i dont get how some of u immature people would make stupid comments on here if u dont like what their doing then dont freakin look at up and watch it get a life!!!
Another example: Marine parks were made (especially in Florida) No fishing of any kind is allowed in the parks. This was originally controversial due to the ease of fish migrations and pelagic species. However surprisingly the fishing outside the parks has improved many many many times more, including many pelagic species that only travel through and dont stay. Some species like the goliath grouper have recovered twice as fast as expected.
I will give an example. American alligator was highly endangered and facing extinction. All hunting was banned. Several parks were set up where they could NEVER be hunted as well. Later as populations increased (mostly in these parks) they migrated into surrounding areas. Very strict hunting controlls were then allowed. (but not in parks). Now there is a wise and sustainable hunt every year and the American Alligator is no longer endangered! It was removed from the list in 1987.
Here is where you are wrong. It is legal for the Sea Shepard to try and interfere with Whaling in the conservation zone. The UN resolution gives them that right and even duty. However it is illegal for them to board a Japanese ship to do that. They also use other methods that are illegal to a lessor extent. In Canadian or Japanese waters or outside of the conservation sanctuary, they would not even be allowed to interfere at all.
@rosepetal108 No, the UN resolution doesn't give them that right/duty. Read the resolution again, and read *about* it some more. It either gives them the right to interfere both inside and out of the conservation zone (if Watson is to be believed), or neither (if following precedent). (I say neither.)
@NRen2k5 The UN resolution has not been tested in world court with respect to a Sanctuary in international waters. However legal experts all agree...national law superceeds.(Watson looses)
In international waters..in a conservation zone...with no national laws to superceed....there is a very good chance Watson could win.
@rosepetal108 I disagree that the resolution really needs to be tested wrt an international sanctuary; the resolution doesn't specifically mention sanctuaries. I think Watson can only "win" the way he is now - just preventing the Japanese from definitively winning.
@NRen2k5 Back to earlier comment. See if you dont agree that a sanctuary is a place of "special protection"
3. All areas of the earth, both land and sea, shall be subject to these principles of conservation; special protection shall be given to unique areas, to representative samples of all the different types of ecosystems and to the habitat of rare or endangered species.
"An additional factor raised is that the catches take place within the Southern Ocean Sanctuary declared by the IWC in 1994 (to which Japan lodged an objection with respect to minke whales). If a Sanctuary is in place, it can be argued that information on improving management of whaling in that region is unnecessary. On many occasions, the Commission has (by majority vote) passed a Resolution urging Japan not to issue a permit for these catches."
@rosepetal108 The commission review is broken, circular logic. Japan had already pointed out years prior that the Sanctuary was unnecessary for minke and was not based on science.
What is it with you people. "At least they're doing something", as if that's all that matters.Talk about featherweight thinking! How about "something productive"? How about "something worthwhile"?
The only success these geek squad rejects have is when their childish lies are believed by you non-thinking but "oh, so feeling" twelve year olds.
Hitler "did" something. Hitler "stood" for something.
Jeez, are you people so addicted to "warm and fuzzie's" that you are incapable of thought?
This show is such a joke,, pure comedy. Nothing more than some libtard wanna-be terrorists making themselves and their emo lifestyles look stupider than they are.
Would love to see the japs put them all on the bottom of the ocean!
I know You guys have to and so does other amials but the way you kill them is ....,
Pretty cruel , dont you think so ? I ( Japanese and other whale lover ) Do kill whales to eat mostly , and do not waste the body We use even bones and stuff.
white people used to kill it for the purpose of Whale oil ... But We didnt.
listen to Japanese people and read history please ! We know how to treat mother nature especially in FISH
Lol It's not cruel at all to kill kangaroos. People everywhere else in the world(that aren't living in Australia), See roos as cute little harmless animals... when everyone in Australia KNOW they're pests. There's more kangaroos in Australia than there are people, so shut the fuck up. And most kangaroos are used for their skins and meat. Kangaroo Jerky is among the best meat I've ever tasted. Not to mention how soft this roo pelt is that's sitting on the end of my bed.
@20012607 Don't know where the kangaroo thing started but the contrast here is that whales are not exactly renowned for being either overabundant OR pests. Quite the opposite actually...
They are the stupid sinners.I know they are the descendants of prisoners from Australia.During eating whale meat I feel happiness.Japanese ships must be changed from normal ship to battle ship to remove dust on the sea.
But I can't understand the logic of the Sea Shepherds crew. I mean they board ILLEGALY whaling boats and then contact locale authorities, because their crewmembers are held back on that boat ILLEGALY? Comeon, What kind of logic is that? They break laws to end another law breaking industry. Well it's not even a law, because whaling to a decent extend is legal.
I think its OK to chase them and videotape every action that boat is doing. But boarding boats, no.
@spille1234 In the end this is not about legality for either side. If the whalers could whale legally they would not need nor have the research signs, and if the Sea Shepherds could just sink the whaling ships then they would. But international law does play a part in that neither side wants to be in direct conflict with the UN (the single most powerful organization in the history of the world) and as a result tries to be relatively well behaved (in the eyes of the world at least).
@OnewhoWonders1 That maybe, but the Sea Shepard is very close to piracy any farther would get their asses either in jail or sunk by a navy. Which should happen cause its international waters where know one has a right to take a navy ship after the whalers.
Let’s make a deal Mr Watson, according to one of your members SSCS is now out the business of protesting the Canadian Seal Hunt. We what all references and untruths relating to the Canadian Seal Hunt REMOVED from the SSCS web page and products by August 30, 2010.
