No 450R can win in a race unless the rider on the 500 doesn't know how to use it to it's potential. The 500 has more displacement AND it's a 2 stroke. Sorry but computerized shit isn't going to make up for that although it's quite nice. In theory, the KX500 should be significantly faster than the CR because it has a powervalve. I've never been blessed enough to ride one so maybe they're neck and neck but the powervalve is the reason why a Honda 250R or Suzuki LT250 can keep up with a banshee
DUDE THE HONDA WOULD HAVE ONE IF HOMEBOY COULDA KEPT IT STRAIGHT... HE ALMOST LOST TOTAL CONTROL OFF THE LINE AND POPS IT UP LIKE A JACKASS.... IF HE KEPT BOTH TIRES DOWN AND DIDNT GET SIDEWAYS OFF THE LINE HE WON HANDS DOWN....
alright half of you guys on this dont know what your talking about. first off, no CR 500 will beat a KX 500 stock. Kawasaki has KIPS. thats why Kawasaki 2 strokes are unbeatable. kawasaki 2 or 4 stroke either way they are on the podium. two strokes are unkillable. i have 5 kawis. and i have a 92 kx 250 with over 180 hours on the engine now i know it sounds impossble. but kawis are tough.
@BBkawiracing kawis are badass bikes i like how people talk shit on them and never rode one ive been ridin kawis sience i was 12 and i love the bikes ive been ridin sience 6 owned suzuki honda and yamaha but none of them match up to a good ole kawi
yeah but id like to see ur little ktm go up against a kawi 85. and ktms break down so easy its not even funny, and yeah 32 really isnt much cause i have 01 kx 85 putting out 35. not that impressive buddy. stock 85's put out about 25 so uve added 7? woo hoo.
@BBkawiracing yeaa id eat your kawi alive yours puts out 27 and whatever youve done to it standard bore its only getting 32 and ive owned my ktm for 2 years and its never broke down and ive just actully im getting 34 get ur facts right honda 85 23hp, honda 150r 22hp, yamaha 85 17hp, kawi 85 27hp and KTM 85 29hp stock
@vincent12225 you tell me to get my facts straight. how old are you again? hmm? 8 ? you dont know shit budd. sorry to have to tell you. get it through your thick skull. and how do you know ? did you google it kid? sorry but ktm is good for a race or two. then you gotta replace every fucking. and obviously you do not race. so you have no clue i bet you havent done anything to your bike and i bet it runs like shit,
@vincent12225 and my kawi pitbike (85) isnt stock. and your changing your hp after every comment here.. hmm is that telling us something. again you dont know shit.
@BBkawiracing i do actually race and over the course of 2 years all ive done is replace the top end twice and im still hauling ass (past every lil kawi i see) and no sorry im not 8 like you im 15 thanks..asshole
@vincent12225 oh your reaaaalllly tough arent you? your 15 and your racing 85's i got off of racing 85's when i was 11 i started racing 250fs at 12. go grow a pair buddy. and your cool i can say asshole too
@vincent12225 yepp im totally rich buddy. im rolling in dough. i roll up in a 4 cylinder pick up with my bikes rusty and trusty. i pay for my bikes my self. i cant afford shops to do my stuff i do it the budget racer way. your a waste of time. bye maim
@vincent12225 i dont know man i still have my little yz85 and that things a ripper, i used to shit on 150f's all the time, so you might wanna check your facts.
@vincent12225 i understand that but the 150r's just keep up with my YZ instead of blowing me away like your HP numbers would suggest I also used race my buddys bored out KX85 and we were side by side over the whoops
If the CR500 didnt have 5x the power your KX did, it wouldnt have torn the track to pieces, and then wheeled half way down the track to barely lose. Your brother took off like a bitch and babied it out of the gate.
im a proud owner of a 04'kx500 my third one well im slappin a paddle tire on for the first time racin some sand drags this weekend, anything i should no about the setup? ;-)
@kxmade Change your front sprocket to a 15 tooth. Mud and depris wedge inbetween the chain and sprocket and like to ware out the engine case. My uncle had this problem on his KX500. Dealer said KX500 is known for it. I think its because there motor is based from 1989-2004 with no real changes. When KX used a O-ring chain, whitch is wider than standard chain there's no room for it. To keep your stock ratios change the rear to a 50 tooth. You might want 15 front and 48/49 rear for the desert.
i started out with a 86 kx 500 and it was a beast very unpreditable and very unreliable but the power was undeniable the cr is just the opposite well built and reliable so to calm the storm of you kx and cr haters it depends on your setup who's ever running good and can hold it down is the winner and clearly the cr got its ass kicked and i own 2 of them hats off to the kx.
obviouslt with the extended swingarm and more heavy mods on the cr it would beat a stock kx. but stock for stock everyone knows there is only one widow maker and its green not red.
@just enduro 5.7 liters is 350 cubic inch im not trying to be a smart ass but i do work in a machine shop and have worked on lots of dirtbikes and cars
yeah fuck the 4 strokes,,thats right they are worked off there head from factory so trying for big power increases will lead to disaster,but the cr 500 is just a big docile pig with shit loads of potential hidden with in,i guess thats why we love them..
A friend of my father rebuilds old 500R Quadzillas. His personal bike is a 500Zilla with a Gixxer1100 engine tied in it. The thing's a death trap. He said he's done 90mph wheelies in 3rd gear. Would be a wild toy if you ask me lol
i had a suzuki lt500r quadzilla. ported and polished head, fmf pipe,boysen reed cage,went up and down on the gearing totally sick but when it was brand new, before the mods. i smoked both my friends banshee every time!
First of all...this is not even me...its my brother...2nd of all the reason i posted this vid was because that cr500 hadnt lost in 40 rounds so i wanted to post...if you dont like it then dont look at my videos..pretty simple task now isnt it.
