Wow, reading the comments! I cant believe people are still so blind. Using the bible alone to prove your religion. Like using Harry Potter to prove Hogwarts is real, Using The Lord of the Rings to prove Frodo Baggins is real. Will the madness ever end?
People get so upset if they find someone not believing in a God but once they find a believer it then has to be the correct god, or Their God. I find it Funny how so many can feel so sure. While religion has been dead wrong about everything.
Warning: Extreme AntiMormons present. If you have a brain/want to know what mormons actually believe/support that people should not be persecuted for their religion, please leave now.
I hope everyone's listening, because MOrmons believe they can become exalted as a God of their own worlds, as they believe God the one and only was once an imperfect man himself who was exalted as well into Godhood. Mormons also believe they can have as many wives as they want in heaven. How pompous and arrogant is that!!!! This corrupt belief system completely contradicts everything the bible teaches! and it makes men prideful and arrogant to believe that load of pompous crap!
@mediaboyz Never said anywhere what God can and can't do. just like every other whacked brain washed mormon I've come across, you choose to interpret the book of mormon and the bible how ever you choose, because like most mormons, they are taught to interpret things with the spirit and feelings more than with their mind, logic and common sense. Everything I mentioned is TRUE. It all has to do with imperfect men especially LDS creating laws to suit their own needs, not abiding Jesus Christs will!
Please tell me then what Matthew 5:48 means? Also Romans 8:17?
If our church isn't true, please tell us the One true church Paul mentions so we can all know!
Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
@mediaboyz you'd rather be right than hear the truth about your own religion and what Christians think of it atleast those Christians who know the Mormon religion completely contradicts what the bible, God and Christ taught. Of course you won't get it, because you've been brainwashed and indoctrinated with many false teachings and misleading information. It's very sad to see so many confused and manipulated people in this world by false prophets and corrupt churches, made to believe they're true
Its unfortunate when one tries to have rational discussions with other Christians that they completely avoid the topic or issue or change the subject. Not the first time its happened. If you want to know the truth read the entire Book of Mormon like I and my wife have and you will know for yourself and have your own testimony it is from God. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints is God's true church restored on earth. God bless you.
@mediaboyz You're just plain ignorant to think the book of mormon is true, when there's been many finds of it being plagiarized straight from the old and new testament and other books. I'm tired of trying to tell mormons how mislead they are by showing proof through the scriptures and not man made false teachings from false prophets. If you really want to know the truth about Mormonism, go to utlm(dot)org for all your answers. You wanna talk reality and doctrine, send me a pm. We'll talk serious
I'm already familiar with the Tanners she passed away several years ago. I know the truth about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. If I had any question about my faith I sure wouldn't be paying a FULL tithe or attending every Sunday etc.
I suppose this conversation is over as you have not replied to any of the following:
@mediaboyz I'm sorry you've convinced yourself of all of that without thoroughly examining the facts, using common sense and logic. I don't waste my time with people who are too closed minded and set in their ways. By your smart alec replies, you already think you know everything and have all the answers, but you don't. If you really want to learn something about your religion, I'd be glad to help. I have been through most of it for 20 years. I've witnessed enough to know ins and outs of lds.
@mediaboyz That's what I thought, Of course you''re not going to discuss this matter mono e mono because you're afraid of hearing the truth and other things you might hear that the leaders of the church won't ever tell you and discuss, because there's a lot of misguided teachings and beliefs in the lds church they're ashamed of. I have a wealth of TRUE information about the LDS church that comes straight from LDS doctrine and personal experience if you're willing to listen.So far ur ears plugged
I received a copy of said book for Christmas one year. I read it. I am still an atheist. Sorry if you find it hard to believe that revelation doesn't happen to everyone who touches the holy binding.
Speaking as an atheist who studies such things for fun... Mormonism actually contradicts very little from the Bible. I have read the book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, the Doctrine of Covenants, and countless sermons from LDS leaders. I've also read the Bible through. There's absolutely nothing in them which are incompatible under the appropriate belief system.
Even though I think they're insane, I will steadfastly stand up for the Mormons on this issue.
@100percentrekkie Then you haven't studied enough, because there are plenty of differences between Mormonism and Christianity in what they believe and how they believe. You're only seeing what's on the surface and not looking in the major differences in the way they view the doctrine.
Keep MORMONS from KNOCKING on YOUR DOORS! They spread nothing but a Load of whitewashed, Sugar coated lies to attract the Naive into believing they're "all Christian". They're belief teaches exact opposite of what Christians believe Christ and God to be! Mormons believe they can become Gods of their own worlds one day, dismissing the Alpha and Omega the one and only God concept most Christians believe. They also believe God was once an imperfect man who exalted himself into a God, like they can.
I forgot to say Laura said she had never heard of the pastor Robert Jeffress after her nasty comments about him.
Robert Jeffress is one of the finest Christian leaders around and if she didn't know that then she is either not a Christian or she is a secular Christian at best.
The only Bigots are Mormons themselves for all of the things they say, do and practice that make them into an elitist group whom thinks they are the chosen ones and better than everyone else! Take a look at everything they believe and practice, it all leads to having to pay and earn their way to the temple and heaven. They all have this mind set that you have to earn your way instead of being saved by grace through faith alone. Mormons are arrogant and pompous bigots!
@3Deditor I guess you should do more research before you start the name calling. Ignorance is pretty ugly and it makes you look stupid. Sounds to me like you are the bigot.
@allmetal71 you're the ignorant fool who chooses to continue to believe the load of crap the Mormon church teaches. You're one of the million who choose to follow blindly as they ask you to only feel and have faith. They rarely if ever tell the members to think logically and do their own research outside the whitewashed teachings within the mormon doctrine. It's because they don't want you to know the hidden truths, that's right million, because there are far less active members than they claim.
@3Deditor Really? The Church urges its members to obtain as much education as possible. Is that ignorance? The church tells its members that they need to verify the truthfulness of all things. Is that ignorance? Better be careful, your bigotry is showing.
@allmetal71 they encourage their members to get a good education outside the church, they also tell you not to educate yourself with other resources outside the Mormon doctrine. That's because they have a lot to hide and are embarrassed about. Better be careful, because you make yourself look like another naive idiot that will believe anything you're told. Let me guess, you were asked to pray if the Book of Mormon was true and if you got a burning in your bosom, It "MUST BE TRUE!!!" MORON!
@3Deditor How do you know what they encourage? Do you attend their church services? Where did you get your information about what they tell their members to do? Was it from going to the church itself or was it from some website or anti-Mormon literature? Better make sure you know your sources because from what I can tell you are the naive idiot. I have at least studied and researched to know. I haven't taken some hearsay tidbits and spouted them as truth.
@allmetal71 you really are a clueless one who hasn't chosen to look beyond what these manipulative leaders choose to spoon feed the members. I was a member for 20 years! I KNOW the ins and outs of Mormonism! I know a hell of a lot more than most people choose to learn because they're given fear based mormon commandments not to research outside their own doctrine. It's all a phoney pyramid scheme to get peoples money. The true Jesus doesn't require money or temples to share his spirit & kingdom.
@3Deditor Based on your comments I would say that you are clueless and I doubt that you were ever a member. It's easy to state on the internet that you are a member, but nothing you say even rings closely to what is taught in the Church. Members are allowed to educate themselves, search, ponder, and seek truth. Have you read the Bible? Jesus speaks of tithes and offering to further the effort of the Kingdom of God. Christ visited the temple at 12, to do God's business.
@allmetal71 You're the uneducated one here, and it shows; by how you left out important details why Jesus did God's work at the temple. It was because the people had corrupted it with greed and money! Something thats required to build elaborate temples! Christ destroyed that temple, and rebuilt it in 3 days to cleanse it from sin. He didn't mean literally build a new temple! He meant that HE is the new temple, we can ONLY find joy and happiness through HIM within our own temples, OUR SPIRIT!
Bigotry is just a raw expression of the "fear of the unknown". The evangelicals of today have inherited their closed-minded bigotry (viz., fear of the unknown) from their 1950s predecessors: I know this because I experienced the closed-minded fear of the unknown that was characteristic of the Evangelicals of that very-different era.
And, back then, they despised labels; so, they were "non-denominational": a futile way of escaping labels by labeling themselves "a denomination without a label".
Slowly, people ARE starting to realize what Fox and other media outlets are all about... It's time for the News to be News again. 3 part solution: 1. Every channel must provide a 1 hour News program WITHOUT COMMERCIALS. 2. News programs should not be rated by any Ratings system. 3. All News Channels live by the same rules, but are "Pay TV" for revenues as opposed to advertising.
If the mormon "gospel" was the same as the Christian gospel, we would not be having this discussion - right? Christians believe that there is ONLY ONE God and ONLY ONE universe. We do not beileve that we will become a "God" ourselves. It was Satan's ambition to be equal to God, that is why he was thrown out of Heaven and that is how any Christian can so easily recognize the book of mormon as Satan's work. BTW, do you think Satan would want you to believe in eternal punishment?
Everything you just said is completely untrue. The last revelation of Jesus Christ was given to John - it is called the book of Revelation in the Bible. In that book, Jesus said that ANYONE who adds to or takes away from this revelation would lose their salvation. So, ANYONE telling you today that we need to rely on new revelation from Jesus Christ is a liar and not from God. This is exactly what the mormon "church" has taught you.
@edadan2009 Revelations was not the last revelation given. It is the last book in the Bible, but its placement at the end was by the men who canonized the scriptures. They placed the book of Revelations in the back because it was speaking of things in the future. All of the books in the Bible are separate writings. The Bible was not a book that the Prophets and Apostles wrote in, it is a collection of writings that were put together.
