Many of the musicians back in the day were ugly, goofy liking, nerds. Many of them were not in their teens either; many were in their 30's and 40's. Now even (so called) rock bands are pretty boys. If these musicians focused more on learning to play their instruments, and writing decent songs, than about their cloths and dance moves (yes, even rock bands dance now), music would be in different place.
I love beirut. They brought me into th new genre i learned called folk. Usually, every song i listen to is alwys indie... I search the song, love the song, wii the song an always comes back to indie. To what i think about mainstream music, their lyrics are non-sence.. Ive seen the music video of "im sexy and i know it" and saw a man shaking his groin. This is how i know that music today is fucked up. Thank you for reading my opinion.. I shall go back to rant videos.. -.-
Mainstream just sucks all together. I fucking hate all these stupid artist like Justin bieber, any Disney star, or any pop star that only do it for the money. You hardly ever find an artist who truly plays for the music and doesn't give a shit about the rest. This is coming from a punk rocker
2. Lil Wayne / Soulja Boy, completely took the cake and a great representive of what killed my favourite genre, now it's all about money, women, cars and drugs and boasting about it.
Number one factor I hate about music is, the public, because the majority lean toward 'what's cool' and convince theirselves to like it, but what is 'cool' isn't cool at all. Because of this, bands / artists completely change and become alien to their roots.
IN A NUTSHELL...A BAND LIKE NICKELBACK...WOULDN'T EVEN BE A TOUGHT IN THE 70'S OR 80'S YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DOING... TODAY YOU'RE GOOD BECAUSE SOME GUY IN A SUIT SAYS YOU'RE GOOD AND ONCE THE BALL STARTS ROLLING YOUNG KIDS CAN'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES..AND GO WELL THE RADIO IS PLAYING THAT SONG SO IT MUST BE GOOD
One of the problems with Nickelback and so called 'Alternative' music in general was a split that happened in the early 90s. Alt music was co-opted by Corporate radio and mass marketed. People then saw bands like counting crows under alternative instead of mainstream which caused confusion. One thing should be noted was what was the dominant available drug during certain time periods which did effect music. Early to mid 80s was Coke, late 80s to early 90s was LSD, mid to late 90s was E and meth.
Well I think Justin Beiber is probably more hated than Nickelback. It be a reaction of disgust when people see 300-500 million Beiber YT hits yet quite beautiful music may only have maybe 10k. In the USA, there is a similar shared sentiment that some sports star makes millions while another person will live a rather simple selfless humanitarian existence helping others yet gets little recognition or support which has brought upon public cynicism. Never underestimate the power of mass marketing!
@pneumatictrousers Are you referring to the grunge revolution following the release of Nevermind? Yeh I'm with you on the selfless people get no recognition comment.
@Orygyn For clarity purposes, it should be understood that the grunge revolution ended around the time of Nevermind, not began. What was born out of that was the bastard twins of alternative music. The revolution I think you are referring to is the impact and aftermath of when for a brief moment the underground dominated. There was a naive hope that corporate radio was going to finally give voice to what a very large majority of youth wanted to hear. Instead they marketed the image as a cash cow
The mainstream rock/metal is just as shitty as the pop and rap. Example Bands: Paramore, Slipknot, iwrestledabearonce, Flyleaf, Evanescence, My Chemical Romance, Five Finger Death Punch, Bring Me the Horizon, Linkin Park and so on.
I like alot of mainstream metal but then again I hate alot of mainstream metal. I can't stand these butthurt fanboys who think it's wrong for people to hate their favorite bands but think it's ok to bash pop.
this is my position on music: it started as a glorious body that had a meaning and as technology grew it was like steroids for all aspects of this body however at a certain point more tech was put into this body eventually causing the body to OD this basically means more people came into the industry and polluted it with things that take no skill and have deeper meaning... this group acted like a parasite and caused their crap to spread all over the corpse however, some parts still hold good
@MinisculeMayhem things but these parts are VERY hidden and when they are exposed by unexpected events they are shunned (flashback to the arcade fire at the grammys) however now we are at a fork because there could be one of 3 things 1.music that takes skill and time to develop a meaning (the soul) makes a comeback and gradually brings life back to the body 2. the tech wins and reduces the corpse to an incoherent mess or 3. the struggle continues (most likely)... This is where the
@MinisculeMayhem number of views comes in because if the second thing happens than it will strengthen it however it could also help the people in the hidden pockets..... sorry about the long post i am passionate about this topic but please read up like always (if your under the video)... i will end with these words- music is almost dead please don't bury it
@MinisculeMayhem LOL nice one. I would never say that music is dead or dying because there'll always be people who want to write it for its own sake but yeh, my ambition in life is to write music and hopefully contribute to the resurrection you mentioned under option 1. I've looked at the mainstream very carefully and I don't intend to do any burying.
I hear the terms "soul" and "heart" used often to describe music. I believe the people who use those expressions take themselves and their music way too seriously. Most often, people use words like that to demean forms of musical expression they deem to be unacceptable.
@theshzskate To each his own but to say that the Foo Fighters write songs with only 4 chords even as an exaggeration seems to me a very strange thing to say, especially seeing as how the majority of songs I hear on the radio would surely be better targets for that claim.
@Orygyn (1)Adele.She can actually sing and her songs don't have stupid lyrics.(2)Kesha.Autotune+stupid lyrics+no talent=Kesha.(3)Music has soul when,according to me,brings out the emotions of a singer.(4)Not much.I've heard only one song of theirs and they're pretty good.(5)Don't know much about it.
I think mainstream music today promotes, Ignorance, Misogyny, Arrogance, Stupidity, Being violent, Pretension, Lying, Laziness, Undeserved Wealth, Gay Panic,...
AND making songs supposedly about wanting somebody because you love them, BUT it's not love.
It's just lust. I think anyone who believes in those songs is likely either nieve, or a pathetic excuse for a person. I blame the Parents, The Media, and the people themselves. I hate these traits, and some people have them, so I hate those ppl.
Please shave yourself! Because you look a bit weird en stoned! And take a other haircut, i don't like you alto's with the endless whine about mainstream music.
When I think of soul in music I think of conveying emotion. Emotion is honest you're not getting honesty from people who are being controlled by record companies. You're also lacking the human element that conveys emotion when everything is electronic especially when it comes to vocals. Vocals are probably the most soulful aspect it is you pouring your emotion in the song with your unique voice. When you autotune it no longer sounds unique or human. Soul is true to one's self.
I say Ke$ha embodies what I hate most about today's popular music. While she is credited with writing her songs so are others which leaves to question how much she is actually doing. She uses massive amounts of autotune on all her songs, can she sing? probably not. He songs offer nothing new no originality and are obviously catering towards what is mainstream. It's not being performed by musicians it's all programmed.
