British Navy Admits Sailors were Spying on Iran

[thetoplap]

UK has got one of they most secretive and best trained millitary forces if they really want to spy on iran do you really think you i'll know about it?

[MP7A3]

Fucking Media, they risk world peace for "beaking news"

[nutguy187]

Iranians are the WORST people to do business with.

They make doing business with Russians seem like a dream

[hsybcmpny]

Jews are the worst for doing buisness with.

[MP7A3]

actually, they are really good with money. lol

[Communist2012]

boohooo poor babies got tortured LOL hypocrites they are doing the same thing to the muslims secretly torturing them! and then they cry when they get tortured!! LOL the english make me sick

[Communist2012]

Iranians kicked your ass lol YEH GO IRAN!

[RackJacket]

Two Gunboats with 50. Guns against small firearms?

Are you fucking nuts?

15 sailors in a speedboat?

How convieniant there was no other British battlecraft in the area

It was a attempt at kicking off a scene you idiot

[abbasbekam]

persian people r great.

this problem was with iranian gov..

[atsignyahoodotcom]

We Iranian definitely will not tolerate any invasion on our waters or lands. I've a video about another invasion but it shows the Special British Forces pee in their pants when they got arrested! lol

[Skep155]

If the special forces were in Iran you'd bloody know about it...

[atsignyahoodotcom]

watch?v=FT6K6lZH1Fk&feature=Pl­ayList&p=B4388979445245B7&play­next=1&index=29

[tegibb]

Mate are you in the navy? don't talk shit. Britain isn't at war with Iran, not much chance of them interfering with small handheld gps with equally small patrol ribs. i think i trust the RN slightly more than bryan adams! your obviously not a forces man coz u have know idea about the canadian navy or its relations with the rn! who is head os state? can't quite remember.

[ericssson]

come down billy

your full of yourself..

[kobe24vsjordan23]

in the video were they took an interview with the british soilders,they said they were in iranian water.quit talking like your so sure of yourself,You have the knowledge of a dog.Why the hell would they let them capture them to spy?what if they killed them

long live iran!!!!

[RobbieWright]

I am a freelance cameraman, I was on the Cornwall when they were taken, I was out with them on their ribs the day before, I was also in the chopper the day before, the pilot showed me on the GPS where the border was and also the buffer zone. I also took some pix of a ship smuggling cars into Iraq, this was the ship they were taken from and it was well inside Iraqi waters and it was in the same place the day after too. They were 100% with out a doubt NOT in Iranian waters when they were taken.

[RobbieWright]

I am a freelance cameraman and I was on the Cornwall when they were taken, I was out with them the day before and I was in the chopper over the smugglers ship they had boarded before they were taken. I can tell you 100% they were NOT in Iran's water. The pilot showed me ton the GPS where the border was and where the buffer zone was, the pilot told be they don't go into the buffer zone and I could see the ship was well out of the buffer zone and was still in the same place the day after.

[MementoExpose]

Long live Iran

[putinkaaa]

hahahhaa....british soldiers!

[az1zcolumbi]

dude, they got arrested by the persian nave. so what?

what do they want in persian gulf?

no one invited them to persian gulf.

and if you read history, Iran has never declared war on any counrty, but Britain. . .

[sabaton1231]

@az1zcolumbi WRONG! they declared war on british empire AND the soviet union,

[randomusernamemygod]

A dingy with soldiers armed with 5.56mm rifles vs 2 armoured patrol boats armed with 20mm guns. Who do you think would win in this situation and what would you do if you were in the dingy?

[Bigrumi]

I would have been prepared to do exactly the same thing the Australians did when the Iranians tied to capture them; which is what the British army should have done.

You can read all about it by going to:

GOOGLE (dot) Com

Type in

IRAN UNABLE TO TAKE AUSTRALIANS

Read the BBC news article on how REAL soldiers, Fight.