So then, you believe that Jesus forgot to give us the whole message and came back to Joseph Smith 1900 years later to fill in the missing pieces? Yes, the mormon "gospel" does differ from the one that God gave us 2000 years ago. And, your beliefs also contradict many other scriptures - eternal punishment in hell being just one of them. "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed." (Gal 1:8)
You have believed one of the greatest lies in all of human history. The muslim "prophet" Mohammed also was visited by an angel of light that gave him a book of "revelation". Today it is know as the quor'an. "Angels" that come to give us "revelations" that contradict or differ from the existing Gospel of Jesus Christ are not from God. You and your family can only be saved by placing your faith in the real Jesus Christ. I sincerely hope you will. Think about it.
Your "religion" contradicts the Bible. That is how we know that it is not from God. And, if it is not from God - who is it from? Your "church" calls God a liar by teaching you that there is no eternal punishment in hell for anyone. Your "church" has the audacity to teach you that you will become a "God" yourself! How delighted Satan must be to see what he has done in the mormon "church"! Repent and believe the ONE and ONLY true God of the ONE and ONLY universe!
You will not be able to buy or earn your way into Heaven. Salvation comes through faith in and obedience to Jesus Christ. You claim that you believe God, but you do not.know God and you are not known by Him. There is only ONE God and ONE universe. And, how dare you insult Jesus Christ by claiming that Satan is His brother! Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh - Satan was created by Him. Yes, your "religion" is EVIL! Leave your wicked cult, repent and believe God.
If we are ALL God's spiritual children - including Jesus and Satan and, there are billions of flesh and blood "spiritual children" on the earth, then John 3:16 is a lie. For, God did not give his ONLY begotten son - He only gave us ONE of his MANY begotten sons - according to your beliefs. As I said before, you are in a wicked cult. Unless you repent and believe the truth, you will not be saved. Leave the mormon "church" and find a good non-denominational CHRISTIAN church.
Your beliefs are a matter of public record - not a great revelation on my part. I do not misunderstand lds "teachings". They are simply Satan's lies and you have believed them. There will be no heaven for you or any other mormon - but only "fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God". But this doesn't concern you because Satan has taught you that everything God says about hell is a lie.
No, we are not all followers of Jesus Christ. Christianity is monotheistic. You believe that Jesus is one of many saviors. Therefore, you are not a Christian and not of God's house. You believe that you will become a "God" yourself. You believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers - which would make John 3:16 a lie. Satan has thoroughly deceived you. You don't love God - you love the idea of becoming a "God". As I said before, please repent and leave that wicked cult.
I am not against any person - but I strongly oppose the teachings of the LDS "church". It's simply quite amazing to realize that when you are reading the "Book of Mormon", you are reading the writings of Satan himself. If you are a mormon, your are not saved. Please repent and leave that wicked cult. There is only ONE God and only ONE universe. Place your faith in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. He is the only way to the Father in Heaven. Peace.
Look im a staunch conservative and a strong believing LDS member, but hugh Hewitt is wrong. As a mormon I've heard bigotry towards my beliefs from both the right and the left. Simple as that. Right or Left I hear it all the time.
'September Dawn' shouldn't be to blame for putting Mormons in a negative light - their SciFi dogma does that one - their story of way there are black people, special powers of their underwear, and believing that there were Jews living in America 3000 years ago...... No, they have put themselves in a negative light, but cults do that, that why cults should hold any sway over people's rights.
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See I disagree, with the idea that the media should keep anyone no matter how bigoted there position are from equal access to the airwaves. People are intelligent (for the most part) they know trash from truth (for the most part) but censoring a group and denying them equal access to present there opinion is not only immoral and illegal, it is Unconstitutional and should not happen. Even though it is allowed to happen all the time.
anti-mormon bigots? mormonism is a retarded belief (like most religious beliefs), magic underpants and so forth. It should be perfectly reasonable to actually call them morons, should I respect the beliefs of a holocaust denier?
@hempartist420 You really don't know much about Mormonism. Holocaust deniers maintain a deep-seeded hatred toward Jews whereas Mormons, like other Christians, preach charity and kindness toward one's fellow man. Do they always succeed? Of course not. We are all just human. But comparing a faith of kindness to holocaust deniers is unwarranted. By that same token, I could just as easily liken YOU to Rush Limbaugh who believes that all Muslims are evil, hateful terrorists.
@andrew042886 mormons have the same logic and reasoning as holocaust deniers that's all I'm pointing out, but it's taboo to criticize someones religious belief simply because it's a religious one, and by the way Mormonism was a completely racist organization before 1978, not to mention their bigotry against gays and such
"to find it on YouTube" is what he said. He doesn't blame "YouTube" but the bigots spouting their bigotry on YouTube. You can disagree with his assessment, but I believe he doesn't blame YouTube. I, as a MORMON, like many aspects of YouTube. It allows us equal opportunity to express our views as well. It is the Internet, many goods things and information found, some I consider "good" and some"evil".
The Christians and most of the population just don't listen to the newsgroups anymore! I have not listen to the Newsgroups in years and listen to the Christians news groups and the George So call newsgroups are just for the unknowing!
Now about the Mormon having two wifes or not. Who cares. Everybody has the Mormonm Religion pegged and there is no more said! The public knows the truth and tring to change that ideal is like tring to tell the public that Rocks don't roll down hill but up hill !
@turtle4aire "Everyone has the Mormon Religion pegged." Ummm, no. In fact, the mass majority of the public knows almost nothing about the tenets of Mormonism. To make a claim like that is like saying the public has all Muslims pegged as inherent terrorists.
@DSD1v57BG32 No I am too bust watching Hannity tear up dumbass democraps on his show. I like Hannity and I am glad that he interviewed the FBI agent that infiltrated the homosexual child molester organization that believes oral sex on an 18 month old baby is "ok" NAMLA. I cannot believe the democrats and OBAMA believe that a man who admires a child rapist should be appointed as Safe Schools Czar!
@DSD1v57BG32 LOL - Kevin Jenning, Safe School Czar, wrote the foreword to the book "the Queering of Elementary Education" why would he write a foreword to a book that teaches homosexual teachers to train kindergarten kids that HOMOSEXUALITY is a correct lifestyle choice if he did NOT admire and support pedophiles? Why would President OBAMA and democrats support pedophiles? Because it is popular with LIBERALS.
um I have never been a democrat I am actually a registered Repbulican and when I was 10 I did a report on Abortion and I am ANTI - Abortion..your views????
@DSD1v57BG32 No I do not need Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or losers like Laura Bush and Dick Cheney to tell me what to believe. I have the bible and that is the most important source of info.
I would rather have a Mormon that a liberal that appoints as Safe Schools Czar a person who admires a child molester and wrote a foreword to a book in 1999 calling for elementary school children to explore their sexual identities, for teachers to incorporate homosexual themes in grades K-5, for discarding a “hetero-normative” approach to education and for “acknowledging children as sexual beings.”
I am sick and very stressed about the whole sex ed thing in Kindergarten..that made it a very rough year for me last year. I would rather have a Mormon then a liberal in any govt field then a liberal. So yes I absolutely agree with you 100 fold. I however am deeply concerned for the welfare of all people who do not know Christ and have a personal relationship with Him.
Has anyone seen the Sean Hannity interview with the FBI agent that infiltrated the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)? You should search youTube for Sean Hannity and NAMBLA. The former President of NAMBA Harry Hay was greatly admired by the current OBAMA appointed Safe Schools Czar Kevein Jennings; who by the way wrote the forward to a book about preparing young kids to accept homosexuality titled "the Queering of Elementary Education". Your democratic party at work.
Anti-Mormon feelings on the LEFT? On the LEFT? The left is against the conservatism amongst Mormons, the right is against the Mormon faith. There is a difference.
Thats cus more left wingers plain dont like religions, while the right is mostly religions. Its that simple. And on the subject of mormonism. It is a dieing religion, with some pretty fucked up views. My friend got kicked of his mission, for admitting he had sex. So he took the 500 mile flight there and 2 days later they made him return. Talk about some bullshit.
JRM: "I encounter more anti-Mormonism from left-wingers than right-wingers"
-- I've noticed that, too. Back when I was younger it was the opposite: most anti-Mormons you saw then were the usual right-wing fundie whack-jobs and street preachers raving about Kolob and magic underwear.
But ever since the Mormons stuck their noses into other people's churches, as they did in my California church with Prop 8, average Americans wonder whose church these extremists are going to go after next.
JRM: "The LDS church hasn't had any involvement in other religious organizations."
-- Of course they have.
In 2008 there were 22 weddings in my church. Three of those were for same-sex couples. More were planned until these religious extremists banned same-sex marriage and told my church that we had to alter our marriage sacraments to comply with Mormon doctrine. Same story for over 200 other California churches and synagogues.
I wonder if they plan on telling us who we can baptize next?
Let me guess, your an Episcopalian. The church with no principles.
We did not create or institute the ban on same-sex marriages. California voters decided to put that in place. The church dedicated some resources to the Pro-Prop-8 movement, but it was small in the scope of things.
-- None of yer business. The Episcopalians, Unitarians and United Church of Christ, along with many individual congregations, all welcome same-sex marriages of their members. All three denominations were already ancient in this country at a time when Joseph Smith was still trying to decide which one of his friends' wives to screw next.
Why is it any of your business whether other churches share your "principles" or not, John?
-- Bull. Hinckley was already plotting this jihad, starting in Hawaii, when you were an infant, John, and he tried mightily to hide the church's involvement at the time. Mormons paid between 55% and 75% of the cost of Prop 8, including some funds directly from the church with a religious tax-exemption.
So much for claiming to allow "all men" to worship "how, where, or what they may."
@mike2jb in 1993 to 1995 I had been an LDS missionary with a view to serve Christ, but when I came to the completion of my two year mission I was stunned to find how strange the Mormon doctrine really was and how much it differed from normal Christianity. after coming home I felt lied to and used, I had so many unanswered questions and no Mormon leader would answer them, especially in regards to polygamy. I even asked my bishop about polygamy in 1993 & he just dodged the question and said no.
billymeier, I'm sorry to hear about your experience, which is out of the ordinary.
