Ted L Gunderson on "Trash TV" Geraldo Rivera Show

[MrTestpilot7]

well i got to say one thing about ths the people that kill robe annd destroy they are not of god but of the devil himself ameraca is becoming like sodom in the bible they are turning to satin they dont bleave in god.they have got men with men and woman with women god is comin back and he will destroy all those wicked people frome off the earth,their are still a lot of things that much come to pass before god return such as the antichrist new world order and much more.

[Borakimo]

That Satanist has no idea what he is talking about. He is fooled by the Devil.

[Borakimo]

You know you people posting these comments need God and His truth in your lives. It looks like they have you where they want you all (guessing who's who but never being able to know for sure. You are pathetic. And Satan is your captain unless you come to Jesus the right way. You are so confused.

[tenthousandyearsgoon]

I bet you money Geroldo is a satanist. He fits the part perfectly...

[oldlite]

Eddie from the Munsters has grown up.

[Astrobrant2]

God, this is pitiful. The Satanist is the only one making any rational arguments.

[MichaelHansenFUN]

1:44 "babies sacraficed" in the satanic bible, it says "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD A SATANIST SACRAFICE ANY ANIMAL OR BABY"

satanism ANTON LAVEY is not about murder, worshipping trhe devil, or killing innocent people, animals, or babies, it is about worshipping yourself.

[Borakimo]

@MichaelHansenFUN The worst thing anybody can worship on this earth, is sinful self and this the Devil knows. He worships himself too that's why he was kicked out of heaven. Satanism is self-worship in case you are confused. Get it right self-deceived.

[Borakimo]

Jesus Christ is the only true way, your only hope lest you be forever lost.

[lmollot]

for hope read iroquois women by w spittal- a true blueprint for sane future generations- priests are involved in child-rapist rings- and being a child victim of

priests can make a person very angry and do sadistic acts- saying crime is devil possession only covers up priests crimes-as victims are called possessed insted of victims of priests crimes-boystown which has always sex abused boys-IS STILL OPEN-see franklin coverup-alisha owens was fored to tell the jailed 10 years for "perjury" lying-

[Borakimo]

@lmollot Demonic possession is undeniable. Read the Bible and specially the ministry of Jesus our Lord.

[batvette]

I think this is a really good video because it actually confronts the reality that most of the accusations of Gunderson and his kind amounted to a witch hunt or pursuing the ghosts of their fantastic beliefs. Can you point at a few Satanists? Yep. Some crimes? Sure. But as Aquino points out, name some names, put some people on trial or forget it. Hiding behind some lame excuse about how hard it is to follow the constitutiion and try those you accuse is unacceptable.

[batvette]

some interesting points on your Ted Gunderson page (as linked to in your description) I'm still taking it all in. . Just to note your links to TedGunderson d o t c o m are broken, seems he's using d o t n e t now. Also there is an article at NowPublic d o t c o m by a guy promoting Ted's little circus, if you want to add you view to the comments please do, you won't need to register. go there and enter his name in search, should come right up, author is a user named peacefrog. (just as rabid!)

[batvette]

My basic problem with Gunderson is that he spent 28 years in the FBI culminating in commanding the 2d largest office in the bureau at the height of COINTELPRO activities-and sums up his experience "If there was any corruption in the FBI, I didn't see any- we had a fine organization". He has stated (in a letter to Larry Flynt) that he was a COINTELPRO expert- and after leaving the FBI has been looking in lots of closets at OTHERS' corruption, always vaguely. I think he's still part of the program

[tlthe5th]

@batvette I haven't fully figured out where Mrduffy81 is coming from. He states Eric Phelps can do no wrong and yet MrDuffy81 also thinks "ex" FBI Gunderson is legit. Well what if I told him that Phelps has publicly stated that Gunderson is a Jesuit Coadjutor? Uh oh! Catch 22 there. My Duffy, you need to calm down. And I am asking for an apology for the way you behaved here with your profanity and your cursing me on another channel. if you do that i will unblock you.

[batvette]

@tlthe5th you should see the childish display he left on my channel page, which I usually leave up to self discredit the poster. just bizarre!

I believe this is at least part of what Gunderson is about, catering to people like him and selling them promises of inside info with these DVD's he hawks on his site for up to $200. He's telling them what they want to hear and it sounds so good they fail to realize he's not telling them anything.