When you edit vocal track, the actuall voice should remain in the sound. It shouldn't sound like robots singing and in the Lil Wayne music video I can hear him just talk and I can hear autotune doing it's job and I honestly feel embarassed for him. I just don't understand how someone can like something as awful as this. It dosen't sound good and it almost hurts my ears. And I'm not mentioning the vocal distortion in the verse to make his voice sound heavy.
@AlexiStark LOL. I heard a good one on X Factor. Will.I.Am from the Black Eyed Peas was performing I Got A Feeling (I despise that song) and either they forgot to turn on his autotune or they didn't intend to have it at first but for the 10 seconds it was off he REALLY sucked.
@Orygyn WOW. Looked it up and you were not kidding, that really was awful xD I mean, I'm not surprised, but I don't understand how someone who makes his living as a singer can be this horrible, he was as bad as the ones everyone makes fun of in other X factor and "idol" videos until they turned on the autotune.
I work in the recording studio and I was recently trying and experimenting with some vocal effects and software and trying out some vocal sounds (i too am a singer myself). And there is a line in, for example, autotune that i would never cross. When I watch music video I can pretty much tell if the vocal track have been doubbled or somehow edited and when I heard Da Da Da by Lil Wayne, I almost puked. I can actually hear him "singin" completely off the tune...
I like some mainstream music because it appeals to my ear. I like to sing to it, and I like to dance to it too. I dislike some mainstream music - mostly rap - because it's some guy screaming at me about how much his life sucks to a back beat that I don't enjoy. It's like a migraine.
Honestly, my biggest argument is that people get so caught up in mainstream versus not. For me, if I like the way it sounds, I listen to it. It shouldn't become a pissing match about who likes what.
#3, any music that conveys any kind of human emotion/thought expressed in an individual manner, as opposed to the processed, standardized sound of today which makes everybody sound like a replica of a replica of a replica. You can see them very well because they make sure you SEE them, have to sell, but you can hardly hear the person behind all the machinery and glitter. And let's not even get into the lyrical content because that's like trying to find a needle in a haystack. There's none.
I'd say most mainstream rap. I mean there are probably good rappers out there, but the mainstream have killed it for metalheads such as myself. I mean come on, do you need all that bling to feel good around your hoes and niggas?
I don't think people hate Nickelback as much as they think they do. I mean, don't get me wrong. I fucking hate them. But what really makes the hate so strong is how goddamn successful they are. Their shit appears to be be on the radio ALL THE TIME. They win EVERY CANADAIN MUSIC AWARD.
If I was at a bar and they were just some local band playing, I might say "These assholes play alright, but lol those lyrics are fucking garbage!!".
And here those assholes are.. with hit after hit after hit....
Why I hate All Rap music, they have absolutley no talent, They dont play any instruments, They use autotune, They Talk about theyre money , theyre women, how rich they are, and theyre making money off of it, Also agree with litlemadguitarist , Disney shit sucks, except for Demi lavoto , she actually has talent.
@Breaudy That's what I meant. Has someone been using a votebot to give you those thumbs up because all 19 thumbs up were there just 14 minutes after you left the comment.
@Orygyn 1st i heard of a Vote Bot thingy , maby its just Canadians protecting Nickle Back , LOL , they should spend their time thumbin Justin Bieber, down down down, geeze talk bout NO TALENT , damn all them gurly teens , LOL
3OH!3, I liked that band before they became Mainstream. Their first album was pretty good, but the new album they put out sounds like washed up Ke$ha. Quiet dissapointing. I like most of the music genres today. Anything from Death Metal to Dubstep.. Their is some good mainstream rap, alot of it sucks though. I dont know were im going with this. haha. either way I like music, I prefer non- main stream, Indie type stuff. Know any good bands letme know:)
I am going to make a video in response to this after my laptop gets back (I broke it at a drunk party, lol), but I must point out that I disagree with you on the Spotify concept. What with so many people listening to nearly nothing but what is "on the radio today," You'd get many more people listening to popular, shamelessly mainstream acts than people listening to acts such as Mastodon & Porcupine Tree.
Justin Bieber's songs get millions of views. Mastodon's get significantly less.
@TheAlanDeath Ah but that's the point. Do they actually listen to the songs or do they just get them to be cool because they were played at the club or whatever? The system I proposed would shed some light on the answer.
You say Jonas Brothers,I say Green Day.You say Eminem,I say Linkin Park
You say Lady Gaga,I sayFlyleaf.You say Taylor Swift,I say Breaking Benjamin
Yoy say Soulja Boy,I say 3 Doors Down
You say Justin Bieber,I say Three Days Grace
You say Black Eyed Peas,I say Halestorm.You say Flowers,I say Puddle of Mudd...
92% of todays youth have gone to rap and pop.If you are one of the 8% who still listen to REAL music,copy and paste this message to 5 other vids.
I don't really think I hate Nickleback.... I think I hate their fans. A lot of people you hope/expect to be able to relate to on musical preference will explain that they "love Nickleback" and simply put the only reason they seem to "love Nickleback" is because they are so popular. Simply put, they're sound has come and gone and it didn't really bring much with it; but now there are all of these "Nickleback drones", if you will, and they just "love Nickleback" not the music.
2.Lil'Wayne and Young money, because when a person thinks about rap/hip hop music they think that all rap/hip hop music is like that and wind up hatting all rap/hip hop music.(they are ruining rap/hip hop).
1.) What exactly is "mainstream?" A few bands that I really like were relatively unknown, but then they became radio-played a while later. Kings of Leon fit that bill.
2.) Mainstream music, I find, is quite vanilla. There's no real variety in either lyrical subject matter, tempo, time signature or chordal/melodic structure.
3.) Soul of music is particular feeling or emotion behind the lyrics and music. Does the artist actually feel what he/she is singing/playing or is it just regurgitation
4.) I hate Nickleback because I really dislike the lead's voice, the lyrics, and the copy/paste mentality of the chordal/melodic structure of their songs.
5.) I don't really know Spotify though I've heard of it. If chart makers incorporated internet plays like in Spotify or Last rather than relying exclusively on them, I think it would be an improvement.
@Orygyn hiya man, i often find that the no soul thing is just an excuse to say something negatvie about a band. Im a huge dream theater fan and people often say they have no soul when they cant think of any thing else bad to say about them. This is often also the case with many metal and progressive bands, people blindly say "they have no soul".
1. I really am not a fan of any mainstream musicians at the moment, Other than muse and paramore (If you choose to class them as mainstream).
The only mainstream artist that I can slightly tolerate would be Lady GaGa, She is fairly out there and I respect that.
2. The one band that embodies everything I hate would have to be Jimmy Eat World, Sure they are not played on the radio a lot, But they are just horrible live.
