@jesseclifton "Genghis Khan, but without the ye" separate the two names, Genghis and Khan, and add ye to the Khan. You'll end up with "Khanye," which sounds the name of the famous rapper, Kanye West.
"But his last name's my side" Lupe is from the West Side area of Chicago. It should be self explanatory from here.
Ok first off wayne is shit, dont bring up that Carter ll Bullshit he uses ghost writers, dont even try to say he has style, flow and punchlines, O'l Dirty Bastard had style, nate dog had flow, big l had punchlines weezy isnt even close to what they can do. his voice sounds like shit and his metaphors are as deep as a fucking puddle. Lupe is the number one lyricist out there right now and probably one ever, to prove my point listen to failure by lupe and lollipop by wayne.
I'm just an unselfish person genuinely trying to help and speaking on the current state of our world. If I'm not part of the solution, I'm part of the problem. This is as real as it gets and if you happen to disagree, that is completely fine. We all have our own brains and can form our own ideas and express them freely :] If you do agree feel free to share/spread. It has nothing to do with me-no ulterior motives, rather just a message, a reminder :]
When i mean shallow i mean that its deeper than making a group of people feel better about life...it is life...more than just a mere expression of things that are in life but life itself....not saying that making people feel good is shallow im just saying that there are deeper things...making music that is enlightening to life and the soul is true lyricism ..something that puts you in a deeper frame of mind...btw your rebuttals are really good
Put simply, those who listen to Lupe are people who want to learn/value knowledge; those who don't are ignorant of Lupe's skill/content with sub-standard rap which MTV generally endorses
even though this mixtape came out a while ago, its still lyrically shitting on any song, mixtape, or album out right now. Lupe is one of the coldest whether you like it or not. Listen to him
I honestly think that with all the metaphors and his word play, people actually need a class just to comprehend LUPE, the references he makes and all it just amazes me.... i take my time nd try to understand the message that he is trying to convey... i get so excited, like a puzzle that i just figured out. lol
@TomBom52 hes no wear lyrical MC status , But dont Get Me Wrong Wayne can rap, he IS a rapper he flows, delivers, has punch lines, catchy shit Now A Lyrical Mc. NEVER in a million years!!! but he is a good rapper. Am I a fan, nope I like lyrical rap rather than that but to each is own.
@WhoKilledKenn YESSSS, having VERSES and having LYRICS are two different things...
Wayne got verses (stuff that might sound nice together maybe have a single target audience) but lupe has LYRICS. (a.k.a content and wordplay that has a universal bonding with various audiences...)
As Souls Of Mischief put it: It comes down to ability/technique, creativity/originality, influence over hip hop/rap (This is why Wayne is not consider one of the top 25 best rappers) legacy and the message/point of what they are rapping about. Tell me how wayne applies to any of those. He has no ability he sounds like he's talk-rapping. His style is a directly influence by Jay-V. His influence is about as much as Nelly's. hah Legacy? defer to last answer. and messgae -
well i guess his message is deeper than J-Kwon but really is he a vivid as Mos Def, Tu Pac or Biggie? Hell don't forget Krs One. I mean when you are talking about the best rappers ever can you even entertain the idea of lil wayne? I'll answer that for you...its a no
@WhoKilledKenn don't "struggles in the hood" count as a problem in life? many of Waynes songs are real things that have happened, and he has re-told them in a way that millions upon millions enjoy. if an audience enjoys the lyrics and the audience finds them to be creative and beautiful in a sense and the lyrics do in fact at least relate to real life happenings than is that not lyrical?
@ElectricConnor But Waynes songs are not uplifting or intellectual in any way shape or form...a lyricist will make you think and try to divulge the information that he is trying to express in his lyrics..Wayne has hard punchlines..true but he is not complex or uplifting to mind or body...he exploits cultures with the negative concepts in his songs and produces an overall outlook on that concept..hes dope no lie but i wouldnt put him in the same category as Lu, Nas,AZ,Talib,Mos and some others
@YungBandit im not trying to put him that category, but not a lyricists are "uplifting" ... in the purest definition of the word lyricist wayne fits the mold. eveyone can have there own definition of lyricism and thats fine because thats what they enjoy in lyricism. but if you're going by the book, i count some of his music as lyrical.
@WhoKilledKenn wtf thats bs. real life events with a* problem in life? hood struggles dont count to you? yet you listen to hip hop? wayne does that too he dissed the fuck outta bush when he was in office
@ElectricConnor Tha Carter II is underrated. Wayne's finest work, even beatings out of his good mixtapes. After Tha Carter II, Wayne failed to be lyrical in the least for the most part.
its scary people even say there was a high point for lil waynes lyricism. He was always trash as a real hip hop mc. As a rapper you know like Jay's status selling records getting paid sure he has been real good at that.....
