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  • Peter Griffin??

    

  • @iFleenor5 were were

  • @iFleenor5 more like fred stoller

  • Thanks for this video Rich. I appreciate it. There are a couple like it but most don't explain as well as yours and gimme confidence it's correct.

    What do you think about (a) making the jar/bottle air tight versus having a second hole in top to let air pressure escape? Needed or not? and (b) raising the jar/bottle above the level of the caliper for purpose of gravity helping air bubbles rise?

    Thanks again Rich.

  • @LookieLoudLou I think a small pin hole in the cover good.I will try positioning the jar higher next time i use it and see if there is a difference.

  • A+ demonstration. I have to do this to my car shortly, now i know what to do.

  • what size hose should we get? rubber or clear vinyl? thanks

  • @ciaconne I believe i used 3/16 clear then a coupler then rubber at the end for the bleeder.

  • This video came in handy just when the brakes went out on my park avenue.

  • I'm confused, using this method, when you release the break pedal, shouldn't break fluid/air get sucked back in because the hose is submerged in the liquid in the jar?

  • @BriansProjects Yes some of the pedal stroke it will get sucked back when you release the pedal and some will not.Eventually all the air will get pushed out.

  • your method is brilliant,thank you

  • i found this video hard to masturbate to

  • rinse and repeat. This is the same... You may have to repeat this step a few times to flush out all of the air. PLUS, please fill the bottom of the jar with CLEAN brake fluid and a CLEAN jar so that you are not wasting brake fluid and you can put it right back into the master cylinder...

  • Missing some stuff in this video... In the cap of the jar, there needs to be a vent line for air to ESCAPE... If you do not do this, you may blow the jar apart, spit the line off of the bleed nipple and put more air into your system... The object is to REMOVE air from your hydraulic system because that's what causes your brake pedal to feel spongy.... Also, you MUST make sure that your master cyclinder is FULL before beginning this. Just like washing hair, many times you must

  • what size box wrench to open the bleeder valve

  • Hey richpin06 is this method safe on any old cars and 2000's cars because a friend of mine said that you need 2 persons for this because if you do it the way

    you are supposse it gets air trapped in the brakes?

  • @Turbodieselracer I have been using this technique for a long time with no problems that being said please use the two person method if you feel uncomfortable using this method.

  • what size tube would you recommend to buy to bleed brakes?

  • @nico27004 3/16 works pretty good.

  • hi

    can the fluid be reused?

  • @dawood1351 Not a good idea because of the commandants in the fluid.

  • @richpin06a should you just press down the pedal and hold it or keep pumping it?

    and also want to know, should the fluid filler cup be removed while bledding the fluid or doesn't matter?

  • @dawood1351 Just press down steady and leave the cap on the master cylinder.

  • Great video - and it works fine. I like DIY videos where people get inventive creating tools for next to nothing. Some of the questions & criticisms I'm seeing here give me the impression some folks don't fully understand the details of bleeding brakes & should probably read up on the topic and watch it done so you can see the details of the system. (Such as: It doesn't suck back up as much fluid as is expelled when you pump the brakes which is why old fluid doesn't end up back in the system.)

  • @cedartree696 I agree with you.

  • Thank you very much for the information.

  • amezing video sir, clear explanation i just made the tool and ready for tomorrow to bleed my truck cause the pedal is all the way down when u press on it, i hope thats it just the bleed out.

  • Does this have a one way check valve involved? Commercial ones use one, and it looks like the adapter between the clear and black hose is that item. Is this so?

  • @macclad3 No i am not using a one way check valve.The adapter you see is only for installing the short rubber hose to the plastic tubing.

  • My pleasure.

  • Very good Rich. I tried this method and it worked well and there is no waste of oil. You can recycle the same oil to top up the reservoir. Now as for people asking why air is not sucked up, the pipe is submerged in the oil and so when the air is out of the system the only thing that gets sucked up is the oil. That is why you used greece(spells?) to seal the bleed valve screw.

  • @korish57 Thank you for helping to explain the principal behind the bleeder.

