I worked in a body shop many years ago. Only thing they would let me paint was farmers tractors (that John Deer paint was very forgiving). Tried to paint a few cars, never turned out very well. If there's one thing I learned it was if it's something you care about, leave the final painting to the professionals. Like you said Jeff, there is A LOT that goes into a good paint job. Equipment, materials, and TONS of experience. Not to discourage anyone from trying it, but know there is a lot to it
I painted a 1987 iroc a few years ago and moved it to the side of the shop intending to cut and buff the next day. The owner came by after I had gone for the day and installed his new car cover. The next afternoon I found the car with the cover stuck in the clear all over. Literally had to rip the cover from the car. Had to completely strip to bare metal and start over. One terrible mess.
I had a gold top on a guitar on the bench ready tor the sand and polish. I grabbed my overhead light to adjust it and the base of the bulb blew out and sent a burning ember down onto the guitar that burned through the paint into the wood in a split second.
My worst paint screw up is probably going to be a mix of all the responses you got LOL Luckily we got a paint shop not for from our door where you can rent a pro paint booth. I hear those guys laughing already hahaha...
i just got done painting the hood and right fender on a 2011 lincoln navigator last week a parts runner we have came back in the both and wanted to fill how smooth the clear on the hood was and left a hand in my clear.
Hey Jeff a friend of mine his dad painted a car with gloss house paint and thined it out with petrol LOL we all shook our heads but dam it came out pretty good. But i think my worst paint miss hap was not on a car but a job i painted at work doing top coat, i walked away for a minut came back and picked up an undercoat gun. Lesson learnt 1 gun around when top coating.
OH NO OH NO OH NO! i went over and checked out rayray, i worked for a guy like that for 4 days. can't believe i stayed that long.he's gonna do it his way,and nobody is gonna tell him otherwise. (the guy i worked 4days for was 63yrs old)he loved how MY work came out but said he wanted to do it his way.
I once sprayed a toyota Hilux in a field with a 10 mph wind blowing side on to the truck . The paint was a very cheap synthetic, like house gloss .The up wind side came out good !!!!,the paint was blown onto the panels . Down wind was a nightmare I ended up holding the gun about 3 inches from the tin, but could not get the paint on wet .well not on the truck me I was covered. So I had gloss with bits of nature in one side and dry matt on the other try and flat and buff synthetic .
My buddies dad had a body shop we haung at in the 70s. Well his dad did a nice black enamel paint job on a 69 chevell. That night there was a fierce thunder and lightening rain storm. Next morning we found the shops german shepard guard dog had freaked out about the storm and tap danced all over that car,tried to get on top of the freshly painted car. So the car was coverd with dog hair,claw marks ,gouges, smears from the dog floping around trying to get on and stay on top. Wish I had pics.
question re guns , i believe Binks and DeVilbis are the roles royce of the gun world my father uses star 770 guns for furniture and his opinion is that the 770 was a good copy of the DeVilbis gun 10/15 years ago but today are comparable , just wanted to know your/youtubes opinion ?
First time painting was in 2010 all summer to november, thats including body work, it was one problem to another. first time i sprayed i ended up getting my freakin shirt on the side of the bed and then i said to my self"shit better not do that again." well i happened again.. same day i had to i ran out of base finishing up hood the and had a small primer mark on the middle of the hood. then the goddamn paint place gave me the wrong color when i redid the side bed and hood.
@Bam6961 then i drop one fender on the side and made this huge chip/crack. then i though i could fix the shirt problem as if it was rattle can paint dont know what i was thinking but i taped an area off and then sprayed over it creating a huge tape line. i was thinking i could blend it like rattle can. but in the end after paint the truck three times i ended up learning so much more. then when i was buffing it i caught an edge burning it to the primer. didn't fix thatjust butbase over it.can'tel
... that a lot of moisture mixed in the paint as it was sprayed causing white stripes all over. When I repainted it, I did it in direct sunlight, so the panels were probably over 120 degrees. The lacquer turned to white dust the instant it touched the panels. I waited until later to finally finish the car in the shade. When I see see someone trying to paint their car outside in the sun especially, I just have to laugh to myself because they'll find out themselves very quick that it wont work.
