Remember: Judge not that ye may not be judged!!! It is a shame that you claim to be more righteous because of the knowledge you are not applying. And I wonder, do you understand English? The bible does say In the beginning God created... This does not in any way imply that the FIRST thing God created was the heavens and the earth! And try not to interprete out of context.
I'd appreciate it if you would know what you're talking about before you go and run your mouth about someone you know NOTHING about. You don't like him or what he preaches? Simple as not listening to him.
He speaks from the heart with his own opinions. Judging for what a man says out of his heart isn't for anyone to do but GOD. If u are a true Christian than you should be understanding about a man who made a mistake. A man. A less than perfect individual who deserves respect for teaching people in a different way than you. Its not false, just different.
Only God can judge. If Apostle Ron is wrong then he will be Judged by God Himself. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to try to belittle him like this. And for THAT you will be accounted. What good have you done by putting this on youtube? What example have you shown the world on how to treat others? Look at YOURSELF before you throw the first stone.
@spreadingtruegospel................i'm not sure you are even Christian or Jew because of the language that you use. God encourages us through his word in both old and new testiment... Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. And in the new testament it continues to say ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.” Do you even love yourself?
You know, here's this guy that hides himself so that others can"t see who he is, just so he can try to put Apostles Ron down. Then he has the balls to name himself as " Spreading true gospel " but in truth, all he is, is an uneducated fool. But I don't need to tell all these readers that. Just read his replies and you will see for your self. Any man that has to say Quote, "U ignorant Motherfu!!er!" sure isn't any man of God. But neither is an Anti christian. we will pray for you, u need it bad.
I love how people sit and trash those who bring Gods word. It just shows how much more the preacher is doing what God has called him to do. The more we get attacked by speaking His word, the more ammo we get to keep going. Pastor Ron is a great man of God and those that sit judging him or others are not better. Watch what u say because on judgement day U will be questioned.
He has no right to call himself Apostle . I have been to that church as well for a visit.The only apostles are appointed by Jesus and his authority . (see the gospel of Jesus Christ)I suppose GOd was cleared him to pay for plastic surgery for his wife? Of course not , that was him living according to the flesh .
Would our lord and savior Jesus Christ approve of the way your coming at people and the language your using? Proverbs 15:1 A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. Check yourself first!
you clearly need a revelation from God's holy spirit instead of causing confusion and chaos. Be careful who you try to tear down, especially a man of God
PrincessRedeemed7 = TRUTH IS GOING FORWARD ON THIS VIDEO! .....that you got conned into giving this false teacher your wages? Is a sad day for the fooled followers of mr. ron. I see you did not ask any "questions" to get some clarity on why he falls into the false teacher money/message pit? That would be the first thing to do here. Ask WHY the video poster felt the need to post this? And then READ & COMPARE HOLY SCRIPTURE AGAINST RON'$ TEACHING$
Sound is the first thing that God created because befor you get anyting done you have to speak it which will make sound..... the power of life and death is in the tounges. .and we have to remeber that the scripture was written by man not God. They only wrote what God allowed them to write because there is a whole lot of stuff tht happend in the biblical days that is not recorded in the bible. so we all need to stop trying to find falts in everyone else and look at us.... for a change.
Ive known this man and his father all my life and I know that they are the real thing. I feel very sorry for the person making these accusations. You better not touch God' annointed ones. Ive seen more than one person make this mistake and brother it is a big big mistake. I know that Ron, Jr is from GOD and he is doing all he can do to preach the word. How on earth could he have done what he has done without the yoke destoying burden removing annointing of GOD. Bless you RON.
i agree with ablondycupcake i am a member of his church and he is not a false teacher...and his name is not YaHuwah...its Yahweh now you get it together...
@pearleemusik you're right about one thing...his name isn't YAHUWAH, it's Y-A-H-A-W-A-H!!!!
You stupid woman, you have no idea where the name "Yahweh" came from or what it means. Even a strong's concordance proves that "Yahweh" is not his name
@ffemt239 actually yes. Read Genesis chapter 2 there are numerous things God created with out words. But just because I'm pointing this out to you does not mean that I agree with the poster of the video. This man uses curse words to try and make a point but ends up showing himself to be a fool.
God had to it speak first, to cause things to exsit. Therefore Out of the sound of His voice He made made every thing. Stop taking things out of contex and please, please, lets use our common sence, and stop being falt finders.
@lenalathum thank you for the truth. he did take it out of context. He didnt play the rest of the video and after confronted with the truth he diverted an answer like the woman at the well and then asked you an irrelevant question and assumed (quite arrogantly) that you do were #1 sitting at your PC with nothing better to do and #2 you didnt know the answer and #3 you need to google it....wow they give a youtube account to anyBODY!
@SpreadingTrueGospel Wow, that's bitingly funny... but I am not sure that God or Jesus would use that mean spirited technique to build a bridge between themselves and others who opposed themselves... but that is assuming your goal is to build bridges and to win or convinced others with the gospel... which probably isn't your goal judging by the first few post in this discourse.
I was at the Hyatt this year while the marriage conference was going on. I was shocked, after the banquet, when it was time for the dance, how many skanky-looking women I saw. I was also shocked at the songs that were being played -- hip-hop songs of today that included lyrics about "sexing" women, oral sex, strippers, etc.
That was a marriage conference put on by a church? Really?!
Listen to what he said and why..... When God created the heavens and the earth he spoke them into existence. What came first, Heaven & earth, or the sound of his voice calling them to exist? Try hearing what he's saying rather than looking a reason to disagree. The message is true and sound.
Wow all this energy and bantering over Apostle Ron and the Word of God,
I wonder how many souls just got saved... We have to remember when we get in public domains we are being watched by the lost and this kind of stuff does not encourage people to come to Jesus. I cant cite this where the scripture is about when the disciples were with Jesus and some other people were casting out demons and Jesus relpy was if they arent against us they are for us.. thank you google Mark 9:40
@SpreadingTrueGospel Out of context. Mark 13:4 puts verse 13 in perspective. Careful not to misquote the Bible to serve your own means. ALL things must be taken in context and to say that people are not already saved is ludicrous. Galations 2:16
@SpreadingTrueGospel ALSO check out James 2:18 it puts the whole salvation through works argument to sleep. You may think that this verse actually upholds your beliefs however James was saying that our faith is shown through our works. Not that our faith is made perfect through works.
@SpreadingTrueGospel When one curses and makes angry emotional slurs or insults they lose the argument and come across as a raging lunatic! It is very immature way to get one's point across.
The comment was for the person using the F word and calling a person stupid Lennoxane?Intelligent people make their points in a calm, respectful manner, without cursing and insults, don't you think?
I mean not to the author of this blog but anyone who can't calmly state their comment without cursing and hateful speech! This is not the forum to be a shock jock! It is a site for seekers and Christian issues? Am I correct.
@SpreadingTrueGospel Just because you can quote the scriptures, doesn't mean you know anything. The hate you use is not anything God associated. Mark 13:13 is referring to the Jews @the Tribulation. If they hold fast then they will be saved. It is the Jews who Jesus came to save, but they refused Him, so then through Paul Jesus Christ gave the New Covenant and Romans 10:9 confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
To spreading the truth: I have a concern when people display a half message without the entire sermon to go by. Ever single word in the bible is there for a reason esp. if it repeated, do you agree? Count the number of passage" GOD SAID" in the first chapter of Genesis. One could conclude that God verbally spoke the word out loud, otherwise the text could have been written as "AND GOD THOUGHT, LET THERE BE". Isn't saying a verbal action? Just saying, this could be something to digest.
@nolywhi - It's bad exegesis to impose upon scripture, that which it does not clearly communicate. "God said" is what the bible reflects, but who here knows if He said it audibly? Surely not I, and I think its safe to say Ron wasn't there either. If He did say it audibly,who was there to confirm it? Is it written in such a fashion as to say that? NO, it is not. We as finite beings speak in our minds, and yet it is not audible to others. How much moreso with God. Think about it...
What was missed in your translations of this is that everthing created was created by God in the form of him speaking it into existance the fact that it does say that he spoke everything into existance leads you to account for sound sound had to be there for this to happen.
