@ZeoJeren In the movie the only time Kim called on Tommy for a reason other then worry was when she was stuck in the thingies ribs and the other one was trying to get her
@PRgirlsrock Well, to me this is just how everyone sees things, differently and if she thinks or just joked about it, that's just a small detail. I guess its just ok to disagree because that's how we all work. And thanks about the Dana avie, I have a great friend who did it for me and to get this out there in my book no one will ever top Dana, she's my favorite Pink and yes very underrated.
@PRgirlsrock I totally agree with you about the fact that Kim had experience whereas Kat came in without none or for that matter any form of agile ability like Kim with her gymnastics. On the other hand, I believe Kim's character was made to depend to much on Tommy, this like I said is my opinion, because Jason was no longer there, but in this case it became cuter as they were a couple and no one thought too much of it. Kat was a ranger without having to rely too much on Tommy.
I'm getting tired of people assuming that everyone dislikes Kat because A) She replaced Kimberly or B) She ended up with Tommy. That may be true from some, but many of us, generally just found her to be a flat and uninteresting character. The show would have us believe she was little miss perfect. Perfect grades, perfect home life, perfect future mother, perfect athlete, etc. etc. Adam and Tanya teased her about being perfect at everything. Catherine even said it. She was boring to me. (cont).
When she wasn't saying "It's all my fault," she was always being rewarded for something. It still ticks me off she didn't bother to help out with the labor for her project in Another Brick in the Wall. Even had the nerve to stay behind to take pictures, of the work everyone else did. I'm supposed to buy this girl could train a police dog by herself, and that fast? PLEASE! Not to mention someone so insecure would be that good at dangerous sports, and yet let some girl make her watch her weight.
She was no everyday girl. In Zeo, her hair was always done up, she always had more makeup and fancier (less girl next door like in MMPR) looks. It's like she had to be "perfect" and so did her looks. Kim was the one wearing the variety of outfits- more often than not in a pair of boots or sneaks. She dressed simple @ dances even. Her hairstyles were simple. She even wore caps to school. She wasn't perfect in everything she did, and she didn't always have things go her way in the end unlike Kat.
One last thing. One thing I loved about Kim is that she was consistent. We actually see a progression in her qualities as a person and as a ranger. She consistently practiced her main craft - gymnastics. She didn't have some random new extreme skill (performed by a stunt double no less) just pop up out of nowhere. She had believable skills other things like singing, guitar, and art. I love her go-get-em attitude, as well her down-to-earth personality. The small badass that could!
I will say this, I clearly remembered Kim calling out for Tommy far more than Kat ever did. But Kim kicked butt, obvisoulsy, or else she wouldn't of been a ranger. As for Kat she did call on Tommy a few times, that I remember and I know becasue for years I had bee hearing about this and I went through all of Zeo and no, believe me she didn't. As for her character being weak, to me, Kat represents something they hadn't been able to get done with the Pink ranger, flaws like normal girls have them.
@ZoeJeren What was Kim calling out to Tommy for? Was it out of worry for him or was she calling for help? I can almost guarantee you that most of the time, she was calling to him out of worry. Kat was calling to him for help most of the time. As for having "flaws", are you implying that Kim was perfect? Because she wasn't.
@Devotedlamb19 She wasn't, but she wasn't relatable, to me, to the everyday girl like Kat was, but really I love them both, I just don't like to see the hate for either one, I just like to see their strengths and weaknesses and not everything be about the fact that Kim was replaced by Kat.
@PRgirlsrock Right! Kim saved the day numerous times. She had confidence for days, whereas Kat lacked it. I mean it's a crying shame, someone who claimed being a power ranger made her more confident (which is BS because the girl was panicking like crazy before Tommy saved her), could let one, obviously jealous bimbo lead her into starving herself after 2 years as a ranger! Kat was just fragile as hell. Even her ankle suffered. It's actually hilarious she became a dancer.
Kimberly sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She was way to girly to be a ranger, she was a weak fight always wanting Tommy's help and she wasn't as hot as Kat. Kat is the best formy opinion.
@mysticplatnium Kim and Kat were both "girly" and Kim was NOT weak. She was fast, agile, confident and pretty damn strong for a 5'2 girl. And as for wanting Tommy's help, Kim called for Tommy's help maybe half-a-dozen times throughout the 136 episodes she was on the show. Kat called for Tommy more than that in Zeo alone. Kat was completely dependent on Tommy throughout Zeo and much of Turbo. She was the worst female ranger in the series. Kim destroys Kat.
@mysticplatnium Your response doesn't surprise me. It's the typical response of a retard who has nothing valid to back up their ridiculous claims with.
LOL is my exact reaction to your response. Kat was calling for Tommy's help before she even became a ranger. Kat only had ONE successful solo fight, the other times = bailed out. Kat lacked in confidence and made some dumb decisions that put herself and others in danger. Aside from calling on Tommy (even in back to back episodes) and needing him to bail her out, she also had to be saved by a dog, Jason and Auric. A ranger for 2 yrs and we hear this, "Tommy get me down!" LMAO!
@mysticplatnium Kimberly bailed out her teammates (multiple times) in every season she was in, Kat only did this once, and it was right before she got the boot. Kim had confidence, held her own (even without powers), and could pull through extreme pressure. She defended the planet by herself, while sick with the flu. She knew when to communicate serious threats (before they got worst). It's really no wonder Lord Zedd wanted her to be his queen.
If I had to chose, Kim would be the best for me, but why does everyone have to bash Kat so much? She was a great character and ranger as well. They are both played by fantastic actresses! You can have a personal preference, but speaking ill of a character and/or actress is just stupid.
Now kat dose not I mean dose not compare to kim she did not fight like kim did. Kim did here owen stunts and fighting but kat did not. kat is fine but thats it.
@Devotedlamb19 yes! they are japanese suit actors in american scenes. Toei had send a group of suit actors to US, to make better battle scenes in MMPR3, Zeo and Turbo.
FYI - The original cast all knew martial arts except - Amy Jo Johnson (Kimberly Hart), Catherine Sutherland (Katherine Hillard), David Yost (Billy Cranston), Karan Ashley (Aisha Campbell), and Nakia Burrise (Tanya Sloan). They had to use stunt doubles for certain fight scenes that they were not skilled enough to perform.
They, along with many of the actors in the future shows to follow did not do all of their own stunts.
@dsaubinable AJJ and David Yost were skilled gymnasts so I believe they did all their own stunts, unless you can prove otherwise. Morphed, I agree that stunt doubles were probably used, but unmorphed, I don't believe it. It makes no sense. This "they weren't skilled enough in martial arts to do their own stunts" is a lot of crap.
@Devotedlamb19 all of the originals did their own stunts for a short while but even the ones skilled in martial arts and the gymnasts both started using stunt doubles later simply because it was just getting to often and to dangerous to keep doing their own stunts as if any one got hurt they would have to stop fliming for a while which for a weekly tv show is detremental and most of the morphed stuff is stock footage from japan sentai
@dsaubinable The cast from the MMPR era has said many times now they did their everything outside of their costumes (even Amy) aside from a few instances. These instances (from the tv show) being Thuy's stunt double in s2 after her injury, Rocky/Adam/Aisha gliding in the air on rollerblades wasn't them, and neither was Kat diving into the pool, riding a wave, nor when she, Tommy and Billy went skiing- all of which weren't civilian form fights.
omg. Neither of the girls are fighting in ranger form. It's mostly sentai footage with some shots of US stunt doubles! This argument is pointless. lmao
@dsaubinable First of all, it's all US footage and secondly, Katherine is morphed in all her clips while Kim is unmorphed. You are clearly misinformed.
@Devotedlamb19 Do you really think I can't tell the difference between UNMORPHED and RANGER FORM?
Kim and Kat had "moments" of fighting time that were edited and combined with STUNT DOUBLES both in and out of ranger form. Not once were ANY of the actors fighting in Ranger form. Sorry to burst the imagination bubble but most action scenes from all power ranger shows used stunt doubles.
