Wayne Shorter - Children of The Night Solo

[starfly7]

Ah to be young and in your prime, at the height of your talents..........

[TruheadzaNo]

GIANTSTEP



[oceanrage]

solo



[oceanrage]

i would like to study the progressions of his sole, kinda sounds like Giant Steps

[Jazzguitar00]

@oceanrage Those are ii-Vs in minor thirds, not major thirds like Giant Steps. Definitely worth learning.

[kquinn59]

Too Cool for words! you can hear Wayne's style that was so prominant in Weather Report years later...really great stuff..

[jazzuffe]

Is 78 today, 110825. So great.

[rmauran]

I love how Blakey's ride stand slides down and the trombonist comes to the rescue! Been there!

[Nail33]

3 dislikes.. weird 

[blackandtanful]

早くも独特､彼特有のソロが!～ｼﾞｬｽﾞ･ﾒｯｾﾝｼﾞｬｰｽ­ﾞ在籍時のｳｪｲﾝ･ｼｮｰﾀｰの貴重映像～御大ﾌﾞﾚｲｷｰが­きっちり煽ってる! #jazzm

[psychelectronic]

good times! magnificent ...

[unclejunglebass]

everybody needs to check out the jazz messengers album FREE FOR ALL. wayne blows EVERYONE off the bandstand, even his boss. one of the greatest saxophone performances ever.

[sicilianbabe8]

Great!! Shorter is barely 20 y/o and he was a prodegy...plays like he is set on fire.

I want more...I never saw his days with Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers. Thanks.

[decus69]

yeah, where is the rest?

[danreitz]

Can you upload the whole recording?

[jamesedwardtheobald]

man he takes off on the last minute of that solo. wonder if he ever jammed with trane, that would be interesting!

[danksam11]

@jamesedwardtheobald you should read his bio. him and trane used to practice violin conciertos together!

[redtone11]

& it all goes back to this. Don't listen to the music, hear the music.

[greenrx]

I haven't heard much of his playing from this earlier part of his career. I think I hear a bit of Coltrane influence if I'm not mistaken.

[anandanaga999]

He knocked  his ride cymabal over.. Did ya' see that?

[meepmeepXroadrunner]

@anandanaga999 Haha yeah at 2:59 ish

then the next clip is a close up on Blakey, but they're really careful to not show that

[anandanaga999]

That, Is so Fine.

[vastusinternus]

Classic Shorter!!! Freaking Awesome.

[somaditya75]

This is truly an amazing piece of music...amazing Wayne Shorter...

[Jazzdog40]

That's not Freddie Hubbard!

[pzcato]

@Jazzdog40 uh...yeah it is.

[LTdrumma]

damn dah cymbal be fallin off man why u gotta play so hard art

[mumbleora]

@LTdrumma It was once said, by one of the messengers that (I'm paraphasing" "Playing with Art behind you, pushing you, was like being 2 steps in front of a steam roller, if you felt you couldn't keep up, you'd better end your solo or get ran over".

..the mighty, mighty, Art Blakey damn knew how to do his thing.

[nickanon]

GREAT STUFF!

[pzcato]

blakey was a beast

[vinvid2u]

Tremendous!

[legiterally]

4/4

[AzWeThInKwEizZ]

Can anyone tell me the time signature of this song? I'm trying to learn music theory, and I find that time signature is one the hardest things to cover.

[McDutchy]

@AzWeThInKwEizZ Uh, 4/4? Just feel the beat. If it feels natural to say one-two-three-four, then it's probably in 4.

[julesmonendrumface]

the stand of his ride cymbal go,s down:P at 2:56

[syrius63]

This IS where Wayne wrote it, it was only later when he rearranged it on Highlife that he moved it up a half step.

[edweissguy]

Anybody have any theories on why the Messengers play this tune a half step down from where Shorter wrote it? On the video of Shorter playing this tune in Italy in 1995, the band is in the higher key...

[SIHELL]

To reinvent a newer sound

[edweissguy]

Basically, that must be right, but I'm still curious whose idea it was. To give you a similar example, Duke Ellington copyrighted the "East St. Louis Toodle-Oo" in one key, but by the time the band was recording it, they had moved it into a key that lay better for the horn solos. I don't think that applies here, so why the different key? It was probably Shorter's idea, or at least he agreed to it, being the song's composer...