The Kx 500 was built for straight drag races/desert racing but not for monkeying around on tracks or doing jumps because it has way too much power for that. Dont be mad at me because your $9,000 450 4 stroke dirtbike cant beat a $1500.00 KX 500 SAD BUT TRUE!!!!!!!
My Kx 500 with a pipe will smoke any 450 4 stroke with a pipe. My bike piped produces about 64-65 ponies. I rode a couple 450's with pipes. They handled better, rode better, stopped better, and they looked a little more sleek and cooler. But they could not match the eye watering power like my KX 500 produces. So lick my left nut and kiss my proud white american ass!!! K5 rules every bike ever made!!
ya smoke a 450 in a straight line, or maybe a circle track, try smoking a 450 on a MX track with that ancient chassis and horrid braking and suspension......not gonna happen
@jarrodm2002 Service Honda now makes KX500's stuffed in the newest 450 frame. All though the engines are still 2004 series, 450 vs 500 in matched frames 450 does'nt stand a chance on any track straight,circle,or MX. Service Honda is still producing there CR500 aswell. The engines are 2001 series. The frames are 2009 250f, go figure.
its b/s 2T are fun as fuck. why do away with such a fun and amazing engine! ill keep my 2t till i die. 4stroke dose have its advantages but so do 2smoke. WTF happened to rider choice? i rather not ride then have some random guy choose what i can/cant ride
Bit like a color laser printer - Get it REAL CHEAP with a starter pack. WAIT TILL THE BILLS FOR CARTRIDGES APPEAR! Costs more than the whole farkin printer!
Besides from a power and torque aspect a 450 really does NOT PERFORM AT ALL!
As soon as you actually stop to think about it, its gutless.
Put DFi on the 2 stroke and it WILL go a whole lot harder More torque, HP and Less fuel consumption with LESS EMISSIONS - BAN 4T Now? No way tooo much $ to be made!
Which one? They ALL do around 48hp from the shop A pipe will add ½hp on a 4T - 4T does not want a pipe at all STRAIGHT THROUGH IS BEST - Check Akropovic website for dynos A cam may add a ½hp on a 450cc motor Check the HOTcams website for dyno's 1983 KTM500 = 65hp from the box 30 years ago. 09 Maico 500 = 67hp maicointernational(com) KTM250sx is > 50hp 300exc = 57.5hp with MORE torque than a 450 Look for dynochart on YouTube SX lap times for 250 in 2002 were? 09 450 lap times are?
The problem is that everybody SAYS it does 100hp but nobody can show a single reputable dyno? I have spent hours looking for even ONE legit calibrated reputable dyno Backyard dynos can be altered in the software to show anything the dyno owner wants it to show! He could show a 20hp increase for a regular service if he wanted to
Need a reputable dyno like Akropovic Hotcams MotoUSA and other like them...not the BS artist selling party tricks down the road to get more customers!
If you dont do the valves, valve SPRINGS, shims, pistons, rings inside 12 months for a weekend warrior YOU WILL BE SEEING A NUMBER STARTING WITH A 3 (THREE) !!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT A 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As in 30 something NOT 40 something HP
For comp you will see the 3 number inside 4 events!!!
Sorry, did not mean to piss you off at all - I am just a bit peeved with crap, fragile, wimpy motor!
They really are not that good at all at anything including torque.
Actually, We have had two of our previous crf 450r engines sold to karting customer's wich have been sent out to socal for tuning, they get the engine back and my buddy owns a local show and shine shop (w dyno) stock the dyno said 47 for one of the crf's with the cart mounted, it put down 65hp. with the same tourque figure's as stock, the only thing the builder said is, "it will win races" but it wont last long. haha, I always remember that phrase. a cr 500 is the same way, at 65hp= high strung
generally all big bore dirtbikes (race bred) are great machines for power/weight ratio. but Ive seen kid's on 125's beating 450's before, You want to compare 2 bike for power/power then drag race is how you do it. You HAVE to admit, that a 450 is a very impressive machine only putting out one powerstroke every 4th cycle. That's technology. If you guy's are looking for power, then buy a new kawi frame, and slap a zx 600rr engine = win strap a zx 14rr engine = DEATH LOL. anyways this video is good
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do you not have any common sense child? None of the japanese companies want to make a bike with 65hp, that costs 14,000 doller's new. Use your brain, Ps, Ive rebuilt a kx 500 before, and for all parts (and gaskets) i was 750 out the door.
I personally had my kx 125 rebuilt (Nikasil sleeve put in) wiseco top end rod gasket's etc. 750 out the door...
Nice try though, glad to know that a 14 year old child know's how to google a dodge hemi engine and compare it to a dirtbike, :S stick too books?
B) Youre the kid here with the compu games bit going.
C) If you paid $750 for $150 eBay part thats your problem. Most people wont pay $750 for a $150 packet of parts.
D) If you cant rebuild a 125 then there is a major problem. A 14 year old CAN!!!
E) You have never owned a KX500 - I have chatted to you before where you claimed to have 10 or so new bikes, a different bike on every post / page you made - You eventually forgot what bike you said you had LOL - remember
2T rebuild = Remove tank - 2 bolts & 1 Clip Remove Radiator hoses - 2 Remove 6 bolts - head & barrel Remove Pipe - 2 springs & 1 bolt Slide barrel up Remove 1 circlip Slip piston off Reverse the above = DONE 45mins and no genius needed 9 bolts 4 hose clamps 1 circlip NOT $750 for NORMAL customers, 12 year old can do this All 2T KX's have a Chrome/Nikasil barrel, thats why they dont die EVER That techie friend of yours cant create his own YouTube account
@gtyamaha its not as easy as 123 for alot of people thats why we are mechanically inclined and they are declined lmao and ya pricing on this is insane wtf must be getting a new hole put in the side of the cylinder ported polished and custom fitted to suck your cock. ahahah
@hondacr60r What the hell are you talking about? if YOU were to read all the comments and the persons that i was responding too then you'd understand. BUT NO you became a retard and started saying immature skank things to make you look cool.. The guy thati was talking too said he has a Tech as a room mate and spends 750$ to do a top end on a 125cc 2 stroke.. and i said ya right, 150$ is the best guess not 750,
ok justenduro i can see what your talking about, but think about it, 2 of the same cars, same wieght, both hold a 3:51, now both owners have worked this beast as far as they can possibley push it, yet car no1 has 100 more horsepower than the other, like in magazines you get a skyline thats 1000hp like thats about it aye thats about as far as it goes, but no some other cunt rocks up with 1200, point is you can always push more its like how theres always some1 better
@JustEnduro HA HA HA ,, Thats what those POS thumpers make? 48 horses. 250 2T made that in the 90's. Gees my 84 cr500 makes 58hp according to honda, whitch is probaly exagerated a little but damn my bike is 26 years old and air cooled. I still cant see the pull these thumpers have on the new generation riders. They need to wake up and smell the 2T oil burning. My frame is no match for the modern bike but the motor still beats down any 450 I come across.
