@PrimordiumAlphaOE they take a sample of people of say 5000 and ask what they watch then they apply this to the nation. (very simple explanation...google it for a more indepth answer)
You are all stupid and give your real name and address when you purchase a television also. If you pay a tv license you're a mug since we're the only country in the world who does. bbc is shite
there are indeed devices that can pick up signals, there are detector vans. all TV's both receive and transmit it detects the signals if you are watching a live broadcast. ... im just saying, the tech has existed for many years. it is illegal not to pay a license, if you watch the BBC channels. and they can get police to get a warrant to access the property. it is a service, and they charge for that service, just like its against the law to get a dish to receive sky without paying.
@BurritoBazooka the thing is....in all the time the so called detection equipment has been said to be used.....the evidence from such a device has never been produced in court. What does this tell you?
@videogangstar That its just a guy in a transit van with a flask of coffee and a Twix. Even if they COULD tell you were watching Corrie in the back room its inadmissible.
@videogangstar When people talk about TV licensing, one of the most discussed subjects online are the inner workings of TV detector Vans and TVL’s TV detection gadgets - and whether they actually exist.
Keeping up the myth of TV Detection is of such importance to the BBC that it claims it would lose out on funding if people are given an insight into the method of TV Detection
@videogangstar There is no way they would be able to tell if you were recieving signal unless they walked into your house and switched on the tv. even then i do believe even if your arial was hooked up to your tv as long as it wasn't switched on then it would still be legal. I use video transmitters for my hobby and consider myself fairly knowledgable on the subject. I to dont watch tv and have been "harrased" by the tv licencing company.
Just listened to this and can confirm that the bbc do not pick up signals from your house,
this is because you have an ariel or dish which can only receive signals.
You would have to have an antenna fixed to your TV system for them to observe signals being transmitted. An antenna can both transmit and recieve signals ok.
I am a qualified Radio User for the Army so I am not shitting you.
If you have questions about any other subject let me know via rob1966@gmx.co.uk
WTF, now that's is interesting on what this person has said, because I may have an leaflet that says, you require a tv licence to even watch bbcIplayer, so, if what she said is true, then why would they lie about this?, has anyone else got this at all? about the bbciPlayer?
It's rubbished, this is why they want the switch over, but to be honest, it's just ballsing them up from people who generally have a tv, but no set top box or any form of access to tv channels.
To completely avoid breaking any TVL laws including new ones just buy a nice pc moniotor without a tv receiver to play consoles on, then they can't do anything at all period. ;)
@Riotmakertk TV licence is nothing to do with owning a tv........its watching live broadcasts. you can have 10 tv's if you wish....and you can watch i player without needing a licence.
(3)A person with a television receiver in his possession or under his control who—
(a)intends to install or use it in contravention of subsection (1), or
(b)knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use it in contravention of that subsection,
Seems mind scanner advanced technology is in use since they now know, although we haven't yet committed an offense by being in possession of a TV, it is our intention to install or know someone who will.
Maybe a PVR.... pause the TV for 20 seconds or so... the press play... TADA! you're not watching, "Live TV". BUT... BIG BUT! You need to get, in writing, their legal definition of "live broadcast" and "watching". On my PVR when I fast forward after pausing it... it will inform you when you have caught up by prompting you up in the corner "LIVE TV". At the end she did mention "receiving live broadcasts" so be careful. Appreciate the videos and information. Cheers
What you can do instead is remove your Virgin/Sky box, disconnect your aerial and download all your tv episodes from websites that record them for you. You CAN use BBC Iplayer/ITV Player to watch the repeats. You cannot watch live broadcasts in any form (on your mobile, PC, TV) to avoid a TV License. : Side note : If you buy a TV they will ask for your post code - this is to check if a TV license is present at the property. Places like Argos will/can refuse the sale if you do not provide one.
Bollocks...all you say is that it's a present for someone for their new flat or house and you don't know the postcode! A big electrical retailer refusing a sale??? NO CHANCE!
The detector units used to detect the signal given off by the RF tuner unit which was built into older TVs. This is what it would use to tune into the desired analogue channel you were watching. With the more modern TVs now being almost exclusively digital, and the digital switchover making analogue signals defunct, this is no longer possible.
Even if they were to detect this signal it may not mean you are watching/recording channels as they are broadcast, just that your TV was switched on.
They may be able to bounce a signal off your antenna, but that would only show you have an antenna that's tuned for TV reception.
Most TV's are in a faraday-cage so no signal should be transmitted bar what comes out of the screen. Note most TV are now digital so the old methods to controlling the cathode are gone, along with the radiation/induction waves.
That woman on the phone is bluffing. They can't tell if you are watching the tv unless they can see it physically! Anyhow, it's irrelevant whether the detection technology the BBC/TVL claims to have actually works. Evidence cannot be heard in a court of law unless it is available to both the prosecution and the defense, and since TV Licensing and the BBC refuse to disclose the technology they use, gathered results cannot be admitted as evidence. Awesome!
Wouldn't a detector van be about as intrusive as a using binoculars to see into your house or equipment to eaves drop on your conversations and therefore illegal?
so lets get this straight, u can be sat there in your house, they can come in while your watching eastenders (recorded) and they cant say a damn thing because its not a live broadcast. if they caught u watching bbc 1 or any of the bbc channels live they can fine u, is this correct?
@1RebelDog1 No they can't come in UNLESS you invite them. The response to your comment is wrong by videogangstar. TVL have no right to enter your home without a search warrant that they are very unlikey to get.