[jrossutubeedt2]

NERD.

[MSilberman]

It might just be that one of the recordings is sped up or slowed down. I learned a solo from a live Miles recording that they played Walkin' in F# even though he usually played it in F. Sometimes the tapes get messed up and it ends up being pitched differently.

[claragary]

You're right.

It seems that both of them were experimenting with that matrix.

[Fartonoldppl]

Im writing s musicology research essay for my music major work for the last yr of high school, and am thinking of doing one about the various infkuences evident in shorters music, particularly in the album juju, including africasn asian influences of cotrane and more if i can find stuff?

any suggestions of some good sources/ listening?

[OneBigMyoma]

Definitely listen to any recordings of Coltrane playing soprano. My Favorite Things, for one. I don't think either of them were really emulating any particular kind of Asian music, but rather exploring different kinds of sounds on the saxophone. Pharoah Sanders was big into that shit, too.

[ChrisnSnoop]

@OneBigMyoma

Asian and African music definitely influenced Coltrane. Probably Shorter, too. They were trying different things on the sax BY learning all kinds of different styles of music. It wasn't random.

[sclogse1]

I heard the live version of afro blue on my local broke 3rd world station, KPOO, here in the bay area...man, coltrane live is the best for me...WHen Weather Report's first album came out, I was 20 years old and in the army, and I was Ready for it, having wiped out my copies of bitches brew and Live Evil...yeah, I didn't own a single Shorter album at the time...anyway, that fist Weather Report album came out, and simply told me I was exactly where I should be.

[jacofan12609]

At this time Shorter seems somewhat reminiscent of John Coltrane. Or am I crazy?

[cesarcamba1]

To me the phrasing sounds a lot like the solo in Giant Steps, 1960.

[jegerenprut]

yes...:)

[stancliffbuxley]

Blakey's ride symbol starts falling around minute 3:58. Like a true player, he takes it in stride! GREAT!

[brenda7446]

buying most of the lp's by shorter,and blakey, and the other jazz messenger's hearing this video seeing this,takes me back to those days.i had a good time.

Hafeez

[Rugt980]

his improvisation is very abstract, but awesome...

[bennysaxe]

at 3:46 he does the sickest little overtone type thing and then he busts the illest line I haven't heard Wayne bust out chops like that!!

He's one of my favorite of all time, he's one of my guiding lights. I have been feeling like shit lately and I think I will turn back to the music of Wayne for some guidance.

[csilva85]

Actually that display of 'chops' was not uncommon for Wayne in the Messengers...check out the album "Free for All" if you want more...if you have not already heard it...

Writers have described his style during the Messengers as "whip-saw"...Blakey

called it "scrambled eggs" but you're probably already aware of that....

[number1trumpet]

Hey "saliva85" I don't get all your talk about chain saws and scrambled eggs. It's about the music, man. Let's stay on point.

[csilva85]

Too bad you missed the "point"...you should perhaps do a little more research

before you apread your negativity....

But, getting back "on point": actually,

you ARE correct - you didn't "get it".......

Hopefully, you'll read the comments more carefully.......

[number1trumpet]

I just think you can over analyze, "saliva85". Some people leave long, involved comments on our videos. I prefer it when they just say something like, "You guys are great!" and be done with it.

[csilva85]

You could make this point without being insulting as well..............man.

[Dyintryin]

then you should re read what the comment actually says.

[number1trumpet]

Read, schmead, its always the same. To me, the guys on these old black and white clips never sound as good as my own band's videos. Hey "stinkinanddrinkin", I guess I just need a more MODERN sound.

[mymusicdiscovery]

@bennysaxe for sure! fast man

[BorisTHEgypsy]

this song's on the mosaic album from bluenote. but listen to 'free for all' on the album of the same title. its the best ever from this group. i mean it man it is the best ever. alfred, francis and rudy would've been mesmerised when they recorded that session at Englewood.

[jmet718]

classic

[BrunoJazzmanLeicht]

THX GALORE -- on my blog (see profile), you will find a nice appraisal of Freddie.

See you,

Bruno Leicht

[readi1]

good god

[effclef06]

pure genius.....then he records this tune in 1995 with marcus and the orchestra, sounds amazing. wayne's blowing is incomparable....just wow!!!

