Ravi is a pimp not a pastor he traveled half his life for what telling us about his life and his family. If you ain't talking about. God you ain't talking about nothing
Ravi is a pimp not a pastor he traveled half his life for what telling us about his life and his family. If you ain't talking about. God you ain't talking about nothing
o woops i thot that said "got it"...or something...in that case lemme rephrase...you are asserting all theists are idiots for claiming to know something while u assert that God did NOT do it...thats still an assertion that you have to prove...good luck..."o but i dont claim to know"...really? you seem pretty sure of urself
First of all, he is from India. Not every country has this law.
Secondly, chances are, your parents are probably between 10 - 20 years apart in age. A 4 year difference of age in marriage is very rare and more healthy. As you should know by now, woman are most able to have healthy children at a younger age... So your parents were probably in their 50s when you were born?
Please tell me you're another of the spiteful anti-theists. Your comment only shows your own sickness.
How could you say something like this?.. On second thought it's no surprise. I bet you also want our government to provide everything for you because you think businessmen are evil monopolists... Yet you're willing to give those same human beings a monopoly on your life.
For the sake of the rest of us, either start using your brain properly or stop voting.
" And that is exactly what you want. Am i wrong?"
Wherever did I ever say I want to have anybody have a "monopoly" on my life? You're just making that up.
Human beings are social animals, so they have morals and values in order for them to live together and ensure the survival of their societies. That's all there is to it.
Now start using your brain, instead of listening to charlatans like Zacharias.
@MomoTheBellyDancer Hitler killed millions of Jews to rid the world of "Jewry" so that society would not be influenced by them. If there is no God, what Hitler did was not really "wrong" because it was done in order to help society. Without God, everything is permitted. So Jesus' morals along with Hitlers become equivalent if there is no God, because there is no moral standard.
Wow, it didn't take you too long before to draw the Hitler card. I hope you realize Hitler was a Christian and that the antisemitism of the Nazis was inspired by centuries of antisemitism of the various churches in Germany.
Also, the actions of the Nazis were extremely detrimental to German society. For one, Germany went into a war in which it got almost devastated. My point still stands.
@MomoTheBellyDancer Wow, it didn't take you to use the "we're just animals that are nice to each other for survival" card. If you read any history about Hitler, he really wasn't a Christian. I hope YOU realize that the Nazi's also murdered millions of Christians. I could also use Stalin (23M killed), Pol Pot (2M killed), Mao (60M killed) etc.
Regardless, you obviously didn't understand the point I was trying to make about objective morals. That without God, there is no moral standard.
"it didn't take you to use the "we're just animals that are nice to each other for survival" card. "
Are you claiming human beings are not social animals?
"If you read any history about Hitler, he really wasn't a Christian."
Cue the bagpipes!
"I could also use Stalin (...), Pol Pot (...), Mao (...) etc"
And none of them killed because they disliked a certain group out of religious reasons. Hitler did, seeing how antisemitism is a typical Christian thing.
Even with a god, morals would still be subjective, since it would be simply that god's opinion. Besides, the Christian god shows very amoral behavior in the Bible. Or are you one of those that simply claim that anything god does is good? If so, how can you claim he follows any moral standard?
@MomoTheBellyDancer No, it would be said to be part of God's nature. All good things are good not because God thinks so, but because it is part of his nature.
@MomoTheBellyDancer Amoral? Genocide? I'm not even talking about God from the Bible. You think people didn't contemplate the existence/nature of God before the Jesus? As for evidence, how about the existence of the universe! The probability that this all just happened out of chance is like 1 in a trillion to the 10th power. Before the universe there was no space/time/matter, so scientifically how can one test what is not material? This job is for the philosopher.
". Before the universe there was no space/time/matter, so scientifically how can one test what is not material?"
So you say we should just throw hands in the air every time we don't know something and shout "GODDIDIT". With that attitude you wouldn't even have the computer you're typing on now.
"This job is for the philosopher."
Philosophy has a very lousy track record when it comes to finding out how nature works.