AUSTRALIANS KILL KANGAROOS BECAUSE THEY'RE PESTS!!! THERE ARE MORE KANGAROOS THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE IN AUSTRALIA YOU DIPSHIT!! YOU QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. JAPS ARE KILLING ENDANGERED SPECIES OF WHALES WHILE HIDING BEHIND THE SIGN OF RESEARCH. NOT TO MENTION KILLING THEM IN A WHALE SANCTUARY, WHERE WHALES ARE PROTECTED!!!! FUCK YOU.
@Sukiyakimelody No, I was talking about how I replied to a comment you made earlier about roos, and then you came back with that totally irrelevant comment...
YOU PEOPLE ARE MINDLESS! These whales have feelings and thank you Paul watson for saving 528 whales this year. You guys that think whaling is fine, try watching whale wars on animal planet. These GENTLE GIANTS HAVE EMOTIONS JUST LIKE HUMANS! This was not a waste of money. This is my opinion and you may have your opinionbut you know what, These people are my heros, my idols. They risked there lives for these whales and all you guys care about is we should just keep killing these endangerd whales.
@RingetteLoVeR1 All creatures even plants have feelings, but we can't do anything but eat them to survive and be healthy. If these whales are feeding thousands of people, then that's a great thing in my opinion.
@RingetteLoVeR1 Ya and wasted how many whales already caught? Dumb batards don't realize that by letting the meat go bad they aren't cutting into any profits. All it does is make the whalers have to kill more whales because of these dumb asses stopping them. I hope that Paul Watson burns for eternity for being a terrorist. I suppose you will comment back and tell me you are going to join the taliban. You would be just a mindless to be involved with either one.
Paul Watson is not a terrorist though. If he was, he wouldn't be able to have a television show broadcasted worldwide...he certainly wouldn't be able to take donations for his actions either. he's just a genius, incredible naturalist. Plus, the japs have a quota. they can only KILL so many whales. so, if the sea shepherds waste their meat, the japs can't make any profit off of it. so if the whalers had a quota of 800 whales, they can't kill any more than 800 just bcuz they went bad.duh
What the hell does the FBI have to do with it anyways? they must just be kissin the Jap's asses... FBI's never done anything about them down there, and no-one else has besides the Jap WHALING FLEET. No government has really ever gotten involved while the Sea Shepherds were working.
Japanese people know in the U.S. that tens of thousands of cows are killed and the kangaroo is killed tens of thousands of animals in Australia.
However, Japanese people do not take refuge from the gastronomic culture of a foreign country, or do not deny. It is because it does not think that one are the rightest.
@Sukiyakimelody Too bad the cows here aren't on the Endangered List and never will be you guys are probably just jealous of someone with more control over a situation. The Japanese are losing money they should just GIVE UP
@D200SAX I don't dislike Americans at all, I have many american friends and loved living there for 2 years, but when discussing pollution, etc. It would be a decisively wrong to assume that I'm american.
@WeMakeGuides - wow, you're saying the problem with sinking a large ship full of people is that it would be bad for the environment ?? really? you don't see anything else wrong with that? maybe you don't belong in society anymore.
They cannot throw their bottles of shit on the whalers boats because of nets and water hoses yet they have a helicopter. Fill the copter full of the shit and dump it on the whalers boats..all of their boats..........
Bunch of idiots on a ship, committing piracy, and causing alot of damage to the environment then the people they're fighting they ram their ship into other ships bigger then them the debris from that ramming goes into the ocean, the acid products they throw at the ships get swept off boards into the ocean,Captain needs his license deprived for putting his crew in mortal danger, And PAUL WATSON makes quite a bit of money exploiting it, if both these ship sink the we'd have 2 problems gone
Sea Shepard is strongly backed up by the PM of Aus. Russ. Russ, a mandarine speaker, has been working for China for long term. This program was made for creating anti-Japanese sentiment in the world.
Oh, this is a shit program for disseminating a cause of Freemason: To save the earth, reduce the world population to 500 million. Global warming and anti-Whaling movements are being promoted by people sitting in a warm room and sometimes going out to hunt deers for fun. lol
Don't fool yourself people, they make a television program, collect a lot of money and make themselves out to be "heros" within a circle of environmental advocates that include famous people like Daryl Hanna - but they have not and will not stop whaling. They talk a big game - but it's all a self serving perpetual cycle that leads to more whaling and more television shows. You want to stop whaling you put Japan's whaling fleet on the ocean floor - period, end of story!!!
@Tronor123 .They are cowardly but not stupid.They know they would get thier arses kicked if these were Norwigian fishermen.They have pick the Japanese cause they would show alot of restraint and to work on peoples raical fears aswell.
@yamato714 the funny part of that episode is how they were actully serious. LOl these guys use stink bombs as their most agressive tactics and think their badass... i think that this show is such a joke.
"US State Department Forcibly Opposes Japanese Whaling"
"The US has forcefully expressed opposition to Japans scientific whaling program. The US supports the moratorium banning commercial whaling adopted by the IWC in effect since 1986 and opposes Japanese whaling"
-Richard Boucher
Spokesperson
Undersecretary for Public Affairs
WASHINGTON DC
UNITED STATES DEPT of STATE
[Any US citizen siding with Foreign whalers are traitors Against their own nation]
SEASHEPHERD crew includes U.S. & INTL LAW ENFORCEMENT, SSCS staff includes U.S. FEDERAL AGENTS.
SSCS is Authorized for Law Enforcement at Sea under U.N.WCFN Sec (e) et Seq. Intl Law.
WHALE WARS SEASHEPHERD Crew includes United States Military NAVY trained Surface Warfare experts & honored IRAQ WAR VETERANS onboard SeaShepherd vessels.
Paul Watson is a MERCHANT MARINE, and former COAST GUARD Officer.