[SalaupeVierge]

ho respectable à 100%

[himynameississy]

shorter has a very coltrane-like sound here, he has a similar tone and phrases like him, he makes it his own, but you can see the influence. one of the best

[birdlives2000]

wow art blakey just pounding out the beat

[coltrane8622]

excellent

[ricisrock]

wayne and trane, gets no better

[adiclm29]

Shorter is the greatest sax player of all time. he puts his heart and soul into whatever he is playing and makes it sound glorious.

[BlueTrane5]

I don't think you can say he is greatest sax player of all time, but he is one of them. Once you reach this high of a level there is no "best" only different.

[adiclm29]

true. but he is the best in my own little world.

[videolover61]

Freddie and Curtis is supposed to be doing steps behind Wayne solos...you know like the Pips...

[airjor1]

The great! Wayne Shorter.

[anonymous0s0egion]

this song is amazing, its a damn shame there arent many groups like this nowadays. jazz in my opinion is one of the greatest forms of music.

[Notespompon]

@anonymous0s0egion In everyones opinion jazz is the best form of music.. haha

[Darrell1019]

@anonymous0s0egion Hear-hear, & Amen!

[ianayers]

hey dec15, contemplation is a mccoy tyner tune.

[tayottt]

Gosh I love Wayne Shorter, he is perhaps one of the most underrated improvisationists, probably because Miles/Herbie was the man in Weather Report. Wayne Shorter is even better at composing. Juju and Speak No Evil are classics. Hard Bop is an artform, So refreshing to hear it.

[dec15]

Wayne Shorter could always get a sound out of the tenor saxophone that went straight to my heart and its plaintiveness makes me want to cry.

[jwalkam]

yes!! thats true dec 15,there's is one that does that to me alot!!,check out "contemplation" on art blakey and the jazz messenger's "buhania delight!!"

[dec15]

"CONTEMPLATION," of course. One of Wayne's most sensitive compositions. An Old friend loved the recording so much I made sure it was played at his funeral. No doubt another reason that Wayne Shorter sounds wrings my heart.

[jwalkam]

wow dec 15,thats very deep bro!!,i met a lady in trinidad,my first trip there.we fell in love,but to see her again would take another year,cause she didnt have a visa,she was very beautiful so leaving her to come home was painful.i put on my ipod and listen to contemplation and it hit me hard i cried all the way back to the bahamas.but next year i returned to see her again. on the plane i played the tune upon my arrival,and to see her again?!!,man!! it was like a happy love-story ending to me!!

[jazzflutist]

You guys still together now? Don't tell me, you tried playing Donna Lee on your tenor in double time and didn't make the changes, so she left you. Or, she was so impressed she threw out all her Charlie Parker records and jumped into your lap. Trying to figure out this love story ...

[jwalkam]

lol,no she left.didnt make the changes!!lol.

[raynoma1]

funny stuff....lol "Donna lee in double time"

[27boof]

That's beautiful!

[jazzflutist]

I agree. I also like Branford Marsalis' sound, and Dexter Gordon (different approach), and Hank Mobley, and Coltrane of course.

[thebassguy9083]

you have to have no taste or musical ability

you wouldnt get to where these guys were if you studied music for the rest of your life

[king3bsgx]

art blakey always plays too loud... dang...

[thetornado]

He rushes too.

[gareth68]

M8, art blakey is well knownfor his time. . If you carryed on listening the time goes back to the begining time. it was meant to happen and it worked so SHUT UP!!

[cookieyee]

you suck man. Art Blakey is one of the most musical and swinging drummers of all time. Not to mention a great band leader.

[u89worlds]

sound inspiration. makes my teeth feel good.

[hoodoojazz]

absolutely beautiful! and the comment below is most correct regarding blakey swing. swung, out!!

[BassThrasher]

Art Blakey could outswing any modern drummer playing a full size kit, with two pencils and a pot.

[LeJazzeur]

Shorter is my hero and i am a saxophonist :-p

[pnebenzahl]

...one of the great writers of our age.

[rthmjohn]

shorter is my hero.... and I'm not even a saxophonist, I'm a drummer

[kidkitna]

Serious chops right here!!

