don't bother with Hunchbacked, he will not answer a direct question or acknowledge anything factual. He actually blocked me during a polite discussion over PROOF, when I mentioned the Surveyor-3 camera the gloves came off and the name calling started, don't waste your time, he has no proof but will happily ignore any historical facts you may present, without evidence BTW, that's his hoaxer M.O.
@hunchbacked yes, yes, this is an older post you stumbled upon belatedly, that was very gracious of you to unblock me BTW, thanks again for being polite.
That computer is indeed a digital computer. High speed loops (gyro stabilization) were analogue, but guidance was digital. On the ground were mainframes and radio ranging, in the ship was the AGC (the computer), and also in the ship was a essentially a sextant that was used to align the guidance platform. Embedded systems are different, you can do a lot with very little processing power. You can take a 2 MHz machine and get response to input in under 5 microseconds (easily). No GUI.
yes that happened no doubt russians and other nations have lots of observations radios or opticals to check that it really happened....but the most amazing is that the apollo computer was having less power than a school calculator from today.
i love how people say we didn't land on the moon...all the "evidence" they point to has been explained. Now ufo's there are plenty of ufos that have not been explained there are many things that have not been explained....but apollo did happen
I can't believe that people would even WANT to believe that we faked the moon landing. i mean, we landed on the moon. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT?
and yes, we landed on the moon. ask the russians. now. go ask the russians if we landed on the moon RIGHT NOW.
@hunchbacked The tradeoff was more one of weight: The analog systems of that time were much lighter in weight than their digital counterparts. (It took a couple of decades to reverse the situation.) Because each pound carried aloft into space cost several thousand dollars in fuel, saving even a few pounds did matter.
The evidence of a hoax is crushing. I posted a partial summary of it on a science forum. To see it, google "The Naked Scientist". In the "New Theories" section there's a thread entitled "Did we land on the moon?". The post is on page 15. It's the 7th one from the top.
I am neutral about global warming, I have no definitive opinion about it, I just say I don't know, because the problem is extremely complicated, and it it is no more possible to say that there is no global warming than there is one.
But many proponents of the global warming are also Apollo believers, and they'll appreciate that you call them idiots.
I think it's clear there have been a warming in the climate, for some years, but so have there been many times before. But what cause it, if you look at the icecore, it's definitely not CO2. So why do we have these dogs barking about CO2 and global warming, for the reason these statist bark about all the other things ( now these statist assholes have found....fat as very bad, and their solution a tax ? what else ) for political reason, statism.
I don't have enough data to judge the global warming.
Ecologist predictors are not always right; I remember when they predicted in the seventies that within twenty years later the black forest (the forest near the border between Germany and France) would largely be devastated.
It did not happen.
If there is really a global warming or not, and if yes, what are its causes, is difficult to say.
But I believe in saving resources and not wasting them.
Funny, I have noticed that you stupid Moon landers, are in the same category as the global warming idiots, the 9/11 idiots, you all fail to accept it's part of government manipulation of you fools.
It's cool watching the footage of the mission control guys with their slide rules and cigarettes. It was all about having a strong mission vision with the nations best and brightest working on it and a nation / congress that had the patience and determination to make it happen. That was the great thing about the guys of that generation. They dreamed big and just DID IT. I hope the Apollo project will inspire the youth of today to go to college and make a difference like these great Americans did
You don't need an exceptionally powerful computer to go to the Moon or any solar system body. If all it has to do is run a planned program to navigate and handle some onboard systems, that doesn't require large amounts of computational ability.
Recording music/video and graphic arts sure eat up a lot of memory,. though!
Hell, Buzz Aldrin used a sextant to navigate on the Gemini 12 mission. He also used his brain. The most sophisticated computational mechanism of all!
Ofcourse it was not a hoax. Like it or not, Americans walked on the moon. All the socalled 'evidence' of hoaxpeople can be easily refuted if you know anything about science!
When you think about it yes it was amazing they got to the moon with such primitive technology.
But they didn't need a GUI also keep in mind the NASA of 1969 was far less risk adverse then the NASA of today.
They even took more risks then the Soviets did.
As for why the Soviets lost the moon race it's because they lost Korelev before the N1 could be fixed and they tried to cut corners but omitting a test stand for the N1 first stage and instead opted for all up testing.
Stelio dear, Just because mom frequently made you injest the contents of your overloaded diaper as a todler dosn't give you insight to events past or present.
I could go on about how we did infact go to the moon but I think my time (as well as yours) would be better spent having me recount tales of your history, of course I will also delve into the current situation as well.