4. I respect that they are talented musicians, but I can not listen to them.
@PearlDrummer730 Muse sold out Wembley in 10 minutes so if that's not mainstream I don't know what is. I'd say Paramore's mainstream as well. Also yeh, I quite like Lady Gaga. I can see what you're saying about Jimmy Eat World.
2. Lady Gaga and Ke$ha-collaborators so they don't write all of their music. Lyrics are shallow and meaningless unless you're a drunk who pisses themselves to sleep every night
3. Empty synthetic beats that evoke no reaction or feeling, empty lyrics-"I threw in up in the closet and I don't care."
4. Not really, there's always that mainstream rock band that sucks from every decade. And they do write their own songs and play their own instruments
Nickelback take crap because they are going for the hard rock sound but in the mainstream; they are the commercial equivalent to the real thing. They aren't bad it is just stuck up musical purists (like myself :-\ ) don't like them. I suppose you could compare it to Black Metal. True black metal purists will despise bands such as Cradle Of Filth as they are not authentic.
@ultimateinfinite The irony is that ultimately any music form that grows in popularity falls prey to what Theodore Adorno called the "culture industry".
I think that most mainstream music (Pop, rap, R n b) is shit, since most of it is all the same. It's all about sex, or money, or crime etc. Most of the artists cannot sing and many are only popular because they are attractive. I prefer Indie Rock, older stuff like the Stones, and more obsucre stuff, like Gorillaz. I can't stand Justin Bieber. I thnik the soul of music is what the singer was thinking/feeling when they sang it. I'm impartial to Nickelback, and haven't hear of Spotify.
Paul Gray) Two guys I know, both Slipknot fans, were talking about this PG's death. Now these particular guys are not the brightest people, quite ignorant in fact, no concept of grammar, which seems fairly typical in my experience of slipknot fans. They went on to wonder about whether it was a "herion" overdose, and both misspelled it as such. I thought it was hilarious at the time, but certainly has me wondering how many fans of various acts only ended up fans because of Group Think. Thoughts?
@CMO999 A couple of things... 1) Fitting these responses isn't that easy, but that's not really why. 2) I'm certainly out of practice, and being somewhat of a poet, there's a certain ease to losing what little grammar proficiency I had. 3) I find that my writing often mimics whatever I'm reading (Which happens to be Walden. Thoreau loves his paragraph sentences.). 4) When I say that these two have no concept of grammar, I mean literally that.
@CMO999 [Cont.] Rarely are there any forms of punctuation in their typing, as well as many syntax errors. I'm only critical when people fail to use "The easy shit." I would now like to point out your lack of comma use. If you're going to point out my errors, then I will gladly point yours out as well. But I don't think we should get up in arms about this; that would be petty. I'll be sending you a friendlier PM.
5) Spotify is a lot like Rhapsody over here in the US. I think if they used software like this, it would certainly change the charts a lot, for better or worse is yet to be known. Although, I will say, they'd probably want to make it so you have to actually listen to the whole song, or at least to a certain percent of completion. You don't want people who aren't listening to the track 1000 times to give it 1000 pop points.
I don't really hate Nickelback. I'll even sing some of their songs that I hear on the radio, although their are some of their songs that I would never sing, but I would never spend any of my money on them. Nickelback is probably targeted specifically by people who have yet to come to terms with the fact that the Most Popular = Most Mediocre. People probably just want to be in their position, but also be considered worth a damn.
3) When it sounds like they don't know, or have never felt, whatever it is that the song is about, that's when I determine it to have no soul. It's a very strange thing, the song usually irritates me, where if it only sucked in my opinion, I probably wouldn't be irritated.
2) I dislike most of the mainstream, most of it has to do with values. I don't really like music that blatantly encourages materialism. At the same time, it doesn't help when Auto-tune is used on a song that it obviously doesn't compliment. Beyond that, it seems that their best music goes into their most vapid songs (and even then it holds no comparison to other genres).
1) I like "Drop the World" by lil Wayne and some of the rhymes I've heard in his other songs, although I really only listen when a friend plays his songs. I also like what I have heard of Lady Gaga. It's catchy, it's about sex, and she reminds me of Marilyn Manson in some of her videos (which feels weird to say about a Pop act).
4-I do hate Nickelback and really it's just because I find them annoying, they don't come across as people with something interesting to say, the lead singer's voice is sooo irritating and they're one of these bands that pretend to be rock where they do just cater to mainstream as you put it.
5- I LOVE spotify and do think it would be a better system, I would just be clicking on Nirvana a shitload ;)
3- Soul in music to me means originality, a sense of identity, something that stands out about a band, you don't need to nessasarily like them to see that thier lyrics mean something to them and that thier music means something to them. Where as pop and mainstream merley shit out the latest number 1 for the money.
1. Plenty. Metallica, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Dream Theater, Down, Pantera, Muse, Nirvana, In Flames, Motorhead..there's many more. Obviously a ton of rock/metal groups.
2. I do dislike current mainstream music, in general. I'm more talking about the genres that dominate the industry -- pop, hip hop and r&b. One good example is Justin Bieber.
3. soul = feel, originality, life
4. Nickelback isn't special, from the songs I've heard.
i mostly just dont like the sound of pop music right now, there are a few bands (such as Julien-K) that i do listen to that have a more 'popish' feel to them, but not much beyond. the biggest problem i have is the lyrics that most of the modern pop artists use in their music...
You may want to put an annotation explaining what Spotify is. It's not available in the US so many Americans won't know what you're talking about. I might do a video responding to this within the next couple days. I love talking about music :)
Music that doesn't stir my emotions is soul-less music.
Although this isn't necessarily a bad thing all the time. A song that is nothing but a guitar solo is a soul-less piece of work, just like a movie with nothing but explosions is a soul-less movie. Guitar solos are still good, just like action is still thrilling, but it's still more important that music WITH soul outweighs the amount of music WITHOUT soul. I don't think that balance exists in modern media however.
Shit, you can't blame one person for ruining an almost great decade of music. I for one blame how music videos and ringtone sales are the focus of profit, the tweenie bop prats for not even fuckin' trying to make music or last a few months, and the lack of balls on producers that give us safe shit like Jay Sean and Iyaz (Which are ok, just unremarkable)
@Entamrik Yeh. It's not someone who ruined the last decade of music because I don't believe that's the case. Just someone that embodies the worst aspects of it.
I think ti's probably the indie/hipster music that's going to define this upcoming decade. Hipster style stuff is a response to the over-seriousness and formulaic style of metal. Don't worry though because after Hipster gets big (the new wave of our time), it's grunge's turn to come back! Woot! Grunge is a response to the the flooziness of hipster (formally new wave) music. It's a cycle...