I had the dry chem. fire extingisher system serbiced in mr spraybooth...the guy screwed it up and a day latter -in the middle of a paint kob it dischargered.....150 lbs of powder on the second coat ...took three days to fix that mess..life goes on..like Ray's deal..20 years latter I actually see the humor in the event
@jamesfreddys I've seen you paint...you could do candy....expensive.I mopped the car down with thinner -resanded-remask-repainted.after 5hrs cleaning the booth and replacing arrestors and intake filters.I met the delivery time so the customer never knew....afew bucks and a lot of labor..frudtrating but,,what the hell..nobody got hurt.so we laugh now
Yea, painting a car is a lot harder than people think. Everything has to be perfect: correct temperature and corresponding reducer speed, paint mixture, spray psi, etc... Some of my screw ups was when I 1st sprayed my car with lacquer in my backyard. I worked all day prepping it and the sun started to go down, but I was renting the compressor, so I had to get it done. I was spraying in the dark using a floodlight. i finished, but the next day i could see that the paint "blushed", meaning ...
Lots of good info Jeff you explain things so well. Plus you always throw in a little tidbit as to why things happen. We alway's learn way more from our screw ups. Thank You Sir!!
we all learn from others mistakes (hopefully). sorry for the bad experience ray but as jeff said you are out there getting after it. Keep on keeping on.
@michaelf48 Thanks man, you're right - hopefully someone will see that and learn not to do it that way lol. thanks for the encouragement too. great idea by Jeff to share other paint problems, makes you feel a lot better as it puts it all into perspective. thanks!!
where can I get a good use air compressor and painting tools, i want to painting in my garage. you do a great job explaning yourself, watched alot of your videos and I think I'm ready to start working on my car. lol
one of my early screw ups, i did a nice respray on my 79 transam, painted the spoiler and wheel flairs seperate, I put WAY to much flex additive to the base coat and then piled on the clear, 3 days later they were still soft and sticky, thought i was screwed, than i had an idea, i put the wheel flairs and spoiler end pieces in the oven at about 175 degs for about an hour, they came out PERFECT looked like glass, so than i put the rest of the spoiler in . thankfully all done before folks got home
can we see the rays video? also, what's gregs vw? what's his channel? the worse thing that happen to me is I was using rattle cans on my car, just doing basic flat black painting my window moldings and what not, I mask up everything as good as possible, I end up paint my whole window black, molding, paint, and window flat freaking black..took a while getting everything corrected
@Jx1x3 ouch, that must have been a painstaking process cleaning all that up! I think Jeff replied with a link, but you should be able to click on my name here, it'll be the 2 most recent vids on there. warning - not for the faint hearted lol
ok here is one. my compressor quit halfway through a paint job....but myworst is I was almost done with a clearcoat and it was probably the best i had done. it was laying down like glass when i kinked my hose and it squarted out on the car i was so pissed because of how nice it was looking and thinking i could brag on that paint job.......nope.........{chris}
@nova68ss1 I run low pressure through my hose to the gun and it is susceptible loosing pressure if you step on it. I've knelt on it getting down to get the side and squirted clear droplets out onto the car.
The first time ever painting a car was a truck with a 6 inch lift.. was just finishing putting the last coat of clear on, and was using a flimsy bucket to paint the hood..... needless to say I fell into the hood.
The hood had about 25 hours of airbrushing a giant skull with a tribal design around it.. and the paintjob was HOK cobalt blue candy.. I ended up breaking alot of shit that day. >.<
@MultiShadow1969 lol. shit id luv 2 c that. im jus starting 2 get back into this kinda work. it aint ez. i always hav a hard time holding the spray gun, i get tired fast. lol
ray should hav sprayed that car in parts, b easier
@MultiShadow1969 OMG, that sounds horrible!!! the falling on the hood bit - the airbrushing must have been aweomse and with HOK you probably had an amazing look to it. Not a cheap thing to happen, what did you end up doing?