I appreciate your guard. I really do. I read the scriptures and glean with a fine toothed comb and analytically process what I'm reading. So I subject to you what I see.
and God "SAID" "said" is not complete without perception. There must be some form of "hearing" for "said" to have a purpose.
@HeavenlyInspired you are both taking mark 13:13 out of context. read the entire chapter before just quoting verses. It makes you realize the context of this passage. You would do well to read GALATIANS 2:16 as well.
@mindsetmovies I love how you say read the entire chapter before just quoting verses! That's something I tell people a lot. You can't look at one part and over the others. God is a God of order and a God of completion. Thanks for that comment
Right study... But when God speaks he speaks.. But the sound is correct the Bible says there came a mighty sound from heaven like a might rushing wind. He had to hear the sound in order to create the universe because he imagined all this before he even decided to create us. and with imagination comse sound.. Becuse when you dream or vision something you dont just do it quitely you picture it with Sound.
first of all u must be very dum cause u think just a little bit and u pause it why not here it like it is maybe ur just to dum to understand what he is saying or to dum to keep listening to get the point
Wrong you are bro, sound had to transmitt the words being spokin by God.Just because its not written in the logos didn't stop it from being. How did all the angels worship god before the word was written? As chief light bearer how did lucifer then lead the worship? -SOUND of course.Cearly the word doesn't give us every detail that ever happend from eternity to now, Just enough to teach us what we need to know.
the big problem with some of us is that we tend to only pull certain words out of the bible and say thats what that means. you have to read and understand the whole chapter to understand those words or you'll get very confused. God is great and that church is full of God's presence on sunday morning and wednsday night.
Ron Carpenter Jr., teaches that God has brought humans out of himself, that humans pre-existed as God's potential, God "reproduces" himself resulting in humans, that Adam under went an essential change after the potential of Eve was removed from him in the form of a rib. Ron is in error.
Before God created anything he said let there be light, and when he said let there be light that was a sound. If sound wasnt the first thing created how could he say let there be light. and the bible says dont judge for if you do you shall be judged on judgment day, so if your a man of God why are you judging??
Psalm 105:14 "Do not touch my anointed ones, do my prophets no harm." You better make sure you know what you are talking about because if he is God's anointed you are bringing judgement on yourself. And you might want to take your own advice and read for yourself. GOD BLESS.
How can you with one mouth criticize and cast stones and then turn around and say shaloam? Theres no preacher perfect. Why dont you find something productive to do for God, instead of trying to bring reproach on Gods people.
@hydracostudio what are you talking about? Read what I wrote one more time. I never criticized him. I simply defended that fact that I was called a B****. Please take one more time to read the entire thing. I gave one scripture and then was called a b****. That was my only complaint. I never called him anything horrible or said anything bad, so to say to him have a blessed evening wasn't out of character for what I said. It would however be out of character for him to have said that.
@jtho7518 HE'S NOT A SERVANT OF THE LORD!!! HE STILL REFERS TO THE MESSIAH AS JESUS YOU DUMB BITCH!!!!
John 7:24 "judge with righteous judgment"....duhhh!!!! Titus 1:13 'REBUKE THEM SHARPLY"
The most HIGH is destroying this Earth you dumb fucking bitch--and the truth is coming to light about ALL of these wicked churches! We are close to the end, and yo ass don't understand that GOD AINT AT CHURCH? ACT 7:48, ACTS 17:24, HEBREWS 9:24
@SpreadingTrueGospel How can you quote scripture and curse at me at the same time. I didn't curse or attack you with anger, I simply gave you a scripture you should think about and clearly by what you called me, maybe it is something you should meditate on. Maybe instead of reading the verse you should read the whole chapter. You tried to correct me but instead you just proved my point. Have a blessed evening.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
2 minutes ago @tlowensjr; That is so true,,, WORD is sound... Before God could speak light be or let there be firmament and so forth, he had to have the sound of THE WORD to speak it! Makes perfect sense to me... :s
mega church leaders will increasingly be challenged. rightly so. they live a life outside of what they preach. carpenter is no diff. people see the hypocrisy from most lavisg living preachers. its about time
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
@tlowensjr; That is so true,,, WORD is sound... Before God could speak light be or let there be firmament and so forth, he had to have the sound of THE WORD to speak it! Makes perfect sense to me... :s
@th3w4tchm3n What do you mean "repeat the same generic things"?
I grew up going to church and never heard some of the things that Apostle Ron preaches. He seems to me to have plenty of material, but I have actually been listening to him for a while. If you are gleaning bits of info from internet or tv I can understand why you think what you do.
@baronshober Almost everyone in that area has been to that mega-church at least once. Anyone that has gone there long enough knows the comments I made below are true. If even longer then they saw it change over time like everything else to all about RON...
@th3w4tchm3n I am in "that area," you are not. I have "gone there long enough," you have not. The comments you made are grossly inaccurate but keeping with misinformation in circulation. Forgive me if I put no stock in your second- or third-hand information over my extensive first-hand information.
@th3w4tchm3n He has preached about Hell, he has preached that we are in the endtimes, our gifts may bring us increase but they are for the benefit of others not us, ushers protect him for the threats and attempts on his life, he is only one man in a church of 14,000 and there are many leaders in there to open my heart to.
@th3w4tchm3n Your first and second points are wrong. He has preached both points. He preaches that God will give us the increase we need to fulfill His purpose for our lives. The ushers because of past assault attempts. He has enough faith to preach even with death threats. He is one man in a church of thousands; I don't mind connecting with another leader in the church.
@th3w4tchm3n I go to his church and it is clear that you don't really know what you are talking about. No offense meant. It is just that your questions denote a basic ignorance of him and the ministry he heads.
God created everything by speaking it. "God said..." "God said..." etc. Yes, the first thing was the heavens and the earth, but God used sound (His Word, which is Jesus by the way) to create with. You have not "exposed" Apos. Carpenter with this weak argument, you have exposed your own misinterpretation of what he was preaching. That's why you could only use ~5 sec. of the sermon.
Sadly today the church has become lot of sheeple willing to placate the evil infiltrators. And allow nothing but permissive agreeing with the liars = "conversations" inside of their doors. And ignore that Christ was also about CONDEMNATION! For those who do evil ; or teach falsely! He calls them "from their father the devil" ~
Genesis is the first book in the bible but by chronology its not...its Job! God's power that he shared with man was the ability to create with the words we speak. I'm not here to be negative...but if he is false, have you prayed for him that he might find truth and repent! If not my friend, then you are acting out satan's character. For our bible tells us that he is the accuser of the brotheren.
mysterical= we do NOT "puppet" Holy Unique Creator Triune GOD with our "words"! ....that is a teaching from satanic underlings and Oprahs godless gurus! ...if WE? create with "the words we speak"??? Then why does anyone ever die? Even the people Jesus Christ Himself healed! Died! Sadly YOU="mysterical" think that False Prophets can be allowed to ravage The Body of Christ WITH NO DISAGREEMENTS? The Bible tells us to discern and ACCUSE people of many things! False prophets being one of them
@SpreadingTrueGospel You're right. I would not want you praying for me either. You need to pray for yourself first. Also you REALLY REALLY show your works that you quoted Mark 13:13. Do you think the Lord wants you name calling his other children? Or using profanity with them? Come on man you know better. I don't know Ron BUT it seems to me that you are taking him out of context just as you are taking the Bible out of context. I think you've forgotten your first love. seems he hit a nerve.
Am sure god is pleased with you at least you are trying if not for nothing ,some people are still totally in the dark.thanks am following you and you are choosen and bless so says god.....to me.
