Looks like he was pulling the bottle just up out of the water and it was pouring down into the bucket via the outside of the pipe. Looks like a con trick!
@xsports49 and @Javadavida comon' doc my engine only runs on HHO, this could be the ultimate test to finally throw the switch one way or the other! My joule count is 5318j/s (watt/s) for 7.08 grams HHO at 3.5 O to H ratio. You got 283 watts constant over 12 secs per liter. 283 watts over 1 sec will electrolyze 1000/12=83.333 grams HHO. This is enough HHO to power 6 of my rockets same time releasing over 34,000 watts power to run a generator to make that 283 watts plus power whatever else.
Hello. i am a researcher from a vermont state college. i dont know if i believe your claims to overunity, but i would like to help. If your interested repond to this comment and we can work something out
Doc says he had a genset running the cell and the cell providing the HHO to run the genset. Jeff Sokol took the plans and the cell and wrote a book about it.
How are you measuring overunity? It was not explained in the video. Where is the Back EMF coming from? Are you using coils in this design? If so are you using the collapsing field and steering this energy back into the coil? Are you running the cell at resonance?
Stanley Meyer was a complete and total fraud. Approximately 25 years ago when he was still alive he came to our home to "demonstrate" his water fuel cell. It was nothing more than an electric motor driving an alternator and using simple high school physics electrolysis to make a tiny volume of hydrogen that created a tiny flame. Much more energy in than what was coming out. Please do not continue to propagate his garbage.
This has become a cult. All the so called overunity is calculated. Simply use the hydrogen to run a motor, generate electricity then use that power to run the cell. If it creates 200% overunity then it should make more hydrogen than it uses. Simple Huh? It would be a simple experiment to prove this but instead of doing it, they will argue it to death.
Awsome Idea using the fishing line for spacer. How does the good Dr, get those tubes to precise diameter? Does he play with "tuning" the pipes or resonance.
Very few people are doing really new research in HHO and when they make a break-thru, the nay-sayers come out of the wood work. This has been true since the beginning of time.
You don't get at least what I am doing with HHO. Yes its crazy to use 500 watts for any production. In my next video a cell is running using 3.5 volts at 4.2 amps but the current drawn from the 12 volt supply is only 0.45 amps12x .045= 27 watts. total circuit power developed is 12x4.2= 50.4 watts.
The company's cell used in my tests has been sold in quantity to one of the biggest ground shipping firms in the US. What needs to be researched is why HHO does work . Your swimming up stream.
Yes the statement is correct. Part of the key seems to be the capture of BEMF, but something else other is going on. The circuit has been been changed quite a bit from the one in the last video and can't not be posted since it was developed for another company, its not a cop out but a fact. I would start by watching my video "HHO Over unity or what", and the last "Over unity protection" I am not the only one doing this. Thanks for the interest. Let me know it you have any ideas.
u dont get it.. if u do the "classic electrolysis" u will get a net loss.. BUT switch to plused high-voltage DC and u dont use amps.. use the voltage instead to breake the water molecule ( imagine a rubberband, and the voltage is pulling) so the higher the better! And dont tell me that voltage does not preform work, thats just beeing ignorant of basic physics, how do u thing a regular TV is working.. yepp, electron acc by hight voltage! read up on stanly meyer :)
Electrolysis on a single two plate design begins at 1.48 volts but really needs about 2volts to get decent production. Any voltage above that just wastes electricity.
It's pretty obvious that this can't be 5 LPM. This test is complete nonsense if you ask me. Put a small holein the bottom of the bottle and there you go! 5lpm, I don't think so.
Finaly someone caught on to the polarity issues. Straight dc is going to work the best..........Check out my set ups ...You will like.........first video is Feb18,2007 .......I may repost a polarity video from couple years ago.
