Is it possible to sprint really hard on these roller? Elite also produce a set of e-motion rollers (without the rear wheel bumpers). The video for them demonstrates a very weak/wimpy looking sprint.
@rikoshea5234 I don't think you'll fall off, but your back tire will probably slip/lose traction and be really annoying. Also, if you have your front wheel positioned slightly behind (like fractions of an inch) behind the front roller and if you put a ton of weight on your front bars, your wheel could slide off the back off the front roller, maybe not all the way off the back because of the safety bar, but ... the big problem is loosing traction on the rear wheel.
Thanks for the video. I used to own a Kurt Kinetc trainer which I used 3 or 4 times... and sold. You saved me from buying another piece of overpriced junk.
Great video infotainment! I got rollers to train for an upcoming ride and had to curb a shopaholic urge to get e-motion rollers after watching your video! Luckily a financial reality check helped dampen my enthusiasm, plus some further research. But I mention your video in my cycling club's blog so I thought I'd write to say hi and tell you to check out the Beach Cities Cycling Club blog if you'd like to see the link to your video. Happy riding!
I am considering laying out for these but they're alot of money. I currently have a set of roller with a mag resistance unit that I'm very comforable with but I can't really realistically mimic the standing climbing position. Is there enough resistance with the E-Motion rollers to get a good standing climbing workout ? I saw the one clip of you standing at max resistance. Boy did your bike look like it was flexing alot....
@JoeOxfordCT If I put the resistance up high and stand, the rear wheel slips so when I stand, I need to have the resistance fairly low. I don't know if newer or stickier tires would help this or not.
@bradtube1 - Well that sounds to me like a lot of resistance combined with maybe having your center of gravity too far forward which is causing the rear wheel to slip.... yes, no ?
Also, it's now been a year since you posted up this video. What are your feelings now about the E-Motions ? Pros, Cons, what you would change if you could, etc.
@JoeOxfordCT well... not even a lot of resistance makes them slip. yes, you can stand with your weight less forward, but it doesn't feel natural. Maybe you could elevate the front wheel slightly and stand and not slip. my thoughts? well, I wish I could use my mountain bike on them but the wheelbase is too long. i really had fun on them initially, just trying to balance and stuff, but once you get comfortable on them, they are every bit as boring as any other trainer.
@bradtube1 "... they are every bit as boring as any other trainer."
This is my other thought....no matter how hot these are as a trainer, they are still a trainer. For $850 I could but alot more winter clothes & fenders and ride outside more this coming winter and just use my existing rollers when conditions absolutely make cycling impossible.
@JoeOxfordCT Lemond has a pretty cool new trainer out - you remove your rear wheel and put the bike on a simulated rear wheel, supposed to feel just like road biking. maybe not the challenge of rollers, but ... interesting little machine.
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I'm pretty sure the issue with this roller set picking up tire rubber has to do with the small diameter drum they used for the front tire. This causes a high-flex area in the contact patch. Many other rollers will use larger-diam drums up front to improve this, or get a really slick tire that you can get to a higher pressure. After you've plunked down $800 for this rig, you can afford a spare front wheelset eh?
I really don't know. I have a cyclocross bike and do 100% of my outdoor riding on it with cyclocross tires on it. On the trainer, I put on road tires. In two years of trainer riding (not really all that much riding), these tires have become quite shiny and perfectly smooth - no tread left at all. So - I do think they wear out your tires, but if you had a set you only used on the trainer, like I do, you'll get at least a couple years out of them.
Great! Thanks for the fast response! I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one of those...Could be practical even in the summer on rainy days! Thanks again!
Great review. I've been looking at these rollers for about a week now, and your video, even more so than anything else I've seen, has convinced me this is what I want. I am a MTN bike racer here in Wisconsin, but have a cross bike that I use like a road bike most the summer. I remember seeing on the company website that most mountain bikes would not work due to the wheel span. Anyway, Thanks for such a great review...No more spin class for me!
Cool! I still love them and they're still working perfectly. I too am using my cyclocross bike with road tires on it. I found boredom to be the biggest issue and either creating music videos or just youtube playlists of music videos helps a lot. I have another video on those. Good luck racing!
