There are real world applications to the math. The car is light and has a relatively big engine, just like the bike. Yet the bike wins. The reason? Specific output of the engine. Why is specific output better? Because the bike revs to 14,000 rpms and still breaths. That is a different concluison than "bike wins because it is light." If the bike won because it was light, then it would need a 2liter engine and still be the same weight. That is an important practical distinction.
The point I was trying to make is not that the power to weight ratio of the car is better than the bike's. The bike makes more power for it's weight. No question. But to say that the bike is just a motor and wheel and so it wins is not entirely correct. The reason it wins is because of the superior specific output of the engine not because it is lighter in relation to its engine. You must have misread the phrase "displacement to weight ratio" as "power to weight ratio."
Cars will ultimately always be quicker and faster than bikes. You see that starting to happen on the street at around 1200awhp and certainly in any professional racing - NHRA or F1. Part of this is Aero, part contact patch (traction) and part of this is power. All that said, the new S1000 is bad-ass.
uh,??? 0-60 in 3.4? a litre bike does it 2.3(professional) and my bike does 104mph in 1st gear. i'd hate to see what someone who knows how to drag race could've done. (0-60ft aka launching aka 'getting outa the hole' times require a pro)
i dare say the BMW ridden by a rider like this one.. would probably blow the doors off the veyron, theres a video on here of a Gixxer 750 racing a veyron, the gixxer lost.. but only just
If you look closely, the rider could not give full revs and power in the lower gears due to wheelie factor, so the driver thought he had a chance. Just as the car started to wheeze, the bike started to breathe deep and run.
430bike+160(rider)=590pounds. 590 / 1liter = 590 pounds per liter.
3360car+160 pounds (driver)=3520/6.2liter=568 pounds per liter
Clearly this is an estimate with weight of stock zr1 and weight of my r6 with gas on my scales subbing for the bigger BMW. but it clearly shows the car having AT LEAST the same displacement to weight ratio as the bike. The BM rider was small, but leathers alone weigh about 30 pounds... Don't be a bonehead the numbers are right in front of you.
Umm. Im sorry but you sir are the bone head, if that car was putting out 700hp(which its not) then it would be making just over 100 hp per liter. Now the s1000rr is making 183hp(to the wheels in bone stock configuration) with its one liter of displacement, so your math has literally no real world application
that car is making 700hp with its 6.2 liters which is 112hp per liter
the s1000rr makes 183hp(to the wheel in bone stock configuration which that one is not stock probably putting out closer to 200) with its one liter of displacement which gives it a MUCH better power to weight ratio than the vette in other words... your math =FAIL
The guy from "Geiger Cars" in munich tuned the ZR1 to beat the bike. The first thing he says is: " The bike has a great power-to-weight ratio but it has also got a contact surface to the ground as small as a cigarette box. The Vette has got 2 x 345mm rear tires. For this reason he says, the car is gonna win because the car just needs 3.4 seconds from 0-60 mph. In the end he realises that he completely underestimated the bike :)
@chalemalach
Ist es nicht, du Bauerntrottel. Lass das Drecksmopped mal gegen nen richtig getunten Wagen oder nen Veyron fahren....
johncourt666 2 weeks ago
@johncourt666
schlag mal im duden das wort ironie nach, du hauptschulabbrecher...
chalemalach 2 weeks ago
the GT-R Switzer P800 with its 4 wheel drive maybe but that zr1 needs a lot more hp to beat the bike!
Check on youtube GT-R Switzer P800 vs Hayabusa (0-300 Kmh)
mitkoman 1 year ago
@mitkoman
No the GTR P800 will not beat this bike.
LambdaQuarks 7 months ago
@LambdaQuarks
It will.
johncourt666 2 weeks ago
if you are taking on a 1000cc superbike... your car better have at least 800BHP.
if you're taking on the bmw S1000R, you need 1000BHP...