The actors (minus Tommy, Adam and a few others) were not as skilled in martial arts as everyone thinks.
@dsaubinable Maybe in ranger form, I could believe that stunt doubles were used, but unmorphed, I don't think so. In the original Power Rangers, all the actors did their own stunts.
@Devotedlamb19 ...and when the actors were in their ranger suits with helmets off, it was only an intended distraction for the fans, by the producers, to convince younger audiences that they were in the ranger suits when in battle.
I asked my older brothers the other day what they thought of kimberly from power rangers, they said she was their favorite and she was hot, when I asked them what they thought of kat, they said "who the hell is kat?"
lol that should tell you that kat was nothing more than a replacement, and only got where she was through kim leaving the show
i'd actually argue that Kat was more intelligent. Do you remember Kat's idea in Masterville and the Metallic armor and in another brick wall in the wall and in that Zeo episode where she convinced Tommy of who the good guys were? Kim never really thought outside the box like Kat did.
@ehoss07 intelligence can win in a fight. If not for that the Rangers would have lost countless times. As for skills I would give Season 3 Kim over season3 Kat BUT Turbo Kat might have been better. She cure was more powerful as the Turbo rangers were an upgrade of the Zeo ones who were an upgrade of the originals.
@ehoss07 I'm sorry, Turbo Kat better than Kimberly at which point? Certainly not seasons 1 or 2. Season 3, maybe, but overall, Kim is still vastly superior to Katherine as a fighter.
@ehoss07 Katherine was intelligent but I never found her to be that smart of a fighter. You saw Kimberly figure out Guitardo and Terror Toads weaknesses on her own and destroy them. In "another Brick in the Wall" it was Zordon and Billy asking Katherine about something she had just learned in class. Turbo Kat was improved but she was still not a strong fighter, she got by on basic martial arts skills and still struggled more then the others.
@BLS0817 I thought it was Zordon who told Billy and Kim to go for the noze...not their idea. If I remember correctly it wasn't as much Kimberly as much as it was being the pink ranger. It seemed like everytime Kim did something to a monster morphed it was thanks to the power bow. In comparison the other weapons of the rangers did close to nothing on their own( minus the sword). The power bow was overpowered. When Kat came on the rangers didn't really use their weapons anymore.
@ehoss07 Kimberly showed she was a hell of a fighter against the putties alone and plenty of times she got a kick on a monster. The power bow was a great tool and it did help her take out a few monsters but in regards to Kat you look at her against Digster and Acherina and she just doesn't have the fast reactions and moves that pinks like Cassie, Jen and Dana did. She was a mediocre pink ranger compared to others even Disney ones like Vida .
@BLS0817@ehoss07 I've seen that video it's good. It's also good that you acknowledge that there were other great pink rangers. For anyone who doesn't think so they should do themeselves a favor and watch Jen. Anyways, you can't use the x struggled vs y arguement IMO b/c it never makes sense. For example, Tommy owned Goldar in green no more unmorphed than was basically defeated in a later episode as the white ranger. This sounds like a who "looks better argument" and that too can be deceiving.
@BLS0817 I have nothing against Kimberly it just bothers me that people put her on a peddle stool and act like she is the only pink ranger worth a dime. When in reality their were other great ones (Jen, Cassie, and yes even Kat at times).
@ehoss07 First of all, it's pedestal, and secondly, of course there were other great Pink rangers. Jen and Cassie like you said, Kendrix, and Dana too, but Katherine is easily the weakest pink ranger in the whole series. Kim was one of the strongest and for anyone to suggest that Katherine beats or even matches her in the fighting department is absolutely preposterous.
Before being a ranger Kim was well trained in gymnastics.
Before being a ranger Kat was well trained in...swimming.
Obviously Kim was initially the better fighter. (Just look at the fight between the two of them in the Turbo movie) However I will admit that Kat finally started kicking all kinds of ass in Turbo.
@WhitneyElizabethH It's called Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and it was on from 1993-1995. Loved it as a kid and still do now. Anyway, more to the point, who do you think won?.
Kimberly is SOO the crane she is super flexible and graceful. Kat should be some kinda jellyfish.I'm not like on the down side of Kat but honestly I've always been a Kimberly fan. She rules! :D
Kimberly was a better fighter, but Kat did so much within one three-part episode that proved her to be a great addition to the team. Kat broke an evil spell that was put on her, she was willing to risk her life to save Ninjor, she got the Pink power coin back, and she overcame her fear of water to help Kimberly overcome her fear of the balance beam. Yes, Kimberly was a better fighter, but Kat was just as good a Ranger in her own way.
Actually, the truth is that it's all personal opinion.
@mysteryperson1976 Very true Katherine was never going to be known as a fighter because she wasn't a fighter. She didn't have that background like Trini, Aisha and even Kimberly did. She never became great but she did vastly improve from MMPR to Turbo. I think Katherine benefited from being surrounded by a veteran team from her first day, I just don't know how well she would have done thrown into being a ranger on a team of rookies.
@BLS0817 I think that some of the real highlighting points for her were "Another Shade of Pink" where she did all that I mentioned in my previous comment, and "Another Brick in the Wall," one of her first MMPR episodes, and "Sowing the Seas of Evil," where she makes a huge sacrifice from her quest for the Zeo Crystal, to help an old woman out. Kimberly was the one who picked Kat and said that Kat would be an amazing Power Ranger. I think Kimberly really knew what she was talking about.
@PrinceTrexus The reason for that is this video was to show that even unmorphed, Kim was a better fighter than Kat. You would think that since she's morphed, Kat would have more strength and speed due to the activation of her powers, but Kim beats her in both areas, even without her powers.
I think kat has always been and will be better than kim, no matter how many forms of combat or anything it will always be better Kim always uses the gym to fight and actually a bit tired and bored .... kat also formed a most beautiful couple with tommy.
@theparenttrapfan1 Gymnastics certainly made her a better fighter when compared to Kat's ballet. Kim was faster, stronger, more agile, and had better technique. Kim kills Kat.
@theparenttrapfan1 Well, that explains your unfounded hate for Kim. If Zeo was so great, why is MMPR the only series remembered by the general public? Because it's the only one that was truly great.
@Devotedlamb19 What's worst is that Catherine Sutherland isn't even fond of Zeo. All of the actors either talk about MMPR only or Turbo. Zeo was so good that it continued to make fans quit the show, and they resorted to hiring an 11 yr old to try and gain new fans! LMAO!
I'm just putting it out there since people don't seem to get it. The cogs, like the tengas only required morphing within the context of the plots of their shows. Tengas beat down cogs, so that automatically made them less than they were said to be. In Forever Red, ever ranger, including two who were in zeo, beat down Cogs like any other foot soldier. Cogs were surpassed with each season, esp In Space where it was machines again, and they too were defeated unmorphed. So the footage is fair game.
As far as the defensive vs offensive. Yes, both can be effective, but if not careful one is easily overwhelmed and switching tactics when necessary is always a better choice. Kim's advantage was that she had both good offense/defense. just watch her various fight scenes. For example, she used gymnastics for both forms of fighting. Often mixing both styles at once. Kat never really had a good offense, and was occasionally seen being overwhelmed in both her unmorphed and morphed forms.
@Devotedlamb19 Precisely. I laugh at comments suggesting the rangers would just switch their fighting styles. I'm sorry but you don't just switch a martial arts style. If this was the case then why did Tommy and others always use their same martial arts skills? Even here. You see Kim taking out SUPER putties using the same techniques she had with regular ones. I'm actually glad Kim wasn't in Zeo because the morphed footage for Pink was easily the weakest. Course I always said # was based skills
1. Kat only 'needed' to morph because the Cogs were a lot stronger than Putties. NONE of the Rangers could fight Cogs unmorphed. Had Kim still been there she would have had to morph too.
2. Being more a more 'aggressive' fighter doesn't make you better. A defensive style can be just as effective, it's just different.
1)Jason didn't seem to have much trouble with them unmorphed in "A Golden Homecoming" and the red rangers in "Forever Red" torn an army of them apart unmorphed.