SEASHEPHERD Crew member D. KEHOE is a U.S. POLICE FORCE OFFICER.
WHALE MEAT FOUND TO CAUSE IRREVERSIBLE BRAIN DAMAGE
Mercury, a potent neuro-toxin, has now been shown to cause irreversible neurological damage. Severe cases resulted in Coma or Death.
Even in Low concentrations, scientists found that mercury causes damage to the nervous system, children are even more at risk. Exposure to methylmercury may be irreversible & can cause developmental brain problems.
EIA Chemical analysis has shown high levels in both whale & dolphin products
"Whale meat consumed in Norway may contain some of the world's most dangerous toxins."
"A recent analysis of whale meat purchased in Norwegian markets turned up more than 50 PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls) including chemicals that cause hormonal imbalance."
It may cause an increase in cancer, affect the immune system & reduce mens sperm. Eating Whale meat is putting themselves & their children at risk" reported Norwegian Officials.
Why do you people look down on them? At LEAST they're out there, in the water, with a boat and dedicated crew. You need to realise that they stand for something, and I applaud their dedication.
@Opus626 Well maybe we should feel sorry for them instead? I mean seriously, what they stand for is a load of bull. They're hunting in Australian waters? Bull. Minke whales are endangered? Bull. They typically take more than half an hour to die from the harpoons? Bull. The hunt is illegal? Bull. Sea Shepherd has the law on their side in trying to stop it? Guess what, ALSO BULL!!
@rosepetal108 They're hunting whales inside the SOWS? True. They're also following the rules of the SOWS.
They're allowed to issue permits to themselves? True.
Minke whales are a threatened species? FALSE. The minke species is listed by the IUCN as Least Concern, and the antarctic population group is listed as Data Deficient.
The hunt is illegal? FALSE. Some IWC countries would like to make it illegal but currently it's not.
I will start with a basic outline. feel free to ask for more detailed explanations (one at a time).
Japan formally objected to SOWS and therefore doesn't follow SOWS rules.
The Permits Japan issues for itself are subject to review by IWC rules. During these reviews Japan was cited many times for breaking SOWS and urged to stop.
CITES lists Minke's as Appendix I (threatened)
There is some research, but that issue is far from resolved.
SS authority is by UN resolution and legally binding
@rosepetal108 Almost right. Japan doesn't *have to* abide by SOWS rules *wrt minke* because they filed an objection wrt minke.
Who cares about IWC wagging their finger at Japan? IWC's creation of the SOWS was illegal and the IWC is toothless anyway.
CITES lists minke as Appendix I for political reasons - to try to give the IWC some teeth. This is why I trust IUCN more than CITES - because IUCN is less corrupted by politics.
@NRen2k5 Correct! All IWC resolutions are voluntary. Any Nation can object or simply leave the IWC. They can also ignore IWC completely since IWC has no provision for enforcement. Japan ignored IWC for years and years and damn near exterminated many whale species from the face of the earth.
Want to try that again? Or would you like to try entering the modern world and act wise?
PS IUCN is toothless as well. Thats the real reason you like?
@NRen2k5 Clearly you dont understand how UN WCN affects international law. The Southern Ocean Whale sanctuary is in international waters. Therefore it is not superceeded by Canadian law. There is a difference. Sea Shepards are well aware of the difference which is most likely the reason they have chosen this issue.
I agree, however it is the Japanese whalers who are using circular logic. Very sad that Japan is backwards nation and has no understanding of modern conservation methods
@rosepetal108 No, clearly, you're just swallowing Sea Shepherd's tripe. Flagged ships in international waters are treated as small pieces of the nation which they're flagged under, so just exchange Canadian law for Japanese law here. What Sea Shepherd's taking advantage of is the difficulty Japan has in arresting their crew. See Pete Bethune's case for proof of both of these points.
No rebuttal about the Japanese being the ones using circular logic - you're just being a jackass again.
@NRen2k5 LOL Now who is talking tripe? I am US Merchant Marine. I am well aware of the laws concerning Flagged vessels. Where they apply and where they don't apply. I would venture to say I know a fair bit more than you do on this issue of flagged vessels. Pete Bethune boarded illegally. He is stupid idiot for this. If he had of allowed himself to be rescued by the Shonan Maru he could have made a case in international law and probably won. But Bethune was idiot.
@rosepetal108 Fair enough, you know more than me. But you didn't say where I'm wrong.
I agree about Bethune. He was an idiot and/or a patsy. I have to admit, I kind of like the guy, though. When he spoke out against Sea Shepherd recently, it opened some people's eyes. I personally know some people on Facebook who went from being SS supporters to SS critics when what he said echoed what I had been saying for months.
@NRen2k5 Are you sure you want me to publically post Japanese whaling history here? My purpose is not to embarrass Japan about past failures. I sure don't want to help the radical Vegans. It is very embarrasing for the Japanese.
I think it is better that we discuss how to defeat the Sea Shepards and allow Japan to whale. The issue is how to allow Japan to whale and still follow conservation methods.
@rosepetal108 The solution is dead simple, really: Get the IWC to admit that Japan's right and change or lift the moratorium, at least as far as it applies to minke. In the meantime, the non-solution right now is at least workable for the Japanese. If the anti-whaling faction in the IWC gets any more belligerent or ridiculous, Japan can just plain leave, and I would cheer for them.
In any case, things may get interesting again this year, with JCG officers on the whaling ships again.
@NRen2k5 Japan will continue ignoring wisdom? It only makes Sea Shepards stronger. You should take some wisdom, if you are forced to fight you have already lost. The best solution is to take your quota of southern minkes when they migrate outside the Sanctuary. Watson gets no TV show, Japan gets their whales, Since Japan has agreed to conservation zone the arguements in the IWC opposition are defeated. It is a much better strategy.