@tappmoney18 Husky 450 2 stroke? Maybe not the best but tractor like torque.(sarcasm!) OH you mean 450 thumpers, they suck donkey balls. Please explain why they are the best, educatedly.
@tappmoney18 I dont mean to get into a heated fight with you, but you just whatched a vid of 2T's raceing. I see your young and you were knee high to a grasshopper when mx thumpers came out in 1997. You have been sucked into the comercial propaganda about 4T's. I admit they have come a long way in 12 years but they are now just comparable to the old 2T's. Imagine if 2T's had advanced the last 12 years also. I have ridden,raced,maintaned,and rebuilt both engines.2T's are far cheaper and easyer
@tappmoney18 im not fighting for or against two strokes but all im gonna say is that the main reason that two strokes are beginning to diminish from the factory line is because of "global warming" and "going green." two strokes work differently than four strokes and they release a nice white/blue smoke from the exhaust (apparently "bad" for the environment). But still thats why two stroke 125's race in 250 4t races..same thing with a 250 2t and 450 4strokes.
if that cr would have got any traction it would kill that kx but thats just the 500's a cr250 vs a kx250 the kx would win I ride a Kdx check out my sound and cold start vid
The KX 500 is a proven 500 weapon500. Just because you own a CR doesnt mean you have to knock the KX which will eat your CR. The KX has more horsepower than the CR. You should have bought a KX .I did. I was smart.
Look at the take off, the rear end of the CR was al over the place and shooting out tons of dirt, the kX wasnt shooting out much dirt in comparision and was going straight.
Thats just the observation its not meaning that the CR is better or the KX is better just stating what looks to have happened to the CR. The dirt could have been looser on that side or the rider attempted to give it too much and the KX rider kept that bike in control. both bikes are pretty powerful just looks like the CR was out of control from the hole and had no traction.
there both badass and actually start after you take a spill, something todays bikes cant match, the kx motor is easier to ride but the cr is super easy to maintain/ rebuild. flip a coin or choose a color!!!
both are powerful bikes. it only depends on the rider.but since the cr is simplier in design for having no powervalve mechanism, it is much easier to maintain.
1995 KLX650. Bought it new & radiator developed leaks, waterpump seal & cooling fan went out & had intermittent engine mis-firing problem....All these problems in under 8 mo old.....
but comming out of the corner is just ... being shot out of a cannon you get the wheel in to a rut an open the gas and you just get shot out , need to be carefull there , but its realy fun and fast to ride one
jumping is REALY good , its not as light as a 250 , but then again its far from as heavy than a 450 , so it jumps way better , and has loads of power
the power is different to , much more low end torque
The CR500 is even older The CR is a 1987 model sold until 02 The CR has no power valve and is wilder than a KX The KX lays on more HP a lot smoother across a wider rev range due to the power valve Stock 87 CR = 56Hp Stock 89 KX = 61Hp 09 Service Honda = 65Hp THEY ARE BOTH VERY FAST Both have more HP AND TORQUE than a 09 450-53hp Neither handles or jumps as well as 09 450 and are heavier with steel frames and NO brakes. Drag KX/CR kill the 450 BIG TIME! MX the 450 Kills CR/KX as it is an 2009
I believe the power valve is used to help bottom end power. At low rpms the valve partially closes the exhaust port and at high rpms it opens the port to normal size. At high speeds the cr and kx should be close. It is just the low end torque that separates the two. Regardless both are good proven bikes and if you own either one you have got a good machine that is a dying breed.
vr4evo is right A powervalve is for that "HIT" you would get in a 250 or 125, (essentially for you oil burning fucktard's It's where you hit the "POWERBAN") The kx 500 is for HUGE topend. the cr 500 is designed without a power valve for more low end. (tourque)
No 450R can win in a race unless the rider on the 500 doesn't know how to use it to it's potential. The 500 has more displacement AND it's a 2 stroke. Sorry but computerized shit isn't going to make up for that although it's quite nice. In theory, the KX500 should be significantly faster than the CR because it has a powervalve. I've never been blessed enough to ride one so maybe they're neck and neck but the powervalve is the reason why a Honda 250R or Suzuki LT250 can keep up with a banshee
wabashofutah 4 months ago
DUDE THE HONDA WOULD HAVE ONE IF HOMEBOY COULDA KEPT IT STRAIGHT... HE ALMOST LOST TOTAL CONTROL OFF THE LINE AND POPS IT UP LIKE A JACKASS.... IF HE KEPT BOTH TIRES DOWN AND DIDNT GET SIDEWAYS OFF THE LINE HE WON HANDS DOWN....