@1RebelDog1 technically I think they can claim against you if you have the equipment for receiving live transmissions (which is what the licence is for, not for owning a tv), but even they'll say you can just stick a bit of tape over the arial socket or plug it into something which doesn't receive a signal and you're in the cleaer
@1RebelDog1 No, Not correct, part 4 of the communications act 2003 states if you 'install or use' a television receiver you need to be covered by a TV license, the key wording there is 'install OR' so if you have a TV, you need a licence whether you watch live broadcasts or not.
@crazycranners this ISNT true, u can have a tv as long as its not plugged in to tv reciving hardware, like an ariel or a sky box, ive phoned up and asked them, i also told them that i have removed right of access over my land and if they come onto my property they are subject to a £1000 right of access fee. lets see if they call round now :)
everyone should call to cancel or withdraw, then set a appointment for them to check at the same exact time then give no other options to check and leave it up to them. wonder what would happen?
I presume the TV licence/tax is to fund the BBC, if so why can't you just not have the BBC and instead just have the other channels (the channels paid for through adverts and/or subscriptions) ?
I imagine that some sort of detector technology could exist, but I imagine it's cost would far out weight the kind of money it would help them to collect, it has to be a fear tactic
Lies and damn lies, they cannot use electronic equipment to snoop on you in the privacy of your own home by law. That is why they keep sending people to knock on your door. If they could legally use detection equipment, they would never need to knock on anyones door. And they have no legal right of entry to your home either, they can only enter if you are silly enough to invite them in.
@hearts76100 you can detect the electromagnetic magnet field broadcast from the transmitter, you can detect disruption in the field caused by TV receivers.
Wow, I never have even heard of a license to watch a broadcast... ignorant American I guess. It just sounds really far-fetched that they would try to charge you for sending frequencies through your neighborhood.
There ARE ways of detecting the presence & operation of a TV set, but it is not conclusive proof of you breaking the law(act?). If you are using it as a monitor for a VCR or video gaming, NOT illegal in any way. The reason detectors are seldom used is that newer TVs have such good screening & such a low local oscillator level they're pretty useless at finding anything.
@Biggerbadwolf My brother explained this to me recently (he's a real life boffin) & you're right. the old CRT TV's were detectable in the manner that it is in operation but not what you are watching or using it for. It could merely detect the mechanism was in use. The new flat screen TV's are as you said nigh on impossible to detect. They still have to enter your property to examine the set. This is where their authority crumbles as they have no right of access unless you invite them in.
I have to add, if you are using a CRT TV to play X-Box games and stuff, then from what she was saying is, that they would also be able to see what games you were playing, but she didn’t say that, she only said if you were watching live broadcasts.. pawned herself there.. Meh!
OK let me get this right you can have a TV in your property and not own a T.V License because it dosent receive live broadcast. This video has been most helpful, thanks !
Lets get it right, TV's don't broadcast a signal, They receive a signal, TV's aren't required to transmit a signal for any reason! Even if they could broadcast it wouldn't be possible for them to triangulate the signal!
@I4M4TR0LL TVs do emit a very low level signal called a local oscillator, this is what they look for. What we did once was build an oscillator on the same frequency (about 794Mhz). It ran off a 12v battery & we stashed it in a tree so it was difficult to find. The signal was much stronger than any L.O., so swamped the detectors. Caused a little bit of interference on my TV but that way I knew it was still working.
You could have also asked if these detector vans/hand held devices have ever been used as evidence in a court case. If not, why not? Also if these devices have been used to gain a search warrant... Good video, cheers.
@videogangstar Something the TVLA woman said about watching live broadcasts. How many programmes are actually screened live by the BBC? for eg broadcasting a football match as the game is being played in real time, that is the correct definition live TV.
IMO watching TV programmes on a PC after they were broadcast earlier is no different to watching an episode of Fools and Horses on TV that was filmed many years ago. IYSWIM.
No doubt the BBC have an excuse for this to keep people paying.
@cmadog i had a TV license b4 i cancelled, so they know who i am......it dont matter though....im not hiding away from the bullies.....they dont scare me :)
@cmadog Loved yr comment. I kept getting letters after i cancelled mine, addressed to the Occupier & them saying they were going to send someone round - they never did. Shame really I was quite looking forward to chatting to the SALESMAN - lol.... Peace :)
It used to be possible on older CRT based TVs to detect from a small distance away what was being shown on the TV, but on modern LCD/Plasmas, I dont think its been possible.
@666PCgamer ??? what are you talking about??? you can have a computer and a tv without a license!!!!! it should be called a "live tv signal receiver license". in other words .....you only need a tv license if you receive a live broadcast....you can log on I player and watch a program that was on earlier that day without having a license.
at 0.50 she says they can detect tv being broadcast from the property, since when do you broadcast tv?? the technology does not exist for the bbc to tell if u are RECEIVING a signal, she is telling you a pack of lies.
@therhythmicmenace They did transmit a signal! The oscillator that fed into the mixer used to down convert the signal re-radiated back out through the aerial.
It was easily filtered and band filtering is now mandatory because some TV's used to wreck reception to other TV's in the showrooms.
Ok lets just say, in a mad moment of fiction, that these detectors DO exist, how the HELL on gods green earth would they be able to detect 'live broadcasts' sent to a TV via a cable under the ground, which is how a lot of people receive their TV. How would they be able to 'detect' what's live and what's not? Wouldn't all TV sent via a 'detectable' signal be classed as live, whilever that signal was live? Capita & tech mix about as well as oil & water.
0:48 'They will be able to check if any t.v signals are being BROADCAST FROM the property' LOOOOL Now she is accusing you of running a pirate T.V station from your home ha ha.
