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  • Also you can catch the gas bubbles in a test tube and check its temp.

    If you do not wish to try this, eventually I will, and will post the result here, but it may be a very long time.

    It really is important though to measure the gas temp for explaining where the energy goes/comes from.

  • Thank you.

    I did this once with regular AC power and that water did get hot.

    If the gas bubbles are colder than the water it should be obvious just by holding you hand/finger above the caustic soda and water, not in it.

  • Can you hold your finger in above the water (in the gas) and see if it is colder?

    You see, many argue there is mysterious energy coming from somewhere, and if the gas is cold, then that may explain where.

    Also, that could defeat those who say it cannot work in theory.

  • @harleyborgais Well, there is certainly no heat being generated in the water during the process. I cannot hold my finger in the water due to the caustic soda inside. But the outside of the container feels cool at all times.

  • The ratio of Hydrogen to Oxygen in HHO gas is a different ratio if you measure by number, by volume, or by weight.

    Can you tell me the temperatures of the air, the water, and the gas produced?

    (Is the gas colder, making it an endothermic reaction?)

  • @harleyborgais Sorry, I am not measuring temperatures at all in this project. I will be using real world fluxuating temperatures in a vehicle anyway, so the range will vary a lot. Gas production is usually measured by placing the output hose into a up turned 1 liter bottle filled with water and see how fast the water is replaced by gas.

  • The higher the frequency used the better.

    The perfect frequency is the 2.45Ghz radiation from the Magnetron in any Microwave oven. Those use around 1,000 Watts on average (120v x 8.3a=996w).

    You should need far less watts than that.

    The gas produced per hour is an important figure to know.

    The amount of Hydrogen gas used per hour for small cars and buses is available info on the internet. Remember though, this is more than just Hydrogen.

  • Ideally, the pressure is supposed to be about 150psi from some of my research...

    The wattage input is very low, but the voltage is very high.

    The current is absolutely minimized, and arcing/sparking between plates is prevented by the circuit (any sudden increase in amps trips a breaker).

    Stanley Meyer used 45,000 pulses per second.

    DC pulses work better for such a polarizing effect.

  • We need volts times amps to know the power input, so its 0.2 amps times how many volts?

    Measuring the amount of gas can involve a cover with a tube hot-glued in and a garbage bag attached by rubber band to catch the gas.

    Then you try to round the volume and measure its diameter for a rough guess at the volume (not under pressure from a pump). Using a large balloon could help, but the pressure will change the effect.

  • @harleyborgais 12 volts from a car battery is used to run the system.

  • Ok, I know from military petroleum training that gasoline only explodes in a narrow percentage, about 6-8% or so, and that range varies by type of fuel.

    You are probably fine with a fan on the container and really good ventilation.

  • We need to know how much gas is produced and watts of electricity consumed per hour to determine the usefulness of your model.

  • @harleyborgais About 200 mA of energy is used to power the system. The amount of gas output right now is minimal and useless. I am experimenting on expanding the output energy with little or no increase on energy used. First I have been testing various plate sizes and combinations. Next I will modify the SSG electronics to fine tune it for best output.

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  • I hope you realize that the sparks from disconnecting could explode the HHO gas with this kind of open container.

  • @harleyborgais That is a very good point. I should mention that i use a LOT of ventilation around my work area. I also make sure the place is well ventilated before even turning on or off the light in the lab area. The amount of gas in the open top of the container is not enough to explode at this time, due to the amount of fresh air moving past the top of the container. When working with closed containers and high gas volume, I use extreme caution.

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