I am sorry but Wayne copies Jay Z and Jay Z copies Biggie. Sure he isn't just talking about the "Rap Trifecta": Illegal Activities, Girls and Jewlery, but to say he is lyrically one of the best just shows your own short-sighted view on the topic. I could go on and define what it means to be one of the best of the lyricist but I'll just defer to the Souls of Mischief for this one - youtube.com/watch?v=1RM6DM9EHTY&feature=related
@Cubs1719 if you think that Wayne copies Jay then i can't even have this conversation with you. id love an example of him copying Jay. Wayne is lyrical, but gets bashed for his topics and quite frankly for being a dumbass. he just isnt lyrical in the way that you or i (for the most part) enjoy. Like Slimkid3 said in your vid, lyricism is defined by your standards. waynes passion, flow and metaphors are undeniably original and creative. like it or not those are parts of the criteria for lyricism.
@ElectricConnor Wayne copies J who copies Biggie who is influenced Krs One. wayne's aesthetic is the same as the one created by Krs One and popularized by Biggie. You can't deny that, look at the way wayne presents himself and his music.
"waynes passion, flow and metaphors are undeniably original and creative." 2pac did this and rakim before him. Wayne is just simply not the first rapper to do what he is doing. Hip Hop is older than 10 years. Ps wayne didn't invent the use of metaphors
Lastly you go ahead and keep quoting Slimkid3 and I am going to go ahead and keep quoting and supporting Souls of Mischief> Who do you think is a better source? Did you even watch the video it pretty much answers all you claims about Wayne being hahaha original and further fleshes out the criteria of being a good lyricist. Which my friends is much different than an MC / Master of Ceremonies.
@Cubs1719 everyone is influenced by someone else. because wayne isnt the first doesnt disqualify him from being lyrical. he has his own flow, rhyme style, etc. never have i said he is one of the best of all time and in no way is that my belief. you're blowing this out of proportion, i'm not here to be professor great debater and you're not all might hip hop jesus.
Also if you really want we can go ahead and go through lyrics and beats in which i can show you directly where he bites rhymes and where he steals beats from. Let the beat build ? produced by the great Kanye west....that was an originally a rapper in college called Nyle made for a school project. These bitters are fucking lame - they are whats wrong with Rap and if you dont get what i am talking about then you obviously weren't aroudn to Hot 97 in 90's. These cats are punks in comparison.
@Cubs1719 wayne is lyrical because he takes his experiences or even fictional situations and tells them in a creative & unique way through lyrics (in select songs). that is lyrical by definition, not the Souls opinion. slim kid tre is a viable source by the way, the pharcyde are widely respected, and were no less succesful than the souls.
@ElectricConnor to define lyrical is by not hardly ever use metaphors and pun and sidd but just powerfull steady rhymen with a deep ass meassge behind and still be able go double or tripple platinum easy like nas
@WhoKilledKenn I can rap you can rap probably too but who is wayne besides screeching saying meaningless verses about hoes and money. its the same shit. he is not evolving at all on his lyrical content. Im tired of metaphors that leads you nowhere. its clear that rappers are used for reversed knowledge they are repetitive like my school book on lies and bullsht.
get off wayne dick hes the worst rapper ever he just says shit that doesnt make sense thats why u hate on lupe because he is million times better than wayne
@WhoKilledKenn thanks for breaking the mixtape down into individual songs and keeping the quality .. absolutely love this mixtape and have loved lupe since hearing the a rhyming ape mixtape! whos coming with me to his show in NYC on april 11th?
The juxtaposition of a woman's body and modern issues within society....Now that's what I consider a true lyricist! Why isn't he getting the recognition he fucking deserves?!!
Overrated? Tupac wa the best because of the fact He Was Real No Lyrics Wise But Because Of What He Was Saying Not How He Put Words Together He Was THe Best Because He Went In The Booth At 9 for Example and Left at 9 The Next Morning And Had 30 songs done thats why he was the best Overrated Fuck No Nobody ever said he was the most lyrical he was more about gettin the message across Please Dnt Ever Disrespect That Man Again
lupe fiasco has more songs in less time, get out this videos url. for real tupac is was and always will be sick, lupe is the best cause he gets it acrossed without putting it plain in front of you but because you have to think and have an education, not just be some hood rat that sells crack. lu brings what the world needs at this point, someone in the rap hip hop game who can use words that dont sound stupid and doesnt swear every 5 seconds.
the illumanatis official name is actually the build a burger society...just sayin...and there is like two people on lupe level idk who better tho...wale only up there cuz he be spittin but he aint been out long enough to fuck wit lupe but ma man blu up dare wit lupe definitley
@worthlessburger7 Chilli is his business partner and friend that has been imprisoned since before people started noticing how sick Lupe is so hes sort of sending him a message that he is red hot now. Hes not saying Smells Like Teen Spirit was done by the peppers .. that was a separate statement and im sure he knows nivana made it .. by the way i still gave you a thumbs up :)
@angelgonz if you listen to his second album he has a song called Free Chilly and also on the So Ghetto song on this mixtape he says "this one's for Chilly Chill" !