2) But as a ranger I feel like you should have a more aggressive fighting style, time is of the essence.
@BLS0817 1) "Forever Red" is full of plot holes. I wouldn't consider that a valid source of evidence. "A Golden Homecoming" is 1 episode. 1 episode doesn't invalidate 48 others.
2) I see your point, but 'aggressive' doesn't automatically mean "better."
@Wright805 They don't invalidate the others they just show that maybe the cogs weren't as tough as they were made out to be. That they could be fought unmorphed but at the time the Zeo ranger didn't know that or realized using their powers were easier. Neither Katherine or Tanya were martial artists, so they needed the extra power, the red rangers and Jason were trained martial artist they didn't need it as much. Adam was shown fighting the cogs unmorphed in "Rangers in the Outfield"
kim so wins this round do you that kat doesnt even hit dah putties dey juz fall its totally practiced kim's fights look more real Kim without morph owns her so morphed way better kat doesnt stand a chance
kimberly hardcore owns katherine not trying to be mean or anything but kat was the worst ranger replacement every she was a bad fighter and kim was never ment to leave the show she asked to be written out of the show
Well, this first video was made to show that Kimberly could kick ass WITHOUT needing to morph, which when you look at the second and third videos, sets up the argument that Kimberly is a better fighter than Kat and would kick Kat's butt morphed or unmorphed.
I hate it when people say Kimberly was a horrible fighter, or worse than Katherine...or that she needed Tommy to bail her out. She's a tiny 5'2" cannon! Kat had a height advantage over Kim, but Kim could still take her on. Was Kimberly perfect? No! Did she ask Tommy for help? YES! But she mostly asked for help after she lost her power coin. Katherine so often needed Tommy or Jason's help.
You're absolutely right. Kimberly only asked for help (from anyone, not just Tommy) when she knew she couldn't handle a particular situation by herself (and those times were rare up until season 3).
I do think she relied more on Tommy than the others though, but also, people forget just how much Tommy relied on Kimberly, in a way he never did Katherine. If either was in trouble, they'd each be the first on the scene to help each other out. Tommy and Kimberly were a true team, equal partnership as a couple AND as a power rangers.
Also, people who think Kimberly can't fight alone, should watch the episode she fought a monster alone when she was sick with the flu! :)
True, but they were BF/GF so it's understandable. Even if Tommy never showed that he relied on Kimberly by asking her for help directly (he was the leader after all), when she lost her powers (and her life force) in S3, you could see how torn up he was. He LOVED Kimberly and I never saw anything like that when he was with Kat.
Very true. I mean, just look at his reaction to Kim leaving, vs. Kat leaving (after his previous girlfriend who left him broke up with him). It wasn't the same.
It's true that he didn't really "ask" her for help, but she did save him a few times, but he relied on her for emotional support, in a way he didn't seem to trust Kat, or even think she'd understand.
That's what I mean. His reactions when something happened to Kim show that he relied on her emotionally in a way that he never did with Katherine (or with any of the other rangers except for maybe Jason).
Woah! I was just thinking the same thing about Jason! haha! Funny isn't it, considering Tommy, Kimberly and Jason are probably the three most iconic Rangers of all the series!?!?!? :)
Yeah. The three of them are like the Three Musketeers. Every PR fan knows who they are. Also, think about this. Tommy, Kimberly and Jason were arguably the strongest rangers in Mighty Morphin' which could explain why they were targeted more than the others by Rita and Zedd.
They were probably targeted because they were the most famous rangers. Tommy and Jason were for sure the most powerful/aggressive. I think Kimberly came into her own, and became top sometime in season 2. I mean, she is this tiny little girl, without martial arts training, it makes sense it would take her longer! Though gymnastics helped her a lot for sure!
She didn't take too long. I think that toward the end of the first season, she had proven herself as one of the strongest rangers on the team (though Trini and Zack definitely gave her some competition). You're right, her gymnastics made her a force to be reckoned with.
I think that has a lot to do with her popularity. The Tommy story, the Tommy/Kimberly story catapulted MMPR to heights that nobody expected, and as a result they focused not only on Tommy, but on her as well. Without those two, PR may not have survived 16 seasons. Back then, Power Rangers was the kid's show to beat.
Oh yeah. Back when I was a kid, EVERYONE was talking about Power Rangers. I wanted to be the Green Ranger so bad back then and I had the biggest crush on Kimberly. As for the Tommy/Kimberly relationship, they always seemed destined to be together. I associated Tommy with Kimberly from the very start and I didn't even know they were going out when I used to watch the show.
Hehe, I had a huge Tommy crush, and soo wanted to be as graceful as Kimberly! I could tell they were together though, they had those tiny glances and stuff...I really believe the only reason they writers tried to trash Kimberly's character, is because they wanted ratings, and they thought that Tommy and Pink Ranger 2 would boost them...they were so wrong!
I agree. They knew Kim leaving the show would mean a huge dive in ratings so they put Tommy and Kat together in a (failed) attempt to recreate the chemistry of Tommy & Kimberly and try to rope in old fans.
Btw, the crane was Kimberly's inner spirit, and shouldn't have functioned for Katherine. When the power was transferred to her, in theory, the "inner spirit" should have changed.
True, but you would think the inner power source, the power symbol would be modified, you know? The crane was supposed to epitomize Kimberly's inner strength, when the power was transferred, the animal power source should have changed as well you know? Kimberly and Katherine's spirits/inner strengths were not similar. I dunno if I'm making sense.
I understand what you're saying, but the original power coin was the Crane and remember, before the coin was taken from Kim, it was tied to her life force because it represented her inner spirit. When Zordon and Alpha cut the connection between the coin and Kim's life force to save her, that meant it could be passed on to anyone and nothing would change, since the coin was no longer tied to the ranger's essence.
But I think it really would have been interesting if the change did happen, so we could have found out more about Katherine, would have given her more substance...
So many reasons Tommy/Kat felt forced. Ppl tend to be attracted and she didn't have the personality or history Kim had. Aisha's new bff OK, but Billy's confidante? How's that possible, Kat didn't know Billy since like Kindergarten! And she didn't have the lively personality that Tommy seemed to find adorable in Kim (based on his little reactions to things Kim did). They should have separated her from Kim, not given her Kim's roles w/o Kim's personality. Why couldn't Kat b w/ Billy?
A lot of people like Kat with Jason (and from their interactions in Zeo, I understand why). Kat was so far from Kim in personality, it was laughable which is why it baffles me that they tried to make her this tough girl when she was first introduced in S3, then after that have her be almost completely dependent on Tommy (and later Jason) in Zeo and and Tommy in Turbo. She was not Kimberly and her lack of confidence as a ranger only made that fact painfully obvious.
I've heard that Jason and Kat had chemistry, I'd have to watch/re-watch those episodes. I think I'd be keen on Kat/Billy, just because the tall, pretty, blond with the nerd would have been adorable, if Kat could pull it off, that is...
Billy and Trini had an awesome dynamic, but I don't think I'd be OK with any of the original 5 becoming romantic just because they'd been friends since they were little kids, you know? They weren't like siblings, just a really cool friendship, that wasn't split among genders or into groups like the other teams...but I think I'd be most OK with Billy/Trini if anyone of the original 5 were to become a couple.
Unfortunately, it seems like the Billy/Trini relationship doesn't have many fans and looking at their relationship in Season 1, I can't understand why.
Kimberly could beat up Kathrine..even if Kat was morphed Kimberly could still beat her becuase..if u look at her kicks they look strong enough to knock u down and her speed is amazing... 10 stars for Kim the original pink ranger
In the Turbo film, Kimberly could still kick the foot-soldier's butts and avoid being hit, without Power Ranger powers...Katherine...well...that was a totally different story!
That was the point of this particular video. Kimberly could kick ass without needing to morph while Katherine was largely only effective with the aid of her powers.
I like Kim (she's hot lol!) better then Katherine by far I was so mad when Katherine replaced Kimberly, but truthly I would've been mad @ anybodty who replaced Kim...