Now I aint saying nothing bad here but do you guys get lit up @ 420?..... just kiddin!!!
negatively charged water positive to outer sytainless steel case or tube no water on outer of this then negative cathode inner tube. oxygen molecules want to escape to outer so once cathode excited far better hydrogen production .further try aluminium radiator cores in salt water same procedure.and pulse voltage . daniel dingel method
I agree, he has a great soul, but that does not mean the guy he is interviewing did not fake the 5 LPM results. I f you know what 5 LPM looks like, then you would understand that there is NO WAY that is more than 1.5 LPM
you need to keep the water level in the bucket even with the water level in the bottle just to give best lpm reading and to stop a vacuum in the bottle
Hi Daniel2008C, You are correct my information was incorrect and I just haven't responded back to correct that information. However the approximate Faraday calculations will still be pretty close.
Please can you explain what you mean when you stated 'we left it overnight at 2 amps to polarize". Would the unit not work if this step is not done ? thanks!
Your test means nothing without a voltage. I see no voltage reading in the video. If you want to be taken seriously. Do a serious test. Where exactly does the energy come from over 100% to Faraday? you put in 100% energy and you pull out 168% WOW thats AWESOME!
You're right. It will run better in a car, off of an alternator. I showed the power supply, a 12v battery charger. After that, it is all about amperage, controlled by a function of gap and electrolyte in the water...resistance.
Dr. Eaton explains where over unity starts happening, as the specific gravity drops in the upper half of the tubes. That's why his 3555w generator can run on JUST WATER!
Dude just because there is no voltage reading shown in the video doesn't mean that it isn't correct. Hell If someone wanted to they could make it look like they had any voltage going through the system in a video. Take it or leave it at face value. With your attitude the system could be right in front of you with everything to see and you would still deny that it was over unity.
Maybe you can answer the question. where is the energy overunity coming from? To make a claim like this means you have to back it up or frankly it mean nothing. It has nothing to do with attitude and everything to do with miss leading people.
9.277822765 MMW or milliliters per minute per watt = 100% unity according to Faraday's Fomula. 12 volts and 23.6 amps equals 283.2 watts. 5 liters equals 5000 milliliters. 5000/283.2 = 17.65536723164 MMW. 17.65536723164/9.277822765 = 1.9, and 1.9*100 = 190% Faraday unity. If you factor in loss from heat it would then be a little less than that probably about 167% unity.
If you come up with different figures than this, post them for all of us to comment on.
Your not understanding. What part of the ass is the 67% being pulled out of? I understand how to calculate mmw's.
btw your calculations are a little off to say the least. His claim is 227% to Faraday from his own numbers and just so you know 7.74mmw Is real close to 100% to Faraday. I am not sure where 9.2 came from. But anyway it make no difference. this guy has been busted . see my other post and please visit the PESNetwork channel.
Hi Francis. I visited PESWIKI and appreciate your write up on our hasty water displacement test! You're right. Tighter protocol would change..but maybe make mmw higher. The test bottle was filled a couple ounces over the liter line. After spillage, there was still over a liter in the bottle. The reservoir had no foam. It served mostly as a bubbler for running the generator. Bubbler and the long hose lost HHO back to water before it got to the test bottle...just a couple of things to reconsider.
It would be a pretty long post to go through all of the calculations here but, if we were to use 7.14 it would certainly make this unit more than double unity. I will try and post a short calculation later.
So, you're calling us liars. How badly would you like to see proof? Bad enough to build your own cell? I doubt it. Don't be a spectator. Get in the race!
Using Calculator from the 4shared website and after finding out that this setup equates to 3 stacks with 7 neutrals I calculated about 228% Faraday and 168% unity using Gibbs Law. This is a very efficient design and the low water temp is very good.
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eithanyakobi 3 months ago
If that"s your music' man" you"ve got a groove! There's a correlation... Resonance.
tommymorey 4 months ago
look! he stole a oil cooler out of a dt466 engine.
anzak164 6 months ago
Looks like he was pulling the bottle just up out of the water and it was pouring down into the bucket via the outside of the pipe. Looks like a con trick!
Itsmeeman1 8 months ago
At 1:19 "gravity is reduced"
So that explains it.
terrymorse 11 months ago
@terrymorse
In case you were sarcastic, he meant the density of the electrolyte (water + KOH/NaOH) ;)
demios99 11 months ago
@demios99 So "gravity" means electrolyte concentration. Okay, but that just brings up more questions.