Nice comment. But please keep fighting hoaxers. After all the comments i have seen i have noticed that the hoaxers are the ones who does not know anything about the moon travels. I am bit of an expert and know every apollo mission by heart. And I am 16.
Just wondering were you are getting your information. I guess from the scientists etc. . You can't have it both ways - the reason we know its 238000 miles is because Nasa told us it is. U cant quote Nasa as being correct and the next they are not reliable and lying/faking something else. - also the shuttle may be stuck in LEO however regularly clocks up millions of miles per mission.
...I think the top 6 Apollo story books would be 1) "Angle of Attack" by Mike Grey, 2)"Stages to Saturn" by Roger Bilstein, 3)"Gateway to the Moon" and 4)"Moon Launch"-both by Charles D. Benson and William B. Faherty (both books can also be found as a single book called Moonport:A history of Apollo Launch facilities and operations), "Saturn" by Alan Lawrie with Robert Godwin. 6)"Apollo:the epic journey to the moon" by D.W.Reynolds. And of course any of the biography books about Wernher Von Braun
I remember when this was considered incredible....before Apollo (1960) there were no Digital displays of any type, computers had tubes and were typically interfaced by hand fed punch cards (no keyboards),only large business(banks, accounting firms or the like) could afford them and they were typically the dimensions of small cars. By 1969 Apollo technology relied on Intergrated chips 1/20th the size of pencil erasers...the state of the art moved ahead a thousandfold in 10 short years.
Hi Kezz...without a doubt they went.Being bombarded by the many conspiracies it might seem easy to believe them however the truth is the Soviets would do or say anything to win the propaganda war (i.e. cold war/space race),after all-whichever country pulls off the greatest feats will be held in the highest esteem.When we first orbited the moon and eventually landed,the Soviets were devastated because thier scientists clearly knew we actually did it-even our enemy acknowledged it really happened.
..As far as going into any of the mind boggling details regarding the Apollo program I would suggest perhaps 6 different books (to start) which help show that going to the moon was far more complex then what most people can comprehend in this present day. These people invented,tested and through incredible effort actually advanced the state of the art far more then any other time in history...
agreed mightysaturn , the Soviets would of loved nothing better than to embarrass NASA by proving they faked it , therefore they knew amercia had the capability which is why they handed over two badges belonging to two cosmonauts who died in their own missions , these were placed on the lunar surface as a mark of respect by buzz aldrin i think.
do some research in the subject and make up your own mind. When we left earth is a great serie wich consists of three episodes. I suggest you watch it
don't bother with Hunchbacked, he will not answer a direct question or acknowledge anything factual. He actually blocked me during a polite discussion over PROOF, when I mentioned the Surveyor-3 camera the gloves came off and the name calling started, don't waste your time, he has no proof but will happily ignore any historical facts you may present, without evidence BTW, that's his hoaxer M.O.
1MtnBoy 3 months ago
@1MtnBoy
I did not block you intentionally, and I unblocked you when I realized I had accidentally blocked you.
If I wanted to block Apollo believers, I would block plenty of them, and I would start with the very delusional ApolloWasReal (who calls me a psycho).
On the other side, I have been blocked by several Apollo believers (Serpico, and BlisterHiker, to name some), and it was totally intentional.
hunchbacked 1 month ago
@hunchbacked yes, yes, this is an older post you stumbled upon belatedly, that was very gracious of you to unblock me BTW, thanks again for being polite.
1MtnBoy 1 month ago
That computer is indeed a digital computer. High speed loops (gyro stabilization) were analogue, but guidance was digital. On the ground were mainframes and radio ranging, in the ship was the AGC (the computer), and also in the ship was a essentially a sextant that was used to align the guidance platform. Embedded systems are different, you can do a lot with very little processing power. You can take a 2 MHz machine and get response to input in under 5 microseconds (easily). No GUI.
dale116dot7 1 year ago 2
yes that happened no doubt russians and other nations have lots of observations radios or opticals to check that it really happened....but the most amazing is that the apollo computer was having less power than a school calculator from today.
olivierbren 1 year ago
i love how people say we didn't land on the moon...all the "evidence" they point to has been explained. Now ufo's there are plenty of ufos that have not been explained there are many things that have not been explained....but apollo did happen
the earth is not flat
and the earth is not hollow
and no...nazis arent heros....
Isuckatpaintball2 1 year ago
I can't believe that people would even WANT to believe that we faked the moon landing. i mean, we landed on the moon. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT?
and yes, we landed on the moon. ask the russians. now. go ask the russians if we landed on the moon RIGHT NOW.
kargaroc386 1 year ago
@kargaroc386
I just rang Russia to ask if it was fake, they said "who the fuck is this and how did you get my number".