A TV guy came round to my house once saying he had the right to enter the property to check I didn't have a tv set. I asked if he had a warrant.. he didn't so i said good day and went to close the door. He stuck his foot in the door and tried to force his way in, I said you try that again and I will see it as an attack within my property and respond defensively, after all I still haven't seen any id and you could be anyone. He said he would return with the police, I said ok, he never did.
Another thing. If you do some real research about withdrawing their implied right of access you will clearly see on YouTube that their goons say "oh, I didn't realise you have withdrawn the right of implied access'. The golden rule with TVL is NEVER contact them for ANY reason. My advice is the best you any any viewer of this video will ever get.
Karen lied to you on numerous ocassions. Only after the 6 minute mark did she tell thre truth about licensing requirements. EVERYTHNG she said about van and handheld detectors was LIES. Get my comment to the top because it is factual. TVL licence CANNOT detect signals coming INTO or OUT of a television. FACT.
lol TV are receivers not broadcasters. Would love to know how the BBC actually can prove that a signal is received by your TV. Secondly, if they DO have this technology they are "wire-tapping" your personal property and they will need a warrant to achieve that. Little wonder the BBC has refused Freedom Of Information requests regarding how they achieve this!
reception detecting VHF & UHF is impossible to detect. IMPOSSIBLE. But the new digital TV I've heard it had hardware/software. get an older model TV if that the case.
A point that is seldom mentioned about detection equipment is that its use has to be authorised. You can't just pick up an electronic surveillance device and go off and use it. The authorisation is for a limited time, so would need renewing.
It is just not worth the hassle to deploy detection equipment. Eyes and ears are the detection devices that will be used to detect your TV set.
On another note and a somewhat obvious one. If you subscribe to TV via Virgin, Sky or any other service provider, your details are on record as having TV reception equipment. Even having just a broadband internet connection CAN get you prosecuted if you visit BBC's iPlayer website, a cookie with your registered IP address is received by your service provider which can be used as evidence of watching 'streamed' TV on your computer, but only if the TVL ask for it.
@0MadeInEngland1 did you listen to what the TVL said in this video? you can watch i player or any transmission that is not live!!!!! so it dont matter if i got virgin subscription or watch i player. as long as its not live!!!!
Yes I did, but the BBC can prosecute if you watch BBC recorded 'streaming' as this still falls under the licence conditions, though they cannot prosecute for ITV streaming. I'm not in favour of the licence, I don't pay it nor ever will. I'm just like you in protest against the fee and therefore support everything you do. I'm just merely pointing out facts that people should be aware of so they themselves don't fall into the trap of being caught. It's best to be safe than sorry.
@0MadeInEngland1 not true....bbc recorded i player streaming can be watched, as it is not live broadcasting...also if you watch itv live broadcasts you still can be prosecuted.
Thank you for your support on this subject but you seem a little confused over the matter....ill try to break it down for you. any program you watch on your tv as its being broadcast live you need a license. you dont need a license for dvds ps3's xbox's or iplayer (if its yesterdays content) because this is not live!!!...
@videogangstar The TVL website states quite clearly that you can watch iplayers on any channel, as long as you don't watch live streaming. As soon as I realised this, I simply disconnected the coax, put my Virgin box in the cupboard, and plugged an HDMI lead into my pc. Saving a fortune now.
@0MadeInEngland1 enjoy your stay in jail you al-qaeda criminal scum the government is coming for you!!!! HOW DARE YOU NOT PAY THE MAFIA, HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TV's don't emit transmission signals. The woman on the phone is misinformed.
TV's are receivers, a static 50-200mv ultra-low current signal is however sent to the 'outside' antenna in order to energize it (ionize within an atmosphere) and thus magnetise the receptive signal from the transmission mast(s). The antenna itself is therefore 'live' but does NOT reveal what frequency(s) are being received. This does not form evidence of TV viewing misuse, coax near a mains socket can also energise it.
I say this to TVL:, if you got it, use it, instead of hounding poor souls night and day with your persistent door knocking goons, threat-o-gram letters, and waste of space billboard name and shame advertising. C'mon TVL, use your detection bullshit to detect us out, time to put up shut up. The game is up.
This is a really interesting video and I commend you for having the initiative and bravery to contact these cretins and challenge them on the detection van myth. The tone of her voice said it all I think when she answered, I could tell she was lying and just repeating what they have been told to say. The detection stuff just don't add up and make any sense to me. If they actually had such devices surely they would show them working instead of hiding them all secret.
Lol a TV receives signals it does not broadcast them! The signals are everywhere all the time, owning a TV makes no difference, TV signals are in my garden shed, my bladder and my dogs cock. The TVL rely on ignorance and fear, they have no detection machines.
At the 6 minute position in the video, TV Licensing's Karen says: "We are just following the law, and chasing people that are unlicensed".
Nowhere in the law on TV licensing is there a requirement to chase people that don't have a TV licence. Nowhere in the law on TV licensing does it say that the BBC should maximise its income from TV licences by "chasing" unlicensed people. This is entirely BBC/Capita/TV Licensing mindset.
@spudgun121 Well said spudgun. This is purely a money-making scam from an org that does everything it can to make money out of the gullible and poor, using the most vile methods that no company would ever legally get away with except for TVL.
i remember the late eighties, pirate radio days. the officers used an airwave scanner to find the transmitter. thought it could be similar, but tv's are receivers...
I think it's about time the "bbc licence detector van" is added in second position to UK's list of legendary hoaxes, in first position is the loch ness monster.
lol. TV Detector vans are in reality minibuses full of PEOPLE with clipboards.