You should be on commission. I was reviewing whether to buy a staionary bike, trainer or rollers and you convinced me to fork out the extra dosh for an e-motion and I'm glad I did.
Tell me, can you use your new trainer tires (assuming you bought some) on the road or do you swap them?
I know - I should get a commission but I don't! :-(
Haven't bought new tires.
I ride my mountain bike 99.9% of the time outdoors, put cyclocross tires on my cyclocross bike for the summer and then never ride it, then put the road tires back on for the winter when I ride the rollers. My road tires are still sort of loud and they're getting real shiny/completely smooth.
I started making YouTube Playlists and watch music vids with a cable from my PC to TV. Helps with the boredom.
This is the most useful video I've ever seen on YouTube. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I think you've convinced me to get this. I wish it wasn't so expensive!
I just bought the e-motion rollers about two weeks ago and I agree with Brad. These are the best rollers I have ever used. They are made extremely well. If you can swing the cost, you won't be disappointed.
Brad, first off great review, I have a few questions.
I'm thinking about taking the plunge and getting either a high quality trainer or the E-motion rollers. My primary concern is tire wear (I'll ONLY be riding my road bike on the rollers). Have you noticed premature wearing on your tires?
having a spare wheelset is not an option since I want to train with power and I use a PowerTap wheelset (and can't afford to throw down another grand for a training Powertap)
Thanks! The actual manufacturer of the rollers watched this video and recommended using:
Performance Forte' Pro DC 700x23c
tires. Someone else recommended using:
Continental Ultra Sport Home Trainer Clincher
I'm not sure which I'm going to try, but I'm going to try one. I don't have a road bike but do have road and cross wheels and ride the cross wheels/tires pretty much 100% of the time outdoors, so if the Conti's are dedicated indoor tires, that doesn't bother me.
The actual manufacturer contacted me and told me they thought my tires were making a lot of noise and recommended some tires too. Some people thought I was using cyclocross tires, which I was NOT. Thanks for the recommendation! I will definitely switch to those tires... Indoor riding season's coming right up. :-(
I love cycling. It's the only sport I really fell in love with. I tried boxing, marathons, baseball, speed running, swimming. I never liked any of them as much as cycling.
A+ Review! Thanks for making such a great video! I just got into biking and I've been looking for a good indoor trainer to use for rainy days and during winter...this looks like the ticket! I was planning on an indoor trainer until I found out about rollers and your review put me over the edge.
This is a very well done and accurate review of the e-motion rollers. I use them with my PowerCranks and it is the ultimate unconscious pedal stroke, core balance exercise I have come up with.
I got them at the end of October. I still like riding them better than anything else I've had, but if given the choice, I always opt for outside - whether it's XC skiing or studded mountain biking. I do love them, but I have to confess, what might be even more motivational is I started creating DVD's with music video's on them and watch them while riding. That makes the time go by much faster. But still, these have the best feel of anything else I've ridden period.
You mean, you couldn't get so you could ride them? I guess the key is to just go for it. Don't be afraid to fall off, keep pedaling till you do fall off, but most of all, you really have to keep your upper body still it seems. Even a little motion like shifting gears can throw you off. And the number 1 thing is to have something to hold on to and just keep practicing while holding on, then let go a little, if you teeter, grab back on, but try to keep pedaling. You need speed to stay up.
hey! you should sell all that crap you find boring and buy ME a set of e-motion rollers. jesus.
mcmopeypeepants 1 month ago
Wow I can't believe I watched that whole video thinking he was gana fall and he never did Wtf? How boring that's time of my life ill never get back
Nikkiv4u 2 months ago
Is it possible to sprint really hard on these roller? Elite also produce a set of e-motion rollers (without the rear wheel bumpers). The video for them demonstrates a very weak/wimpy looking sprint.
rikoshea5234 3 months ago
@rikoshea5234 I don't think you'll fall off, but your back tire will probably slip/lose traction and be really annoying. Also, if you have your front wheel positioned slightly behind (like fractions of an inch) behind the front roller and if you put a ton of weight on your front bars, your wheel could slide off the back off the front roller, maybe not all the way off the back because of the safety bar, but ... the big problem is loosing traction on the rear wheel.
bradtube1 3 months ago
how much equipment do you have in that house...