Tekjammin 1 year ago
@Tekjammin
LOL
I don't need to call anyone. We went to the Moon, six times.
Rob260259 1 year ago
@Rob260259
Just a joke dude, i'm not one of the crazies :)
Tekjammin 1 year ago
@Tekjammin
I know. That's why I wrote 'LOL'.
Rob260259 1 year ago
In fact the AGC couldn't guide the space ship all by itself, it was not powerful enough to do all the guiding alone.
An analog computer was doing most of the job; only analog computers were efficient enough to guide planes and space ships at that time.
Digital computers only were of secondary help.
hunchbacked 1 year ago
@hunchbacked The tradeoff was more one of weight: The analog systems of that time were much lighter in weight than their digital counterparts. (It took a couple of decades to reverse the situation.) Because each pound carried aloft into space cost several thousand dollars in fuel, saving even a few pounds did matter.
JimShew2 1 year ago
@JimShew2
I agree, in that time analog electronics was much more advanced than digital electronics.
Analog electronics was mature whereas digital electronics was still a baby.
hunchbacked 1 year ago
RELAX, the hoaxers are members of the flat earth society.
alphayear 2 years ago 23
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The evidence of a hoax is crushing. I posted a partial summary of it on a science forum. To see it, google "The Naked Scientist". In the "New Theories" section there's a thread entitled "Did we land on the moon?". The post is on page 15. It's the 7th one from the top.
Cosmored3 2 years ago
What evidence is that? The same old rehashed claims CT/HB throw out there every so often? It's all been debunked time and time again.
sardoniclysane 2 years ago
@alphayear i would like to take them to the moon!
Doctor699 1 year ago
@Doctor699 Yeah, I put the hoaxers in the same category as the global warming idiots.
alphayear 1 year ago
@alphayear ya
larrycpo 6 months ago
@alphayear
I am neutral about global warming, I have no definitive opinion about it, I just say I don't know, because the problem is extremely complicated, and it it is no more possible to say that there is no global warming than there is one.
But many proponents of the global warming are also Apollo believers, and they'll appreciate that you call them idiots.
hunchbacked 1 month ago
@hunchbacked
I think it's clear there have been a warming in the climate, for some years, but so have there been many times before. But what cause it, if you look at the icecore, it's definitely not CO2. So why do we have these dogs barking about CO2 and global warming, for the reason these statist bark about all the other things ( now these statist assholes have found....fat as very bad, and their solution a tax ? what else ) for political reason, statism.
kennjohnsen 1 month ago
@hunchbacked
Pier Corbyn is a weather forecaster, and agrees that global warming is invented for people manipulation.
kennjohnsen 1 month ago
@kennjohnsen
It is possible.
I don't have enough data to judge the global warming.
Ecologist predictors are not always right; I remember when they predicted in the seventies that within twenty years later the black forest (the forest near the border between Germany and France) would largely be devastated.
It did not happen.
If there is really a global warming or not, and if yes, what are its causes, is difficult to say.
But I believe in saving resources and not wasting them.
hunchbacked 1 month ago
@alphayear
Funny, I have noticed that you stupid Moon landers, are in the same category as the global warming idiots, the 9/11 idiots, you all fail to accept it's part of government manipulation of you fools.
kennjohnsen 1 month ago
It's cool watching the footage of the mission control guys with their slide rules and cigarettes. It was all about having a strong mission vision with the nations best and brightest working on it and a nation / congress that had the patience and determination to make it happen. That was the great thing about the guys of that generation. They dreamed big and just DID IT. I hope the Apollo project will inspire the youth of today to go to college and make a difference like these great Americans did
Synthetrix 2 years ago 2
You don't need an exceptionally powerful computer to go to the Moon or any solar system body. If all it has to do is run a planned program to navigate and handle some onboard systems, that doesn't require large amounts of computational ability.
Recording music/video and graphic arts sure eat up a lot of memory,. though!
Hell, Buzz Aldrin used a sextant to navigate on the Gemini 12 mission. He also used his brain. The most sophisticated computational mechanism of all!
El135o 3 years ago 2
Ofcourse it was not a hoax. Like it or not, Americans walked on the moon. All the socalled 'evidence' of hoaxpeople can be easily refuted if you know anything about science!
HOAX: RIP
dopje31857 3 years ago 5
It was not a hoax.
AcePilot101 3 years ago 21
nop
larrycpo 6 months ago
@AcePilot101
Yes it was.
If this junk flew to the moon, then I am the pope.
hunchbacked 1 month ago
When you think about it yes it was amazing they got to the moon with such primitive technology.
But they didn't need a GUI also keep in mind the NASA of 1969 was far less risk adverse then the NASA of today.