Whilst the technology could feasibly exist to detect the signal "leakage" from a TV set at close range (ie. ON your property), the cost of actually employing such technology would mean that it would take thousands of fines to pay for such equipment and it would not be economically viable to put into place. I'm not aware of evidence obtained from TV detection technology EVER being used to bring about a conviction. ;)
Just to reiterate...DETECTOR VANS...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ;)
ISIGTUTEOT 5 days ago
If they cant detect who is watching tv, then how do they know how many viewers a program has?
PrimordiumAlphaOE 6 days ago
@PrimordiumAlphaOE they take a sample of people of say 5000 and ask what they watch then they apply this to the nation. (very simple explanation...google it for a more indepth answer)
videogangstar 6 days ago 2
@videogangstar I didn't realise. Cant believe its an estimate. thanks for all the information.
PrimordiumAlphaOE 5 days ago
You are all stupid and give your real name and address when you purchase a television also. If you pay a tv license you're a mug since we're the only country in the world who does. bbc is shite
AnonHancock 1 week ago
there are indeed devices that can pick up signals, there are detector vans. all TV's both receive and transmit it detects the signals if you are watching a live broadcast. ... im just saying, the tech has existed for many years. it is illegal not to pay a license, if you watch the BBC channels. and they can get police to get a warrant to access the property. it is a service, and they charge for that service, just like its against the law to get a dish to receive sky without paying.
DarkDanjamin 1 week ago
@DarkDanjamin You have no idea what you're talking about < 25 years no TV License
AnonHancock 1 week ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Poor deluded woman, she is a tool in so many ways.
planetrockford 2 weeks ago
lmao
it would take nasa to do that,,lying toads they are.
crsbt 2 weeks ago
You cannot pinpoint an ocillating signal, they are EVERYWHERE (25 + Years working in the electronics industry)
trollsareus1 2 weeks ago 4
They will be able to tell if any TV signals are being broadcast from the property' Aye awrite love LMAO
trollsareus1 2 weeks ago
@trollsareus1 ok....please explain how they can do it
videogangstar 2 weeks ago
@videogangstar Probably some sort of device inside the TV that broadcasts on a public frequency. If it's afterall true.
BurritoBazooka 2 weeks ago
@BurritoBazooka the thing is....in all the time the so called detection equipment has been said to be used.....the evidence from such a device has never been produced in court. What does this tell you?
videogangstar 2 weeks ago
@videogangstar That its just a guy in a transit van with a flask of coffee and a Twix. Even if they COULD tell you were watching Corrie in the back room its inadmissible.
Thoughtland 1 week ago
@BurritoBazooka LOL It's not true and it never was true ever ever... Propoganda for the masses
trollsareus1 2 weeks ago
@videogangstar When people talk about TV licensing, one of the most discussed subjects online are the inner workings of TV detector Vans and TVL’s TV detection gadgets - and whether they actually exist.
Keeping up the myth of TV Detection is of such importance to the BBC that it claims it would lose out on funding if people are given an insight into the method of TV Detection
trollsareus1 2 weeks ago
@videogangstar lol no I was just sayin what that woman at capita was chunnering hehe
trollsareus1 1 week ago
@trollsareus1 i can see the good old British sarcasm now....lol :)
videogangstar 1 week ago
@videogangstar There is no way they would be able to tell if you were recieving signal unless they walked into your house and switched on the tv. even then i do believe even if your arial was hooked up to your tv as long as it wasn't switched on then it would still be legal. I use video transmitters for my hobby and consider myself fairly knowledgable on the subject. I to dont watch tv and have been "harrased" by the tv licencing company.
sticks1471 1 week ago
@trollsareus1
Just listened to this and can confirm that the bbc do not pick up signals from your house,
this is because you have an ariel or dish which can only receive signals.
You would have to have an antenna fixed to your TV system for them to observe signals being transmitted. An antenna can both transmit and recieve signals ok.
I am a qualified Radio User for the Army so I am not shitting you.
If you have questions about any other subject let me know via rob1966@gmx.co.uk
phlebdouglas 1 week ago
WTF, now that's is interesting on what this person has said, because I may have an leaflet that says, you require a tv licence to even watch bbcIplayer, so, if what she said is true, then why would they lie about this?, has anyone else got this at all? about the bbciPlayer?
markhorneyuk 2 weeks ago
It's rubbished, this is why they want the switch over, but to be honest, it's just ballsing them up from people who generally have a tv, but no set top box or any form of access to tv channels.
markhorneyuk 2 weeks ago
To completely avoid breaking any TVL laws including new ones just buy a nice pc moniotor without a tv receiver to play consoles on, then they can't do anything at all period. ;)
Riotmakertk 2 weeks ago
@Riotmakertk TV licence is nothing to do with owning a tv........its watching live broadcasts. you can have 10 tv's if you wish....and you can watch i player without needing a licence.
videogangstar 2 weeks ago
363Licence required for use of TV receiver
Paste URL below into your address bar to see the full legislation in my last message and resist the BBC mind Police
legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/363
keithanthony0169 3 weeks ago
(3)A person with a television receiver in his possession or under his control who—
(a)intends to install or use it in contravention of subsection (1), or
(b)knows, or has reasonable grounds for believing, that another person intends to install or use it in contravention of that subsection,
Seems mind scanner advanced technology is in use since they now know, although we haven't yet committed an offense by being in possession of a TV, it is our intention to install or know someone who will.