Arugably, MMPR season 1 had the BEST fighting choreography, period. The choreography didint really get suckish till season 3. I loved Zeo,. but the fighting footage was horrible. But that's not really the video maker's fault. also, You should have used Turbo fight scenes, since turbo had more unmorphed fights.
What a damn troll. I find it VERY odd how in one day this troll get's +6, and on vids we've all posted on we suddenly have thumb's down. Hell some of us got thumbs down for comments unrelated to debates. Someone's says they like a ranger. Thumbs down.
Hey, if you're referring to me, having my own independant opinion that doesn't agree with the norm of the bandwagon doesn't automatically make me a troll. Just because I'm not blindly going to accept Kim as great doesn't make me a troll.
Plus I hope you're not suggesting I'm giving you thumbs down, I assure you that's not me, I never do that. I discuss things out the higher way rather than just thumbing down, because just thumbing down would suggest no rebuttal. Someone else is doing
Plus, for the record, I've gotted thumbs down too. Why would I thumb myself down? There are just people on Youtube that thumb down whatever video they see. Don't you dare blame me for it. And don't you dare call me a troll just because I'm now bowing at Kim's feet.
Like I told all of you, who appear to be following me around any video I go on, ganging up on me via lynch, deal with the fact that someone just doesn't ike Kim. That doesn't make me a troll.
I call troll on comments only. Thumbers too. And you thinking someone cares to follow your ass on videos, is just you being paranoid and delusional. I could care less what your activity is, which is one reason i didn't bother to go to ur page, except to block u when I saw what u were trying to do by going to mine. I didn't comment on anything u've said except in this and Kat's morph vid.
What I find REALLY amusing is that I even said on the video, as my first comment, I'm not interested in a Kat/Kim discussion, I prefer Kat but it's easy to see that Kim is the superior fighter because gymnastists is more useful for combat than ballet, plus Kim didn't need to be morphed to fight. I was BIGGING Kim up in the fighting department. I just don't warm to her character
But no, obviously because I don't praise every aspect of her every single field of everything, I'm clearly a troll right? Maybe someone just... doesn't like the character and sees her flaws possibly? Stop being so one dimensional. I didn't come here looking for a fight, but everywhere I go I'm seeing you four, the same Kim fans, just bashing me for not liking her. It's really tiresome.
All I'm saying is that every time I've entered videos like these offering my say, I find myself lynched for all it's worth from out the same four Kim fans (which include you).
It's like I can't say anything about Kim unless it's 100% positive for certain people to avoid throwing a mood. That's not right, it shouldn't be like that.
Kim wins hands down(: she was the original pink ranger :D
ggrockss2 1 day ago
KIMBERLY takes it for me.
i always loved kim, she was hot as hell and she could kick some ass!!
kat was alright but Kim was the best!
BUDOKAIultimate3 5 days ago
@ZeoJeren In the movie the only time Kim called on Tommy for a reason other then worry was when she was stuck in the thingies ribs and the other one was trying to get her
teamboobooseth1 3 weeks ago
i love that this is an issue in 2012! kimberly was allllllways better that kat, she even beat a monster on her own with a cold!
bumblebeegee 1 month ago
Looks to me like Kim wins, as she isn't morphed and Kat had to morph to even be able to handle the "lackies" of season 4.
CJBoggess84 1 month ago
Kimberly wins hands down! The actress who plays Katherine wasn't even in this video... thats a stunt woman in the suit.
OmegaTrickz 1 month ago
@PRgirlsrock Well, to me this is just how everyone sees things, differently and if she thinks or just joked about it, that's just a small detail. I guess its just ok to disagree because that's how we all work. And thanks about the Dana avie, I have a great friend who did it for me and to get this out there in my book no one will ever top Dana, she's my favorite Pink and yes very underrated.
ZoeJeren 2 months ago
@PRgirlsrock I totally agree with you about the fact that Kim had experience whereas Kat came in without none or for that matter any form of agile ability like Kim with her gymnastics. On the other hand, I believe Kim's character was made to depend to much on Tommy, this like I said is my opinion, because Jason was no longer there, but in this case it became cuter as they were a couple and no one thought too much of it. Kat was a ranger without having to rely too much on Tommy.
ZoeJeren 2 months ago
I'm getting tired of people assuming that everyone dislikes Kat because A) She replaced Kimberly or B) She ended up with Tommy. That may be true from some, but many of us, generally just found her to be a flat and uninteresting character. The show would have us believe she was little miss perfect. Perfect grades, perfect home life, perfect future mother, perfect athlete, etc. etc. Adam and Tanya teased her about being perfect at everything. Catherine even said it. She was boring to me. (cont).
slickricklj 2 months ago
When she wasn't saying "It's all my fault," she was always being rewarded for something. It still ticks me off she didn't bother to help out with the labor for her project in Another Brick in the Wall. Even had the nerve to stay behind to take pictures, of the work everyone else did. I'm supposed to buy this girl could train a police dog by herself, and that fast? PLEASE! Not to mention someone so insecure would be that good at dangerous sports, and yet let some girl make her watch her weight.
slickricklj 2 months ago
She was no everyday girl. In Zeo, her hair was always done up, she always had more makeup and fancier (less girl next door like in MMPR) looks. It's like she had to be "perfect" and so did her looks. Kim was the one wearing the variety of outfits- more often than not in a pair of boots or sneaks. She dressed simple @ dances even. Her hairstyles were simple. She even wore caps to school. She wasn't perfect in everything she did, and she didn't always have things go her way in the end unlike Kat.
slickricklj 2 months ago
One last thing. One thing I loved about Kim is that she was consistent. We actually see a progression in her qualities as a person and as a ranger. She consistently practiced her main craft - gymnastics. She didn't have some random new extreme skill (performed by a stunt double no less) just pop up out of nowhere. She had believable skills other things like singing, guitar, and art. I love her go-get-em attitude, as well her down-to-earth personality. The small badass that could!
slickricklj 2 months ago
I will say this, I clearly remembered Kim calling out for Tommy far more than Kat ever did. But Kim kicked butt, obvisoulsy, or else she wouldn't of been a ranger. As for Kat she did call on Tommy a few times, that I remember and I know becasue for years I had bee hearing about this and I went through all of Zeo and no, believe me she didn't. As for her character being weak, to me, Kat represents something they hadn't been able to get done with the Pink ranger, flaws like normal girls have them.
ZoeJeren 2 months ago
@ZoeJeren What was Kim calling out to Tommy for? Was it out of worry for him or was she calling for help? I can almost guarantee you that most of the time, she was calling to him out of worry. Kat was calling to him for help most of the time. As for having "flaws", are you implying that Kim was perfect? Because she wasn't.
Devotedlamb19 2 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 She wasn't, but she wasn't relatable, to me, to the everyday girl like Kat was, but really I love them both, I just don't like to see the hate for either one, I just like to see their strengths and weaknesses and not everything be about the fact that Kim was replaced by Kat.
ZoeJeren 2 months ago
@PRgirlsrock Right! Kim saved the day numerous times. She had confidence for days, whereas Kat lacked it. I mean it's a crying shame, someone who claimed being a power ranger made her more confident (which is BS because the girl was panicking like crazy before Tommy saved her), could let one, obviously jealous bimbo lead her into starving herself after 2 years as a ranger! Kat was just fragile as hell. Even her ankle suffered. It's actually hilarious she became a dancer.
slickricklj 2 months ago
@PRgirlsrock LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mysticplatnium 2 months ago
Kimberly sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She was way to girly to be a ranger, she was a weak fight always wanting Tommy's help and she wasn't as hot as Kat. Kat is the best formy opinion.
mysticplatnium 2 months ago
@mysticplatnium Kim and Kat were both "girly" and Kim was NOT weak. She was fast, agile, confident and pretty damn strong for a 5'2 girl. And as for wanting Tommy's help, Kim called for Tommy's help maybe half-a-dozen times throughout the 136 episodes she was on the show. Kat called for Tommy more than that in Zeo alone. Kat was completely dependent on Tommy throughout Zeo and much of Turbo. She was the worst female ranger in the series. Kim destroys Kat.