[lowryder2able]

@batvette I'm guessing from what I have heard him say that he firmly believed and still does that the black panther party had to go,he's from a generation where using the 'N-word' and all that other bullshit was widely acceptable.I believe that Ted is an example of one of the good guys inside the machine but must accept that I don't like a lot of the stuff he got up to.I think he'd have been compartmentalised out of way of the pure evil work going on around him. I firmly believe he's a good man

[tlthe5th]

@lowryder2able I have a lot of issues with Gunderson. if you listen to him talk on that old Barbara Hartwell video you will hear him say things like agents have come into his house and moved papers around to let him know they were there. Gunderson also promoted psychic investigators in the mainstream news, ie through anderson cooper for one. plus i can keep going. gunderson is good for the mentally challenged but i see right through him over and over again

[lowryder2able]

@tlthe5th batvette and yourself make some very interesting points.

You wouldnt happen to have a spare pair of those x ray specs would you?..No?,

well us mentally challenged will just have to keep trudging through the disinfo then

[tlthe5th]

@lowryder2able i didnt say you were mentally challenged. i said people who would still believe gunderson was legit after reading the different things I saw him say are mentally challenged. or purposely supportive of a disinfo agent which i'm sure he has a lot of those as well.

[batvette]

@lowryder2able COINTELPRO wasn't only about the Panthers, look at the wiki article. Ted has bragged about being a COINTELPRO expert (to Larry Flynt) and while I cannot judge him as a man from a distance I can take a look at what he's been doing and it seems to be the kind of distracting BS straight from the counterintelligence book, with a little bit of opportunism mixed in. Note he always touts all this corruption he has uncovered but doesn't name names, no indictments, no trials.

[batvette]

@lowryder2able I just think he's telling people what they want to hear dropping little tidbits of nothing then sending them to his site for DVD's that cost pennies he charges big bucks for. I argued with a guy recently about this who said I was all wrong so he ordered the discs he's waitin' on them been about 2 weeks now- cmon this ain't 1968, mail's pretty damn fast now. maybe ole Ted sent 'em book rate, make every penny he can lord knows that FBI pension can't be more than $50k a year poor guy

[demolishionhammer]

@batvette not any more as of today he is dead died of what they say is cancer i think they killed him exposing him to something that gave him cancer aaron russo also died of cancer  and they were trying to expose corruption

[batvette]

@demolishionhammer well I can't agree with you that he was exposing corruption, the opposing theory is that he was attaching satanic cults to conspiracies to help cover for their real perps. However I am not without compassion and I heard a recent talkshoe interview Tammy and Jeremy had with him and I had to admit he was a friendly and downright charming fellow. I'd have like to have met him. However as Aquino said, find them, identify them and arrest them. Funny he never bothered with that. RIP

[batvette]

a sincere man with a good reputation... who accused Art Bell of being a pedophile, Art sued him and won.

All you fundies who believe there are Satanic cults everywhere, go drink the jesus kool aid. Most satanists I have heard of only state satanism is their faith to piss off the persecution by fundies. This is a joke.

Ted Gunderson is a conspiracy theorist, look at his site. All kinds of whacko shit.

[MrDuffy81]

@batvette LISTEN TO RUSS DIZDAR.

SATANIC CULTS HAVE BEEN GROWING SINCE THE 60s.

LISTEN...SHHHHH...LISTEN...

He worked with the police and FBI on satanic crimes. IT IS REAL MOTHER FUCKER. RUSS DIZDAR...

[batvette]

@MrDuffy81 According to "the Ted Gunderson Files" which you can find linked to on his own site, Ted believes 2000 children are kidnapped in America each day to be auctioned off as sex slaves, used in human sacrifices, or given to reptilian aliens living underground for their body parts. I shit you not.

That's just silly.

Just because you can point to one satanist here or there and you can find a murder or two with hints of occult activity, does not mean there is a vast satanic conspiracy.

[MrDuffy81]

@batvette LOL.  You are silly. You have A LOT of learning to do. Reptilians are a real phenomenon. You have NO IDEA what technology the military has gotten from alien interaction. It is WAY MORE than UFOs. Medical and scientific advancements are so far gone, they can remove a soul from a body and re implant a demonic soul into the body. DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES...Look up THOMAS CASTELLO.