Actually, it's not. That's why it is a good idea to gain as much knowledge as you can, instead of just claiming to know the truth and just leave it as that, as Zacharias does.
What Ravi says is good, but it does not mean the Bible should be taken literally. Personal truths are of different qualities than scientific. Ultimately peer review removes the self-centered views of individuals, and leaves that which is more true - so you could say that science is "godly" :)
The nature of the universe is transformation, not creation. The painter transforms thoughts and paints into a painting. @Big Bang is not nothing. It is the oldest time that we can describe.
@vdizhoor I agree that not everything in the Bible should be taken literally. But there are large portions of the bible which are historica. Peer review does not make something absolute though, which is what I was trying to say. Peer review by evil people brings about evil acts. Who's to say they are really wrong if there is no absolute? Right, but before the Big Bang there was no matter, time or space. Meaning that something which transcends time, matter and space created the universe.
@MomoTheBellyDancer So you say we should just throw hands in the air every time we don't know something and shout "GODDIDIT"? why not...thats what youre doing... on one hand you assert that theists are idiots for claiming to know anything then on the other hand you claim to know that we cant know anything... and the point is it cant be tested scientifically...not that it cant be supported by evidence. science is not all...not even close.
@MrCharrrles if theres one thing we can be sure of its that God does not change his laws. He has allowed us to disregard some of the old testament laws because Jesus Christ fulfilled the law.
That is not true because Muslims don't eat pork but I find it a great pleasure.They believe it a sacred pleasure I don't.What about the sacred pleasure of a priest not to enjoy a woman,this jeopardizes another person if I enjoy a woman in marriage? Nonsense over thinking!
how can hindu telling moslims, christians and jewish people about there religion we all know that hindu worship of cow , rat , elephant, monkey and drink cow piss.
Any pleasure that jeopardizes the sacred right of another is an illegitamate pleasure.What is the sacred right of another.?That is not an objective statement..There are many holy pleasures that effect the sacred right of others.If the ideal is God some prefer to esteem one day above another and others consider everyday alike.
@dogooda12 Thank you for your sarcasm it was really intelligent. Of course you leave me no response but to pout because I don't know what I'm talking about.Remarks like that are so clever and thought out you leave me speechless. Not to mention the pleasure you got from it was legitimate. Though wrong.The sacred right of another stepped upon by the illegitimate pleasure of a critic.But I'm just trying to be clever.
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Ravi is a pimp not a pastor he traveled half his life for what telling us about his life and his family. If you ain't talking about. God you ain't talking about nothing
AHMEDBULAXUBEY 2 months ago
Ravi is a pimp not a pastor he traveled half his life for what telling us about his life and his family. If you ain't talking about. God you ain't talking about nothing
AHMEDBULAXUBEY 2 months ago
@AHMEDBULAXUBEY: And you've come to this very conclusive (and rash) assumption based on one two minute and nineteen second video?
brennan2185 1 month ago
o woops i thot that said "got it"...or something...in that case lemme rephrase...you are asserting all theists are idiots for claiming to know something while u assert that God did NOT do it...thats still an assertion that you have to prove...good luck..."o but i dont claim to know"...really? you seem pretty sure of urself
jdaddy2323 4 months ago
You're an idiot...
First of all, he is from India. Not every country has this law.
Secondly, chances are, your parents are probably between 10 - 20 years apart in age. A 4 year difference of age in marriage is very rare and more healthy. As you should know by now, woman are most able to have healthy children at a younger age... So your parents were probably in their 50s when you were born?
Please tell me you're another of the spiteful anti-theists. Your comment only shows your own sickness.
knowwaie 6 months ago
There are no sacred rights. All rights are given by human beings to other human beings.
MomoTheBellyDancer 8 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer so what your saying is that you are completely dependant on other human beings to give you your rights?
MrCharrrles 8 months ago
@MrCharrrles
"you are completely dependant on other human beings to give you your rights?"
That's how the world works. It's still better than being dependent on some supernatural being that could change its mind on a whim.