@angelgonz lol, he wasnt giving a shoutout to his man Chilly in that verse tho. he said "im red hot chilli, im anthony keidis" he was referring to the lead singer of the red hot chilli peppers. not his man Chilly
@worthlessburger7 Actually i think hes saying "im red hot, CHILLY(free chill;) ) im anthony keidis. this mixtape is proof that lupEND should not be the end :P
@CardiacKatz yea Chilly is his business partner, but anthony keidis is the lead singer of the red hot chilli peppers, and thats what he meant in that verse, it wasnt a reference to his partner Chilly
@worthlessburger7 I think he was just using another rock reference and not referencing it to Anthony keidis who is in the group red hot chilli peppers. he has referenced kurt cobain in one of his other songs so he probably knows what group he belongs to.
Wait so you believe that Lupe Fiasco doesn't know this? Now thats one hell of an assumption. Seems more likely that he took two 90's alt rock referrences and smashed them together. I won't give you a downvote but come on use your common sense a little more next time - he definitely meant to do that.
@Cubs1719 I never said I believed he didnt kno it. I jus thought it was very clever that he used the 2 in a reference. So wether you gave me a downvote or not wouldn't have bothered me
Lupe is one of most intellectual/wise people I know of. His style is creative and truly amazing too. If most people were the same, then they would understand where he was coming from and be enlightened/uplifted as well as entertained when they heard him.
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"poor" as in he doesn't enunciate well, he's fairly monotone, he doesn't mix up the pace at which he delivers the verses, and he really doesn't say anything of any importance. The dude is completely boring. And I'm sure I'll get downvoted again by a bunch of people that don't know anything about rap, but that's alright. Lupe's style is shit.
i'm pretty sure if he were to mix up his pace on this song, his flow would have sounded awful during the transaction. but maybe you can show me some non "poor" rap.
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I'm no kid. I'm 35 so I'm guessing I was listening to rap when you were learning to ride a bike. Tribe Called Quest: GOOD. Tupac: GOOD. This guy is weak. Hell, Young MC was better than this guy.
lol wasnt giving you a lesson. but I mean if you are 35 looking for lessons on the computer maybe somone should straighten out there priorities. have a nice life bud.
I agree. I wouldn't say he's overrated. But I do disagree when people say he's the best. He was great but I cannot say he's the best, there are some emcees out here that had 2pac, but people are afraid to say it, because they don't want no one to look at them funny. Like how you got thumbs down. But I admire you for being you and saying what you felt.
wait how is he weak? Lyrics too deep for you to grasp? Personification, metaphor and allegory too much for you? This is the shit tupac and tribe called quest never gave us.. In fact i think tupac was very inconsistant, in one song he's killin niggas and fucking bitches and another about female impowerment.. My mind needs a little stimulation and lupe does that... Its a shame that you dont like him and that i cant change your opinion..
@wyte1 tupac started rapping about fuckin bitches and then his thoughts and emotions began turnin a different route and started rapping about good stuff like female empowerment and anti-alcohol lifestyles.
@BackoiMedia I love Pac but that is not true. Keep your head up and I get around are three songs away from each other on Strictly for My Niggas. Tupac was ambivalent.
I'm a Radiohead fan, and feel R. fans take the songs way too seriously to not accept this. Rappers feed from all types of inspiration, song-jacking or not.
You have to have a brain to understand what lupe is saying.
damianhenry1992 1 week ago
lupe+those who listen to him= THE FUTURE
ThePropheshunylP 1 month ago
i cant believe my dude rapped off an untouched radiohead track. much props to lupe.
QuiksilveRXx24 2 months ago
I'd say this is probably more than sampling.
hamsterdam92 3 months ago
My head automatically bops to this. And it doesn't stop even if I try to make it.
MissUmiLove 3 months ago
My new nickname is Genghis Khan, but without the "ye"
and his last name's (west) my side......BRAIN OVERLOAD!
smokintheblaze 4 months ago 2
@smokintheblaze explain
jesseclifton 2 weeks ago
@jesseclifton "Genghis Khan, but without the ye" separate the two names, Genghis and Khan, and add ye to the Khan. You'll end up with "Khanye," which sounds the name of the famous rapper, Kanye West.
"But his last name's my side" Lupe is from the West Side area of Chicago. It should be self explanatory from here.
smokintheblaze 2 weeks ago
Screw Wayne, I'm into REAL lyricism, like Jedi Mind Tricks, Wu, Nas, Rakim.......and even Lupe.