I think you're trying to logically and arithmetically understand why people like and dislike certain things. Why do you enjoy ultraviolet?
Now to understand hatred and group disgust... It's easy. Nickelback isn't bad, they're just mediocre. It's become an in joke to just hate them for being so bland. If a band is bad you can just forget it, but if it's bland that seems to mean more.
@Tommerman89 "I think you're trying to logically and arithmetically understand why people like and dislike certain things." That's the long term goal, yes. Also I don't like Ultraviolet, I haven't even sen it. I just got given the poster.
I don't think its possible to logically understand these things. If you do, you should examine how the brain functions in these things. I am certain that likes and dislikes are random and actually don't make any sense. I like a movie for the same reasons I dislike others... I admit it readily.
for instance. Avatar: I loved avatar because it was a very dream like and creative movie, and I admit it's story line was predictable and tepid.
I critiqued transformers, GI joe, and even the dark knight returns, because of this lack of genuine creativity in story line. in the dark knight, it was more critiqued for predictability. I still enjoyed that movie.
@Tommerman89 Well here's the thing. What you consciously perceive to be one factor (in this case the storyline) will probably instead be the amalgamation of several microfactors (i.e. the subtleties in each storyline) plus the added effects of unrelated factors. I'm not going to pretend that it's a simple job to understand likes and dislikes but I simply want to better understand it.
Many of the musicians back in the day were ugly, goofy liking, nerds. Many of them were not in their teens either; many were in their 30's and 40's. Now even (so called) rock bands are pretty boys. If these musicians focused more on learning to play their instruments, and writing decent songs, than about their cloths and dance moves (yes, even rock bands dance now), music would be in different place.
beachbum4166 5 days ago
@beachbum4166 While there are a lot like that, there are many that aren't.
Orygyn 5 days ago
and i like modest mouse because they really play music simmilar to music back in the day
Beatlesluvanumber9 1 week ago
do u like the beatles
Beatlesluvanumber9 1 week ago
@Beatlesluvanumber9 A few of their songs yeh. I'll check out Modest Mouse.
Orygyn 1 week ago
lol i only have 3 favorite rappers called asis,negrosaki,lupe.kanye was good too but then 2010 came...
KashgroundTM 4 weeks ago
@KashgroundTM Sounds good.
Orygyn 3 weeks ago
@KashgroundTM Negrosaki is one of the best!.... Alot of people needs to open their ears in listen to him......
semisweetlewis 1 day ago
@semisweetlewis It suprises me because he uses the same program as soulja boy lol
KashgroundTM 1 day ago
@KashgroundTM Really??? You mean Fl Studios???
semisweetlewis 1 day ago
@semisweetlewis ?well almost everyone uses fl studio lol...
KashgroundTM 1 day ago
I love beirut. They brought me into th new genre i learned called folk. Usually, every song i listen to is alwys indie... I search the song, love the song, wii the song an always comes back to indie. To what i think about mainstream music, their lyrics are non-sence.. Ive seen the music video of "im sexy and i know it" and saw a man shaking his groin. This is how i know that music today is fucked up. Thank you for reading my opinion.. I shall go back to rant videos.. -.-
ZimmerSquash 1 month ago
@ZimmerSquash LOL no problem.
Orygyn 1 month ago
I stopped listening to the mainstream carp when I knew what IS RADIOHEAD.
SuperRadioheaded 1 month ago
@SuperRadioheaded Radiohead will definitely go down in history as one of the more recent greats.
Orygyn 1 month ago
@SuperRadioheaded finally a person who knows what is radiohead
Sbodj 1 week ago
I finally quit insulting mainstream once I bought a Tyler the creator cd and a few others from odd future
TheSickamoreCULT 1 month ago
@TheSickamoreCULT LOL fair enough.
Orygyn 1 month ago
Mainstream just sucks all together. I fucking hate all these stupid artist like Justin bieber, any Disney star, or any pop star that only do it for the money. You hardly ever find an artist who truly plays for the music and doesn't give a shit about the rest. This is coming from a punk rocker
abcjohnlock1993 2 months ago
@abcjohnlock1993 In the mainstream yeh. Thanks.
Orygyn 2 months ago
1. No, not even close.
2. Lil Wayne / Soulja Boy, completely took the cake and a great representive of what killed my favourite genre, now it's all about money, women, cars and drugs and boasting about it.
Number one factor I hate about music is, the public, because the majority lean toward 'what's cool' and convince theirselves to like it, but what is 'cool' isn't cool at all. Because of this, bands / artists completely change and become alien to their roots.
Music is D.E.A.D.
3.
mrdanni 3 months ago
@mrdanni OK cool thanks.
Orygyn 3 months ago
IN A NUTSHELL...A BAND LIKE NICKELBACK...WOULDN'T EVEN BE A TOUGHT IN THE 70'S OR 80'S YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DOING... TODAY YOU'RE GOOD BECAUSE SOME GUY IN A SUIT SAYS YOU'RE GOOD AND ONCE THE BALL STARTS ROLLING YOUNG KIDS CAN'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES..AND GO WELL THE RADIO IS PLAYING THAT SONG SO IT MUST BE GOOD
wrabit79 3 months ago
@wrabit79 Fair enough.
Orygyn 3 months ago
One of the problems with Nickelback and so called 'Alternative' music in general was a split that happened in the early 90s. Alt music was co-opted by Corporate radio and mass marketed. People then saw bands like counting crows under alternative instead of mainstream which caused confusion. One thing should be noted was what was the dominant available drug during certain time periods which did effect music. Early to mid 80s was Coke, late 80s to early 90s was LSD, mid to late 90s was E and meth.
pneumatictrousers 4 months ago
Well I think Justin Beiber is probably more hated than Nickelback. It be a reaction of disgust when people see 300-500 million Beiber YT hits yet quite beautiful music may only have maybe 10k. In the USA, there is a similar shared sentiment that some sports star makes millions while another person will live a rather simple selfless humanitarian existence helping others yet gets little recognition or support which has brought upon public cynicism. Never underestimate the power of mass marketing!
pneumatictrousers 4 months ago
@pneumatictrousers Are you referring to the grunge revolution following the release of Nevermind? Yeh I'm with you on the selfless people get no recognition comment.
Orygyn 4 months ago
@Orygyn For clarity purposes, it should be understood that the grunge revolution ended around the time of Nevermind, not began. What was born out of that was the bastard twins of alternative music. The revolution I think you are referring to is the impact and aftermath of when for a brief moment the underground dominated. There was a naive hope that corporate radio was going to finally give voice to what a very large majority of youth wanted to hear. Instead they marketed the image as a cash cow
pneumatictrousers 4 months ago
@pneumatictrousers agree... to me the first grunge bands were jane's addition and mother love bone
wrabit79 3 months ago
@wrabit79 I am a fan of both bands but wouldn't consider them grunge.
pneumatictrousers 3 months ago
@metalwarriorMCMXCIII Yeh I would agree with that.
