Okay, then lets be clear - this is what you said"read up on concentration camps - the Nazis learnt that from you Brits in the Boer War." and " Poison gas was not an option probably because technology hadn't advanced that much."
I don't know about you but, to me at least, you were comparing the British camps in South Africa with Nazi death camps and suggesting that they would have attempted to kill millions if only they had the gas... Clear enough?
God had little to do with it. It was their own hard work, to fight and die alone, until the US could no longer make a profit and had to enter the war themselves.
Yeah, those damn Americans. We British & the French put the screws to the Germans after WW1 because of our glorious European rivalrie... er, traditions, leading to the rise of the Nazis. And these Americans, they don't rush in to join the fight that we, the glorious British & French, had a hand in causing because of our vengeful treatment of Germany after WW1. When did these Americans get the idea that they are not our servants?
Wow, an American distorting the truth & lying. Bet you don't know anything about history before Pearl Harbor do you. Most of us who don't read about actual history don't.
Do some reading son, Lordzeno is actually right. The US came roaring out of the depression thank to WW2 manufacturing after the US created GREAT DEPRESSION.
BTW, the US was fine with Nazi rule, having modelled their laws after the Jim Crow laws your country had.
The similarities between American racism & Nazi ideology are irrelevant to this topic. The fact is, WW1 was caused by European rivalries over colonies. WW2 was caused by the Nazis, who came to power because the Europeans thoroughly screwed over Germany in the Versailles Treaty.
Britain was able to defend itself against Nazi invasion simply because of American lend-and-lease deals.
But then, these facts are too complex for you to learn.
It's funny you think I'm pro UK, the only thing I'm not being is blatantly pro US, like you.
Concentration camps? Shall we talk US civil war then if you want to go back in history?
You're an idiot looking for a fight where there is non. Accept that WW2 was complex on many levels, the US is not just some great moral authority but had many reasons for what it did during those times.
You are a retard ranting about things you have no concept of and cannot even begin to understand even if you tried.
"Moral authority"!? I never mentioned moral authority. European countries must accept the blame for the disasters they caused; anyway they survived the disasters only with US aid like lend-lease etc, that was what I said.
Go easy with the ale at the pub. You will be able to understand others' posts when you are sober.
The major difference between the British and Nazi concentration camps was the people left the British ones through the gates and not through the chimneys.
A large number of the inmates in British concentration camps died of starvation and disease. Poison gas was not an option probably because technology hadn't advanced that much.
Technically, you are right, all the inmates left the British concentartion camps through the gates, but a large number of them were just corpses and they were probably carried out through the gates to be buried.
Absolute nonsense, where you get your "facts" from beggers belief. It is true that disease and malnutrition did take a heavy toll by the end conditions had improved to the point where the death rate was lower that many british cities at that time. The real fact that extermination was not the purpose, a degree of neglect by the, Conservative, government was very much the case but no worse than the poor of many Industrialised nations.
The death rate, totalling 26,000 was not helped by the medical practices of the time. The British parliament and population rallied against Lord Kitcheners policy and eventually improved conditions. How you can equate that the the unimaginable scale and horror of the Nazi extermination camps is beyond me. Have you actually been to any? Have you smelled them? Have you seen the bloody scratch marks on the inside of the showers?
Trust me deadly gas was certainly available at that time.
I never said that the scale of deaths in British & Nazi concentration camps was the same. I said the British put up concentration camps before the Nazis did. And then I pointed out that a lot of inmates died in the British camps & only technically left the camps "through the gates".
Don't write a rambling post to refute something nobody posted.
I am actually, are you however able to read a dictionary or a history book? If you were then you would know that, technically, the Americans used "concentration" camps to detain Native Americans. As for a rambling post- do you mean one that actually includes facts?
George Orwell (or anybody else) can you let me know when this documentary was made?
sirdard1 6 months ago
Okay, then lets be clear - this is what you said"read up on concentration camps - the Nazis learnt that from you Brits in the Boer War." and " Poison gas was not an option probably because technology hadn't advanced that much."
I don't know about you but, to me at least, you were comparing the British camps in South Africa with Nazi death camps and suggesting that they would have attempted to kill millions if only they had the gas... Clear enough?