PowARABSWAG 6 months ago
WhoKilledKenn is so right!! TRUE
MrOriginalsam 7 months ago
ALL I GOTTA SAY IS HE GOES HARD AS FUCK!!!....FORGET ALL YALL WHO HATE I BET YALL CANT RAP FOR SH*T!!! NUFF SAID
ymcmskinnyjeans 7 months ago
lupe disappointed me with this lasers album
itscheezie15 7 months ago 2
@itscheezie15 wasn't his fault
o0CASHBOY0o 6 months ago
@o0CASHBOY0o i hope its the record company like he said.
itscheezie15 6 months ago
@itscheezie15 it was. But he said the same thing won't happen with F&LII
o0CASHBOY0o 6 months ago
@itscheezie15 you disappoint me with your lack of faith
CardiacKatz 4 months ago 4
The best verse is the second in my opinion, when he spoke of Civil Diobedience written by Henry David Thoreau. I love that essay.
hellakewl99 7 months ago
Lupe Fiasco's rendition of the National Anthem > Christian Aguilera's :D
snapshotcrew 9 months ago
ONE OF LUPE'S VERSES HAS MORE WORDS, MEANING, SYLIBLES AND SWAG THEN ANY WEEZY SONG MADE TO DATE!!
markeyboynum1 9 months ago 2
Ok first off wayne is shit, dont bring up that Carter ll Bullshit he uses ghost writers, dont even try to say he has style, flow and punchlines, O'l Dirty Bastard had style, nate dog had flow, big l had punchlines weezy isnt even close to what they can do. his voice sounds like shit and his metaphors are as deep as a fucking puddle. Lupe is the number one lyricist out there right now and probably one ever, to prove my point listen to failure by lupe and lollipop by wayne.
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mohassin1 9 months ago
I'm red hot chilli, I'm Anthony keidas.
SwitchFlipKid323 10 months ago
where can i buy this mixtape???
educatedamaro 11 months ago
you can download it for free, mixtapes are supposed to be free, not paid for, they charge for albums
sickathanyoav88 10 months ago
I don’t feel I’m best
I just feel I’m better than…
omg... now thats unfair lupe ..a modest beast
i was in a library listening to this and shouted out DAMN...
i love this guy
educatedamaro 11 months ago
lol i stareted saying But before you bust in her face, finish listenin’ to the tape…
Enemy of the State!! really loud in class and everyone thought i was weird except my friends who also listens to lupe
shadecharge7 1 year ago
omg this is the shit!! FNF UP!!
texasboy217 1 year ago
@connor v. bandit Ah finally, an intelligible comment debate
Gumby518 1 year ago
anyone who raps over radiohead deserves props. enough said.
LordDuketheBaron 1 year ago 53
@LordDuketheBaron anyone who raps WELL... and I agree with you
KealanMcSexy 3 months ago
When i mean shallow i mean that its deeper than making a group of people feel better about life...it is life...more than just a mere expression of things that are in life but life itself....not saying that making people feel good is shallow im just saying that there are deeper things...making music that is enlightening to life and the soul is true lyricism ..something that puts you in a deeper frame of mind...btw your rebuttals are really good
YungBandit 1 year ago
To the few idiots who are arguing over whether hes saying im red hot chili(peppers) or im red hot chilly(friend)... its both, double entendre, derrrr
CardiacKatz 1 year ago
3 people r gay
15gjg 1 year ago
I just came
KidA914 1 year ago
omg he lyrically killed this song my man lupe my favorite hip-hop artist
complexbk777 1 year ago
Lupe is so genius that other rappers should feel dumb as fuck listening to him lol!
manny0409 1 year ago
the most fucking amazing lyricist ever the mixtape is proof. XD
lunarlover101 1 year ago
HOW YOU GONNA SCHOOL ME WHEN I GREW UP WITH YOUR TEACHERS!!! Fire
jbone4927 1 year ago
Last verse is mad nice!!!!
chicagoconnoisseur 1 year ago
Big up for a Radiohead beat...
exodus0000000 1 year ago
Radiohead
abhijeet1goyal 1 year ago
"I take it back for you like a Wyld Stallyons or San Dimas"
Leave it to Lupe to make a Bill & Ted reference. Just filthy
martinmor93 1 year ago
No other rapper could do what Lupe did with this beat.
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yelloke2006 1 year ago
the three fags who disliked: Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, Waka Flocka
TheJremy 1 year ago 2
@TheJremy Gucci and his whole clique suck (Waka Flocka, OJ, all them)
but Wayne is good actually
iamtheallstar25 1 year ago
Put simply, those who listen to Lupe are people who want to learn/value knowledge; those who don't are ignorant of Lupe's skill/content with sub-standard rap which MTV generally endorses
DrAlchem01 1 year ago
even though this mixtape came out a while ago, its still lyrically shitting on any song, mixtape, or album out right now. Lupe is one of the coldest whether you like it or not. Listen to him
natedotweb 1 year ago
I honestly think that with all the metaphors and his word play, people actually need a class just to comprehend LUPE, the references he makes and all it just amazes me.... i take my time nd try to understand the message that he is trying to convey... i get so excited, like a puzzle that i just figured out. lol
mingey1989 1 year ago 2
@mingey1989 amen
traytard742 1 year ago
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omniscientescape 1 year ago
im so excited i found this right now i want to listen to all of the tracks at once.
RoyalRamirez 1 year ago
Lupe Fans.....You've been properly prepared throw you hats up in the air!
ace1da 1 year ago
"I blacked out with a black out and I maxed out all the Visas" lmao nice
afrosoda 1 year ago
@TomBom52 hes no wear lyrical MC status , But dont Get Me Wrong Wayne can rap, he IS a rapper he flows, delivers, has punch lines, catchy shit Now A Lyrical Mc. NEVER in a million years!!! but he is a good rapper. Am I a fan, nope I like lyrical rap rather than that but to each is own.