Orygyn 4 months ago
The mainstream rock/metal is just as shitty as the pop and rap. Example Bands: Paramore, Slipknot, iwrestledabearonce, Flyleaf, Evanescence, My Chemical Romance, Five Finger Death Punch, Bring Me the Horizon, Linkin Park and so on.
megaforce811 4 months ago
@megaforce811 While I agree, just naming examples would be the wrong way to go about justifying it.
Orygyn 4 months ago
@megaforce811 i like linkin park and paramore...
oween5 4 months ago
I like alot of mainstream metal but then again I hate alot of mainstream metal. I can't stand these butthurt fanboys who think it's wrong for people to hate their favorite bands but think it's ok to bash pop.
gothmetaler1989 4 months ago
@gothmetaler1989 Agreed.
Orygyn 4 months ago
Hating on the mainstream has become mainstream, making this action ironic.
flyersphan111 5 months ago
@flyersphan111 LOL.
Orygyn 5 months ago
Is slipknot mainstream?
Is avenged sevenfold mainstream?
Robloxtiarnan 5 months ago
@Robloxtiarnan Enough people have heard of Slipknot for that to be the case. I reckon it's similar with A7X.
Orygyn 5 months ago
Today I had a Nickle and I looked at the back of it and I screamed in rage
Bassisbeastiful 5 months ago
this is my position on music: it started as a glorious body that had a meaning and as technology grew it was like steroids for all aspects of this body however at a certain point more tech was put into this body eventually causing the body to OD this basically means more people came into the industry and polluted it with things that take no skill and have deeper meaning... this group acted like a parasite and caused their crap to spread all over the corpse however, some parts still hold good
MinisculeMayhem 8 months ago
@MinisculeMayhem things but these parts are VERY hidden and when they are exposed by unexpected events they are shunned (flashback to the arcade fire at the grammys) however now we are at a fork because there could be one of 3 things 1.music that takes skill and time to develop a meaning (the soul) makes a comeback and gradually brings life back to the body 2. the tech wins and reduces the corpse to an incoherent mess or 3. the struggle continues (most likely)... This is where the
MinisculeMayhem 8 months ago
@MinisculeMayhem number of views comes in because if the second thing happens than it will strengthen it however it could also help the people in the hidden pockets..... sorry about the long post i am passionate about this topic but please read up like always (if your under the video)... i will end with these words- music is almost dead please don't bury it
MinisculeMayhem 8 months ago
@MinisculeMayhem LOL nice one. I would never say that music is dead or dying because there'll always be people who want to write it for its own sake but yeh, my ambition in life is to write music and hopefully contribute to the resurrection you mentioned under option 1. I've looked at the mainstream very carefully and I don't intend to do any burying.
Orygyn 8 months ago
Did you get my video response?
Brando2600 8 months ago
@Brando2600 Yup thanks 8<{D-
Orygyn 8 months ago
I hear the terms "soul" and "heart" used often to describe music. I believe the people who use those expressions take themselves and their music way too seriously. Most often, people use words like that to demean forms of musical expression they deem to be unacceptable.
dissolvedcarrion 8 months ago
@dissolvedcarrion Good point.
Orygyn 8 months ago
If you dont write your own songs, if you need autotune to sing, and you lip sync live, then you dont deserve to be an artist/performer
8Eriquo8 9 months ago
@8Eriquo8 Fair enough.
Orygyn 9 months ago
i hate foo fighters because all there songs sound the same. its all 4 chord crap. everysingle song
theshzskate 9 months ago
@theshzskate To each his own but to say that the Foo Fighters write songs with only 4 chords even as an exaggeration seems to me a very strange thing to say, especially seeing as how the majority of songs I hear on the radio would surely be better targets for that claim.
Orygyn 9 months ago
@Orygyn (1)Adele.She can actually sing and her songs don't have stupid lyrics.(2)Kesha.Autotune+stupid lyrics+no talent=Kesha.(3)Music has soul when,according to me,brings out the emotions of a singer.(4)Not much.I've heard only one song of theirs and they're pretty good.(5)Don't know much about it.
scibloke 9 months ago
@scibloke Yeh Adele's awesome.
Orygyn 9 months ago
I think mainstream music today promotes, Ignorance, Misogyny, Arrogance, Stupidity, Being violent, Pretension, Lying, Laziness, Undeserved Wealth, Gay Panic,...
AND making songs supposedly about wanting somebody because you love them, BUT it's not love.
It's just lust. I think anyone who believes in those songs is likely either nieve, or a pathetic excuse for a person. I blame the Parents, The Media, and the people themselves. I hate these traits, and some people have them, so I hate those ppl.
FugeesTheScore 10 months ago 9
@FugeesTheScore Nice 8<{D-
Orygyn 10 months ago
Please shave yourself! Because you look a bit weird en stoned! And take a other haircut, i don't like you alto's with the endless whine about mainstream music.
martijnn2008 10 months ago
@martijnn2008 No.
Orygyn 10 months ago
When I think of soul in music I think of conveying emotion. Emotion is honest you're not getting honesty from people who are being controlled by record companies. You're also lacking the human element that conveys emotion when everything is electronic especially when it comes to vocals. Vocals are probably the most soulful aspect it is you pouring your emotion in the song with your unique voice. When you autotune it no longer sounds unique or human. Soul is true to one's self.
DTfanforever 11 months ago
@DTfanforever Thank you.
Orygyn 11 months ago
I say Ke$ha embodies what I hate most about today's popular music. While she is credited with writing her songs so are others which leaves to question how much she is actually doing. She uses massive amounts of autotune on all her songs, can she sing? probably not. He songs offer nothing new no originality and are obviously catering towards what is mainstream. It's not being performed by musicians it's all programmed.
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DTfanforever 11 months ago
When you edit vocal track, the actuall voice should remain in the sound. It shouldn't sound like robots singing and in the Lil Wayne music video I can hear him just talk and I can hear autotune doing it's job and I honestly feel embarassed for him. I just don't understand how someone can like something as awful as this. It dosen't sound good and it almost hurts my ears. And I'm not mentioning the vocal distortion in the verse to make his voice sound heavy.
AlexiStark 1 year ago
@AlexiStark LOL. I heard a good one on X Factor. Will.I.Am from the Black Eyed Peas was performing I Got A Feeling (I despise that song) and either they forgot to turn on his autotune or they didn't intend to have it at first but for the 10 seconds it was off he REALLY sucked.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn WOW. Looked it up and you were not kidding, that really was awful xD I mean, I'm not surprised, but I don't understand how someone who makes his living as a singer can be this horrible, he was as bad as the ones everyone makes fun of in other X factor and "idol" videos until they turned on the autotune.