MomoTheBellyDancer 8 months ago
How could you say something like this?.. On second thought it's no surprise. I bet you also want our government to provide everything for you because you think businessmen are evil monopolists... Yet you're willing to give those same human beings a monopoly on your life.
For the sake of the rest of us, either start using your brain properly or stop voting.
knowwaie 6 months ago
@knowwaie
"I bet you also want our government to provide everything for you because you think businessmen are evil monopolists"
That does not follow at all from what I am saying. Stop spouting nonsense.
"et you're willing to give those same human beings a monopoly on your life."
I am not giving anybody a monopoly, be they human or supernatural.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
It does follow from what you're saying.. And that is exactly what you want. Am i wrong?
knowwaie 6 months ago
@knowwaie
" And that is exactly what you want. Am i wrong?"
Wherever did I ever say I want to have anybody have a "monopoly" on my life? You're just making that up.
Human beings are social animals, so they have morals and values in order for them to live together and ensure the survival of their societies. That's all there is to it.
Now start using your brain, instead of listening to charlatans like Zacharias.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Hitler killed millions of Jews to rid the world of "Jewry" so that society would not be influenced by them. If there is no God, what Hitler did was not really "wrong" because it was done in order to help society. Without God, everything is permitted. So Jesus' morals along with Hitlers become equivalent if there is no God, because there is no moral standard.
I just used to my brain to write that
TheAxis456 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
"Hitler"
Wow, it didn't take you too long before to draw the Hitler card. I hope you realize Hitler was a Christian and that the antisemitism of the Nazis was inspired by centuries of antisemitism of the various churches in Germany.
Also, the actions of the Nazis were extremely detrimental to German society. For one, Germany went into a war in which it got almost devastated. My point still stands.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Wow, it didn't take you to use the "we're just animals that are nice to each other for survival" card. If you read any history about Hitler, he really wasn't a Christian. I hope YOU realize that the Nazi's also murdered millions of Christians. I could also use Stalin (23M killed), Pol Pot (2M killed), Mao (60M killed) etc.
Regardless, you obviously didn't understand the point I was trying to make about objective morals. That without God, there is no moral standard.
TheAxis456 6 months ago
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@TheAxis456
"it didn't take you to use the "we're just animals that are nice to each other for survival" card. "
Are you claiming human beings are not social animals?
"If you read any history about Hitler, he really wasn't a Christian."
Cue the bagpipes!
"I could also use Stalin (...), Pol Pot (...), Mao (...) etc"
And none of them killed because they disliked a certain group out of religious reasons. Hitler did, seeing how antisemitism is a typical Christian thing.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
"without God, there is no moral standard. "
Even with a god, morals would still be subjective, since it would be simply that god's opinion. Besides, the Christian god shows very amoral behavior in the Bible. Or are you one of those that simply claim that anything god does is good? If so, how can you claim he follows any moral standard?
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer No, it would be said to be part of God's nature. All good things are good not because God thinks so, but because it is part of his nature.
TheAxis456 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
"All good things are good not because God thinks so, but because it is part of his nature. "
So being an amoral, genocidal bastard is part of god's nature? It's a relief that there's no shred of evidence this god exists, or we'd all be fucked.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer Amoral? Genocide? I'm not even talking about God from the Bible. You think people didn't contemplate the existence/nature of God before the Jesus? As for evidence, how about the existence of the universe! The probability that this all just happened out of chance is like 1 in a trillion to the 10th power. Before the universe there was no space/time/matter, so scientifically how can one test what is not material? This job is for the philosopher.
TheAxis456 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
"I'm not even talking about God from the Bible."
Then what are you talking about? Nobody can even agree on a standard definition of what this god should be, making it a highly nebulous concept.
"The probability that this all just happened out of chance is like 1 in a trillion to the 10th power. "
Using statistics in this senseless manner is highly misleading. The chance of past events occurring is always 1 to 1. This also includes our universe.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
". Before the universe there was no space/time/matter, so scientifically how can one test what is not material?"
So you say we should just throw hands in the air every time we don't know something and shout "GODDIDIT". With that attitude you wouldn't even have the computer you're typing on now.