[TrevorOfCrete]

how easy it is for you to say that. And its not the british army, its the Royal Marines. Get your facts right and learn the rules of engagment. Whats worse, having a handful of soldiers taken 'hostage' for a few days or potentially start another massive crises in the middle east, Caused simply becuase people are to concerned by the size of there bollocks.

[teldalin91]

i wouldnt want to be those iranians if that was a boat filled with some jarheads

[Bigrumi]

What the BBC article said was that: The circumstances for the Britons were "Slightly" different in that they were caught so much by "SURPISE" ... But military sources say that what is of "concern" is that the Royal Navy DID NOT appear to have taken sufficient account of the lessons of the Australian encounter.

[Bigrumi]

So basically it comes down to this: The British patrol shouldn't have been "surprise" but PREPARED for the Iranians after learning they tried to capture the Aussies.

The map your British navy gave your 15 British soldiers who was captured by the Iranians wasn't even accurate.

You can read all about it by going to:

GOOGLE (dot) Com

Type in

MPS CRITICISE MAP USED IN IRAN CRISIS

Read the Reuters news article about it.

[smsgt1]

Just a quick one, the Royal Marines Commandos have the longest and most testing basic training of any infantry in the world, the men have to do a 30 mile speed march with kit in 8hrs amongst others, it is not they are weak, it is that they are let down by the government, that sends them to fight, but ties their hands in the ways that they can fight.

[Bigrumi]

Gratex - for a so-called "adult" you sure aren't capable of linear thinking. The fact that you made your moronic comment in the first place; in a thinly veiled & amateurish attempt to dispute my argument about the British army shows that YOU DO CARE. And the Fact you back here again speaking gibberish without a cogent argument shows how intellectually bankrupt you are. In your case "It's was better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt".

[Bigrumi]

Here I'll try to make a vain attempt to educate you. It's This: Just because you don't "feel socially obliged to pay loudmouthed homage to all the state institutions like some fool praying to mecca 5 times a day" still doesn't mean that the terrorists WON'T KILL YOU, even your "Boy George" is clever enough to know that, or have you forgotten the doomed history of 7/7 & Glasgow Airport that the UK risk repeating if it doesn't win this global war on terror.

[BigPoppaDon]

To all you George Galloway fans.

Type in the YouTube search box " Re: British Marines before and after their debriefing " and watch the video.

And see UK soldiers performing at their BEST!

[redleader7]

The conflict going on in Iraq is not conventional in the least.. there are no front lines, no pitched battles, no victories. To say that British forces were defeated is not understanding the situation at all. The British forces have however done a very large amount of fighting in Afghanistan which is quite frankly where we should be concentrating our efforts anyway. BTW Im an American

[Bigrumi]

theguvnorjimmy -- So the excuse now, its not a real war because in real war the UK army would exterminated all the Iraqi Shite like the Nazis did with the Jews.

With this pathetically low level of thinking no wonder you Brits called the UK army handling Basra over to Shite Iraq army, who are infiltrated and controlled by Shite Mahdi Army (the very insurgents that killed 168 UK soldiers) and go crawling out of Basra in the middle of the night under the protection of a curfew a victory.

[Bigrumi]

Son, here a history lesson for you:

The US supported the UK militarily since 1914 when both were Allies in WW1.

Britain problems with Ireland started when King Henry II invaded Ireland in 1171. The US didn't exist until 1776, so Britain alone is to be blame for over 800 years of conflict with Ireland.

Stay focus in the 21st Century, the FACT is the international perception of the British army due to poor performance in Iraq, is that it's WEAK.

[theguvnorjimmy]

The last paragraph has to be a joke. The British army is not exactly in a real war. They are trying to police Iraq. Soldiers are not policemen, they are killers. They are trained to kill.

If this was a real war then there wouldn't be anyone left in Iraq as they would all be dead. We wouldn't even need nukes either. Just loads of money pumped into it and loads of troops. Trying to police a country is very hard and British and American troops are the best in the world.