  • @korish57- I strongly suggest not to reuse old brake oil. Brake oil is a desiccant meaning it absorbs water lowering its boiling point which will cause it to create air bubbles in the brake lines as the brakes heat up boils the oil within the calipers. This is why it says on the reservoir caps to use an unopened bottle as open bottle will naturally suck moisture from the air when sitting on your shelf. Would you reuse the old motor oil out of your engine after replacing the filter? Same here.

  • Thanks Rich I will try it.

  • ur accent is stupid. what is a bleeda? lol

  • I still so a clear answer to what prevents it from sucking air when the peddle returns. How is gravity going to prevent this? It is not stated how the air is prevented. U need some kinda one way check valve.

  • @reallylongnickname The fluid is the check valve,air is passed into the fluid and bubbles to the top of the jar and can not return back up the line when the pedal is returned.

  • @richpin06a Understood. Thx for the reply.

  • @richpin06a

    I don't get it, when the pedal returns, isn't it sucking up oil from the jar? Then, when you depress the brakes again, it would spit out what you just sucked up???? Can you explain why not?

  • @platinumgv Yes it will pull back fluid when you release the brake but the air is being forced through the lines to the jar every time you press on the brake pedal and that is what we are after here.

  • @richpin06a

    Right, so when it does pull back fluid, isn't the "pulled back" fluid also pushing the air further back into the lines? Do you see what I mean? I want to do it this way but its not making any sense. Thank you for the quick reply btw.

  • @platinumgv Try it i think you will be pleasantly surprised how well it works.

  • @richpin06a

    I tried it this way and I'm still getting a mushy pedal with not so good braking. To make a long story short, I changed front calipers. Bled using the 2-man method (only the front calipers since the back brakes are on different lines) with the engine running. Took it for a test drive. Result = Very mushy. Rebled using this 1- man method with engine off (was told not to have it running). Test drive = still mushy but better. Bled back and front, result sill mushy. Is air in ABS?

  • @richpin06a

    Should I have the engine running or not? I asked some mechanic that stops by at my job and he said to not pump the brakes and to just press brake pedal and open bleeder - close bleeder and release brake. I haven't tried it yet.

  • @platinumgv Engine not running and do not pump the brakes.There has to be air in there somewhere.

  • I still so a clear answer to what prevents it from sucking air when the peddle returns. How is gravity going to prevent this? It is not stated how the air is prevented.

  • Very ingenious method for one man bleeding. I like it!

  • In school I was shown to step on the pedal as you open the bleeder. I guess if you don't have help this way works.

  • @i8s0o0 Exactly i am always alone so it is the only way for me.

  • Fuck that for a lark.Just invest in a sealey vacuum bleeder it sure beats the shit out of fucking about pumping pedals!

  • @thanxx You like seeing dirty words on the screen don't you, Is that because you want everyone to think that you are cool. I bet your Mother is so proud of her son. I see an inferiority complex, a need to feel important.  Clean up your act or continue to be a loser --- the choice is your's.

  • @gregw98 I see it differently. Who are you to judge a person to the extent of calling them a "loser" or presuming to know how their mother feels about them, based on a YouTube comment? Words are just words. It's concepts that should offend, not words. I've known people who freak out if the word "fuck" is used around their kids--who then turn around and (I'm not joking) let their toddlers watch Freddy Krueger movies and let the kids behave violently toward other people. Idiots, all.

  • @richpin06a

    I've used this same technique for many years. Good Video!

    ProjectCarTV

  • Natty ice

  • I understand when you push the break the break fluid is forced into the container but, when the break peddle returns back up, doesn't it suck the old break fluid back into the line? What prevents the old fluid from being sucked back up into the line from the container?

  • @moofushu If it did not suck fluid it would suck air and that would defeat bleeding the brakes.

  • @richpin06a This does no good if you want new brake fluid in the line too does it?

  • @Skaguir If you keep bleeding you will eventually have new fluid in the system

  • @moofushu The purpose of this is to get the air out of your lines (bleed them), not to get new fluid in the system. When you press the pedal, fluid, mixed with air comes out into the jar. The air bubbles rise to the top. When you release the pedal, fluid, without the air returns back into your system. If you are trying to charge your lines because you've put in new lines, there are a few more steps than shown here.