MrUrmother22 5 months ago
No shit dumb ass The 500cc won what are u on crack
justracingforfun 6 months ago
i think the 500cc won
DJRuteOfficial 7 months ago
i raced when bikes where aircooled with laydown shocks and now my knees and ankles are shot!! lol
commando7144 8 months ago
@commando7144 Damn I hear you on that. take lots of vitamin supps it helps
FANSYguy 2 weeks ago
Yamaha is the best and for a matter a fact i am i little rich ass blwing papa's doe so what i do what i want bitches
jonnyhenderson1 8 months ago
badass bikes
TheSupersample 9 months ago
alright half of you guys on this dont know what your talking about. first off, no CR 500 will beat a KX 500 stock. Kawasaki has KIPS. thats why Kawasaki 2 strokes are unbeatable. kawasaki 2 or 4 stroke either way they are on the podium. two strokes are unkillable. i have 5 kawis. and i have a 92 kx 250 with over 180 hours on the engine now i know it sounds impossble. but kawis are tough.
BBkawiracing 9 months ago
@BBkawiracing kawis are badass bikes i like how people talk shit on them and never rode one ive been ridin kawis sience i was 12 and i love the bikes ive been ridin sience 6 owned suzuki honda and yamaha but none of them match up to a good ole kawi
kawasaki380 9 months ago
its funny that the 500 strokes are only getting 65 horse and my ktm 85sx is getting 32 horse... nuff said
vincent12225 9 months ago
@vincent12225 and your point is?
kxmade 9 months ago
@kxmade that im getting half the horse but way less than half the cc
vincent12225 9 months ago
@vincent12225
yeah but id like to see ur little ktm go up against a kawi 85. and ktms break down so easy its not even funny, and yeah 32 really isnt much cause i have 01 kx 85 putting out 35. not that impressive buddy. stock 85's put out about 25 so uve added 7? woo hoo.
BBkawiracing 9 months ago
@BBkawiracing yeaa id eat your kawi alive yours puts out 27 and whatever youve done to it standard bore its only getting 32 and ive owned my ktm for 2 years and its never broke down and ive just actully im getting 34 get ur facts right honda 85 23hp, honda 150r 22hp, yamaha 85 17hp, kawi 85 27hp and KTM 85 29hp stock
vincent12225 9 months ago
@vincent12225 you tell me to get my facts straight. how old are you again? hmm? 8 ? you dont know shit budd. sorry to have to tell you. get it through your thick skull. and how do you know ? did you google it kid? sorry but ktm is good for a race or two. then you gotta replace every fucking. and obviously you do not race. so you have no clue i bet you havent done anything to your bike and i bet it runs like shit,
BBkawiracing 9 months ago
@vincent12225 and my kawi pitbike (85) isnt stock. and your changing your hp after every comment here.. hmm is that telling us something. again you dont know shit.
BBkawiracing 9 months ago
@BBkawiracing i do actually race and over the course of 2 years all ive done is replace the top end twice and im still hauling ass (past every lil kawi i see) and no sorry im not 8 like you im 15 thanks..asshole
vincent12225 9 months ago
@vincent12225 oh your reaaaalllly tough arent you? your 15 and your racing 85's i got off of racing 85's when i was 11 i started racing 250fs at 12. go grow a pair buddy. and your cool i can say asshole too
BBkawiracing 9 months ago
@BBkawiracing sorry im really short and cant afford a 250f your probably some rich kid spendin daddys money and is all smack
vincent12225 9 months ago
@vincent12225 yepp im totally rich buddy. im rolling in dough. i roll up in a 4 cylinder pick up with my bikes rusty and trusty. i pay for my bikes my self. i cant afford shops to do my stuff i do it the budget racer way. your a waste of time. bye maim
BBkawiracing 9 months ago
@vincent12225 i dont know man i still have my little yz85 and that things a ripper, i used to shit on 150f's all the time, so you might wanna check your facts.
YZblack221 9 months ago
@YZblack221 150f's a trail bike...150r is the 4 stroke 85 class racer
vincent12225 8 months ago
@vincent12225 i understand that but the 150r's just keep up with my YZ instead of blowing me away like your HP numbers would suggest I also used race my buddys bored out KX85 and we were side by side over the whoops
YZblack221 8 months ago
@vincent12225 a ktm 125 has 32hp so i dont think thier 85 is going to have 3hp less than that
honda150rrider1 8 months ago
If the CR500 didnt have 5x the power your KX did, it wouldnt have torn the track to pieces, and then wheeled half way down the track to barely lose. Your brother took off like a bitch and babied it out of the gate.
TGDecay 1 year ago
cr looks like he had more fun hahaha
yamaha2bangas 1 year ago
does anyone know the best teeth ratio front anf rear for a kx 85 in enduro?
cookiesyum23 1 year ago
@cookiesyum23 12/45
WFORACING2010 1 year ago
Still, Maicos 700 has 82 hp
MrWerty4567 1 year ago
im a proud owner of a 04'kx500 my third one well im slappin a paddle tire on for the first time racin some sand drags this weekend, anything i should no about the setup? ;-)
kxmade 1 year ago
@kxmade Change your front sprocket to a 15 tooth. Mud and depris wedge inbetween the chain and sprocket and like to ware out the engine case. My uncle had this problem on his KX500. Dealer said KX500 is known for it. I think its because there motor is based from 1989-2004 with no real changes. When KX used a O-ring chain, whitch is wider than standard chain there's no room for it. To keep your stock ratios change the rear to a 50 tooth. You might want 15 front and 48/49 rear for the desert.
joleenmorganjohn 1 year ago
i started out with a 86 kx 500 and it was a beast very unpreditable and very unreliable but the power was undeniable the cr is just the opposite well built and reliable so to calm the storm of you kx and cr haters it depends on your setup who's ever running good and can hold it down is the winner and clearly the cr got its ass kicked and i own 2 of them hats off to the kx.
manitourow 1 year ago
@manitourow i have a 86 KX500 and its super reliable and goes like a bat ourt of hell,
94Clubsport 1 year ago
stock KTM 450sx-f's are pushing 65hp
OriginalBroadcasting 1 year ago
obviouslt with the extended swingarm and more heavy mods on the cr it would beat a stock kx. but stock for stock everyone knows there is only one widow maker and its green not red.