Most Mormons I know, including missionaries, do understand their faith and its doctrines.
I have no problem at all with their believing what they like or with their sending missionaries to explain their faith to others. But I will not stand for their using their great wealth, as they did with Prop 8, to force my church and dozens of others to change our marriage sacraments in order to obey Mormon doctrine.
@mike2jb I think the Mormons are very smart people. I watched a documentary on their language training institute and it is very impressive how quickly the Mormons teach their members a foreign language.
-- So do I, for the most part. Most Mormons I know are well-educated and intelligent.
So is Osama bin Laden, by the way. And Osama, like the Mormons, also believes in using force to compel people of other faiths to obey his religious rules. Too bad such smart folks as these have such wretched morals.
@mike2jb Wow, I hope you're not in any position of power--in fact, I think I would like to make sure the state you reside takes away your drivers license.
Are you really making a linear connection between Mormons and Al Qaeda (Osama bin Laden)?
@kumug78: "Are you really making a linear connection..."?
-- No, I was making a comparison. These are two groups who believe in using force to compel people not of their faith to obey their extreme religious views. As far as I can see, they differ only in their methods. You are free to disagree.
And your disagreement might be more believable if you offered reasons for it instead of childish insults.
@mike2jb Childish insults? No, I honestly believe you shouldn't operate a vehicle--so no, it wasn't childish because I meant it.
But since you brought it up here are some of your comments on this very thread,
"when Joseph Smith was still trying to decide which one of his friends' wives to screw next.. 'Hinckley was already plotting this jihad' ..'Pathetic hypocrites'...'force my church and dozens of others to change our marriage sacraments in order to obey Mormon doctrine'...
"most anti-Mormons you saw then were the usual right-wing fundie whack-jobs and street preachers raving about Kolob and magic underwear. But ever since the Mormons stuck their noses into other people's churchesaverage Americans wonder whose church these extremists are going to go after next. I wonder if they plan on telling us who we can baptize next?"
So, can you define "believable reasons" I could possibly offer to someone like you?
@kumug78 No, I can't think of any believable reasons that distinguish the substance of the Monson's jihad from that of bin Laden. They are both attempts to force onedience to a religious belief upon others and therefore bear the hallmark of religious extremists-- so perhaps there are no reasons to distinguish the two. Perhaps that's why you haven't offered any.
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And if you have an issue with any other statement, you are free to comment. BTW, ARE you planning to tell us who to baptize?
@mike2jb "no reasons to distinguish the two"? Honestly, do you realize how stupid you sound? Sorry, I should be nice because I'm pretty sure you're the same 56 year old Mike that is a door greeter at Wal-Mart near my house. You do a great job pulling the carts in, checking peoples receipts, smiling at the customers--one suggestion, you seem to mix up "Welcome to Wal-Mart" and "Thanks for shopping at Wal-Mart". I feel confident that with lots of practice you can get it right!!!
@kumug78: "Welcome to Wal-Mart", "how stupid you sound", "take away your drivers license" ...
-- Yep. Pretty much as I thought. You have no reasons at all for banding together to remove your neighbors' civil rights and force other faiths to change their sacraments in order to obey the orders of your "prophet."
No reasons at all, except that you're just born better than your neighbors.
No wonder Mormonism is second only to Islam on the list of religions most feared by Americans.
@mike2jb LOL! Thanks Mikey JB, I needed a good laugh today. I would love to see the source of your fact drawing--like, "Mormonism is second only to Islam on the list of religions most feared by Americans." where did that come from? Lets analyze this: which scholarly group went about asking Americans their list of most feared religions and these two faiths rose to the top? What was the sample pool? Why was the survey conducted? Who funded the survey? When and where was it done?
Hey, kumug, sorry not to answer sooner-- travelling this weekend.
Wow, you asked a LOT of questions, so here goes:
1. "which scholarly group...?" The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life (pewforum. org).
2. "What was the sample pool?" 3,002 American adults (> age 18) The statisticians say that this size of a pool results in 95% confidence that the sampling error is plus or minus 2 percentage points.
3. "Why ...conducted?" As near as I can tell, in the ramp-up to the 2008 political campaigns some in the press publicly questioned whether Romney could win if he got the GOP Pres. nomination in 2008, claiming widespread prejudice towards LDS.
4. "Who funded...?" The Pew Charitable Trusts (pewtrusts. org).
5. "When and where...?" August 1-18, 2007. Nationwide.
To be fair, Mormons were third on the list after Muslims and atheists, if you consider atheism a "faith."
@mike2jb Apparently the only one who has read the article you have just quoted is me. Couple things--1, "The Pew Forum" is funded by "The Pew Charitable Trusts" and have a 5 billion dollar endowment; 2, It is not an academic journal (no peer review, limited sample sizes, insufficient sample pool time etc) rather, by self-proclamation, a "think tank" i.e. politically motivated group.
But aside from that, its actually a very good article. You should read the words that accompany the tables---
@kumug78 ""The Pew Forum" is funded by "The Pew Charitable Trusts"
-- Uhh-- yes, that would be my answer #4, below, to your various questions.
No, it's not an academic journal. But it's the most extensive set of data on this particular subject I have seen. If you have evidence of some better data, or that the Pew forum uses improper techniques, please provide it.
@mike2jb The conclusions of this article is that; 1, Romney is religious (which in 2007 was a bad thing because of Bush) 2, Perception of Mormons from 1/3 of all evangelicals "expressed reservations" about voting for a Mormon, conversely, 61% of voters "expressed reservations" in voting for an atheist, 45% for a Muslim, and 16% for an evangelical Christian; 3, 53% of the public hold "favorable views" when asked about Mormons. Hmmm..., kind of the opposite of what you're extrapolating from it.
@kumug78 "kind of the opposite of what you're extrapolating from it."
-- Nope. Exactly what I said. Mormons were second only to Muslims among religious groups viewed unfavorably and second to Muslims in groups respondents reservations about voting for.
I personally think most of this is due to old anti-Mormon prejudice, largely from evangelicals. But that was 2007. I wonder how many opinions changed after Mormons meddled in other faiths' sacraments in 2008. My own opinion certainly changed.
@mike2jb-- I think a direct quote from the article you have quoted sums it up: "64% of college graduates express favorable opinions of Mormons, as do 56% of those with some college experience. But fewer than half of those with a high school education or less (45%) have a positive impression of Mormons."
Due to the exhibition of your extreme ignorance, inability to make a coherent argument, and gross misinterpretation of data--you're writings conclude a lack of academic background (cont.)
@kumug78 Ah. Now, in addition to your gay neighbors, you don't like people who lack an academic background. Are you planning to remove their civil rights, too?
@mike2jb No, I like everybody. What I loathe is statements made out of ignorance and as such festers hate which you have.
Civil rights...huh??? So we're equating financial contribution to civil rights infringement? Lets use your ridiculous equation to prove again your disconnect with reality: 'yes' prop 8 backers spent $38 million and 'no' backers spent $44 million; 7 million voters voted 'yes' and 6.4 million voters voted 'no'; $5.42 spent per yes vote and $6.87 per no vote; cont--
@mike2jb The fact of the matter is you don't like the position of 7,001,084 voters that voted "yes" on proposition 8. It doesn't matter that the population of Mormons in CA in 761,000. Lets just say all of those represent voters (which its only a fraction), there are 6.3 million other voters in the State that actually PASSED the measure--but for you, its much easier to justify your anger towards the "Mormons".
Maybe you should pick up a new hobby because academics aren't your thing.
@kumug78 The fact of the matter is that I oppose the hypocritical position of the LDS Church in its use of force to compel other churches and other citizens to obey their religious views.
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"... its much easier to justify your anger towards the 'Mormons'."
-- Of course it is. They paid for this hateful proposition. Without their hard work (oh-- and tons of cash, some of it with a religious tax exemption), Prop 8 would never have passed. Church leaders said as much following the election.
@mike2jb Below is the LA Times article tracking the money. The Church donated $189,000 to the "Yes" campaign of over $38 million raised. The "no" campaign raised $44 million dollars. The $189,000 was properly filed with the state of CA and is public record. These donations were "in kind" by directive of those who've donated stock to the Church. Again, you have a problem with facts and fact gathering.
@mike2jb Youtube would not allow me to post the link. google "la times proposition 8 tracking the money" and you will pull the ad up. Keep in mind, this is the LA TIMES--the ones who ran multiple stories against prop 8.
@kumug78 The tax-free Church donation was as you described (but who really knows? --they won't open their books for a fair valuation of Church property, phone banks, satellite broadcast equipment and attorney time donated for the campaign).
Even their handling of that small amount was so shady that they were fined. A biased report of the recent stipulation is here:
@mike2jb that is about a 36% higher amount of money spent per vote; therefore the 'no' campaign infringed upon the civil rights of those that voted 'yes' by 36% thus, the no campaign is attacking the yes campaign's "civil rights" according to your logic.
I don't expect you to understand this because your own facts and logic have completed defeated you but you're still holding to the venomous hatred towards a faith. You could understand the facts but you've refused to do such.
@kumug78 "that is about a 36% higher amount of money spent per vote"
-- Yeah, I'm not sure what your point is. Mine is that Prop 8 would not have passed without the work and money of Mormons. Campaign leaders and Church leaders both agreed on this point.
What they did was perfectly legal. And absolutely immoral.
And, returning to my comment that first caught your attention-- it differs only in method from what bin Laden is up to: forcing those of other faiths to follow his rules.
@kumug78 "the no campaign is attacking the yes campaign's 'civil rights'"
-- Please cite an example. Before same-sex marriage was outlawed by prop 8, no one had forced an LDS church or any other to perform a wedding. In my own church, where weddings of our own parishioners were cancelled because of Prop 8, we believe in allowing "all men" to worship "how, where, or what they may."