It is sad this BROTHER has to use a satanic device of manipulation to call a man of GOD a false Apostle. YOU need to post the whole sermon and don't put false statements out about someone you truly don't know. TRUST ME I have met & served the CARPENTERS and know what real people of GOD they are. RON & HOPE aren't twisting the word he is trying to bring FREEDOM and DELIVERANCE to a people who are done with sin and are committed to JESUS! RUN TELL THAT ! GREENVILLE SC 29607
The Bible was not intended to be used as a science book. I also grew up in RWOC. I disagree with his theology but that church is getting kids off the streets. I think God knows Carpenter's intentions He's a good man but that church wasn't for me. I've found Christ's true Church, The Orthodox Church. Peace be to all!
wheres the rest of the clip you showed your part but didnt let him finish many people feel weird and i thought talking in tounges was weird to till i got overwhelmed and did it why point finger and have three pointed back at you if Jehovah is your God then give him praise shut up with petty nonsense you sound like a goofball looser that lives with his mother but wait that be judgeing and pointing but hey God is good and i can account for apostle ron hes a man of God and watch the whole sermon
seriously though, creating hatred for someone is dark in itself. Pastor Ron is a very well developed minister who is human and free to make mistakes although this what you point out is merely garbage and you should be trying to correct your envy and your malice because both are deadly sins. If you think he is wrong pray for him instead of stone him for we are in the covenant of Jesus Christ and he taught ultimate forgiveness!
ablondycupcake = the false teachers and Scripture twisters have free reign to fleece the flocks wallets and minds and lie lie lie like the devil. You? Agree to ignore the obvious error after error.
i UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MADE THIS CLAIM. NOT THE FACT TO EXPOSE RON FOR HE HAS DONE NOUTHING WRONG. FOR WHAT DO YOU GAIN OUT OF THIS IS TO SAY THAT YOUR VIDEO RECIVED MANY HITS BECAUSE YOU ARE ATTACKING A PASTOR WITH LOTS OF FOLLOWERS. THE MORE THE WORD GETS OUT BOUT THIS CLIP THE MORE PEOPLE WILL VIEW WEATHER THEY ARE FROM R.W.O.C. OR SOME OTHER. I FEEL LIKE YOU CANNOT REACH THE SPIRITUAL LEVEL RON IS AT. SO THEREFORE YOU ARE TEARING HIM DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL. SHAME ON YOU
shame on YOU for following a liar. Salvation is of the Jews, the covenant was intended for Israel. You're lost, you think GOD loves everyone-- you faggot. Read Proverbs 16:4
Fuck how many views it gets, those who love the truth will contend with those who break the law
@2HELLwitESAUnD2third God so loved THE WORLD that he gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 I thought everyone knew that scripture!
In Matthew 9 the Bible says, 29 Then He touched their eyes, saying, According to your faith let it be to you. 30 And their eyes were opened.
Key words there, "according to your faith". It's not dependent upon my belief in your healing, but the belief and faith you have in God inspite of how your situation may currently appear.
Jesus himself said there will be people that get the Kingdom and others that will not, don't look down on a man who God has given great discernment and annointed like he has Apostle Ron.
Apostle Rons teachings may be out of the box and certainly not traditional, but God isn't a "traditional" God that many confine to their own box. Apostle Rons messages challenge people and many do not like that. When it demands change on someone life that hates change or is comfortable in their current stagnant state with God, of course they will say his teachings are absurd.
It's impossible and pointless to argue with ignorant people. SpreadingTrueGospel, is doing nothing but spreading rumors, blasphemy, envy, and jealousy towards a fellow brother of the Kingdom. It's sad that this is what our "Christian" faith has come to. Instead of uplifting and encouraging one another, we are tearing each other down while the world around us goes to hell.
your right people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. you are one that lacks. the bibnle starts out in the beginning stating that God is the alpha God speaks thing into existence this preacher is a great man from God no reason to be a hater at him
@srp2009able you type with an error on the most important word "Bible"...everything happens for a reason....to show everyone who's the real fool. You're simple
"How long will ye simple ones love simplicity?"
He might be a man of God, but he's not a man of Yahawah (which is "god's real name)
You are defending the wicked which is an abomination.
Someone who's seeking the truth, and have had their eyes open, find ERRORS all through-out his teachings
Genesis 1:1 and 3: 1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 3 And God SAID, "Let there be light," and there was light. Let me repeat...AND GOD SAID! God used SOUND to SPEAK creation into exsistence. Ps 105:15 says "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm." I would recommend that you stop trying to tear down other ministries and focus on your own. We are all called to the same purpose...to preach the good news of the gospel.
To Tell The Children Of Israel 12 tribes To Wake Up and To Obey his Commandments.. Sorry But God dont love everyone and everyone want be saved just because you repeat a prayer
If you love me you will keep my commandments ..Many will say Lord I have casted out demons in your name..Workers of Iniquity I Never Knew You
Many will be surprised on that day b/c of false doctrine taught by man
... Haha, brother, you're tripping hard. Doesn't the WORD of God bring things into existance?... lol. Chill bro. Understand the workings of God. I guess if you spent more time researching how God creates and less time trying to find folly in God's annointed, you'd know better. I pray for your soul bruh. When you go against God's chosen, that's like going against God Himself.
@SpreadingTrueGospel Wow. Ok, bro. Whatever helps you sleep at night. All I have to say is at Redemption, the lame walk, the blind see, and the Gospel is preached to the poor, and everyone is living under a blessed and prosperous Body. If we were wrong, wouldn't God see to it that things in the ministry (i.e. signs and wonders) wouldn't happen?? Lol. Chew on that a while bro... be blessed.
@SpreadingTrueGospel -- What's your point of people being in wheel chairs then and now? Are you saying because he's a man of God he should be able to miraculously heal people?
Healing and great works don't solely depend on the man of God. Even Jesus, in Matthew 13:58 was unable to do great works in Nazareth because of their unbelief. People can have hands laid on them, covered in oil, and cry out at the alter all they want, but if FAITH is lacking their efforts are in vain.
to the author, i am not here to tear you down, we get that enough from life as it is(still learning to rejoice in it). i read your info about the video. I don't have scripture to teach you about what i am to say. I had belonged to a church back in fresh year of college. I liked church but some of what pastor said was too much(not biblical). I left the church. I wondered after that,what had it been like if I went to the pastor and voiced my thoughts concerning those troublesome opinions?.
I thought what if I were to ignorant(not stupid), to realize maybe God was showing me something He wanted me to pray for the pastor about. What if I would have prayed stedfast waiting on the Holy Spirit to lead me to what to pray and possibly when and who to voice my concerns with. What if God wanted to see if I would still bless what He had called blessed; and waited for God to give me lead.
First off, its easy to take things out of context and only post what benefits your argument and what a ridiculous one it is. One can go all throughout the Bible and take things out of context to make it seem as though its a contradiction, just as you have. Apostle Ron is a phenomenal teacher and great man of God. Hes has an annointing on his life that many are jealous of. Yes, fellow brothers in Christ being envious of one another like the Corinthians and their spiritual gifts.
When God spoke the Heavens and the Earth into existence did his speaking make a sound? Good effort though. Also there are plenty of programs you can use to capture a video. That way you don't have to film your monitor.
Seek after the true father and son YaHuWaH and his son YaHushuWah
My people will perish for a lack of knowledge remember the church lives inside of us as long as 2 or 3 come in his name.. Our Father no longer dwells in buildings made by man anyone
Read Your Bibles People you will have alot more knowledge do your research and studying
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
AND GOD SAID!!! Eventhought there is no record in verse one! GOD MUST OF HAD SAID, COMMANDED THE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO FORM....THEREFORE SOUND! HIS WORD! HIS COMMAND! HIS VOICE!!! WAS AT THE VERY BEGINING OF IT ALL!!!
There would not be much of a point for me to leave that comment if I wasn't. CHRISTIANITY is pagan. A true follower of the Messiah would look into what they believe, and not be an ignorant worshipper.
You still are under the impression that the Creator can be called "god" and it's ok.
In the beginning "god" created the Heaven and the Earth. It didn't say how he did it...but he just "did" it. The foolishness to support that man is overwhelming
1'st lets talk about the beginning. The beginning of what? The beginning of everything? (including God's very existence) obviously not! But the beginning of Time, Space, & Matter. God must have created sound first because thats what he used to create everything else. You're not so bright I would be embarrassed to be you posting the crap you are posting. But I guess if I had no life I would find some no-good crap to do like yourself as well.
@rwoc2230 You have people who are known for DEVIL-WORSHIP all over your page!!! hhahahahaa....wow, Bon Jovi? Journey? It makes sense though, just as Apostle Ron listens to Heavy Metal himself, and doesn't list the Bible as his favorite book on MySpace.
The Creator of Heaven & Earth didn't even allow you to type "Satan" or "liar" wrong, just to show your ignorance.
The messiah came TO SEPERATE the sheep from the goat, so what "gospel" are you preaching?