Moroccan4lifeone 1 year ago
haha mate my mates cr85 is putting out 36hp
tadpoleluva 1 year ago
@tadpoleluva has a vivid imagination, no way an 85 is the same as a 250f
IamPwnagepie 2 months ago
KX500s came from factory with 65 HP......i know the KX is putting out more than 65, well was....it was our bike.
rigidshee 1 year ago
is that at slades park surry virginia because i saw the same 500 on my visit it beat a hayabusa
TheMeathead10 1 year ago
the only reason he lost is because the front end came up. Kawasaki sucks no matter what !
2006BansheeRider 1 year ago
i wanna fuck a cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
redcrow124 1 year ago
@redcrow124 these people are from virginia they probably already have. just ask em how it feels hahahahahahaha
frankyw729 1 year ago
htr
TheLick28 1 year ago
@just enduro 5.7 liters is 350 cubic inch im not trying to be a smart ass but i do work in a machine shop and have worked on lots of dirtbikes and cars
12345629026 1 year ago
the guy on the cr went a little crazy with the wheelies.... kx forever!
MetallicaOwns09 1 year ago
yeah fuck the 4 strokes,,thats right they are worked off there head from factory so trying for big power increases will lead to disaster,but the cr 500 is just a big docile pig with shit loads of potential hidden with in,i guess thats why we love them..
stu460 1 year ago
A friend of my father rebuilds old 500R Quadzillas. His personal bike is a 500Zilla with a Gixxer1100 engine tied in it. The thing's a death trap. He said he's done 90mph wheelies in 3rd gear. Would be a wild toy if you ask me lol
MrJrakk 2 years ago
i had a suzuki lt500r quadzilla. ported and polished head, fmf pipe,boysen reed cage,went up and down on the gearing totally sick but when it was brand new, before the mods. i smoked both my friends banshee every time!
1badla 2 years ago
lol keep the bike stright and on the ground
davonn5100 2 years ago
It matters who's behind the bike...
snowdirt77 2 years ago 7
Did Yamaha and Suzuki ever make a 500 2 stroke?
denardis345 2 years ago
not yahama, but the RM 500 :)
BrytaPlanka 2 years ago
Suzuki did, and yamaha made a yz490
wormjackel16 2 years ago
ymaha made a 490 but they ended that a long time ago
KICKERMAN124 2 years ago
@denardis345 yamaha 490- suzuki rm500
gizitizar 2 years ago
dont forget the lt500 quadzilla (even though its a quad) fastest quad ever made
rcvxl24 2 years ago
i have the younger brother of the quadzilla, a lt250r and man even though its only a 250 its still damn fast.
xTrueNightmaresx 2 years ago
what about a banshee sorry not really into quads
DylanAndersen 2 years ago
nope the zilla is officially the fastest but the banshees are fairly close
rcvxl24 2 years ago
THAT CR GOT HIS ASS SPANKED!!!!!!
32daysinthehole 2 years ago
why do you only post videos of ur wins. why dont u put up sum of all the times u got smoked
clh2025 2 years ago
First of all...this is not even me...its my brother...2nd of all the reason i posted this vid was because that cr500 hadnt lost in 40 rounds so i wanted to post...if you dont like it then dont look at my videos..pretty simple task now isnt it.
rigidshee 2 years ago 53
And your an idiot - I really like SOME of your drag vids! Ahhh there arnt any LOL
Easy from a keyboard!!!
Just a little tiny bit harder in real life, but a whole lot more fun I think.
PS: I have never done drags - both pilots I am sure are good though!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@clh2025 because nothing can beat kawis
cookiesyum23 1 year ago
The Kx 500 was built for straight drag races/desert racing but not for monkeying around on tracks or doing jumps because it has way too much power for that. Dont be mad at me because your $9,000 450 4 stroke dirtbike cant beat a $1500.00 KX 500 SAD BUT TRUE!!!!!!!
32daysinthehole 2 years ago
My Kx 500 with a pipe will smoke any 450 4 stroke with a pipe. My bike piped produces about 64-65 ponies. I rode a couple 450's with pipes. They handled better, rode better, stopped better, and they looked a little more sleek and cooler. But they could not match the eye watering power like my KX 500 produces. So lick my left nut and kiss my proud white american ass!!! K5 rules every bike ever made!!
32daysinthehole 2 years ago 6
ya smoke a 450 in a straight line, or maybe a circle track, try smoking a 450 on a MX track with that ancient chassis and horrid braking and suspension......not gonna happen
jarrodm2002 2 years ago
@jarrodm2002 Service Honda now makes KX500's stuffed in the newest 450 frame. All though the engines are still 2004 series, 450 vs 500 in matched frames 450 does'nt stand a chance on any track straight,circle,or MX. Service Honda is still producing there CR500 aswell. The engines are 2001 series. The frames are 2009 250f, go figure.
joleenmorganjohn 1 year ago
The AMA and FIM said 2 strokes WOULD race CC for CC in 2010 with the PRO's
Japan this week 10/09 said that if anybody arrives? at a pro event with a 2 stroke they will pull all their bikes from the event!
Anybody=Privateer or any other brand
AMA gave Japan what they wanted
Japan wont allow any factory rider to ride a 2T anywhere other than FMX or at home
POST THIS EVERY WHERE - MAKE NOISE AND BE HEARD
2T FTW
JustEnduro 2 years ago
its b/s 2T are fun as fuck. why do away with such a fun and amazing engine! ill keep my 2t till i die. 4stroke dose have its advantages but so do 2smoke. WTF happened to rider choice? i rather not ride then have some random guy choose what i can/cant ride
kevinreid 2 years ago 3
They ALL make BIG $ on parts!
Bit like a color laser printer - Get it REAL CHEAP with a starter pack. WAIT TILL THE BILLS FOR CARTRIDGES APPEAR! Costs more than the whole farkin printer!