Read Richard Branson's book: SECRETS OF THE MOJAVE

[batvette]

@MrDuffy81 I think that reply stands as its own rebuttal, however don't assume someone else not sharing your fringe beliefs amounts to ignorance. This is a common theme amongst conspiracy theorists, that their bizarre belief set amounts to higher knowledge and nonbelievers just need to "learn".

I don't think it's a koinkydink that the acronym for deep underground military bases is D.U.M.B..  Someone's having a good laugh playing you conspiracy theorists for fools. Have a nice, wacky day!

[MrDuffy81]

@ I don't automatically think that someone not sharing my beliefs is ignorant, until they show me that they choose to ignore what it is that I am trying to show them; THEN they are ignorant, so, yes, you seem to be aware of some of this but in dismissal rather than acknowledge the victims and people with the testimonies and experiences.

You are a psychopath. You let your beliefs distate logic instead of vice versa. Look up David Morris for more insight into your diagnosis, sick minded one.

[tlthe5th]

@MrDuffy81 i dont appreciate these bizarre attacks on people commenting my video MrDuffy81. I don't believe most of these testimonies you speak of myself. i have exposed gunderson as a shill on my web site. him and john decamp. maybe your one of their little internet spooks.

[tlthe5th]

@tlthe5th i dont like the profanity either. you're talking about satanism and then satan is speaking right through you...

[MrDuffy81]

@batvette No one is a conspiracy theorist, you rhetorical moron.

The way in which you group people all together and dismiss them as "conspiracy theorists" is no different than a skin head calling all black people niggers.

You would NEVER EVER EVER have came up with that term if the TV didn't give it to you.

WE AMERICANS who are interested in knowing the truth behind the lies given to us by our "representative" governments. WE STUDY FACTS AND SEE TREASON BY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS!

[batvette]

@MrDuffy81 Oh I believe our government is a lot of things, the least of which is "for the people"- that is a long way from promoting what I said, that Gunderson claims 2000 children are kidnapped daily to be auctioned off by satanic cults for sexual slavery and sacrifices and for reptilian aliens to use their body parts. That is the talk of conspiracy theorists, you took the position so thus accept the label. It's very telling you have to lash out in ad hominem attacks when I have not done so.

[MrDuffy81]

@batvette I have been researching the reptilians and satanism for 11 years, now. It is no coincidence that the "serpent" in the garden of eden parable is akin to a reptile...

The story of cain and able is a tale of 2 blood lines. One of satan, or the serpent, and one of man, as Adam.

We all have a part of our brain known to science as the reptilian mind. It is the part of the mind we get the fight or flight, and many basic animalistic instinctual behaviors from...

Gotta read Branson!

[Borakimo]

@batvette Satanism is in your own house if you are not walking with Jesus. The cult-type is practiced under different names and in different secret societies.

[joshanator1]

All I've got to say is, "How many people have been killed in the name of god?"

[MrDuffy81]

HEY! Is it just me, or is Geraldo doing a Phil Donahue impression.

Pretty good one, too. I like Phil Hartman's Donhaue impression from SNL. CLASSIC!

[tlthe5th]

@ScottishNonBeliever you're obviously gullible. i know, an ex fbi chief you can trust right? hahaha him along with decamp who studied to be a catholic priest and was an aid to cia agent william colby who later became director of the cia. colby's dead now btw.. do you do any research or use critical thinking or do you just swallow everything you're told hook line and sinker?

[Siva3Enthroned]

There're no supposed Satanic crimes happening because whenever a Satanic crime is committed it's deemed a result of "psychosis" etc with or without the evidence for such a claim. The law doesn't acknowledge Satan or even Satanists, and that is reflected in the way it's carried out.

[IAMONEELEVEN]

On the right where the suggestions are... At top 'Brazil Butt Lift'.. Boy they know their market. I know when I'm watching old Geraldo videos about Satanism, it makes me want to work out and drop a load. DROPPIN LOOOOOADS!

[IAMONEELEVEN]

I know this is going to sound funny... But youtube: jonathan adampants. He shows subliminals in advertising... Explains mind control, nuero linguistic programmiing, satanism, and satanism in the christian churches... ANd really breaks it down for you. Too bad he's not ar5ound anymore.. All the good ones seem to disapear. Wonder why.

[lumeriam]

it IS the cops, it IS the government & CIA-FBI, it IS our Court officials! Who then to investigate and prosecute?