I got that information first hand and know ALL of the parties involved where the information was stolen. (CHF) The program (UltraFit) has been around for longer than Shawn, The manager, has been out of diapers. The SON is pleased that I know that I can call on him and know that he is my friend. I am sure that he is please that you know him as well. I understand your logic as it is a firm reality. Let us agree that we are very blessed to have the honor of knowing the SON of GOD.
Not a very good job at exposing anything here. I personally dont know the Apostle Ron, but I believe he is a God fearing man. At verse 3, God spoke light into exsistense. So looking at this from a spiritual stand point, the God would have spoken whatever he wanted into exsistense. I think he make a lot of sense. You can argue that space is needed for sound to exisist, but what we understand, and what God does is different. Through God, ALL things are possible. Even sound without space.
Your right that is possible, and if you choose and feel led to preach that message, go ahead.
Now, I dont claim to not know Apostle, I'm telling you I dont. Do I watch his sermons, yep!! But what I gather, he seems to be a God fearing man. Now you CLAIM to spread the Word, but yet you tell me to shut my mouth, great way to spread the love of our Savior.
If you want to expose someone, at least get everything in context. Taking part of video to meet your need is a like a.....
Preacher taking part of verse to meet his doctrine.
Not sure what happened to you at that church, not sure why you feel that he's a false teacher, and I would be more than happy to hear why you claim he's a false teacher, but get some better evidence than this before you post it.
thumbs down to your comment. you are just like the many people out there who simply expects LOVE, love....L-o-V-E!!! hahaha, then u get rebuKed, and start to cry about it? this type of crap makes me shake my head. don't you know that it's also about RIGHTEOUSNESS? shut your stinking mouth-- there, I said it too
@srjrfan88 you're a LIAR-- you said you were done with this thread, yet you keep on preaching the lies you have learned. I am not even sure if you're the same guy I said I wasn't going to answer to anymore, but YOU are a fool, who don't know the Lord.
Wtf?!? how can u sit there and doubt what god has put in his heart to tell all of his people?
kimberly8266 1 week ago
Remember: Judge not that ye may not be judged!!! It is a shame that you claim to be more righteous because of the knowledge you are not applying. And I wonder, do you understand English? The bible does say In the beginning God created... This does not in any way imply that the FIRST thing God created was the heavens and the earth! And try not to interprete out of context.
yemen59 1 month ago
I'd appreciate it if you would know what you're talking about before you go and run your mouth about someone you know NOTHING about. You don't like him or what he preaches? Simple as not listening to him.
chanlin101 1 month ago
Again-the text in Genesis is God said let there be ...not God thought- Let there be!
NotFlaking 2 months ago
He speaks from the heart with his own opinions. Judging for what a man says out of his heart isn't for anyone to do but GOD. If u are a true Christian than you should be understanding about a man who made a mistake. A man. A less than perfect individual who deserves respect for teaching people in a different way than you. Its not false, just different.
like2drnkbr 4 months ago
Only God can judge. If Apostle Ron is wrong then he will be Judged by God Himself. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to try to belittle him like this. And for THAT you will be accounted. What good have you done by putting this on youtube? What example have you shown the world on how to treat others? Look at YOURSELF before you throw the first stone.
qtclover 4 months ago
stupid what?!!! christian or not i'm still in the flesh and i'd like to erase your mama's memory of you , creep !
debjesic 5 months ago
@spreadingtruegospel................i'm not sure you are even Christian or Jew because of the language that you use. God encourages us through his word in both old and new testiment... Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. And in the new testament it continues to say ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.” Do you even love yourself?
csimstx1 5 months ago
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ABOI1987 5 months ago
You know, here's this guy that hides himself so that others can"t see who he is, just so he can try to put Apostles Ron down. Then he has the balls to name himself as " Spreading true gospel " but in truth, all he is, is an uneducated fool. But I don't need to tell all these readers that. Just read his replies and you will see for your self. Any man that has to say Quote, "U ignorant Motherfu!!er!" sure isn't any man of God. But neither is an Anti christian. we will pray for you, u need it bad.
1Prizewinner 6 months ago
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO alll yall (HATERS) need to get off my apostles back.
WestBeatAmericans 6 months ago
I love how people sit and trash those who bring Gods word. It just shows how much more the preacher is doing what God has called him to do. The more we get attacked by speaking His word, the more ammo we get to keep going. Pastor Ron is a great man of God and those that sit judging him or others are not better. Watch what u say because on judgement day U will be questioned.
yaritzahommy 6 months ago
He has no right to call himself Apostle . I have been to that church as well for a visit.The only apostles are appointed by Jesus and his authority . (see the gospel of Jesus Christ)I suppose GOd was cleared him to pay for plastic surgery for his wife? Of course not , that was him living according to the flesh .
CAtholic29 6 months ago
Would our lord and savior Jesus Christ approve of the way your coming at people and the language your using? Proverbs 15:1 A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. Check yourself first!
honeybee1226 6 months ago
That is my church and my paster and I'm going to stand up for both !
I would love to get in the boxing ring with you for a light work out .
boxerisi 7 months ago
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I bet you would not say any of that to Rons face
or mine
YOU IDIOT
boxerisi 7 months ago
you clearly need a revelation from God's holy spirit instead of causing confusion and chaos. Be careful who you try to tear down, especially a man of God
PrincessRedeemed7 7 months ago
PrincessRedeemed7 = TRUTH IS GOING FORWARD ON THIS VIDEO! .....that you got conned into giving this false teacher your wages? Is a sad day for the fooled followers of mr. ron. I see you did not ask any "questions" to get some clarity on why he falls into the false teacher money/message pit? That would be the first thing to do here. Ask WHY the video poster felt the need to post this? And then READ & COMPARE HOLY SCRIPTURE AGAINST RON'$ TEACHING$
memama2 7 months ago
PrincessRedeemed7 ......false "revelations" come from demonic forces. New words from ron do not TRUMP TRUTH found in Holy Scipture = EVER!
memama2 7 months ago
Sound is the first thing that God created because befor you get anyting done you have to speak it which will make sound..... the power of life and death is in the tounges. .and we have to remeber that the scripture was written by man not God. They only wrote what God allowed them to write because there is a whole lot of stuff tht happend in the biblical days that is not recorded in the bible. so we all need to stop trying to find falts in everyone else and look at us.... for a change.
HolyVisitation 8 months ago
Ive known this man and his father all my life and I know that they are the real thing. I feel very sorry for the person making these accusations. You better not touch God' annointed ones. Ive seen more than one person make this mistake and brother it is a big big mistake. I know that Ron, Jr is from GOD and he is doing all he can do to preach the word. How on earth could he have done what he has done without the yoke destoying burden removing annointing of GOD. Bless you RON.
buildit000 9 months ago
i agree with ablondycupcake i am a member of his church and he is not a false teacher...and his name is not YaHuwah...its Yahweh now you get it together...
pearleemusik 9 months ago
@pearleemusik you're right about one thing...his name isn't YAHUWAH, it's Y-A-H-A-W-A-H!!!!
You stupid woman, you have no idea where the name "Yahweh" came from or what it means. Even a strong's concordance proves that "Yahweh" is not his name
SpreadingTrueGospel 9 months ago
Quick question is there anywhere in the bible that God created something using anything besides a word?
ffemt239 10 months ago
@ffemt239 actually yes. Read Genesis chapter 2 there are numerous things God created with out words. But just because I'm pointing this out to you does not mean that I agree with the poster of the video. This man uses curse words to try and make a point but ends up showing himself to be a fool.
mindsetmovies 6 months ago
God had to it speak first, to cause things to exsit. Therefore Out of the sound of His voice He made made every thing. Stop taking things out of contex and please, please, lets use our common sence, and stop being falt finders.
lenalathum 10 months ago
@lenalathum since you know so much about "God"
tell me exactly what does the word "god" mean. I'll wait while you "google" for the answer...
SpreadingTrueGospel 9 months ago
@lenalathum thank you for the truth. he did take it out of context. He didnt play the rest of the video and after confronted with the truth he diverted an answer like the woman at the well and then asked you an irrelevant question and assumed (quite arrogantly) that you do were #1 sitting at your PC with nothing better to do and #2 you didnt know the answer and #3 you need to google it....wow they give a youtube account to anyBODY!