@rosepetal108 Watson would still attack them outside the sanctuary. It eliminates the SOWS issues but leaves the issues of hunting minke and being attacked in international waters. In other words, Watson will still attack the whalers, only his justification for doing so will be slightly weakened.
@NRen2k5 Much more than slightly weaked. He uses UN resolution as justification for his breaking international navigation laws. However he can only do this as an environmental group acting on behalf of IWC conservation measures which Japan is breaking. Once Japan complies with the sanctuary, then the "research" is completely legal and the permit review is also compliant. Then Watson can be arrested anywhere in the world. He can no longer argue he is enforcing IWC resolutions.
@rosepetal108 Additionally there is another benefit. Japan is no longer seen as an outlaw nation with respect to whaling. This strengthens their diplomatic position in the attempt to remove the ban on species that are no longer endangered.
@rosepetal108 I doubt their image will change. People have already been tricked to believe so much misinformation about the antarctic whale hunt, I doubt that a change in the actual facts will even be much noticed.
@NRen2k5 You underestimate how many people don't like Radical Vegans. If you take away their basic ammunition their battle becomes untenable. For one, They have no footage for their show minimun one season. There goes a huge ammount of funding. He can lie all he wants..but with no show he wont be heard. Less funding means less ships harrasing and looking for the Japanese fleet. Migration routes are big, doubtful he could even find the fleet.
@rosepetal108 Sea Shepherd tends to get help finding the fleet. We'll see how the larger hunting grounds this year work against them. I don't think it would necessarily be the end of them.
@rosepetal108 A few problems with that understanding:
- Sea Shepherd can't be said to be acting on the IWC's behalf, even now - the IWC actually condemns their dangerous antics.
- Japan isn't breaking any conservation measures, they've very narrowly sneaked around them. Their research and permits and activities are perfectly legal; the IWC just grumbles because they're not within the spirit of the SOWS.
@NRen2k5 Actually like I said from the beginning when we started all this. Japans position for legality of whaling the Minkes inside the conservation zone is disputed at best. A case can be made for both sides.
Both Sea Shepards and Japanese whalers have been condemed in this little "war" they have. It will only get worse. The best way for Japan to win this war is to not fight it.
@rosepetal108 I disagree. I think the best way for Japan to win is to keep doing what they're doing right now: Keeping a record of Sea Shepherd's crimes, keep collecting more research as they whale, and keep fighting the antis in the IWC. The Japanese whalers aren't exactly being bankrupted by Sea Shepherd's activity, and as time goes on, the chances only rise of the ICR proving whaling sustainable, the IWC caving to the Japanese's demands, or Sea Shepherd shooting themselves in the head.
@NRen2k5 One problem with that strategy. Japan is still objecting to conservation measures. Be sure 100% no one will remove the moratorium as long as Japan refuses to accept the sanctuary. There could be 10 million Minkes and they will NOT remove the ban until Japan removes its objection to the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.
@NRen2k5 See this is the fundamental difference. Japan really doesn't understand the rest of the worlds conservation methods. Therefore people who would allow whaling but also create whaling free zones is a foreign concept to the Japanese.
For many other countries this is only common sense. It has been done sucessfully over and over to rescue many species, remove them from endangered list and then allow hunting.
@NRen2k5 Did you ever wonder why the rest of the world puts up with Sea Shepards idiots? No one likes their radical Vegan agenda. We in the United States laugh at them while eating a nice thick juicy steak. (Vegans don't believe in killing cows either)
@rosepetal108 (continued) The research issue will never be resolved as long as politics and emotions continue to motivate IWC members' voting and committees' decisions. The science is perfectly clear: There are hundreds of thousands of minke out there, which is enough to hunt on at least a limited basis.
The UN resolution you're talking about, the World Charter for Nature, is *not* legally binding, and Watson has known this since at least 1995. (continued)
@rosepetal108 (continued) Make that 1999... Watson was on trial in Canada for attacking several fishing vessels, and his defence was to admit that the WCN is not legally binding but that he sincerely thought at the time of the crime that it was, so he should be acquitted by "colour of right". He wasn't. In fact the judge specifically instructed the jury to keep in mind that the WCN is not law and that they were only supposed to consider whether he seriously believed it was.
@rosepetal108 The hunt is for scientific research? TRUE. ICR has dozens of papers published in peer reviewed journals. Some people pretend that the research doesn't exist or isn't useful, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists and validates the whaling as scientific.
Sea Shepherd has the law on their side? FALSE. They're a private org. with no law enforcement authority.
Sea Shepherd's tactics are legal? If you admit some aren't, then how can you say they have the law on their side?
@NRen2k5 The purpose of my post was to point out there are no angels in this controversy. Both sides have posted lies 1/2 truths and propaganda. However, would like like detailed analysis of these issues with quotes? (will take at least 10 posts probably) or just a general outline of the arguements?
i have been doing my job as a coral farmer to save the sealife and reefs cultivating and propagating corals to restore the reefs but i want to do more...i want to kill all those japanise people and sink all their ships !!! i offer me like a volunteer i can suicide my self to kill japanise or sink their ships who join me? or who need me? i can sacrifice myself to save a whale. im not afraid to die!!!
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Paul W says, "I would dearly love to send it to the bottom." & then they cut to him bowing and with his hands folded like in prayer. WTF This guy is an atheist. I've heard him talking & mocking religion in his speeches, so why this? Because it's all for the camera. These guys are no more than a PR machine for their contributers / donors & now their TV audience. Keep up the great work guys. We see the real you, no matter what you try to edit out. Your anarchists, radicals, & dangerous.