[gratex]

you go back to 1171 for "proof" then tell someone to stay focused in the 21st century, hmmm.

English quote:

You're talking out your arse.

;)

[Bigrumi]

Gratex - the moronic point you made about 1171 & 21st Century, was a really feeble attempt to create a Red Herring because I notice you didn't refute my "undeniable" argument that the British military is WEAK and my "proof" for this is the BBC news article "Iran unable to take Australians". But if you care to prove otherwise on this video that stands as a testimony to British humiliation by the Iranians then as the American saying goes; Put Up or shut Up!

[gratex]

Arrogance comes before a fall.

[gratex]

I don't refute anything you've said because you're so deluded that to take on such a task would involve many years of education, psychological therapy and lots of pats on the head. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[gratex]

I'm not interested in comparing soldiers from varies arbitrary nations on the planet because I really DON'T CARE. I'm not a jaded repeater machine that feels socially obliged to pay loudmouthed homage to all the state institutions like some fool praying to mecca 5 times a day. Your rhetoric is tiresome, petty and ignorant - Just because you know more than cousin Billy-Jo does not mean that you are clever.

[Reapara]

Clearly you know nothing about any military anywhere, the Marines were in a RIB and the Iranians had two Patrol boats. At the end of the BBC report about the Aussies it says the situations were different, I do however disagree with their conduct in custody. To refute your argument I only have ask you to look up the reports of the SBS killings of Taliban leaders where the US military has proven incompetent, they also rescued some Italian soldiers.

[Bigrumi]

I just wanted to bring to you Brits attention in case you want to know how REAL soldiers kept the Iranians from capturing them, I suggest you: Go to

GOOGLE (dot) Com

Type in

Iran unable to take Australians

Then read your own BBC News article about the story.

The fact is your arm forces have a lot to learn on "how to take care of business" and to use an old English quote:

"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting."

[cgman2]

British have never admited any spying on iran they proberbly do but their not going to do it with 5 guys a a little boat we got spy satalites and spy planes to spy on child mudering countries that support terrorists.

[Halomaster7]

Oh I see. It is Iran that is killing and raping children, women and the elderly in Iraq! What a jackass

[GoldenTagachi]

@Halomaster7 well yeah...it is the iraqys...and iranys kill everyone that isnt muslim or if is a homo they cut off is head.

or if a woman cheat on her husben or even look for 1 sec on another man they put her in a hole and stone her.....black people in africa are better then you

[madiovich]

@cgman2'' child mudering countries that support terrorists''. like u.k and u.s you mean??

[BigPoppaDon]

Iran captured 15 British sailors (without a fight) and convinced them (again without a fight) to confess that they were spying in Iranian territory. And now the news reports, British forces will make an "ugly and embarrassing" withdrawal from the Iraqi city of Basra, when they hand it over IN DEFEAT to local Iraqi forces in a few months.

Nowadays the British army is just a weak and cowardly fighting force when compared with the "Brave" Ameri-CAN arm forces.

[chillkill1192]

the british was going to take military action on iran if thay dident hand them over. its a good job thay did because britain would wipe them off the map

[omid7p]

WHO R U KIDDIN CHILLKILL? BRITISH COULDNT DO A DAMN THING, ITS IRAN THAT COLD HAVE WIPED EVERY SINGLE BRITISH MILITARY BASE OFF THE PERSIAN GULF...im really sick n tired of retards like u making stupid comments.

[theguvnorjimmy]

looool omid, what a funny post. The facts is, Britain, America or Israel could wipe the extreme Persian/Iranian nutters off the map.

[johnpaulwinters]

What secret information could they possibly gather in a rubber dingy?

[somacribmister]

The blokes who got themselves captured should be ashamed. The Iranians tried the same thing on a Royal Australian Navy boarding party and the RAN scared them off. Those guys shoulg be kicked out of the Royal Navy

[SA80Soldier]

Lets see you talk tough when you've got AKs and machine guns pointing at you.

For a 13 year old, you really are quite stupid.

