@Iceman00000 because they consider an accidental discharge when the gun fires at a time that it should not fire more commonly known as a malfunction, what is shown is a negligent discharge that can be remedied through dry fire training.
once we were at the range here in australia and my mate fired his .243 but the bullet was a dud and he did not follow or know the rules with what to do with a dud but he unbolted it and when the bullet was released it fired . lucky no one was harmed but the shell did shatter the glass behind us
Unfortunately we just had an AD at one of my local ranges...the guy was practicing drawing and holstering....well he ended up getting a FMJ down his leg and out the sole of his foot....its a shame...alot of NDs and ADs can be avoided....its terrible when i go to the range and see bullet holes ALL OVER the lanes....some people just should NOT own weapons...
More properly termed "Negligent Discharge" Cocking a DA revolver to SA, putting your trigger finger on the approx 2 lb trigger while recovering from the recoil of a previous shot & trying to re- align the sight(s) on a previous engaged target down range did NOT result in a " accident;unforeseen or unplanned event." Blatant violation of Rule 3
Good mistake to learn from... keep the fucking finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
Handled it well, hopefully he'll never do it again as a result. And even better, hopefully the entire range can learn from it if they have a lessons learned post board.
That's why we usually instruct people to cock the hammer using their support hand, so that you don't sympathetically pull the trigger at the same time (if you were to neglect to remove your stupid pink thing from the trigger)
I totally disagree with the title...there's no such thing as an "accidental" discharge, only NEGLIGENT ones.
Accidents cannot be avoided. Something like being hit by lightning, or having a jet crash on your house. To have a gun go off when you didn't intend for it to, means you're a dumbass, and need your guns taken from you.
I have a dictionary as well, but my years of experience in safety/ risk management have taught me that the root causation either can or cannot be avoided. Proper training, supervision and practice avoid events like this.
I'm sure you're a nice person, but if you feel this was not negligent, you won't be welcome at my range anytime
His finger slipped off the hammer as he was cocking the gun...it happens and lack of training doesn't cause it to happen, a slick hammer with a gloved thumb is the cause.
As long as he doesn't leave the thing cocked on the table pointed at other people, it's not that big a deal. Chill.
Not having complete control at ALL times, in ALL circumstances is negligent, weather or not a round goes down range.
Casual, even complacent, attitudes such as yours, are what fuels anti-gun sentiments, leading to further gun control legislation, rather than gun controlling fingers.
And for the record...I am quite "chill" as you so eloquently put it. I just hate to see poor attitudes and actions jeapordize my rights.
The guy wasn't free-handing it sideways, he wasn't pointing it at people, he wasn't pointing it at himself, it was an honest mistake and something anyone at any expertise could do. I don't see how any anti-gun nut could look at this and say "that guy is dangerous!" he kept it pointed downrange the whole time and wasn't blasting it like Wyatt Earp.
So again: Chill. You're blowing it way out of proportion.
Another thing...saying someone needs their guns taken away from them because they aren't up to YOUR STANDARDS of expertise, that's as idiotic as you called my comment. One mistake doesn't exclude someone from being eligible to own a weapon. I'm sure you had a misfire at least once in your life...let's take your guns away! Torches and Pitchforks! Down with the inexperienced gun noob! Come on...honest mistake and he dealt with it well. Not like the muzzle came up, not like he threw the gun away.
What did I call you? Get your head out of your ass, cochise. If you can't argue, don't come back with some juvenile BS to get "the last word in"...you know you were overly critical of a simple mistake and you're trying to save face. You could do that much easier by saying "yeah you're right". Try it, it'll feel good.
"Call me what you will" was aimed at your initial thought upon reading my last post. Read something without pictures, and the nuance of the english language will show itself.
My time is too valuable to spend reading your pointless diatribe, so consider this my last response. Go bother someone else, I do not deserve all of your precious time and attention.
LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD.
That's all I read. G'day. If you don't have the time to spend getting the last word in, stop trying. You're a moron. And for the record, that's the first thing I called you.
he slipped up and kept the trigger depressed while cocking the hammer. it happens, practice makes perfect. Can't become skilled if you don't practice.