@rayray123ray69.. I redid the hood.. at least it was faster the second time :P.. I then color matched it to the fenders by checking under the masking on both sides after each coat.. and misting it in just right. It came out pretty good for a first time deal.
Was just one of the many hard lessons with that first paint job.. especially how hard candy paint is to deal with. Bleeding through artwork, splotching or streaking if not laid down just right.. lol good times ;)
The worse paint screw up I had as a young fellow was...I was painted a 63 nova in my shop. It was cold weather and I had used one of those torpedo oil heaters to warm the building..I turned the heater off to do the painting. When I mixed the paint I forgot to add the fish eye elliminator to the paint.. I painted the car and the whole beautiful candy apple red paint job was fish eyed to the point I had to wash it off with laquer thinner and start over. What a nightmare that was. Lesson learned!
I was laying the last coat of Guards Red on a 27 Model T Coupe and I used to wet the floor. The hose got stuck on something and I was tired or whatever and gave it a yank, layed water all up the pass door and cowl...pissed I was!
@HappyScrappy47 Our old tech rep was helping a painter in another shop shoot a complete WHITE mustang . They both had a side the & tech rep slides the hose like your saying and splashes dirty floor water all over the white in the final pass of clear. The Painter was going down his side and didn't even know it till the end.
gotta find his vid, in 1989 I painted my bronco in a self serve car wash bay at 3 am, just as I was pulling the paper off I had someone pull into the bay next to me and sprays his car down, water spots all over, made a great paint both up till then,
I worked in a body shop many years ago. Only thing they would let me paint was farmers tractors (that John Deer paint was very forgiving). Tried to paint a few cars, never turned out very well. If there's one thing I learned it was if it's something you care about, leave the final painting to the professionals. Like you said Jeff, there is A LOT that goes into a good paint job. Equipment, materials, and TONS of experience. Not to discourage anyone from trying it, but know there is a lot to it
marcellinasfigaro 1 month ago
I painted a 1987 iroc a few years ago and moved it to the side of the shop intending to cut and buff the next day. The owner came by after I had gone for the day and installed his new car cover. The next afternoon I found the car with the cover stuck in the clear all over. Literally had to rip the cover from the car. Had to completely strip to bare metal and start over. One terrible mess.
sunshinecustoms 1 month ago
Dang and double dang !!!!!. Why didn't I think of that ???.
redneckracing01 1 month ago
I had a gold top on a guitar on the bench ready tor the sand and polish. I grabbed my overhead light to adjust it and the base of the bulb blew out and sent a burning ember down onto the guitar that burned through the paint into the wood in a split second.
Tonefiend 1 month ago
My worst paint screw up is probably going to be a mix of all the responses you got LOL Luckily we got a paint shop not for from our door where you can rent a pro paint booth. I hear those guys laughing already hahaha...
BelgianMuscle 1 month ago
i just got done painting the hood and right fender on a 2011 lincoln navigator last week a parts runner we have came back in the both and wanted to fill how smooth the clear on the hood was and left a hand in my clear.
ktpuawpainter 1 month ago
@ktpuawpainter they have to touch it they don't think it's real.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
Hey Jeff a friend of mine his dad painted a car with gloss house paint and thined it out with petrol LOL we all shook our heads but dam it came out pretty good. But i think my worst paint miss hap was not on a car but a job i painted at work doing top coat, i walked away for a minut came back and picked up an undercoat gun. Lesson learnt 1 gun around when top coating.
r1son 1 month ago
@r1son I always pull the fan down to round turn my pressure down to do a small area then forget to set it back and start shooting the main panel.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
OH NO OH NO OH NO! i went over and checked out rayray, i worked for a guy like that for 4 days. can't believe i stayed that long.he's gonna do it his way,and nobody is gonna tell him otherwise. (the guy i worked 4days for was 63yrs old)he loved how MY work came out but said he wanted to do it his way.
