some people just amaze me...get your facts rights before you come bluffing your stupid accusations at muslims! You so brain washed that i feel pity for you..Know the difference s between facts and fiction. As much you think of muslims as murderous, we are glad to inform you that we are still the fastest growing religion in the world! Beat that!
Ah, he trots out the whole "Muslim women are more respected" line. Yes, because telling someone what to do, regardless of her desire, or indeed causing her to believe without doubt that she -should- desire this action, is respectful to women.
Just like those Christians who still buy into all of Paul's misogyny. It's the 21st century, people.
This is the best answer that he could come up with?? The Prophet rode on a camel too, does that mean neglect that big as bmw you have in your drive way??
If you could tell me your contry then I can provide the figures. And instead of running a crisis centre for muslims u should run it for ur community. And more over these women who have boyfriends and sex before marraige and out side the wed lock and then have children all this is sin in Islam so I dont consider them as muslims. And neither those men who are equally to be blamed. Men & women brought up in islam know how big these sins are. Bcoz we fear allah the judgement day
@tafreenkhan You really are a twisted, deluded, racist and i don't wish to converse with such a fanatic as yourself. people like you are the cause of wars, you need to chill out. If you kick out all the men that are having affairs behind the backs of muslim women there wouldn't be any left. you must be getting you statistics from your imam because there false. I wont be answering any more of your drivel i run the centre because muslim women need it and your women are to affraid to run themselves
@dorothyplatt1 only women who dont have a strong character need a person like you to support them. or else who would want a support of a person who passes derogatory remarks about their religion and still cling on to people like you. I am racist who told you I am not. Not that we are afraid of supporting such men or women but we are ashamed of having such people in our society anyways u continue ur good work.
@dorothyplatt1 Waging unwanted unauthorised inhuman wars is ur trait first u spread abnoxious culture and then u pretend to help very funy. You all are in delusions where is it written that you lead a shameless life its not written in any of your holy scriptures. You people lead a deviated life from what your scripture teaches and u blame other voww how funny. I am not in delusion click in google and c 6 lakhs are killed in iraq, 3 lakhs are killed in afgan, chechenya bosnia. U people r barbaric
If you could tell me your contry then I can provide the figures. And instead of running a crisis centre for muslims u should run it for ur community. And more over these women who have boyfriends and sex before marraige and out side the wed lock and then have children all this is sin in Islam so I dont consider them as muslims. And neither those men who are equally to be blamed. Men & women brought up in islam know how big these sins are. Bcoz we fear allah the judgement day.
why arabs are behind pilipino and indonesian housemaids.they are behind russian and turkish prostitutes.there are gays.but all are suppresed. they are relaxed in hotels and bars in dubai and bahrain.
amritthechocolatebar@ Video haha which video how will you know the truth in video. I have read my scritpture and it there in quran. I am not sure which video you saw pls dont c videos to confirm things. Y do any scholar give a reference of the chapter and the verse so that any one can go check refer and then understand. How can it be bogus when this is there from 1400 yrs. It doesnt matter if you dont blv, the scripture doesnt change neither does the power of almighty. Pls forward me the link
Video haha which video how will you know the truth in video. I have read my scritpture and it there in quran. I am not sure which video you saw pls dont c videos to confirm things. Y do any scholar give a reference of the chapter and the verse so that any one can go check refer and then understand. How can it be bogus when this is there from 1400 yrs. It doesnt matter if you dont blv the scripture doesnt change neither does the power of almighty. But its really funny thing about video really :)
@amritthechocolatebar Dont u think dis creator needs to be worshipd praisd and wat wud we be with out him, nothing. I blv in this supreme power and everything he told in Quran becoz it is truth, it proven by science. Dr. Kiethmore a doc saw the stages of embryo des in Quran and then nothin cud stop him from saying La ILaha ILLaLLa there is no other god other than Allah.
The quran so much in detail speaks about the stages of embryo which no one would have known other than creator. Scanning was developed 30 yrs back but who would have know this before 1400 yrs.Not only this quran also speaks about science in more than 1000 aayah (Verses) who could have known these 1400 yrs ago, the creator. We love him and only worship him because he gave me life and food and everything good thing in this world alhamdulillah, We thank him all the time.
Islam itself means submitting your will to allah and one who submits is called a muslim. As it is a way of life Allah has sent us scriptures to how to live and we follow those and those who dont follow those we belive that they have to be accountable for their choice and on judgement day he should be able to substantiate his or her choice. The holy book Quran has stand firm against the test of time place generations etc etc. Please read the foll. comm., I am not forcing.
Not only to you it will never work to any one if it is forced, thats what I am saying Hidayah (Guidance) only comes from allah, never from another human being. A human being can only tell the right thing but guidance can only come from supreme power. I guess more than loving your religion you should love ur creator. Islam is a way of life a life where you live your life according to allahs will. What allah has ordained us to do and to restrain from what he has forbid.
if forcing and converting in islam was poosible, we would have done that to you first. But thats just not possible in Islam unless u blv in allah and his oneness how can you bcome a muslim. There are many muslims who are just for the sake of name, if we could have forced them we would have forced them to follow. But allah has given a free will to human beings with which they are able to discern good and evil. No one can force any one, guidance comes only 4m allah.
@tafreenkhan Yeah right. I go to a Catholic school verses a public school because of the quality of education. Also a large amount of people at my Catholic school are MuslimTrust me, forcing me to convert would NEVER work- I love my religion very much!
Khalid never heard of the verses of the sucklings and the hadiths commanding men wives to provide sucklings for men other than there husbands. Its weird, its Islam
I have never heard such a croc of shite, muslim women are more precious than gold, etc. thats why they are raped and abused by men in their own families niqab and all, you physically and psychologically beat your women to do your bidding. covering up does nothing to deter rape, affairs or anything else and if you think it does your deluded but we already know you are ........your muslim
@dorothyplatt1 what do you know about islam i am a muslim women and i know what we are and how much valuable we are. Please find out the statistics in your own country about the rapes and abortions (illegal) and multiple sex partners and childhood pregnancies. For you guys extramarital affairs is not a problem, fornication is not a problem rape is not a problem, child molestation is not a probelm. 9 year girls having sexual relations is not problem. But niqb is problem yyyy becoz it protects us?
@tafreenkhan i run a crisis centre for muslim women that have suffered abuse at the hands of their muslim boyfriends and husbands, raped and beaten so dont try and tell me all mulims are good, at the end of the day they are human with all the human faults plus, just for the record there are just as many rapes, beatings, single mothers and affairs as there are in the non muslim communities. sexual child abuse is rife in your community and a niqab does not protect you. Do your research.
@dorothyplatt1 If you could tell me your contry then I can provide the figures. And instead of running a crisis centre for muslims u should run it for ur community. And more over these women who have boyfriends and sex before marraige and out side the wed lock and then have children all this is sin in Islam so I dont consider them as muslims. And neither those men who are equally to be blamed. Men & women brought up in islam know how big these sins are. Bcoz we fear allah the judgement day.
@dorothyplatt1 And who said there are no black sheep in our community. But in islam when ur doing something shameless ur no more a believer u become a disbeliever be it be man or women. We have equal rights in islam. And in islam men are first instructed to lower their gaze before we are instructed to wear niqab. Please read the scripture ur self and then reach conclusion the crisis centre which ur running for or not muslims and the men who are torturing them are also not muslims.
@dorothyplatt1 While departing from this world Allahs Prophet (PBUH) has repeatedly instructed the men of our community to always take care of their wives and to behave in a decent and dignified manner. If they dont do so they will have to answer on the judgement day. So will the women if they do anything unlawful. The problem is that u only want to pick the balck sheep and say all are black.
I am a woman and i dont want the respect of a sexist arsehole, most muslim men i know dont respect their females at all,they treat them like possessions, diamonds, pearls, pin numbers just like the bearded freak says. i am an equal and if this stupid puerile man thinks that a woman covering up stops her from being abused go check your statistics, it doesn't matter what we wear because men are the weaker of the race, ruled by his bollocks as well as talking bollocks
haha makes no sense! 1) Here, diamonds are for show, if you got em flaunt em, so his logic doesn't hold. 2) why do they have to cover before they get married then? so pathetic to think that women are like possessions, so demeaning to compare them to pin numbers and diamonds! Women should not be conditioned by what they wear, it should be the other way around! Arab man don't wistle cause there's nothing there to see! IT S ALL COVERED UP!!!
@jelaylayful In reality what is demeaning is, when you treat them like cheap objects readily available for the benefit of men. When they go out looking like cheap thing that anyone can enjoy and look and use, thats demeaning. We treat them like diamonds and pin numbers. you treat them as rocks outside your house, Your neighbor will come and see wow, what a beautiful rock, and take it to his home and take a snap and keep in his wall.
@PlrinPuruPuru No idea who raised you but what you are describing is not true. We do not objectify women. DOT. I was raised with free choice and women here are allowed to dress the way they want without men not being able to control their instincts. If my neighbor sees a hot girl in the street the very rude people will whistle, the moderates will tell the lady "You are truly beautiful", and the polite will try to not show any emotion and hope she looked their way. Welcome to the West!
@jelaylayful The people of immorality make you believe it is freedom and it is cool, but what you really doing is playing into their hands. Mr. playboy guys plays with women's psychology and use them as sexual objects. Just like that all women are used by the people of immorality and the women with their tiny intelligence think it is freedom and cool. LOL They dont have basic moral principles and self respect and strength to save themselves from being used. This is demeaning.
@PlrinPuruPuru You are immoral and demeaning to think that women are not able to make choices for themselves. I don't know who you are talking about as I am in a committed long term relationship and my friend, don t fear women, they are great! You are so out of your league you have no clue what you are saying! Probably never had a real dialogue with people outside your country without the extremist mentality you obviously uphold!
@jelaylayful Your assumptions about me is way off. Yes, who says we force women to hijab? You have a choice to leave Islam, all you to do is leave. If you want your daughter to make choices like take drugs, be half naked, have unlawful sex, its okay no body will force her and we now know you dont even care, you care about giving more choices right. What is immoral is making the choice of being naked whether I force it or not to be not naked. CONT
@jelaylayful Muslim women are not to be immoral like the people of immorality (namely USA). The people immorality call for the freedom of having sex in public, be nude, and be all immoral you can be, but thats not us Muslims, so dont try to come here and FORCE us to be immoral and tell us to be immoral, you be immoral all you want, CONT>
@jelaylayful we Muslims dont care.But dont expect to immoral in places we govern, we unlike the people of immorality, does not tolerate immoral behavior from anyone, Muslim or not, black or white. You can have immoral relationships and have unlawful sex, and get illegitimate children but dont preach your immoral ways claiming to be an angel calling for good moral behavior.