[exeuroweenie]

Rivera seems panicked-envious-that satanic pedophile murders might outsleaze him.

[IAMONEELEVEN]

@exeuroweenie haha

[WTU208]

hey - tlthe5th. I cannot access your chanel message says 'channel unavailable' not suspended or closed, I have never seen this message on any other channel.

[freqazoidiac]

Nick Bryant, and Alicia Owens appeared on the Gary Null show today (june 9 2009), talking about the Franklin scandal. Check it out. You can find the archive on Progressive Radio Network, Gary null show , it is 40 minutes into the first Show.

[gr8american]

this old guy is speaking the truth but they are making him look like a crazy person on this show, FUCK THE MEDIA

[freqazoidiac]

Great videos. THought provoking !

What do you think of the video by Anonymous truther called "NWO Shills, Liars & Deceivers 1.0" They state in a text overlay, "They no longer believe A.Jones to be a Schill!!) what's up with that? Lawsuit? or suitable payment injected?

[antiazazel]

You cant believe a liar and deciever like satan, or you must be realy a moron without abillity to reason properly or at all. The satan guy in the clip is a liar and obviously untrustworthy. Why choose the losing side when the eventual outcome is well known and predetermined. Do these morons actually think hell to be paradise? or are they guileable enough to believe azazels lies?

[JeremyATX]

the government wont get involved in it because their part of it

[usmann777]

America the land of hateful creatures

[jeffpace60]

@usmann777 No more or no less than anywhere else, I'd say.

Geraldo & Aquino were definitely hateful creatures in "their day," but the rhetoric of MSLSD's talking heads for just 1 example makes most media hatemongering from those DAYS look classy!

[usmann777]

@jeffpace60

[jeffpace60]

@usmann777 For some reason the body of your reply didn't post here. I'm going to look at some of the other vids & things you've gathered, but these are so old I'd almost forgotten about them.

[ronaldosronaldos]

@usmann777

Yeah generalizations like that don't make you look like a bigot.

[RodanX21]

Aquino says "Why don't you name these people and arrest them" LOL , With senators, judges, police, lawyers all under the umbrella of satanic oaths how will you ever get a conviction? This show is old news. Satanism is being pushed into the mainstream now as the new "anti-religion" or masked as atheism. Anger towards anything Godly is the new fad. Soon sacrificing babies for the sake of mother earth may even become popular demand. DON'T THINK IT CAN HAPPEN? Visit an abortion clinic.

[accursedheretic]

@RodanX21

What? Since WHEN does atheism equal satanism? If someone was a Luciferian or a satanist they would be just as religious as any other fool who worships some false idol. New fad? How about COMMON SENSE. It's about time people woke up and stopped using the OPIATE OF THE MASSES to hope YHWH will come and save their SORRY ASSES. Bunch of do nothing pansies who will believe a child's tale. Keep waiting for your savior, whomever it may be. I wouldn't hold your breath. Abortion = YES!!

[Bloodsport1]

@accursedheretic because its taking away from Christ. If someone is a atheist they're not believing in Christ or having grace in God. Atheist are nice people and no different from others but not believing in Christ is very dangerous and serious.

[Bloodsport1]

@RodanX21 Satanism is the new "Im a free thinker. I think for myself. I believe in me. That's cool but the problem is they never give props to Christ. Thus, its the new atheism and people does have anger toward God or anything religious.

[unshutoptic1]

@Bloodsport1 ....I heard that....(well I read it)

[MrDuffy81]

@RodanX21 Aquino is in the NSA, now. His satanists are YouTube shills on the government payroll.

I have been calling them out and they don't say SHIT. I have started to be cyber harassed, tho. Someone has hacked my yahoo account associated with my YT account and reading my e mails. SWEAR TO GOD.

[lmollot]

@RodanX21 religions cause abortions,war,marital rape, and are the richest pimpson earth-thats why they want no competition from street pimps- religious boystown is STILL open for VERY RICH business and its head is a father child-rapists- religious walk and batter anybody in the way of their MONEY and total sadistic (yes including bloodsacrifices) in their OWN church by THEIR OWN PRIESTS-start obey the bible-judge not lest---/and do unto others-orphanages are full of kids from priests raping14yo

[Easydollars]

I believe Ted speaks the Truth . Just look at Geraldo's show. Hes a paid media jerk trained to discredit Ted and make it look like its not worth making further investigations into Satanism.