They even took more risks then the Soviets did.
As for why the Soviets lost the moon race it's because they lost Korelev before the N1 could be fixed and they tried to cut corners but omitting a test stand for the N1 first stage and instead opted for all up testing.
Membrane556 3 years ago
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anyone who believes that they actually travelled 250,000 miles to the moon is a looney
stelioshajiioannou 3 years ago
Stelio dear, Just because mom frequently made you injest the contents of your overloaded diaper as a todler dosn't give you insight to events past or present.
I could go on about how we did infact go to the moon but I think my time (as well as yours) would be better spent having me recount tales of your history, of course I will also delve into the current situation as well.
MightySaturn5 3 years ago
Nice comment. But please keep fighting hoaxers. After all the comments i have seen i have noticed that the hoaxers are the ones who does not know anything about the moon travels. I am bit of an expert and know every apollo mission by heart. And I am 16.
joachim2464 3 years ago 2
Stelio - Tell me how you know the moon is 250 000 miles away.
pokedatwithastick070 3 years ago
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Actually it is 238,000 miles away.
The furthest any manned mission has gone is 250 miles up quite a bit of difference.
I realise some of you guys are still hooked on the NASA fairy tale, but look at the evidence you will soon realise it is all a pack of lies.
stelioshajiioannou 3 years ago
What 'evidence' is that, Stelio? You hoaxers have been debunked years ago and many, many times. Every piece of your 'evidence' has been shot to bits.
Please drop the hoax garbage. It's a waste of time, because you're fighting truth, and you've already lost.
El135o 3 years ago
Just wondering were you are getting your information. I guess from the scientists etc. . You can't have it both ways - the reason we know its 238000 miles is because Nasa told us it is. U cant quote Nasa as being correct and the next they are not reliable and lying/faking something else. - also the shuttle may be stuck in LEO however regularly clocks up millions of miles per mission.
pokedatwithastick070 2 years ago
You're a condescending little prick, aren't you?
"look at the evidence"
As if you are the supremely correct lord of the universe. Fuck off, cocksucker.
youvebeenthunderstru 2 years ago
...I think the top 6 Apollo story books would be 1) "Angle of Attack" by Mike Grey, 2)"Stages to Saturn" by Roger Bilstein, 3)"Gateway to the Moon" and 4)"Moon Launch"-both by Charles D. Benson and William B. Faherty (both books can also be found as a single book called Moonport:A history of Apollo Launch facilities and operations), "Saturn" by Alan Lawrie with Robert Godwin. 6)"Apollo:the epic journey to the moon" by D.W.Reynolds. And of course any of the biography books about Wernher Von Braun
MightySaturn5 3 years ago
I remember when this was considered incredible....before Apollo (1960) there were no Digital displays of any type, computers had tubes and were typically interfaced by hand fed punch cards (no keyboards),only large business(banks, accounting firms or the like) could afford them and they were typically the dimensions of small cars. By 1969 Apollo technology relied on Intergrated chips 1/20th the size of pencil erasers...the state of the art moved ahead a thousandfold in 10 short years.
MightySaturn5 4 years ago
did they go or did they not?
kezzysupa 3 years ago
lol...where do I begin
MightySaturn5 3 years ago
dont know. im prob just a sceptic. please tell me.
kezzysupa 3 years ago
Hi Kezz...without a doubt they went.Being bombarded by the many conspiracies it might seem easy to believe them however the truth is the Soviets would do or say anything to win the propaganda war (i.e. cold war/space race),after all-whichever country pulls off the greatest feats will be held in the highest esteem.When we first orbited the moon and eventually landed,the Soviets were devastated because thier scientists clearly knew we actually did it-even our enemy acknowledged it really happened.
MightySaturn5 3 years ago
..As far as going into any of the mind boggling details regarding the Apollo program I would suggest perhaps 6 different books (to start) which help show that going to the moon was far more complex then what most people can comprehend in this present day. These people invented,tested and through incredible effort actually advanced the state of the art far more then any other time in history...
MightySaturn5 3 years ago
agreed mightysaturn , the Soviets would of loved nothing better than to embarrass NASA by proving they faked it , therefore they knew amercia had the capability which is why they handed over two badges belonging to two cosmonauts who died in their own missions , these were placed on the lunar surface as a mark of respect by buzz aldrin i think.
grumpyguts1967 3 years ago
do some research in the subject and make up your own mind. When we left earth is a great serie wich consists of three episodes. I suggest you watch it
joachim2464 3 years ago
I love all this old computer technology. Great stuff
OOPSIEOOPSIE 4 years ago 3
Awesome...
: )
targa911sc 4 years ago