[Halomaster7]

Your analogy doesn't even make sense. The reality is that the Iranians won this battle. If a war does break out the British cant handle the realities on the ground. That the Iranians have adequate missile technology, weaponry, aircraft, etc. to overwhelm any attack. Do me a favor and check out the other movies on youtube regarding the capabilities of the Iranian military.

[telmac899]

The Good ol USA would have handled it all 'Gung Ho' style and started shooting I expect and got every fucker killed as usual plus escalated the already tense situation throughout the wider Middle East.The Yanks are about as tactful as a fuckin' nail bomb going off.

[InterpolFL]

that nail bomb gets the job done!

but seriously, this thing happened to us before if you don't remember. Iran just wants attention so it does stupid stunts. I think these British soldiers shouldn't be allowed back in England. One of them cried himself to sleep because an Iranian kept on flicking his neck with his finger and thumb.

[InterpolFL]

if that's so then why do they have over 12 million conscripts? are they expecting to fight a war against the whole world?

[ccclllsport]

@Halomaster7 Well Britain really won this 'battle' Iran has isolated it's self from the rest of the world. Showed the world that it lies and over reacts.While Britaqin got support for remaing calm and not using force to attack. Think about it, in future would any counry want to help iran a country that takes soldiers hostage and films then and shows it to the media? over reacts, lies. Would any country want to lose lives defending iran now? even more so with their nuclear power plans

[Halomaster7]

@ccclllsport Yea Britian was embarrassed. The almight British Navy got its sailors apprehended by the 'weak' Iranian riffraff's. Britian is am imperialistic nation alongside the US and its days have been waning since WWII. Iran doesnt need anyone to defend it. It is perfectly capable of defending itself and its borders from any aggression or violation of its national sovereign right. In the end those on the side of independence against the hegemonic criminals in the US and UK will win out in end

[ccclllsport]

@Halomaster7 not really imperialisitc, the British are building two new super carrier war hips incase we go to war with iran, if they make any nukes. If Iran makes nukes or threatens another country, the world will pounch on it, faster then you can say allah. By doing this Iran lost any respect it had. Do you think the world wants a country what takes soldiers captive and films them and humilates them, to have nukes?I thought Iran was a county not a bunch of terrorists

[Halomaster7]

@ccclllsport Build carriers all night and day. The world has changed buddy. The US and UK cant get their way like they did. Many nations in the world are now more awakened to the crimes committed by the imperialist powers and their stooges the zionists. Iran has not attacked anyone in over 350 years. In that time the UK has attacked every continent and the US is well on its way. Iran is a country built on a solid foundation of standing up to its right including peaceful use of nuclear energy.

[Caydn]

@ccclllsport lmao no you didnt win m at least our aussie sailors told the iranians to f off when they tried to snatch them our boys were ready to fight it out and the iranians backed off

[vkcarver]

The Iranians were looking for our guys to open fire on them so that they would have an excuse to enter the war properly, as our lads are so well disciplined and have superior training they followed their rules of engagement and didn't give the iranians what they wanted.

All this talk of who would kick who's arses is all a load of shite as well. As soon as iran did anything out of line the trigger happy idiot Bush would bomb the fuck out of them.

[kyle4834731]

halo stfu we are winnin in iraq and it is iran that needs to be careful they wont do shit to us without gettin their asses kicked even if it aint by us the rest of nato will do it iran is lucky we didnt just declare war on them and who are u to try an take the piss outta our armed forces wat are u an iraqi or summat thats sour we put u in ur place?

[menace688]

im a royal marine, you lot are just jealous that we rule, best in the world

[Halomaster7]

Yea the Falklands! Like Argentina has an army or anything of that nature. The British Army will get its ass kicked by the Iranians if they try to get stupid. Look at the capture of the sailors. The British went home with there heads laying low.