1. How did he measure the "gravity" change?
2. Won't the water/electrolyte mix to a homogeneous solution any way?
3. How does a reduced electrolyte concentration accelerate electrolysis?
4. If it does, why not use less electrolyte to begin with?
Something smells funny.
terrymorse 11 months ago
@terrymorse
That I don't know :) I just interpreted his words :D Because I'm sure he didn't mean gravitational force :)
demios99 11 months ago
looks like nuclear control rod to me..
EXternalLife9 1 year ago
1:19 clip your nails man
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@xsports49 and @Javadavida comon' doc my engine only runs on HHO, this could be the ultimate test to finally throw the switch one way or the other! My joule count is 5318j/s (watt/s) for 7.08 grams HHO at 3.5 O to H ratio. You got 283 watts constant over 12 secs per liter. 283 watts over 1 sec will electrolyze 1000/12=83.333 grams HHO. This is enough HHO to power 6 of my rockets same time releasing over 34,000 watts power to run a generator to make that 283 watts plus power whatever else.
jessedenson 1 year ago
watch the bubbles! it looks like it has 6LPM!
youtube.com/watch?v=X7P2XahhBDA
MrFrancispiche 1 year ago
the bubble in the bottle said: 3/4 to 1 LPM max lol
MrFrancispiche 1 year ago
no one can ever just put a gauge on these things. it is always projected with soda bottles.
oddssodds 1 year ago
Hello. i am a researcher from a vermont state college. i dont know if i believe your claims to overunity, but i would like to help. If your interested repond to this comment and we can work something out
xsports49 1 year ago
Doc says he had a genset running the cell and the cell providing the HHO to run the genset. Jeff Sokol took the plans and the cell and wrote a book about it.
Javadavida 1 year ago
@Javadavida - It looks like your doing 1lpm! where do you get 5lpm from? The bottle looks small... is it a litre bottle or a 200ml bottle?
waterboost 1 year ago
this is amazing if the numbers are real.
What you need to to is reun a generater only on hho and then run the cell with the power produced only by the generater.
xsports49 1 year ago
@xsports49 Are you sure you go to college? You can't even spell...
shambles9 1 year ago
@shambles9 hahah luckily i'm not an English major.
xsports49 1 year ago
How are you measuring overunity? It was not explained in the video. Where is the Back EMF coming from? Are you using coils in this design? If so are you using the collapsing field and steering this energy back into the coil? Are you running the cell at resonance?
valveman12 1 year ago
Stanley Meyer was a complete and total fraud. Approximately 25 years ago when he was still alive he came to our home to "demonstrate" his water fuel cell. It was nothing more than an electric motor driving an alternator and using simple high school physics electrolysis to make a tiny volume of hydrogen that created a tiny flame. Much more energy in than what was coming out. Please do not continue to propagate his garbage.
duad66 2 years ago
This has become a cult. All the so called overunity is calculated. Simply use the hydrogen to run a motor, generate electricity then use that power to run the cell. If it creates 200% overunity then it should make more hydrogen than it uses. Simple Huh? It would be a simple experiment to prove this but instead of doing it, they will argue it to death.
Texmurphy51 2 years ago
have you experimented yourself?
steveman223 2 years ago
Looking at the output from the hose, there is no way it is generating 5LPM. It is a fake.
ElectroJoltman 2 years ago
Love it!
FreeMagneticEnergy 2 years ago
Awsome Idea using the fishing line for spacer. How does the good Dr, get those tubes to precise diameter? Does he play with "tuning" the pipes or resonance.
Respect4lifeliberty 2 years ago
Very few people are doing really new research in HHO and when they make a break-thru, the nay-sayers come out of the wood work. This has been true since the beginning of time.
Again thanks for your work.........many thanks.
Richard
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
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EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
You don't get at least what I am doing with HHO. Yes its crazy to use 500 watts for any production. In my next video a cell is running using 3.5 volts at 4.2 amps but the current drawn from the 12 volt supply is only 0.45 amps12x .045= 27 watts. total circuit power developed is 12x4.2= 50.4 watts.