Devotedlamb19 2 months ago 2
@Devotedlamb19 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mysticplatnium 2 months ago
@mysticplatnium Your response doesn't surprise me. It's the typical response of a retard who has nothing valid to back up their ridiculous claims with.
Devotedlamb19 2 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 Thank u :). I'm happy to be a retard.
mysticplatnium 2 months ago
@mysticplatnium Good, because you'll never be anything more.
Devotedlamb19 1 month ago
@Devotedlamb19 Your welcomed my friend.
mysticplatnium 1 month ago
LOL is my exact reaction to your response. Kat was calling for Tommy's help before she even became a ranger. Kat only had ONE successful solo fight, the other times = bailed out. Kat lacked in confidence and made some dumb decisions that put herself and others in danger. Aside from calling on Tommy (even in back to back episodes) and needing him to bail her out, she also had to be saved by a dog, Jason and Auric. A ranger for 2 yrs and we hear this, "Tommy get me down!" LMAO!
slickricklj 2 months ago
@mysticplatnium Kimberly bailed out her teammates (multiple times) in every season she was in, Kat only did this once, and it was right before she got the boot. Kim had confidence, held her own (even without powers), and could pull through extreme pressure. She defended the planet by herself, while sick with the flu. She knew when to communicate serious threats (before they got worst). It's really no wonder Lord Zedd wanted her to be his queen.
slickricklj 2 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 PREACH!
slickricklj 2 months ago
Kimberly not kat
Martina246629 2 months ago
Kimberly! Kimberly! Kimberly!
And why do the putties make weird noises that sound like Dr Zoidberg from Futurama when he sandcrab's?
DarkArcher71 3 months ago
FUCK KAT
XHandyXMannyX 4 months ago
um yeah, comparing a morphed fight scene to an unmorphed one is not a good comparison, psh duh
MA0niner 5 months ago
If I had to chose, Kim would be the best for me, but why does everyone have to bash Kat so much? She was a great character and ranger as well. They are both played by fantastic actresses! You can have a personal preference, but speaking ill of a character and/or actress is just stupid.
thepowerrangergirlxo 6 months ago
I fuck Kim haha ^_^
angel13452 7 months ago
Kimberly is a flexible fighter so I think she is the better ranger.
TheOmegaDragon 7 months ago
I have to ask but why do they all have to ONLY wear their ranger colors
pwrgtimeforce4ever6 8 months ago
Now kat dose not I mean dose not compare to kim she did not fight like kim did. Kim did here owen stunts and fighting but kat did not. kat is fine but thats it.
WARZONEJONES 9 months ago
I'm so curious, why Kat wearing a pink helmet, but Kim (Amy) it's not..... I thnk in zeo ranger, pink ranger it's not Kat.
dessie176 10 months ago
@dessie176 The pink ranger was Kat in Zeo. If you mean is Kat in the suit in these clips, I doubt it.
Devotedlamb19 10 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 yes! they are japanese suit actors in american scenes. Toei had send a group of suit actors to US, to make better battle scenes in MMPR3, Zeo and Turbo.
MrSergiosampa 7 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 the one in pink suit sure is kat
musicisdance13 5 months ago
@Devotedlamb19
FYI - The original cast all knew martial arts except - Amy Jo Johnson (Kimberly Hart), Catherine Sutherland (Katherine Hillard), David Yost (Billy Cranston), Karan Ashley (Aisha Campbell), and Nakia Burrise (Tanya Sloan). They had to use stunt doubles for certain fight scenes that they were not skilled enough to perform.
They, along with many of the actors in the future shows to follow did not do all of their own stunts.
dsaubinable 11 months ago
@dsaubinable AJJ and David Yost were skilled gymnasts so I believe they did all their own stunts, unless you can prove otherwise. Morphed, I agree that stunt doubles were probably used, but unmorphed, I don't believe it. It makes no sense. This "they weren't skilled enough in martial arts to do their own stunts" is a lot of crap.
Devotedlamb19 11 months ago 3
@Devotedlamb19 agreed.
sguardian870 5 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 all of the originals did their own stunts for a short while but even the ones skilled in martial arts and the gymnasts both started using stunt doubles later simply because it was just getting to often and to dangerous to keep doing their own stunts as if any one got hurt they would have to stop fliming for a while which for a weekly tv show is detremental and most of the morphed stuff is stock footage from japan sentai
schmelzwah 4 months ago
@dsaubinable The cast from the MMPR era has said many times now they did their everything outside of their costumes (even Amy) aside from a few instances. These instances (from the tv show) being Thuy's stunt double in s2 after her injury, Rocky/Adam/Aisha gliding in the air on rollerblades wasn't them, and neither was Kat diving into the pool, riding a wave, nor when she, Tommy and Billy went skiing- all of which weren't civilian form fights.
slickricklj 11 months ago
@dsaubinable - Karan Ashley knew martial arts but minimal
andream1985 5 months ago
omg. Neither of the girls are fighting in ranger form. It's mostly sentai footage with some shots of US stunt doubles! This argument is pointless. lmao
dsaubinable 11 months ago
@dsaubinable First of all, it's all US footage and secondly, Katherine is morphed in all her clips while Kim is unmorphed. You are clearly misinformed.
Devotedlamb19 11 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 If you think that is all US footage, then you're the one that is misinformed.
dsaubinable 11 months ago
@dsaubinable All of Kim's footage is US footage because her fights are UNMORPHED. So yeah, you're misinformed.
Devotedlamb19 11 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 Do you really think I can't tell the difference between UNMORPHED and RANGER FORM?
Kim and Kat had "moments" of fighting time that were edited and combined with STUNT DOUBLES both in and out of ranger form. Not once were ANY of the actors fighting in Ranger form. Sorry to burst the imagination bubble but most action scenes from all power ranger shows used stunt doubles.
The actors (minus Tommy, Adam and a few others) were not as skilled in martial arts as everyone thinks.
dsaubinable 11 months ago
@dsaubinable Maybe in ranger form, I could believe that stunt doubles were used, but unmorphed, I don't think so. In the original Power Rangers, all the actors did their own stunts.
Devotedlamb19 11 months ago
@Devotedlamb19 ...and when the actors were in their ranger suits with helmets off, it was only an intended distraction for the fans, by the producers, to convince younger audiences that they were in the ranger suits when in battle.
dsaubinable 11 months ago
@dsaubinable Also, almost all of Kat's fights were US footage too. Only IOTRS and ROTW Part 2 was Sentai, so the clips are fair game.
Devotedlamb19 11 months ago
Kat is better as Pink Zeo Ranger while Kimberly is good as Pink Power Ranger.
ultraspyro 11 months ago
After watching a second time secondly kat..although kim is hotter
JADEentcmpny 11 months ago
Kimberly gets my vote..plus WAY HOTTER..
JADEentcmpny 11 months ago
kimberly is overall better than kat will ever be
I asked my older brothers the other day what they thought of kimberly from power rangers, they said she was their favorite and she was hot, when I asked them what they thought of kat, they said "who the hell is kat?"
lol that should tell you that kat was nothing more than a replacement, and only got where she was through kim leaving the show
RKOyou 11 months ago
Kimberly 4sures
Nataliestreetteam 11 months ago
Well Obiviously Kimberly is Better in a fight cuz what? you know already
Devitoization 1 year ago
kim was most defiantly the better fighter kat always seemed to block or jump away....never really hit ! were kim kicked some ass and took names!
amberbaird22 1 year ago
i'd actually argue that Kat was more intelligent. Do you remember Kat's idea in Masterville and the Metallic armor and in another brick wall in the wall and in that Zeo episode where she convinced Tommy of who the good guys were? Kim never really thought outside the box like Kat did.
ehoss07 1 year ago
@ehoss07 This video has nothing to do with which of the two was more intelligent, but who's the better fighter and Kim owns Kat in that department.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@ehoss07 intelligence can win in a fight. If not for that the Rangers would have lost countless times. As for skills I would give Season 3 Kim over season3 Kat BUT Turbo Kat might have been better. She cure was more powerful as the Turbo rangers were an upgrade of the Zeo ones who were an upgrade of the originals.
ehoss07 1 year ago
@ehoss07 I'm sorry, Turbo Kat better than Kimberly at which point? Certainly not seasons 1 or 2. Season 3, maybe, but overall, Kim is still vastly superior to Katherine as a fighter.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@ehoss07 Katherine was intelligent but I never found her to be that smart of a fighter. You saw Kimberly figure out Guitardo and Terror Toads weaknesses on her own and destroy them. In "another Brick in the Wall" it was Zordon and Billy asking Katherine about something she had just learned in class. Turbo Kat was improved but she was still not a strong fighter, she got by on basic martial arts skills and still struggled more then the others.