Besides from a power and torque aspect a 450 really does NOT PERFORM AT ALL!
As soon as you actually stop to think about it, its gutless.
Put DFi on the 2 stroke and it WILL go a whole lot harder More torque, HP and Less fuel consumption with LESS EMISSIONS - BAN 4T Now? No way tooo much $ to be made!
JustEnduro 2 years ago 6
Actually a 450 can make 62hp....there are some here in VA that have done it. KX500 is stronger than a CR500...depending on who builds its.
rigidshee 2 years ago
JustEnduro 2 years ago 7
The problem is that everybody SAYS it does 100hp but nobody can show a single reputable dyno? I have spent hours looking for even ONE legit calibrated reputable dyno Backyard dynos can be altered in the software to show anything the dyno owner wants it to show! He could show a 20hp increase for a regular service if he wanted to
Need a reputable dyno like Akropovic Hotcams MotoUSA and other like them...not the BS artist selling party tricks down the road to get more customers!
Cars = same thing
JustEnduro 2 years ago 4
A 450 direct from Honda is a seriously worked close to the max already (Highly strung)
There is a power struggle going between themselves for sales based on handling weight and HP
You will NOT get 35% more hp than any of them can get from their own motor. 35% gain on a full race motor is HUGE!
Bit like buying a specialized V8 drag motor thats already worked and getting ANOTHER 35% mmm doubt it!
48hp new = LESS than 42hp after 6 months without a valve piston & shim job
Been there DONE THAT!
JustEnduro 2 years ago 16
Last one I promise!!!
If you dont do the valves, valve SPRINGS, shims, pistons, rings inside 12 months for a weekend warrior YOU WILL BE SEEING A NUMBER STARTING WITH A 3 (THREE) !!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT A 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As in 30 something NOT 40 something HP
For comp you will see the 3 number inside 4 events!!!
Sorry, did not mean to piss you off at all - I am just a bit peeved with crap, fragile, wimpy motor!
They really are not that good at all at anything including torque.
JustEnduro 2 years ago 9
Actually, We have had two of our previous crf 450r engines sold to karting customer's wich have been sent out to socal for tuning, they get the engine back and my buddy owns a local show and shine shop (w dyno) stock the dyno said 47 for one of the crf's with the cart mounted, it put down 65hp. with the same tourque figure's as stock, the only thing the builder said is, "it will win races" but it wont last long. haha, I always remember that phrase. a cr 500 is the same way, at 65hp= high strung
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
generally all big bore dirtbikes (race bred) are great machines for power/weight ratio. but Ive seen kid's on 125's beating 450's before, You want to compare 2 bike for power/power then drag race is how you do it. You HAVE to admit, that a 450 is a very impressive machine only putting out one powerstroke every 4th cycle. That's technology. If you guy's are looking for power, then buy a new kawi frame, and slap a zx 600rr engine = win strap a zx 14rr engine = DEATH LOL. anyways this video is good
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
A 35% increase in HP WOW
Fairly sure Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki would like to know how that was done as they all have been trying for a while now (10 years)
For a weekend warrior the CR500 motor will run for years before you do a rebuild
When it does need a rebuild it will cost around $150 for piston, rings, small end bearing, gudgeon pin and gasket kit Including postage
Repair done by a 14 year old in the backyard in 45mins
The CR500AF is hot but not strung - It is ported and blue printed
JustEnduro 2 years ago 4
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do you not have any common sense child? None of the japanese companies want to make a bike with 65hp, that costs 14,000 doller's new. Use your brain, Ps, Ive rebuilt a kx 500 before, and for all parts (and gaskets) i was 750 out the door.
I personally had my kx 125 rebuilt (Nikasil sleeve put in) wiseco top end rod gasket's etc. 750 out the door...
Nice try though, glad to know that a 14 year old child know's how to google a dodge hemi engine and compare it to a dirtbike, :S stick too books?
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
A) I'm not your child.
B) Youre the kid here with the compu games bit going.
C) If you paid $750 for $150 eBay part thats your problem. Most people wont pay $750 for a $150 packet of parts.
D) If you cant rebuild a 125 then there is a major problem. A 14 year old CAN!!!
E) You have never owned a KX500 - I have chatted to you before where you claimed to have 10 or so new bikes, a different bike on every post / page you made - You eventually forgot what bike you said you had LOL - remember
JustEnduro 2 years ago 3
A)don't be a smart ass
b)That's my room mate/friend he's a techy
c)I had the whole engine rebuilt and parts done for $750
d)I wouldn't trust anyone except a licensed Mechanic to do it, ESPECIALLY NOT a "14 year old"
E)Never said i had one said i rebuilt one, And wanna show me the comment where i posted what your claiming (prove) if you know what that means.
F) You keep referring to a "14 year old can" stop giving yourself away, your obviously a 14 year old, Who is (quite) the fan of 2 strokes..
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
JustEnduro 2 years ago 35
You rebuilt a KX500 but wont rebuild a 125???
You paid $750 (rip off) for the 125 from a shop?
You also paid $750 and did the 500 yourself?
If it smells like BS - Then it must be BS
mmmm for a big boy you really screwed up here somewhere LOL
I'm done...off to play some XBox. This was too easy and to lame even for me.
JustEnduro 2 years ago 2
wow your a retard...
A) you have no idea what your talking about
B) you spending 750$ to rebuilt a top end on a 125 your STUPID, its takes 150 at the most.
C)im 14 and i've rebuilt my kx 100/ cr250r/ kx 85 a couple of times, and they've all last over 50 hrs.