@jelaylayful What choice women have? They are forced to take off the hijab in some countries. Little girls are dressed up as prostitutes from the very young age, and they are forced use sex appeal to get things as there are less male and males tend to marry only one and they tend to go for the most nude one. They are to watch shows which says immorality is the best and is cool in everything they watch. So what freedom? No, slavery it is. Slavery through psychological attacks.
@PlrinPuruPuru you are so intolerant of other cultures it is completely useless to even talk with a person like you. If you ever come to Europe give me a shout and I ll show you around and you ll see how wrong you are in your preconceptions of the people here and definitions of immorality.
@jelaylayful Yes, your definition for what is moral maybe wearing a bikini. Just think of it this way, I am a more moral person that you and your cultures. Islam is more moral than you and your cultures. Yes I know full well to some people being nude is also moral. But you think if women are told not to be nude, that is taking away their freedom. No, it is building up GREAT MORAL character. Your morality is like a fly compared to Islam's morality. This is why I call you the people of immorality.
@jelaylayful You think freedom comes with immorality and nudity. You think freedom is more important than building better moral characters and models for societies to live in. This is our difference which u r intolerant about. You r intolerant towards Islam's morality and cultures, which is why you accuse Islam of taking freedom away. Are you free to walk into a elementary school nude? Why? Immoral n sick. The same way to a people of high moral standards it is immoral and sick to not wear hijab.
@PlrinPuruPuru the difference is we know where to draw the line. You hold double standards for women and men, we don't! to us morality is about how you act, not how you dress (which is ironic considering you are supposed to be doing this for spiritual reasons and I am the atheist...) I have nothing against Islam, don't put words into my mouth you prejudiced small minded superficial person!
@jelaylayful This has nothing to do with me being a Muslim but everything to do with me being a Moral person, even if you are an atheist, Muslim, Christian, the morality should be upheld in its maximum. Societies need to learn what is moral and immoral objectively not by your own moral standards. You think women and men are equal physically? This is ignorance. Women and men are not the same naturally, and trying to change that is futile. You are impractical and an ideologist.
@PlrinPuruPuru 1) "Societies need to learn what is moral and immoral objectively not by your own moral standards." Morality obviously has a degree of subjectiveness as we can see by this conversation. You believe women should be covered because apparently men and women are not equally physically strong... You obviously have never been to a Dojo, women will kick your ass and hand it to you on a plate.
@jelaylayful If a man and woman is fighting hardcore in the streets which one you would help? Have you heard of husband beater? Have you heard men getting raped (well, nowadays we have some feminine men and gays which are not normal)? Your idea of women and men being equal is denied naturally and practically only your idealistic views is different. The standard of women's morality should be naturally higher as a way to protect themselves and their family, stop corruption, etc.
@PlrinPuruPuru 1) husband beater: heard of that many times here. 2) Men do get raped and gays ARE normal. Have you ever met and talked to a homo without prejudice? Morality has nothing to do with religion! Look at all the evils and oppression religion has done in it s name. How is it moral to keep one sex covered up based on superficial differences? How is it moral to deny them the same rights? Oppression is not moral. Give women credit, they know what moral really means.
@jelaylayful You go watch your movies with extraordinary women who can do anything and anything at all and be greater than men in everything, but know this, this is only movies. In reality women are being played, abused, used, slavery of mind, etc... when a women gets pregnant, are they equal? which one has the higher risk of loosing out more? This is why it is naturally more important to protect the one who would loose more. Well, nowadays the child will be just adopted, so no worries right?
@PlrinPuruPuru tell this to Merkel, sure she s being played... The woman has no risk to loose anything! the man on the other hand does, she can run away and make the child hate the father and be out of his life.,... dude you should really get out more!
@jelaylayful So the real difference is you are an ideologist and I am being practical. Your one standard for two different things is laughable and impractical. It does not work for the better. You are too thick to see that or you just like to abuse women's beauty and their lack of self-respect and intelligence. The west have been abusing women by various psychological and physical attacks. When you get naked, you are beautiful and everything is easy and readily available - thats the psychology.
@jelaylayful Oh! I forgot better than adoption is abortion right? So all the time being equal and having your way, when you finally realize you are left with a baby inside your belly and the guy is going around enjoy himself just like they were enjoying themselves. This is the reality, not the ideas planted by people who encourage and wish immorality would spread. What you should realize is women are different and the rules are different for women and it is for their OWN benefit,
@PlrinPuruPuru you are so prejudiced and limited in view. Seriously? women are not only to have babies you freak! that is so primitive it is pathetic... Again, I hold no grudge against you, your constant regurgitation of pure propaganda is ridiculous and obviously comes from an ignorant mind. Travel, see the world, immerse yourself in a different culture, find the meaning of empathy, and if you ever come by this side of the world, I welcome you to contact me and have a nice chat so you can be :)
@jelaylayful hahahahaha, Your view is limited. I should have expected this from a guy who has no moral values. Did I say women are for only to have babies or I point out there is no equality when it comes to natural way of things like having a baby? Hahah, give women credit? Do you see the women these days, so cheap, like prostitutes, especially in your western cultures.
@jelaylayful If they know what is moral then, then are you suggesting they are just being evil by choosing to be immoral? I dont think men uses their sex appeal as much as women do, and probably will never be able to do so with their inherent differences. Look at yourself, do you have any thinking capability? Superficial differences? LOL. I didn't know it is a right of a person to whether he should be moral or not,CONT>
@jelaylayful isnt it the right of the society as to benefit it as a whole to decide what is moral? It is not oppression, it is freedom.
Oppression is playing with their psychology by telling them being free is being able to do immoral things, you oppress them into slaves of your ideas. A smart women, if there are any, would recognize this. A smart, respectable and a moral women is someone who covers her self to protect herself from immorality, CONT>
@PlrinPuruPuru Enough. you are pure close minded and lost in your own ways. You are so prejudiced against women and so lost it is not even fun to talk to you anymore. it is so digusting the view you have of women. If you only dared going to a person in Europe and telling them "I know what is good for you because I am of this religion and of this sex, what I say is true full stop" you would get such a reality check. I feel so sorry for you that you cannot appreciate differences. goodbye.
@jelaylayful haha, who said I am preaching this to you? No, we only want Muslim women to be like this, you and your women can have sex in public, be nude, and call it your differences or cultures whatever. It is you the west who needs to appreciate the differences of Muslims and you, and stop calling this as oppression. Your narrow mind views are just as much hated as you hate my views. So, goodbye.
@jelaylayful lustful gazes of men, and does not think sex appeal should be used as a tool. This is the kind of women we want to promote not your kind. If women want to take the fool's way (your way), they are welcome to do it elsewhere where there are no Muslims, as we want smart, respectable and moral women.
And if you think women are being oppressed in Islam, don't you think that Muslim women are people who should show concern? CONT>
@jelaylayful Ask a respectable, smart Muslim women about hijab, and see whether it is oppression or freedom from your lustful gazes and toying with them. Men dont go wearing a boxer or other sorts of small and beautiful dresses, because men naturally are smart and have better self-respect, at least from what we see, we understand it this way. So, who really is ignorant of what is truly right is you dude.
@jelaylayful You need to travel the world and learn what is a moral, respectable and smart woman and whether you want your women whom you need to protect as a man to be that or cheap objects you threw on the street telling them to do whatever they want. Its like throwing your daughter to street and say do whatever you wish to do, CONT>
@jelaylayful I think it is your right to do whatever you want. no, rather it is your right to protect her from harmful ways even if it is from herself. This is a real man, not a man like yourself. So, no thanks, I rather be a real man who protects women and children rather than loner man who cannot take care of them and protect them from their own harmful ways.
@amritthechocolatebar lol, women are quite capable of doing that themselves? Is this observed reality or what you tell your girlfriend to make her happy or what you tell yourself to keep you happy? Islam is realistic unlike your views. If they are able to protect themselves as you say, why are they getting abused? They are treated like cheap whores, and they complain about this, but doesn't know it is them who has not protected themselves from such treatment, yet u saying they can by themselves?
@PlrinPuruPuru I'm a female you cunt. And Islam is NOT realistic at all... Women are NOT dogs, who need a man to protect them. Sure you might believe they do, because of the brainwashing you've undergone. Women in Islam are seen as sex toys..Yes women in ISLAM do get abused by their husbands, sexually and mentally.. This isn't the case everywhere though. You need to come out of your little Sharia law abiding hole, and see how the world really is, because you seriously have no clue....
@amritthechocolatebar lol, from your first sentence, everyone has seen the morality level of you. No need to argue further with an immoral person such as yourself. I think any sensible man can derive a sex toy when they see one. And when I see a naked person giving pleasures to the eyes of men, thats what I call a sex toy. Every man enjoys it and every man 'tap their a**' easily like a sex toy. So cheap and easy are women such as yourself who are immoral. LOL Sex toy is what u are naturally ryt?
@amritthechocolatebar Every man sees you as something to have sex with when you walk around half naked, except the gays. Nobody would see you as human being who deserves something other than our manhood. And this is quite clear, ask for the true opinion of men. LOL . Ask any man whether they dont look at women for pleasure and think of having sex with her when they see women half naked walking around. So ignorant and unrealistic.
@amritthechocolatebar The immorality which you create in men's mind alone is a good reason as to why you should cover up yourself. Unless you want the whole of men in society to be immoral, then you have no choice. But I guess you are too selfish to care about men isnt that right? I know you are not moral enough to cover yourself to stop a clear cause of immorality. Welcome to reality. You are either immoral or self-fish if you dont cover yourself up, and neither of those reasons are of good.
@PlrinPuruPuru You make absolutley no sense. Being moral doesn't make you smart.. What you're telling me is that, your religion clearly doesn't practice self control.. Your religion basically say's it's okay for men to do whatever they'd like to, but when it comes to women it's whole other story.. I don't need to follow the beliefs of somebody else's religion, when my religion isperfect. Just because I don't cover up, it doesn't make me immoral. I follow me religion and that's all that matters.
@amritthechocolatebar When Muslim women cover themselves up they are forcing men to look beyond their bodies and looks and appreciate them for who they are. The women of the western societies who expose themselves are oppressed. You have pre-teens on diets, starving themselves, trying to 'fit in'. You have teen girls suffering from depression & committing suicide cause they don't look a certain way. You have girls wearing globs of make up & throwing up getting diseases just so they look 'good'.