  • @moofushu break is spelled brake in these terms.

  • @moofushu it suck it from the brake fluid resorve located under the hood. gravity prevent it from sucking the old brake fluid. and the new brake fluid comes down.

  • I was actually a mechanic at one time and had used various methods to bleed my customers brakes: power bleeders, vacuum devices, and the buddy system...don't get me wrong but they work great. This idea is simply the best do it yourselfer idea that I have ever used! I used a plastic soda bottle, drilled the cap to fit a clear plastic tube down to the bottom, filled it with clean brake fluid to about one inch, and proceeded as per instructions. Job done in a few minutes. Thanks so much!

  •  does the lid need to have a breather hole or not..

  • @jayjaydeal Yes it should have a pin hole.

  • what sized jar is best for this system

  • @jayjaydeal A 1 Qt jar is a pretty good size

  • Great Job Tnx

  • It would be nice to be able to see the jar a bit better to see what's going on with it.

  • what about abs brakes

  • Ray Romano really knows his brakes!

  • @dancingmop Yes he does

  • @dancingmop HAHAHAHA... Good call

  • @dancingmop OMG LMFAO I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME THING

  • @dancingmop Nice.

  • must you do this to all brakes/ tires

  • @baller908790 Only were you suspect there is air you do.

  • this was very helpful thank you!

  • FEEL THE RAIN ON YOUR SKIN

  • The grease on the bleed screw is a great idea! Also the brake fluid comes out better from the container if you take the cap off. haha

  • @madisonelectronic Don't know that I'd want to put grease on the fitting and take the risk that it would get in the line and contaminate the brake fluid.

  • @mjkanejd Yeah, why not clean the area and use silicone sealant instead of grease?. It's thicker and won't get sucked in. But really... there is very little negative pressure built here - so the grease is fine - but I like the idea of leaving a sealant to protect the threads from rusting. If you've ever broken one of these suckers off... you'll invent new cursewords - or at least interesting combinations of existing ones...

  • Is it possible that the grease could get sucked in ? Would that not be disastrous?

    Also, I have no covers on my bleeders. Is that really bad...does that mean dirt could have gotten in there? Should I therefore flush my lines first of all? I think I have always heard that the break fluid should be extremely pure, but I don't know why. Why?

  • @ICUC007 I'll try and answer both of your Q's here..grease on the threads won't be sucked into the lines..fluid only enters/leaves thru the opening of the nipple. brake fluid has the abilty to absorb water in from the air. When mixed with brake fluid air/h2o becomes a caustic agent that will rot your brake lines and cause them to leak. Ideally , you want clean new fluid, completely flushing your lines doesn't take as much as you would think. If done correctly you can change it with a quart jug.

  • may I suggest that a one man kit which doesn't even require for the hose to be immersed in fluid, can be purchased in Australia for max 10 bucks. Worth the expense.

    Tool King sells them for 6 bucks on their site. I'm sure you'll find them for sale in USA as well.

    Thanx for the clip.

  • @theredrooter Yes, a tool well worth having.

  • great tool and video you got there, and dont worry guys that jar wont blow up on your face because the air going to the jar will pump the fluid back in to the bleeder, thats why is better if you keep the jar air tight,  THANKS FOR THE VIDEO, IT HELPED ME A LOT.

  • @alex01978 well that doesn't seem good if the fluid would go back into the bleeder...then you would be getting dirty fluid in your lines, right? unless you were to have totally drained your lines and flushed them clean...right? and you'd have to do ALOT of flushing to get the lines REALLY clean. Your break fluid is supposed to be perfectly clean, right ?

  • Ok 2 questions...How are you suppose to know when clean brake fluid finally gets to one of the brakes while doing this if all you see is dirty brake fluid in the jar?

    Second WHY in the world didn't you say anything about MAKING SURE you're keeping the brake fluid reservoir full at ALL TIMES so it doesn't go empty while you're pumping the brake therefore letting AIR into your brake line? It's VERY VERY important not to let air into the brake line by keeping it full or you'll be going in circles.

