(Of course, this was a scene from the movie ARARAT which creatively did show how "in character" that actor was, IRONICALLY being interrupted by a child/grandchild of an Armenian survivor of that policy of race extermination/those very killings!)
I just watched the whole scene-- 2 I think. Wow. I forgot how good the movie is. I think everyone expected an ARMENIAN GENOCIDE movie, and were disappointed by it. For example, even the Armenian man in it (Boghosian) called the Armenian self-defense at Van a "rebellion." The DENIAL FROM TURKEY is so pervasive, it seeps into the Armenian psyche.But, man, what a powerful movie. I wish it gets re-released. It has powerful scenes. I just saw DAVID ALPAY in a different film, probably made in CANADA.
Turks are only one people who can massacre babies in their mothers stomach and who can betray and backstab every one who once trusted them even in their most miserable times! Turks also played a BIG ROLE in HITLER's ARMY while massacring the JEWISH people whereas Armenians always helped JEWS and all nations. Turks are known worldwide by their enormeous killer and rubber habits.TRADITION! SO FUCK ALL turks turks Turks are only
Obama worship has gotten to the point where Congressman Cohen actually compared Obama to Christ on the House floor, with the false claim that both were community organizers. Almost as odd, he compared Palin to Pontius Pilate. Apparently an elected governor & a brutal leader of an occupying force who executed Christ are the same. I know that there are Bibles in Tenn. Please, someone hand one to Congressman Cohen.
what quilt are u talkin about....there wasnt such a thing as genocide..what does genocide mean in u guys head?because ottoman empire never killed Armenians as Hitler did in Germany. yes i agree alot of people die around 1915 s but it was WAR?We both had losts. but you cant call that as GENOCIDE.
Let me introduce you to a new book: The Armenian Golgotha. It is from the 1920's and written in Armenian, but translated just this year to English. It is one of many first-hand account of the Armenian genocide, a crime much worse than Hitler's since it led to the death of a 4 thousand year old nation, whereas Hitler's led to the birth of a nation, Israel, and millions in reparations and endless news reports. Turkey--in contrast--denies and denies, and BLAMES the VICTIMS. Turkey is a beast liar!.
The book which you introduce doesn't mean anything at all.u are telling me that book is first-hand account of the Armenian genocide but it is written by Armenian.i am sorry guys but you are way better then Turks when it comes to lie.
Wow! You are ASTOUNDINGLY stupid, as most HOLOCAUST DENIER Turks are. An Armenian Physician in Turkey was written by Clarence Ussher, MD, a Physician who was no at all Armenian. It is an accurate and harrowing account of the Armenian Genocide. It is available in all LARGE libraries, especially schools which were open in the second decade of the 20th century. You can get it from a library loan. Books written by the VICTIM ARMENIAN PEOPLE / SURVIVORS are GEMS. DIARY OF ANNE FRANK is JUNK?
"A second "Midnight Express" attempt and plan, the movie "Ararat", produced by the director Atom Egoyan with contributions from the Armenian lobby and the French government, has caused huge disappointment in both Armenians and Egoyan fans and the impartial viewership after it was shown."
Egoyan NEVER said it was a GENOCIDE film: it was a film about the aftermaths of DENIAL, denial of gayness, denial of genocide, denial of adultery, denial of shameful things.
This is what turks are denying...these people who witnessed the Armenian Genocide in turkey, have written all about it, and most importantly, most of them are not Armenian...This movie was not shown to the large public, because of turks demanded from NATO countries to restrict the wide public show, because they are afraid of the truth and anger of other nations...Atom Egoyan made a great movie, and thanks for posting this video...
The movie painted a good picture of the awful story, but the plot was so convoluted, having a plot within a plot within a plot . . . I saw it and didn't enjoy the whole experience, would have preferred a documentary.
The film is much better on VIDEO watched alone, up to 5 times to finally get the meanings. For iony, look up ARMENIAN GENOCIDE JERUSALEM and listen to none other than CHRISTOPHER PLUMMER narrate a 1980's National Geographic video called JERUSALEM with an ARMENIAN GENOCIDE segments! Yes, that is a way to love the film.
I've listened to that one. I just didn't like all the needless intrigue between stepsister/mother, the gay son, etc. The best part of the movie was the scene in Van being so realistic.