@UrSoNotRandom young girls wear the tightest of clothes & promote nudity while boys whistle and appreciate these girls for their bodies. Middle aged women try to stop growing older by covering up wrinkles, getting their hair done getting all types of surgery. These women aren't respected for who they are. They're liked for their bodies and these men wouldn't even care for them if it weren't for the shape of their bodies. Hijab uplifts a woman. It doesn't degrade her.
@UrSoNotRandom That most defenitley is not the reason for why they cover up.... Women in Islam are clearly oppressed. Yeah maybe some people have problems fitting in, so they take drastic measure, but over all, it's quite clear that women in Islam face harsher rules, and extreme oprression. I mean you have rules that women can't pray when they're on their period, and they have to shave their pubic hair when their on their period.... These rules clearly illustrate unjustice in Islam
@amritthechocolatebar Oppression which leads to sucide and depression are evident in your society, People who are beautiful are appreciated and people who are well ugly are mocked or are forced to change how they look, this is the society you have created for yourself. Everything is about your looks, not about the person. So, how is this not oppression? This is the most extreme oppression I have ever known.
@amritthechocolatebar You seem to be misinformed so I'd like to correct you. For one both men and women cannot go 40 days without shaving pubic hair as it is unhygienic and simply gross. This rule is not specifically for women. Secondly women cannot offer salah when they're on their period. Salah is a form or worship. Women CAN pray and ask God for anything. In fact they're encouraged to do worship God even if they're on their period. Lastly, that is why Muslim women were told by God to cover up
@UrSoNotRandom I'm quite sure what you"ve told me is incorrect. First of all, every Muslim I've met has told me that Muslim WOMEN shave their pubic hair, I've never once heard that about men- that's why I highly doubt it. Secondly I've also researched, and read the same thing. As for the praying while on your period, I meant going to the Mosque. Even if you're correct then the exclusion from "salah" is still a form of discrimination,
@amritthechocolatebar lol at your comment. Yes being ignorant and self-fish can work, but know this you cannot defy the rules of nature. You may want to live forever without getting old, but you cannot. You may want to go naked and expect every men to exercise control, you cannot. Only a few can exercise it, so dont be be narrow minded and self-fish. I am saying there is no other way except women do it, or bare the consequence of immorality spreading and society destroy itself.
@amritthechocolatebar Immorality spreads and destroys other moral behaviors. You are welcome to do whatever you like, but know that what you do has great consequences, evident in the societies. This has nothing to do with religion, it is about morality and consequence.
@PlrinPuruPuru LOL if that was the most extreme form oppression, then it would have been pointed out. But instead, the world views Islam as oppressive, and it's true....
@amritthechocolatebar Its funny how the people who dont wear the hijab are the people concerned over the ones who do. LOL The ones who wear hijab thinks you are the one who is oppressed and abused and stupid. I wonder what you call the world is west. hahaha. Muslims are different than you. Get that to your head. Muslims are to be best moral characters, get that to your head. They are more respectable than you sluts and prostitutes.
@amritthechocolatebar Only smart, respectable and moral women can protect themselves and this is done by obeying the commands of their Creator. So, to make our women respectable and moral is the duty of who else? Men and women are made for each other. Women make us respectable and moral and we should make them respectable and moral, yet you want to live like animals, without helping each other to the best of moral character?
@PlrinPuruPuru Yeah right. I know so many Muslim women who DON'T wear a hijab, and if they do it's because they're forced to. I'm pretty sure I don't know anybody that started wearing the hijab out of free will.... S o Islam say's it's okay to insult people the way you are? If that's the case, then good luck in your "great" religion. I'm SOOO grateful I'm a Sikh:)
@amritthechocolatebar lol, you dont know, I know thousands, in fact almost all of the women in my community wear it out of free will. I think its time you talk to real Muslims who follow Islam closely rather than people who says they believe but not even pray. These are not Muslims, they are just on the way to being Muslims who never really got there. Obviously you dont know many Muslim women to claim they dont do it out of freewill .LOL
@PlrinPuruPuru That's bullshit... I go to a Catholic school which is FULL of Muslims, and some wear the hijab. When they come to school they take it off, or they just don't bother wearing it all.... Matter of fact the city I live in is FULL if Pakistani Muslims, and various other Muslims. Many smoke weed, drink alchol, have sex before marriage, etc.) Muslim women that I know actually talk about how they like short shorts and other "western" clothing. So what you're saying is wrong..
@amritthechocolatebar Okay then, next time ask them why they are Muslims and if they know anything about Islam and why if they know they still claim to Muslims when they are not really Muslims. Please get those answers to me. I am curious as to why someone would call themselves Muslim when they are not following Islam. Is Muslim a family name they could describe themselves as.
@amritthechocolatebar Seem to know and knowing is different. My younger brother seems to know everything, but he doesn't know anything correctly. Ask them are they hypocrites, this is a legit question since their actions are despised in Islam. Ask them why choose Islam if you are not going to obey Allah swt. Ask them whether they are just following Islam because their parents are Muslims. Because you cannot be a Muslim if you do not obey your God in these serious matters.
@PlrinPuruPuru They all share the same information with me, I'm quite sure they know what they're talking about, because they're from strict Muslim backgrounds, and some of their mothers wear hijabs as proof of their strict upbringing..
@amritthechocolatebar Wearing hijab is not based on strict upbringing, many in my community wear fashion hijabs because others wear it, their parents wear it, not because they know why they are wearing it. Its more of a culture. These cultural Muslims are not following the teachings of Islam but their culture. If you are telling me they know about Islam yet they are not Muslims but Muslims by name, shame on them. Tell them shame be on the hypocrites or are u of the ignorant or the oblivious.
@amritthechocolatebar I'm a 15 year old Muslim girl living in Toronto Canada and I didn't have a strict upbringing nor was I forced to wear the hijab. I've been wearing it for 5 years and I wouldn't go anywhere without it. I also went to an Islamic school and there I've met dozens of girls who wore the hijab out of choice.
@UrSoNotRandom Yeah exactly, you went to an Islamic school.... based on what you just said I still believe you were brought up in a strict household.... And don't try telling me, "oh I went based on my own decision." That's hardly ever the case..
@amritthechocolatebar The only thing needed to be cared about is worshiping Allah. Please accept the truth because once you are misguided you are capable of entering the hell-fire. Please, save yourself before it's too late.
@amritthechocolatebar It's npt my belief, but our belief. Every child was born muslim, knowing we have one creator, Allah, that took care of our lives. Yet, as some grew, converted and went astray with misguidance. I only want to you to be saved from the hell-fire. Whether disbelieving or not, believe the hell-fire, it's the promise that is true.
@thelightfollowed yeah it is your belief... That doesn't even make sense, since Islam came after Judaism and Christianity. You have no right to tell me it's my belief as well. I'm not Muslim so I DO have different beliefs.
No, Judaism and Christianity once used to be Islam, but they led their own selves astray with their own leaders, kings, government and scholars. But however I'm not going to force you to believe the truth. However, I have to warn you during this Dunia and test and repent during this test before entering the after-life with regret.
@thelightfollowed Buddy Hinduism is the oldest RECORDED religion in the world... I'm a Sikh, I don't believe in your afterlife, I belief in reincarnation....
@amritthechocolatebar Whether you believe it or not, the promise of hell-fire and heaven is true. The best thing to do is to not deny it, and accept it with your heart.
@ExtraHoney Sikhism is nothing like Islam at all... We don't wear a hijab, it's called a TURBAN! Men and women wear it. It's also not meant for the same reasons that Muslims wear a hijab....I agree that there are similarities between all religions, but in the grand scheme of things we are quite different.
Sorry but I didn't see no Sikh woman wearing a TURBAN, I always see men wearing it, and besides why do you have to grow your hair and cover it, why are you not allowed to cut your hair, I wonder what is the logic behind it, I respect all other religions, that is the teaching of my religion , Islam is the most logical complete religion that any human can follow, and is the only religion accepted by GOD, Ask Allah to guide you.
@ExtraHoney Actually buddy A LOT of women wear turbans, or just a patka on their heads. The reason we have turbans is to keep our long hair in order. We keep our hair, because it's our gift from God. As for covering we, we believe that God is in every direction, everywhere.Here you are trying to talk badly about my religion, yet you're telling me your religion preaches respect? I don't find any sort of practicality in Islam, and thats my opinion. Allaah means God does it not? WellasasSikhIblvGOD
If Men and women cover their hair in Sikhism, why do you have a problem with Muslim woman covering??? I didn't disrespect your religion in fact you are disrespecting Islam. Islam is 1400 years old, while Sikhism is only 500 years old. Islam gave human SOLUTIONS, what solutions Sikhism gave NOTHING, If hair is gift from god so is nails grow them as well. Your religion is written by men, some of who went to Mecca, your religion is a mix of Islam and Hinduism. Wake up.
@ExtraHoney Because in Islam, only women cover their heads for "modesty." Also Islam has helped nobody okay? You forced people to convert to Islam, we don't do that- yet people still convert, and our religion i growing. Our religion is considered one of the best religions, because its accepting and provides equality. In no way is it a mix of Hindiusm and Islam at ALL. As for growing your nails. Well after a while of growing your nails, they start to grow nerves- this causes pain
Yes Muslim, Christian and Jewish woman they are all supposed to cover their hair for modesty, so don't attack Islam , educate yourself about the religion or are you just following who the media attacks??
Islam came with a solution to problems, bigger problems than letting hair, and nail grow or cutting it.
Guru Nanak the founder of Sikhism copied the Quran, voluminous Guru Granth ( Holy book of Sikhs ) Quran is mentioned by name more than once.
@ExtraHoney WOAH you are a moron. I go to a Catholic school. We have learnt about Catholocism and skimmed Judaism. No where has modesty been mentioned. Also the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is most defenitley not a copy od the Quran. We don't have to be oppressed and beaten by our husbands. Men and women are EQUAL- a concept that may be foreign to you. Our holy book is from God. Also what problems has Islam solved? Anything written in a book can be interpreted any way you like-doesn't meananything
Everything you said reflects what your religion taught you, Islam is above all religions, and nothing but perfect is the word of God that we have the Quran.
Men and woman are equal only in deeds, but men and woman can never be equal in biological,physical and emotional functions. Only insane people will tell you men and woman are equal in everything.
Stick to your holy book ' Catholic and Sikh mix' and stop attacking other people with your ignorance and foul language.