I undedrstand Mormons used to claim the same belief; what a pity they have abandoned it.
@mike2jb You seem to have a hard time saying what you really want to say. I think the message I get is this:
You don't believe those who are uninformed should have such power in an election. Problem is that the same law that protects the "no" voters is the same law that protects the "yes" voters. The "no" campaign outspent the "yes" campaign--the message got out and the voters decided. Being a sore loser will get you nowhere.
Have reverence towards the law because no law=chaos.
@JohnRhysMusician I am a non-denominational Christian who affiliates with Evangelicals and Baptists. I would vote for Mitt Romney for President because he is a businessman with government experience and I do not care about his religion. I have no problem with Mormons, Catholics or Muslims whether I agree with them or not on all of the issues. One issue that all TRUE believers in GOD is that homosexuality is wrong.
The first thing we must do is lobby Neurologists & scientists to expose Religious-Faith as a brain malfunction.Christians MUSLIMS,JEWS.. nuts ignore REALITY imposing their retarded GOD beliefs on others conning people, stagnating the intellect.The government allows these Christian retards to teach, raping the minds of students with LIES passed as TRUTHS. The results are obvious an Ignorant, intolerant, self-righteous Christ-psychotic America
Seeing the truth in Mormon Doctrine and History and beliefs and rituals will drive any one to be against Mormonism. Mormonism is violent and it's intrinsically polygamous, whether they practice it or not. And they did practice it well into 1915+. This is legally provable. and I have posted it. Hell, Joseph F Smith "Did it" and he wrote in 1905 "Blood Atonement and the origin of Polygamy".He notes that Joe was killed at Carthage BECAUSE of polygamy. So, I posted that, too.
You're the prime example of a silly and sadistic old born again who blindly follows his leaders rants and raves against anything he can think of. Born agains have nothing good of their own to teach, they compromise by attacking every other religion they can. I wouldn't put it past you to have been someone on a witch or a vampire hunt and burning innocents at a stake because your pastor told you to. You make me sick.
@KyoHashiro I read the Mountain Meadows Massacre and that began a journey leading to truths I wish weren't true. Mormonism is as I stated below. Its very foundation was a simultaneous declaration of all non Mormon worship "anathema" and on it goes. The fruit of Mormonism is the MMMassacre Mormonism and Freemasonry have a secret tow line between them. I could do a number on Catholicism but I haven't the time. Find out what real Christianity is because it isn't Mormonism nor Pope-ish Rome
LOL, I am already on the list. My name happens to match one already on the list. It is a different person of course but it does not matter to the airport screeners who insist on strip searching me and detaining me for hours every time I want to go anywhere.
also media matters reports American citizens that they don't like to the us government to be put on a terrorist watch list ! watch who yo piss off America ! you could end up on a list
Mormonism is a joke. As is Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and all other forms of man made superstition. Yotube needs more antifaith sentiment. Faith is the mother of hatred.
What would tolerance entail in your opinion? I consider myself a fairly tolerant person. I let people live as they will insofar as it doesnt affect me.
If someone wanted to worship a bottle of ketchup I wouldnt bother disturbing them as long as they kept their illusion private.
I agree for the most part. But there is a lot to be learned from the eastern religions. I'm not saying believe in their dogma, but analyze their teachings. Judaism, while i dislike their book, has a lot of smart followers.
People who believed the Earth was flat used to outnumber those that believed it was round. And at any rate reasonable people hold monopolies in the NAS, NASA, college professorships, medical practices, philosophy departments, and intellectual circles. The only place we dont dominate is in politics, which is going to change sooner or later.
@TheRoseville5 What is NAMBLA? North American Man Boy Love Assn. A group of homsexuals endorsed by the democratic party; that desires to lower the age of sexual consent to 5 years old. Actually they want to remove age on consent laws completely. But I believe age 5 is their highest age. In a Sean Hannity FBI agent interview on YouTube it was said NAMBLA believes oral sex on an 18 month old baby is ok.
@DSD1v57BG32 Obama and democrats appointed Kevin Jennings as the Safe Schools Czar. Even though they are very aware of the FACT that the Safe School Czar believes in the Queering of Elementary Education and admires former North American Man Boy Love Assn President Harry Hay. NAMBLA believes oral sex on baby boy 18 months old is okay.
@TheRoseville5 Did you see this video on NAMBLA and Obama's appointment of Kevin Jennings to be the Safe Schools Czar who admires a child molester and wrote a foreword to a book in 1999 calling for elementary school children to explore their sexual identities, for teachers to incorporate homosexual themes in grades K-5, for discarding a “hetero-normative” approach to education and for “acknowledging children as sexual beings.” “The queering of elementary education” Your democrats at work.
Fox News is what stands in the lexicon under bigotry! they deny the very existence of atheists or even the fact that theyre becoming more and only "discuss" that with ppl who are of the oppinion of Fox! There are so many anti-liberal sentiments on that channel that you think they are against their own bussiness!
metallicarox80s needs to go running back to his mummy, i think cause he can't hold his own in a decent argument. does he need a bottle too? or maybe a security blankie---oh wait he already has a security blankie- it's called the mormon church!
u know some people do have a right to be mad at the mormon religion--I speak for all those who had to suffer because of its hateful teachings and its lies.
Wow, reading the comments! I cant believe people are still so blind. Using the bible alone to prove your religion. Like using Harry Potter to prove Hogwarts is real, Using The Lord of the Rings to prove Frodo Baggins is real. Will the madness ever end?
People get so upset if they find someone not believing in a God but once they find a believer it then has to be the correct god, or Their God. I find it Funny how so many can feel so sure. While religion has been dead wrong about everything.
pumpstations 3 weeks ago
Warning: Extreme AntiMormons present. If you have a brain/want to know what mormons actually believe/support that people should not be persecuted for their religion, please leave now.
Isle41 2 months ago
I hope everyone's listening, because MOrmons believe they can become exalted as a God of their own worlds, as they believe God the one and only was once an imperfect man himself who was exalted as well into Godhood. Mormons also believe they can have as many wives as they want in heaven. How pompous and arrogant is that!!!! This corrupt belief system completely contradicts everything the bible teaches! and it makes men prideful and arrogant to believe that load of pompous crap!
3Deditor 3 months ago
@3Deditor
Really so now you are telling us what God can't and can do?
Please read Matthew 5:48 --> 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
mediaboyz 2 months ago in playlist Mormon newsfeed
@mediaboyz Never said anywhere what God can and can't do. just like every other whacked brain washed mormon I've come across, you choose to interpret the book of mormon and the bible how ever you choose, because like most mormons, they are taught to interpret things with the spirit and feelings more than with their mind, logic and common sense. Everything I mentioned is TRUE. It all has to do with imperfect men especially LDS creating laws to suit their own needs, not abiding Jesus Christs will!
3Deditor 2 months ago
@3Deditor
Please tell me then what Matthew 5:48 means? Also Romans 8:17?
If our church isn't true, please tell us the One true church Paul mentions so we can all know!
Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
mediaboyz 2 months ago
@mediaboyz you'd rather be right than hear the truth about your own religion and what Christians think of it atleast those Christians who know the Mormon religion completely contradicts what the bible, God and Christ taught. Of course you won't get it, because you've been brainwashed and indoctrinated with many false teachings and misleading information. It's very sad to see so many confused and manipulated people in this world by false prophets and corrupt churches, made to believe they're true
3Deditor 2 months ago
@3Deditor
Its unfortunate when one tries to have rational discussions with other Christians that they completely avoid the topic or issue or change the subject. Not the first time its happened. If you want to know the truth read the entire Book of Mormon like I and my wife have and you will know for yourself and have your own testimony it is from God. The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints is God's true church restored on earth. God bless you.
mediaboyz 2 months ago
@mediaboyz You're just plain ignorant to think the book of mormon is true, when there's been many finds of it being plagiarized straight from the old and new testament and other books. I'm tired of trying to tell mormons how mislead they are by showing proof through the scriptures and not man made false teachings from false prophets. If you really want to know the truth about Mormonism, go to utlm(dot)org for all your answers. You wanna talk reality and doctrine, send me a pm. We'll talk serious
3Deditor 2 months ago
@3Deditor
I'm already familiar with the Tanners she passed away several years ago. I know the truth about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. If I had any question about my faith I sure wouldn't be paying a FULL tithe or attending every Sunday etc.
I suppose this conversation is over as you have not replied to any of the following:
1) the one true church that we all should join
2) How the BOM contradicts the Bible
3) how much your priest makes a year :)
mediaboyz 2 months ago
@mediaboyz I'm sorry you've convinced yourself of all of that without thoroughly examining the facts, using common sense and logic. I don't waste my time with people who are too closed minded and set in their ways. By your smart alec replies, you already think you know everything and have all the answers, but you don't. If you really want to learn something about your religion, I'd be glad to help. I have been through most of it for 20 years. I've witnessed enough to know ins and outs of lds.
3Deditor 2 months ago
@mediaboyz That's what I thought, Of course you''re not going to discuss this matter mono e mono because you're afraid of hearing the truth and other things you might hear that the leaders of the church won't ever tell you and discuss, because there's a lot of misguided teachings and beliefs in the lds church they're ashamed of. I have a wealth of TRUE information about the LDS church that comes straight from LDS doctrine and personal experience if you're willing to listen.So far ur ears plugged
3Deditor 2 months ago
@mediaboyz
I received a copy of said book for Christmas one year. I read it. I am still an atheist. Sorry if you find it hard to believe that revelation doesn't happen to everyone who touches the holy binding.
100percentrekkie 2 weeks ago in playlist Fox News Bias
@3Deditor
Speaking as an atheist who studies such things for fun... Mormonism actually contradicts very little from the Bible. I have read the book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, the Doctrine of Covenants, and countless sermons from LDS leaders. I've also read the Bible through. There's absolutely nothing in them which are incompatible under the appropriate belief system.