WhoKilledKenn 1 year ago 12
@WhoKilledKenn
very true and very well explained.
bevon17 1 year ago
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ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor I would define Lyrical as...
Something that has a true or Real meaning to life as of now.
im not talking about struggles in the hood or how you came up.
but Very smart wordplay and Combining or Comparing real life events with an Problem in life. Lyrical is From the Soul..
WhoKilledKenn 1 year ago 31
@WhoKilledKenn lyrical to me would be flow, delivery, rhyme scheme, metaphors, punchlines, storytelling, word play etc.
i dont think content has much to do with lyricism.
Big L rapped about many of the same topics and is regarded as one of the best lyricists of all time.
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@WhoKilledKenn YESSSS, having VERSES and having LYRICS are two different things...
Wayne got verses (stuff that might sound nice together maybe have a single target audience) but lupe has LYRICS. (a.k.a content and wordplay that has a universal bonding with various audiences...)
Represent for actual HIP HOP AND RAP!
NERD585 1 year ago
@WhoKilledKenn other wise everything tht wayne isnt
MrJCole35 1 year ago
@WhoKilledKenn your definition is stupid anyone can be lyrical even if they dont rap about "Life" cant beleive dipshits gave u 5 thumbs up for that
Pw1821 1 year ago
@Pw1821
As Souls Of Mischief put it: It comes down to ability/technique, creativity/originality, influence over hip hop/rap (This is why Wayne is not consider one of the top 25 best rappers) legacy and the message/point of what they are rapping about. Tell me how wayne applies to any of those. He has no ability he sounds like he's talk-rapping. His style is a directly influence by Jay-V. His influence is about as much as Nelly's. hah Legacy? defer to last answer. and messgae -
Cubs1719 1 year ago
well i guess his message is deeper than J-Kwon but really is he a vivid as Mos Def, Tu Pac or Biggie? Hell don't forget Krs One. I mean when you are talking about the best rappers ever can you even entertain the idea of lil wayne? I'll answer that for you...its a no
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@WhoKilledKenn don't "struggles in the hood" count as a problem in life? many of Waynes songs are real things that have happened, and he has re-told them in a way that millions upon millions enjoy. if an audience enjoys the lyrics and the audience finds them to be creative and beautiful in a sense and the lyrics do in fact at least relate to real life happenings than is that not lyrical?
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor But Waynes songs are not uplifting or intellectual in any way shape or form...a lyricist will make you think and try to divulge the information that he is trying to express in his lyrics..Wayne has hard punchlines..true but he is not complex or uplifting to mind or body...he exploits cultures with the negative concepts in his songs and produces an overall outlook on that concept..hes dope no lie but i wouldnt put him in the same category as Lu, Nas,AZ,Talib,Mos and some others
YungBandit 1 year ago
@YungBandit im not trying to put him that category, but not a lyricists are "uplifting" ... in the purest definition of the word lyricist wayne fits the mold. eveyone can have there own definition of lyricism and thats fine because thats what they enjoy in lyricism. but if you're going by the book, i count some of his music as lyrical.
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@YungBandit *** not all lyricists are uplifting
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor when i mean uplifting i mean in an enlightened way not something so shallow as making someone or a group of people feel better...
YungBandit 1 year ago
@YungBandit making people feel something is a part of what music as a whole is about though so i dont see how that's shallow.
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@WhoKilledKenn I would define Lyrical as...Eminem
BradyMoss2 11 months ago
@BradyMoss2 lupe fiasco is better than eminem, easily. but there both good in there own way.
jesseclifton 10 months ago
@WhoKilledKenn wtf thats bs. real life events with a* problem in life? hood struggles dont count to you? yet you listen to hip hop? wayne does that too he dissed the fuck outta bush when he was in office
AfroTits 11 months ago
@AfroTits but who didnt diss bush? even his own admin. dissed him bad example...
carterswi 10 months ago in playlist lupe fiasco enemy of state a love story
@ElectricConnor Tha Carter II is underrated. Wayne's finest work, even beatings out of his good mixtapes. After Tha Carter II, Wayne failed to be lyrical in the least for the most part.
ImthaOne100 1 year ago
@ImthaOne100 agree 100%. his flow used to be so clean...
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@ImthaOne100
its scary people even say there was a high point for lil waynes lyricism. He was always trash as a real hip hop mc. As a rapper you know like Jay's status selling records getting paid sure he has been real good at that.....