@ExtraHoney Yeah my religion is totally awesome! It makes sense because we are the most reasonable and equal! You saying that men and women are not equal. show's me what your religion has taught you..And trust me I will stick to my holy book- because I believe it's fantastic. Sikhism never preaches hate. We accept, while all you try to do is "tolerate."
1. If you think men and women are equal in EVERYTHING then you must be in denial, your mother could give birth to you while your father couldn't do that, because biologically they are DIFFERENT not equal.
2. Millions of Christians and Jews live in Islamic countries for centuries FYI , their rights are given to them, that is more than tolerance, that is fairness and that is Islam.
3. If men and women are equal in Sikhism WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ONE SINGLE FEMALE GURU?
@ExtraHoney I'm obviously not talking about giving birth. I'm talking about capability and worth. Also thats balogna. I know some Iraqi Christians- who have come to Canada, because they aren't treated fairly. Also the Muslims running those countries love staring wars, and having the citizens pay for it. As for why there were no femal gurus: during that time period India had many Muslims (and Muslim emperors) living there. They had basically convinced people that women were below men...
So Sikhism didn't solve anything if they still went on with the thought that women are below men.. I leave the rest to your religion to solve this matter first before attacking Islam.
If you believe in one God, then you are Muslim and Islam means submission to one God, Adam peace be upon him came with the massage that God is one, so did all the prophets peace be upon them all, Islam means submission to one and only God with no partners.
@ExtraHoney Clearly it did. It stopped female feticide during that time, the practice of "sati," wife battering. As well as other issues. Plus the fact that we have equality in our religion enables us to do so much without the fear of being punished the way many women in Islam feel. We can wear what we want, say what we want, etc.)
We are equal in deeds, how many times I need to tell you this, If a Muslim man does one thing wrong and a Muslim woman does the same thing, they are both equal in doing a wrong deed, and the same goes for doing good deeds. God sees us and hears us all, therefore a day of judgement is needed, for those who mistreat woman, they will get their punishment if they didn't pay for their mistakes in this life, and the same goes for woman mistreating men.
@amritthechocolatebar Islam IS about equality. Im a britsh born female muslim, and i dont feel oppressed and i feel equal in my religion. Alot of what you see about islam being unfair or unequal, is just propoganda and by muslims who pick and choose what to believe. Men are allowed four wives not for there sexual pleasure, but for other reasons, i.e fertility problems, a man is allowed to take another wife in order to have a child if the first cannot provide. But he must treat all wives equal.
@xWelshAngelx Thats hardly the case. Different Muslims tell me different things. Also what you have said about Sikhism is correct, we aren't supposed to do certain things. But above all those things is how one is on the inside. There are people in every single religion that don't follow all the rules, you can't just say "people in Sikhism."
@amritthechocolatebar 1st i never said the phrase People in sikism, i used it as an example, there isnt a religion or belief system on this earth with all the people who follow it perfectly..2nd Of course different muslims will tell you different things, this is how they justify there actions or interpret whats written. Only Allah knows how he expects us to be, we use the Quran as our interpretation to how we should follow islam, some people will interpret it differently for there own needs.
@xWelshAngelx Well I'm just saying people in all religions do things they aren't supposed to. You can't assume one religion is perfect. I'm sure there are certain things you don't agree with in some religions. I have my opinion on this topic, as do you....
@amritthechocolatebar Okay, are you just stupid? Cos your saying alot of stuf i never said. i never said religion is perfect, i said there is not a religion out there that is followed perfectly by every follower. You never said there are people in all religions that do prohibited things, you just blamed muslims saying you know muslims who tell you different things. You are as dense as a brick. I never assumed religion is perfect, nor did i say that. Its you who are making assumptions.
@xWelshAngelx Clealry your anger illustrates the type of person you are. I did not once insult you. You need to calm down. I'm not as dense as a brick, clealry... I;m speaking from my experiences with different Muslims, take it as you will..
@xWelshAngelx LOL you are. You are seriously deluded. so if your speaking with experiences with different muslims you should know everyone follows there religion in different ways. So why are you asking questions on a video that is islamic? why dont you ask the muslims that you have experiences with TROLL ALERT
@amritthechocolatebar There are alot of religions out there who have certain guidlines that no one really follows or they misinterpret it for their needs, as you are a sikh, it is written in your scriptures, that you cannot drink, have sex before marriage, cut your hair, use intoxicants, yet my best friends are sikh and they do it all the time. There are several muslim followers who abuse the right to have four wives and use it as a selfish means.
I told you before even in Christianity and Judaism woman are asked to cover up, otherwise to shave their hair, which Islam doesn't ask woman to do, the nuns are covered from head to toe, not the priests, get your facts right and open your eyes, if a nun covers then the Christian woman should too, because they are not any lesser than the nuns, in their scriptures it doesn't say nuns only should cover but it says woman should cover.
@ExtraHoney I didn't ask you about Christianity. I go to a Catholic school, never have I heard about women needing to be covered up. The times of Moses, and Jesus were diffferent of course. By using the example of nuns, you're implying that all Catholic women should be nuns, but that makes no sense since Catholics do preach breeding. If all Catholic women were nuns, there would be no breeding.
Your Catholic church took a simple right of the woman which is to become a Wife and a Mother , how fair is that???? and they say they save themselves for Jesus, well if Jesus is your God then he doesn't need Wives, because he is not human anymore. I say go and solve the woman's right in catholic churches, go and apply Men and Woman are equal in your Church first before you do it here.
@ExtraHoney Clealry I've stated to you numerous times in my previous replies that I'm a Sikh. It's not MY Church. I was merley opposing your view. You said women in Catholicism are to be covered, I told you no. I was also explaining your point on nuns,. I didn't once say that becoming a Nun is what everyone should do. Again I am a Sikh.
Whoever you are may God be with you and me and everyone, may God's mercy be upon us all. We have to be able to live with each other no matter what religion we follow, there is no compulsion in religion, guidance is from God, and God guides whomever he wants.
Allah says in the Quran ( 49, 13)
[ O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, And made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (Not that ye despise each other).]
What I told you I mean it and it is from ME, and I used a passage from the holy Quran, that existed for 1400 years, FYI the Quran is the only Holy scripture in the world that didn't and can never get corrupt, you know why, because God promised that no man can change his last and final revelation.
Stick to your religion and if your religion is not good enough open your heart, eras and eyes so that God guides you to his ONE and ONLY religion.
@ExtraHoney Yeah I KNOW its from the Quran. Also you're spitting facts as though they've been scientifically. Thats clealry not the case. You as MUSLIMS BELIEVE it hasn't been corrupted. FYI I've heard from other Muslims, that the Quran as compared to the original copy has been modified. Don'y you dare try and put down my holy book. We as Sikhs believe that our Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the word of God..... BTW you've just contradicted your previous comment, by saying Islam is true
No one can ever produce only a chapter like the Quran. No one can ever corrupt and change it.
The Quran has no single contradiction, NOT a single, therefore everything stated in the Quran is true. The Quran contains scientific facts, historical facts, and many other facts, even non Muslim scientist accepted Islam and reverted to the true religion.
@ExtraHoney Thats your opinion, Those passages are what like 1400 years old? You can interpret them in any way. People in your religion believe that there are scientific facts, but if that were true then I'm pretty sure everyone would acknowledge that, not just Muslims. BTW everything you just said was your own opinion, an opinion many Muslims go by, but that doesn't mean its true.
@amritthechocolatebar You said you were stating experiences with Muslims. You can't judge a religion by people who follow it. If I used that logic I would be like:
Since Anders Behring Breivik is a Christian and terrorist, all Christians are terrorists.
Many people are converting to Islam because they found the true religion, Islam never forced anyone to convert, it is against the religion of Islam, let me give you a proof from the Quran:
There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned. Right guidance has become clearly distinct from error. Anyone who rejects false deities and believes in Allah has grasped the Firmest Handhold, which will never give way. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. (Surat al-Baqara, 256)
@ExtraHoney Yeah right! So I live in Ontario. In Toronto there was a seminar, where all these Isalmic preachers come to talk about the "positives" in Islam. They have these to try and convert people. I've also read that in Islam, if you can convert somone you will go to "heaven." I've also read in my school religion textbook that Muslims from the middle east, went to places like India and converted by force. I have other proof as well, but not enough space to write it all..
Firstly, in Islam we dont 'force' anyone to be a Muslim, thats completely and utterly forbidden. Because we muslims believe that (2:256) answers: "There is no compulsion in religion". So whoever does, is not following the correct teaching of Islam. Also, alot of the religious textbooks used in schools are made by biased, narrow minded people with no true knowledge. Brother, you shouldnt believe everything you read, verify it first.
1. You don't read in Islam, you read the book of the Islamic religion which is the Quran, now when you talk please reference, otherwise your talk is not enough as a proof.
2. Islam is all positive and why you go and listen, if you don't want to hear?
3. Everyone will go to heaven by God's mercy, our good deeds are never enough, whether Muslim or not Muslim, Allah hears and sees us all.
4. Only Allah guides there is NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION Quran (ch. 2, 256).
some people just amaze me...get your facts rights before you come bluffing your stupid accusations at muslims! You so brain washed that i feel pity for you..Know the difference s between facts and fiction. As much you think of muslims as murderous, we are glad to inform you that we are still the fastest growing religion in the world! Beat that!
Adhraa1 1 day ago
Money, diamonds etc. are things! Women is person!
MsGirlyMummy 2 days ago
@MsGirlyMummy it's not something you own.
MsGirlyMummy 2 days ago
Wooow!!!! thank you so much for posting this video. i especialy liked the last few minutes.. evry heart-warming :)
neyg9206 4 days ago
Ah, he trots out the whole "Muslim women are more respected" line. Yes, because telling someone what to do, regardless of her desire, or indeed causing her to believe without doubt that she -should- desire this action, is respectful to women.
Just like those Christians who still buy into all of Paul's misogyny. It's the 21st century, people.
HollowGolem 1 week ago
Awesome... <3
RitaAoi 1 week ago
Well said
julio14335 2 weeks ago in playlist Khalid Yasin
mashaalah may Allah bless you, amen
zeenaash 3 weeks ago
But here in Australia the only men that whistle are muslim.
HydroDay 1 month ago
@HydroDay
I'm a Muslim and I never whistled at a woman, that contradicts the teachings of Islam.
Lunarek 1 month ago 2
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Just look at the questions this "guru" has been asked: are muslims really that stupid ?
hierostratus 2 months ago
This made France, preventing the cover face for women, so as not to be a draft invitation to Islam in the street
sasa1010ism 2 months ago
This is the best answer that he could come up with?? The Prophet rode on a camel too, does that mean neglect that big as bmw you have in your drive way??
marshbey 2 months ago
1 Corinthians, chapter 11
5: But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6: For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
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Why Muslims don’t eat pork (from a Christian preacher)…If Jesus did not eat pork then why do Christians?