AlexiStark 1 year ago
I work in the recording studio and I was recently trying and experimenting with some vocal effects and software and trying out some vocal sounds (i too am a singer myself). And there is a line in, for example, autotune that i would never cross. When I watch music video I can pretty much tell if the vocal track have been doubbled or somehow edited and when I heard Da Da Da by Lil Wayne, I almost puked. I can actually hear him "singin" completely off the tune...
AlexiStark 1 year ago
i almost barfed when i first heard kesha's we r who we r because of the awful autotune, it even made justin bieber look good.
CoreyHartRules 1 year ago
@CoreyHartRules Ah Kesha yes. *shudders*
Orygyn 1 year ago
i like micheal buble and some johnny reid and some david archuleta.
CoreyHartRules 1 year ago
@CoreyHartRules Awesome thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn oh and now i like greyson chance, if you haven't heard of him yet, check him out.
CoreyHartRules 1 year ago
@CoreyHartRules Will do.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I like some mainstream music because it appeals to my ear. I like to sing to it, and I like to dance to it too. I dislike some mainstream music - mostly rap - because it's some guy screaming at me about how much his life sucks to a back beat that I don't enjoy. It's like a migraine.
Honestly, my biggest argument is that people get so caught up in mainstream versus not. For me, if I like the way it sounds, I listen to it. It shouldn't become a pissing match about who likes what.
LoverlyLadyHatter 1 year ago
@LoverlyLadyHatter Agreed, thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
#3, any music that conveys any kind of human emotion/thought expressed in an individual manner, as opposed to the processed, standardized sound of today which makes everybody sound like a replica of a replica of a replica. You can see them very well because they make sure you SEE them, have to sell, but you can hardly hear the person behind all the machinery and glitter. And let's not even get into the lyrical content because that's like trying to find a needle in a haystack. There's none.
velconstantcraving 1 year ago 12
@velconstantcraving I wouldn't say none but I see your point.
Orygyn 1 year ago
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velconstantcraving 1 year ago
Justin Bieber sums up everything I hate about mainstream music!
Entertainment640 1 year ago
@Entertainment640 Cool thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I'd say most mainstream rap. I mean there are probably good rappers out there, but the mainstream have killed it for metalheads such as myself. I mean come on, do you need all that bling to feel good around your hoes and niggas?
EvenL33tland 1 year ago
@EvenL33tland LOL yeh.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I don't think people hate Nickelback as much as they think they do. I mean, don't get me wrong. I fucking hate them. But what really makes the hate so strong is how goddamn successful they are. Their shit appears to be be on the radio ALL THE TIME. They win EVERY CANADAIN MUSIC AWARD.
If I was at a bar and they were just some local band playing, I might say "These assholes play alright, but lol those lyrics are fucking garbage!!".
And here those assholes are.. with hit after hit after hit....
sexualburgerking 1 year ago
@sexualburgerking Yeh.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@JcGrimLord LOL.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Machineghosts like, but do you actually respect her?
MCSubliminalSol 1 year ago
Lady Fukin Gaga, some lyrics are just awful or cliche, but at least make ones that make some sense!
MCSubliminalSol 1 year ago
@MCSubliminalSol Not a lot of support for Lady Gaga on this video LOL.
Orygyn 1 year ago
Why I hate All Rap music, they have absolutley no talent, They dont play any instruments, They use autotune, They Talk about theyre money , theyre women, how rich they are, and theyre making money off of it, Also agree with litlemadguitarist , Disney shit sucks, except for Demi lavoto , she actually has talent.
mehdi24kobe 1 year ago
@mehdi24kobe Not all rap music fits that description, just a lot of the mainstream stuff. Still, fair play about the ones that do.
Orygyn 1 year ago
What I hate: AAAALL DYSNEY SHITHEADS ( The jonas brothers, Selena Gormez...) Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga...
litlemadguitarist 1 year ago
@litlemadguitarist Fair enough.
Orygyn 1 year ago
Nickle Back Rules , don't hate that Canadian band or i'll export ya a no talent like Justin Bieber , lol
Breaudy 1 year ago 24
@Breaudy Votebot?
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn Nope ! i is real , wow 19 thumbs ? invisible visiters eh ?
Breaudy 1 year ago
@Breaudy That's what I meant. Has someone been using a votebot to give you those thumbs up because all 19 thumbs up were there just 14 minutes after you left the comment.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn 1st i heard of a Vote Bot thingy , maby its just Canadians protecting Nickle Back , LOL , they should spend their time thumbin Justin Bieber, down down down, geeze talk bout NO TALENT , damn all them gurly teens , LOL
Breaudy 1 year ago
3OH!3, I liked that band before they became Mainstream. Their first album was pretty good, but the new album they put out sounds like washed up Ke$ha. Quiet dissapointing. I like most of the music genres today. Anything from Death Metal to Dubstep.. Their is some good mainstream rap, alot of it sucks though. I dont know were im going with this. haha. either way I like music, I prefer non- main stream, Indie type stuff. Know any good bands letme know:)
1DaAtATime 1 year ago
@1DaAtATime Nice. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I am going to make a video in response to this after my laptop gets back (I broke it at a drunk party, lol), but I must point out that I disagree with you on the Spotify concept. What with so many people listening to nearly nothing but what is "on the radio today," You'd get many more people listening to popular, shamelessly mainstream acts than people listening to acts such as Mastodon & Porcupine Tree.
Justin Bieber's songs get millions of views. Mastodon's get significantly less.
TheAlanDeath 1 year ago
@TheAlanDeath Ah but that's the point. Do they actually listen to the songs or do they just get them to be cool because they were played at the club or whatever? The system I proposed would shed some light on the answer.
Orygyn 1 year ago
You say Jonas Brothers,I say Green Day.You say Eminem,I say Linkin Park
You say Lady Gaga,I sayFlyleaf.You say Taylor Swift,I say Breaking Benjamin
Yoy say Soulja Boy,I say 3 Doors Down
You say Justin Bieber,I say Three Days Grace
You say Black Eyed Peas,I say Halestorm.You say Flowers,I say Puddle of Mudd...
92% of todays youth have gone to rap and pop.If you are one of the 8% who still listen to REAL music,copy and paste this message to 5 other vids.
sooriginalful 1 year ago
@sooriginalful 1. There is no such thing as "REAL" music. It's all music.
