Hey, ogiatnas! Im an avid fan of Bo Sanchez, & Im really shocked about your comments that Bo ''still practice necromancy''.., you sure about this? Man, this is a serious..., very serious issue considering Bo's a great preacher.
@Rommell08 In his kerygma reflection of 27 july 2010, he wrote " sts Natalie and Aurelius, pray for us" if asking prayer from the dead is not necromancy then what is it?"( Deut 18: 11). It is very clear in 1 Tim 2:5 that the only intercessor between God and man is Jesus...Jesus is alive, while Natalie and Aurelius are still dead.
@ogiatnas When the Bible mentions necromancy, it condemns the practice of conjuring up the dead, as Saul did through the witch of Endor in 1 Samuel 28. When Jesus spoke with Moses and Elijah during the Transfiguration, this was not necromancy. When David asked the angels of heaven to bless the Lord, this also was not offensive to God (Ps.103:20–21). This is not necromancy either.
@ogiatnas Likewise, when a Catholic asks St. Peter to pray for him, he is not conjuring up a spirit from Hades in order to acquire secret knowledge. After all, those in heaven are "like the angels," and are more alive than we are, since the Lord is "not God of the dead, but of the living" (Luke 20:36–38).
@princephil1 Saints are not yet in heaven ( John 3:13). they are still in the pleasant and higher part of Hades( Abraham's bosom or paradise) Luke 16: 23 or Luke 23:43 and they are all waiting to be resurrected for the 2nd coming of Christ ( 1 Thess 15-18) and be brought up to heaven......Rev 5:8 is still future event. These saints are still dead unlike our Lord who is alive. Please peruse your theology on the context of the Word of God. Religion does not save, only Jesus saves.
@ogiatnas Part 1: Saints are not yet in heaven??? Are you sure about that, my friend?? Where have you taken that concept? Your own interpretation of “Rev 5:8 is still in future event” is absolutely wrong. Please be reminded that not all in revelations has to happen in the future. Rev 5:8 is definitely talking about a present and a vision of future event that already happened. Why? Mat 25:31-44 explained that in the Final judgment the Holy ones and all the Saints will go with Jesus and worship
@ogiatnas Part 2 ... Him in eternity. Therefore after the judgment, there’s no need of “elders” (Saints) to bring the prayers of the holy ones (Saints on earth) to our Lord Jesus because they can personally worship Him there (Rev 5:8). Note also that Rev 6:9-10 talks about the saints asking God for avenging their deaths. This is in heaven before the final judgment, my friend. Additionally, Jesus will come back together with his Saints (1Thes 3:13)
@ogiatnas learn the history of Christianity and the bible, my firend without bias... Not just your own denomination's doctrine but include the orthodox and other Christian doctrines in Jerusalem and sorrounding areas up to the present time. Learn what happen after the death of all the apostles, what happen to their disciples, Mark, Luke Timothy etc.. what about the 70 disciples? do they get disciples too? You and I will have to review our scholarship :-).
@ogiatnas Part 3 My friend, when we die the dead body itself will know nothing and will return to dust but the SPIRIT can and is able to communicate (prayer), e.g. the case of Abraham, Lazarus and the rich man (Lk 16:23-30) and the spirits of the slain preachers of the word as seen by John under the altar who prayed to God on avenging their deaths (Rev 6:9-10). By the way my friend, you sound like catholic by believing another place besides Heaven and Hell.
@ogiatnas So, if it does not offend God when a Catholic says "St. Peter, pray for me," we should all rejoice that God has given us the gift of Peter’s prayers (or to other saints prayers as well). After all We are sure that the saints will bring our prayers to Jesus (Rev 5:8)
haha kulet nung lola
abnormalkano 1 year ago
Hey, ogiatnas! Im an avid fan of Bo Sanchez, & Im really shocked about your comments that Bo ''still practice necromancy''.., you sure about this? Man, this is a serious..., very serious issue considering Bo's a great preacher.