HURLBUT6805 1 month ago
I once sprayed a toyota Hilux in a field with a 10 mph wind blowing side on to the truck . The paint was a very cheap synthetic, like house gloss .The up wind side came out good !!!!,the paint was blown onto the panels . Down wind was a nightmare I ended up holding the gun about 3 inches from the tin, but could not get the paint on wet .well not on the truck me I was covered. So I had gloss with bits of nature in one side and dry matt on the other try and flat and buff synthetic .
redneckracing01 1 month ago
@redneckracing01 I thought you could have sprayed the one side then pulled the truck around and did the other, just kidding.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
I wonder if anyone has a story about one of those Carcoon spray booths deflating in the middle of a paint job.
2435rats 1 month ago
@2435rats I asked that too.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
Good Video Jeff, Thanks for sharing
tomswonderfulworld 1 month ago
Everyone should watch this before their first paint job! Good one Jeff.
satajet883 1 month ago
@satajet883 whoa hold on a minute where's your story?
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@jamesfreddys lol, It's in tonight's video.
satajet883 1 month ago
@satajet883 agreed!!!
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
i painted a car with house paint
Ls3guy 1 month ago
@Ls3guy.. I think we have a new worst story >.<
MultiShadow1969 1 month ago
@Ls3guy me too, I used a sponge roller to get that mirror finish or so I thought.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@Ls3guy how did that turn out? would be nice to see a pic :)
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
@rayray123ray69 it truned out ok only if i took pics
Ls3guy 1 month ago
My buddies dad had a body shop we haung at in the 70s. Well his dad did a nice black enamel paint job on a 69 chevell. That night there was a fierce thunder and lightening rain storm. Next morning we found the shops german shepard guard dog had freaked out about the storm and tap danced all over that car,tried to get on top of the freshly painted car. So the car was coverd with dog hair,claw marks ,gouges, smears from the dog floping around trying to get on and stay on top. Wish I had pics.
cigarcaptain 1 month ago
@cigarcaptain I don't even want to know what happened to the car or the dog, that one sucks.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@cigarcaptain wow! what are the chances of the happening! bet your dad had the shock of his life in the morning
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
question re guns , i believe Binks and DeVilbis are the roles royce of the gun world my father uses star 770 guns for furniture and his opinion is that the 770 was a good copy of the DeVilbis gun 10/15 years ago but today are comparable , just wanted to know your/youtubes opinion ?
vcval 1 month ago
@vcval Most my experince is with Sata and Iwata can't help you there.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
First time painting was in 2010 all summer to november, thats including body work, it was one problem to another. first time i sprayed i ended up getting my freakin shirt on the side of the bed and then i said to my self"shit better not do that again." well i happened again.. same day i had to i ran out of base finishing up hood the and had a small primer mark on the middle of the hood. then the goddamn paint place gave me the wrong color when i redid the side bed and hood.
Bam6961 1 month ago
@Bam6961 I've got paint suits in clear more than once you got to love that.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@jamesfreddys yeah and the pro's told me to put tape around my body/shirt so it won't hang. works so well.
Bam6961 1 month ago
@Bam6961 then i drop one fender on the side and made this huge chip/crack. then i though i could fix the shirt problem as if it was rattle can paint dont know what i was thinking but i taped an area off and then sprayed over it creating a huge tape line. i was thinking i could blend it like rattle can. but in the end after paint the truck three times i ended up learning so much more. then when i was buffing it i caught an edge burning it to the primer. didn't fix thatjust butbase over it.can'tel
Bam6961 1 month ago
... that a lot of moisture mixed in the paint as it was sprayed causing white stripes all over. When I repainted it, I did it in direct sunlight, so the panels were probably over 120 degrees. The lacquer turned to white dust the instant it touched the panels. I waited until later to finally finish the car in the shade. When I see see someone trying to paint their car outside in the sun especially, I just have to laugh to myself because they'll find out themselves very quick that it wont work.