  • Some of you folks should be taking your car to the shop!!!

  • @royalwapiti your correct but most people cant afford to take the car to a mechanic so simple things like this is okay to learn to do yourself , providing you watch and learn to make sure you do it correctly .i dont trust mechanics most of the time they do it wrong them self , lol sometimes when i take my car i stay the whole day and watch every move they do ,i sometime caught them out and told them hang on there mate it needs more oil its not even upto the minimum level line for fucks sake LOL

  • If you do not drill a "pressure relief hole" in the top of the lid, you will create a cylinder and blow the jar apart

  • ho riplace back breaks

  • Nice one,its helps a lot..

  • Very good video thank you for taking the time to make it . A++ great idea using the jar and brake line .

  • thanks ,nice and simple

  • Rich let me see if I got this right.

    Simply submerging the end of a clear bleeder hose "underwater" in a jar of brake fluid and then cracking the bleeder open I can now pump the pedal in and out solo to expell air but at the same time not suck any back in?

    1. So an air tight lid on the catch jar is not required?

    2. Would having the bleeder hose curve up and catch jar above the caliper work better since air wants to go up?

    3. Wouldn't teflon tape on threads work better than grease?

  • @TranceScene 1.You want a small pin hole in the lid.2.not sure.3.I will try it.

  • @TranceScene

    1 an air tight lid would cause the hydraulic fluid to compress the air inside the jar, which would then force dirty fluid back into the system when the pedal is released.

    2 curving the hose above the caliper has no effect because all the air in the system, including the bleeder hose, is forced out by fluid if the procedure is performed correctly.

    3 brake fluid eats teflon tape and would cause the bleeder valve to leak

  • Great video for the DIY person like myself. You did a good job of showing us step by step method to get the job done right. Sometimes an expert will assume a person should know the obvious but the way you put this video together ensured the person who is going to try this procedure is ready and will get the job done right. Congratulations on a job well done!

  • there are 2 problems though:

    - when you connect the hose, you got air in the hose down to the brake fluid in the jar. When you first open the bleeder screw and push the brake pedal to the floor, mostly air will come out and the column of air in the hose will be almost intact and then will be sucked back when releasing the pedal... a.s.o.

    - I doubt that no air will be sucked back around the head of the bleeder screw

    better try fitting a 1-way valve on the hose at the bleeder screw end.

  • Thanks for the video. I've bled brakes a few times and it's always a dirty job. I am a bit confused with your method however. I understand the basic concept of course. You fill the jar up past the hose with fluid so air doesn't get sucked back in. What I don't get is how as you pump the brake with your hand multiple times without closing off the bleeder you're not just sucking fluid back into the line, then pushing fluid back out, then sucking fluid back in the line in an endless cycle?

  • @richpin06a

    here are my questions to clear things up:

    1) did you use a piece of brake line just because it goes all the way down to the bottom jar and stays straight ?

    2) is it mandatory to have an airtight solder and lid ?

    3) why did you use a glass jar and not a plastic bottle ? are there any disadvantages by using a plastic bottle and a plastic hose all the way down as long as the end of the hose is submerged into brake fluid ?

  • @masster64 1.Yes 2.No 3.I used a glass jar because it was what i had at the time and i could solder the brake line to the cover.

  • @masster64 no u just need a tube that under water "brake fluid" so that the pressure from the water is to heavy to let air get pulled in .....

  • Do you do this with the car on or off?

  • @rocket27 off

  • @rocket27 hahaha!!! nice... i say you should just take it down to a shop if you have to ask

  • Darn - I knew I missed something. I didn't put the grease on the bleeder, and I am sure this is why I continue to get air. The only thing about this method that is tough is in my case anyways, I had to keep checking the fluid in my master cylinder because I had tons of air, and needed to bleed a lot out.

    Again, thanks for the great video.

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  • This tip worked great! I bled my brakes by myself. After watching this video, it was very easy to do. Thanks, richpin06a!

  • Very nice tutorial. Whicked smart. I really like the idea of soldering the brake line into the cover. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.

    BTW - I threw the "whicked" in there for a fellow Boston area native. Your accent gives you away.