[BlueonGoldZ]

Are you serious? Britain's military is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Irans in terms of strength and quality. The capture of the sailors means nothing you idiot. TWe Brits went home with our heads high becasue we managed to solve the problem diplomatically. If you think about it, the Iranians are the one who lost out because they caved in to let the sailors and marines go AND they further ostricised themselves from the rest of the world.

Think or study before you 'speak'. Dumbass.

[airforce82]

"Like Argentina has an army or anything of that nature" Thats amaizing! You mean it was the Boy Scouts that took over the Falklands back in '82 and not their Armed Forces? Oh and i suppose they were just setting off fireworks and stumbled upon an EXORCET, and their Air Force was actually some private pilots that got lost, ahh its all clear now!

[InterpolFL]

actually the Argentines had the finest army in South America, and just like Iran relied on conscripts.

[Halomaster7]

The British cant even take on Iraqis with AK's and RPG's. You expect them to fight an army that is 5 times there size and with excellent weaponry and win. LOL!!

[victoryleader]

well i work in the dockyard and i have never seen a noose, as for these muppets they shoukld have been chucked out the forces for being yellow twats

[Praetonia]

"Spying on Iran" is not against international law, nor is it grounds on which to legally sieze the sailors. That would only have been legal if they were in Iranian waters, which seems unlikely to have been the case.

[chrisbangz]

This dose not prove anything! The sailors were taken from Iraqi waters Not iranian as has been said already...and further more...are you all that thick to think that the uk are not spying on the iranian goverment?!! and vice verscer!!!!

[TheFoodDyeGenius]

Up until 2001 the only crime worthy of capital punishment in the UK was treason. We have no death penalty now. If we caught people spying on our territory we'd have them taken to an international court. We'd also treat the humanely - unlike the Iranians.

[AnEvilPenguin]

Actually there is still the death penalty for arson in one of her majestys ports (Naval bases) which is why there is still a noose in Portsmouth Naval Docks.

[Crazy1812Horse]

this doesnt show that the british were spying. it shows that they were gathering information from locals and if u believe the british WITHIN the iraqi waters. pefectly legal and not espionage. if it was in iranian waters and they were looking for themselves it was spying. this isnt

[wotpie]

how come the first position the iranians gave out matched the position the royal navy came up with, the iranians were out of order and out of their leauge. the officer on this video was describing routine operations of patrolling, you ask questions to gather information on anything, when they were captured they were near a transport ship looking for weapons/drug smuggling.

[chilidrew727]

my friends friend mate was one of the captured

[sadeghiyani]

they shud ave killed them,jus picture wat wud ave happend if it was the otha way round and iran was spyin on england and shit...the brits wud ave hung the iranians

[Crazy1812Horse]

thats quite contradictory to the real world...we havent hung anyone in many many years. we have no death penalty. they probably would be released over negotiations or worst gone to jail. america wud have executed them

[truthadvocate]

I disagree with Bush & Blair on many issues, so quit assuming I'm brainwashed. I could easily argue that you have been brainwashed to blame the West and Israel for all the problems in the Middle East. Arabs did not live in peace with the Jews prior to the establishment of Israel. The UN divided the Jews and Arabs in an attempt to stop escalating violence already occurring. Putting all blame on establishment of Israel, & ignoring all blame on any Muslim or Arab nations is irrational

[Halomaster7]

If you felt that I attacked you personally let me tell you that was not my intention. So I do apologize if you felt that way. The history is clear. Before foreign interference in the Middle East the people lived in relative peace as Muslims, Jews, Christians, Arabs, etc. When colonialism began there was a highly successful campaign to 'divide and conquer'. Also im not putting all the blame on Israel but the root cause of the problem is their policies of death and destruction.

[MCAZ33M]

Thats a lie.Muslims have always sheltered jews.The crusades were a perfect example. The problem is these "Jews" are far from being descendants of Abraham. They originate in S.Russia and were once known as Kazarians. Aparthide, Nazism,Manifest Destiny-ZIONISM-SAME PEOPLE killing indiginous populations. Its called White Supremacy which must be IMPOSED because the idea is so funny-It Hurts.