Even though I think they're insane, I will steadfastly stand up for the Mormons on this issue.
100percentrekkie 2 weeks ago in playlist Fox News Bias
@100percentrekkie Then you haven't studied enough, because there are plenty of differences between Mormonism and Christianity in what they believe and how they believe. You're only seeing what's on the surface and not looking in the major differences in the way they view the doctrine.
3Deditor 2 weeks ago
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3Deditor 3 months ago
Keep MORMONS from KNOCKING on YOUR DOORS! They spread nothing but a Load of whitewashed, Sugar coated lies to attract the Naive into believing they're "all Christian". They're belief teaches exact opposite of what Christians believe Christ and God to be! Mormons believe they can become Gods of their own worlds one day, dismissing the Alpha and Omega the one and only God concept most Christians believe. They also believe God was once an imperfect man who exalted himself into a God, like they can.
3Deditor 3 months ago
I forgot to say Laura said she had never heard of the pastor Robert Jeffress after her nasty comments about him.
Robert Jeffress is one of the finest Christian leaders around and if she didn't know that then she is either not a Christian or she is a secular Christian at best.
scott31312 3 months ago
I just watch Foxnews and Laura Ingraham and karl rove were talking about Christianity.
It was like dumb and dumber. Laura Ingraham went out of her way to show her stupidity.
She was making nasty jabs on a real life Christian Pastor.
I think you could get better information about Christianity from CBS than Foxnews.
scott31312 3 months ago
The only Bigots are Mormons themselves for all of the things they say, do and practice that make them into an elitist group whom thinks they are the chosen ones and better than everyone else! Take a look at everything they believe and practice, it all leads to having to pay and earn their way to the temple and heaven. They all have this mind set that you have to earn your way instead of being saved by grace through faith alone. Mormons are arrogant and pompous bigots!
3Deditor 4 months ago
@3Deditor I guess you should do more research before you start the name calling. Ignorance is pretty ugly and it makes you look stupid. Sounds to me like you are the bigot.
allmetal71 3 months ago
@allmetal71 you're the ignorant fool who chooses to continue to believe the load of crap the Mormon church teaches. You're one of the million who choose to follow blindly as they ask you to only feel and have faith. They rarely if ever tell the members to think logically and do their own research outside the whitewashed teachings within the mormon doctrine. It's because they don't want you to know the hidden truths, that's right million, because there are far less active members than they claim.
3Deditor 3 months ago
@3Deditor Really? The Church urges its members to obtain as much education as possible. Is that ignorance? The church tells its members that they need to verify the truthfulness of all things. Is that ignorance? Better be careful, your bigotry is showing.
allmetal71 3 months ago
@allmetal71 they encourage their members to get a good education outside the church, they also tell you not to educate yourself with other resources outside the Mormon doctrine. That's because they have a lot to hide and are embarrassed about. Better be careful, because you make yourself look like another naive idiot that will believe anything you're told. Let me guess, you were asked to pray if the Book of Mormon was true and if you got a burning in your bosom, It "MUST BE TRUE!!!" MORON!
3Deditor 3 months ago
@3Deditor How do you know what they encourage? Do you attend their church services? Where did you get your information about what they tell their members to do? Was it from going to the church itself or was it from some website or anti-Mormon literature? Better make sure you know your sources because from what I can tell you are the naive idiot. I have at least studied and researched to know. I haven't taken some hearsay tidbits and spouted them as truth.
allmetal71 3 months ago
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3Deditor 3 months ago
@allmetal71 you really are a clueless one who hasn't chosen to look beyond what these manipulative leaders choose to spoon feed the members. I was a member for 20 years! I KNOW the ins and outs of Mormonism! I know a hell of a lot more than most people choose to learn because they're given fear based mormon commandments not to research outside their own doctrine. It's all a phoney pyramid scheme to get peoples money. The true Jesus doesn't require money or temples to share his spirit & kingdom.
3Deditor 3 months ago
@3Deditor Based on your comments I would say that you are clueless and I doubt that you were ever a member. It's easy to state on the internet that you are a member, but nothing you say even rings closely to what is taught in the Church. Members are allowed to educate themselves, search, ponder, and seek truth. Have you read the Bible? Jesus speaks of tithes and offering to further the effort of the Kingdom of God. Christ visited the temple at 12, to do God's business.
allmetal71 3 months ago
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@allmetal71 You're the uneducated one here, and it shows; by how you left out important details why Jesus did God's work at the temple. It was because the people had corrupted it with greed and money! Something thats required to build elaborate temples! Christ destroyed that temple, and rebuilt it in 3 days to cleanse it from sin. He didn't mean literally build a new temple! He meant that HE is the new temple, we can ONLY find joy and happiness through HIM within our own temples, OUR SPIRIT!
3Deditor 3 months ago
Bigotry is just a raw expression of the "fear of the unknown". The evangelicals of today have inherited their closed-minded bigotry (viz., fear of the unknown) from their 1950s predecessors: I know this because I experienced the closed-minded fear of the unknown that was characteristic of the Evangelicals of that very-different era.
And, back then, they despised labels; so, they were "non-denominational": a futile way of escaping labels by labeling themselves "a denomination without a label".
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mormons are anti Christian they say there church is te only true church.
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Slowly, people ARE starting to realize what Fox and other media outlets are all about... It's time for the News to be News again. 3 part solution: 1. Every channel must provide a 1 hour News program WITHOUT COMMERCIALS. 2. News programs should not be rated by any Ratings system. 3. All News Channels live by the same rules, but are "Pay TV" for revenues as opposed to advertising.
Bawbster1 7 months ago in playlist Fox News Bias
@blowflyjones
If the mormon "gospel" was the same as the Christian gospel, we would not be having this discussion - right? Christians believe that there is ONLY ONE God and ONLY ONE universe. We do not beileve that we will become a "God" ourselves. It was Satan's ambition to be equal to God, that is why he was thrown out of Heaven and that is how any Christian can so easily recognize the book of mormon as Satan's work. BTW, do you think Satan would want you to believe in eternal punishment?
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
Everything you just said is completely untrue. The last revelation of Jesus Christ was given to John - it is called the book of Revelation in the Bible. In that book, Jesus said that ANYONE who adds to or takes away from this revelation would lose their salvation. So, ANYONE telling you today that we need to rely on new revelation from Jesus Christ is a liar and not from God. This is exactly what the mormon "church" has taught you.
edadan2009 7 months ago
@edadan2009 Revelations was not the last revelation given. It is the last book in the Bible, but its placement at the end was by the men who canonized the scriptures. They placed the book of Revelations in the back because it was speaking of things in the future. All of the books in the Bible are separate writings. The Bible was not a book that the Prophets and Apostles wrote in, it is a collection of writings that were put together.
allmetal71 3 months ago
@blowflyjones
So then, you believe that Jesus forgot to give us the whole message and came back to Joseph Smith 1900 years later to fill in the missing pieces? Yes, the mormon "gospel" does differ from the one that God gave us 2000 years ago. And, your beliefs also contradict many other scriptures - eternal punishment in hell being just one of them. "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed." (Gal 1:8)
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
You have believed one of the greatest lies in all of human history. The muslim "prophet" Mohammed also was visited by an angel of light that gave him a book of "revelation". Today it is know as the quor'an. "Angels" that come to give us "revelations" that contradict or differ from the existing Gospel of Jesus Christ are not from God. You and your family can only be saved by placing your faith in the real Jesus Christ. I sincerely hope you will. Think about it.
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
Your "religion" contradicts the Bible. That is how we know that it is not from God. And, if it is not from God - who is it from? Your "church" calls God a liar by teaching you that there is no eternal punishment in hell for anyone. Your "church" has the audacity to teach you that you will become a "God" yourself! How delighted Satan must be to see what he has done in the mormon "church"! Repent and believe the ONE and ONLY true God of the ONE and ONLY universe!
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
You will not be able to buy or earn your way into Heaven. Salvation comes through faith in and obedience to Jesus Christ. You claim that you believe God, but you do not.know God and you are not known by Him. There is only ONE God and ONE universe. And, how dare you insult Jesus Christ by claiming that Satan is His brother! Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh - Satan was created by Him. Yes, your "religion" is EVIL! Leave your wicked cult, repent and believe God.
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
If we are ALL God's spiritual children - including Jesus and Satan and, there are billions of flesh and blood "spiritual children" on the earth, then John 3:16 is a lie. For, God did not give his ONLY begotten son - He only gave us ONE of his MANY begotten sons - according to your beliefs. As I said before, you are in a wicked cult. Unless you repent and believe the truth, you will not be saved. Leave the mormon "church" and find a good non-denominational CHRISTIAN church.
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
Your beliefs are a matter of public record - not a great revelation on my part. I do not misunderstand lds "teachings". They are simply Satan's lies and you have believed them. There will be no heaven for you or any other mormon - but only "fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God". But this doesn't concern you because Satan has taught you that everything God says about hell is a lie.
edadan2009 7 months ago
@blowflyjones no they weren't most were deists
PsychoSymantic 7 months ago
@blowflyjones Yeah. 6 months later. I live.
MultiUniv3rsal 7 months ago
@blowflyjones
No, we are not all followers of Jesus Christ. Christianity is monotheistic. You believe that Jesus is one of many saviors. Therefore, you are not a Christian and not of God's house. You believe that you will become a "God" yourself. You believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers - which would make John 3:16 a lie. Satan has thoroughly deceived you. You don't love God - you love the idea of becoming a "God". As I said before, please repent and leave that wicked cult.
edadan2009 7 months ago
Mitt Romney is about to receive an education in Republican bigotry.
similaritiesendhere 7 months ago
I am not against any person - but I strongly oppose the teachings of the LDS "church". It's simply quite amazing to realize that when you are reading the "Book of Mormon", you are reading the writings of Satan himself. If you are a mormon, your are not saved. Please repent and leave that wicked cult. There is only ONE God and only ONE universe. Place your faith in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. He is the only way to the Father in Heaven. Peace.
edadan2009 7 months ago
Look im a staunch conservative and a strong believing LDS member, but hugh Hewitt is wrong. As a mormon I've heard bigotry towards my beliefs from both the right and the left. Simple as that. Right or Left I hear it all the time.