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thirdeyewise2 2 months ago
@thirdeyewise2 Very good comment, i liked it :)
xWelshAngelx 2 months ago
@dorothyplatt1
If you could tell me your contry then I can provide the figures. And instead of running a crisis centre for muslims u should run it for ur community. And more over these women who have boyfriends and sex before marraige and out side the wed lock and then have children all this is sin in Islam so I dont consider them as muslims. And neither those men who are equally to be blamed. Men & women brought up in islam know how big these sins are. Bcoz we fear allah the judgement day
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@tafreenkhan You really are a twisted, deluded, racist and i don't wish to converse with such a fanatic as yourself. people like you are the cause of wars, you need to chill out. If you kick out all the men that are having affairs behind the backs of muslim women there wouldn't be any left. you must be getting you statistics from your imam because there false. I wont be answering any more of your drivel i run the centre because muslim women need it and your women are to affraid to run themselves
dorothyplatt1 3 months ago
@dorothyplatt1 only women who dont have a strong character need a person like you to support them. or else who would want a support of a person who passes derogatory remarks about their religion and still cling on to people like you. I am racist who told you I am not. Not that we are afraid of supporting such men or women but we are ashamed of having such people in our society anyways u continue ur good work.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@dorothyplatt1 Waging unwanted unauthorised inhuman wars is ur trait first u spread abnoxious culture and then u pretend to help very funy. You all are in delusions where is it written that you lead a shameless life its not written in any of your holy scriptures. You people lead a deviated life from what your scripture teaches and u blame other voww how funny. I am not in delusion click in google and c 6 lakhs are killed in iraq, 3 lakhs are killed in afgan, chechenya bosnia. U people r barbaric
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
If you could tell me your contry then I can provide the figures. And instead of running a crisis centre for muslims u should run it for ur community. And more over these women who have boyfriends and sex before marraige and out side the wed lock and then have children all this is sin in Islam so I dont consider them as muslims. And neither those men who are equally to be blamed. Men & women brought up in islam know how big these sins are. Bcoz we fear allah the judgement day.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
why arabs are behind pilipino and indonesian housemaids.they are behind russian and turkish prostitutes.there are gays.but all are suppresed. they are relaxed in hotels and bars in dubai and bahrain.
sijoabey 3 months ago
amritthechocolatebar@ Video haha which video how will you know the truth in video. I have read my scritpture and it there in quran. I am not sure which video you saw pls dont c videos to confirm things. Y do any scholar give a reference of the chapter and the verse so that any one can go check refer and then understand. How can it be bogus when this is there from 1400 yrs. It doesnt matter if you dont blv, the scripture doesnt change neither does the power of almighty. Pls forward me the link
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
Video haha which video how will you know the truth in video. I have read my scritpture and it there in quran. I am not sure which video you saw pls dont c videos to confirm things. Y do any scholar give a reference of the chapter and the verse so that any one can go check refer and then understand. How can it be bogus when this is there from 1400 yrs. It doesnt matter if you dont blv the scripture doesnt change neither does the power of almighty. But its really funny thing about video really :)
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
I dont force you but read the scripture & c. Islamic monothiesm is reflected in the name Allah itself as it does not hav plural, gender
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Dont u think dis creator needs to be worshipd praisd and wat wud we be with out him, nothing. I blv in this supreme power and everything he told in Quran becoz it is truth, it proven by science. Dr. Kiethmore a doc saw the stages of embryo des in Quran and then nothin cud stop him from saying La ILaha ILLaLLa there is no other god other than Allah.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@tafreenkhan I saw a video of the embryo thing, and it was totally bogus.....
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
The quran so much in detail speaks about the stages of embryo which no one would have known other than creator. Scanning was developed 30 yrs back but who would have know this before 1400 yrs.Not only this quran also speaks about science in more than 1000 aayah (Verses) who could have known these 1400 yrs ago, the creator. We love him and only worship him because he gave me life and food and everything good thing in this world alhamdulillah, We thank him all the time.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Islam itself means submitting your will to allah and one who submits is called a muslim. As it is a way of life Allah has sent us scriptures to how to live and we follow those and those who dont follow those we belive that they have to be accountable for their choice and on judgement day he should be able to substantiate his or her choice. The holy book Quran has stand firm against the test of time place generations etc etc. Please read the foll. comm., I am not forcing.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Not only to you it will never work to any one if it is forced, thats what I am saying Hidayah (Guidance) only comes from allah, never from another human being. A human being can only tell the right thing but guidance can only come from supreme power. I guess more than loving your religion you should love ur creator. Islam is a way of life a life where you live your life according to allahs will. What allah has ordained us to do and to restrain from what he has forbid.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
if forcing and converting in islam was poosible, we would have done that to you first. But thats just not possible in Islam unless u blv in allah and his oneness how can you bcome a muslim. There are many muslims who are just for the sake of name, if we could have forced them we would have forced them to follow. But allah has given a free will to human beings with which they are able to discern good and evil. No one can force any one, guidance comes only 4m allah.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@tafreenkhan Yeah right. I go to a Catholic school verses a public school because of the quality of education. Also a large amount of people at my Catholic school are MuslimTrust me, forcing me to convert would NEVER work- I love my religion very much!
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar you should watch the full lecture, it's called 'the purpose of life', maybe then you might understand some things.
Poeticislam 3 months ago
Khalid never heard of the verses of the sucklings and the hadiths commanding men wives to provide sucklings for men other than there husbands. Its weird, its Islam
rasul616 3 months ago
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trindie 3 months ago
I have never heard such a croc of shite, muslim women are more precious than gold, etc. thats why they are raped and abused by men in their own families niqab and all, you physically and psychologically beat your women to do your bidding. covering up does nothing to deter rape, affairs or anything else and if you think it does your deluded but we already know you are ........your muslim
dorothyplatt1 3 months ago
@dorothyplatt1 what do you know about islam i am a muslim women and i know what we are and how much valuable we are. Please find out the statistics in your own country about the rapes and abortions (illegal) and multiple sex partners and childhood pregnancies. For you guys extramarital affairs is not a problem, fornication is not a problem rape is not a problem, child molestation is not a probelm. 9 year girls having sexual relations is not problem. But niqb is problem yyyy becoz it protects us?
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@tafreenkhan i run a crisis centre for muslim women that have suffered abuse at the hands of their muslim boyfriends and husbands, raped and beaten so dont try and tell me all mulims are good, at the end of the day they are human with all the human faults plus, just for the record there are just as many rapes, beatings, single mothers and affairs as there are in the non muslim communities. sexual child abuse is rife in your community and a niqab does not protect you. Do your research.
dorothyplatt1 3 months ago
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@dorothyplatt1 If you could tell me your contry then I can provide the figures. And instead of running a crisis centre for muslims u should run it for ur community. And more over these women who have boyfriends and sex before marraige and out side the wed lock and then have children all this is sin in Islam so I dont consider them as muslims. And neither those men who are equally to be blamed. Men & women brought up in islam know how big these sins are. Bcoz we fear allah the judgement day.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@dorothyplatt1 And who said there are no black sheep in our community. But in islam when ur doing something shameless ur no more a believer u become a disbeliever be it be man or women. We have equal rights in islam. And in islam men are first instructed to lower their gaze before we are instructed to wear niqab. Please read the scripture ur self and then reach conclusion the crisis centre which ur running for or not muslims and the men who are torturing them are also not muslims.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
@dorothyplatt1 While departing from this world Allahs Prophet (PBUH) has repeatedly instructed the men of our community to always take care of their wives and to behave in a decent and dignified manner. If they dont do so they will have to answer on the judgement day. So will the women if they do anything unlawful. The problem is that u only want to pick the balck sheep and say all are black.
tafreenkhan 3 months ago
I am a woman and i dont want the respect of a sexist arsehole, most muslim men i know dont respect their females at all,they treat them like possessions, diamonds, pearls, pin numbers just like the bearded freak says. i am an equal and if this stupid puerile man thinks that a woman covering up stops her from being abused go check your statistics, it doesn't matter what we wear because men are the weaker of the race, ruled by his bollocks as well as talking bollocks
dorothyplatt1 3 months ago
There's nothing more pathetic than a nigger convert to Islam
TWITVB 3 months ago
kindoffa answer expected in the absent of a real explanation. what here asked was why is it a tradition.. for what reason it became a tradition?
geezeweezebabypls 3 months ago
he is amazing man
rasul471 3 months ago
haha makes no sense! 1) Here, diamonds are for show, if you got em flaunt em, so his logic doesn't hold. 2) why do they have to cover before they get married then? so pathetic to think that women are like possessions, so demeaning to compare them to pin numbers and diamonds! Women should not be conditioned by what they wear, it should be the other way around! Arab man don't wistle cause there's nothing there to see! IT S ALL COVERED UP!!!
jelaylayful 4 months ago
@jelaylayful In reality what is demeaning is, when you treat them like cheap objects readily available for the benefit of men. When they go out looking like cheap thing that anyone can enjoy and look and use, thats demeaning. We treat them like diamonds and pin numbers. you treat them as rocks outside your house, Your neighbor will come and see wow, what a beautiful rock, and take it to his home and take a snap and keep in his wall.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru No idea who raised you but what you are describing is not true. We do not objectify women. DOT. I was raised with free choice and women here are allowed to dress the way they want without men not being able to control their instincts. If my neighbor sees a hot girl in the street the very rude people will whistle, the moderates will tell the lady "You are truly beautiful", and the polite will try to not show any emotion and hope she looked their way. Welcome to the West!
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful The people of immorality make you believe it is freedom and it is cool, but what you really doing is playing into their hands. Mr. playboy guys plays with women's psychology and use them as sexual objects. Just like that all women are used by the people of immorality and the women with their tiny intelligence think it is freedom and cool. LOL They dont have basic moral principles and self respect and strength to save themselves from being used. This is demeaning.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru You are immoral and demeaning to think that women are not able to make choices for themselves. I don't know who you are talking about as I am in a committed long term relationship and my friend, don t fear women, they are great! You are so out of your league you have no clue what you are saying! Probably never had a real dialogue with people outside your country without the extremist mentality you obviously uphold!