keithanthony0169 3 weeks ago
Maybe a PVR.... pause the TV for 20 seconds or so... the press play... TADA! you're not watching, "Live TV". BUT... BIG BUT! You need to get, in writing, their legal definition of "live broadcast" and "watching". On my PVR when I fast forward after pausing it... it will inform you when you have caught up by prompting you up in the corner "LIVE TV". At the end she did mention "receiving live broadcasts" so be careful. Appreciate the videos and information. Cheers
shazzzam79 3 weeks ago
What you can do instead is remove your Virgin/Sky box, disconnect your aerial and download all your tv episodes from websites that record them for you. You CAN use BBC Iplayer/ITV Player to watch the repeats. You cannot watch live broadcasts in any form (on your mobile, PC, TV) to avoid a TV License. : Side note : If you buy a TV they will ask for your post code - this is to check if a TV license is present at the property. Places like Argos will/can refuse the sale if you do not provide one.
ukffphoenix 1 month ago
@ukffphoenix
Bollocks...all you say is that it's a present for someone for their new flat or house and you don't know the postcode! A big electrical retailer refusing a sale??? NO CHANCE!
Give the prefix only and that would suffice.
hearts76100 1 month ago
The TV is a receiver not a transmitter, but the can check for heat from the tv...
ding0925 1 month ago in playlist More videos from videogangstar
Ha ha ha full of shit!
jonboxer 1 month ago
The detector units used to detect the signal given off by the RF tuner unit which was built into older TVs. This is what it would use to tune into the desired analogue channel you were watching. With the more modern TVs now being almost exclusively digital, and the digital switchover making analogue signals defunct, this is no longer possible.
Even if they were to detect this signal it may not mean you are watching/recording channels as they are broadcast, just that your TV was switched on.
mu5hh34d 1 month ago
I can't believe England has a tax on TV use, when the Government wants people watching and being indoctrinated.
btw, I know licences have been around for yonkers, a la pre On the Buses.
PeekyBooo 1 month ago
They may be able to bounce a signal off your antenna, but that would only show you have an antenna that's tuned for TV reception.
Most TV's are in a faraday-cage so no signal should be transmitted bar what comes out of the screen. Note most TV are now digital so the old methods to controlling the cathode are gone, along with the radiation/induction waves.
PeekyBooo 1 month ago
lmao if they could detect people using tvs with hand held gizmos....every inspector would have one!!!!
mrsuperbafrango 1 month ago
That woman on the phone is bluffing. They can't tell if you are watching the tv unless they can see it physically! Anyhow, it's irrelevant whether the detection technology the BBC/TVL claims to have actually works. Evidence cannot be heard in a court of law unless it is available to both the prosecution and the defense, and since TV Licensing and the BBC refuse to disclose the technology they use, gathered results cannot be admitted as evidence. Awesome!
fatalist6o9 1 month ago
Just wondering, what happens with live streams then? or does that not count because its not content from a broadcasting television service?
360GameBox 2 months ago
Wouldn't a detector van be about as intrusive as a using binoculars to see into your house or equipment to eaves drop on your conversations and therefore illegal?
OshiSeven 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Is that David Laws, of the I have a house in the south of France, etc.?
OohGoshYoureRight 2 months ago
good man...I am personally battling nob head bailiffs in the same way...keep it up!
SuperWigwambam 3 months ago
so lets get this straight, u can be sat there in your house, they can come in while your watching eastenders (recorded) and they cant say a damn thing because its not a live broadcast. if they caught u watching bbc 1 or any of the bbc channels live they can fine u, is this correct?
1RebelDog1 3 months ago
@1RebelDog1 spot on :)
videogangstar 3 months ago
@1RebelDog1 No they can't come in UNLESS you invite them. The response to your comment is wrong by videogangstar. TVL have no right to enter your home without a search warrant that they are very unlikey to get.
onlywhenpissed 2 months ago
@1RebelDog1 technically I think they can claim against you if you have the equipment for receiving live transmissions (which is what the licence is for, not for owning a tv), but even they'll say you can just stick a bit of tape over the arial socket or plug it into something which doesn't receive a signal and you're in the cleaer
SolidSquid1 1 month ago
@1RebelDog1 No, Not correct, part 4 of the communications act 2003 states if you 'install or use' a television receiver you need to be covered by a TV license, the key wording there is 'install OR' so if you have a TV, you need a licence whether you watch live broadcasts or not.
crazycranners 1 month ago
@crazycranners this ISNT true, u can have a tv as long as its not plugged in to tv reciving hardware, like an ariel or a sky box, ive phoned up and asked them, i also told them that i have removed right of access over my land and if they come onto my property they are subject to a £1000 right of access fee. lets see if they call round now :)
1RebelDog1 1 month ago
Key word was Arial/Antenna broadcast...
iamufreak 3 months ago
everyone should call to cancel or withdraw, then set a appointment for them to check at the same exact time then give no other options to check and leave it up to them. wonder what would happen?
cmndlinekungfu 3 months ago
The BBC can waste their time Driving around with their TV broadcast scanner truck, it won't detect shit, for one simple reason...
TV sets DO NOT BROADCAST ANY SIGNALS, they only RECEIVE SIGNALS from the TV stations (that's why their called "TV receivers").
RatFinkRod 3 months ago
you tell them m8 gonna take a leaf outta your book... excellent!
robertmurphy2007 3 months ago
I presume the TV licence/tax is to fund the BBC, if so why can't you just not have the BBC and instead just have the other channels (the channels paid for through adverts and/or subscriptions) ?