The company's cell used in my tests has been sold in quantity to one of the biggest ground shipping firms in the US. What needs to be researched is why HHO does work . Your swimming up stream.
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
I am confused by this post. Check me. Cell using 3.5 volts X 4.2 amps = 14.7 watts draw.
Drawn from 12 volt supply = .45 amps x 12 V = 5.4 watts. How can a cell recieve 14.7 watts when only 5.4 watts are being drawn to power it?
Please give the title of the video you are refering to.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
Yes the statement is correct. Part of the key seems to be the capture of BEMF, but something else other is going on. The circuit has been been changed quite a bit from the one in the last video and can't not be posted since it was developed for another company, its not a cop out but a fact. I would start by watching my video "HHO Over unity or what", and the last "Over unity protection" I am not the only one doing this. Thanks for the interest. Let me know it you have any ideas.
Richard
hhoforvolts 2 years ago
u dont get it.. if u do the "classic electrolysis" u will get a net loss.. BUT switch to plused high-voltage DC and u dont use amps.. use the voltage instead to breake the water molecule ( imagine a rubberband, and the voltage is pulling) so the higher the better! And dont tell me that voltage does not preform work, thats just beeing ignorant of basic physics, how do u thing a regular TV is working.. yepp, electron acc by hight voltage! read up on stanly meyer :)
InventorGadget 2 years ago
Electrolysis on a single two plate design begins at 1.48 volts but really needs about 2volts to get decent production. Any voltage above that just wastes electricity.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
It's pretty obvious that this can't be 5 LPM. This test is complete nonsense if you ask me. Put a small holein the bottom of the bottle and there you go! 5lpm, I don't think so.
daobradaloosh 2 years ago
True, the protocol is loose in this crude water displacement test. There is no trickery, silly dobrad! Comments like yours are very telling.
Javadavida 2 years ago
Finaly someone caught on to the polarity issues. Straight dc is going to work the best..........Check out my set ups ...You will like.........first video is Feb18,2007 .......I may repost a polarity video from couple years ago.
Now I aint saying nothing bad here but do you guys get lit up @ 420?..... just kiddin!!!
pinemontgo 2 years ago
So that's where the Lite beer can came from...(The one we sliced in the Welding Demo!)
Javadavida 2 years ago
negatively charged water positive to outer sytainless steel case or tube no water on outer of this then negative cathode inner tube. oxygen molecules want to escape to outer so once cathode excited far better hydrogen production .further try aluminium radiator cores in salt water same procedure.and pulse voltage . daniel dingel method
honda4004 2 years ago
Not 5lpm, try again.
CarbideTip 2 years ago
If you watch this video carefully, you will see that he is NOT producing anywhere near 5 LPM. Here is what 4.5 LPM looks like.
watch?v=RvVaRyzNmVQ
The guy in this video I am responding to is lucky if that is even 1 LPM. How he is faking the video I do not know.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
Lay off man.... He is a good guy... If you've ever watched his videos's you'd know Java is a truthful guy with a good soul.
Respect4lifeliberty 2 years ago
I agree, he has a great soul, but that does not mean the guy he is interviewing did not fake the 5 LPM results. I f you know what 5 LPM looks like, then you would understand that there is NO WAY that is more than 1.5 LPM
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
you need to keep the water level in the bucket even with the water level in the bottle just to give best lpm reading and to stop a vacuum in the bottle
HydroGenHybryid 2 years ago
Hi Daniel2008C, You are correct my information was incorrect and I just haven't responded back to correct that information. However the approximate Faraday calculations will still be pretty close.
marathonman6953 2 years ago
Please can you explain what you mean when you stated 'we left it overnight at 2 amps to polarize". Would the unit not work if this step is not done ? thanks!
shizzleinthenizzle 2 years ago
Very cool, now try it with titanium next.
I don't like to pollute the water with the chromium.
btester1 2 years ago
Dude, you rock!