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful Your assumptions about me is way off. Yes, who says we force women to hijab? You have a choice to leave Islam, all you to do is leave. If you want your daughter to make choices like take drugs, be half naked, have unlawful sex, its okay no body will force her and we now know you dont even care, you care about giving more choices right. What is immoral is making the choice of being naked whether I force it or not to be not naked. CONT
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful Muslim women are not to be immoral like the people of immorality (namely USA). The people immorality call for the freedom of having sex in public, be nude, and be all immoral you can be, but thats not us Muslims, so dont try to come here and FORCE us to be immoral and tell us to be immoral, you be immoral all you want, CONT>
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful we Muslims dont care.But dont expect to immoral in places we govern, we unlike the people of immorality, does not tolerate immoral behavior from anyone, Muslim or not, black or white. You can have immoral relationships and have unlawful sex, and get illegitimate children but dont preach your immoral ways claiming to be an angel calling for good moral behavior.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful What choice women have? They are forced to take off the hijab in some countries. Little girls are dressed up as prostitutes from the very young age, and they are forced use sex appeal to get things as there are less male and males tend to marry only one and they tend to go for the most nude one. They are to watch shows which says immorality is the best and is cool in everything they watch. So what freedom? No, slavery it is. Slavery through psychological attacks.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru you are so intolerant of other cultures it is completely useless to even talk with a person like you. If you ever come to Europe give me a shout and I ll show you around and you ll see how wrong you are in your preconceptions of the people here and definitions of immorality.
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful Yes, your definition for what is moral maybe wearing a bikini. Just think of it this way, I am a more moral person that you and your cultures. Islam is more moral than you and your cultures. Yes I know full well to some people being nude is also moral. But you think if women are told not to be nude, that is taking away their freedom. No, it is building up GREAT MORAL character. Your morality is like a fly compared to Islam's morality. This is why I call you the people of immorality.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful You think freedom comes with immorality and nudity. You think freedom is more important than building better moral characters and models for societies to live in. This is our difference which u r intolerant about. You r intolerant towards Islam's morality and cultures, which is why you accuse Islam of taking freedom away. Are you free to walk into a elementary school nude? Why? Immoral n sick. The same way to a people of high moral standards it is immoral and sick to not wear hijab.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru the difference is we know where to draw the line. You hold double standards for women and men, we don't! to us morality is about how you act, not how you dress (which is ironic considering you are supposed to be doing this for spiritual reasons and I am the atheist...) I have nothing against Islam, don't put words into my mouth you prejudiced small minded superficial person!
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful This has nothing to do with me being a Muslim but everything to do with me being a Moral person, even if you are an atheist, Muslim, Christian, the morality should be upheld in its maximum. Societies need to learn what is moral and immoral objectively not by your own moral standards. You think women and men are equal physically? This is ignorance. Women and men are not the same naturally, and trying to change that is futile. You are impractical and an ideologist.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
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@PlrinPuruPuru 1) "Societies need to learn what is moral and immoral objectively not by your own moral standards." Morality obviously has a degree of subjectiveness as we can see by this conversation. You believe women should be covered because apparently men and women are not equally physically strong... You obviously have never been to a Dojo, women will kick your ass and hand it to you on a plate.
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful If a man and woman is fighting hardcore in the streets which one you would help? Have you heard of husband beater? Have you heard men getting raped (well, nowadays we have some feminine men and gays which are not normal)? Your idea of women and men being equal is denied naturally and practically only your idealistic views is different. The standard of women's morality should be naturally higher as a way to protect themselves and their family, stop corruption, etc.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru 1) husband beater: heard of that many times here. 2) Men do get raped and gays ARE normal. Have you ever met and talked to a homo without prejudice? Morality has nothing to do with religion! Look at all the evils and oppression religion has done in it s name. How is it moral to keep one sex covered up based on superficial differences? How is it moral to deny them the same rights? Oppression is not moral. Give women credit, they know what moral really means.
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful You go watch your movies with extraordinary women who can do anything and anything at all and be greater than men in everything, but know this, this is only movies. In reality women are being played, abused, used, slavery of mind, etc... when a women gets pregnant, are they equal? which one has the higher risk of loosing out more? This is why it is naturally more important to protect the one who would loose more. Well, nowadays the child will be just adopted, so no worries right?
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru tell this to Merkel, sure she s being played... The woman has no risk to loose anything! the man on the other hand does, she can run away and make the child hate the father and be out of his life.,... dude you should really get out more!
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful So the real difference is you are an ideologist and I am being practical. Your one standard for two different things is laughable and impractical. It does not work for the better. You are too thick to see that or you just like to abuse women's beauty and their lack of self-respect and intelligence. The west have been abusing women by various psychological and physical attacks. When you get naked, you are beautiful and everything is easy and readily available - thats the psychology.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful Oh! I forgot better than adoption is abortion right? So all the time being equal and having your way, when you finally realize you are left with a baby inside your belly and the guy is going around enjoy himself just like they were enjoying themselves. This is the reality, not the ideas planted by people who encourage and wish immorality would spread. What you should realize is women are different and the rules are different for women and it is for their OWN benefit,
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru you are so prejudiced and limited in view. Seriously? women are not only to have babies you freak! that is so primitive it is pathetic... Again, I hold no grudge against you, your constant regurgitation of pure propaganda is ridiculous and obviously comes from an ignorant mind. Travel, see the world, immerse yourself in a different culture, find the meaning of empathy, and if you ever come by this side of the world, I welcome you to contact me and have a nice chat so you can be :)
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful hahahahaha, Your view is limited. I should have expected this from a guy who has no moral values. Did I say women are for only to have babies or I point out there is no equality when it comes to natural way of things like having a baby? Hahah, give women credit? Do you see the women these days, so cheap, like prostitutes, especially in your western cultures.
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PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful If they know what is moral then, then are you suggesting they are just being evil by choosing to be immoral? I dont think men uses their sex appeal as much as women do, and probably will never be able to do so with their inherent differences. Look at yourself, do you have any thinking capability? Superficial differences? LOL. I didn't know it is a right of a person to whether he should be moral or not,CONT>
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful isnt it the right of the society as to benefit it as a whole to decide what is moral? It is not oppression, it is freedom.
Oppression is playing with their psychology by telling them being free is being able to do immoral things, you oppress them into slaves of your ideas. A smart women, if there are any, would recognize this. A smart, respectable and a moral women is someone who covers her self to protect herself from immorality, CONT>
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru Enough. you are pure close minded and lost in your own ways. You are so prejudiced against women and so lost it is not even fun to talk to you anymore. it is so digusting the view you have of women. If you only dared going to a person in Europe and telling them "I know what is good for you because I am of this religion and of this sex, what I say is true full stop" you would get such a reality check. I feel so sorry for you that you cannot appreciate differences. goodbye.
jelaylayful 3 months ago
@jelaylayful haha, who said I am preaching this to you? No, we only want Muslim women to be like this, you and your women can have sex in public, be nude, and call it your differences or cultures whatever. It is you the west who needs to appreciate the differences of Muslims and you, and stop calling this as oppression. Your narrow mind views are just as much hated as you hate my views. So, goodbye.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful lustful gazes of men, and does not think sex appeal should be used as a tool. This is the kind of women we want to promote not your kind. If women want to take the fool's way (your way), they are welcome to do it elsewhere where there are no Muslims, as we want smart, respectable and moral women.
And if you think women are being oppressed in Islam, don't you think that Muslim women are people who should show concern? CONT>
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful Ask a respectable, smart Muslim women about hijab, and see whether it is oppression or freedom from your lustful gazes and toying with them. Men dont go wearing a boxer or other sorts of small and beautiful dresses, because men naturally are smart and have better self-respect, at least from what we see, we understand it this way. So, who really is ignorant of what is truly right is you dude.
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PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful You need to travel the world and learn what is a moral, respectable and smart woman and whether you want your women whom you need to protect as a man to be that or cheap objects you threw on the street telling them to do whatever they want. Its like throwing your daughter to street and say do whatever you wish to do, CONT>
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@jelaylayful I think it is your right to do whatever you want. no, rather it is your right to protect her from harmful ways even if it is from herself. This is a real man, not a man like yourself. So, no thanks, I rather be a real man who protects women and children rather than loner man who cannot take care of them and protect them from their own harmful ways.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru Basically you're saying Islam is sexist, because you said "protecting women." Women are quite capable of doing that themselves.
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar lol, women are quite capable of doing that themselves? Is this observed reality or what you tell your girlfriend to make her happy or what you tell yourself to keep you happy? Islam is realistic unlike your views. If they are able to protect themselves as you say, why are they getting abused? They are treated like cheap whores, and they complain about this, but doesn't know it is them who has not protected themselves from such treatment, yet u saying they can by themselves?
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru I'm a female you cunt. And Islam is NOT realistic at all... Women are NOT dogs, who need a man to protect them. Sure you might believe they do, because of the brainwashing you've undergone. Women in Islam are seen as sex toys..Yes women in ISLAM do get abused by their husbands, sexually and mentally.. This isn't the case everywhere though. You need to come out of your little Sharia law abiding hole, and see how the world really is, because you seriously have no clue....
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar lol, from your first sentence, everyone has seen the morality level of you. No need to argue further with an immoral person such as yourself. I think any sensible man can derive a sex toy when they see one. And when I see a naked person giving pleasures to the eyes of men, thats what I call a sex toy. Every man enjoys it and every man 'tap their a**' easily like a sex toy. So cheap and easy are women such as yourself who are immoral. LOL Sex toy is what u are naturally ryt?
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Every man sees you as something to have sex with when you walk around half naked, except the gays. Nobody would see you as human being who deserves something other than our manhood. And this is quite clear, ask for the true opinion of men. LOL . Ask any man whether they dont look at women for pleasure and think of having sex with her when they see women half naked walking around. So ignorant and unrealistic.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru being moral *
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar The immorality which you create in men's mind alone is a good reason as to why you should cover up yourself. Unless you want the whole of men in society to be immoral, then you have no choice. But I guess you are too selfish to care about men isnt that right? I know you are not moral enough to cover yourself to stop a clear cause of immorality. Welcome to reality. You are either immoral or self-fish if you dont cover yourself up, and neither of those reasons are of good.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru You make absolutley no sense. Being moral doesn't make you smart.. What you're telling me is that, your religion clearly doesn't practice self control.. Your religion basically say's it's okay for men to do whatever they'd like to, but when it comes to women it's whole other story.. I don't need to follow the beliefs of somebody else's religion, when my religion isperfect. Just because I don't cover up, it doesn't make me immoral. I follow me religion and that's all that matters.