RPFS2008 3 months ago
@RPFS2008 Because this is Britain and it's disgusting and wrong. Monkey say but monkey not doing as he told nowadays.
onlywhenpissed 2 months ago
I imagine that some sort of detector technology could exist, but I imagine it's cost would far out weight the kind of money it would help them to collect, it has to be a fear tactic
sammipooh 3 months ago
lol pseudoscience to scare people into yet another ad hoc blackmail fear tax
sammipooh 3 months ago
Lies and damn lies, they cannot use electronic equipment to snoop on you in the privacy of your own home by law. That is why they keep sending people to knock on your door. If they could legally use detection equipment, they would never need to knock on anyones door. And they have no legal right of entry to your home either, they can only enter if you are silly enough to invite them in.
dashwood123 3 months ago
@dashwood123 True.
TheJesusofkayaking 3 months ago
@dashwood123 Like vampires!
PrimordiumAlphaOE 5 days ago
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middlj14 3 months ago
What a pile of crap!!! Detector van......LOL
She sounds like she needs some length,,,,,
hearts76100 3 months ago 8
@hearts76100 you can detect the electromagnetic magnet field broadcast from the transmitter, you can detect disruption in the field caused by TV receivers.
adslrooter 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@adslrooter
Yeah.....in the 70s & 80s maybe!
Don't make me laugh with that scaremongering nonsense.
Look up the word oscillator ma boy. Enjoy
hearts76100 1 month ago
Wow, I never have even heard of a license to watch a broadcast... ignorant American I guess. It just sounds really far-fetched that they would try to charge you for sending frequencies through your neighborhood.
Br1an428 4 months ago
There ARE ways of detecting the presence & operation of a TV set, but it is not conclusive proof of you breaking the law(act?). If you are using it as a monitor for a VCR or video gaming, NOT illegal in any way. The reason detectors are seldom used is that newer TVs have such good screening & such a low local oscillator level they're pretty useless at finding anything.
Biggerbadwolf 4 months ago
@Biggerbadwolf My brother explained this to me recently (he's a real life boffin) & you're right. the old CRT TV's were detectable in the manner that it is in operation but not what you are watching or using it for. It could merely detect the mechanism was in use. The new flat screen TV's are as you said nigh on impossible to detect. They still have to enter your property to examine the set. This is where their authority crumbles as they have no right of access unless you invite them in.
taffwob 3 months ago
I have to add, if you are using a CRT TV to play X-Box games and stuff, then from what she was saying is, that they would also be able to see what games you were playing, but she didn’t say that, she only said if you were watching live broadcasts.. pawned herself there.. Meh!
DumpYourTelevision 4 months ago
What a lovely condescending voice she had ... how quaint
DumpYourTelevision 4 months ago
hahahaha that woman is lying through her teeth, I know 100% that the detector vans are a myth
TheBoHoBoy 4 months ago
I take it you dont have a TV then :D
MysteriousVlogger 4 months ago
OK let me get this right you can have a TV in your property and not own a T.V License because it dosent receive live broadcast. This video has been most helpful, thanks !
MysteriousVlogger 4 months ago
Lets get it right, TV's don't broadcast a signal, They receive a signal, TV's aren't required to transmit a signal for any reason! Even if they could broadcast it wouldn't be possible for them to triangulate the signal!
I4M4TR0LL 4 months ago
@I4M4TR0LL TVs do emit a very low level signal called a local oscillator, this is what they look for. What we did once was build an oscillator on the same frequency (about 794Mhz). It ran off a 12v battery & we stashed it in a tree so it was difficult to find. The signal was much stronger than any L.O., so swamped the detectors. Caused a little bit of interference on my TV but that way I knew it was still working.
Biggerbadwolf 4 months ago
You could have also asked if these detector vans/hand held devices have ever been used as evidence in a court case. If not, why not? Also if these devices have been used to gain a search warrant... Good video, cheers.
ModerateMartian 5 months ago
@ModerateMartian i think on my other video i do just that......i got a nother video called "phone call 2" go check it out.:)
videogangstar 5 months ago
@videogangstar Oh ok Ill give it a look.
ModerateMartian 5 months ago
@videogangstar Something the TVLA woman said about watching live broadcasts. How many programmes are actually screened live by the BBC? for eg broadcasting a football match as the game is being played in real time, that is the correct definition live TV.
IMO watching TV programmes on a PC after they were broadcast earlier is no different to watching an episode of Fools and Horses on TV that was filmed many years ago. IYSWIM.
No doubt the BBC have an excuse for this to keep people paying.
dashwood123 3 months ago
I hope you didn't give these wankers your real name
I rang these cunt's the other day and told them I was the householder and that I no longer required a licence as I do not watch live TV.
They tried to get my name but I refused to give it.
The next day a letter arrived addressed to "the present occupier "
It said thanks for telling us you don't need a licence but we may still come and check anyway.
So they still don't believe me.
Let's see them prosecute Mr No Name ha ha fucking cunt's
cmadog 5 months ago
@cmadog i had a TV license b4 i cancelled, so they know who i am......it dont matter though....im not hiding away from the bullies.....they dont scare me :)
videogangstar 5 months ago
@videogangstar
That's the spirit - FUCK EM !!!!!
cmadog 5 months ago
@videogangstar That's they way! Never let TVL intimidate you.
TheJesusofkayaking 3 months ago
Whilst watching this vieo a TVL advert popped up. lol!
TheJesusofkayaking 3 months ago
@cmadog Loved yr comment. I kept getting letters after i cancelled mine, addressed to the Occupier & them saying they were going to send someone round - they never did. Shame really I was quite looking forward to chatting to the SALESMAN - lol.... Peace :)
tazzym1 4 months ago in playlist More videos from videogangstar
It used to be possible on older CRT based TVs to detect from a small distance away what was being shown on the TV, but on modern LCD/Plasmas, I dont think its been possible.
