoes this guy posted.
watch?v=bPS71U1HrcM
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian, the rabble rousers in HK are longhair and his clique. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
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Balencian 2 years ago
Btw, I noticed despite so many "Patriotic Chinese" responding to this video. This clip's stats and data show that not one of them is from the "motherland" or "Hong Kong."
我可以肯定他們好愛國
Balencian 2 years ago
@balencian, you did not 肯定 anything. Ngor hai heung gong yan, ching sau deh lah!
Maohammet 2 years ago
Like I said, you've got no proof. You are using false information, if this were an international public argument, the world laughs at your ignorance, and wil side with my logic, and well, yours isn't classified as logic, nor knowledge, nor stupidity for that matter. It is nothing, for you are no threat. therefore, I do not need to waste my time no longer. Keep up the spam comments, it lowers your reputation, and raises mine for people will know that I can put up with so much idiots such as you.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
Belancian and this punk called HKindependence are fucking terrorists, they fucked each other asses in the public.
lickmyprivate 2 years ago 2
No, a good example, is the one Mainland Chinese in USA that attempted to transfer knowledge within the USA to Mainland China. He is lucky he got imprisoned and not the Capital Punishment. Balencian is nothing like that man, and you have no proof, therefore, you have no say. The world is now all about proof. I just stated mine. Where's yours? One more accusations and your comments will be placed under 'Spam' and if it continues, you will be blocked. This is a warning.
HongKongIndependence 2 years ago
@HKI, US spys on China just as China spys on US. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Don't get what you were trying to say. What about China is all your predictions about the prospects. And from your conversation with you, you seems only to go with the winning side. Better find yourself a room to run early then, cuz the CCP is really not going to last. Prob not even a recession.
Balencian 2 years ago
@dragondescent
LOL. Do you even know what terrorism means? And do you know what is even going on society?
Balencian 2 years ago
@Maohammet,
I dont know why you spent your time on youtube,l you sounds like a busy person; traveling all around the world. (you still didnt answer me directly, r u in HK) I am only on youtube when I am procrastinating (which i am doing alot recently). Btw, I never thought of u as Ah Chang, for a ccp supporter, i give you credits for backing up ur claims with facts (despite bias fact).
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencia, I am not in HK, but I was just 3 nights ago, go check my posting times. Now where are you yourself, you pay HK taxes, who is the leecher here. LOL! You do look down on mainlanders, just admit it, just as the maker of this video call China 3rd world vrs HK. Bias over mon derriere.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
Go ahead believe all you wan. =], i never said I was free from bias (unlike you). I dont know why you keep on reminding the leecher comments from a few days ago, but ya...Dont know where you are, but hope you are not in the West you hated.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, you are biased, and you still believe you are. I know I hold a HK SAR passport, what about you, eh?
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
No, i am not even born in HK. My citizenship is inherited only from my parents. All i can say I prob care about the lives and welfare of HK citizens than you.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian, that figures. I dohn't think you know about HK.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
You think HK SARS passport will give you knowledge about HK? Boy, you are naive. But I lived in HK for most of my childhood, and I come back once in a while, so i def know the place.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencia, the SAR passport establishes myself as one who actually live HK, settled in HK and make sure HK's future is bright, not some foreigner from afar trying to impose his value system on us. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
@Maohammet
Chill, I am just saying the possibility you are an immigrant. You are losing it for some reasons (You should notice by now Mao is like a joke term for me). Btw, I have valid HKid, so I am not a foreigner. And as far as I am concern, most pre-1997 Hkers valued the Western ways of doing things then yours and CCP. Who's imposing on who? You have to make things clear. (Btw, i can tell u so many famous ppl from China who have HKSAR passport who live there less than a year)
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencia, nah, you just couldn't hold back to take a dig at Chinese migrants to HK. LOL! A valid HKID does not make you a true Hong Konger, many Westeners have HKID, and many actually love HK. Kudos to them.LOL! Yeah, if the pre-HKers like it as it was pre-1997, then please don't come back from UBC etc to compete for HK jobs against our local youngsters. Please find your jobs in Canada Western heaven. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
I actually taught as a tutor for new immigrant kids when I return to HK. I have no grudges on Chinese from China in general, just mainlanders who came to HK to leech. I wouldnt be hide these facts like "protect the emperor society" like you; most of them prob have some affiliations with CCP anyhow. And honestly as far as i am concern, you and your support of the CCP is not support by Hkers, in fact they despises your view.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian , your attitude to mainlanders are just the same as the French or even American on the immigrants, or Canadians on Sikh imkmigrants etc. You can't hide your prejudice, Most of these immigrants are trying to eke out a living doing jobs that HKers don't want. If you actually try to understand them , you will appreciate it, no point trying to put them down. Your point of view is just your point of view.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Balencian, HK shud welcome famous people from China to take residence, just as US and Canada have also done the same.
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
LOL, alot of ppl here in US and Canada dont realli like those ideas here either? Love how you criticize the west all the time, but when China did the same thing, you go saying we are following them just like the West. I see the paradox.
Balencian 2 years ago
@Balencian , I don't criticize the West mindlessly, there are good things from the West, I just ask you to me more broadminded. You harp on CCP all the time. LOL!
Maohammet 2 years ago
@Maohammet
LOL, the irony!! Notice something, i harp only on CCP's bad policies not China in general*. You go attacked everything from the West, bringing up parts of history or people that were already widely condemned in the West to represent the West