RBV89WR 8 months ago
'September Dawn' shouldn't be to blame for putting Mormons in a negative light - their SciFi dogma does that one - their story of way there are black people, special powers of their underwear, and believing that there were Jews living in America 3000 years ago...... No, they have put themselves in a negative light, but cults do that, that why cults should hold any sway over people's rights.
TheFireHorseUK 1 year ago
KEEP THE MORMONS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE !!!
TheMormonslayer 1 year ago 7
@TheMormonslayer KEEP THE RELIGIOUS OUT OF THE WHITEHOUSE!!!
PsychoSymantic 1 year ago 23
@PsychoSymantic KEEP THE DUMBASSES OUT OF THE WHITEHOUSE
rockkong1 11 months ago
HUGH HEWITT IS HERMANN GÖRINGS NEPHEW!!!!!! GO TO ROMNY CHICKENHAWK SMEAR AND THEN GO TO GOOGLE:COM AND LOOK UP GÖRINGS QUOTES. THEY HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON!!!!!!!
Billyyank1 1 year ago
See I disagree, with the idea that the media should keep anyone no matter how bigoted there position are from equal access to the airwaves. People are intelligent (for the most part) they know trash from truth (for the most part) but censoring a group and denying them equal access to present there opinion is not only immoral and illegal, it is Unconstitutional and should not happen. Even though it is allowed to happen all the time.
ViCe1986 1 year ago
The guy in the video is right. There are a lot of bigots on here.
LDStothecore 1 year ago
Mormons have earned their ridicule. That and they can fuck themselves.
MultiUniv3rsal 1 year ago
@MultiUniv3rsal Christ was ridiculed as well.
majinish 1 year ago
Liberal Viewer says it all....LOL
tyewalkerfm1 1 year ago
anti-mormon bigots? mormonism is a retarded belief (like most religious beliefs), magic underpants and so forth. It should be perfectly reasonable to actually call them morons, should I respect the beliefs of a holocaust denier?
hempartist420 1 year ago
@hempartist420 You really don't know much about Mormonism. Holocaust deniers maintain a deep-seeded hatred toward Jews whereas Mormons, like other Christians, preach charity and kindness toward one's fellow man. Do they always succeed? Of course not. We are all just human. But comparing a faith of kindness to holocaust deniers is unwarranted. By that same token, I could just as easily liken YOU to Rush Limbaugh who believes that all Muslims are evil, hateful terrorists.
andrew042886 1 year ago
@andrew042886 mormons have the same logic and reasoning as holocaust deniers that's all I'm pointing out, but it's taboo to criticize someones religious belief simply because it's a religious one, and by the way Mormonism was a completely racist organization before 1978, not to mention their bigotry against gays and such
hempartist420 1 year ago
@hempartist420 Are you retarded? The only bigot here is you.
While you are at it, look up logical falacies and LEARN before you embarrass yourself by posting this crap. --rolls eyes--
bujin21 1 year ago
@hempartist420 lolz magic underpants
SW3ETsummer 1 year ago
@hempartist420 Gee... another massive logical fallacy from hempartist420. Why am I not surprised.
bujin21 1 year ago
@bujin21 could you explain how that is a logical fallacy, because it isn't. Your not as smart as you imagine yourself to be
hempartist420 1 year ago
Clips .... ? 2:23 mins. of you talking and :29 of clips. Do ewe work for MSDNC's Meitdown w/ Quith Olbermann ?
dontanner232 1 year ago
"to find it on YouTube" is what he said. He doesn't blame "YouTube" but the bigots spouting their bigotry on YouTube. You can disagree with his assessment, but I believe he doesn't blame YouTube. I, as a MORMON, like many aspects of YouTube. It allows us equal opportunity to express our views as well. It is the Internet, many goods things and information found, some I consider "good" and some"evil".
LordPillsbury1959 1 year ago
The Christians and most of the population just don't listen to the newsgroups anymore! I have not listen to the Newsgroups in years and listen to the Christians news groups and the George So call newsgroups are just for the unknowing!
Now about the Mormon having two wifes or not. Who cares. Everybody has the Mormonm Religion pegged and there is no more said! The public knows the truth and tring to change that ideal is like tring to tell the public that Rocks don't roll down hill but up hill !
turtle4aire 1 year ago
@turtle4aire "Everyone has the Mormon Religion pegged." Ummm, no. In fact, the mass majority of the public knows almost nothing about the tenets of Mormonism. To make a claim like that is like saying the public has all Muslims pegged as inherent terrorists.
andrew042886 1 year ago
Mormons demand obediance of women and seal young girls to older men.
TheDirtdemon6 1 year ago
@TheDirtdemon6 Ummmmm.... No we don't. Do some research REAL research.
andrew042886 1 year ago
@TheDirtdemon6 Wrong dumbass. Quote the source of you information. If you can.
Waiting...
bujin21 1 year ago
carribbeandreams2004
Do you watch glen beck?
I do for fun but do you?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 No I am too bust watching Hannity tear up dumbass democraps on his show. I like Hannity and I am glad that he interviewed the FBI agent that infiltrated the homosexual child molester organization that believes oral sex on an 18 month old baby is "ok" NAMLA. I cannot believe the democrats and OBAMA believe that a man who admires a child rapist should be appointed as Safe Schools Czar!
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
LOL you watch to much right wing propaganda, Jennings Admired Harry Hay For Founding The First Gay Rights Group, that's ALL.
He is not a member or supports nambla but the homophobic right tries to picture him as a pedophile.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 LOL - Kevin Jenning, Safe School Czar, wrote the foreword to the book "the Queering of Elementary Education" why would he write a foreword to a book that teaches homosexual teachers to train kindergarten kids that HOMOSEXUALITY is a correct lifestyle choice if he did NOT admire and support pedophiles? Why would President OBAMA and democrats support pedophiles? Because it is popular with LIBERALS.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
What doe pedophiles have to do with homosexuals?
Who supports pedophiles?
wtf are you talking about?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Both are forms of sexual perversion.
bujin21 1 year ago
@bujin21 Please specify...
How does pedophilia = homosexuality
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
um I have never been a democrat I am actually a registered Repbulican and when I was 10 I did a report on Abortion and I am ANTI - Abortion..your views????
TheRoseville5 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 No I do not need Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or losers like Laura Bush and Dick Cheney to tell me what to believe. I have the bible and that is the most important source of info.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
I would rather have a Mormon that a liberal that appoints as Safe Schools Czar a person who admires a child molester and wrote a foreword to a book in 1999 calling for elementary school children to explore their sexual identities, for teachers to incorporate homosexual themes in grades K-5, for discarding a “hetero-normative” approach to education and for “acknowledging children as sexual beings.”
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
I am sick and very stressed about the whole sex ed thing in Kindergarten..that made it a very rough year for me last year. I would rather have a Mormon then a liberal in any govt field then a liberal. So yes I absolutely agree with you 100 fold. I however am deeply concerned for the welfare of all people who do not know Christ and have a personal relationship with Him.
TheRoseville5 1 year ago
Has anyone seen the Sean Hannity interview with the FBI agent that infiltrated the North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)? You should search youTube for Sean Hannity and NAMBLA. The former President of NAMBA Harry Hay was greatly admired by the current OBAMA appointed Safe Schools Czar Kevein Jennings; who by the way wrote the forward to a book about preparing young kids to accept homosexuality titled "the Queering of Elementary Education". Your democratic party at work.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
Anti-Mormon feelings on the LEFT? On the LEFT? The left is against the conservatism amongst Mormons, the right is against the Mormon faith. There is a difference.
willthack13 1 year ago
Fox news is utter tripe.
carlasue88 1 year ago
I know from first hand experience that LDS church leaders lie and deny the truth.
billymeier182 1 year ago
Thats cus more left wingers plain dont like religions, while the right is mostly religions. Its that simple. And on the subject of mormonism. It is a dieing religion, with some pretty fucked up views. My friend got kicked of his mission, for admitting he had sex. So he took the 500 mile flight there and 2 days later they made him return. Talk about some bullshit.
f0rumrr 1 year ago
As a Mormon myself I can attest to the fact that I encounter more anti-Mormonism from left-wingers than right-wingers.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago 2
JRM: "I encounter more anti-Mormonism from left-wingers than right-wingers"
-- I've noticed that, too. Back when I was younger it was the opposite: most anti-Mormons you saw then were the usual right-wing fundie whack-jobs and street preachers raving about Kolob and magic underwear.
But ever since the Mormons stuck their noses into other people's churches, as they did in my California church with Prop 8, average Americans wonder whose church these extremists are going to go after next.
mike2jb 1 year ago
What do you mean 'stuck their noses into other people's churches'? The LDS church hasn't had any involvement in other religious organizations.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
JRM: "The LDS church hasn't had any involvement in other religious organizations."
-- Of course they have.
In 2008 there were 22 weddings in my church. Three of those were for same-sex couples. More were planned until these religious extremists banned same-sex marriage and told my church that we had to alter our marriage sacraments to comply with Mormon doctrine. Same story for over 200 other California churches and synagogues.
I wonder if they plan on telling us who we can baptize next?
mike2jb 1 year ago
Let me guess, your an Episcopalian. The church with no principles.
We did not create or institute the ban on same-sex marriages. California voters decided to put that in place. The church dedicated some resources to the Pro-Prop-8 movement, but it was small in the scope of things.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
"Let me guess, your an Episcopalian."