@lexmark136 From the video we can identify that;The shooter intentionally left his finger on the trigger while cocking, this is expected and not unusual in lesser trained individuals. Which resulted in an unexpected and unintended discharge at this particular time a place-i.e. One would expect possible neg discharges at an indoor range whilst persons are firing.There was no unpredictable accident here
a double action revolver wont shoot without the trigger pulled the old colt single actions will he bumped the trigger after he cocked the hammer i hate to admit it but ive done it too my s&w has a dangerously light sa trigger pull ive seen automatics go full auto when the firing pin got stuck forward on a pos stallard 9mm and a yugo SKS that someone failed to clean and inspect your firing pin should move freely and not bind up clean the cosmoline off
By the way, I applaud the posters modesty/honesty for sharing his mistakes so that others can learn. Most people have too much of an ego to share their mess ups.
His thumb slipped off the hammer... at least it was pointed in a safe direction. Do people generally treat hammers with the same safety precautions as a second trigger?
Accident CAN mean that it was his fault. Just cause we label an occurrence accidental it does not mean that responsibility is relinquished. It simply means that it was not intended. The person had not formed the thought that...ah I will now fire the gun.
Really?.... name one,....the gun does not discharge on its own. It only discharges when the operator does something to cause it to. If its not when you intend it to, then you are negligent.
Hogwash. A negligent attitude may lead to an accidental discharge. And there are other things than negligence that can lead to accidental discharges as well.
do you know anything? one of the fundamental rules of firearms- keep your finger OFF the trigger. your finger doesnt "slip", not even with a revolver (i fail to see how that would even make a difference) as you would have learned had you ever been on one visit to the range. one thing if you're ignorant, another when you try to convince others to become unsafe.
Ok, now I can see the second shot being an accidental discharge, as it appears he fied while still zeroing in, as if he already had the finger on the trigger, and got a little clumsy. Perfect example of the "keep your finger off the trigger, and do not put it on the trigger unless you intend to fire" rule that I make my nephews follow when plinking with them
Reason for posting was I could tell him he was on youtube and I hoped he would pay more attention next time. ( as in make him a safer shooter) unfortunately it turned out he cannot work a computer.
Later he fired a round without powder, bullet went halfway the barrel, before he noticed he had fired 3 more life rounds. And still the gun works. ( after hammering out 4 bulletheads.)
that was none of the above, it was someone else firing, as you'll notice, that there are two shots made that sound as if they have an echo whereas the rest do not, that was actually another firearm going off, and so was the last, as if you watch closely, there is no recoil from the weapon on camera when you hear the shot
bullcrap. you can see the muzzle blast and recoil on the AD shot. look closely. The aimed shots echoed because they hit the targets (steel plates) the AD shot didn't because it would have just hit the backstop
Another case of poor shooting safety - he should give up shooting and take up knitting. KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER! How can anyone post a video that makes them look like a complete fool?
Looks like a modern revolver thus if he didn't have his finger on the trigger, it wouldn't be able to fire even if the hammer was dropped on a live round. Transfer bar safety or similar safety would see to that, assuming no malfunction.
Guy probably just had his finger in the trigger guard. Bad dog.
@Iceman00000 because they consider an accidental discharge when the gun fires at a time that it should not fire more commonly known as a malfunction, what is shown is a negligent discharge that can be remedied through dry fire training.
Reynard13Fuchs 6 months ago
that would technically be considered a negligent discharge, an accidental discharge would be the firearm itself malfunctioning.
richardzapata357 9 months ago
I knew as soon as i saw the name of this video some quick witted virgin would have made some sort of sex reference.
MoTuWeThFrSaSu 1 year ago
This was all your fault. Very dangerous.