TheQster1 1 month ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel Wow, that's bitingly funny... but I am not sure that God or Jesus would use that mean spirited technique to build a bridge between themselves and others who opposed themselves... but that is assuming your goal is to build bridges and to win or convinced others with the gospel... which probably isn't your goal judging by the first few post in this discourse.
JamesJenningsChannel 1 month ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel Boy are you rude!!! Some disciple you are!
yemen59 1 month ago
@lenalathum God could have thought it to make it happen too but the word said God said not God thought
NotFlaking 2 months ago
@lenalathum I agree with you the bible said "God said," not God thought
NotFlaking 2 months ago
I was at the Hyatt this year while the marriage conference was going on. I was shocked, after the banquet, when it was time for the dance, how many skanky-looking women I saw. I was also shocked at the songs that were being played -- hip-hop songs of today that included lyrics about "sexing" women, oral sex, strippers, etc.
That was a marriage conference put on by a church? Really?!
KAP121483 11 months ago
Listen to what he said and why..... When God created the heavens and the earth he spoke them into existence. What came first, Heaven & earth, or the sound of his voice calling them to exist? Try hearing what he's saying rather than looking a reason to disagree. The message is true and sound.
namllew1 1 year ago
Thank you mysterical84
skillmann1 1 year ago
Wow all this energy and bantering over Apostle Ron and the Word of God,
I wonder how many souls just got saved... We have to remember when we get in public domains we are being watched by the lost and this kind of stuff does not encourage people to come to Jesus. I cant cite this where the scripture is about when the disciples were with Jesus and some other people were casting out demons and Jesus relpy was if they arent against us they are for us.. thank you google Mark 9:40
lennoxnjane 1 year ago
@lennoxnjane you stupid fucker....nobody is SAVED yet according to MARK 13:13
SpreadingTrueGospel 9 months ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel Out of context. Mark 13:4 puts verse 13 in perspective. Careful not to misquote the Bible to serve your own means. ALL things must be taken in context and to say that people are not already saved is ludicrous. Galations 2:16
mindsetmovies 6 months ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel ALSO check out James 2:18 it puts the whole salvation through works argument to sleep. You may think that this verse actually upholds your beliefs however James was saying that our faith is shown through our works. Not that our faith is made perfect through works.
mindsetmovies 6 months ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel When one curses and makes angry emotional slurs or insults they lose the argument and come across as a raging lunatic! It is very immature way to get one's point across.
NotFlaking 5 months ago
The comment was for the person using the F word and calling a person stupid Lennoxane?Intelligent people make their points in a calm, respectful manner, without cursing and insults, don't you think?
NotFlaking 5 months ago
@NotFlaking Sorry that part about raging lunatic was for the person who dropped the fu;k word not to you!
NotFlaking 5 months ago
I mean not to the author of this blog but anyone who can't calmly state their comment without cursing and hateful speech! This is not the forum to be a shock jock! It is a site for seekers and Christian issues? Am I correct.
NotFlaking 5 months ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel Just because you can quote the scriptures, doesn't mean you know anything. The hate you use is not anything God associated. Mark 13:13 is referring to the Jews @the Tribulation. If they hold fast then they will be saved. It is the Jews who Jesus came to save, but they refused Him, so then through Paul Jesus Christ gave the New Covenant and Romans 10:9 confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
maclayberg 4 months ago
To spreading the truth: I have a concern when people display a half message without the entire sermon to go by. Ever single word in the bible is there for a reason esp. if it repeated, do you agree? Count the number of passage" GOD SAID" in the first chapter of Genesis. One could conclude that God verbally spoke the word out loud, otherwise the text could have been written as "AND GOD THOUGHT, LET THERE BE". Isn't saying a verbal action? Just saying, this could be something to digest.
NotFlaking 5 months ago
YOU SHOULDN'T CAST STONES! REMEMBER YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE AS WELL...
marcy1959able 1 year ago
before you made that statement did you stop to think that the SOUND of God's voice created what you see right now?
nolywhi 1 year ago
@nolywhi - It's bad exegesis to impose upon scripture, that which it does not clearly communicate. "God said" is what the bible reflects, but who here knows if He said it audibly? Surely not I, and I think its safe to say Ron wasn't there either. If He did say it audibly,who was there to confirm it? Is it written in such a fashion as to say that? NO, it is not. We as finite beings speak in our minds, and yet it is not audible to others. How much moreso with God. Think about it...
Boanerges7 11 months ago
sir i pray 4 you , but it is you takeing things out of context , and being misleading
brokenws70 1 year ago
What was missed in your translations of this is that everthing created was created by God in the form of him speaking it into existance the fact that it does say that he spoke everything into existance leads you to account for sound sound had to be there for this to happen.
1197justin 1 year ago
I appreciate your guard. I really do. I read the scriptures and glean with a fine toothed comb and analytically process what I'm reading. So I subject to you what I see.
and God "SAID" "said" is not complete without perception. There must be some form of "hearing" for "said" to have a purpose.
songsmithdan 1 year ago
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gloryolivine 1 year ago
keep spreading that truth my brother....great job :)
mark 13:13
HeavenlyInspired 1 year ago
@HeavenlyInspired you are both taking mark 13:13 out of context. read the entire chapter before just quoting verses. It makes you realize the context of this passage. You would do well to read GALATIANS 2:16 as well.
mindsetmovies 6 months ago
@mindsetmovies I love how you say read the entire chapter before just quoting verses! That's something I tell people a lot. You can't look at one part and over the others. God is a God of order and a God of completion. Thanks for that comment
Clayton15sings 5 months ago
Right study... But when God speaks he speaks.. But the sound is correct the Bible says there came a mighty sound from heaven like a might rushing wind. He had to hear the sound in order to create the universe because he imagined all this before he even decided to create us. and with imagination comse sound.. Becuse when you dream or vision something you dont just do it quitely you picture it with Sound.
HolyVisitation 1 year ago
first of all u must be very dum cause u think just a little bit and u pause it why not here it like it is maybe ur just to dum to understand what he is saying or to dum to keep listening to get the point
techmaster7545 1 year ago
Wrong you are bro, sound had to transmitt the words being spokin by God.Just because its not written in the logos didn't stop it from being. How did all the angels worship god before the word was written? As chief light bearer how did lucifer then lead the worship? -SOUND of course.Cearly the word doesn't give us every detail that ever happend from eternity to now, Just enough to teach us what we need to know.
apostolicbishop 1 year ago
completely taking what Ron is saying out of context
hmike2dcl 1 year ago
the big problem with some of us is that we tend to only pull certain words out of the bible and say thats what that means. you have to read and understand the whole chapter to understand those words or you'll get very confused. God is great and that church is full of God's presence on sunday morning and wednsday night.
Mbartee25 1 year ago
I'm just trying to understand..if you are "spreading the gospel" why are your using such foul language?
AllyXandria86 1 year ago 5
Ron Carpenter Jr., teaches that God has brought humans out of himself, that humans pre-existed as God's potential, God "reproduces" himself resulting in humans, that Adam under went an essential change after the potential of Eve was removed from him in the form of a rib. Ron is in error.
crosswayokc 1 year ago
still fake
rwoc2230 1 year ago
Before God created anything he said let there be light, and when he said let there be light that was a sound. If sound wasnt the first thing created how could he say let there be light. and the bible says dont judge for if you do you shall be judged on judgment day, so if your a man of God why are you judging??
darien16trap 1 year ago
Psalm 105:14 "Do not touch my anointed ones, do my prophets no harm." You better make sure you know what you are talking about because if he is God's anointed you are bringing judgement on yourself. And you might want to take your own advice and read for yourself. GOD BLESS.
drkustoms 1 year ago
How can you with one mouth criticize and cast stones and then turn around and say shaloam? Theres no preacher perfect. Why dont you find something productive to do for God, instead of trying to bring reproach on Gods people.
hydracostudio 1 year ago
@hydracostudio what are you talking about? Read what I wrote one more time. I never criticized him. I simply defended that fact that I was called a B****. Please take one more time to read the entire thing. I gave one scripture and then was called a b****. That was my only complaint. I never called him anything horrible or said anything bad, so to say to him have a blessed evening wasn't out of character for what I said. It would however be out of character for him to have said that.
jtho7518 1 year ago
Romans 14 Verse 4
jtho7518 1 year ago 4
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@jtho7518 HE'S NOT A SERVANT OF THE LORD!!! HE STILL REFERS TO THE MESSIAH AS JESUS YOU DUMB BITCH!!!!