The defense of Van (called "rebellion" in the movie, sadly) was a last-ditch attempt at avoiding annihilation. The movie falsified it, showing Armenians in the mountainside (a fiction from a Sarky Mouradian film Sons of Sassoun (see on you tube) starring Manuel, which Egoyan 100% for sure saw. VAN men were in dug up trenches around the city, NOT joking in mountains, so the scene was false. Plus, the movie was not about the Genocide. People WANTED it to be, so they hated the film.
Egoyan NEVER said it was a GENOCIDE DOCUMETARY film: it was a film about the aftermaths of DENIAL, denial of gayness, denial of genocide, denial of adultery, denial of shameful things. You WANTED a different film. Your 'expectations' were not met. Try the film again.
I didn't connect the "denial" themes, just thought it was putting a story within a story for reasons unknown. Guess that's why I prefer nonfiction; I don't like the ambiguities of historical fiction. By realistic I mean revealing the "horse nailer" villain, and showing the desperation of the villagers, depending on kids to smuggle messages out to Americans, and also showing how prosperous and well-settled the Armenians had been.
If only Christian Bale had been THIS eloquent when someone interrupted his "emotional" scene...
IrishJV 2 years ago
*****
ha ha
Witty comment, LOL
(Of course, this was a scene from the movie ARARAT which creatively did show how "in character" that actor was, IRONICALLY being interrupted by a child/grandchild of an Armenian survivor of that policy of race extermination/those very killings!)
Eloquent indeed, Thanks Irish JV
nudder62 2 years ago
Haha, don't mention it.
I actually LOVE this movie. I uploaded my favourite scene from it myself on my channel. Check it out ;)
IrishJV 2 years ago
I just watched the whole scene-- 2 I think. Wow. I forgot how good the movie is. I think everyone expected an ARMENIAN GENOCIDE movie, and were disappointed by it. For example, even the Armenian man in it (Boghosian) called the Armenian self-defense at Van a "rebellion." The DENIAL FROM TURKEY is so pervasive, it seeps into the Armenian psyche.But, man, what a powerful movie. I wish it gets re-released. It has powerful scenes. I just saw DAVID ALPAY in a different film, probably made in CANADA.
nudder62 2 years ago
Fucking turks idoit go and learn some history turkleri SIZLERI SIKMEK BANA BORC OLSUN LAN. Kolay gelsin
The U.S. doesn't need Turkey. Turkey needs the U.S.
pezevengin evladı sen ermani sikine kurban ol lan yavşak
zograp8 2 years ago
Turks are only one people who can massacre babies in their mothers stomach and who can betray and backstab every one who once trusted them even in their most miserable times! Turks also played a BIG ROLE in HITLER's ARMY while massacring the JEWISH people whereas Armenians always helped JEWS and all nations. Turks are known worldwide by their enormeous killer and rubber habits.TRADITION! SO FUCK ALL turks turks Turks are only
zograp8 2 years ago
yeahhhhh finally Armenians even could said that ' Turks also played a big role in Hitler's army...lol sooooooooo funny?
iamfromworld 2 years ago
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Obama worship has gotten to the point where Congressman Cohen actually compared Obama to Christ on the House floor, with the false claim that both were community organizers. Almost as odd, he compared Palin to Pontius Pilate. Apparently an elected governor & a brutal leader of an occupying force who executed Christ are the same. I know that there are Bibles in Tenn. Please, someone hand one to Congressman Cohen.
AverageVoter 3 years ago
Turkey is guilty of GENOCIDE
nudder62 3 years ago
what quilt are u talkin about....there wasnt such a thing as genocide..what does genocide mean in u guys head?because ottoman empire never killed Armenians as Hitler did in Germany. yes i agree alot of people die around 1915 s but it was WAR?We both had losts. but you cant call that as GENOCIDE.
iamfromworld 2 years ago
Let me introduce you to a new book: The Armenian Golgotha. It is from the 1920's and written in Armenian, but translated just this year to English. It is one of many first-hand account of the Armenian genocide, a crime much worse than Hitler's since it led to the death of a 4 thousand year old nation, whereas Hitler's led to the birth of a nation, Israel, and millions in reparations and endless news reports. Turkey--in contrast--denies and denies, and BLAMES the VICTIMS. Turkey is a beast liar!.