HiCapacity 1 year ago
Operator error, its not accidental if his finger hit the trigger :P
om3gadagg3r 1 year ago
I had an AD with a remington 700 in hunting stock config at 100 yards and hit the bullseye. Perfect shot, all by accident.
peptobismol9 1 year ago
Amateur
tradetodeath 1 year ago
this just looks out of synch
Weslo2 1 year ago
Follow the rules, and remember to count your rounds!
cybervore 1 year ago
Right on netfaux. Negligent discharge.
kedisy 2 years ago 3
once we were at the range here in australia and my mate fired his .243 but the bullet was a dud and he did not follow or know the rules with what to do with a dud but he unbolted it and when the bullet was released it fired . lucky no one was harmed but the shell did shatter the glass behind us
nasr2nv 2 years ago
Unfortunately we just had an AD at one of my local ranges...the guy was practicing drawing and holstering....well he ended up getting a FMJ down his leg and out the sole of his foot....its a shame...alot of NDs and ADs can be avoided....its terrible when i go to the range and see bullet holes ALL OVER the lanes....some people just should NOT own weapons...
~MDZ
mdeezie1287 2 years ago
So true so true, Simply be smart and follow the rules and you can easily manage a gun. I hate dumb people F!
itsadeadmansparty 1 year ago
LOL AT 0:02 he shoot, but he didnt wanted to shoot
Tschicci 2 years ago
i had an accidental discharge in bed once... and never called the girl back again
jimnumberuno 2 years ago 36
very funny!
we have all done that dude!
adasnodgrass 1 year ago
hahahahah
MrDip02 1 year ago
@jimnumberuno lol u ledgend
;)
darkeye198 1 year ago
More properly termed "Negligent Discharge" Cocking a DA revolver to SA, putting your trigger finger on the approx 2 lb trigger while recovering from the recoil of a previous shot & trying to re- align the sight(s) on a previous engaged target down range did NOT result in a " accident;unforeseen or unplanned event." Blatant violation of Rule 3
sbd45acp 2 years ago 4
@sbd45acp is 100% accurate. Title of this vid is incorrect.
PowerInMN 1 year ago
Good mistake to learn from... keep the fucking finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
Handled it well, hopefully he'll never do it again as a result. And even better, hopefully the entire range can learn from it if they have a lessons learned post board.
rocket881 2 years ago 3
That's why we usually instruct people to cock the hammer using their support hand, so that you don't sympathetically pull the trigger at the same time (if you were to neglect to remove your stupid pink thing from the trigger)
CrippledPidgeon 2 years ago
Negligent discharge, not accidental. It's alright though. Nobody got hurt. Be more careful next time.
netfaux 2 years ago
stifsim, you are an idiot.
no harm no foul here, that's why they tel you to keep the weapon pointed down range
p951951951t 2 years ago 2
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RichmanJ93 2 years ago
in response to the title of this video:
That's what she said.
7m28 2 years ago 4
lmfao that was great
file0save0studios 2 years ago
I totally disagree with the title...there's no such thing as an "accidental" discharge, only NEGLIGENT ones.
Accidents cannot be avoided. Something like being hit by lightning, or having a jet crash on your house. To have a gun go off when you didn't intend for it to, means you're a dumbass, and need your guns taken from you.
Stifsim6 2 years ago 7
An accident is a specific, identifiable, unexpected, unusual and unintended external action which occurs in a particular time and place.
That title is correct.
lexmark136 2 years ago
I have a dictionary as well, but my years of experience in safety/ risk management have taught me that the root causation either can or cannot be avoided. Proper training, supervision and practice avoid events like this.
I'm sure you're a nice person, but if you feel this was not negligent, you won't be welcome at my range anytime
Stifsim6 2 years ago
His finger slipped off the hammer as he was cocking the gun...it happens and lack of training doesn't cause it to happen, a slick hammer with a gloved thumb is the cause.
As long as he doesn't leave the thing cocked on the table pointed at other people, it's not that big a deal. Chill.
TJvigilante 2 years ago
Guns are designed and intended to kill, period.
Not having complete control at ALL times, in ALL circumstances is negligent, weather or not a round goes down range.
Casual, even complacent, attitudes such as yours, are what fuels anti-gun sentiments, leading to further gun control legislation, rather than gun controlling fingers.
And for the record...I am quite "chill" as you so eloquently put it. I just hate to see poor attitudes and actions jeapordize my rights.
