You're slightly missing the point. As he said in the video, its also about the journey and enjoyment of it all....if you want p***, go f*** a fatty - nice and easy. Further, and most crucially, not being outcome dependent puts you in touch with the reality that whatever the outcome, it wont change who you are.
Thanks Mr Lyons. Doing an opener and holding an interesting conversation will sometimes be successful in making new friends. Being interesting and holding an interesting conversation is a far more successful way to make new friends. Be the interesting person, don't DO the interesting person routine. You sum it up perfectly Mr Lyons. It took me a few unsuccesses to figure this out, but now I know. Great advice Adam.
If you're looking for a relationship and as such subcommunicate that you're looking for a relationship, isn't THAT being genuine?
You don't want to use parachuting as an analogy for pursuing women. True, you are doing it for the thrill of the freefall, but you DO care about the outcome; not becoming a grease stain. If you're REALLY not dependent on outcomes, why even bother wearing a parachute at all?
You missing the point slightly. What you're talking about is being genuinely NEEDY and noone want's to hang out with a needy Value taker. Why criticise any of it. Just take what you need and discard the rest. You clearly are struggling to get snatch if you're trying to justify being needy. Let it go, and enjoy the process, you will progress alot quicker.
How is what I just said needy? So I want a relationship. What's so terrible about that?
It's hard to enjoy the process when all you ever hear is "no". How do you enjoy anything at all with any positive outcome? Winning isn't everything, but constantly losing is nothing.
you've answered your own dilemma right there. If you hear 'no' then obviously at some level you're asking for something. Secondly you're framing it like a win/lose situation. I don't know you or what your personal situation is but keep an internal frame of reference and only compare yourself to YOUR previous interactions not anyone elses, then it will be less important to you how others respond to you and that will in itself improve your interactions. Peace.
How do you ask "want to go out sometime?" without asking?
"only compare yourself to YOUR previous interactions not anyone elses, then it will be less important to you how others respond to you and that will in itself improve your interactions."
So what does it mean if it's incredibly easy for people to think I'm a great guy but just not dating material? My previous interactions are basically "I like you", "I like you too", "wanna go out?", "oh god, no".
M8, this is bang on.
infinitesimotel 7 months ago
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Oh great teacher!!
YappyRaccoon 10 months ago
That is excellent advice
Apsu72 1 year ago
Excellent advice.
darkENhandsome 2 years ago
wtf?
dude, if someone's gonna study all these openers, routines, stories etc. it is obvious that when he goal when he goes out is going to pick up a girl.
if thats not his goal i would be asking him why the fuck he studied all of that stuff?
if i go out to party, being honest I WANT SOME PUSSY! saying anything else would be a lie.
n1c0isAWESOME 2 years ago
n1c0isAWESOME: That's how you pick up Syphilis, not a woman.
jessweetca 2 years ago 2
You're slightly missing the point. As he said in the video, its also about the journey and enjoyment of it all....if you want p***, go f*** a fatty - nice and easy. Further, and most crucially, not being outcome dependent puts you in touch with the reality that whatever the outcome, it wont change who you are.
milpatel83 2 years ago
and again ... noisy video...... damn
xCrucialDudex 2 years ago
Thanks Mr Lyons. Doing an opener and holding an interesting conversation will sometimes be successful in making new friends. Being interesting and holding an interesting conversation is a far more successful way to make new friends. Be the interesting person, don't DO the interesting person routine. You sum it up perfectly Mr Lyons. It took me a few unsuccesses to figure this out, but now I know. Great advice Adam.
jamesstreet01 2 years ago
What about the time you took an extra helmet with you when you hit that club a loooooong time ago.
Wasn't the aim of bringing an extra helmet to motivate you not to go home alone that night???
simplyalif 3 years ago
In that situation I was allowing myself to succeed. But wouldn't worry if I failed. If I didn't bring out my helmet I would never have succeeded
attractionexplained 2 years ago 2
thats actually really good advice.
MakeMusic4Life 3 years ago
You're always outcome dependent if you're genuinely interested in the girl and are not looking just to get in her pants.
XXXXXXXZar 3 years ago
Aimless conversation achieves no aims.
I'm trying to actually become more focused.
Thanks for confusing me even more.
fedupx5900 3 years ago
Being aimless in conversations doesn't work either.
Believe me.
fedupx5900 3 years ago
great video, nicely articulated.
brocklanders1984 4 years ago
THanks very much man. this is what tyler was sayin at rsdnation. U r a great guy. i am gonna become a natural. i will be
TrancePUA 3 years ago
If you're looking for a relationship and as such subcommunicate that you're looking for a relationship, isn't THAT being genuine?
You don't want to use parachuting as an analogy for pursuing women. True, you are doing it for the thrill of the freefall, but you DO care about the outcome; not becoming a grease stain. If you're REALLY not dependent on outcomes, why even bother wearing a parachute at all?
Bobzeaux 4 years ago
You missing the point slightly. What you're talking about is being genuinely NEEDY and noone want's to hang out with a needy Value taker. Why criticise any of it. Just take what you need and discard the rest. You clearly are struggling to get snatch if you're trying to justify being needy. Let it go, and enjoy the process, you will progress alot quicker.
brocklanders1984 4 years ago
How is what I just said needy? So I want a relationship. What's so terrible about that?
It's hard to enjoy the process when all you ever hear is "no". How do you enjoy anything at all with any positive outcome? Winning isn't everything, but constantly losing is nothing.
Bobzeaux 4 years ago 2
you've answered your own dilemma right there. If you hear 'no' then obviously at some level you're asking for something. Secondly you're framing it like a win/lose situation. I don't know you or what your personal situation is but keep an internal frame of reference and only compare yourself to YOUR previous interactions not anyone elses, then it will be less important to you how others respond to you and that will in itself improve your interactions. Peace.
brocklanders1984 4 years ago
How do you ask "want to go out sometime?" without asking?
"only compare yourself to YOUR previous interactions not anyone elses, then it will be less important to you how others respond to you and that will in itself improve your interactions."
So what does it mean if it's incredibly easy for people to think I'm a great guy but just not dating material? My previous interactions are basically "I like you", "I like you too", "wanna go out?", "oh god, no".
Bobzeaux 4 years ago
Its obvious, when a girl says NO! it means you hadn't built up enough attraction before asking her out.
simple
2FERGIE7 3 years ago
Sheer genius, that. -_-
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
it can also be because there is no connection, and connection is where the game is won...
CarpeDiemLifeStyles 3 years ago
HAHA You should teach man! HAHAH :P what a genius <:o)
(some people dont know this *but Ssst!*)
WarrexX 2 years ago
great advice. nice little video presentation, too. thanks!!
AbstractMan23 4 years ago