[borceroy]

I agree, Geraldo is just a high paid clown with moustache.

[Gwyka]

Gunderson is conspiracy nut who has been making outrageous claims for years. How everyone keeps a straight face listening to him is amazing.

[billyguns2]

And for what government agency do you work..?

[Gwyka]

Look what working for the Government did to Ted! Accusing George HW Bush of being a satanic child molester and shilling for a bogus cure for Down's Syndrome.

[goykala]

@Gwyka

the programing is strong with this 1

[shamannofthedead]

@Gwyka your the biggest retard ive possibly ever seen post on a video thanks you for that so next time i say that to some1 i can think of you and correct myself because i dont want to mis inform people like you.

[shamgarus2]

It's pretty obvious there is just one big cover up of these type of activites. Of course people involved with these things aren't going to admit it.

[Ciaresayton]

He should have had Lawrence E. King sing the national anthem with the Boys Town Choir.

[Ciaresayton]

Lt Col David Aqiono top level cia mind control agent, also worked for the fbi, branched his version of satanism away from the real church of satan because he wanted to use it as another front for the cia.

And then Ted Gunderson, whom I would trust with my own children, is on the other side of the couch spilling his guts.

Lawrence E King, who sang the nat anthem twice at republic convents convicted on 15 mill doll fraud-he pimped out kids from boys town- fed invest. gary caradori murdered-BUSH

[Ciaresayton]

There was so much coming to light, at this time, with activities being orchestrated by George Herbert Walker "poppy" Bush. I am not referring to his bank deregulation/cia, fannie freddie/fed, or iran-contra/coke, but his parties he was hosting in Wahington, which apparently were attended by little boys who played in the White House after midnight (CBS<ABC<NBC NEWS).

So they had to put it out there, and make it seem so absurd, the pressure would back off.

[ed11561]

And all that shit AND NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE ABOUT ANY OF IT.

[AndrewKH85]

geraldo is medais version george w bush. he almost blows the illuminatis cover with stupidity all the time

[fena1966]

All TV.... is trash even the good stuff!

[Magus71]

"Trash T.V." sure is entertaining!

[Dashelswolf]

Satanic Panic! Leave it to Geraldo to jump on the band wagon. He's not a credible journalist. We learned that when he was ousted from Iraq for revealing our soldiers location on air live.

Gullible!

[tenthousandyearsgoon]

Geraldo is nonsense but this subject is real and very serious.

[JayPC21]

My final point would be that different societies and people have different cultures. I'm guessing you are not Latin American? or have you ever been to Latin America? A large majority of the population of Latin America are Catholic, whether they are lapsed or not. Some may have been baptised at birth but never really went to Church. The point is it is more part of the fabric of society than other places. And therefore they have a different understanding to what it means to be Catholic than u do.

[TRUTHEXPANDING]

Quite obviously they have no understanding if after all that they've heard about the Catholic Priests, they still call themselves Catholics. Geez that makes so much sense now. Sheesh.

[JayPC21]

*yawn* you still don't seem to get it...

Yeah they still call themselves Catholics, because thats what they were born into!!! Just because some peadophiles happen to infiltrate the Catholic Church and become priests does not mean that other people who are born into it are somehow directly responsible for what they do! Don't you see that its two totally seperate things I'm talking about. The genuine Catholics, who live normal lives, and the peadophiles who call thememselves 'Catholics' ...

[JayPC21]

And I'm afraid that I can tell by your sweeping generalisations, and narrowminded comments that it is YOU that has no understanding of this topic. Also the fact the you don't seem to understand what makes some one Catholic or not, clearly shows me that you are out of your depth and are confused by the whole thing. My advice to you would be don't beleive all the hype and 'all religion is evil' bullshit that is so popular these days. The world is not so easy to sum up as that...peace.

[TRUTHEXPANDING]

Ah yeah okay. If you say so.

[bellyoffire]

satanist ted gunderson on one side, satanist aquino on the other side. what a show.

[ccf1971]

Ted Gunderson spoke at an American Free Press event at 2006.

[EGITAYE]

lol the Satanist denies that Satan is in the Bible!

[jofo817]

obviously, Aquino is a liar and deceiver

[LokiTeslar2012]

they all are thats the point

[ccf1971]

They want you to think that there is an occult group behind this stuff, and they want you to think that the Jews are behind it.