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why don't you just arm your vessel and sink the whalers, he stated he would dearly love to send to the bottom. Oh yeah cause then he would have a naval vessel blowing them out of the water.
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whales taste like beef, i have it roasted with soy sauce. I think it tastes better than beef though!i prefer thinking them as "cows of the ocean"... no offence
Anyone who talks shit about the Sea Shepherds should get harpooned with a fat dick. You all suck nuts and should die. Go whales! Fuck dirty Jap fishermen!
These guys fit the definition of "eco-terrorists" perfectly.
I can't wait till the whalers or japanese coast guard use deadly force on them when they start throwing chemicals and potentially deadly lubricious materials on the ships.
arrrrgghhh mayyytie swab the deck! all ye scallywags out there best not be whalin, or we be boarding your deck too!!! and yeah trees dont defend you against phsychopaths but they give us air to breath so we dont suffocate and die,
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a crew of stoner rich kids with no reason to live other than this. what about the animals in africa that get shot all the time. oh wait those pochers will shoot you and a boat is more comfortable. fucking hippies.
I applaud these Paul Watson and his efforts. Even though they are very much pushing the law I think it has to be done. In Africa they shoot to kill poachers who illegally kill elephants and other big game and the world applauds these hard line tactics, but for the worlds largest animals we don't care. I hope this eventually pushes governments to take more enforcing action against these murderers.
oh man, you moronic douchebags need to get your facts straight before saying anything bad about the Sea Shepherds because all you're doing is shitting on each others' faces.
I truly believe this tv show will do more harm to their cause than anything or anyone else. It shows their lies and distortions that they make up. It shows how careless the Captain is towards his crew and the whalers. "I would dearly love to send it to the bottom." Just great. Sink a ships with sailors on board in fridged waters. That's why this guy is DANGEROUS! And that's their intention...violence!
But if somoeone tried to sink his ship they would all cry and say "hey, that's not fair."
This is why weapons were made, turn them harpoon 90 degrees to port & starboard & give these fuckers something real to look at. They'll turn tail quick.
You throw chemicals to disorient the crew then board a ship, how is the fuck is that not the act of pirates....oh ya having a piece of paper...fucking hippies...
These people are criminals who illegally board anpother ship and start the fight by throwing toxic chemicals on their deck they should all be locked up in prison
i fully support what they do and i think its great that instead of sitting and complaining about it, they are actually doing something. i feel so bad for those whales. im so happy that the sea shepherds are trying to save those magnificent creatures. those japanese dont need to be killing the numbers of whales that they kill each year.
what the japs do is wrong....but this crew of pirate asshole has no right to sail the seas.the fat asshole captain doesn't have a nut in his sack. he is a piece of shit. he has no right doing what he does sending these stupid bunch of stoners with no at sea experience to do the things he has seen on a star wars movie. i hope the fuckin gooks kill all of them and sink his pirate homo stoner fat ass. even the green peace asshole kicked him out
i dont get how some of u immature people would make stupid comments on here if u dont like what their doing then dont freakin look at up and watch it get a life!!!
MzCsb602 9 months ago
God damn hippies!!!!
CrazyMunky84 9 months ago
Another example: Marine parks were made (especially in Florida) No fishing of any kind is allowed in the parks. This was originally controversial due to the ease of fish migrations and pelagic species. However surprisingly the fishing outside the parks has improved many many many times more, including many pelagic species that only travel through and dont stay. Some species like the goliath grouper have recovered twice as fast as expected.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
I will give an example. American alligator was highly endangered and facing extinction. All hunting was banned. Several parks were set up where they could NEVER be hunted as well. Later as populations increased (mostly in these parks) they migrated into surrounding areas. Very strict hunting controlls were then allowed. (but not in parks). Now there is a wise and sustainable hunt every year and the American Alligator is no longer endangered! It was removed from the list in 1987.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
Here is where you are wrong. It is legal for the Sea Shepard to try and interfere with Whaling in the conservation zone. The UN resolution gives them that right and even duty. However it is illegal for them to board a Japanese ship to do that. They also use other methods that are illegal to a lessor extent. In Canadian or Japanese waters or outside of the conservation sanctuary, they would not even be allowed to interfere at all.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 No, the UN resolution doesn't give them that right/duty. Read the resolution again, and read *about* it some more. It either gives them the right to interfere both inside and out of the conservation zone (if Watson is to be believed), or neither (if following precedent). (I say neither.)
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 The UN resolution has not been tested in world court with respect to a Sanctuary in international waters. However legal experts all agree...national law superceeds.(Watson looses)
In international waters..in a conservation zone...with no national laws to superceed....there is a very good chance Watson could win.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 I disagree that the resolution really needs to be tested wrt an international sanctuary; the resolution doesn't specifically mention sanctuaries. I think Watson can only "win" the way he is now - just preventing the Japanese from definitively winning.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Back to earlier comment. See if you dont agree that a sanctuary is a place of "special protection"
3. All areas of the earth, both land and sea, shall be subject to these principles of conservation; special protection shall be given to unique areas, to representative samples of all the different types of ecosystems and to the habitat of rare or endangered species.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
Commision review of science permits:
"An additional factor raised is that the catches take place within the Southern Ocean Sanctuary declared by the IWC in 1994 (to which Japan lodged an objection with respect to minke whales). If a Sanctuary is in place, it can be argued that information on improving management of whaling in that region is unnecessary. On many occasions, the Commission has (by majority vote) passed a Resolution urging Japan not to issue a permit for these catches."