Shoot me a heads up when you get back to the front range
longbeforedawn 2 years ago 2
Your test means nothing without a voltage. I see no voltage reading in the video. If you want to be taken seriously. Do a serious test. Where exactly does the energy come from over 100% to Faraday? you put in 100% energy and you pull out 168% WOW thats AWESOME!
No not really. This is bullshit guys.
Don't post it unless you can back it up.
delvis11 2 years ago
You're right. It will run better in a car, off of an alternator. I showed the power supply, a 12v battery charger. After that, it is all about amperage, controlled by a function of gap and electrolyte in the water...resistance.
Dr. Eaton explains where over unity starts happening, as the specific gravity drops in the upper half of the tubes. That's why his 3555w generator can run on JUST WATER!
Javadavida 2 years ago
Dude just because there is no voltage reading shown in the video doesn't mean that it isn't correct. Hell If someone wanted to they could make it look like they had any voltage going through the system in a video. Take it or leave it at face value. With your attitude the system could be right in front of you with everything to see and you would still deny that it was over unity.
marathonman6953 2 years ago
Take it at "face value"
Ok i can do that. i'm calling a spade a spade.
Maybe you can answer the question. where is the energy overunity coming from? To make a claim like this means you have to back it up or frankly it mean nothing. It has nothing to do with attitude and everything to do with miss leading people.
delvis11 2 years ago
9.277822765 MMW or milliliters per minute per watt = 100% unity according to Faraday's Fomula. 12 volts and 23.6 amps equals 283.2 watts. 5 liters equals 5000 milliliters. 5000/283.2 = 17.65536723164 MMW. 17.65536723164/9.277822765 = 1.9, and 1.9*100 = 190% Faraday unity. If you factor in loss from heat it would then be a little less than that probably about 167% unity.
If you come up with different figures than this, post them for all of us to comment on.
marathonman6953 2 years ago
Your not understanding. What part of the ass is the 67% being pulled out of? I understand how to calculate mmw's.
btw your calculations are a little off to say the least. His claim is 227% to Faraday from his own numbers and just so you know 7.74mmw Is real close to 100% to Faraday. I am not sure where 9.2 came from. But anyway it make no difference. this guy has been busted . see my other post and please visit the PESNetwork channel.
delvis11 2 years ago
for the truth on this video
delvis11 2 years ago
Hi Francis. I visited PESWIKI and appreciate your write up on our hasty water displacement test! You're right. Tighter protocol would change..but maybe make mmw higher. The test bottle was filled a couple ounces over the liter line. After spillage, there was still over a liter in the bottle. The reservoir had no foam. It served mostly as a bubbler for running the generator. Bubbler and the long hose lost HHO back to water before it got to the test bottle...just a couple of things to reconsider.
Javadavida 2 years ago
Where did you come up with 9.27 MMW = 100% Faraday. Almost everybody I have seen says its 7.14 MMW.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
It would be a pretty long post to go through all of the calculations here but, if we were to use 7.14 it would certainly make this unit more than double unity. I will try and post a short calculation later.
marathonman6953 2 years ago
from all my tests i sure had more bubbles at 5 liters a min, i would like to see more proof, check for a small hole under your index finger.
ttward2 2 years ago
So, you're calling us liars. How badly would you like to see proof? Bad enough to build your own cell? I doubt it. Don't be a spectator. Get in the race!
Javadavida 2 years ago
I added a link to Jeff Sokol's photos, assembly instructions and wiring diagram in "more info".
Javadavida 2 years ago
Using Calculator from the 4shared website and after finding out that this setup equates to 3 stacks with 7 neutrals I calculated about 228% Faraday and 168% unity using Gibbs Law. This is a very efficient design and the low water temp is very good.
marathonman6953 2 years ago
Thanks, Marathon! I'll ask Dr. Eaton how the cell is wired if that might make the calculation more accurate.
Javadavida 2 years ago
Hi , Marathon .. why 7 neutrals ? I see all tubes are welded toghether on one side , so looks like a paralell connection to me ..or am I wrong ?
daniel2008C 2 years ago