[rachaelegy]

for reasons that i don't quite understand many ppl love and respect the pope or think that catholic is actually christian. its hard enough to get ppl to believe that the "satanic panic" isn't all just hype. sometimes u have to start with one thing at a time, or else ppl will automatically dismiss the entire subject completely. especially when it comes to their religious beliefs.

[rachaelegy]

i don't understand what ur trying 2 say with this video?! r u saying that aquino is not a phony, but gunderson is?

[tlthe5th]

they're all double and triple agents.

[rachaelegy]

what do u think gunderson's motive really is then?

[tlthe5th]

his motive is revealed on this show. He hid the vatican and pretended there were other entities we should be concerned with. since then about 5000 priests have been implicated in child pedophilia. wheres all the satanist gangs? wow they got a way with it. they're more covert and powerful than Rome even. i'm being sarcastic. also to be honest i'm just about to fall asleep and i probably shouldn't be answering this :)

[rachaelegy]

the upper levels of the chatholic church (vatican)are satanist, or worship lucifer i should say. i thought that the two subjects pretty much went hand and hand.

[tlthe5th]

now i remember. this video was just used as a reference. i just wanted to clip this together. here's what i wrote when i first uploaded it. its the first comment on this video.

"This video was done for the purpose of reference. It's important to view this video along with the rest of the information in the description."

[Fallinldols]

@tlthe5th are you simply just a fucking moron? have you done any reasearch on michael aquino? He has been accused of running a pedophilia ring in the army. And no you weren't kind you were being damned serious. They ARE MORE covert than ANYTHING you've imagined senators supreme court justices presidents YOU FUCKING NAME IT,ITS HAPPENED. and Ted is a fucking hero for speaking out against this.

[Brett32324]

@tlthe5th Ted doesnt protect the vatican nor catholics he even talked a lot about cases brought against catholic churches back in the 80s some of the first cases ever. hes just focused primarily on satanism Here in the USA where the Kidnap children and use them for rituals. Thats what we need to unite against...

[ccf1971]

They want to sway public opinion against certain religious groups. When they find a group they don't like, they want to be able to go in and destroy with the public on their side.

Pay attention to what Geraldo says about 6:33.

[rachaelegy]

i replayed the vid to listen to what geraldo says about 6:33. i don't understand what u're trying 2 say. he was talking about the temple set. r u trying 2 say that he's trying 2 sway ppl against the temple of set? i believe that aquino IS A CHILD MOLESTER, and the fact that he is so high up in the millitary only protects him. he is deeply involved in gov mind control and written papers about it. i think geraldo is a fraud too. this whole thing he did in the 80s about satanists was to discredit

[ccf1971]

They want to get people paranoid against what they consider "cults", so that they can destroy them when they want to. This is what they are doing to Tony Alamo in Arkansas.

[bn2jesus2]

Interesting. Here you have a Catholic priest represented as the "good" side against Aquino who is a Lt. Col. in Army intelligence and an open Satanist. Revelation decribes Rome as the Beast which killed/sacrificed 50 million Protestants! Rivera also says: "it [Satanism] seems particulary strong...in the 'so-called' Bible Belt, among Fundamentalist Christians..." Catholicism is being acknowledged as good while born again "Fundamentalists" are not consulted but aligned with cults/offshoots. ??

[DurAR89]

It sounded like Gunderson didn't want to name the people doing it because high level politicians could be involved, that's what it sounds like. GG +5

[tlthe5th]

Ted Gunderson is in on it just as much as anyone. where are all his arrests from all his "investigations"? If he's so respected, surely he could have put together enough evidence to convict these people. So he's just a show. An agent himself. I put together a lot of info on him ion my web page. you can find the link in the description of this video.

[JayPC21]

Hmmm, Ive watched several Ted Gunderson videos, and several other videos about the illuminati, conspiracies, NWO, religion, etc. Ive also looked at ur website that u have links to and I have to say that while it is common knowledge (among researchers and people who are even vaguely familar with the subject matter) that Christianity and indeed the Roman Catholic Church in particular has benn infltrated and corrupted with the illuminati/satanists, it is also common knowledge that there are many

[JayPC21]

genuine, good honest practicing Christians and Catholics. I respect the amount of research and effort that u put into ur work and videos, however i have to say that this emphasis on how much the Catholic church are behind everything does distort the truth somewhat. The most important point of all this is that the Catholic Church is simply one of the many organisations (albeit an extremely powerful organisation) which the illuminati use. However it

[JayPC21]

is imporatant to point out that it is within the heirerchy and and powerful elite of the Catholic Church that the corrupt elements reside. Peoples interpretation of what makes somebody "Catholic" or not must also be addressed. For example a large majority of the hard working and impoverished population of Latin America would consider themselves "Catholic" (whether they are lapsed or not) yet they are not direct or knowling participants in evil illuminati activities.