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 The commission review is broken, circular logic. Japan had already pointed out years prior that the Sanctuary was unnecessary for minke and was not based on science.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
How retarded are you Opus? Cosa Nostra stands for something to, and they are just as dedicated. What a tard.
qb16raider 1 year ago
bullshit stop lying
fishersatsea 1 year ago
GUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! They work, trust me
Church104 1 year ago
where are the U-boat wolfpacks ;( when evil vegan hippies are running rampant.
Bassie123456 1 year ago
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Racist Australia and Japanese whaling
007ckb 1 year ago
What is it with you people. "At least they're doing something", as if that's all that matters.Talk about featherweight thinking! How about "something productive"? How about "something worthwhile"?
The only success these geek squad rejects have is when their childish lies are believed by you non-thinking but "oh, so feeling" twelve year olds.
Hitler "did" something. Hitler "stood" for something.
Jeez, are you people so addicted to "warm and fuzzie's" that you are incapable of thought?
kpdsza 1 year ago 2
If I ever go on a Sea Shepherd campaign, I will bring a 400mW laser with me.
catguy43 1 year ago
This video shoes me that the japanese are pissed that someone is showing them that they arent the superior race...
CAboi1atRobloxdotcom 1 year ago
instead of seashepards it should be THE SPECIAL EDS
woodsman513 1 year ago
@woodsman513 I pity you for thinking that is funny
8000cheese 1 year ago
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@8000chees you will get over it
woodsman513 1 year ago
@8000cheese I pity you for taking everything so literally.
theblackcomp111 1 year ago
This show is such a joke,, pure comedy. Nothing more than some libtard wanna-be terrorists making themselves and their emo lifestyles look stupider than they are.
Would love to see the japs put them all on the bottom of the ocean!
h20fwler1 1 year ago
Dear Australians KANGAROOS Killer
I know You guys have to and so does other amials but the way you kill them is ....,
Pretty cruel , dont you think so ? I ( Japanese and other whale lover ) Do kill whales to eat mostly , and do not waste the body We use even bones and stuff.
white people used to kill it for the purpose of Whale oil ... But We didnt.
listen to Japanese people and read history please ! We know how to treat mother nature especially in FISH
KENICHI1118 1 year ago
@KENICHI1118
Lol It's not cruel at all to kill kangaroos. People everywhere else in the world(that aren't living in Australia), See roos as cute little harmless animals... when everyone in Australia KNOW they're pests. There's more kangaroos in Australia than there are people, so shut the fuck up. And most kangaroos are used for their skins and meat. Kangaroo Jerky is among the best meat I've ever tasted. Not to mention how soft this roo pelt is that's sitting on the end of my bed.
20012607 1 year ago
@20012607 Don't know where the kangaroo thing started but the contrast here is that whales are not exactly renowned for being either overabundant OR pests. Quite the opposite actually...
OnewhoWonders1 1 year ago
@OnewhoWonders1
Holy fuck. When I was talking about 'overabundancy and pests', I was talking about the roos....I'm anti whaling...
20012607 1 year ago
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They are the stupid sinners.I know they are the descendants of prisoners from Australia.During eating whale meat I feel happiness.Japanese ships must be changed from normal ship to battle ship to remove dust on the sea.
lionkonig 1 year ago
First of all I'm against whaling.
But I can't understand the logic of the Sea Shepherds crew. I mean they board ILLEGALY whaling boats and then contact locale authorities, because their crewmembers are held back on that boat ILLEGALY? Comeon, What kind of logic is that? They break laws to end another law breaking industry. Well it's not even a law, because whaling to a decent extend is legal.
I think its OK to chase them and videotape every action that boat is doing. But boarding boats, no.
spille1234 1 year ago
@spille1234 In the end this is not about legality for either side. If the whalers could whale legally they would not need nor have the research signs, and if the Sea Shepherds could just sink the whaling ships then they would. But international law does play a part in that neither side wants to be in direct conflict with the UN (the single most powerful organization in the history of the world) and as a result tries to be relatively well behaved (in the eyes of the world at least).
OnewhoWonders1 1 year ago
@OnewhoWonders1 That maybe, but the Sea Shepard is very close to piracy any farther would get their asses either in jail or sunk by a navy. Which should happen cause its international waters where know one has a right to take a navy ship after the whalers.
maricklee 1 year ago
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Let’s make a deal Mr Watson, according to one of your members SSCS is now out the business of protesting the Canadian Seal Hunt. We what all references and untruths relating to the Canadian Seal Hunt REMOVED from the SSCS web page and products by August 30, 2010.
romika4 1 year ago
Anything for a TV show...
MrBobbob69 1 year ago
The resolution which blames the act of violence to whaling by unanimity by IWC was adopted.
The act of SSCS or GP was denied.
Although it is natural, I think that a resolution is slow.
Next we should look back upon the past criminal record, and should capture an offender.
We think that life imprisonment is appropriate to Paul Watson?
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
dude they sunk the ady gil why not they sunk the other ship that ramed the ady like shoot them with a riffle
vietbinladen911 1 year ago
Do Americans have the spare time which carries out whaling criticism, killing those who do not still have a crime on the battlefield?
I want to think more their environmental pollution for Americans .
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
While Australians kill the kangaroo of what 10,000 animals, they criticize about a whale.
Are they the races which look back upon self and do not know that it is shameful?
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@Sukiyakimelody
AUSTRALIANS KILL KANGAROOS BECAUSE THEY'RE PESTS!!! THERE ARE MORE KANGAROOS THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE IN AUSTRALIA YOU DIPSHIT!! YOU QUITE OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. JAPS ARE KILLING ENDANGERED SPECIES OF WHALES WHILE HIDING BEHIND THE SIGN OF RESEARCH. NOT TO MENTION KILLING THEM IN A WHALE SANCTUARY, WHERE WHALES ARE PROTECTED!!!! FUCK YOU.