Stifsim6 2 years ago 4
The guy wasn't free-handing it sideways, he wasn't pointing it at people, he wasn't pointing it at himself, it was an honest mistake and something anyone at any expertise could do. I don't see how any anti-gun nut could look at this and say "that guy is dangerous!" he kept it pointed downrange the whole time and wasn't blasting it like Wyatt Earp.
So again: Chill. You're blowing it way out of proportion.
TJvigilante 2 years ago
Another thing...saying someone needs their guns taken away from them because they aren't up to YOUR STANDARDS of expertise, that's as idiotic as you called my comment. One mistake doesn't exclude someone from being eligible to own a weapon. I'm sure you had a misfire at least once in your life...let's take your guns away! Torches and Pitchforks! Down with the inexperienced gun noob! Come on...honest mistake and he dealt with it well. Not like the muzzle came up, not like he threw the gun away.
TJvigilante 2 years ago
Call me what you will, and pretend REALLY hard that I give a shit....okay, pumpkin?
Stifsim6 2 years ago
What did I call you? Get your head out of your ass, cochise. If you can't argue, don't come back with some juvenile BS to get "the last word in"...you know you were overly critical of a simple mistake and you're trying to save face. You could do that much easier by saying "yeah you're right". Try it, it'll feel good.
TJvigilante 2 years ago
"Call me what you will" was aimed at your initial thought upon reading my last post. Read something without pictures, and the nuance of the english language will show itself.
My time is too valuable to spend reading your pointless diatribe, so consider this my last response. Go bother someone else, I do not deserve all of your precious time and attention.
Copy me, champ? Over and out.
Stifsim6 2 years ago
LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD LAST WORD.
That's all I read. G'day. If you don't have the time to spend getting the last word in, stop trying. You're a moron. And for the record, that's the first thing I called you.
TJvigilante 2 years ago
revolvers today won't shoot unless the trigger is depressed. the hammer he pulls with his thumb doesn't come in contact with the firing pin.
finger straight and off the trigger until you're ready to fire..
pcramil 2 years ago
he slipped up and kept the trigger depressed while cocking the hammer. it happens, practice makes perfect. Can't become skilled if you don't practice.
TJvigilante 2 years ago
@lexmark136 From the video we can identify that;The shooter intentionally left his finger on the trigger while cocking, this is expected and not unusual in lesser trained individuals. Which resulted in an unexpected and unintended discharge at this particular time a place-i.e. One would expect possible neg discharges at an indoor range whilst persons are firing.There was no unpredictable accident here
sbd45acp 1 year ago
This is exactly what happens when people do not seek proper training.
cantstandfools 3 years ago
At least he didn't do that on an auto or else he could have lost that finger
CrippledPidgeon 3 years ago
turboMATRIX03 3 years ago 2
By the way, I applaud the posters modesty/honesty for sharing his mistakes so that others can learn. Most people have too much of an ego to share their mess ups.
jamesecash 3 years ago 14
@jamesecash
he is an asian/muslim type.
asain dont have an ego nor a life to care abute
emperror333 1 year ago
His thumb slipped off the hammer... at least it was pointed in a safe direction. Do people generally treat hammers with the same safety precautions as a second trigger?
jamesecash 3 years ago
nope. its a ruger gp100, it cant fire unless the trigger is fully depressed.
EricandJr 3 years ago
a accident implies that it wasn't his falt, it was his falt. Hang on 2 ur gun!!!!
bigfiskee 3 years ago
Accident CAN mean that it was his fault. Just cause we label an occurrence accidental it does not mean that responsibility is relinquished. It simply means that it was not intended. The person had not formed the thought that...ah I will now fire the gun.
dd100k 3 years ago
Indeed you are right, i missed the point.
blijfbezig 3 years ago
you missed the point. If a gun gets dropped, the owner in negligent
bleuzmaster 3 years ago
if a dropped gun fires, the gun is malfunctioning.
blijfbezig 3 years ago 3
Unless the gun in question has been modified with a lightened trigger or is not equipped with a transfer bar (early Colt 45's, for example).
Helo229 3 years ago
@blijfbezig not if the guns trigger hits somthing witch acts like your fingering firing it off
you clearly have never shot a gun if you think that dropping a gun wont ever make it fire
with33 1 year ago
if you drop a loaded gun and it fires..... you are N-E-G-L-I-G-E-N-T duh
bleuzmaster 3 years ago
it wasnt accidental, it was slow. these people are idiots.