[Carehuea]

I've got the feeling that the people who complain about Wayne's soloing (the way he sounds now) seem to expect every solo to just rip and only like players with lots of chops,etc... May I recommend to all of you then to check out fusion and leave Jazz for those of us who listen for imagination, melodic ingenuity and feeling. Not wanting to be a smartarse. Just sick of all the childish comments.

[6erAnimeBassist]

ok, accept your saying fusion is a chopfest, i disagree, there is a lot of fusion that is but that can certianly be said for straighter jazz, bebop, hardbop and whatnot. And Wayne along with Zawinul just happened to play in THE jazz fusion band know as Weather Report. In my opinion thats where the majority of his and Zawinuls great writing imagination, melodic ingenuity and feeling happened ( to use your words).

[seanmckay6]

oh snap, @ 3:00 Blakey's ride gives in to his unstoppable time!  BTW Shorter is god

[jazzfunkrockmetalguy]

Wayne Shorter is the fucking king, his harmonies in some of his songs are insane, check out some the chords used in his compositions, there insane

[Jazzguitar00]

Anybody who says Wayne can't improvise, don't get it. He's even said in interviews that he's past stepping out with his past licks at shows, and he's really just letting anything happen. I think that's why this sounds so killer, because he's going off things he's already worked out and doing less experimenting. Wayne is always trying to go somewhere new, and more recently, that's what he's been doing in his solos, not using licks or anything.

[jaikwillis]

This is my favoorite period of his playing, yes check Free For All, also check out the Indestructible LP too with Blakey this guy is the tops. I think his playing is as good as his composing. Lee Morgan to my ears really beat him up for awhile in this group and really pushed him to be as great as he was by this point in 63. Though even Introducing Wayne Shorter, his first LP is really classic

[sicilianbabe8]

I agree! This shit is TIGHT! Wayne Shorter is one of the greatest jazz composers alive today. He is really young here too.....hey I bet he is barely20 y/o---no kidding. Think about it. In the early 1960's, people were watching Leave It To Beaver and Guilligan's Island and this music was NOT mainstream. It still isn't and way advanced by today's standards of the taste of the popular American Culture. I am working to keep Jazz as an ARTFORM now ....join me whereever you are!!

[patnq]

Yeah, wayne is not only a brilliant composer but one of the greatest improvisers (as opposed to just playing his top licks over the changes) I've ever heard - I'm surprised that some people commenting still don't seem to get it! Anyway, agree with you about jazz!

[bdrhythm]

sicilianbabe

It's nice and tight, just the way I like it! But seriouslessly, it's tight because these guys were ALWAYS gigging. That means, back in da 50s/60s there were gigs and these guys were kept busy. Now, there are more players and less opportunities. It's brutal trying to make a living now--brutal! Also, I'm glad yer keepin jazz as an artform; I'm keepin it as a pet, but I'll happily join you for a drink and you can visit my pet jazz and I'll visit yer artform. rhythm-of-life

[akaceejay]

Correction! Having seen Wayne Shorter several times as a member of the Jazz Msgr. this is typical of the way he played then. Check out his solo on the title song of the Free For All album.

[iltromboncini32]

Yeah - see on 2:58 where Blakey's left cymbal topples over! He switches to the right one while Curtis Fuller sets it back up later!

[futboler454]

I don't understand why people say his playing isn't on par with his composing at any point in his career. He's playing the shit out of this tune.

[rambo1515]

He plays good, but his composing is incredible. I would have to agree that his playing isn't as good as his composing. Even though he is playing really good here!

[parrot2305]

Your kidding right? If you think about it, he composes every time he plays.

[rambo1515]

thats true. but if you look at the chord changes he writes, thats more of what i was talking about. but ya i know what your saying

[veegez]

Cat could play, but I agree, his composing is untouchable. This one rocks straight away.

[Gweebo]

Hmm, nice video but that doesn't sound like Shorter's typical sax playing.

[kaihelalahai]

Great damn vid!! I always thought this song sounded like a variation of Coltrane's Moment's Notice.

[CrunkPopeye]

shit is tight

[SebCo77]

Blakey's ride playing is so powerful -

watch 2:58...

[scarface000000000000]

LOL

[Modernjazz1]

Sweet, thanks for posting. One of my favourite tunes that Shorter composed for the Jazz Messengers.