2. Don't judge entire genres of music by their most commercially minded performers.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I don't really think I hate Nickleback.... I think I hate their fans. A lot of people you hope/expect to be able to relate to on musical preference will explain that they "love Nickleback" and simply put the only reason they seem to "love Nickleback" is because they are so popular. Simply put, they're sound has come and gone and it didn't really bring much with it; but now there are all of these "Nickleback drones", if you will, and they just "love Nickleback" not the music.
mindstain75 1 year ago
@mindstain75 roflmao to put it simply....
mindstain75 1 year ago
@mindstain75 LOL. Possibly.
Orygyn 1 year ago
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hellbillyhound 1 year ago
@hellbillyhound You forgot [];'#,./
Orygyn 1 year ago
1. None at the moment
2.Lil'Wayne and Young money, because when a person thinks about rap/hip hop music they think that all rap/hip hop music is like that and wind up hatting all rap/hip hop music.(they are ruining rap/hip hop).
radewi1 1 year ago
@radewi1 Very good point about Lil' Wayne.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn Thank you
radewi1 1 year ago
1.) What exactly is "mainstream?" A few bands that I really like were relatively unknown, but then they became radio-played a while later. Kings of Leon fit that bill.
2.) Mainstream music, I find, is quite vanilla. There's no real variety in either lyrical subject matter, tempo, time signature or chordal/melodic structure.
3.) Soul of music is particular feeling or emotion behind the lyrics and music. Does the artist actually feel what he/she is singing/playing or is it just regurgitation
abbynormal0ne 1 year ago
@abbynormal0ne
4.) I hate Nickleback because I really dislike the lead's voice, the lyrics, and the copy/paste mentality of the chordal/melodic structure of their songs.
5.) I don't really know Spotify though I've heard of it. If chart makers incorporated internet plays like in Spotify or Last rather than relying exclusively on them, I think it would be an improvement.
abbynormal0ne 1 year ago
@abbynormal0ne Kings of Leon I would say are definitely mainstream. Excellent answers. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn hiya man, i often find that the no soul thing is just an excuse to say something negatvie about a band. Im a huge dream theater fan and people often say they have no soul when they cant think of any thing else bad to say about them. This is often also the case with many metal and progressive bands, people blindly say "they have no soul".
SystematicChaos08 1 year ago
@SystematicChaos08 I thought that might be the case. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
1. I really am not a fan of any mainstream musicians at the moment, Other than muse and paramore (If you choose to class them as mainstream).
The only mainstream artist that I can slightly tolerate would be Lady GaGa, She is fairly out there and I respect that.
2. The one band that embodies everything I hate would have to be Jimmy Eat World, Sure they are not played on the radio a lot, But they are just horrible live.
4. I respect that they are talented musicians, but I can not listen to them.
PearlDrummer730 1 year ago
@PearlDrummer730 Muse sold out Wembley in 10 minutes so if that's not mainstream I don't know what is. I'd say Paramore's mainstream as well. Also yeh, I quite like Lady Gaga. I can see what you're saying about Jimmy Eat World.
Orygyn 1 year ago
1. None. Maybe One Republic
2. Lady Gaga and Ke$ha-collaborators so they don't write all of their music. Lyrics are shallow and meaningless unless you're a drunk who pisses themselves to sleep every night
3. Empty synthetic beats that evoke no reaction or feeling, empty lyrics-"I threw in up in the closet and I don't care."
4. Not really, there's always that mainstream rock band that sucks from every decade. And they do write their own songs and play their own instruments
5. Don't know them.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
@Sshelly34213 Excellent answers. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn No problem!
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
Nickelback take crap because they are going for the hard rock sound but in the mainstream; they are the commercial equivalent to the real thing. They aren't bad it is just stuck up musical purists (like myself :-\ ) don't like them. I suppose you could compare it to Black Metal. True black metal purists will despise bands such as Cradle Of Filth as they are not authentic.
ultimateinfinite 1 year ago
@ultimateinfinite The irony is that ultimately any music form that grows in popularity falls prey to what Theodore Adorno called the "culture industry".
ultimateinfinite 1 year ago
@ultimateinfinite Yeah good point.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@ultimateinfinite Yeah good point.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@ultimateinfinite Yeah good point.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I think that most mainstream music (Pop, rap, R n b) is shit, since most of it is all the same. It's all about sex, or money, or crime etc. Most of the artists cannot sing and many are only popular because they are attractive. I prefer Indie Rock, older stuff like the Stones, and more obsucre stuff, like Gorillaz. I can't stand Justin Bieber. I thnik the soul of music is what the singer was thinking/feeling when they sang it. I'm impartial to Nickelback, and haven't hear of Spotify.
MrMel242 1 year ago
@MrMel242 Nice. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@MrMel242 Yea but Bieber is for 12 year olds whereas Lady Gaga and ke$ha are supposed to be marketed to my age group (20s)
It's absurd, all of this stuff sounds like some 12 year old fiddled on a keyboard.
Sshelly34213 1 year ago
Paul Gray) Two guys I know, both Slipknot fans, were talking about this PG's death. Now these particular guys are not the brightest people, quite ignorant in fact, no concept of grammar, which seems fairly typical in my experience of slipknot fans. They went on to wonder about whether it was a "herion" overdose, and both misspelled it as such. I thought it was hilarious at the time, but certainly has me wondering how many fans of various acts only ended up fans because of Group Think. Thoughts?
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
@D3vilz4dvocate LOL. That's a serious number of comments you posted. About Slipknot, maybe. It's certainly worth looking into.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn If had given answers simple enough to fit 1 or 2 500 character responses, they wouldn't do my position much justice.
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
@D3vilz4dvocate Oh yeah if you're so critical of other's grammar skills then what is with your run on sentences and comma errors?
CMO999 1 year ago
@CMO999 A couple of things... 1) Fitting these responses isn't that easy, but that's not really why. 2) I'm certainly out of practice, and being somewhat of a poet, there's a certain ease to losing what little grammar proficiency I had. 3) I find that my writing often mimics whatever I'm reading (Which happens to be Walden. Thoreau loves his paragraph sentences.). 4) When I say that these two have no concept of grammar, I mean literally that.
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
@D3vilz4dvocate I know, I was making a joke.
CMO999 1 year ago
@CMO999 [Cont.] Rarely are there any forms of punctuation in their typing, as well as many syntax errors. I'm only critical when people fail to use "The easy shit." I would now like to point out your lack of comma use. If you're going to point out my errors, then I will gladly point yours out as well. But I don't think we should get up in arms about this; that would be petty. I'll be sending you a friendlier PM.
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
5) Spotify is a lot like Rhapsody over here in the US. I think if they used software like this, it would certainly change the charts a lot, for better or worse is yet to be known. Although, I will say, they'd probably want to make it so you have to actually listen to the whole song, or at least to a certain percent of completion. You don't want people who aren't listening to the track 1000 times to give it 1000 pop points.