John 7:24 "judge with righteous judgment"....duhhh!!!! Titus 1:13 'REBUKE THEM SHARPLY"
The most HIGH is destroying this Earth you dumb fucking bitch--and the truth is coming to light about ALL of these wicked churches! We are close to the end, and yo ass don't understand that GOD AINT AT CHURCH? ACT 7:48, ACTS 17:24, HEBREWS 9:24
SpreadingTrueGospel 1 year ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel How can you quote scripture and curse at me at the same time. I didn't curse or attack you with anger, I simply gave you a scripture you should think about and clearly by what you called me, maybe it is something you should meditate on. Maybe instead of reading the verse you should read the whole chapter. You tried to correct me but instead you just proved my point. Have a blessed evening.
jtho7518 1 year ago
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:1-4 (KJV)
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2 minutes ago @tlowensjr; That is so true,,, WORD is sound... Before God could speak light be or let there be firmament and so forth, he had to have the sound of THE WORD to speak it! Makes perfect sense to me... :s
tshook55 1 year ago
mega church leaders will increasingly be challenged. rightly so. they live a life outside of what they preach. carpenter is no diff. people see the hypocrisy from most lavisg living preachers. its about time
flpete 1 year ago
Why are you trying to destroy and criticize and put down a true man of the Word.? Dont you have anything beter to do?
swtangel0207 1 year ago
What is this "true gospel" that you wish to spread? To be a foul-mouthed, self-righteous jerk? We already see enough of that, thank you very much.
baronshober 1 year ago
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:1-4 (KJV)
tlowensjr 1 year ago 2
@tlowensjr; That is so true,,, WORD is sound... Before God could speak light be or let there be firmament and so forth, he had to have the sound of THE WORD to speak it! Makes perfect sense to me... :s
tshook55 1 year ago
Does he preach what you need to hear or what you want to hear in order to tickle your ears?
Why does he repeat the same generic things over and over and over like he does not put a lot of time into coming up with new material?
th3w4tchm3n 1 year ago
@th3w4tchm3n What do you mean "repeat the same generic things"?
I grew up going to church and never heard some of the things that Apostle Ron preaches. He seems to me to have plenty of material, but I have actually been listening to him for a while. If you are gleaning bits of info from internet or tv I can understand why you think what you do.
baronshober 1 year ago
@baronshober Almost everyone in that area has been to that mega-church at least once. Anyone that has gone there long enough knows the comments I made below are true. If even longer then they saw it change over time like everything else to all about RON...
th3w4tchm3n 1 year ago
@th3w4tchm3n I am in "that area," you are not. I have "gone there long enough," you have not. The comments you made are grossly inaccurate but keeping with misinformation in circulation. Forgive me if I put no stock in your second- or third-hand information over my extensive first-hand information.
baronshober 1 year ago
I know more than you realize, but which of these statements are wrong:
Ron does not teach about Hell and its horrors.
We are obviously in the endtimes but he does not seem to notice or preach on it.
He preaches about increase like Osteen. Why not give it all away like Jesus said?
Ron has ear piece wearing goons guarding him showing a great lack of faith.
People in his own church can never really talk to Ron or open their hearts to him?
th3w4tchm3n 1 year ago
@th3w4tchm3n He has preached about Hell, he has preached that we are in the endtimes, our gifts may bring us increase but they are for the benefit of others not us, ushers protect him for the threats and attempts on his life, he is only one man in a church of 14,000 and there are many leaders in there to open my heart to.
baronshober 1 year ago
@th3w4tchm3n Your first and second points are wrong. He has preached both points. He preaches that God will give us the increase we need to fulfill His purpose for our lives. The ushers because of past assault attempts. He has enough faith to preach even with death threats. He is one man in a church of thousands; I don't mind connecting with another leader in the church.
baronshober 1 year ago
Bless you brother.
Why does he not teach about Hell and its horrors?
We are obviously in the endtimes but he does not seem to notice. Why is this?
Why does he only preach about increase like Osteen?
Who started all these mega churches and does he even still like what he started?
Why does Ron have ear piece wearing goons guarding him? Where is his faith?
Why can't people in his own church ever really talk to Ron or open their hearts to him?
th3w4tchm3n 1 year ago
@th3w4tchm3n I go to his church and it is clear that you don't really know what you are talking about. No offense meant. It is just that your questions denote a basic ignorance of him and the ministry he heads.
baronshober 1 year ago
God created everything by speaking it. "God said..." "God said..." etc. Yes, the first thing was the heavens and the earth, but God used sound (His Word, which is Jesus by the way) to create with. You have not "exposed" Apos. Carpenter with this weak argument, you have exposed your own misinterpretation of what he was preaching. That's why you could only use ~5 sec. of the sermon.
baronshober 1 year ago
lol false app i belive u
rwoc2230 1 year ago
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SpreadingTrueGospel 1 year ago
@rwoc2230 do u believe everything you're told..? why spend your time putting down a true man of God preaching his Word?
swtangel0207 1 year ago
Sadly today the church has become lot of sheeple willing to placate the evil infiltrators. And allow nothing but permissive agreeing with the liars = "conversations" inside of their doors. And ignore that Christ was also about CONDEMNATION! For those who do evil ; or teach falsely! He calls them "from their father the devil" ~
memama2 1 year ago
Genesis is the first book in the bible but by chronology its not...its Job! God's power that he shared with man was the ability to create with the words we speak. I'm not here to be negative...but if he is false, have you prayed for him that he might find truth and repent! If not my friend, then you are acting out satan's character. For our bible tells us that he is the accuser of the brotheren.
mysterical84 1 year ago 12
mysterical= we do NOT "puppet" Holy Unique Creator Triune GOD with our "words"! ....that is a teaching from satanic underlings and Oprahs godless gurus! ...if WE? create with "the words we speak"??? Then why does anyone ever die? Even the people Jesus Christ Himself healed! Died! Sadly YOU="mysterical" think that False Prophets can be allowed to ravage The Body of Christ WITH NO DISAGREEMENTS? The Bible tells us to discern and ACCUSE people of many things! False prophets being one of them
memama2 1 year ago
@mysterical84 JESUS CHRIST didn't pray for everyone, so why should I??? JOHN 17:9, you ignorant motherfucker!
SpreadingTrueGospel 9 months ago
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mindsetmovies 6 months ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel You're right. I would not want you praying for me either. You need to pray for yourself first. Also you REALLY REALLY show your works that you quoted Mark 13:13. Do you think the Lord wants you name calling his other children? Or using profanity with them? Come on man you know better. I don't know Ron BUT it seems to me that you are taking him out of context just as you are taking the Bible out of context. I think you've forgotten your first love. seems he hit a nerve.
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Am sure god is pleased with you at least you are trying if not for nothing ,some people are still totally in the dark.thanks am following you and you are choosen and bless so says god.....to me.
talkwithmaria 4 months ago
I will pray for you.
olive4beauty 1 year ago
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whoever posted this pastor Ron is gonna have your ass knocked off with all that money he is getting from those single mothers. LOL
Tiara71783 1 year ago
Im glad you got 5 thumbs down for your ignorant comment. I will make it six.
2HELLwitESAUnD2third 1 year ago
It is sad this BROTHER has to use a satanic device of manipulation to call a man of GOD a false Apostle. YOU need to post the whole sermon and don't put false statements out about someone you truly don't know. TRUST ME I have met & served the CARPENTERS and know what real people of GOD they are. RON & HOPE aren't twisting the word he is trying to bring FREEDOM and DELIVERANCE to a people who are done with sin and are committed to JESUS! RUN TELL THAT ! GREENVILLE SC 29607
mljr2008 1 year ago 3
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JESUS isn't even the true name of the messiah. So what the hell are you talking about?