MissyBelleSYD 8 months ago
Hey, r.e tyres and noise, you know you're supposed to use special roller tyres, right? :)
NeilPiersRobinson 8 months ago in playlist Bike related
Thanks for the video. I used to own a Kurt Kinetc trainer which I used 3 or 4 times... and sold. You saved me from buying another piece of overpriced junk.
willi234 1 year ago
Great video infotainment! I got rollers to train for an upcoming ride and had to curb a shopaholic urge to get e-motion rollers after watching your video! Luckily a financial reality check helped dampen my enthusiasm, plus some further research. But I mention your video in my cycling club's blog so I thought I'd write to say hi and tell you to check out the Beach Cities Cycling Club blog if you'd like to see the link to your video. Happy riding!
willing2live 1 year ago
man you do like to excorsise dont you...very good my man..very good indeed
BANGERS68 1 year ago
that looks awesome, thanks for uploading, very informative
ichibanhahn 1 year ago
Hi Brad,
I am considering laying out for these but they're alot of money. I currently have a set of roller with a mag resistance unit that I'm very comforable with but I can't really realistically mimic the standing climbing position. Is there enough resistance with the E-Motion rollers to get a good standing climbing workout ? I saw the one clip of you standing at max resistance. Boy did your bike look like it was flexing alot....
JoeOxfordCT 1 year ago
@JoeOxfordCT If I put the resistance up high and stand, the rear wheel slips so when I stand, I need to have the resistance fairly low. I don't know if newer or stickier tires would help this or not.
bradtube1 1 year ago
@bradtube1 - Well that sounds to me like a lot of resistance combined with maybe having your center of gravity too far forward which is causing the rear wheel to slip.... yes, no ?
Also, it's now been a year since you posted up this video. What are your feelings now about the E-Motions ? Pros, Cons, what you would change if you could, etc.
Thanks by the way, great video !
JoeOxfordCT 1 year ago
@JoeOxfordCT well... not even a lot of resistance makes them slip. yes, you can stand with your weight less forward, but it doesn't feel natural. Maybe you could elevate the front wheel slightly and stand and not slip. my thoughts? well, I wish I could use my mountain bike on them but the wheelbase is too long. i really had fun on them initially, just trying to balance and stuff, but once you get comfortable on them, they are every bit as boring as any other trainer.
bradtube1 1 year ago
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@bradtube1 "... they are every bit as boring as any other trainer."
This is my other thought....no matter how hot these are as a trainer, they are still a trainer. For $850 I could but alot more winter clothes & fenders and ride outside more this coming winter and just use my existing rollers when conditions absolutely make cycling impossible.
JoeOxfordCT 1 year ago
@JoeOxfordCT Lemond has a pretty cool new trainer out - you remove your rear wheel and put the bike on a simulated rear wheel, supposed to feel just like road biking. maybe not the challenge of rollers, but ... interesting little machine.
bradtube1 1 year ago
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DONT READ THIS. YOU WILL GET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR%uFEFF LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE. HOWEVER IF YOU DONT POST THIS COMMENT TO AT LEAST 3 VIDEOS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS. NOW UV STARTED READIN DIS DUNT STOP THIS IS SO SCARY. SEND THIS OVER TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN UR DONE PRESS F6 AND UR CRUSHES NAME WILL APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS. THIS IS SO SCARY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS
MrDarthvader011 1 year ago
Ride/run outside? I guess its good for training.
doobaas 1 year ago
Ride/run outside?
doobaas 1 year ago
good honest unbiased review. thanks
Adonisd1956 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure the issue with this roller set picking up tire rubber has to do with the small diameter drum they used for the front tire. This causes a high-flex area in the contact patch. Many other rollers will use larger-diam drums up front to improve this, or get a really slick tire that you can get to a higher pressure. After you've plunked down $800 for this rig, you can afford a spare front wheelset eh?
Dominipater 1 year ago
Nice, but how much did replacing that window you flew through cost? :)
My alternative was to simply move my speedometer sensor to the rear wheel, and use a $180 (US) trainer. Keeps me going.
keinjava 1 year ago
i like the TACX better en he is much cheeper
martjeswartje 2 years ago
I will try to biuld my own one. to see if i can spend les then 700. looks like some fun xD
furiajose 2 years ago
Hey Y O U have too much time on your hands
it seems that you get tired of things very quickly and have money to burn.