nudder62 2 years ago
The book which you introduce doesn't mean anything at all.u are telling me that book is first-hand account of the Armenian genocide but it is written by Armenian.i am sorry guys but you are way better then Turks when it comes to lie.
iamfromworld 2 years ago
Wow! You are ASTOUNDINGLY stupid, as most HOLOCAUST DENIER Turks are. An Armenian Physician in Turkey was written by Clarence Ussher, MD, a Physician who was no at all Armenian. It is an accurate and harrowing account of the Armenian Genocide. It is available in all LARGE libraries, especially schools which were open in the second decade of the 20th century. You can get it from a library loan. Books written by the VICTIM ARMENIAN PEOPLE / SURVIVORS are GEMS. DIARY OF ANNE FRANK is JUNK?
VANArmenya 2 years ago
Turkey is guilty of GENOCIDE
nudder62 3 years ago
Clarence Ussher was a medical doctor, a physician who had the Holy Spirit in him. The LARK FARM film stars ARSINEE KHANJIAN and it is a must see.
nudder62 4 years ago
A view from a neutral viewer of the film:
"A second "Midnight Express" attempt and plan, the movie "Ararat", produced by the director Atom Egoyan with contributions from the Armenian lobby and the French government, has caused huge disappointment in both Armenians and Egoyan fans and the impartial viewership after it was shown."
insaniz 4 years ago
Egoyan NEVER said it was a GENOCIDE film: it was a film about the aftermaths of DENIAL, denial of gayness, denial of genocide, denial of adultery, denial of shameful things.
nudder62 4 years ago
nice, so they didnt have any clips of the movie?
krbo5 4 years ago
This is what turks are denying...these people who witnessed the Armenian Genocide in turkey, have written all about it, and most importantly, most of them are not Armenian...This movie was not shown to the large public, because of turks demanded from NATO countries to restrict the wide public show, because they are afraid of the truth and anger of other nations...Atom Egoyan made a great movie, and thanks for posting this video...
Gagikangelo 4 years ago 2
The movie painted a good picture of the awful story, but the plot was so convoluted, having a plot within a plot within a plot . . . I saw it and didn't enjoy the whole experience, would have preferred a documentary.
hennypenny247 4 years ago
The film is much better on VIDEO watched alone, up to 5 times to finally get the meanings. For iony, look up ARMENIAN GENOCIDE JERUSALEM and listen to none other than CHRISTOPHER PLUMMER narrate a 1980's National Geographic video called JERUSALEM with an ARMENIAN GENOCIDE segments! Yes, that is a way to love the film.
nudder62 4 years ago
for IRONY (I meant)
nudder62 4 years ago
I've listened to that one. I just didn't like all the needless intrigue between stepsister/mother, the gay son, etc. The best part of the movie was the scene in Van being so realistic.
hennypenny247 4 years ago
The defense of Van (called "rebellion" in the movie, sadly) was a last-ditch attempt at avoiding annihilation. The movie falsified it, showing Armenians in the mountainside (a fiction from a Sarky Mouradian film Sons of Sassoun (see on you tube) starring Manuel, which Egoyan 100% for sure saw. VAN men were in dug up trenches around the city, NOT joking in mountains, so the scene was false. Plus, the movie was not about the Genocide. People WANTED it to be, so they hated the film.
nudder62 4 years ago
Egoyan NEVER said it was a GENOCIDE DOCUMETARY film: it was a film about the aftermaths of DENIAL, denial of gayness, denial of genocide, denial of adultery, denial of shameful things. You WANTED a different film. Your 'expectations' were not met. Try the film again.
nudder62 4 years ago
I didn't connect the "denial" themes, just thought it was putting a story within a story for reasons unknown. Guess that's why I prefer nonfiction; I don't like the ambiguities of historical fiction. By realistic I mean revealing the "horse nailer" villain, and showing the desperation of the villagers, depending on kids to smuggle messages out to Americans, and also showing how prosperous and well-settled the Armenians had been.
hennypenny247 4 years ago
Ahh, yes. I agree. And frankly, the USSHER book itself is a gem. Reading it can Christianize an atheist. A great book!
AstarjianBookFan 4 years ago