Duckyistrippin 3 years ago
Really?.... name one,....the gun does not discharge on its own. It only discharges when the operator does something to cause it to. If its not when you intend it to, then you are negligent.
bleuzmaster 3 years ago
if anything, though, better to be negligent with the muzzle pointed at a target than anywhere else.
firstrush 3 years ago
Ted Nugent says there is no such thing as an "accidental" discharge. Its a "negligent" discharge
bleuzmaster 4 years ago
This is true, if your finger pulled the trigger it's considered "negligent". Accidental is if the gun was dropped, etc..and fired.
southpaw1969 4 years ago
Hogwash. A negligent attitude may lead to an accidental discharge. And there are other things than negligence that can lead to accidental discharges as well.
mkarnerfors 3 years ago
HEY, THIS IS A REAL ACCIDENTAL DISSCHARGE... TYPE THIS IN: More Idiot Gangsters showing off their Guns
YOU WILL BE AMAZED,
KPHI23 4 years ago
thats not even bad? that happens with revolvers..your finger just slips
ninoc123456 4 years ago
do you know anything? one of the fundamental rules of firearms- keep your finger OFF the trigger. your finger doesnt "slip", not even with a revolver (i fail to see how that would even make a difference) as you would have learned had you ever been on one visit to the range. one thing if you're ignorant, another when you try to convince others to become unsafe.
firstrush 3 years ago
2nd shot was the misfire. If he ever encounters a burglar, the burglar would shout "aim on me, here i am, aim on me":-)
blijfbezig 4 years ago
Ok, now I can see the second shot being an accidental discharge, as it appears he fied while still zeroing in, as if he already had the finger on the trigger, and got a little clumsy. Perfect example of the "keep your finger off the trigger, and do not put it on the trigger unless you intend to fire" rule that I make my nephews follow when plinking with them
Fentanyl3 4 years ago
@blijfbezig ur a fagg stfu
gordddyle 1 year ago
Where was the missed fired ? He can't hit the side of the barn, that's all.
memadman 4 years ago
sorry guys and girls, I was there and filmed it.
He absolutely cocks the hammer fully and AD's.
Reason for posting was I could tell him he was on youtube and I hoped he would pay more attention next time. ( as in make him a safer shooter) unfortunately it turned out he cannot work a computer.
Later he fired a round without powder, bullet went halfway the barrel, before he noticed he had fired 3 more life rounds. And still the gun works. ( after hammering out 4 bulletheads.)
blijfbezig 4 years ago
@blijfbezig tell your friend to release the trigger if he wants to manually cock the hammer
rookiemcm77 6 months ago
that was none of the above, it was someone else firing, as you'll notice, that there are two shots made that sound as if they have an echo whereas the rest do not, that was actually another firearm going off, and so was the last, as if you watch closely, there is no recoil from the weapon on camera when you hear the shot
Fentanyl3 4 years ago
bullcrap. you can see the muzzle blast and recoil on the AD shot. look closely. The aimed shots echoed because they hit the targets (steel plates) the AD shot didn't because it would have just hit the backstop
ZhrooZhroo 4 years ago
Why don't you read my rebuttal before being an arse
Fentanyl3 4 years ago
Another case of poor shooting safety - he should give up shooting and take up knitting. KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER! How can anyone post a video that makes them look like a complete fool?
Deputy57 4 years ago
Looks like a modern revolver thus if he didn't have his finger on the trigger, it wouldn't be able to fire even if the hammer was dropped on a live round. Transfer bar safety or similar safety would see to that, assuming no malfunction.
Guy probably just had his finger in the trigger guard. Bad dog.
leroyspunkin 4 years ago
it more so appears that he didnt cock the hammer back all the way and it fell onto the cartridge
spankaveli 4 years ago
That's not an AD that appears to be a hang fire when the cartridge does not immeditly fire probably due to a faulty primer
killerpiggy9 4 years ago
huh?
hershog 4 years ago
Idiot
frzburn 4 years ago