RRED2 2 years ago 8
Wow...$800 American!
I guess poor people don`t get to keep in shape.
dasfx 2 years ago 3
yea try just normal rollers they are even harder but still fun. the sound from it is not that bad, fun to see how loud it can get.
kevinpt3 2 years ago
It's strange that mountain bike tires will wear so much faster on a smooth roller but not on the rough terrain.
spitgalore 2 years ago
looks like youll get through some tyres with that thing.you only used it for a few seconds and all the rubber left on the rollers.
liecron 2 years ago
this is a nice product but they need to come down in price.
i dont know if i would buy this when i can buy a regular roller for 200 dollars
p8ntballer47 2 years ago
You talked about the regular trainers being noisy , but this seems noisy as well... even with different tires.
Bio4ce1 2 years ago
Thanks for the review! Can you tell us a little bit about tire wear and tear after a year of usage...similar to road riding?
VincentMorinDOTcom 2 years ago
I really don't know. I have a cyclocross bike and do 100% of my outdoor riding on it with cyclocross tires on it. On the trainer, I put on road tires. In two years of trainer riding (not really all that much riding), these tires have become quite shiny and perfectly smooth - no tread left at all. So - I do think they wear out your tires, but if you had a set you only used on the trainer, like I do, you'll get at least a couple years out of them.
bradtube1 2 years ago
Great! Thanks for the fast response! I think I'm going to pull the trigger on one of those...Could be practical even in the summer on rainy days! Thanks again!
VincentMorinDOTcom 2 years ago
Hi. Can I ask - do you know if you can use a mountain bike tyre on rollers?
gravitygrabber 2 years ago
yes but it will make alot of noise
turn1210 2 years ago
@gravitygrabber change your tires to smooth rolling ones.
andtvergara 2 years ago
Yes you can, I do it, but you need change your wheels or it will eat them as well in few time, just put ones for road
baqillarlz 1 year ago
Great review. I've been looking at these rollers for about a week now, and your video, even more so than anything else I've seen, has convinced me this is what I want. I am a MTN bike racer here in Wisconsin, but have a cross bike that I use like a road bike most the summer. I remember seeing on the company website that most mountain bikes would not work due to the wheel span. Anyway, Thanks for such a great review...No more spin class for me!
Imusthavebeendrunk 3 years ago 3
Cool! I still love them and they're still working perfectly. I too am using my cyclocross bike with road tires on it. I found boredom to be the biggest issue and either creating music videos or just youtube playlists of music videos helps a lot. I have another video on those. Good luck racing!
bradtube1 3 years ago
You should be on commission. I was reviewing whether to buy a staionary bike, trainer or rollers and you convinced me to fork out the extra dosh for an e-motion and I'm glad I did.
Tell me, can you use your new trainer tires (assuming you bought some) on the road or do you swap them?
me1sterbond 3 years ago
I know - I should get a commission but I don't! :-(
Haven't bought new tires.
I ride my mountain bike 99.9% of the time outdoors, put cyclocross tires on my cyclocross bike for the summer and then never ride it, then put the road tires back on for the winter when I ride the rollers. My road tires are still sort of loud and they're getting real shiny/completely smooth.
I started making YouTube Playlists and watch music vids with a cable from my PC to TV. Helps with the boredom.
bradtube1 3 years ago
This is the most useful video I've ever seen on YouTube. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I think you've convinced me to get this. I wish it wasn't so expensive!
tfisher 3 years ago
awesome review, thanks so much for taking the time to do this!
kdburton101 3 years ago
need more air in the tires or less meat in the belly.
lesmcluffalot 3 years ago
great review. thanks for the time and effort.
two40 3 years ago
Pump up your tires.
pcduck7 3 years ago 3
I just bought the e-motion rollers about two weeks ago and I agree with Brad. These are the best rollers I have ever used. They are made extremely well. If you can swing the cost, you won't be disappointed.
CummingsChris 3 years ago
Brad, first off great review, I have a few questions.