[truthadvocate]

So U hate Blair&Bush & don't believe U.S.military reports. What do you know about the Lebanese Civil War? Your home country used to be one of the world's most tolerant,free&peaceful nations. Children of all faiths could be living peacefully playing X-box in Lebanon today if the PLO, Iran's Hesbollah, &other Islamic Militias hadn't turned the country into a battleground. We're currently trying to establish a stable Iraq. Y side with the Iranian theocratic government that helped destroy Lebanon?

[Halomaster7]

I dont hate anyone. I hate their policies of death and destruction. And the wars and problems didnt start in the Middle East when the Islamic Revolution happened in Iran. Before the establishment of Israel the Middle East lived in relative peace as the world fought their wars. Only after foreign powers through colonialism and imperialism began did these problems occur. To blame the problems on the Iran is quite ignorant. Or than again thats what Bush and Blair want you to say.

[saintlysecretions]

Looks to me like Halomaster7 is teaching us all again about middle eastern culture's utter lack of even the most rudimentary respect for truth. Asking people who have been to Iran what is going on there is not espionage! Will the world miss Halomaster7's culture?

[Halomaster7]

Clearly people like you have no respect for international law and will by any argument the anti-Iranian camp will give you. Watch the video again! He says they were spying on Iran in the buffer zone. They strayed into Iranian waters and were captured. And actually people are attracted to the culture I promote because it is not based on lies, ignorance, and utter lack of direspect that you promote. Clearly the world will not miss your breed when they are no more.

[MarquisdeBarrabas]

He's just pissed that everything turned for the better.

[truthadvocate]

Many Iranians tend to be against any Western military forces being deployed in Muslim countries. We found Iranian IEDs within Iraq that killed our troops. We know the insurgents are being supported by some Iranians (possibly within their government) so of course Britain would want to patrol the International waters surrounding Iraq, & observe "Iranian activities" in those waters to stop more weapons from entering Iraq & killing our soldiers. What part don't you understand?

[Halomaster7]

The evidence is clearly not there. This is just an excuse by Blair and Bush to put there failed war policy blame on the Iranians. They showed a few RPG's and some explosives and said that this is from Iran. Do they think that people are dumbasses after there lies to get us in the war in the first place?

[Twopillows]

yeah, this video has nothing to do with the current situation. They say they're right next to the buffer zone bording ships that have been robbed by Iranian military. This guy doesn't look anything like the other cats in the "welcome home" videos.

[Halomaster7]

He is not one of the sailors. He is the captain of the fleet that the Iranians captured.

[mingoi313]

With all due respect, it seems your observational faculties do not serve you well, the man clearly said "AND Iranian activities." To further strengthen that position, SKY News clearly mentioned that after consulatation with the MOD, they decided to hold on to this report until their release, because it would have compromised the safety of the sailors. I think that is sufficient evidence.

[sourenaair]

o really I see what coolition forcres did in Gunatanamo and Abu Ghuraib. They were not insulted by the way

[KhanShehar]

oh so ud have liked iran better if they'd killed them rite? thats the dummest logic ive ever heard. who the fuk cares about insults, the imp. thing is that at least they're alive.

[Halomaster7]

Obviously its not going to specifically be mentioned that they are gathering intel on Iran. They say we are doing something else like stop piracy. Its a cover to there spy activities.

[uterfan]

I agree with you! ...and why do british always have to look like pigs?

[truthadvocate]

Based on what evidence? Go back to your Halo world and stop pretending you know anything about a British hostage situation on the other side of the the real world.

[Halomaster7]

Based on the evidence in the video. Did you watch it or pay any attention to what he said?

[Twopillows]

truthadvocate were you there or something? Were you a British captive? Iranian military maybe? Or did you just watch a newscast and read a magazine and now you're a certified expert.

[Twopillows]

They didn't say crap about area 51 either. I would hope they atleast would tell us who shot Kennedy.