BlokusBeardicus 5 months ago
@666PCgamer ??? what are you talking about??? you can have a computer and a tv without a license!!!!! it should be called a "live tv signal receiver license". in other words .....you only need a tv license if you receive a live broadcast....you can log on I player and watch a program that was on earlier that day without having a license.
videogangstar 5 months ago
at 0.50 she says they can detect tv being broadcast from the property, since when do you broadcast tv?? the technology does not exist for the bbc to tell if u are RECEIVING a signal, she is telling you a pack of lies.
MrBillyt12345 5 months ago
Haha...they can only pick up broadcasts not receivers!
HumanSayNo 6 months ago
great phone call, you asked all the right questions and was very polite. What more can you ask for?
61shirley 6 months ago
by lieing to you to get you to buy a TV licence is the lady committing fraud?
optionsupdate 6 months ago
has any case been brought before a court which used detector van evidence?
optionsupdate 6 months ago
you should not state "no licence needed" you should withdraw the implied right to enter the property"
optionsupdate 6 months ago
can they really detect a TV signal from outside the property?
optionsupdate 6 months ago
SInce when did TVs themselves broadcast signals?!?!? HAHA!
therhythmicmenace 7 months ago
@therhythmicmenace They did transmit a signal! The oscillator that fed into the mixer used to down convert the signal re-radiated back out through the aerial.
It was easily filtered and band filtering is now mandatory because some TV's used to wreck reception to other TV's in the showrooms.
m1aws 6 months ago
They have a handheld detection system.
You can see it in action here :P
watch?v=iaVMO4t_D8c
TrondW3 7 months ago 9
@TrondW3 hahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha NICE ONE THAT WAS FUNNY :)
videogangstar 7 months ago
@TrondW3 hahahahahaha, about right
1RebelDog1 3 months ago
lmao!!!! Well in videogangstar
iamnathan2002 7 months ago
Tv's receive not broadcast.....
yanicozmonic 7 months ago
Aha, so it's only a licence to BROADCAST TV signals. Well that's fair enough. I'll happily pay a hundred or so to have me own TV channel.
usenetposts 7 months ago
What did you mean he called the police "when he had no right to"? Who needs permission to call the police?
MsCrazyCuckoo 7 months ago
she talks bollocks.
SpiralTrance 8 months ago
Ok lets just say, in a mad moment of fiction, that these detectors DO exist, how the HELL on gods green earth would they be able to detect 'live broadcasts' sent to a TV via a cable under the ground, which is how a lot of people receive their TV. How would they be able to 'detect' what's live and what's not? Wouldn't all TV sent via a 'detectable' signal be classed as live, whilever that signal was live? Capita & tech mix about as well as oil & water.
thewr0ngchild 8 months ago
0:48 'They will be able to check if any t.v signals are being BROADCAST FROM the property' LOOOOL Now she is accusing you of running a pirate T.V station from your home ha ha.
toweronepower 8 months ago
A TV guy came round to my house once saying he had the right to enter the property to check I didn't have a tv set. I asked if he had a warrant.. he didn't so i said good day and went to close the door. He stuck his foot in the door and tried to force his way in, I said you try that again and I will see it as an attack within my property and respond defensively, after all I still haven't seen any id and you could be anyone. He said he would return with the police, I said ok, he never did.
CreamPie9uy 8 months ago 2
@CreamPie9uy Thanks for this info as i didnt expect them to go that far! ill remember to have a cricket bat ready next time they call
petayV8 8 months ago
Another thing. If you do some real research about withdrawing their implied right of access you will clearly see on YouTube that their goons say "oh, I didn't realise you have withdrawn the right of implied access'. The golden rule with TVL is NEVER contact them for ANY reason. My advice is the best you any any viewer of this video will ever get.
onlywhenpissed 9 months ago
Karen lied to you on numerous ocassions. Only after the 6 minute mark did she tell thre truth about licensing requirements. EVERYTHNG she said about van and handheld detectors was LIES. Get my comment to the top because it is factual. TVL licence CANNOT detect signals coming INTO or OUT of a television. FACT.
onlywhenpissed 9 months ago
lol TV are receivers not broadcasters. Would love to know how the BBC actually can prove that a signal is received by your TV. Secondly, if they DO have this technology they are "wire-tapping" your personal property and they will need a warrant to achieve that. Little wonder the BBC has refused Freedom Of Information requests regarding how they achieve this!
All Lies.
haeresy 9 months ago
reception detecting VHF & UHF is impossible to detect. IMPOSSIBLE. But the new digital TV I've heard it had hardware/software. get an older model TV if that the case.
eachtem 10 months ago
A point that is seldom mentioned about detection equipment is that its use has to be authorised. You can't just pick up an electronic surveillance device and go off and use it. The authorisation is for a limited time, so would need renewing.
It is just not worth the hassle to deploy detection equipment. Eyes and ears are the detection devices that will be used to detect your TV set.
spudgun121 10 months ago
On another note and a somewhat obvious one. If you subscribe to TV via Virgin, Sky or any other service provider, your details are on record as having TV reception equipment. Even having just a broadband internet connection CAN get you prosecuted if you visit BBC's iPlayer website, a cookie with your registered IP address is received by your service provider which can be used as evidence of watching 'streamed' TV on your computer, but only if the TVL ask for it.