CoolasIce2 1 month ago
@CoolasIce2 Good one I love it.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
I had the dry chem. fire extingisher system serbiced in mr spraybooth...the guy screwed it up and a day latter -in the middle of a paint kob it dischargered.....150 lbs of powder on the second coat ...took three days to fix that mess..life goes on..like Ray's deal..20 years latter I actually see the humor in the event
ted850760 1 month ago
@ted850760 Slowsrt just told a story same thing, sounds expensive.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@jamesfreddys I've seen you paint...you could do candy....expensive.I mopped the car down with thinner -resanded-remask-repainted.after 5hrs cleaning the booth and replacing arrestors and intake filters.I met the delivery time so the customer never knew....afew bucks and a lot of labor..frudtrating but,,what the hell..nobody got hurt.so we laugh now
ted850760 1 month ago
Yea, painting a car is a lot harder than people think. Everything has to be perfect: correct temperature and corresponding reducer speed, paint mixture, spray psi, etc... Some of my screw ups was when I 1st sprayed my car with lacquer in my backyard. I worked all day prepping it and the sun started to go down, but I was renting the compressor, so I had to get it done. I was spraying in the dark using a floodlight. i finished, but the next day i could see that the paint "blushed", meaning ...
CoolasIce2 1 month ago
Lots of good info Jeff you explain things so well. Plus you always throw in a little tidbit as to why things happen. We alway's learn way more from our screw ups. Thank You Sir!!
bobwoodkat 1 month ago
we all learn from others mistakes (hopefully). sorry for the bad experience ray but as jeff said you are out there getting after it. Keep on keeping on.
michaelf48 1 month ago
@michaelf48 Thanks man, you're right - hopefully someone will see that and learn not to do it that way lol. thanks for the encouragement too. great idea by Jeff to share other paint problems, makes you feel a lot better as it puts it all into perspective. thanks!!
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
This vid was a lot of good ole fashioned fun. Thnx so much.
JOHNDEEBANK 1 month ago
schuuuprint
wildeyednorthernboy 1 month ago
@wildeyednorthernboy Piece of the action.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
The worst I've ever done was wet sanding a single stage metallic. It went from metallic brown to gold.... in spots.
SpecialedSpellcaster 1 month ago
@SpecialedSpellcaster I've heard horror stories, bummer.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
where can I get a good use air compressor and painting tools, i want to painting in my garage. you do a great job explaning yourself, watched alot of your videos and I think I'm ready to start working on my car. lol
DjDano500 1 month ago
@DjDano500 I'm not sure about that one, Craigslist?
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
one of my early screw ups, i did a nice respray on my 79 transam, painted the spoiler and wheel flairs seperate, I put WAY to much flex additive to the base coat and then piled on the clear, 3 days later they were still soft and sticky, thought i was screwed, than i had an idea, i put the wheel flairs and spoiler end pieces in the oven at about 175 degs for about an hour, they came out PERFECT looked like glass, so than i put the rest of the spoiler in . thankfully all done before folks got home
harleyguyinmilw 1 month ago
@harleyguyinmilw Wonder how they held up?
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
can we see the rays video? also, what's gregs vw? what's his channel? the worse thing that happen to me is I was using rattle cans on my car, just doing basic flat black painting my window moldings and what not, I mask up everything as good as possible, I end up paint my whole window black, molding, paint, and window flat freaking black..took a while getting everything corrected
Jx1x3 1 month ago
@Jx1x3 Just happened to read your comment... check my vids from late oct. It's the good/bad/ugly of my painting education.