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar When Muslim women cover themselves up they are forcing men to look beyond their bodies and looks and appreciate them for who they are. The women of the western societies who expose themselves are oppressed. You have pre-teens on diets, starving themselves, trying to 'fit in'. You have teen girls suffering from depression & committing suicide cause they don't look a certain way. You have girls wearing globs of make up & throwing up getting diseases just so they look 'good'.
UrSoNotRandom 3 months ago
@UrSoNotRandom young girls wear the tightest of clothes & promote nudity while boys whistle and appreciate these girls for their bodies. Middle aged women try to stop growing older by covering up wrinkles, getting their hair done getting all types of surgery. These women aren't respected for who they are. They're liked for their bodies and these men wouldn't even care for them if it weren't for the shape of their bodies. Hijab uplifts a woman. It doesn't degrade her.
UrSoNotRandom 3 months ago
@UrSoNotRandom That most defenitley is not the reason for why they cover up.... Women in Islam are clearly oppressed. Yeah maybe some people have problems fitting in, so they take drastic measure, but over all, it's quite clear that women in Islam face harsher rules, and extreme oprression. I mean you have rules that women can't pray when they're on their period, and they have to shave their pubic hair when their on their period.... These rules clearly illustrate unjustice in Islam
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Oppression which leads to sucide and depression are evident in your society, People who are beautiful are appreciated and people who are well ugly are mocked or are forced to change how they look, this is the society you have created for yourself. Everything is about your looks, not about the person. So, how is this not oppression? This is the most extreme oppression I have ever known.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar You seem to be misinformed so I'd like to correct you. For one both men and women cannot go 40 days without shaving pubic hair as it is unhygienic and simply gross. This rule is not specifically for women. Secondly women cannot offer salah when they're on their period. Salah is a form or worship. Women CAN pray and ask God for anything. In fact they're encouraged to do worship God even if they're on their period. Lastly, that is why Muslim women were told by God to cover up
UrSoNotRandom 3 months ago
@UrSoNotRandom I'm quite sure what you"ve told me is incorrect. First of all, every Muslim I've met has told me that Muslim WOMEN shave their pubic hair, I've never once heard that about men- that's why I highly doubt it. Secondly I've also researched, and read the same thing. As for the praying while on your period, I meant going to the Mosque. Even if you're correct then the exclusion from "salah" is still a form of discrimination,
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar lol at your comment. Yes being ignorant and self-fish can work, but know this you cannot defy the rules of nature. You may want to live forever without getting old, but you cannot. You may want to go naked and expect every men to exercise control, you cannot. Only a few can exercise it, so dont be be narrow minded and self-fish. I am saying there is no other way except women do it, or bare the consequence of immorality spreading and society destroy itself.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Immorality spreads and destroys other moral behaviors. You are welcome to do whatever you like, but know that what you do has great consequences, evident in the societies. This has nothing to do with religion, it is about morality and consequence.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru LOL if that was the most extreme form oppression, then it would have been pointed out. But instead, the world views Islam as oppressive, and it's true....
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Its funny how the people who dont wear the hijab are the people concerned over the ones who do. LOL The ones who wear hijab thinks you are the one who is oppressed and abused and stupid. I wonder what you call the world is west. hahaha. Muslims are different than you. Get that to your head. Muslims are to be best moral characters, get that to your head. They are more respectable than you sluts and prostitutes.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago 2
@amritthechocolatebar Only smart, respectable and moral women can protect themselves and this is done by obeying the commands of their Creator. So, to make our women respectable and moral is the duty of who else? Men and women are made for each other. Women make us respectable and moral and we should make them respectable and moral, yet you want to live like animals, without helping each other to the best of moral character?
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru Yeah right. I know so many Muslim women who DON'T wear a hijab, and if they do it's because they're forced to. I'm pretty sure I don't know anybody that started wearing the hijab out of free will.... S o Islam say's it's okay to insult people the way you are? If that's the case, then good luck in your "great" religion. I'm SOOO grateful I'm a Sikh:)
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar lol, you dont know, I know thousands, in fact almost all of the women in my community wear it out of free will. I think its time you talk to real Muslims who follow Islam closely rather than people who says they believe but not even pray. These are not Muslims, they are just on the way to being Muslims who never really got there. Obviously you dont know many Muslim women to claim they dont do it out of freewill .LOL
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru That's bullshit... I go to a Catholic school which is FULL of Muslims, and some wear the hijab. When they come to school they take it off, or they just don't bother wearing it all.... Matter of fact the city I live in is FULL if Pakistani Muslims, and various other Muslims. Many smoke weed, drink alchol, have sex before marriage, etc.) Muslim women that I know actually talk about how they like short shorts and other "western" clothing. So what you're saying is wrong..
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Okay then, next time ask them why they are Muslims and if they know anything about Islam and why if they know they still claim to Muslims when they are not really Muslims. Please get those answers to me. I am curious as to why someone would call themselves Muslim when they are not following Islam. Is Muslim a family name they could describe themselves as.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru I already know, we always have discussions of religion, and they seem to know everything about Islam.
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Seem to know and knowing is different. My younger brother seems to know everything, but he doesn't know anything correctly. Ask them are they hypocrites, this is a legit question since their actions are despised in Islam. Ask them why choose Islam if you are not going to obey Allah swt. Ask them whether they are just following Islam because their parents are Muslims. Because you cannot be a Muslim if you do not obey your God in these serious matters.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru They all share the same information with me, I'm quite sure they know what they're talking about, because they're from strict Muslim backgrounds, and some of their mothers wear hijabs as proof of their strict upbringing..
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Wearing hijab is not based on strict upbringing, many in my community wear fashion hijabs because others wear it, their parents wear it, not because they know why they are wearing it. Its more of a culture. These cultural Muslims are not following the teachings of Islam but their culture. If you are telling me they know about Islam yet they are not Muslims but Muslims by name, shame on them. Tell them shame be on the hypocrites or are u of the ignorant or the oblivious.
PlrinPuruPuru 3 months ago
@PlrinPuruPuru I'm not iggnorant, and GENERALLY wearing a hijab symbolizes a strict upbringing..
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar I'm a 15 year old Muslim girl living in Toronto Canada and I didn't have a strict upbringing nor was I forced to wear the hijab. I've been wearing it for 5 years and I wouldn't go anywhere without it. I also went to an Islamic school and there I've met dozens of girls who wore the hijab out of choice.
UrSoNotRandom 3 months ago
@UrSoNotRandom Yeah exactly, you went to an Islamic school.... based on what you just said I still believe you were brought up in a strict household.... And don't try telling me, "oh I went based on my own decision." That's hardly ever the case..
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar The only thing needed to be cared about is worshiping Allah. Please accept the truth because once you are misguided you are capable of entering the hell-fire. Please, save yourself before it's too late.
thelightfollowed 3 months ago
@thelightfollowed I'm quite content follwing Sikhism. Also I don't believe in the idea of "hell." No need to try and push your beliefs on others.
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar It's npt my belief, but our belief. Every child was born muslim, knowing we have one creator, Allah, that took care of our lives. Yet, as some grew, converted and went astray with misguidance. I only want to you to be saved from the hell-fire. Whether disbelieving or not, believe the hell-fire, it's the promise that is true.
thelightfollowed 3 months ago
@thelightfollowed yeah it is your belief... That doesn't even make sense, since Islam came after Judaism and Christianity. You have no right to tell me it's my belief as well. I'm not Muslim so I DO have different beliefs.
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
No, Judaism and Christianity once used to be Islam, but they led their own selves astray with their own leaders, kings, government and scholars. But however I'm not going to force you to believe the truth. However, I have to warn you during this Dunia and test and repent during this test before entering the after-life with regret.
thelightfollowed 3 months ago
@thelightfollowed Buddy Hinduism is the oldest RECORDED religion in the world... I'm a Sikh, I don't believe in your afterlife, I belief in reincarnation....
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Whether you believe it or not, the promise of hell-fire and heaven is true. The best thing to do is to not deny it, and accept it with your heart.
thelightfollowed 3 months ago
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ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney Sikhism is nothing like Islam at all... We don't wear a hijab, it's called a TURBAN! Men and women wear it. It's also not meant for the same reasons that Muslims wear a hijab....I agree that there are similarities between all religions, but in the grand scheme of things we are quite different.
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Sorry but I didn't see no Sikh woman wearing a TURBAN, I always see men wearing it, and besides why do you have to grow your hair and cover it, why are you not allowed to cut your hair, I wonder what is the logic behind it, I respect all other religions, that is the teaching of my religion , Islam is the most logical complete religion that any human can follow, and is the only religion accepted by GOD, Ask Allah to guide you.
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney Actually buddy A LOT of women wear turbans, or just a patka on their heads. The reason we have turbans is to keep our long hair in order. We keep our hair, because it's our gift from God. As for covering we, we believe that God is in every direction, everywhere.Here you are trying to talk badly about my religion, yet you're telling me your religion preaches respect? I don't find any sort of practicality in Islam, and thats my opinion. Allaah means God does it not? WellasasSikhIblvGOD
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
If Men and women cover their hair in Sikhism, why do you have a problem with Muslim woman covering??? I didn't disrespect your religion in fact you are disrespecting Islam. Islam is 1400 years old, while Sikhism is only 500 years old. Islam gave human SOLUTIONS, what solutions Sikhism gave NOTHING, If hair is gift from god so is nails grow them as well. Your religion is written by men, some of who went to Mecca, your religion is a mix of Islam and Hinduism. Wake up.
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney Because in Islam, only women cover their heads for "modesty." Also Islam has helped nobody okay? You forced people to convert to Islam, we don't do that- yet people still convert, and our religion i growing. Our religion is considered one of the best religions, because its accepting and provides equality. In no way is it a mix of Hindiusm and Islam at ALL. As for growing your nails. Well after a while of growing your nails, they start to grow nerves- this causes pain
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Yes Muslim, Christian and Jewish woman they are all supposed to cover their hair for modesty, so don't attack Islam , educate yourself about the religion or are you just following who the media attacks??
Islam came with a solution to problems, bigger problems than letting hair, and nail grow or cutting it.
Guru Nanak the founder of Sikhism copied the Quran, voluminous Guru Granth ( Holy book of Sikhs ) Quran is mentioned by name more than once.
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney WOAH you are a moron. I go to a Catholic school. We have learnt about Catholocism and skimmed Judaism. No where has modesty been mentioned. Also the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is most defenitley not a copy od the Quran. We don't have to be oppressed and beaten by our husbands. Men and women are EQUAL- a concept that may be foreign to you. Our holy book is from God. Also what problems has Islam solved? Anything written in a book can be interpreted any way you like-doesn't meananything
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Everything you said reflects what your religion taught you, Islam is above all religions, and nothing but perfect is the word of God that we have the Quran.