-- None of yer business. The Episcopalians, Unitarians and United Church of Christ, along with many individual congregations, all welcome same-sex marriages of their members. All three denominations were already ancient in this country at a time when Joseph Smith was still trying to decide which one of his friends' wives to screw next.
Why is it any of your business whether other churches share your "principles" or not, John?
mike2jb 1 year ago
"We did not create or institute the ban"
-- Bull. Hinckley was already plotting this jihad, starting in Hawaii, when you were an infant, John, and he tried mightily to hide the church's involvement at the time. Mormons paid between 55% and 75% of the cost of Prop 8, including some funds directly from the church with a religious tax-exemption.
So much for claiming to allow "all men" to worship "how, where, or what they may."
Pathetic hypocrites.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician wow, judge much?
carlasue88 1 year ago
@mike2jb in 1993 to 1995 I had been an LDS missionary with a view to serve Christ, but when I came to the completion of my two year mission I was stunned to find how strange the Mormon doctrine really was and how much it differed from normal Christianity. after coming home I felt lied to and used, I had so many unanswered questions and no Mormon leader would answer them, especially in regards to polygamy. I even asked my bishop about polygamy in 1993 & he just dodged the question and said no.
billymeier182 1 year ago
billymeier, I'm sorry to hear about your experience, which is out of the ordinary.
Most Mormons I know, including missionaries, do understand their faith and its doctrines.
I have no problem at all with their believing what they like or with their sending missionaries to explain their faith to others. But I will not stand for their using their great wealth, as they did with Prop 8, to force my church and dozens of others to change our marriage sacraments in order to obey Mormon doctrine.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb I think the Mormons are very smart people. I watched a documentary on their language training institute and it is very impressive how quickly the Mormons teach their members a foreign language.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004: "I think the Mormons are very smart people."
-- So do I, for the most part. Most Mormons I know are well-educated and intelligent.
So is Osama bin Laden, by the way. And Osama, like the Mormons, also believes in using force to compel people of other faiths to obey his religious rules. Too bad such smart folks as these have such wretched morals.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb Wow, I hope you're not in any position of power--in fact, I think I would like to make sure the state you reside takes away your drivers license.
Are you really making a linear connection between Mormons and Al Qaeda (Osama bin Laden)?
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78: "Are you really making a linear connection..."?
-- No, I was making a comparison. These are two groups who believe in using force to compel people not of their faith to obey their extreme religious views. As far as I can see, they differ only in their methods. You are free to disagree.
And your disagreement might be more believable if you offered reasons for it instead of childish insults.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb Childish insults? No, I honestly believe you shouldn't operate a vehicle--so no, it wasn't childish because I meant it.
But since you brought it up here are some of your comments on this very thread,
"when Joseph Smith was still trying to decide which one of his friends' wives to screw next.. 'Hinckley was already plotting this jihad' ..'Pathetic hypocrites'...'force my church and dozens of others to change our marriage sacraments in order to obey Mormon doctrine'...
kumug78 1 year ago
@mike2jb
here are some more:
"most anti-Mormons you saw then were the usual right-wing fundie whack-jobs and street preachers raving about Kolob and magic underwear. But ever since the Mormons stuck their noses into other people's churchesaverage Americans wonder whose church these extremists are going to go after next. I wonder if they plan on telling us who we can baptize next?"
So, can you define "believable reasons" I could possibly offer to someone like you?
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 No, I can't think of any believable reasons that distinguish the substance of the Monson's jihad from that of bin Laden. They are both attempts to force onedience to a religious belief upon others and therefore bear the hallmark of religious extremists-- so perhaps there are no reasons to distinguish the two. Perhaps that's why you haven't offered any.
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And if you have an issue with any other statement, you are free to comment. BTW, ARE you planning to tell us who to baptize?
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb "no reasons to distinguish the two"? Honestly, do you realize how stupid you sound? Sorry, I should be nice because I'm pretty sure you're the same 56 year old Mike that is a door greeter at Wal-Mart near my house. You do a great job pulling the carts in, checking peoples receipts, smiling at the customers--one suggestion, you seem to mix up "Welcome to Wal-Mart" and "Thanks for shopping at Wal-Mart". I feel confident that with lots of practice you can get it right!!!
kumug78 1 year ago 2
@kumug78: "Welcome to Wal-Mart", "how stupid you sound", "take away your drivers license" ...
-- Yep. Pretty much as I thought. You have no reasons at all for banding together to remove your neighbors' civil rights and force other faiths to change their sacraments in order to obey the orders of your "prophet."
No reasons at all, except that you're just born better than your neighbors.
No wonder Mormonism is second only to Islam on the list of religions most feared by Americans.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb LOL! Thanks Mikey JB, I needed a good laugh today. I would love to see the source of your fact drawing--like, "Mormonism is second only to Islam on the list of religions most feared by Americans." where did that come from? Lets analyze this: which scholarly group went about asking Americans their list of most feared religions and these two faiths rose to the top? What was the sample pool? Why was the survey conducted? Who funded the survey? When and where was it done?
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78
Hey, kumug, sorry not to answer sooner-- travelling this weekend.
Wow, you asked a LOT of questions, so here goes:
1. "which scholarly group...?" The Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life (pewforum. org).
2. "What was the sample pool?" 3,002 American adults (> age 18) The statisticians say that this size of a pool results in 95% confidence that the sampling error is plus or minus 2 percentage points.
Oops-- to be continued...
mike2jb 1 year ago
@kumug78
(sorry to run on)
3. "Why ...conducted?" As near as I can tell, in the ramp-up to the 2008 political campaigns some in the press publicly questioned whether Romney could win if he got the GOP Pres. nomination in 2008, claiming widespread prejudice towards LDS.
4. "Who funded...?" The Pew Charitable Trusts (pewtrusts. org).
5. "When and where...?" August 1-18, 2007. Nationwide.
To be fair, Mormons were third on the list after Muslims and atheists, if you consider atheism a "faith."
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb Apparently the only one who has read the article you have just quoted is me. Couple things--1, "The Pew Forum" is funded by "The Pew Charitable Trusts" and have a 5 billion dollar endowment; 2, It is not an academic journal (no peer review, limited sample sizes, insufficient sample pool time etc) rather, by self-proclamation, a "think tank" i.e. politically motivated group.
But aside from that, its actually a very good article. You should read the words that accompany the tables---
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 ""The Pew Forum" is funded by "The Pew Charitable Trusts"
-- Uhh-- yes, that would be my answer #4, below, to your various questions.
No, it's not an academic journal. But it's the most extensive set of data on this particular subject I have seen. If you have evidence of some better data, or that the Pew forum uses improper techniques, please provide it.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb The conclusions of this article is that; 1, Romney is religious (which in 2007 was a bad thing because of Bush) 2, Perception of Mormons from 1/3 of all evangelicals "expressed reservations" about voting for a Mormon, conversely, 61% of voters "expressed reservations" in voting for an atheist, 45% for a Muslim, and 16% for an evangelical Christian; 3, 53% of the public hold "favorable views" when asked about Mormons. Hmmm..., kind of the opposite of what you're extrapolating from it.
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 "kind of the opposite of what you're extrapolating from it."
-- Nope. Exactly what I said. Mormons were second only to Muslims among religious groups viewed unfavorably and second to Muslims in groups respondents reservations about voting for.
I personally think most of this is due to old anti-Mormon prejudice, largely from evangelicals. But that was 2007. I wonder how many opinions changed after Mormons meddled in other faiths' sacraments in 2008. My own opinion certainly changed.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb-- I think a direct quote from the article you have quoted sums it up: "64% of college graduates express favorable opinions of Mormons, as do 56% of those with some college experience. But fewer than half of those with a high school education or less (45%) have a positive impression of Mormons."
Due to the exhibition of your extreme ignorance, inability to make a coherent argument, and gross misinterpretation of data--you're writings conclude a lack of academic background (cont.)
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 Ah. Now, in addition to your gay neighbors, you don't like people who lack an academic background. Are you planning to remove their civil rights, too?
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb No, I like everybody. What I loathe is statements made out of ignorance and as such festers hate which you have.
Civil rights...huh??? So we're equating financial contribution to civil rights infringement? Lets use your ridiculous equation to prove again your disconnect with reality: 'yes' prop 8 backers spent $38 million and 'no' backers spent $44 million; 7 million voters voted 'yes' and 6.4 million voters voted 'no'; $5.42 spent per yes vote and $6.87 per no vote; cont--
kumug78 1 year ago
@mike2jb The fact of the matter is you don't like the position of 7,001,084 voters that voted "yes" on proposition 8. It doesn't matter that the population of Mormons in CA in 761,000. Lets just say all of those represent voters (which its only a fraction), there are 6.3 million other voters in the State that actually PASSED the measure--but for you, its much easier to justify your anger towards the "Mormons".
Maybe you should pick up a new hobby because academics aren't your thing.
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 The fact of the matter is that I oppose the hypocritical position of the LDS Church in its use of force to compel other churches and other citizens to obey their religious views.
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"... its much easier to justify your anger towards the 'Mormons'."
-- Of course it is. They paid for this hateful proposition. Without their hard work (oh-- and tons of cash, some of it with a religious tax exemption), Prop 8 would never have passed. Church leaders said as much following the election.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb Below is the LA Times article tracking the money. The Church donated $189,000 to the "Yes" campaign of over $38 million raised. The "no" campaign raised $44 million dollars. The $189,000 was properly filed with the state of CA and is public record. These donations were "in kind" by directive of those who've donated stock to the Church. Again, you have a problem with facts and fact gathering.
kumug78 1 year ago
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@kumug78 Mormons donated over half the cost of the proposition. Here's a spreadsheet that only includes the large (>$1000) donors:
spreadsheets. google. com/pub?key=pe2023SzWXxE8wYX5qWeoIw
(don't forget to remove spaces in the address-- that's how to make YouTube post an address)
mike2jb 1 year ago
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@kumug78 Mormons donated over half the cost of the proposition. Here's a spreadsheet that only includes the large (>$1000) donors:
spreadsheets. google. com/pub?key=pe2023SzWXxE8wYX5qWeoIw
(Don't forget to remove spaces in the address-- without spaces, YouTube won't post.)