[JayPC21]

Getting back to the video, if ur grounds for accusing Gunderson as a double/triple agent or "being on the same side as aquino" is that he omits sufficiant mention of the Catholic Churches involvement, I would like to suggest that this is not so much a "white wash" or an attempt to hide some deep secret or protect the Church, but more to focus the attention on the REAL perpatrators and instigators of these activities who are not the genuine, honest hard working practicing Catholics

[JayPC21]

Christians and any other peaceful, genuine religious people, who actually try and live by a moral code and do not have a hidden agenda. (yes believe it or not, they do exist! its just that they live their lives quietly and u never hear about them) Gunderson has exposed so much and at such a detailed level of who are truly behind the abductions, abuse and how they are protected by the authorities. It is clear that these people are not really true Catholics, but ARE clearly, true satanists.

[TRUTHEXPANDING]

Of course they are direct participants. Once you see the many corruptions and many rapes of little boys that have gone on in the Catholic Church and the cover ups that ensues. How in heavens name could you ever go back to Church and support such an insitution? Of course it is the congregation that allows this misery to continue. No ifs and or buts about it!

[JayPC21]

I'm sorry but you obviously misunderstand what I'm saying. I have close family relatives who were abused at a young age by Catholic priests, so believe me I understand fully the extent of the situation. However what people like yourself don't seem to understnd is that many people beleive in God and the basic teachings of the New Testament and Jesus Christ. That is what they support. Not nesesarily the institution and corrupt clergy itself.

[JayPC21]

You can still be a Catholic but never go to Church. Also, not ALL priests are peadophiles. And if its the cover ups of peadophile rings that you are talking about then Government officials, the police, and judges, and the wealthy businessmen who pay for the child sex slave industry are surely more to blame for the 'cover ups' and their direct involvement and knowledge of what is going on. Not some old abuelita in Ecuador who inocently says her prayers to Dios in good faith.

[TRUTHEXPANDING]

The moment you say you are Catholic or anything else for that matter, you immediately show your allegiance to that institution. Indeed it is with the complicity of gov officials, police, judges et al that all this is perpetuated. So again. It is the people who pray to a god furnished to them by these institutions that bear responsibility. See: The Creator Part 1 of 5: It certainly is an eye opener. But alas, to each his own.

[JayPC21]

LOL at "immediatly showing allegiance to that institution" cant people think independantly then and form their own views and opinions?? many Catholics are baptised, therfore become Catholic when they are tiny babies, barely a few weeks old. How can they possibly have any understanding about 'showing allegiance' to anyhting?? And I'm afraid YOU are the person who is confused here and needs his eyes opened. 'a god furnished to them by these institutions' LOL the God that I'm talking about was

[JayPC21]

'furnished' as you put it, by Jesus. Not 'institutions'. Get you facts right mate. The 'institutions' were built around his teachings, and became corrupted. Not the other way round. The ideology of discrediting all religious views is something that is being pushed by the satanic/luciferian illmunati that wish to break down all belief systems and confuse easily led and ignorant people like yourself. The world is much more complex than you could ever imagine... open YOUR eyes sunshine...

[TRUTHEXPANDING]

Ah - Yeah - Okay.

[Borakimo]

@TRUTHEXPANDING You are so confused you don't know what you are talking about. Wake up.

[JayPC21]

I think you misunderstand and confuse the issue here. Of course the actions of any corrupt person are to be condemed. But to give you an example, there are pedophile policeman. But you would still call the police if you had your house burgaled wouldnt you? My point is you need to seperate the corrupt elements of something from what it is corrupting and using for cover. There are two seperate things.

[xsgtusmc]

Geraldo, what a moron! Gunderson knows the truth about these things. Aquino is a pedopile and is used in mind control by the govt. He is a lt. col. in army intelligence located in sf cal. He should be tried and shot. He is a devil worshipping traitor!

[tlthe5th]

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