Men and woman are equal only in deeds, but men and woman can never be equal in biological,physical and emotional functions. Only insane people will tell you men and woman are equal in everything.
Stick to your holy book ' Catholic and Sikh mix' and stop attacking other people with your ignorance and foul language.
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney Yeah my religion is totally awesome! It makes sense because we are the most reasonable and equal! You saying that men and women are not equal. show's me what your religion has taught you..And trust me I will stick to my holy book- because I believe it's fantastic. Sikhism never preaches hate. We accept, while all you try to do is "tolerate."
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
1. If you think men and women are equal in EVERYTHING then you must be in denial, your mother could give birth to you while your father couldn't do that, because biologically they are DIFFERENT not equal.
2. Millions of Christians and Jews live in Islamic countries for centuries FYI , their rights are given to them, that is more than tolerance, that is fairness and that is Islam.
3. If men and women are equal in Sikhism WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ONE SINGLE FEMALE GURU?
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney I'm obviously not talking about giving birth. I'm talking about capability and worth. Also thats balogna. I know some Iraqi Christians- who have come to Canada, because they aren't treated fairly. Also the Muslims running those countries love staring wars, and having the citizens pay for it. As for why there were no femal gurus: during that time period India had many Muslims (and Muslim emperors) living there. They had basically convinced people that women were below men...
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
So Sikhism didn't solve anything if they still went on with the thought that women are below men.. I leave the rest to your religion to solve this matter first before attacking Islam.
If you believe in one God, then you are Muslim and Islam means submission to one God, Adam peace be upon him came with the massage that God is one, so did all the prophets peace be upon them all, Islam means submission to one and only God with no partners.
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney Clearly it did. It stopped female feticide during that time, the practice of "sati," wife battering. As well as other issues. Plus the fact that we have equality in our religion enables us to do so much without the fear of being punished the way many women in Islam feel. We can wear what we want, say what we want, etc.)
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
We are equal in deeds, how many times I need to tell you this, If a Muslim man does one thing wrong and a Muslim woman does the same thing, they are both equal in doing a wrong deed, and the same goes for doing good deeds. God sees us and hears us all, therefore a day of judgement is needed, for those who mistreat woman, they will get their punishment if they didn't pay for their mistakes in this life, and the same goes for woman mistreating men.
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney So why do women have to stay covered up, while men don't? Also why can Muslim men have like three wives?
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Islam IS about equality. Im a britsh born female muslim, and i dont feel oppressed and i feel equal in my religion. Alot of what you see about islam being unfair or unequal, is just propoganda and by muslims who pick and choose what to believe. Men are allowed four wives not for there sexual pleasure, but for other reasons, i.e fertility problems, a man is allowed to take another wife in order to have a child if the first cannot provide. But he must treat all wives equal.
xWelshAngelx 2 months ago
@xWelshAngelx Thats hardly the case. Different Muslims tell me different things. Also what you have said about Sikhism is correct, we aren't supposed to do certain things. But above all those things is how one is on the inside. There are people in every single religion that don't follow all the rules, you can't just say "people in Sikhism."
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar 1st i never said the phrase People in sikism, i used it as an example, there isnt a religion or belief system on this earth with all the people who follow it perfectly..2nd Of course different muslims will tell you different things, this is how they justify there actions or interpret whats written. Only Allah knows how he expects us to be, we use the Quran as our interpretation to how we should follow islam, some people will interpret it differently for there own needs.
xWelshAngelx 2 months ago
@xWelshAngelx Well I'm just saying people in all religions do things they aren't supposed to. You can't assume one religion is perfect. I'm sure there are certain things you don't agree with in some religions. I have my opinion on this topic, as do you....
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar Okay, are you just stupid? Cos your saying alot of stuf i never said. i never said religion is perfect, i said there is not a religion out there that is followed perfectly by every follower. You never said there are people in all religions that do prohibited things, you just blamed muslims saying you know muslims who tell you different things. You are as dense as a brick. I never assumed religion is perfect, nor did i say that. Its you who are making assumptions.
xWelshAngelx 2 months ago
@xWelshAngelx Clealry your anger illustrates the type of person you are. I did not once insult you. You need to calm down. I'm not as dense as a brick, clealry... I;m speaking from my experiences with different Muslims, take it as you will..
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@xWelshAngelx LOL you are. You are seriously deluded. so if your speaking with experiences with different muslims you should know everyone follows there religion in different ways. So why are you asking questions on a video that is islamic? why dont you ask the muslims that you have experiences with TROLL ALERT
xWelshAngelx 2 months ago
@xWelshAngelx That made absolutely no sense at all BTW:)
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar There are alot of religions out there who have certain guidlines that no one really follows or they misinterpret it for their needs, as you are a sikh, it is written in your scriptures, that you cannot drink, have sex before marriage, cut your hair, use intoxicants, yet my best friends are sikh and they do it all the time. There are several muslim followers who abuse the right to have four wives and use it as a selfish means.
xWelshAngelx 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
I told you before even in Christianity and Judaism woman are asked to cover up, otherwise to shave their hair, which Islam doesn't ask woman to do, the nuns are covered from head to toe, not the priests, get your facts right and open your eyes, if a nun covers then the Christian woman should too, because they are not any lesser than the nuns, in their scriptures it doesn't say nuns only should cover but it says woman should cover.
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney I didn't ask you about Christianity. I go to a Catholic school, never have I heard about women needing to be covered up. The times of Moses, and Jesus were diffferent of course. By using the example of nuns, you're implying that all Catholic women should be nuns, but that makes no sense since Catholics do preach breeding. If all Catholic women were nuns, there would be no breeding.
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Your Catholic church took a simple right of the woman which is to become a Wife and a Mother , how fair is that???? and they say they save themselves for Jesus, well if Jesus is your God then he doesn't need Wives, because he is not human anymore. I say go and solve the woman's right in catholic churches, go and apply Men and Woman are equal in your Church first before you do it here.
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney Clealry I've stated to you numerous times in my previous replies that I'm a Sikh. It's not MY Church. I was merley opposing your view. You said women in Catholicism are to be covered, I told you no. I was also explaining your point on nuns,. I didn't once say that becoming a Nun is what everyone should do. Again I am a Sikh.
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Whoever you are may God be with you and me and everyone, may God's mercy be upon us all. We have to be able to live with each other no matter what religion we follow, there is no compulsion in religion, guidance is from God, and God guides whomever he wants.
Allah says in the Quran ( 49, 13)
[ O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, And made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (Not that ye despise each other).]
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney Oh right! Like getting a couple of quotes off of the internet is going to do anything.
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
What I told you I mean it and it is from ME, and I used a passage from the holy Quran, that existed for 1400 years, FYI the Quran is the only Holy scripture in the world that didn't and can never get corrupt, you know why, because God promised that no man can change his last and final revelation.
Stick to your religion and if your religion is not good enough open your heart, eras and eyes so that God guides you to his ONE and ONLY religion.
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney Yeah I KNOW its from the Quran. Also you're spitting facts as though they've been scientifically. Thats clealry not the case. You as MUSLIMS BELIEVE it hasn't been corrupted. FYI I've heard from other Muslims, that the Quran as compared to the original copy has been modified. Don'y you dare try and put down my holy book. We as Sikhs believe that our Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the word of God..... BTW you've just contradicted your previous comment, by saying Islam is true
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Yes Islam is the true religion, why????
No one can ever produce only a chapter like the Quran. No one can ever corrupt and change it.
The Quran has no single contradiction, NOT a single, therefore everything stated in the Quran is true. The Quran contains scientific facts, historical facts, and many other facts, even non Muslim scientist accepted Islam and reverted to the true religion.
There is one GOD, therefore 1 true religion.
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney Thats your opinion, Those passages are what like 1400 years old? You can interpret them in any way. People in your religion believe that there are scientific facts, but if that were true then I'm pretty sure everyone would acknowledge that, not just Muslims. BTW everything you just said was your own opinion, an opinion many Muslims go by, but that doesn't mean its true.
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Non Muslim scientists acknowledged the scientific facts in the Quran, you will find some on you tube.
No one can hide the truth, the truth will always out shine the darkness of the doubt.
ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@ExtraHoney You're entitled to your opinion. Believe what you'd like and I'll do the same....
amritthechocolatebar 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar You said you were stating experiences with Muslims. You can't judge a religion by people who follow it. If I used that logic I would be like:
Since Anders Behring Breivik is a Christian and terrorist, all Christians are terrorists.
HJI146896 1 month ago
@amritthechocolatebar Your comments contradict too. You have your own opinion about Islam, but that does not mean you are right either.
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ExtraHoney 2 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
Many people are converting to Islam because they found the true religion, Islam never forced anyone to convert, it is against the religion of Islam, let me give you a proof from the Quran:
There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned. Right guidance has become clearly distinct from error. Anyone who rejects false deities and believes in Allah has grasped the Firmest Handhold, which will never give way. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. (Surat al-Baqara, 256)
ExtraHoney 3 months ago
@ExtraHoney Yeah right! So I live in Ontario. In Toronto there was a seminar, where all these Isalmic preachers come to talk about the "positives" in Islam. They have these to try and convert people. I've also read that in Islam, if you can convert somone you will go to "heaven." I've also read in my school religion textbook that Muslims from the middle east, went to places like India and converted by force. I have other proof as well, but not enough space to write it all..
amritthechocolatebar 3 months ago
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Ayan120 3 months ago
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Firstly, in Islam we dont 'force' anyone to be a Muslim, thats completely and utterly forbidden. Because we muslims believe that (2:256) answers: "There is no compulsion in religion". So whoever does, is not following the correct teaching of Islam. Also, alot of the religious textbooks used in schools are made by biased, narrow minded people with no true knowledge. Brother, you shouldnt believe everything you read, verify it first.
Ayan120 3 months ago
@amritthechocolatebar
1. You don't read in Islam, you read the book of the Islamic religion which is the Quran, now when you talk please reference, otherwise your talk is not enough as a proof.
2. Islam is all positive and why you go and listen, if you don't want to hear?
3. Everyone will go to heaven by God's mercy, our good deeds are never enough, whether Muslim or not Muslim, Allah hears and sees us all.
4. Only Allah guides there is NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION Quran (ch. 2, 256).
ExtraHoney 3 months ago