Bazanadu 2 years ago
Long live Anglo-American relations. It is unfortunate though that Russia and Britain had to bear the burden alone for so long.
stperkin 4 years ago 3
god bless the british people
bearcub410 4 years ago 2
God had little to do with it. It was their own hard work, to fight and die alone, until the US could no longer make a profit and had to enter the war themselves.
lordzeno666 4 years ago 6
Yeah, those damn Americans. We British & the French put the screws to the Germans after WW1 because of our glorious European rivalrie... er, traditions, leading to the rise of the Nazis. And these Americans, they don't rush in to join the fight that we, the glorious British & French, had a hand in causing because of our vengeful treatment of Germany after WW1. When did these Americans get the idea that they are not our servants?
drav1dan 2 years ago
Wow, an American distorting the truth & lying. Bet you don't know anything about history before Pearl Harbor do you. Most of us who don't read about actual history don't.
Do some reading son, Lordzeno is actually right. The US came roaring out of the depression thank to WW2 manufacturing after the US created GREAT DEPRESSION.
BTW, the US was fine with Nazi rule, having modelled their laws after the Jim Crow laws your country had.
RickWarrenisjesus 2 years ago 2
The similarities between American racism & Nazi ideology are irrelevant to this topic. The fact is, WW1 was caused by European rivalries over colonies. WW2 was caused by the Nazis, who came to power because the Europeans thoroughly screwed over Germany in the Versailles Treaty.
Britain was able to defend itself against Nazi invasion simply because of American lend-and-lease deals.
But then, these facts are too complex for you to learn.
drav1dan 2 years ago
I wonder why you're so insecure & being so defensive.
If you want to talk blame for WW1, go read about Bismark.
Then go and look at wallstreet, where American capitalism and then protectionism made something bad worse and gave rise to Hitler in Germany.
WW1 as well as WW2 were immensely profitable for the US. You should be proud that global war worked so well for us.
RickWarrenisjesus 2 years ago 3
And btw, you're the one making no sense. All the guy said was god had nothing to do with it. The profit part is entirely correct.
It must be a bit of a shock to you to mix it with people who don't come from an entirely blinkered pro US reality.
RickWarrenisjesus 2 years ago 3
No, it is not a shock to mix it with people like you, who come from an entirely blinkered **pro UK** mentality.
As you like to rave and rant about Nazis & Jim Crow laws etc., read up on concentration camps - the Nazis learnt that from you Brits in the Boer War.
drav1dan 2 years ago
Ooooh ZING!
It's funny you think I'm pro UK, the only thing I'm not being is blatantly pro US, like you.
Concentration camps? Shall we talk US civil war then if you want to go back in history?
You're an idiot looking for a fight where there is non. Accept that WW2 was complex on many levels, the US is not just some great moral authority but had many reasons for what it did during those times.
RickWarrenisjesus 2 years ago 3
You are a retard ranting about things you have no concept of and cannot even begin to understand even if you tried.
"Moral authority"!? I never mentioned moral authority. European countries must accept the blame for the disasters they caused; anyway they survived the disasters only with US aid like lend-lease etc, that was what I said.
Go easy with the ale at the pub. You will be able to understand others' posts when you are sober.
drav1dan 2 years ago
The major difference between the British and Nazi concentration camps was the people left the British ones through the gates and not through the chimneys.
Bazanadu 2 years ago 3
A large number of the inmates in British concentration camps died of starvation and disease. Poison gas was not an option probably because technology hadn't advanced that much.
Technically, you are right, all the inmates left the British concentartion camps through the gates, but a large number of them were just corpses and they were probably carried out through the gates to be buried.
drav1dan 2 years ago
Absolute nonsense, where you get your "facts" from beggers belief. It is true that disease and malnutrition did take a heavy toll by the end conditions had improved to the point where the death rate was lower that many british cities at that time. The real fact that extermination was not the purpose, a degree of neglect by the, Conservative, government was very much the case but no worse than the poor of many Industrialised nations.
Bazanadu 2 years ago 3
The death rate, totalling 26,000 was not helped by the medical practices of the time. The British parliament and population rallied against Lord Kitcheners policy and eventually improved conditions. How you can equate that the the unimaginable scale and horror of the Nazi extermination camps is beyond me. Have you actually been to any? Have you smelled them? Have you seen the bloody scratch marks on the inside of the showers?
Trust me deadly gas was certainly available at that time.
Bazanadu 2 years ago 3
Are you unable to understand simple English?
I never said that the scale of deaths in British & Nazi concentration camps was the same. I said the British put up concentration camps before the Nazis did. And then I pointed out that a lot of inmates died in the British camps & only technically left the camps "through the gates".
Don't write a rambling post to refute something nobody posted.
drav1dan 2 years ago
I am actually, are you however able to read a dictionary or a history book? If you were then you would know that, technically, the Americans used "concentration" camps to detain Native Americans. As for a rambling post- do you mean one that actually includes facts?
Bazanadu 2 years ago 3
By rambling posts, I mean your long winded posts to refute things that nobody said.
drav1dan 2 years ago