I'm thinking about taking the plunge and getting either a high quality trainer or the E-motion rollers. My primary concern is tire wear (I'll ONLY be riding my road bike on the rollers). Have you noticed premature wearing on your tires?
having a spare wheelset is not an option since I want to train with power and I use a PowerTap wheelset (and can't afford to throw down another grand for a training Powertap)
gimplar 3 years ago
Thanks! The actual manufacturer of the rollers watched this video and recommended using:
Performance Forte' Pro DC 700x23c
tires. Someone else recommended using:
Continental Ultra Sport Home Trainer Clincher
I'm not sure which I'm going to try, but I'm going to try one. I don't have a road bike but do have road and cross wheels and ride the cross wheels/tires pretty much 100% of the time outdoors, so if the Conti's are dedicated indoor tires, that doesn't bother me.
bradtube1 3 years ago
Thanks Brad
me1sterbond 3 years ago
Brad, not sure if you know or not, but you need to get the right tires for these machines if not you'll go through tires like crazy.
I use the Continental Ultra Sport Home Trainer Clincher tires..they work great and don't make a lot of noise. Their good for 10 years.
alexsdl 3 years ago
The actual manufacturer contacted me and told me they thought my tires were making a lot of noise and recommended some tires too. Some people thought I was using cyclocross tires, which I was NOT. Thanks for the recommendation! I will definitely switch to those tires... Indoor riding season's coming right up. :-(
bradtube1 3 years ago
I love cycling. It's the only sport I really fell in love with. I tried boxing, marathons, baseball, speed running, swimming. I never liked any of them as much as cycling.
My dream is to make it to the 2012 UK Olympics.
bully129 3 years ago 7
great review. tks
luiscabrera10 3 years ago
thats kermit!
passingout79 3 years ago 3
Fantastic video review, very helpful to me and thank you very much.
parabla 3 years ago
Thanks for the excellent review!
deemstyle 3 years ago
LOL it's like a Gym!!
dahgutone 3 years ago
Great review! Totally illustrates my problem (though I never actually *bought* all the junk you've apparently compiled - Gazelle - hilarious).
anthonyandjennifer 3 years ago
LOL - I know... I really need to get rid of everything except the rollers and the Total Gym (which I only use for stretching).
bradtube1 3 years ago
Had a Total Gym. How can you argue w/ a Texas Ranger? If he says, "buy it", well- you buy it.
anthonyandjennifer 3 years ago
Very cool Dude! Now I want one.
choxie4me 3 years ago
A+ Review! Thanks for making such a great video! I just got into biking and I've been looking for a good indoor trainer to use for rainy days and during winter...this looks like the ticket! I was planning on an indoor trainer until I found out about rollers and your review put me over the edge.
orionmods 3 years ago
This is a very well done and accurate review of the e-motion rollers. I use them with my PowerCranks and it is the ultimate unconscious pedal stroke, core balance exercise I have come up with.
Joe
cardiosystems 3 years ago
Brad
How long have you had the trainer? Has your initial enthusiam worn off or would you still buy?
Billcycle 3 years ago
I got them at the end of October. I still like riding them better than anything else I've had, but if given the choice, I always opt for outside - whether it's XC skiing or studded mountain biking. I do love them, but I have to confess, what might be even more motivational is I started creating DVD's with music video's on them and watch them while riding. That makes the time go by much faster. But still, these have the best feel of anything else I've ridden period.
bradtube1 3 years ago
I could never get roller to work for me are there any tipps?
glooer 3 years ago
You mean, you couldn't get so you could ride them? I guess the key is to just go for it. Don't be afraid to fall off, keep pedaling till you do fall off, but most of all, you really have to keep your upper body still it seems. Even a little motion like shifting gears can throw you off. And the number 1 thing is to have something to hold on to and just keep practicing while holding on, then let go a little, if you teeter, grab back on, but try to keep pedaling. You need speed to stay up.
bradtube1 3 years ago
Thanks man
glooer 3 years ago
LoL I like the comments.
glooer 3 years ago
Brad,
Thanks for posting this-we'd never seriously considered rollers but have been convinced to give them a try when we next update equipment.
Scott
stp479 4 years ago