You are probably a goddamn devil yourself. The most High only loves ISRAEL, you cocksucker. Run tell that-- faggot
2HELLwitESAUnD2third 1 year ago
The Bible was not intended to be used as a science book. I also grew up in RWOC. I disagree with his theology but that church is getting kids off the streets. I think God knows Carpenter's intentions He's a good man but that church wasn't for me. I've found Christ's true Church, The Orthodox Church. Peace be to all!
trotsafrikaner 1 year ago
wheres the rest of the clip you showed your part but didnt let him finish many people feel weird and i thought talking in tounges was weird to till i got overwhelmed and did it why point finger and have three pointed back at you if Jehovah is your God then give him praise shut up with petty nonsense you sound like a goofball looser that lives with his mother but wait that be judgeing and pointing but hey God is good and i can account for apostle ron hes a man of God and watch the whole sermon
clhmarine82 1 year ago
seriously though, creating hatred for someone is dark in itself. Pastor Ron is a very well developed minister who is human and free to make mistakes although this what you point out is merely garbage and you should be trying to correct your envy and your malice because both are deadly sins. If you think he is wrong pray for him instead of stone him for we are in the covenant of Jesus Christ and he taught ultimate forgiveness!
chaderdley 1 year ago 2
Pastor "con" is a fraud
2HELLwitESAUnD2third 1 year ago
God doesn't love everyone, and didn't teach to love everyone. You don't read the Bible well enough to know that though
2HELLwitESAUnD2third 1 year ago
dont point out the spec of dust in your neighbor's eye when you cannot see from the log in yours.
chaderdley 1 year ago
Just a question: if sound wasn't first, how is it that "God said"?
TransformationHouse 1 year ago
Taking things out of context is VERY common these days. Try posting the Apostle Ron's message in it's entirety.
ablondycupcake 1 year ago 12
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SpreadingTrueGospel 1 year ago
@ablondycupcake hes a great preacher and a man of God. dont any of you have anything better to do than critcize a born again christian?
swtangel0207 1 year ago
@ablondycupcake bullshit. You don't need to post the complete video to point out FALSE-TEACHINGS
SpreadingTrueGospel 9 months ago
ablondycupcake = the false teachers and Scripture twisters have free reign to fleece the flocks wallets and minds and lie lie lie like the devil. You? Agree to ignore the obvious error after error.
memama2 7 months ago
i UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MADE THIS CLAIM. NOT THE FACT TO EXPOSE RON FOR HE HAS DONE NOUTHING WRONG. FOR WHAT DO YOU GAIN OUT OF THIS IS TO SAY THAT YOUR VIDEO RECIVED MANY HITS BECAUSE YOU ARE ATTACKING A PASTOR WITH LOTS OF FOLLOWERS. THE MORE THE WORD GETS OUT BOUT THIS CLIP THE MORE PEOPLE WILL VIEW WEATHER THEY ARE FROM R.W.O.C. OR SOME OTHER. I FEEL LIKE YOU CANNOT REACH THE SPIRITUAL LEVEL RON IS AT. SO THEREFORE YOU ARE TEARING HIM DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL. SHAME ON YOU
srp2009able 1 year ago 3
shame on YOU for following a liar. Salvation is of the Jews, the covenant was intended for Israel. You're lost, you think GOD loves everyone-- you faggot. Read Proverbs 16:4
Fuck how many views it gets, those who love the truth will contend with those who break the law
2HELLwitESAUnD2third 1 year ago
@2HELLwitESAUnD2third and I care because???? I was being funny...NEXT
Tiara71783 1 year ago
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@2HELLwitESAUnD2third God so loved THE WORLD that he gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 I thought everyone knew that scripture!
PorterBCyr 1 year ago
In Matthew 9 the Bible says, 29 Then He touched their eyes, saying, According to your faith let it be to you. 30 And their eyes were opened.
Key words there, "according to your faith". It's not dependent upon my belief in your healing, but the belief and faith you have in God inspite of how your situation may currently appear.
lt1pnyklr 1 year ago
Jesus himself said there will be people that get the Kingdom and others that will not, don't look down on a man who God has given great discernment and annointed like he has Apostle Ron.
lt1pnyklr 2 years ago 3
Apostle Rons teachings may be out of the box and certainly not traditional, but God isn't a "traditional" God that many confine to their own box. Apostle Rons messages challenge people and many do not like that. When it demands change on someone life that hates change or is comfortable in their current stagnant state with God, of course they will say his teachings are absurd.
lt1pnyklr 2 years ago 2
It's impossible and pointless to argue with ignorant people. SpreadingTrueGospel, is doing nothing but spreading rumors, blasphemy, envy, and jealousy towards a fellow brother of the Kingdom. It's sad that this is what our "Christian" faith has come to. Instead of uplifting and encouraging one another, we are tearing each other down while the world around us goes to hell.
lt1pnyklr 2 years ago 3
Christianity is Pagan along with the other religions
God only loves The Children Of Israel they are above all nations
The 12 Tribes of Israel
HeavenlyInspired 2 years ago
actually ima veg.
tallen0679 2 years ago
@HeavenlyInspired what bible are you reading? lol
PorterBCyr 1 year ago 2
your right people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. you are one that lacks. the bibnle starts out in the beginning stating that God is the alpha God speaks thing into existence this preacher is a great man from God no reason to be a hater at him
srp2009able 2 years ago
@srp2009able you type with an error on the most important word "Bible"...everything happens for a reason....to show everyone who's the real fool. You're simple
"How long will ye simple ones love simplicity?"
He might be a man of God, but he's not a man of Yahawah (which is "god's real name)
You are defending the wicked which is an abomination.
Someone who's seeking the truth, and have had their eyes open, find ERRORS all through-out his teachings
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
Genesis 1:1 and 3: 1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 3 And God SAID, "Let there be light," and there was light. Let me repeat...AND GOD SAID! God used SOUND to SPEAK creation into exsistence. Ps 105:15 says "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm." I would recommend that you stop trying to tear down other ministries and focus on your own. We are all called to the same purpose...to preach the good news of the gospel.
VMoore84 2 years ago 2
@VMoore84 What is the true Gospel?
To Tell The Children Of Israel 12 tribes To Wake Up and To Obey his Commandments.. Sorry But God dont love everyone and everyone want be saved just because you repeat a prayer
If you love me you will keep my commandments ..Many will say Lord I have casted out demons in your name..Workers of Iniquity I Never Knew You
Many will be surprised on that day b/c of false doctrine taught by man
HeavenlyInspired 2 years ago
... Haha, brother, you're tripping hard. Doesn't the WORD of God bring things into existance?... lol. Chill bro. Understand the workings of God. I guess if you spent more time researching how God creates and less time trying to find folly in God's annointed, you'd know better. I pray for your soul bruh. When you go against God's chosen, that's like going against God Himself.
bassd06 2 years ago 3
@bassd06 Apostle Ron is not "chosen", he teaches many erroneous things--including BREAKING the LAWS
You better back up, because YOU are dealing with one of his CHOSEN. You are un-learned and rebellious...not know much about the BIBLE
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel Wow. Ok, bro. Whatever helps you sleep at night. All I have to say is at Redemption, the lame walk, the blind see, and the Gospel is preached to the poor, and everyone is living under a blessed and prosperous Body. If we were wrong, wouldn't God see to it that things in the ministry (i.e. signs and wonders) wouldn't happen?? Lol. Chew on that a while bro... be blessed.
bassd06 2 years ago
@bassd06 YOU MUST BE CRAZY AS HELL!!!
Look @ Apostle "Con's" teaching from last Wed...he tells you himself that a whole bunch of his people are SICK
I sat under him for 3 years, and the people in wheel-chairs, still are there.
Don't you know that the WICKED magicians in the time of Moses had "signs and wonders" as well?
You are blind Mr. Christian, and the most High is going to put you hypocrites to death.
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel yo dude he was referring to sickness as to health... SOUNDS LIKE YA ARE FULL OF ENVY WHAT GOD HAS BLESSED
srp2009able 2 years ago 2
@SpreadingTrueGospel -- What's your point of people being in wheel chairs then and now? Are you saying because he's a man of God he should be able to miraculously heal people?
Healing and great works don't solely depend on the man of God. Even Jesus, in Matthew 13:58 was unable to do great works in Nazareth because of their unbelief. People can have hands laid on them, covered in oil, and cry out at the alter all they want, but if FAITH is lacking their efforts are in vain.
lt1pnyklr 1 year ago
to the author, i am not here to tear you down, we get that enough from life as it is(still learning to rejoice in it). i read your info about the video. I don't have scripture to teach you about what i am to say. I had belonged to a church back in fresh year of college. I liked church but some of what pastor said was too much(not biblical). I left the church. I wondered after that,what had it been like if I went to the pastor and voiced my thoughts concerning those troublesome opinions?.