D) why would you pay 750$ if your roo mate is a tech? he can do it
E) if you can't replace a few gaskets, 1 piston, 2 rings, circlips, bearing, and a pin, then you need to learn. its as easy as 123... learn something
gtyamaha 2 years ago 4
@gtyamaha its not as easy as 123 for alot of people thats why we are mechanically inclined and they are declined lmao and ya pricing on this is insane wtf must be getting a new hole put in the side of the cylinder ported polished and custom fitted to suck your cock. ahahah
hondacr60r 1 year ago
@hondacr60r What the hell are you talking about? if YOU were to read all the comments and the persons that i was responding too then you'd understand. BUT NO you became a retard and started saying immature skank things to make you look cool.. The guy thati was talking too said he has a Tech as a room mate and spends 750$ to do a top end on a 125cc 2 stroke.. and i said ya right, 150$ is the best guess not 750,
gtyamaha 1 year ago
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stu460 1 year ago
ok justenduro i can see what your talking about, but think about it, 2 of the same cars, same wieght, both hold a 3:51, now both owners have worked this beast as far as they can possibley push it, yet car no1 has 100 more horsepower than the other, like in magazines you get a skyline thats 1000hp like thats about it aye thats about as far as it goes, but no some other cunt rocks up with 1200, point is you can always push more its like how theres always some1 better
SiMo666suzukiRider 2 years ago
Here is the problem in your theory
This is a .45L (less than a ½L) motor not a 351 cubic INCH motor
This is a single cyl not a V8
No turbos or superchargers to be bought!
All you can buy is a 2nd stage cam and or a pipe - Thats pretty much it
The CAM may increase you by 1hp (Check hot cams dyno's)
The pipe may give you another 1hp (Check Akropovic dyno's)
A 4% increase on HP from a performance motor is a lot.
It's a small 1 cylinder 450cc motor not a 5.7L V8 (351 cubic INCH motor)
JustEnduro 2 years ago
lol fair anough what you say seems to make sense ill take your word for it
SiMo666suzukiRider 2 years ago
@JustEnduro HA HA HA ,, Thats what those POS thumpers make? 48 horses. 250 2T made that in the 90's. Gees my 84 cr500 makes 58hp according to honda, whitch is probaly exagerated a little but damn my bike is 26 years old and air cooled. I still cant see the pull these thumpers have on the new generation riders. They need to wake up and smell the 2T oil burning. My frame is no match for the modern bike but the motor still beats down any 450 I come across.
joleenmorganjohn 1 year ago
@joleenmorganjohn 450's are the best
tappmoney18 1 year ago
@tappmoney18 Husky 450 2 stroke? Maybe not the best but tractor like torque.(sarcasm!) OH you mean 450 thumpers, they suck donkey balls. Please explain why they are the best, educatedly.
joleenmorganjohn 1 year ago
@joleenmorganjohn if 2 strokes where sooo great they would still race them obviously there not...
tappmoney18 1 year ago
@tappmoney18 I dont mean to get into a heated fight with you, but you just whatched a vid of 2T's raceing. I see your young and you were knee high to a grasshopper when mx thumpers came out in 1997. You have been sucked into the comercial propaganda about 4T's. I admit they have come a long way in 12 years but they are now just comparable to the old 2T's. Imagine if 2T's had advanced the last 12 years also. I have ridden,raced,maintaned,and rebuilt both engines.2T's are far cheaper and easyer
joleenmorganjohn 1 year ago
@joleenmorganjohn i will give you that 1....thats fair enough
tappmoney18 1 year ago
@tappmoney18 im not fighting for or against two strokes but all im gonna say is that the main reason that two strokes are beginning to diminish from the factory line is because of "global warming" and "going green." two strokes work differently than four strokes and they release a nice white/blue smoke from the exhaust (apparently "bad" for the environment). But still thats why two stroke 125's race in 250 4t races..same thing with a 250 2t and 450 4strokes.
hondatb08 1 year ago
@hondatb08 An injected 2stroke (see"project two50") would easily beat the emissions of a race 4 joke using upper cylinder lube anyway.
MrLunithy 1 year ago
@MrLunithy but thats not a traditional two-stroke..i would agree that they would emit less if it was injected though
hondatb08 1 year ago
@tappmoney18 Its all about emmisions. 10 years ago rumors were going around that 2T 's would be outlawed by 2010
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ALpha101 10 months ago
@rigidshee From what i have heard, both kx's and cr's put out around 65 horespower, so they are pretty even.
pahle1 1 year ago
@rigidshee My buddys CR500 has 100 horse power
ChrisMX3417 1 year ago
@ChrisMX3417 100hp? not in the real world.
gilessmokey 10 months ago
@rigidshee
yea fowler told me they got 10 grand in B1 but it still wont beat dan fowlers 500
WMdotcom 1 year ago
@rigidshee still more hp than a honda accord haha
dk101motocross 11 months ago
@rigidshee A 450 can make 62hp for about 30 minutes then it costs 3 grand to put it back together
turbolq4 10 months ago
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Yeah it's 62 at the crank numscles and it puts 56 to the tires and it's fully cabable of beating a stock 500, I have over 1500 invested
Scott07kx450 2 years ago
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How much hp r u making with that bike, I have about 1500 invested into my kx450f and I'm making 62 at the crank, that's about what a stock 500 makes
Scott07kx450 2 years ago
1983 CR500=49hp
1989 CR500=56hp
CR500AF=65hp
A 450 cant make 62hp not even close - try taking off about 15hp - no addon can add 25% power
JustEnduro 2 years ago 2
Hu gives a fuck,both r 2strokes with real power,i have both,they r extreamly dangerous if not handle right.
herse88 2 years ago
everyone knows the kx is the faster 500.
rhodeislandrasta 2 years ago
if that cr would have got any traction it would kill that kx but thats just the 500's a cr250 vs a kx250 the kx would win I ride a Kdx check out my sound and cold start vid
AustinC5570 2 years ago
FAAAAAKE!!!!!!! if that was a true race, tha CR500 would blow away that little noob kawasaki!
rital312 2 years ago
The KX 500 is a proven 500 weapon500. Just because you own a CR doesnt mean you have to knock the KX which will eat your CR. The KX has more horsepower than the CR. You should have bought a KX .I did. I was smart.