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor Real talk...but his mixed tapes is dope too tho. He got emcee shit in him....he just wack currently...but Carter2 is crazy sick.
rccola8282 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor
I am sorry but Wayne copies Jay Z and Jay Z copies Biggie. Sure he isn't just talking about the "Rap Trifecta": Illegal Activities, Girls and Jewlery, but to say he is lyrically one of the best just shows your own short-sighted view on the topic. I could go on and define what it means to be one of the best of the lyricist but I'll just defer to the Souls of Mischief for this one - youtube.com/watch?v=1RM6DM9EHTY&feature=related
Watch listen and learn little kid
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@Cubs1719 if you think that Wayne copies Jay then i can't even have this conversation with you. id love an example of him copying Jay. Wayne is lyrical, but gets bashed for his topics and quite frankly for being a dumbass. he just isnt lyrical in the way that you or i (for the most part) enjoy. Like Slimkid3 said in your vid, lyricism is defined by your standards. waynes passion, flow and metaphors are undeniably original and creative. like it or not those are parts of the criteria for lyricism.
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor Wayne copies J who copies Biggie who is influenced Krs One. wayne's aesthetic is the same as the one created by Krs One and popularized by Biggie. You can't deny that, look at the way wayne presents himself and his music.
"waynes passion, flow and metaphors are undeniably original and creative." 2pac did this and rakim before him. Wayne is just simply not the first rapper to do what he is doing. Hip Hop is older than 10 years. Ps wayne didn't invent the use of metaphors
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor
Lastly you go ahead and keep quoting Slimkid3 and I am going to go ahead and keep quoting and supporting Souls of Mischief> Who do you think is a better source? Did you even watch the video it pretty much answers all you claims about Wayne being hahaha original and further fleshes out the criteria of being a good lyricist. Which my friends is much different than an MC / Master of Ceremonies.
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@Cubs1719 everyone is influenced by someone else. because wayne isnt the first doesnt disqualify him from being lyrical. he has his own flow, rhyme style, etc. never have i said he is one of the best of all time and in no way is that my belief. you're blowing this out of proportion, i'm not here to be professor great debater and you're not all might hip hop jesus.
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
Also if you really want we can go ahead and go through lyrics and beats in which i can show you directly where he bites rhymes and where he steals beats from. Let the beat build ? produced by the great Kanye west....that was an originally a rapper in college called Nyle made for a school project. These bitters are fucking lame - they are whats wrong with Rap and if you dont get what i am talking about then you obviously weren't aroudn to Hot 97 in 90's. These cats are punks in comparison.
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@Cubs1719 wayne is lyrical because he takes his experiences or even fictional situations and tells them in a creative & unique way through lyrics (in select songs). that is lyrical by definition, not the Souls opinion. slim kid tre is a viable source by the way, the pharcyde are widely respected, and were no less succesful than the souls.
ElectricConnor 1 year ago
@ElectricConnor to define lyrical is by not hardly ever use metaphors and pun and sidd but just powerfull steady rhymen with a deep ass meassge behind and still be able go double or tripple platinum easy like nas
bigrob569 8 months ago
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ElectricConnor 8 months ago
@ElectricConnor wayne had a ghost writer for that album... so yeaa
dabigo6983 7 months ago
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ElectricConnor 7 months ago
@WhoKilledKenn I can rap you can rap probably too but who is wayne besides screeching saying meaningless verses about hoes and money. its the same shit. he is not evolving at all on his lyrical content. Im tired of metaphors that leads you nowhere. its clear that rappers are used for reversed knowledge they are repetitive like my school book on lies and bullsht.
kirtrevans 1 year ago
@WhoKilledKenn
get off wayne dick hes the worst rapper ever he just says shit that doesnt make sense thats why u hate on lupe because he is million times better than wayne
cptbluntboy 8 months ago
jesus christ
ra611594 1 year ago
"How you gonna school me when I grew up with your teachers?" haha "I don't feel I'm best, I just feel I'm better than" LOVE LUPE
kixroxz 1 year ago 5
@WhoKilledKenn thanks for breaking the mixtape down into individual songs and keeping the quality .. absolutely love this mixtape and have loved lupe since hearing the a rhyming ape mixtape! whos coming with me to his show in NYC on april 11th?
angelgonz 1 year ago
I F*cking ♥ RADIOHEAD!!!
Bapethatboombox 1 year ago 2
The juxtaposition of a woman's body and modern issues within society....Now that's what I consider a true lyricist! Why isn't he getting the recognition he fucking deserves?!!
K1DZ1LLA 1 year ago 4
@K1DZ1LLA Exactly what ive been tryna say all along
jbone4927 1 year ago
"Just walk across my stage, and your life will be completed"
He was using Shakespheres poem I THINK
Redkonvict 1 year ago
Overrated? Tupac wa the best because of the fact He Was Real No Lyrics Wise But Because Of What He Was Saying Not How He Put Words Together He Was THe Best Because He Went In The Booth At 9 for Example and Left at 9 The Next Morning And Had 30 songs done thats why he was the best Overrated Fuck No Nobody ever said he was the most lyrical he was more about gettin the message across Please Dnt Ever Disrespect That Man Again
yungtwone23 1 year ago
lupe fiasco has more songs in less time, get out this videos url. for real tupac is was and always will be sick, lupe is the best cause he gets it acrossed without putting it plain in front of you but because you have to think and have an education, not just be some hood rat that sells crack. lu brings what the world needs at this point, someone in the rap hip hop game who can use words that dont sound stupid and doesnt swear every 5 seconds.