"This job is for the philosopher."
Philosophy has a very lousy track record when it comes to finding out how nature works.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer What is your theory then? There was nothing and then out of nothing exploded something?
TheAxis456 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
"What is your theory then? "
I don't know. That's good enough for me. I'd rather accept that I lack knowledge than that I make up answers that are wrong.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer ignorance is bliss... :)
9739460341 6 months ago
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@9739460341
"ignorance is bliss.."
Actually, it's not. That's why it is a good idea to gain as much knowledge as you can, instead of just claiming to know the truth and just leave it as that, as Zacharias does.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@TheAxis456
What Ravi says is good, but it does not mean the Bible should be taken literally. Personal truths are of different qualities than scientific. Ultimately peer review removes the self-centered views of individuals, and leaves that which is more true - so you could say that science is "godly" :)
The nature of the universe is transformation, not creation. The painter transforms thoughts and paints into a painting. @Big Bang is not nothing. It is the oldest time that we can describe.
vdizhoor 5 months ago
@vdizhoor I agree that not everything in the Bible should be taken literally. But there are large portions of the bible which are historica. Peer review does not make something absolute though, which is what I was trying to say. Peer review by evil people brings about evil acts. Who's to say they are really wrong if there is no absolute? Right, but before the Big Bang there was no matter, time or space. Meaning that something which transcends time, matter and space created the universe.
TheAxis456 5 months ago
@MomoTheBellyDancer So you say we should just throw hands in the air every time we don't know something and shout "GODDIDIT"? why not...thats what youre doing... on one hand you assert that theists are idiots for claiming to know anything then on the other hand you claim to know that we cant know anything... and the point is it cant be tested scientifically...not that it cant be supported by evidence. science is not all...not even close.
jdaddy2323 4 months ago
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@jdaddy2323
"you assert that theists are idiots for claiming to know anything "
You're twisting my words. I claim they are idiots for claiming to know something they don't know.
"you claim to know that we cant know anything"
No, I claim that the only real way of knowing things is by testing ideas against the real world.
"the point is it cant be tested scientifically"
Theistic claims can't, since they're unfalsifiable.
MomoTheBellyDancer 4 months ago
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@TheAxis456
"Without God, everything is permitted. "
You mean, the god who ordered his people to slaughter all men, women and children of neighboring tribes? THAT god?
"I just used to my brain to write that "
Only in the sense that it enabled you to string together senseless piffle.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
@MrCharrrles if theres one thing we can be sure of its that God does not change his laws. He has allowed us to disregard some of the old testament laws because Jesus Christ fulfilled the law.
MrCharrrles 8 months ago
justin beiber
mattikobe 1 year ago
That is not true because Muslims don't eat pork but I find it a great pleasure.They believe it a sacred pleasure I don't.What about the sacred pleasure of a priest not to enjoy a woman,this jeopardizes another person if I enjoy a woman in marriage? Nonsense over thinking!
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1 Whats your point? You are arguing something that is not even being raised in this video.
dogooda12 1 year ago
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how can hindu telling moslims, christians and jewish people about there religion we all know that hindu worship of cow , rat , elephant, monkey and drink cow piss.
ohwahwah 2 years ago
Any pleasure that jeopardizes the sacred right of another is an illegitamate pleasure.What is the sacred right of another.?That is not an objective statement..There are many holy pleasures that effect the sacred right of others.If the ideal is God some prefer to esteem one day above another and others consider everyday alike.
polopowers1 2 years ago
@polopowers1 I don't know if your trying to be clever? But you really don't know what your talking about.
dogooda12 1 year ago
@dogooda12 Thank you for your sarcasm it was really intelligent. Of course you leave me no response but to pout because I don't know what I'm talking about.Remarks like that are so clever and thought out you leave me speechless. Not to mention the pleasure you got from it was legitimate. Though wrong.The sacred right of another stepped upon by the illegitimate pleasure of a critic.But I'm just trying to be clever.
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1 No sarcasm intended. just an observation. Your reply is perplexing. Ravi's premise is quite simple.
dogooda12 1 year ago