BLS0817 1 year ago
@BLS0817 I thought it was Zordon who told Billy and Kim to go for the noze...not their idea. If I remember correctly it wasn't as much Kimberly as much as it was being the pink ranger. It seemed like everytime Kim did something to a monster morphed it was thanks to the power bow. In comparison the other weapons of the rangers did close to nothing on their own( minus the sword). The power bow was overpowered. When Kat came on the rangers didn't really use their weapons anymore.
ehoss07 1 year ago
@ehoss07 Kimberly showed she was a hell of a fighter against the putties alone and plenty of times she got a kick on a monster. The power bow was a great tool and it did help her take out a few monsters but in regards to Kat you look at her against Digster and Acherina and she just doesn't have the fast reactions and moves that pinks like Cassie, Jen and Dana did. She was a mediocre pink ranger compared to others even Disney ones like Vida .
BLS0817 1 year ago
@BLS0817 @ehoss07 I've seen that video it's good. It's also good that you acknowledge that there were other great pink rangers. For anyone who doesn't think so they should do themeselves a favor and watch Jen. Anyways, you can't use the x struggled vs y arguement IMO b/c it never makes sense. For example, Tommy owned Goldar in green no more unmorphed than was basically defeated in a later episode as the white ranger. This sounds like a who "looks better argument" and that too can be deceiving.
ehoss07 1 year ago
@BLS0817 I have nothing against Kimberly it just bothers me that people put her on a peddle stool and act like she is the only pink ranger worth a dime. When in reality their were other great ones (Jen, Cassie, and yes even Kat at times).
ehoss07 1 year ago
@ehoss07 First of all, it's pedestal, and secondly, of course there were other great Pink rangers. Jen and Cassie like you said, Kendrix, and Dana too, but Katherine is easily the weakest pink ranger in the whole series. Kim was one of the strongest and for anyone to suggest that Katherine beats or even matches her in the fighting department is absolutely preposterous.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
KIMBERLY HELLAAH OWNED! BUWHAHAA. KATHERINE
SUXS AT FIGHTING.
AND KIM WAS MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE THAN KAT. HAHAHA.
KAT CAN BARELY FLIP. LMAO.
dianagrace318 1 year ago
Before being a ranger Kim was well trained in gymnastics.
Before being a ranger Kat was well trained in...swimming.
Obviously Kim was initially the better fighter. (Just look at the fight between the two of them in the Turbo movie) However I will admit that Kat finally started kicking all kinds of ass in Turbo.
SailorPinkRanger 1 year ago
fyi the putty at 2:02 is a woman and at 2:11 kim switches with and asian stunt double.
GoGoVengo 1 year ago
Love the song you used at the beginning!!
PiscesPrincess327 1 year ago
wtf, what is this show LOL
WhitneyElizabethH 1 year ago
@WhitneyElizabethH It's called Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and it was on from 1993-1995. Loved it as a kid and still do now. Anyway, more to the point, who do you think won?.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@Devotedlamb19
Oh, Power rangers LOL
and Kimberly
WhitneyElizabethH 1 year ago
Kim>That other bitch.
I was so pissed. SO PISSED when kimberly left, I nearly stopped watching power rangers.
KneeGrowz10 1 year ago
Kimberly is SOO the crane she is super flexible and graceful. Kat should be some kinda jellyfish.I'm not like on the down side of Kat but honestly I've always been a Kimberly fan. She rules! :D
wizardgal1 1 year ago
Kimberly was a much better fighter and character.
LiquidSolidRaiden 1 year ago 14
@LiquidSolidRaiden Kim did fight better did she?
tigerboyX 6 months ago
Kimberly was a better fighter, but Kat did so much within one three-part episode that proved her to be a great addition to the team. Kat broke an evil spell that was put on her, she was willing to risk her life to save Ninjor, she got the Pink power coin back, and she overcame her fear of water to help Kimberly overcome her fear of the balance beam. Yes, Kimberly was a better fighter, but Kat was just as good a Ranger in her own way.
Actually, the truth is that it's all personal opinion.
mysteryperson1976 1 year ago
@mysteryperson1976 Very true Katherine was never going to be known as a fighter because she wasn't a fighter. She didn't have that background like Trini, Aisha and even Kimberly did. She never became great but she did vastly improve from MMPR to Turbo. I think Katherine benefited from being surrounded by a veteran team from her first day, I just don't know how well she would have done thrown into being a ranger on a team of rookies.
BLS0817 1 year ago
@BLS0817 I think that some of the real highlighting points for her were "Another Shade of Pink" where she did all that I mentioned in my previous comment, and "Another Brick in the Wall," one of her first MMPR episodes, and "Sowing the Seas of Evil," where she makes a huge sacrifice from her quest for the Zeo Crystal, to help an old woman out. Kimberly was the one who picked Kat and said that Kat would be an amazing Power Ranger. I think Kimberly really knew what she was talking about.
mysteryperson1976 1 year ago
Kim. She was always my favorite. I still have her action figure.
starry1127 1 year ago
mighty morphin rules cause they don't really morph much
that way you can see the real abilty of the actors and that
they really do can fight, that's why for me,
it is still by far the best series, (--,
geri911 1 year ago 19
see this video wasn't fair cuz all the clips of Kat were morphed and all of Kim's clips were unmorphed
PrinceTrexus 1 year ago 2
@PrinceTrexus The reason for that is this video was to show that even unmorphed, Kim was a better fighter than Kat. You would think that since she's morphed, Kat would have more strength and speed due to the activation of her powers, but Kim beats her in both areas, even without her powers.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
KAT FOREVER! KIM SUCKS
theparenttrapfan1 1 year ago
@theparenttrapfan1 Kim destroys Kat 100x over. Kat was a sucky fighter, and a sucky ranger. She was unworthy to be the Pink Ranger.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@Devotedlamb19 Think as you like does not interest me REALLY KILLS KAT KIM,
KIM stinks
theparenttrapfan1 1 year ago
@theparenttrapfan1 Live in a fantasy if you like, but those who live in reality know the truth.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
I think kat has always been and will be better than kim, no matter how many forms of combat or anything it will always be better Kim always uses the gym to fight and actually a bit tired and bored .... kat also formed a most beautiful couple with tommy.
theparenttrapfan1 1 year ago
@theparenttrapfan1 Gymnastics certainly made her a better fighter when compared to Kat's ballet. Kim was faster, stronger, more agile, and had better technique. Kim kills Kat.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@theparenttrapfan1 Also, Tommy/Kim is the ONLY true MMPR couple! Tommy/Kat was contrived and pathetic!
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago 2
@Devotedlamb19 I don't think that .... MMPR was also the very bad.....ZEO RULES!
theparenttrapfan1 1 year ago
@theparenttrapfan1 Well, that explains your unfounded hate for Kim. If Zeo was so great, why is MMPR the only series remembered by the general public? Because it's the only one that was truly great.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@Devotedlamb19 What's worst is that Catherine Sutherland isn't even fond of Zeo. All of the actors either talk about MMPR only or Turbo. Zeo was so good that it continued to make fans quit the show, and they resorted to hiring an 11 yr old to try and gain new fans! LMAO!
slickricklj 1 year ago
@Devotedlamb19 okay, if you like kim too much you like the series Mighty Morpin just saying that to me was one of the worst series of Rangers ...
theparenttrapfan1 1 year ago
@theparenttrapfan1 kim is better than kat loser
and also, kim and tommy actually kissed, and not just once
kat was just a rebound and the relationship never went anywhere
RKOyou 11 months ago
Kim wins BY FAR!