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
I don't really hate Nickelback. I'll even sing some of their songs that I hear on the radio, although their are some of their songs that I would never sing, but I would never spend any of my money on them. Nickelback is probably targeted specifically by people who have yet to come to terms with the fact that the Most Popular = Most Mediocre. People probably just want to be in their position, but also be considered worth a damn.
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
3) When it sounds like they don't know, or have never felt, whatever it is that the song is about, that's when I determine it to have no soul. It's a very strange thing, the song usually irritates me, where if it only sucked in my opinion, I probably wouldn't be irritated.
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
2) I dislike most of the mainstream, most of it has to do with values. I don't really like music that blatantly encourages materialism. At the same time, it doesn't help when Auto-tune is used on a song that it obviously doesn't compliment. Beyond that, it seems that their best music goes into their most vapid songs (and even then it holds no comparison to other genres).
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
1) I like "Drop the World" by lil Wayne and some of the rhymes I've heard in his other songs, although I really only listen when a friend plays his songs. I also like what I have heard of Lady Gaga. It's catchy, it's about sex, and she reminds me of Marilyn Manson in some of her videos (which feels weird to say about a Pop act).
D3vilz4dvocate 1 year ago
4-I do hate Nickelback and really it's just because I find them annoying, they don't come across as people with something interesting to say, the lead singer's voice is sooo irritating and they're one of these bands that pretend to be rock where they do just cater to mainstream as you put it.
5- I LOVE spotify and do think it would be a better system, I would just be clicking on Nirvana a shitload ;)
piemakesmelol 1 year ago
@piemakesmelol Excellent. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
3- Soul in music to me means originality, a sense of identity, something that stands out about a band, you don't need to nessasarily like them to see that thier lyrics mean something to them and that thier music means something to them. Where as pop and mainstream merley shit out the latest number 1 for the money.
piemakesmelol 1 year ago
LONG LIVE GRUNGE...yeah I'm still not over Kurt :(
1.I'm not sure how "mainstream" they can be called but considering that they are in the charts etc I'll go with Biffy Clyro.
2.Jonas Brothers are everything that I hate about modern music. Inoffensive, cheesey, created simply for the purpose of making money.
piemakesmelol 1 year ago
1. Plenty. Metallica, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Dream Theater, Down, Pantera, Muse, Nirvana, In Flames, Motorhead..there's many more. Obviously a ton of rock/metal groups.
2. I do dislike current mainstream music, in general. I'm more talking about the genres that dominate the industry -- pop, hip hop and r&b. One good example is Justin Bieber.
3. soul = feel, originality, life
4. Nickelback isn't special, from the songs I've heard.
5.Not sure, haven't heard..
metlguitar02 1 year ago
@metlguitar02 Awesome. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
Mainstream music sucks because its poorly written sparkled shit songs, sang by overrated cunts who only want money.
MunicipalDude 1 year ago
@MunicipalDude LOL. Fair enough.
Orygyn 1 year ago
i mostly just dont like the sound of pop music right now, there are a few bands (such as Julien-K) that i do listen to that have a more 'popish' feel to them, but not much beyond. the biggest problem i have is the lyrics that most of the modern pop artists use in their music...
APJleader 1 year ago
@APJleader Cool.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Machineghosts LOL. Nice.
Orygyn 1 year ago
You may want to put an annotation explaining what Spotify is. It's not available in the US so many Americans won't know what you're talking about. I might do a video responding to this within the next couple days. I love talking about music :)
theradioschizo 1 year ago
@theradioschizo Ah. Thanks Danny, I guess I assumed it was released globally.
Orygyn 1 year ago
Music that doesn't stir my emotions is soul-less music.
Although this isn't necessarily a bad thing all the time. A song that is nothing but a guitar solo is a soul-less piece of work, just like a movie with nothing but explosions is a soul-less movie. Guitar solos are still good, just like action is still thrilling, but it's still more important that music WITH soul outweighs the amount of music WITHOUT soul. I don't think that balance exists in modern media however.
ApplesFallFromTrees 1 year ago
@ApplesFallFromTrees OK. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
Shit, you can't blame one person for ruining an almost great decade of music. I for one blame how music videos and ringtone sales are the focus of profit, the tweenie bop prats for not even fuckin' trying to make music or last a few months, and the lack of balls on producers that give us safe shit like Jay Sean and Iyaz (Which are ok, just unremarkable)
Entamrik 1 year ago
@Entamrik Yeh. It's not someone who ruined the last decade of music because I don't believe that's the case. Just someone that embodies the worst aspects of it.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I think ti's probably the indie/hipster music that's going to define this upcoming decade. Hipster style stuff is a response to the over-seriousness and formulaic style of metal. Don't worry though because after Hipster gets big (the new wave of our time), it's grunge's turn to come back! Woot! Grunge is a response to the the flooziness of hipster (formally new wave) music. It's a cycle...
JesusChristEarthworm 1 year ago
@JesusChristEarthworm I suppose.
Orygyn 1 year ago
I think you're trying to logically and arithmetically understand why people like and dislike certain things. Why do you enjoy ultraviolet?
Now to understand hatred and group disgust... It's easy. Nickelback isn't bad, they're just mediocre. It's become an in joke to just hate them for being so bland. If a band is bad you can just forget it, but if it's bland that seems to mean more.
Tommerman89 1 year ago
@Tommerman89 "I think you're trying to logically and arithmetically understand why people like and dislike certain things." That's the long term goal, yes. Also I don't like Ultraviolet, I haven't even sen it. I just got given the poster.
Interesting thoughts about Nickelback. Thanks.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn
I don't think its possible to logically understand these things. If you do, you should examine how the brain functions in these things. I am certain that likes and dislikes are random and actually don't make any sense. I like a movie for the same reasons I dislike others... I admit it readily.
noble goal though.
Tommerman89 1 year ago
@Tommerman89 Thanks. Can you give examples?
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn
for instance. Avatar: I loved avatar because it was a very dream like and creative movie, and I admit it's story line was predictable and tepid.
I critiqued transformers, GI joe, and even the dark knight returns, because of this lack of genuine creativity in story line. in the dark knight, it was more critiqued for predictability. I still enjoyed that movie.
Tommerman89 1 year ago
@Tommerman89 Well here's the thing. What you consciously perceive to be one factor (in this case the storyline) will probably instead be the amalgamation of several microfactors (i.e. the subtleties in each storyline) plus the added effects of unrelated factors. I'm not going to pretend that it's a simple job to understand likes and dislikes but I simply want to better understand it.
Orygyn 1 year ago
@Orygyn kay, well keep posting on this topic. I hope you make a video with your findings and I hope that I helped in some way.
good luck man.
Tommerman89 1 year ago
@Tommerman89 You did. Thanks, will do.
Orygyn 1 year ago