20012607 1 year ago
@20012607 You have expressed no opinions to me at not knowing. You should get to know shame.
Research whaling of Japan has taken the Minke whale increased too much as a sample.
The whale whose number decreased is the North Pole whale, and the U.S. has permitted the Inuit whaling.
A blue whale's number is not increasing. It is this whale you are seeing and enjoying.
Few whales are not the candidates for investigation of Japan.
Did you become shameful?
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@Sukiyakimelody
Ya your comment didn't really make any sense at all...because I was talking about your stupidity on killing roos.
20012607 1 year ago
@20012607 "JAPS ARE KILLING ENDANGERED SPECIES OF WHALES WHILE HIDING BEHIND THE SIGN OF RESEARCH."...?
Is this roos? you are moron.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@Sukiyakimelody No, I was talking about how I replied to a comment you made earlier about roos, and then you came back with that totally irrelevant comment...
20012607 1 year ago
YOU PEOPLE ARE MINDLESS! These whales have feelings and thank you Paul watson for saving 528 whales this year. You guys that think whaling is fine, try watching whale wars on animal planet. These GENTLE GIANTS HAVE EMOTIONS JUST LIKE HUMANS! This was not a waste of money. This is my opinion and you may have your opinionbut you know what, These people are my heros, my idols. They risked there lives for these whales and all you guys care about is we should just keep killing these endangerd whales.
RingetteLoVeR1 1 year ago
@RingetteLoVeR1 All creatures even plants have feelings, but we can't do anything but eat them to survive and be healthy. If these whales are feeding thousands of people, then that's a great thing in my opinion.
fog0death 1 year ago
@RingetteLoVeR1 Ya and wasted how many whales already caught? Dumb batards don't realize that by letting the meat go bad they aren't cutting into any profits. All it does is make the whalers have to kill more whales because of these dumb asses stopping them. I hope that Paul Watson burns for eternity for being a terrorist. I suppose you will comment back and tell me you are going to join the taliban. You would be just a mindless to be involved with either one.
3793939 1 year ago
@3793939
Paul Watson is not a terrorist though. If he was, he wouldn't be able to have a television show broadcasted worldwide...he certainly wouldn't be able to take donations for his actions either. he's just a genius, incredible naturalist. Plus, the japs have a quota. they can only KILL so many whales. so, if the sea shepherds waste their meat, the japs can't make any profit off of it. so if the whalers had a quota of 800 whales, they can't kill any more than 800 just bcuz they went bad.duh
20012607 1 year ago
@20012607 "Paul Watson is not a terrorist" hah?Doesn't you know FBI specified him as terrorism?
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@Sukiyakimelody
What the hell does the FBI have to do with it anyways? they must just be kissin the Jap's asses... FBI's never done anything about them down there, and no-one else has besides the Jap WHALING FLEET. No government has really ever gotten involved while the Sea Shepherds were working.
20012607 1 year ago
We Japan must whaling.
Don't eat a sick cow.It is natural providence that a living thing eats a living thing.
You should force neither your religion nor liking on others.
You should consider the time of he being done so.
When blaming others, you should look back upon your bad.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
stop kill the whales you liltle yellow cock suckers
ban0003 1 year ago
FUCK YOU, WHALE! AND FUCK YOU, DOOOOOLPHIN!
ROEDERBABY 1 year ago
ほんと、英語はうっとおしいな。味方か敵かわかりにくいときがある。間違ってたらごめんね。日本の人誤爆の時は教えてね。
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
誤訳で誤爆したかな？
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
Japanese people know in the U.S. that tens of thousands of cows are killed and the kangaroo is killed tens of thousands of animals in Australia.
However, Japanese people do not take refuge from the gastronomic culture of a foreign country, or do not deny. It is because it does not think that one are the rightest.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@Sukiyakimelody Too bad the cows here aren't on the Endangered List and never will be you guys are probably just jealous of someone with more control over a situation. The Japanese are losing money they should just GIVE UP
MrTrojanman16 1 year ago
@MrTrojanman16 I do not have time to keep company with a dull person for a comment.
Only those who understand the meaning of my comment correctly can receive my reply.
Regrettably the qualification is not enough for you.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@Sukiyakimelody Don't worry my company is to high of a class for you
MrTrojanman16 1 year ago
@MrTrojanman16 For a long time, your company does not have, so don't worry.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@ D200SAX I think SweBadAss666 guy is also one of member of SSCS too.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
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@D200SAX Are you say "There is each culture in each country.
It seems that they do not educate that it is very impolite to deny foreign culture in their country." ?
That's wright I think so too.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
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Has Green Peace helped sea animals for Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico?
The Korean company which name is Hyundai Heavy Industries must help Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico in the U.S!! Many sea animals cry!
undertakerRach 1 year ago
@D200SAX Hahahaha They can't understand all differ from us.
Did you explain plainly also to fool?
These are brainwashed with GP and SSCS and their eyes cannot be seen.
Whatever it may say, the fact is not in sight.
They are a maiden(or hot pussy) who falls in love.
Sukiyakimelody 1 year ago
@D200SAX I don't dislike Americans at all, I have many american friends and loved living there for 2 years, but when discussing pollution, etc. It would be a decisively wrong to assume that I'm american.
SweBadAss666 1 year ago
@D200SAX do NOT, even for a second think that I'm an american. I'm Swedish.
And as a Swede I know that my country is one of the least pollutive country's in the world compared to our size.
SweBadAss666 1 year ago
@D200SAX learn english, then come back and whine....