Rommell08 1 year ago
@Rommell08 In his kerygma reflection of 27 july 2010, he wrote " sts Natalie and Aurelius, pray for us" if asking prayer from the dead is not necromancy then what is it?"( Deut 18: 11). It is very clear in 1 Tim 2:5 that the only intercessor between God and man is Jesus...Jesus is alive, while Natalie and Aurelius are still dead.
ogiatnas 1 year ago
@ogiatnas When the Bible mentions necromancy, it condemns the practice of conjuring up the dead, as Saul did through the witch of Endor in 1 Samuel 28. When Jesus spoke with Moses and Elijah during the Transfiguration, this was not necromancy. When David asked the angels of heaven to bless the Lord, this also was not offensive to God (Ps.103:20–21). This is not necromancy either.
princephil1 1 year ago
@ogiatnas Likewise, when a Catholic asks St. Peter to pray for him, he is not conjuring up a spirit from Hades in order to acquire secret knowledge. After all, those in heaven are "like the angels," and are more alive than we are, since the Lord is "not God of the dead, but of the living" (Luke 20:36–38).
princephil1 1 year ago
@princephil1 Saints are not yet in heaven ( John 3:13). they are still in the pleasant and higher part of Hades( Abraham's bosom or paradise) Luke 16: 23 or Luke 23:43 and they are all waiting to be resurrected for the 2nd coming of Christ ( 1 Thess 15-18) and be brought up to heaven......Rev 5:8 is still future event. These saints are still dead unlike our Lord who is alive. Please peruse your theology on the context of the Word of God. Religion does not save, only Jesus saves.
ogiatnas 1 year ago
@ogiatnas Part 1: Saints are not yet in heaven??? Are you sure about that, my friend?? Where have you taken that concept? Your own interpretation of “Rev 5:8 is still in future event” is absolutely wrong. Please be reminded that not all in revelations has to happen in the future. Rev 5:8 is definitely talking about a present and a vision of future event that already happened. Why? Mat 25:31-44 explained that in the Final judgment the Holy ones and all the Saints will go with Jesus and worship
princephil1 1 year ago
@ogiatnas Part 2 ... Him in eternity. Therefore after the judgment, there’s no need of “elders” (Saints) to bring the prayers of the holy ones (Saints on earth) to our Lord Jesus because they can personally worship Him there (Rev 5:8). Note also that Rev 6:9-10 talks about the saints asking God for avenging their deaths. This is in heaven before the final judgment, my friend. Additionally, Jesus will come back together with his Saints (1Thes 3:13)
princephil1 1 year ago
@princephil1 Please review your scholarship....
ogiatnas 1 year ago
@ogiatnas learn the history of Christianity and the bible, my firend without bias... Not just your own denomination's doctrine but include the orthodox and other Christian doctrines in Jerusalem and sorrounding areas up to the present time. Learn what happen after the death of all the apostles, what happen to their disciples, Mark, Luke Timothy etc.. what about the 70 disciples? do they get disciples too? You and I will have to review our scholarship :-).
princephil1 1 year ago
@ogiatnas ...by the way, my friend, My teacher is just a carpenter. One of my other teachers is a fisherman.
princephil1 1 year ago
@ogiatnas Part 3 My friend, when we die the dead body itself will know nothing and will return to dust but the SPIRIT can and is able to communicate (prayer), e.g. the case of Abraham, Lazarus and the rich man (Lk 16:23-30) and the spirits of the slain preachers of the word as seen by John under the altar who prayed to God on avenging their deaths (Rev 6:9-10). By the way my friend, you sound like catholic by believing another place besides Heaven and Hell.
princephil1 1 year ago
@ogiatnas So, if it does not offend God when a Catholic says "St. Peter, pray for me," we should all rejoice that God has given us the gift of Peter’s prayers (or to other saints prayers as well). After all We are sure that the saints will bring our prayers to Jesus (Rev 5:8)
princephil1 1 year ago
He is a good speaker but sad to say he still practices necromancy which God forbids
ogiatnas 2 years ago
@ogiatnas Oh he is an idol worshipper? bad thing he charge too much using the Word of God. Even the devil is glib tongued.
zedrev01 1 year ago
bo sanchez, thank you that in works and in writings i rediscover my catholic faith. thank you also to the one who posted this.
ronnelthe4th 2 years ago
great bo!! Godbless
jakeastig31 2 years ago
hehehehe!!!until now amazed pa rin ako the way he preach...sana i have that skill too...ang galing eh!!!
ExPeDiTeKUNO 3 years ago