pce
skittles227 1 year ago
@MrJsquared91
cuz da o.g's in da hood r da teachers
blackdove253 2 years ago
No fucking way, he sampled Radiohead. Awesome :D
ChAnYaHmAhCogEcO 2 years ago 6
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"ass is a daughter without a dad"....so true
seattlesfinest891 2 years ago
He digs rapping over Radiohead. This is awesome
FalconSparks 2 years ago
@MrJsquared91 basicly like you can show him anything, because he's already ahead. it goes with the whole "school" metaphor in the 1st part
dman022193 2 years ago 2
ive never really listened to lupe before this. damn ive been missing out.
elscorcho19 2 years ago 6
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@dancer7718 get this song at tubemusicdownload com
ethancoean 2 years ago
the illumanatis official name is actually the build a burger society...just sayin...and there is like two people on lupe level idk who better tho...wale only up there cuz he be spittin but he aint been out long enough to fuck wit lupe but ma man blu up dare wit lupe definitley
ecko72392 2 years ago
This song hard as fuck.
Wanna point out one thing tho.....plez dont thumbs down me, I noticed it:
He says "I'm red hot chilli, im Anthony Keidis, my spirit smells teenage"
Smells like teen spirit is by Nirvana.
Jus had to point that out, no thumbs down ya'll.
This mixtape goes hard as fuck & I dont usually fuck w/ mixtapes
worthlessburger7 2 years ago 29
@worthlessburger7 Chilli is his business partner and friend that has been imprisoned since before people started noticing how sick Lupe is so hes sort of sending him a message that he is red hot now. Hes not saying Smells Like Teen Spirit was done by the peppers .. that was a separate statement and im sure he knows nivana made it .. by the way i still gave you a thumbs up :)
angelgonz 1 year ago
@angelgonz if you listen to his second album he has a song called Free Chilly and also on the So Ghetto song on this mixtape he says "this one's for Chilly Chill" !
angelgonz 1 year ago
@angelgonz I kno bro, I was jus playin. I hope he knos Smells like Teen Spirit was by Nirvana, it was prolly the most popular song in the 90s
worthlessburger7 1 year ago
@angelgonz lol, he wasnt giving a shoutout to his man Chilly in that verse tho. he said "im red hot chilli, im anthony keidis" he was referring to the lead singer of the red hot chilli peppers. not his man Chilly
AugieGK4life 1 year ago
@worthlessburger7 both Anthony Keidis and Kurt were good friends and both bands came out around the same time, that's the connection
jmosizzle69 1 year ago
@worthlessburger7 Y would you think you'd get thumbs downed thats an observation and yea exactly that's why he said my spirit smells teenage
Virus284 1 year ago
@worthlessburger7 Actually i think hes saying "im red hot, CHILLY(free chill;) ) im anthony keidis. this mixtape is proof that lupEND should not be the end :P
CardiacKatz 1 year ago
@CardiacKatz yea Chilly is his business partner, but anthony keidis is the lead singer of the red hot chilli peppers, and thats what he meant in that verse, it wasnt a reference to his partner Chilly
AugieGK4life 1 year ago
@CardiacKatz Yeah i agree.
KevthaRebel 1 year ago
@worthlessburger7 I think he was just using another rock reference and not referencing it to Anthony keidis who is in the group red hot chilli peppers. he has referenced kurt cobain in one of his other songs so he probably knows what group he belongs to.
aybandele 1 year ago
@worthlessburger7
Wait so you believe that Lupe Fiasco doesn't know this? Now thats one hell of an assumption. Seems more likely that he took two 90's alt rock referrences and smashed them together. I won't give you a downvote but come on use your common sense a little more next time - he definitely meant to do that.
Cubs1719 1 year ago
@Cubs1719 I never said I believed he didnt kno it. I jus thought it was very clever that he used the 2 in a reference. So wether you gave me a downvote or not wouldn't have bothered me
worthlessburger7 1 year ago
"How you gonna skol me if I grew up wit ya teachers"
My nigga goes off
worthlessburger7 2 years ago 7
Lupe is one of most intellectual/wise people I know of. His style is creative and truly amazing too. If most people were the same, then they would understand where he was coming from and be enlightened/uplifted as well as entertained when they heard him.
krsJosiah 2 years ago 25
LUPE'S SICK, BOTTOM LINE!!!!
DGod169 2 years ago 6
lupe my shit
Los222 2 years ago
Lol Lupe is a beast, I loved that last verse 2:38
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getdota654 2 years ago
I want the instrumental.
palito2k9 2 years ago
It's just Radiohead's The National Anthem off of Kid A.
redhaski 2 years ago
Just great!
xbacon24 2 years ago
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this is pretty poor.
goodreverend 2 years ago
Hahaha
Define "poor"
Redkonvict 2 years ago
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"poor" as in he doesn't enunciate well, he's fairly monotone, he doesn't mix up the pace at which he delivers the verses, and he really doesn't say anything of any importance. The dude is completely boring. And I'm sure I'll get downvoted again by a bunch of people that don't know anything about rap, but that's alright. Lupe's style is shit.
goodreverend 2 years ago
@goodreverend Please understand this is a mixtape and if you were listen to Food & Liquor and The Cool you would think twice of what you think
There is no storyline or nesscary meaning in this mixtape besides of him just wanting to do music
Redkonvict 2 years ago 4
you must be deaf, how can you say he is off pace? if this isn't good rap, then please educate me...