KingGspard91 1 year ago
ok no offence to anyone but kimberly was deffinalty the better fighter. kat was not good!!! kim had gymnastics which helped her! and kat just ehh...
Lucassssssss7BACKUP 1 year ago
I'm just putting it out there since people don't seem to get it. The cogs, like the tengas only required morphing within the context of the plots of their shows. Tengas beat down cogs, so that automatically made them less than they were said to be. In Forever Red, ever ranger, including two who were in zeo, beat down Cogs like any other foot soldier. Cogs were surpassed with each season, esp In Space where it was machines again, and they too were defeated unmorphed. So the footage is fair game.
slickricklj 1 year ago
As far as the defensive vs offensive. Yes, both can be effective, but if not careful one is easily overwhelmed and switching tactics when necessary is always a better choice. Kim's advantage was that she had both good offense/defense. just watch her various fight scenes. For example, she used gymnastics for both forms of fighting. Often mixing both styles at once. Kat never really had a good offense, and was occasionally seen being overwhelmed in both her unmorphed and morphed forms.
slickricklj 1 year ago
@slickricklj Thank you! Also in regard to fighting styles, if Kim had fought Cogs, she would've used the same style she used with the putties.
Devotedlamb19 1 year ago
@Devotedlamb19 Precisely. I laugh at comments suggesting the rangers would just switch their fighting styles. I'm sorry but you don't just switch a martial arts style. If this was the case then why did Tommy and others always use their same martial arts skills? Even here. You see Kim taking out SUPER putties using the same techniques she had with regular ones. I'm actually glad Kim wasn't in Zeo because the morphed footage for Pink was easily the weakest. Course I always said # was based skills
slickricklj 1 year ago
2 points-
1. Kat only 'needed' to morph because the Cogs were a lot stronger than Putties. NONE of the Rangers could fight Cogs unmorphed. Had Kim still been there she would have had to morph too.
2. Being more a more 'aggressive' fighter doesn't make you better. A defensive style can be just as effective, it's just different.
Wright805 1 year ago
@Wright805
1)Jason didn't seem to have much trouble with them unmorphed in "A Golden Homecoming" and the red rangers in "Forever Red" torn an army of them apart unmorphed.
2) But as a ranger I feel like you should have a more aggressive fighting style, time is of the essence.
BLS0817 1 year ago
@BLS0817 1) "Forever Red" is full of plot holes. I wouldn't consider that a valid source of evidence. "A Golden Homecoming" is 1 episode. 1 episode doesn't invalidate 48 others.
2) I see your point, but 'aggressive' doesn't automatically mean "better."
Wright805 1 year ago
@Wright805 They don't invalidate the others they just show that maybe the cogs weren't as tough as they were made out to be. That they could be fought unmorphed but at the time the Zeo ranger didn't know that or realized using their powers were easier. Neither Katherine or Tanya were martial artists, so they needed the extra power, the red rangers and Jason were trained martial artist they didn't need it as much. Adam was shown fighting the cogs unmorphed in "Rangers in the Outfield"
BLS0817 1 year ago
@BLS0817 Good point.
Wright805 1 year ago
kim so wins this round do you that kat doesnt even hit dah putties dey juz fall its totally practiced kim's fights look more real Kim without morph owns her so morphed way better kat doesnt stand a chance
crazyecuagurl683 1 year ago
Katherine fighting is so rehearsed and not only that she was in Ranger form the whole time fighting
fashionlady27 1 year ago
kimberly hardcore owns katherine not trying to be mean or anything but kat was the worst ranger replacement every she was a bad fighter and kim was never ment to leave the show she asked to be written out of the show
appleman58 1 year ago
kimberly is the best pink ranger
kimgray16 1 year ago
lol, the music.
mike20079 1 year ago
Ummm, how could Kat possibly win this round when Kimberly was kicking ass WITHOUT needing to morph?
lenzino7383 2 years ago 2
Well, this first video was made to show that Kimberly could kick ass WITHOUT needing to morph, which when you look at the second and third videos, sets up the argument that Kimberly is a better fighter than Kat and would kick Kat's butt morphed or unmorphed.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
I hate it when people say Kimberly was a horrible fighter, or worse than Katherine...or that she needed Tommy to bail her out. She's a tiny 5'2" cannon! Kat had a height advantage over Kim, but Kim could still take her on. Was Kimberly perfect? No! Did she ask Tommy for help? YES! But she mostly asked for help after she lost her power coin. Katherine so often needed Tommy or Jason's help.
natyanayaki 2 years ago
You're absolutely right. Kimberly only asked for help (from anyone, not just Tommy) when she knew she couldn't handle a particular situation by herself (and those times were rare up until season 3).
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
I do think she relied more on Tommy than the others though, but also, people forget just how much Tommy relied on Kimberly, in a way he never did Katherine. If either was in trouble, they'd each be the first on the scene to help each other out. Tommy and Kimberly were a true team, equal partnership as a couple AND as a power rangers.
Also, people who think Kimberly can't fight alone, should watch the episode she fought a monster alone when she was sick with the flu! :)
natyanayaki 2 years ago
True, but they were BF/GF so it's understandable. Even if Tommy never showed that he relied on Kimberly by asking her for help directly (he was the leader after all), when she lost her powers (and her life force) in S3, you could see how torn up he was. He LOVED Kimberly and I never saw anything like that when he was with Kat.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
Very true. I mean, just look at his reaction to Kim leaving, vs. Kat leaving (after his previous girlfriend who left him broke up with him). It wasn't the same.
It's true that he didn't really "ask" her for help, but she did save him a few times, but he relied on her for emotional support, in a way he didn't seem to trust Kat, or even think she'd understand.
natyanayaki 2 years ago
That's what I mean. His reactions when something happened to Kim show that he relied on her emotionally in a way that he never did with Katherine (or with any of the other rangers except for maybe Jason).
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
Woah! I was just thinking the same thing about Jason! haha! Funny isn't it, considering Tommy, Kimberly and Jason are probably the three most iconic Rangers of all the series!?!?!? :)
natyanayaki 2 years ago
Yeah. The three of them are like the Three Musketeers. Every PR fan knows who they are. Also, think about this. Tommy, Kimberly and Jason were arguably the strongest rangers in Mighty Morphin' which could explain why they were targeted more than the others by Rita and Zedd.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
They were probably targeted because they were the most famous rangers. Tommy and Jason were for sure the most powerful/aggressive. I think Kimberly came into her own, and became top sometime in season 2. I mean, she is this tiny little girl, without martial arts training, it makes sense it would take her longer! Though gymnastics helped her a lot for sure!
natyanayaki 2 years ago
She didn't take too long. I think that toward the end of the first season, she had proven herself as one of the strongest rangers on the team (though Trini and Zack definitely gave her some competition). You're right, her gymnastics made her a force to be reckoned with.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
I think that has a lot to do with her popularity. The Tommy story, the Tommy/Kimberly story catapulted MMPR to heights that nobody expected, and as a result they focused not only on Tommy, but on her as well. Without those two, PR may not have survived 16 seasons. Back then, Power Rangers was the kid's show to beat.
natyanayaki 2 years ago
Oh yeah. Back when I was a kid, EVERYONE was talking about Power Rangers. I wanted to be the Green Ranger so bad back then and I had the biggest crush on Kimberly. As for the Tommy/Kimberly relationship, they always seemed destined to be together. I associated Tommy with Kimberly from the very start and I didn't even know they were going out when I used to watch the show.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
Hehe, I had a huge Tommy crush, and soo wanted to be as graceful as Kimberly! I could tell they were together though, they had those tiny glances and stuff...I really believe the only reason they writers tried to trash Kimberly's character, is because they wanted ratings, and they thought that Tommy and Pink Ranger 2 would boost them...they were so wrong!
natyanayaki 2 years ago 2
I agree. They knew Kim leaving the show would mean a huge dive in ratings so they put Tommy and Kat together in a (failed) attempt to recreate the chemistry of Tommy & Kimberly and try to rope in old fans.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
Exactly!