  • This is great, thankyou. Gave me confidence to try changing my brake fluid tomorrow. It's a Porsche 993 with 2 bleeders on each caliper. The fluid hasn't been changed for 4 years. Wish me luck!

  • @TheWhupper Take your time freeing up the bleeder screws and you should have no trouble.

  • @richpin06a

    shiiitttt.Im no professional but what are the two bolt/screws that hold in the caliper.

    I have a 2001 es 300(lexus) and it seems like either I dont have good leverage or that baby is rusted.

    maybe both.Is it true that some cars can have locks so you cant steal the rotors?

  • Hey man I'm in a wheelchair and live on my own. Bleeding brakes is impossible for me without getting help from some idiot neighbor. I have speed bleeders on one car, but not the one i'm working on. I watched this 20 min ago, and just made one. Super easy IMO. I'm gonna test it tomorrow. Thanks for this video!

  • @jeepxj07 Hope it works out for you.

  • do i have to open the brakes resorvoir when bleeding the brakes so the air passes down

  • @hp11208 You can leave the cap on the reservoir.

  • 22 years experience of all brakes & never seen such crap in my life.....

    Heres easy way...without the video...

    3/4mm rubber pipe, bout 200mm long always handy to have extra.

    An empty container

    Look at brake nipple

    if slight corrosion, wire brush & apply wd40 spray or apply heat.

    Connect hose to nipple, making sure other end of pipe in container

    grab a friend, relative or neighbour

    get them to sit in car, van etc & instruct them to pump brake pedal and hold on ur instruction.

    

  • pump & hold brake pedal & tighten nipple on each hold gradually 3 - 4 times is usually more than enough to bleed any brakes ive came across in 22 years.

    check brake fluid reservoir level make sure there is enough fluid in it to be bled.

    top up after nipple is tightened as required to MAX level

    5 minute job each brake caliper or cylinder dependant on disc brakes or drums.

  • @scottinfife i guess you never read the decription that says one person brake bleeder..... the way u decribe is normal if you have a buddy around yes. Maybe your 22 years of brake experience should have been cut back a tad and you should have spent alittle more time learning how to read and understand what the words mean.

  • @69MrAssman  X2. The video is about ONE PERSON bleeding system. Take your 22 yrs and attituce with you. READ what this is about here. Your negativity is noted.

    Don

  • wow! genius, you make it look so easy.....thanks

  • What width of tubing did you use there? Also what is the piece of tubing at the end, attaching to the bleeder? Is that shrink tubing?

    I would like to create this nifty tool myself, as the concept of it makes sense. I want to buy the materials, but just not sure what width of tubing I should get without having to buy one, check fitting, and have to buy another.

    Thanks.

  • @pinoychink The main hose is 4mm motorcycle vent hose with a 3 1/16 plastic splice and rubber hose.

  • what type of grease is that red stuff.

  • @DALE97DSM Wheel bearing grease

  • easy one is to use a water bottle

  • @DALE97DSM yea i used a gatorage bottle lol

    

  • Thanks a lot!

  • I tried and I tried but the line kept filling up with air from the top to bottom. I don't know what was going wrong.

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  • @Smileb1b I'm pretty sure at the time it was because my pads were completely worn out. It was a little better after changing the pads.

  • I replaced my master cylinder from the advice from the guy doing my inspection, it didnt pass because of this. So i replaced it, and i did bleed the master cylinder. After i tried to bleed the brakes and thought i succeeded. i repeated the brake pressing till fluid came out. I did this from furthest tire to closest. BUT MY BRAKE PEDAL STILL HITS THE FLOOR!! WHATS WRONG?

  • @BAC1001 You still have air in the system.The first thing you have to do when replacing a master cylinder is to bench bleed it.

  • @BAC1001

    Indeed. You must BENCH BLEED your new master cylinder before you install in in the car. I won't explain how here just watch videos on this. Then once installed on the car after you have bench bleed it you now bleed the brakes as normal.

    Some new master cylinders come with bench bleed kits in the box and instructions. If you don't bench bleed you new master cylinder your pedal will never be right no matter how much you bleed the lines.