0MadeInEngland1 10 months ago
@0MadeInEngland1 did you listen to what the TVL said in this video? you can watch i player or any transmission that is not live!!!!! so it dont matter if i got virgin subscription or watch i player. as long as its not live!!!!
videogangstar 10 months ago 2
@videogangstar
Yes I did, but the BBC can prosecute if you watch BBC recorded 'streaming' as this still falls under the licence conditions, though they cannot prosecute for ITV streaming. I'm not in favour of the licence, I don't pay it nor ever will. I'm just like you in protest against the fee and therefore support everything you do. I'm just merely pointing out facts that people should be aware of so they themselves don't fall into the trap of being caught. It's best to be safe than sorry.
0MadeInEngland1 10 months ago
@0MadeInEngland1 not true....bbc recorded i player streaming can be watched, as it is not live broadcasting...also if you watch itv live broadcasts you still can be prosecuted.
Thank you for your support on this subject but you seem a little confused over the matter....ill try to break it down for you. any program you watch on your tv as its being broadcast live you need a license. you dont need a license for dvds ps3's xbox's or iplayer (if its yesterdays content) because this is not live!!!...
videogangstar 10 months ago 4
@videogangstar The TVL website states quite clearly that you can watch iplayers on any channel, as long as you don't watch live streaming. As soon as I realised this, I simply disconnected the coax, put my Virgin box in the cupboard, and plugged an HDMI lead into my pc. Saving a fortune now.
wibblywobbly1 8 months ago
@videogangstar Also virgin do not give any details to tv licensing or give access to any
TheWolfmoon21 5 months ago
@0MadeInEngland1 enjoy your stay in jail you al-qaeda criminal scum the government is coming for you!!!! HOW DARE YOU NOT PAY THE MAFIA, HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stopthesoftkill 6 months ago
TV's don't emit transmission signals. The woman on the phone is misinformed.
TV's are receivers, a static 50-200mv ultra-low current signal is however sent to the 'outside' antenna in order to energize it (ionize within an atmosphere) and thus magnetise the receptive signal from the transmission mast(s). The antenna itself is therefore 'live' but does NOT reveal what frequency(s) are being received. This does not form evidence of TV viewing misuse, coax near a mains socket can also energise it.
0MadeInEngland1 10 months ago
oops, commented just before the end of the vid ..!
DumpYourTelevision 10 months ago
She has a very condescending voice do you not think?
Pity you didn’t ask her if she had PERSONALLY seen a Detector van.
Personally I would not wish to speak to any company who has a first call point of call with condescending employees like that.
A waste of time in any case.
DumpYourTelevision 10 months ago
I say this to TVL:, if you got it, use it, instead of hounding poor souls night and day with your persistent door knocking goons, threat-o-gram letters, and waste of space billboard name and shame advertising. C'mon TVL, use your detection bullshit to detect us out, time to put up shut up. The game is up.
xenbay 10 months ago
This is a really interesting video and I commend you for having the initiative and bravery to contact these cretins and challenge them on the detection van myth. The tone of her voice said it all I think when she answered, I could tell she was lying and just repeating what they have been told to say. The detection stuff just don't add up and make any sense to me. If they actually had such devices surely they would show them working instead of hiding them all secret.
xenbay 10 months ago
Thank you for putting this on YouTube, excellent , keep up the good work
legaloccupier 10 months ago
ah yes great to see the good old fashion British corporate propaganda
55shug55 10 months ago
Lol a TV receives signals it does not broadcast them! The signals are everywhere all the time, owning a TV makes no difference, TV signals are in my garden shed, my bladder and my dogs cock. The TVL rely on ignorance and fear, they have no detection machines.
jonmns77 11 months ago
@jonmns77 you might be interested in freeman getting accused of speeding.... /watch?v=lBTpEJfnlM8
ConspiracyLoon 11 months ago
@jonmns77 Hahaha cool post
xenbay 10 months ago
At the 6 minute position in the video, TV Licensing's Karen says: "We are just following the law, and chasing people that are unlicensed".
Nowhere in the law on TV licensing is there a requirement to chase people that don't have a TV licence. Nowhere in the law on TV licensing does it say that the BBC should maximise its income from TV licences by "chasing" unlicensed people. This is entirely BBC/Capita/TV Licensing mindset.
spudgun121 11 months ago
@spudgun121 Well said spudgun. This is purely a money-making scam from an org that does everything it can to make money out of the gullible and poor, using the most vile methods that no company would ever legally get away with except for TVL.
xenbay 10 months ago
i remember the late eighties, pirate radio days. the officers used an airwave scanner to find the transmitter. thought it could be similar, but tv's are receivers...
kernzyp 11 months ago
Good job Gangstar keep it up!!! Really enjoyed your most recent vids!
besner 11 months ago
@besner thanks m8... camera on charge for the census door knockers:)
videogangstar 11 months ago
@videogangstar Census guys? Can't wait!
NytroMetal 10 months ago
@videogangstar haha...lol @ census knockers
arkinses1985 8 months ago
Great video. really good tho
61shirley 11 months ago
Detecters are bullshit. How can they tell? a signal is transmitted to your areal even if the TV is switched off
61shirley 11 months ago
I think it's about time the "bbc licence detector van" is added in second position to UK's list of legendary hoaxes, in first position is the loch ness monster.
aaaaaaa1 11 months ago
lol. TV Detector vans are in reality minibuses full of PEOPLE with clipboards.
Whilst the technology could feasibly exist to detect the signal "leakage" from a TV set at close range (ie. ON your property), the cost of actually employing such technology would mean that it would take thousands of fines to pay for such equipment and it would not be economically viable to put into place. I'm not aware of evidence obtained from TV detection technology EVER being used to bring about a conviction. ;)
TheHolySpirit 11 months ago