32daysinthehole 2 years ago
Until it comes time for a new clutch, then you wish you had the cr
Prickface20 2 years ago
hahahaha noooob? u called a motorcycle a nooob? Are you retarded?
LordSamuelJ 2 years ago
The CR wasnt getting any traction, then when it did grab the front end came right up. The KX got a lot of traction.
tobyeo 2 years ago
Look at the take off, the rear end of the CR was al over the place and shooting out tons of dirt, the kX wasnt shooting out much dirt in comparision and was going straight.
tobyeo 2 years ago
Thats just the observation its not meaning that the CR is better or the KX is better just stating what looks to have happened to the CR. The dirt could have been looser on that side or the rider attempted to give it too much and the KX rider kept that bike in control. both bikes are pretty powerful just looks like the CR was out of control from the hole and had no traction.
tobyeo 2 years ago
Agreed!!!
They are both very quick. Just a traction problem, or should I say 2 stroke traction issue.
The CR is a slightly shorter bike which would not do it any favors in this type of event. Might give it the upper hand on a tighter MX event?
I like them both!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
there both badass and actually start after you take a spill, something todays bikes cant match, the kx motor is easier to ride but the cr is super easy to maintain/ rebuild. flip a coin or choose a color!!!
PanderChick 2 years ago
witch 1 wone b
mrpolarisfusion900 2 years ago
kx and cr 500 are both beasts , non of us can fully use one , so why fight over wich one is the best -_-
supermotardmario 2 years ago 6
agreed
scottdeshon 2 years ago
both are powerful bikes. it only depends on the rider.but since the cr is simplier in design for having no powervalve mechanism, it is much easier to maintain.
0budget 2 years ago
ya, I wouldn't want to ride either one of these bikes on the edge since they both handle and stop like turds.
JOHNNYGIX 2 years ago
im just back from the proximus superbiker , and kicked alot of 4stroke`s asses with my 500 :p
supermotardmario 2 years ago
You must be a ballz out rider!! :)
JOHNNYGIX 2 years ago
1995 KLX650. Bought it new & radiator developed leaks, waterpump seal & cooling fan went out & had intermittent engine mis-firing problem....All these problems in under 8 mo old.....
daibloiiiii 2 years ago
Win or lose, I'd rather have the honda. Every kawasaki I've ever owned had flimsy build quality
daibloiiiii 2 years ago 2
stock vs stock wich one wins
KrazyRMjumps 2 years ago
depends on the rider, the guy on that cr was all over the place. he would have given the kx a run for his money if he had kept it in a straight line.
scottdeshon 2 years ago
i want one ive never been on a 500 how r they on jump and corners... is it a big difference from a 250 2t
KrazyRMjumps 2 years ago
i have a 2001 cr500
and it corners almost similar
but comming out of the corner is just ... being shot out of a cannon you get the wheel in to a rut an open the gas and you just get shot out , need to be carefull there , but its realy fun and fast to ride one
jumping is REALY good , its not as light as a 250 , but then again its far from as heavy than a 450 , so it jumps way better , and has loads of power
the power is different to , much more low end torque
supermotardmario 2 years ago 3
thnx bro cause i found an 86 on craigslist for 1000 i might get it..
KrazyRMjumps 2 years ago
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stock vs stock the 500 has allot more power, though the only 250 ive ridden was a fully built 93 rm, that would keep up with the 500's pretty well
scottdeshon 2 years ago
HUGE diffs to a 250 (Chalk and Cheese)
Just like 85 vs 125 or 125 vs 250 there are big jumps in power. The KX500 did 61Hp stock in 1989.
It jumps / flys like a BRICK with 1989 suspension and brakes with a steel frame.
Kawasaki sold the 1989 bike all the way to 2004 with SLIGHT / SMALL / tiny changes.
Hill0Billy 2 years ago 4
Hill0Billy 2 years ago 2
AND THE KX WINS!!!!!!! FUCK HONDAS ALL DAY KXs FOR LIFE!!
TheKX85KID 2 years ago
did you not notice the cr couldnt keep the front tire down lol?
yamahamoto250 2 years ago 3
That's kus they don't have powervalves haha.
elemento1991 2 years ago
i have a 89 cr 500,it doesnt have a power valve,but the 93 or 94 and up does.
tp103098 2 years ago
I've got a 1997 CR500, no power valve on it !
runisle 2 years ago
my 2001 does not have one , its just one year they had it if i remembetr correctly
supermotardmario 2 years ago
I believe the power valve is used to help bottom end power. At low rpms the valve partially closes the exhaust port and at high rpms it opens the port to normal size. At high speeds the cr and kx should be close. It is just the low end torque that separates the two. Regardless both are good proven bikes and if you own either one you have got a good machine that is a dying breed.
bigredkx500 2 years ago
hell ya y are ppl all on yamahas dipstick now jump on a good brand like honda
MaLoBoI216 2 years ago
cr doesn't have a powervalve so its top end sucks compared to the kx which does
vr4evo 3 years ago
honda was the first to have my power valve dumbasss
MaLoBoI216 2 years ago
hey you fucking retard, show me the powervalve on a cr 500. 125 and 250 has one not the cr500 you cumguzzler.
vr4evo 2 years ago
vr4evo is right A powervalve is for that "HIT" you would get in a 250 or 125, (essentially for you oil burning fucktard's It's where you hit the "POWERBAN") The kx 500 is for HUGE topend. the cr 500 is designed without a power valve for more low end. (tourque)
technineriderTEH 2 years ago
kx all life long
dirtbikerider909 3 years ago
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im 15 and 164 cm but FUCK i still want one of these animals !!!
MATEtheWORKZ 3 years ago
clash of the Titans
dirtrideryzrthebest 3 years ago 9
looked like the cr500 was all over the place on the launch but both sick bikes
4g63junkie 3 years ago 2