Btw, the crane was Kimberly's inner spirit, and shouldn't have functioned for Katherine. When the power was transferred to her, in theory, the "inner spirit" should have changed.
natyanayaki 2 years ago
As far as I know, Katherine never piloted the Crane Zord, something that I was very happy about.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
True, but you would think the inner power source, the power symbol would be modified, you know? The crane was supposed to epitomize Kimberly's inner strength, when the power was transferred, the animal power source should have changed as well you know? Kimberly and Katherine's spirits/inner strengths were not similar. I dunno if I'm making sense.
natyanayaki 2 years ago
I understand what you're saying, but the original power coin was the Crane and remember, before the coin was taken from Kim, it was tied to her life force because it represented her inner spirit. When Zordon and Alpha cut the connection between the coin and Kim's life force to save her, that meant it could be passed on to anyone and nothing would change, since the coin was no longer tied to the ranger's essence.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
But I think it really would have been interesting if the change did happen, so we could have found out more about Katherine, would have given her more substance...
natyanayaki 2 years ago
You're right. The writers really didn't take the time to develop Kat's character which is probably why the Tommy/Kat relationship felt so forced.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
So many reasons Tommy/Kat felt forced. Ppl tend to be attracted and she didn't have the personality or history Kim had. Aisha's new bff OK, but Billy's confidante? How's that possible, Kat didn't know Billy since like Kindergarten! And she didn't have the lively personality that Tommy seemed to find adorable in Kim (based on his little reactions to things Kim did). They should have separated her from Kim, not given her Kim's roles w/o Kim's personality. Why couldn't Kat b w/ Billy?
natyanayaki 2 years ago
A lot of people like Kat with Jason (and from their interactions in Zeo, I understand why). Kat was so far from Kim in personality, it was laughable which is why it baffles me that they tried to make her this tough girl when she was first introduced in S3, then after that have her be almost completely dependent on Tommy (and later Jason) in Zeo and and Tommy in Turbo. She was not Kimberly and her lack of confidence as a ranger only made that fact painfully obvious.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
I've heard that Jason and Kat had chemistry, I'd have to watch/re-watch those episodes. I think I'd be keen on Kat/Billy, just because the tall, pretty, blond with the nerd would have been adorable, if Kat could pull it off, that is...
natyanayaki 2 years ago
Personally, I would've loved to see Billy with Trini. Those two had so much chemistry, it's a shame the writers didn't do anything with it.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
Billy and Trini had an awesome dynamic, but I don't think I'd be OK with any of the original 5 becoming romantic just because they'd been friends since they were little kids, you know? They weren't like siblings, just a really cool friendship, that wasn't split among genders or into groups like the other teams...but I think I'd be most OK with Billy/Trini if anyone of the original 5 were to become a couple.
natyanayaki 2 years ago
and i thought i was the only one who wanted to see that relationship!
seventydreams 2 years ago
Unfortunately, it seems like the Billy/Trini relationship doesn't have many fans and looking at their relationship in Season 1, I can't understand why.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
i know, they were really cute together. they were the smartest in the group! plus i really liked billy and thought he deserved a girl :(
oh well
seventydreams 2 years ago
Kimberly could beat up Kathrine..even if Kat was morphed Kimberly could still beat her becuase..if u look at her kicks they look strong enough to knock u down and her speed is amazing... 10 stars for Kim the original pink ranger
mileyraycyrusfan657 2 years ago 2
In the Turbo film, Kimberly could still kick the foot-soldier's butts and avoid being hit, without Power Ranger powers...Katherine...well...that was a totally different story!
natyanayaki 2 years ago
That was the point of this particular video. Kimberly could kick ass without needing to morph while Katherine was largely only effective with the aid of her powers.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
lol i know right!
mileyraycyrusfan657 2 years ago
I like Kim (she's hot lol!) better then Katherine by far I was so mad when Katherine replaced Kimberly, but truthly I would've been mad @ anybodty who replaced Kim...
Garettlaccie 2 years ago 3
Kimberly seems to have way more speed than Kat
DavidStenbeck 2 years ago 13
good video. But unfair comparison on some parts.
Arugably, MMPR season 1 had the BEST fighting choreography, period. The choreography didint really get suckish till season 3. I loved Zeo,. but the fighting footage was horrible. But that's not really the video maker's fault. also, You should have used Turbo fight scenes, since turbo had more unmorphed fights.
Dboy4100x4 2 years ago
Watch Part 2. That's where I used Turbo fight scenes.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
Kimberly owns!!! She was a better fighter than Katherine morphed! HAHAHA!
Bfolks84 2 years ago 15
After reading comments, Katherine was an ok pink ranger and all, and even some of the others.
But Kimberly is the Greatest Pink Ranger of them All.
Kimberly Hart > all others. :)
ladystixxs 2 years ago 2
What a damn troll. I find it VERY odd how in one day this troll get's +6, and on vids we've all posted on we suddenly have thumb's down. Hell some of us got thumbs down for comments unrelated to debates. Someone's says they like a ranger. Thumbs down.
slickricklj 2 years ago
Hey, if you're referring to me, having my own independant opinion that doesn't agree with the norm of the bandwagon doesn't automatically make me a troll. Just because I'm not blindly going to accept Kim as great doesn't make me a troll.
Plus I hope you're not suggesting I'm giving you thumbs down, I assure you that's not me, I never do that. I discuss things out the higher way rather than just thumbing down, because just thumbing down would suggest no rebuttal. Someone else is doing
Jiemusu89 2 years ago
Plus, for the record, I've gotted thumbs down too. Why would I thumb myself down? There are just people on Youtube that thumb down whatever video they see. Don't you dare blame me for it. And don't you dare call me a troll just because I'm now bowing at Kim's feet.
Like I told all of you, who appear to be following me around any video I go on, ganging up on me via lynch, deal with the fact that someone just doesn't ike Kim. That doesn't make me a troll.
Jiemusu89 2 years ago
I call troll on comments only. Thumbers too. And you thinking someone cares to follow your ass on videos, is just you being paranoid and delusional. I could care less what your activity is, which is one reason i didn't bother to go to ur page, except to block u when I saw what u were trying to do by going to mine. I didn't comment on anything u've said except in this and Kat's morph vid.
slickricklj 2 years ago
What I find REALLY amusing is that I even said on the video, as my first comment, I'm not interested in a Kat/Kim discussion, I prefer Kat but it's easy to see that Kim is the superior fighter because gymnastists is more useful for combat than ballet, plus Kim didn't need to be morphed to fight. I was BIGGING Kim up in the fighting department. I just don't warm to her character
Jiemusu89 2 years ago
techinically that wasnt Kat's fault for "needing to morph" zeo rarely had any unmorphed fights in general.
Dboy4100x4 2 years ago
But no, obviously because I don't praise every aspect of her every single field of everything, I'm clearly a troll right? Maybe someone just... doesn't like the character and sees her flaws possibly? Stop being so one dimensional. I didn't come here looking for a fight, but everywhere I go I'm seeing you four, the same Kim fans, just bashing me for not liking her. It's really tiresome.
Jiemusu89 2 years ago
I hope you're not including me when you say "you four", because I've only recently discovered your existence on the "Katherine's morphs" video.
Devotedlamb19 2 years ago
All I'm saying is that every time I've entered videos like these offering my say, I find myself lynched for all it's worth from out the same four Kim fans (which include you).
It's like I can't say anything about Kim unless it's 100% positive for certain people to avoid throwing a mood. That's not right, it shouldn't be like that.
Jiemusu89 2 years ago