  • thankyou, very helpful

  • I thought you had to close the bleeder before you let off the

    break or you would be getting air in the line

  • @cmbrown90 The fluid in the bottle prevents that from happening.

  • what if u just changed the front brakes? where do you bleed first? passenger ?

  • @CaliCal68 Yes always start with the furthest one away from the master cylinder first.

  • @CaliCal68 Yes always start with the furthest one away from the master cylinder first.

  • how many times do you press the pedal?

  • @My96XJ No it does not.

  • @My96XJ You keep pressing the pedal till no more air comes out.

  • does the key have to be in the ON position to press the brake pedal?

  • sounds like mr rogers

  • instead of messy grease try Zep 2000 (true it's a industrial product but you can find them on eBay from time to time or buy thru Zep about $11 a 24 oz) this stuff works like a clear Teflon grease & works wonders (makes a great chain lube for bikes & motorcycles) it penetrates AND lubes well otherwise a squirt of PB Blaster works wonders - otherwise great video

  • How in the world do you get the vehicle up that high? Using a larger floor jack? Or what about a floor jack on a block of wood?

  • thanks!

  • So when you let up on the peddle the air sucked back into the brake lines is magically destroyed with this bleeding system. Thank you but I made a air system that pumps my brakes while I sit at the bleeder valve. After I made this one man system. I found some one way valves you can replace your old bleeder valves with where you can just pump them without having to close your valves until done. Don't trust them but they have them at auto parts stores. But I will try the grease tip. Thanks.

  • how can air be sucked in if the hose has a tight fit over the nipple if it sucks anything back in its going to be brake fluid

  • @courageous917 The air in the hose gets sucked back in if you let up a little. The only way that air won't get sucked back in is if the hose has fluid all the way through it. End to end and no air bubbles.

  • @krrrruptidsoless

    Air can be sucked back in around the base of the loose bleeder screw...which sounds logical. That's why he smeared grease around the base of the bleeder screw, because brake fluid is thinner than grease and so when fluid is being sucked back in on the back stroke of the pedal, the system will take the least resistant fluid ...which is the brake fluid, not the grease...because the grease is thicker than the brake fluid. Sounds like a great little tip.

  • @JetMechMA

    I did that. But then I thought that air can get through grease so it doesn't matter. I have never heard of airtight smeared on grease. That is why I made my own brake pumper for bleeding brakes. That way I can control it as I look at it. But they do make self bleeding bleed screws. One way valves that replace originals.

  • @krrrruptidsoless

    JM: I gotta tell you, I never heard of smearing the grease either. I haven't done a lot of bleeding but I've never done it and everything came out fine. In fact, the last couple of times, I did a quick and dirty bleed....sort of. I simply sucked out most of the old fluid from the reservoir and filled it up with fresh fluid. I could actually feel the pedal firm up a little. Did the same thing with my power steering fluid. Sucked out all the old fluid and filled with new.

  • @JetMechMA

    If anything the grease keeps it from seizing up with rust. So it is something I will do just for that purpose. Never had them rust up but its better than nothing. And that is what you are supposed to do with your resevoir oil. It says in the manual. Haven't done my steering fluid but might next time I change my oil. Yap most people just leave the oil in the brakes and stuff until they sell it I reckon?

  • @krrrruptidsoless your absolutely right i didnt see any air tho we are def on the same page tho lol

  • should be using a fitting wrench!

  • why use a fitting wrench when u are able to use a ring spanner??? ring spanners are better anyways

  • Ok, is that some odd looking fluid or what, usually its supposed to be clear, or see through.

  • As long as it's not going into your brake system I wouldn't worry about the color of the fluid in the jar. He's mainly using that fluid (in the jar) to submerge the hose tubing. To answer your question yes you must certainly use clear fluid when putting it in your master cylinder.

  • @kidcool1977 no actually the fluid in the jar is there to get sucked back up instead of sucking air back up wasting time ...... pretty brilliant idea .. i think im going to make my way to home depot today

  • it doesnt suck the fluid back up.... it acts as an airlock so it DOESNT suck back at all....

  • @snowboi1289 That is what old fluid looks like.