BigWillyTilly 2 years ago
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and you must be illiterate, because I never said he was off pace. I said he doesn't mix up the pace.
goodreverend 2 years ago
ok English teacher......
i'm pretty sure if he were to mix up his pace on this song, his flow would have sounded awful during the transaction. but maybe you can show me some non "poor" rap.
BigWillyTilly 2 years ago 3
lol..
dumb nigga..
u obviously dont know rap..
and u obviously havent listened to one of his CD's. listen to The Cool or Food & Liquor then you'll understand..
kids these days.. always need to be educated..
FRR333SSSSHHHH 2 years ago 6
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I'm no kid. I'm 35 so I'm guessing I was listening to rap when you were learning to ride a bike. Tribe Called Quest: GOOD. Tupac: GOOD. This guy is weak. Hell, Young MC was better than this guy.
goodreverend 2 years ago
no no no.. ur a kidd..
especially if u say lupe fiasco aint good..
sry bro. truth hurts.
FRR333SSSSHHHH 2 years ago 5
you a fuckin trip, the shit lupe spits no one else can come up wit it
BabyJake100 2 years ago 6
@goodreverend
now your being ignorant
Time4TheDeed 2 years ago
It's "you're", not "your". I'll take my lessons on what's ignorant from someone else, thanks.
goodreverend 2 years ago
@goodreverend
lol wasnt giving you a lesson. but I mean if you are 35 looking for lessons on the computer maybe somone should straighten out there priorities. have a nice life bud.
Time4TheDeed 2 years ago
Tupac's probably one of the most overrated rappers of all time.
b2lo22o22 2 years ago
@b2lo22o22 wow dude your really dumb
187skill 1 year ago
I agree. I wouldn't say he's overrated. But I do disagree when people say he's the best. He was great but I cannot say he's the best, there are some emcees out here that had 2pac, but people are afraid to say it, because they don't want no one to look at them funny. Like how you got thumbs down. But I admire you for being you and saying what you felt.
GlobalEnigma64 1 year ago
wait how is he weak? Lyrics too deep for you to grasp? Personification, metaphor and allegory too much for you? This is the shit tupac and tribe called quest never gave us.. In fact i think tupac was very inconsistant, in one song he's killin niggas and fucking bitches and another about female impowerment.. My mind needs a little stimulation and lupe does that... Its a shame that you dont like him and that i cant change your opinion..
wyte1 2 years ago 22
@wyte1 I agree i like,2 pac, but for that reason i never could put him on the same level as a NAs
eggles15 2 years ago
@wyte1 tupac started rapping about fuckin bitches and then his thoughts and emotions began turnin a different route and started rapping about good stuff like female empowerment and anti-alcohol lifestyles.
BackoiMedia 1 year ago
@BackoiMedia I love Pac but that is not true. Keep your head up and I get around are three songs away from each other on Strictly for My Niggas. Tupac was ambivalent.
candiddidnac 1 year ago
listen to The Coll by him & tell me his shit is weak
worthlessburger7 2 years ago
if its his style, how can it be shit? its only shit when its compared to something. what would be some"one"s style you wouldnt consider to be bad
if you dont like it, ok. its that simple,
all the rest is fairly base.
why does rap have to be so defined?
PcfllIntent 2 years ago
I'm a Radiohead fan, and feel R. fans take the songs way too seriously to not accept this. Rappers feed from all types of inspiration, song-jacking or not.
noizyme 2 years ago
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this is not that good. quite monotone
KenAllday 2 years ago
what the hell, hes rapping not singing ha ha.
xredmannequinx 2 years ago
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lupe's got flow and style.....
however, he just ruined an awesome radiohead song.
insidious66 2 years ago
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that was quite monotonous.
rasheemo1 2 years ago
Who's better than this guy?!
1oilchange 2 years ago
NOBODY! HE IS THE TRUTH!
MotorMouF1988 2 years ago 2
yeah man lupe is really snapping on the industry and america.....I hope the illuminati dont try and take him out........
CharlieT305 2 years ago
me too
virgo825 2 years ago
what beat does this beat comes from
poetmm 2 years ago
the national anthem by radiohead
MiniDJBeirne 2 years ago
thx
poetmm 2 years ago
Anytime.
WhoKilledKenn 2 years ago
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so far from wat i heard dis mixtape is very (depressed) rock sounding. bt still gud lyrically
francis2ndhalf 2 years ago
Not at all, its really just this song and Say Something.
wwesuperstar1234 2 years ago
no its not
rodney89chi11 2 years ago