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb Youtube would not allow me to post the link. google "la times proposition 8 tracking the money" and you will pull the ad up. Keep in mind, this is the LA TIMES--the ones who ran multiple stories against prop 8.
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 Mormons donated over half the cost of the proposition. Here's a spreadsheet that only includes the large (>$1000) donors:
spreadsheets. google. com/pub?key=pe2023SzWXxE8wYX5qWeoIw
mike2jb 1 year ago
@kumug78 The tax-free Church donation was as you described (but who really knows? --they won't open their books for a fair valuation of Church property, phone banks, satellite broadcast equipment and attorney time donated for the campaign).
Even their handling of that small amount was so shady that they were fined. A biased report of the recent stipulation is here:
disabilities. lds. org/ldsnewsroom/eng/news-releases-stories/background-information-on-the-fppc-s-enforcement-process
mike2jb 1 year ago
@kumug78 "Youtube would not allow me to post..."
Yeah, you have to put spaces after the dots for YT to accept a web address.
BTW, don't forget to remove spaces in the link addresses I just posted, if you choose to look at them.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb that is about a 36% higher amount of money spent per vote; therefore the 'no' campaign infringed upon the civil rights of those that voted 'yes' by 36% thus, the no campaign is attacking the yes campaign's "civil rights" according to your logic.
I don't expect you to understand this because your own facts and logic have completed defeated you but you're still holding to the venomous hatred towards a faith. You could understand the facts but you've refused to do such.
kumug78 1 year ago
@kumug78 "that is about a 36% higher amount of money spent per vote"
-- Yeah, I'm not sure what your point is. Mine is that Prop 8 would not have passed without the work and money of Mormons. Campaign leaders and Church leaders both agreed on this point.
What they did was perfectly legal. And absolutely immoral.
And, returning to my comment that first caught your attention-- it differs only in method from what bin Laden is up to: forcing those of other faiths to follow his rules.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@kumug78 "the no campaign is attacking the yes campaign's 'civil rights'"
-- Please cite an example. Before same-sex marriage was outlawed by prop 8, no one had forced an LDS church or any other to perform a wedding. In my own church, where weddings of our own parishioners were cancelled because of Prop 8, we believe in allowing "all men" to worship "how, where, or what they may."
I undedrstand Mormons used to claim the same belief; what a pity they have abandoned it.
mike2jb 1 year ago
@mike2jb I promised you the last word and will keep my word.
kumug78 1 year ago
@mike2jb You seem to have a hard time saying what you really want to say. I think the message I get is this:
You don't believe those who are uninformed should have such power in an election. Problem is that the same law that protects the "no" voters is the same law that protects the "yes" voters. The "no" campaign outspent the "yes" campaign--the message got out and the voters decided. Being a sore loser will get you nowhere.
Have reverence towards the law because no law=chaos.
kumug78 1 year ago
@mike2jb I've said everything I wanted to; now you can have the final word.
kumug78 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
I also agree with you here....they are very very brilliant people who are positive and dedicated to what they believe in
TheRoseville5 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician I am a non-denominational Christian who affiliates with Evangelicals and Baptists. I would vote for Mitt Romney for President because he is a businessman with government experience and I do not care about his religion. I have no problem with Mormons, Catholics or Muslims whether I agree with them or not on all of the issues. One issue that all TRUE believers in GOD is that homosexuality is wrong.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@JohnRhysMusician
um and which is which I so don't get poltics and who cares isn't it our eternal salvation what really matters?????
TheRoseville5 1 year ago
And also, lets be cleared... I believe the group that Julie of FNC mentioned is not a Mormon group but an Evangelical Protestants group
leSavaii 2 years ago
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rovian9 2 years ago
Seeing the truth in Mormon Doctrine and History and beliefs and rituals will drive any one to be against Mormonism. Mormonism is violent and it's intrinsically polygamous, whether they practice it or not. And they did practice it well into 1915+. This is legally provable. and I have posted it. Hell, Joseph F Smith "Did it" and he wrote in 1905 "Blood Atonement and the origin of Polygamy".He notes that Joe was killed at Carthage BECAUSE of polygamy. So, I posted that, too.
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
You're the prime example of a silly and sadistic old born again who blindly follows his leaders rants and raves against anything he can think of. Born agains have nothing good of their own to teach, they compromise by attacking every other religion they can. I wouldn't put it past you to have been someone on a witch or a vampire hunt and burning innocents at a stake because your pastor told you to. You make me sick.
KyoHashiro 2 years ago
@KyoHashiro I read the Mountain Meadows Massacre and that began a journey leading to truths I wish weren't true. Mormonism is as I stated below. Its very foundation was a simultaneous declaration of all non Mormon worship "anathema" and on it goes. The fruit of Mormonism is the MMMassacre Mormonism and Freemasonry have a secret tow line between them. I could do a number on Catholicism but I haven't the time. Find out what real Christianity is because it isn't Mormonism nor Pope-ish Rome
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
hugh hewitt. His parents must hate him.
MaxwellBennett 2 years ago
glenn beck is a mormon. would be nice to see fox get on his ass. lol
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LOL, I am already on the list. My name happens to match one already on the list. It is a different person of course but it does not matter to the airport screeners who insist on strip searching me and detaining me for hours every time I want to go anywhere.
shatros 2 years ago
I don't like fox news, but that reporter was cute.
freshmeat4k 2 years ago 2
you dont even know what a nazi is so you should shutupstupid
SelinityDawn 2 years ago
also media matters reports American citizens that they don't like to the us government to be put on a terrorist watch list ! watch who yo piss off America ! you could end up on a list
shutupstupid9 2 years ago
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some of the biggest Nazis iv met in my life were liberals ! go figure that's so ironic don't you think?
shutupstupid9 2 years ago
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mjolnir18889 2 years ago
Mormonism is a joke. As is Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and all other forms of man made superstition. Yotube needs more antifaith sentiment. Faith is the mother of hatred.
4kFox 2 years ago
lol well you sound like you have some hate as well. Why dont you show toleration rather than antifaith sentiment?
kayaksta 2 years ago
What would tolerance entail in your opinion? I consider myself a fairly tolerant person. I let people live as they will insofar as it doesnt affect me.
If someone wanted to worship a bottle of ketchup I wouldnt bother disturbing them as long as they kept their illusion private.
4kFox 2 years ago
I agree for the most part. But there is a lot to be learned from the eastern religions. I'm not saying believe in their dogma, but analyze their teachings. Judaism, while i dislike their book, has a lot of smart followers.
laxplayer231 2 years ago
not really you just block out the faith. watch what what you say because you are outnumbered when it comes to people having faith
hanypants 2 years ago
People who believed the Earth was flat used to outnumber those that believed it was round. And at any rate reasonable people hold monopolies in the NAS, NASA, college professorships, medical practices, philosophy departments, and intellectual circles. The only place we dont dominate is in politics, which is going to change sooner or later.
4kFox 2 years ago 2
@4kFox
John 14:6
Jesus said to him,
"I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father Except through Me."
Acts 16:31
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, And you will be saved..."
TheRoseville5 1 year ago
@TheRoseville5 What is NAMBLA? North American Man Boy Love Assn. A group of homsexuals endorsed by the democratic party; that desires to lower the age of sexual consent to 5 years old. Actually they want to remove age on consent laws completely. But I believe age 5 is their highest age. In a Sean Hannity FBI agent interview on YouTube it was said NAMBLA believes oral sex on an 18 month old baby is ok.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004 lol No one supports NAMBLA.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@DSD1v57BG32 Obama and democrats appointed Kevin Jennings as the Safe Schools Czar. Even though they are very aware of the FACT that the Safe School Czar believes in the Queering of Elementary Education and admires former North American Man Boy Love Assn President Harry Hay. NAMBLA believes oral sex on baby boy 18 months old is okay.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
@carribbeandreams2004
"believes in the Queering of Elementary Education"
hahahahahaahahahaha, thats the funniest shit I have heard all day.
Any way we all know that the Safe Schools Czar hasn't done anything in 8 years, our schools suck so much we are failing at failing.
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
@TheRoseville5 Did you see this video on NAMBLA and Obama's appointment of Kevin Jennings to be the Safe Schools Czar who admires a child molester and wrote a foreword to a book in 1999 calling for elementary school children to explore their sexual identities, for teachers to incorporate homosexual themes in grades K-5, for discarding a “hetero-normative” approach to education and for “acknowledging children as sexual beings.” “The queering of elementary education” Your democrats at work.
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
Fox News is what stands in the lexicon under bigotry! they deny the very existence of atheists or even the fact that theyre becoming more and only "discuss" that with ppl who are of the oppinion of Fox! There are so many anti-liberal sentiments on that channel that you think they are against their own bussiness!
drag54on 2 years ago
metallicarox80s needs to go running back to his mummy, i think cause he can't hold his own in a decent argument. does he need a bottle too? or maybe a security blankie---oh wait he already has a security blankie- it's called the mormon church!
yoyin32 2 years ago 2
thats right. angrywritergrrrl doesn't need to waste her time trying to drive common sense into complete idiots like metallicarox80s.
everyone here already knows what a moron he is.
that's mormon without the m. :)~
squiddo80 2 years ago 4
Angrywritergrrrl had it right all along.
u know some people do have a right to be mad at the mormon religion--I speak for all those who had to suffer because of its hateful teachings and its lies.
astronautguy69 2 years ago 4
you got that right thegreatboosh001
who is this idiot who calls himself metallicarox80s?
by just opening his mouth he reveals his amazing gaping stupidity!
mormonh8tr1 2 years ago 3