GOBbluthagain 1 year ago
i want to see a race beetween bugatti an s1000rr
iulianmarlanu 1 year ago
@iulianmarlanu bike magazine did it in this months issue- not sure if there's any videos about for it
rockandsteel 1 year ago
the devil is inside that bike!
namara500 1 year ago 3
There are real world applications to the math. The car is light and has a relatively big engine, just like the bike. Yet the bike wins. The reason? Specific output of the engine. Why is specific output better? Because the bike revs to 14,000 rpms and still breaths. That is a different concluison than "bike wins because it is light." If the bike won because it was light, then it would need a 2liter engine and still be the same weight. That is an important practical distinction.
britishbikes12 1 year ago
The point I was trying to make is not that the power to weight ratio of the car is better than the bike's. The bike makes more power for it's weight. No question. But to say that the bike is just a motor and wheel and so it wins is not entirely correct. The reason it wins is because of the superior specific output of the engine not because it is lighter in relation to its engine. You must have misread the phrase "displacement to weight ratio" as "power to weight ratio."
britishbikes12 1 year ago
MY FIAT 500 CAN GO 10000MP/H FASTER AAAAHAAAAA XD
TheID3000 1 year ago
Cars will ultimately always be quicker and faster than bikes. You see that starting to happen on the street at around 1200awhp and certainly in any professional racing - NHRA or F1. Part of this is Aero, part contact patch (traction) and part of this is power. All that said, the new S1000 is bad-ass.
mrphotoid 1 year ago
mercedes truck pulling a bmw
MrSegaGenesis 1 year ago
uh,??? 0-60 in 3.4? a litre bike does it 2.3(professional) and my bike does 104mph in 1st gear. i'd hate to see what someone who knows how to drag race could've done. (0-60ft aka launching aka 'getting outa the hole' times require a pro)
trafficvegas 1 year ago
i dare say the BMW ridden by a rider like this one.. would probably blow the doors off the veyron, theres a video on here of a Gixxer 750 racing a veyron, the gixxer lost.. but only just
AddersZXR4 1 year ago
wonder what happened against a veyron
RandyMedion 1 year ago
mathias konnte vieleicht lieber Lifestyle und Deko shows moderieren wie der rumalbert
vtwinmesa 1 year ago
bike spanked it big time
JoeRUGBY10 1 year ago
If you look closely, the rider could not give full revs and power in the lower gears due to wheelie factor, so the driver thought he had a chance. Just as the car started to wheeze, the bike started to breathe deep and run.
britishbikes12 2 years ago
430bike+160(rider)=590pounds. 590 / 1liter = 590 pounds per liter.
3360car+160 pounds (driver)=3520/6.2liter=568 pounds per liter
Clearly this is an estimate with weight of stock zr1 and weight of my r6 with gas on my scales subbing for the bigger BMW. but it clearly shows the car having AT LEAST the same displacement to weight ratio as the bike. The BM rider was small, but leathers alone weigh about 30 pounds... Don't be a bonehead the numbers are right in front of you.
britishbikes12 2 years ago
@britishbikes12
Umm. Im sorry but you sir are the bone head, if that car was putting out 700hp(which its not) then it would be making just over 100 hp per liter. Now the s1000rr is making 183hp(to the wheels in bone stock configuration) with its one liter of displacement, so your math has literally no real world application
RobeyMc 1 year ago
@britishbikes12
that car is making 700hp with its 6.2 liters which is 112hp per liter
the s1000rr makes 183hp(to the wheel in bone stock configuration which that one is not stock probably putting out closer to 200) with its one liter of displacement which gives it a MUCH better power to weight ratio than the vette in other words... your math =FAIL
RobeyMc 1 year ago
Most ugly ZR1 ever seen....stupit front bumper. Real ZR1 is nicer
0jesse10397 2 years ago
The guy from "Geiger Cars" in munich tuned the ZR1 to beat the bike. The first thing he says is: " The bike has a great power-to-weight ratio but it has also got a contact surface to the ground as small as a cigarette box. The Vette has got 2 x 345mm rear tires. For this reason he says, the car is gonna win because the car just needs 3.4 seconds from 0-60 mph. In the end he realises that he completely underestimated the bike :)
Waldkraiburg2Bavaria 2 years ago
Don't ever mess with a superbike,
even if You sit in a tuned ZR1 vette!
This BMW bike has power to weigth ratio of 0,82kg per HP!
If the 1,52 tons Vette will have the same ratio, it should make more than 1800 hp!!
*lol*
Don't misunderstand me: the ZR1 is a great car - compared to other cars!
(not compared to an actual superbike)
SH1974 2 years ago 11
Well actually around 400 pounds (Bike weight)
VoiTuboUser 2 years ago
I knew the outcome b4 the outcome. always fun to watch bikes vs cars tho'
allgripNnoslipN 2 years ago 10
O wow, thats surprising. off course the 5lb bike is gonna win, but its not surprising they would try, (Again) to make those american cars look bad.
JellyBird12 2 years ago
what a poor comparison, obviously the bike's gonna win
praetorian2150 2 years ago