Grace2abound 2 years ago
I thought what if I were to ignorant(not stupid), to realize maybe God was showing me something He wanted me to pray for the pastor about. What if I would have prayed stedfast waiting on the Holy Spirit to lead me to what to pray and possibly when and who to voice my concerns with. What if God wanted to see if I would still bless what He had called blessed; and waited for God to give me lead.
Grace2abound 2 years ago
i encourage you to "Leave room for conviction and counsel of the Spirit and the body of Christ when forming absolute conclusions." [-s. b. jones]
Grace2abound 2 years ago
First off, its easy to take things out of context and only post what benefits your argument and what a ridiculous one it is. One can go all throughout the Bible and take things out of context to make it seem as though its a contradiction, just as you have. Apostle Ron is a phenomenal teacher and great man of God. Hes has an annointing on his life that many are jealous of. Yes, fellow brothers in Christ being envious of one another like the Corinthians and their spiritual gifts.
lt1pnyklr 2 years ago 2
When God spoke the Heavens and the Earth into existence did his speaking make a sound? Good effort though. Also there are plenty of programs you can use to capture a video. That way you don't have to film your monitor.
Circusmnkee 2 years ago
Seek after the true father and son YaHuWaH and his son YaHushuWah
My people will perish for a lack of knowledge remember the church lives inside of us as long as 2 or 3 come in his name.. Our Father no longer dwells in buildings made by man anyone
Read Your Bibles People you will have alot more knowledge do your research and studying
Have a eye opening day
HeavenlyInspired 2 years ago
@HeavenlyInspired
I appreciate the love & support. it's hard getting the message across!
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel No Problem majority of these hypocrite Christian's are going to burn
HeavenlyInspired 2 years ago
@HeavenlyInspired the true name of the father is YhWH your not that special for me to spell it out and his son is YHWHshi
HeavenlyInspired 2 years ago
7 He speaks to the sun and it does not shine;
he seals off the light of the stars.
Job 9:7
laSIERVAdeNC 2 years ago
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
AND GOD SAID!!! Eventhought there is no record in verse one! GOD MUST OF HAD SAID, COMMANDED THE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO FORM....THEREFORE SOUND! HIS WORD! HIS COMMAND! HIS VOICE!!! WAS AT THE VERY BEGINING OF IT ALL!!!
laSIERVAdeNC 2 years ago
@laSIERVAdeNC
Sorry, but you DON'T have enough evidence that PROVES he "spoke" Heaven and Earth into existance.
Don't be a damned fool who believes whatever these preachers tell you
QadoshMessenger 2 years ago
GENESIS 1:3
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
AND GOD SAID>>>>HE SPEAKS CREATION INTO EXISTENCE>>>
WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT>>>READ WITH UNDERSTANDING>>>U NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT UPON U IN ORDER TO GET THE REVELATON>>>DO U BELIEVE IN HIS HOLY SPIRIT?
laSIERVAdeNC 2 years ago
@laSIERVAdeNC
There would not be much of a point for me to leave that comment if I wasn't. CHRISTIANITY is pagan. A true follower of the Messiah would look into what they believe, and not be an ignorant worshipper.
QadoshMessenger 2 years ago
WHO is your god? My GOD Is JEHOVA the creator! The only true GOD!
laSIERVAdeNC 1 year ago
@laSIERVAdeNC
You still are under the impression that the Creator can be called "god" and it's ok.
In the beginning "god" created the Heaven and the Earth. It didn't say how he did it...but he just "did" it. The foolishness to support that man is overwhelming
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
1'st lets talk about the beginning. The beginning of what? The beginning of everything? (including God's very existence) obviously not! But the beginning of Time, Space, & Matter. God must have created sound first because thats what he used to create everything else. You're not so bright I would be embarrassed to be you posting the crap you are posting. But I guess if I had no life I would find some no-good crap to do like yourself as well.
Camz316 2 years ago
rwoc and myself bless you in jesus name satun is a lier we need to come as a body of christ not like this
rwoc2230 2 years ago 2
@rwoc2230 You have people who are known for DEVIL-WORSHIP all over your page!!! hhahahahaa....wow, Bon Jovi? Journey? It makes sense though, just as Apostle Ron listens to Heavy Metal himself, and doesn't list the Bible as his favorite book on MySpace.
The Creator of Heaven & Earth didn't even allow you to type "Satan" or "liar" wrong, just to show your ignorance.
The messiah came TO SEPERATE the sheep from the goat, so what "gospel" are you preaching?
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
I got that information first hand and know ALL of the parties involved where the information was stolen. (CHF) The program (UltraFit) has been around for longer than Shawn, The manager, has been out of diapers. The SON is pleased that I know that I can call on him and know that he is my friend. I am sure that he is please that you know him as well. I understand your logic as it is a firm reality. Let us agree that we are very blessed to have the honor of knowing the SON of GOD.
fxopp 2 years ago 2
Not a very good job at exposing anything here. I personally dont know the Apostle Ron, but I believe he is a God fearing man. At verse 3, God spoke light into exsistense. So looking at this from a spiritual stand point, the God would have spoken whatever he wanted into exsistense. I think he make a lot of sense. You can argue that space is needed for sound to exisist, but what we understand, and what God does is different. Through God, ALL things are possible. Even sound without space.
srjrfan88 2 years ago
Ok, if all things are possible with GOD, then it is possible that HE could create things without SOUND.
You claim that you don't even know Apostle, then say he is a GOD fearing man... just shut your mouth, plz
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
Your right that is possible, and if you choose and feel led to preach that message, go ahead.
Now, I dont claim to not know Apostle, I'm telling you I dont. Do I watch his sermons, yep!! But what I gather, he seems to be a God fearing man. Now you CLAIM to spread the Word, but yet you tell me to shut my mouth, great way to spread the love of our Savior.
If you want to expose someone, at least get everything in context. Taking part of video to meet your need is a like a.....
srjrfan88 2 years ago
Preacher taking part of verse to meet his doctrine.
Not sure what happened to you at that church, not sure why you feel that he's a false teacher, and I would be more than happy to hear why you claim he's a false teacher, but get some better evidence than this before you post it.
srjrfan88 2 years ago
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@srjrfan88
thumbs down to your comment. you are just like the many people out there who simply expects LOVE, love....L-o-V-E!!! hahaha, then u get rebuKed, and start to cry about it? this type of crap makes me shake my head. don't you know that it's also about RIGHTEOUSNESS? shut your stinking mouth-- there, I said it too
aFlameOfFire 2 years ago
@srjrfan88 You dont read your bilbe enough
The apostles spoke with rude speech
HeavenlyInspired 2 years ago
@HeavenlyInspired. So what your telling me is that we should model ourselves after the Apostles of the bible and not Jesus?
srjrfan88 2 years ago
@srjrfan88 Apostle Paul said "follow me as I follow Christ"
You're perception is twisted, you still think the name of the son is "jesus"
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
@SpreadingTrueGospel, Paul was a man, men fail where Christ doesnt.
srjrfan88 2 years ago
Jesus tells us that we'll be sheep amoung wolves but to be as wise as a serpant, but harmless as a dove. Matthew 10:16
srjrfan88 2 years ago
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@srjrfan88
You sound BRAINWASHED, and not in a good way
aFlameOfFire 2 years ago
Wow....You need to read John 13:34-35, maybe even throw in a little of Mark 12:28-31.
I'm done with this thread, I dust my feet.
Romans 14
God bless you and thanks for the thumbs down.
srjrfan88 2 years ago
@srjrfan88 you're a LIAR-- you said you were done with this thread, yet you keep on preaching the lies you have learned. I am not even sure if you're the same guy I said I wasn't going to answer to anymore, but YOU are a fool, who don't know the Lord.
SpreadingTrueGospel 2 years ago
You caught me, I couldnt help myself, but I believe that the Apostle Paul failed quite a few times too dont ya think?
srjrfan88 2 years ago
@srjrfan88 I bel