gregmporter 1 month ago
@Jx1x3 ~Gregmporter... 74 Karmin Ghia project
Thisoldcar 1 month ago
@Jx1x3 Just posted the link in the video description.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@Jx1x3 ouch, that must have been a painstaking process cleaning all that up! I think Jeff replied with a link, but you should be able to click on my name here, it'll be the 2 most recent vids on there. warning - not for the faint hearted lol
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
ok here is one. my compressor quit halfway through a paint job....but myworst is I was almost done with a clearcoat and it was probably the best i had done. it was laying down like glass when i kinked my hose and it squarted out on the car i was so pissed because of how nice it was looking and thinking i could brag on that paint job.......nope.........{chris}
nova68ss1 1 month ago
@nova68ss1 I run low pressure through my hose to the gun and it is susceptible loosing pressure if you step on it. I've knelt on it getting down to get the side and squirted clear droplets out onto the car.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@jamesfreddys I almost do this all the time
slowsrt 1 month ago
The first time ever painting a car was a truck with a 6 inch lift.. was just finishing putting the last coat of clear on, and was using a flimsy bucket to paint the hood..... needless to say I fell into the hood.
The hood had about 25 hours of airbrushing a giant skull with a tribal design around it.. and the paintjob was HOK cobalt blue candy.. I ended up breaking alot of shit that day. >.<
MultiShadow1969 1 month ago
@MultiShadow1969 lol. shit id luv 2 c that. im jus starting 2 get back into this kinda work. it aint ez. i always hav a hard time holding the spray gun, i get tired fast. lol
ray should hav sprayed that car in parts, b easier
ricerust 1 month ago
@ricerust ye you're right, i did think to do the front (fenders, hood, bumper) seperate to the back. Lesson learnt!
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
@rayray123ray69 dont giv up man, u got this
ricerust 1 month ago
@MultiShadow1969 That's the worst so far ooohhhh I feel that pain.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@MultiShadow1969 OMG, that sounds horrible!!! the falling on the hood bit - the airbrushing must have been aweomse and with HOK you probably had an amazing look to it. Not a cheap thing to happen, what did you end up doing?
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
@rayray123ray69.. I redid the hood.. at least it was faster the second time :P.. I then color matched it to the fenders by checking under the masking on both sides after each coat.. and misting it in just right. It came out pretty good for a first time deal.
Was just one of the many hard lessons with that first paint job.. especially how hard candy paint is to deal with. Bleeding through artwork, splotching or streaking if not laid down just right.. lol good times ;)
MultiShadow1969 1 month ago
The worse paint screw up I had as a young fellow was...I was painted a 63 nova in my shop. It was cold weather and I had used one of those torpedo oil heaters to warm the building..I turned the heater off to do the painting. When I mixed the paint I forgot to add the fish eye elliminator to the paint.. I painted the car and the whole beautiful candy apple red paint job was fish eyed to the point I had to wash it off with laquer thinner and start over. What a nightmare that was. Lesson learned!
ncautoman57 1 month ago
@ncautoman57 You started painting in the cold after that one,lol, that sucks.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
I was laying the last coat of Guards Red on a 27 Model T Coupe and I used to wet the floor. The hose got stuck on something and I was tired or whatever and gave it a yank, layed water all up the pass door and cowl...pissed I was!
HappyScrappy47 1 month ago
@HappyScrappy47 Our old tech rep was helping a painter in another shop shoot a complete WHITE mustang . They both had a side the & tech rep slides the hose like your saying and splashes dirty floor water all over the white in the final pass of clear. The Painter was going down his side and didn't even know it till the end.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
gotta find his vid, in 1989 I painted my bronco in a self serve car wash bay at 3 am, just as I was pulling the paper off I had someone pull into the bay next to me and sprays his car down, water spots all over, made a great paint both up till then,
mustie1 1 month ago
@mustie1 I posted the link in the video description. Sucks about the car wash I wonder if the guy knew what he was doing?
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
whats the link for ray? would like to see it
vhehn 1 month ago
@vhehn I posted the link in the video description.
jamesfreddys 1 month ago
@vhehn heya, you should be able to see my username now, it'll be the top 2 vids on the page. it is cringe-worthy!
rayray123ray69 1 month ago
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ncautoman57 1 month ago
Great idea about the worst ever screw-ups
speedy75602 1 month ago
i like youtube for tricks and tips but i am going to school for the learning part......{chris}
nova68ss1 1 month ago