SweBadAss666 1 year ago
@WeMakeGuides - wow, you're saying the problem with sinking a large ship full of people is that it would be bad for the environment ?? really? you don't see anything else wrong with that? maybe you don't belong in society anymore.
lyon0100 1 year ago
They cannot throw their bottles of shit on the whalers boats because of nets and water hoses yet they have a helicopter. Fill the copter full of the shit and dump it on the whalers boats..all of their boats..........
mac777daddy 1 year ago
Bunch of idiots on a ship, committing piracy, and causing alot of damage to the environment then the people they're fighting they ram their ship into other ships bigger then them the debris from that ramming goes into the ocean, the acid products they throw at the ships get swept off boards into the ocean,Captain needs his license deprived for putting his crew in mortal danger, And PAUL WATSON makes quite a bit of money exploiting it, if both these ship sink the we'd have 2 problems gone
DemonicSeal 1 year ago
I probably need to bring some whales for you.
I can bring extra whales for Captain. (obviously..)
But don't forget that your meat is also tasty
WellKnownKid 1 year ago
These guys will recover their hopeless lives if they eat WHALES.
Shall I bring extra whales for you Captain?
But your meat looks tasty too.
WellKnownKid 1 year ago
Sea Shepard is strongly backed up by the PM of Aus. Russ. Russ, a mandarine speaker, has been working for China for long term. This program was made for creating anti-Japanese sentiment in the world.
zzztopzzz 1 year ago
Oh, this is a shit program for disseminating a cause of Freemason: To save the earth, reduce the world population to 500 million. Global warming and anti-Whaling movements are being promoted by people sitting in a warm room and sometimes going out to hunt deers for fun. lol
zzztopzzz 1 year ago
yes, send it down to the bottom --
you got my blessings !
73
TheDyausPitar 2 years ago
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Don't fool yourself people, they make a television program, collect a lot of money and make themselves out to be "heros" within a circle of environmental advocates that include famous people like Daryl Hanna - but they have not and will not stop whaling. They talk a big game - but it's all a self serving perpetual cycle that leads to more whaling and more television shows. You want to stop whaling you put Japan's whaling fleet on the ocean floor - period, end of story!!!
AdmiralLobeam 2 years ago
they say their going to stop all whale fishing and they have not started in norway -.-
Tronor123 2 years ago
SS had shoot the bow-gun！
Serch and look 3:48 ↓↓↓
｢ Sea Shepherd / Ady Gil - the continuum ｣
FRX100 2 years ago
@Tronor123 .They are cowardly but not stupid.They know they would get thier arses kicked if these were Norwigian fishermen.They have pick the Japanese cause they would show alot of restraint and to work on peoples raical fears aswell.
101whalesushi 2 years ago
Chinese River Dolphin has exterminated last year.
Sea Shepherd and G.P. disregarded this！！！
FRX100 2 years ago 3
@FRX100 According to wikipedia it's CR (critically endangered) not extinct.
Dreamlgider 2 years ago
Last observated case was at sep/2004
By IUCN (Possibly Extinct)
FRX100 2 years ago
that skinny dork needs some therapy listen to how angry these people are they need mental help
uclit 2 years ago
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FUCK YOU WHALE AND FUCK YOU DOLPHIN.
silverblotter 2 years ago
Stinkbomb throwing vegan hippie dorks
H82Sayit 2 years ago 5
SOUTHPAAAAARK XD
*ehmehm* PHUCKE YU DOLPHIIIIN, AND PHUCKE YU WHAAAALE
yamato714 2 years ago
@yamato714 the funny part of that episode is how they were actully serious. LOl these guys use stink bombs as their most agressive tactics and think their badass... i think that this show is such a joke.
Nightelfyo 2 years ago
@Nightelfyo i know man, seriously, how can people possibly take these guys serious?
yamato714 2 years ago
Fuck you Whales! Fuck you dolphins!!
aggrorulz 2 years ago
PRESS RELEASE:
"US State Department Forcibly Opposes Japanese Whaling"
"The US has forcefully expressed opposition to Japans scientific whaling program. The US supports the moratorium banning commercial whaling adopted by the IWC in effect since 1986 and opposes Japanese whaling"
-Richard Boucher
Spokesperson
Undersecretary for Public Affairs
WASHINGTON DC
UNITED STATES DEPT of STATE
[Any US citizen siding with Foreign whalers are traitors Against their own nation]
(11 hours ago)
RecentlySeen 2 years ago
Fruck you dolphin. Frucka you whale
H82Sayit 2 years ago
SEASHEPHERD crew includes U.S. & INTL LAW ENFORCEMENT, SSCS staff includes U.S. FEDERAL AGENTS.
SSCS is Authorized for Law Enforcement at Sea under U.N.WCFN Sec (e) et Seq. Intl Law.
WHALE WARS SEASHEPHERD Crew includes United States Military NAVY trained Surface Warfare experts & honored IRAQ WAR VETERANS onboard SeaShepherd vessels.
Paul Watson is a MERCHANT MARINE, and former COAST GUARD Officer.
SEASHEPHERD Crew member D. KEHOE is a U.S. POLICE FORCE OFFICER.
(3 weeks ago)
RecentlySeen 2 years ago
fuck you dolphin fuck you whale
H82Sayit 2 years ago
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Then it would seem that the entire crew of the Steve Irwin are former whale-meat-consumers.
kpdsza 2 years ago
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WHALE MEAT FOUND TO CAUSE IRREVERSIBLE BRAIN DAMAGE
Mercury, a potent neuro-toxin, has now been shown to cause irreversible neurological damage. Severe cases resulted in Coma or Death.
Even in Low concentrations, scientists found that mercury causes damage to the nervous system, children are even more at risk. Exposure to methylmercury may be irreversible & can cause developmental brain problems.
EIA Chemical analysis has shown high levels in both whale & dolphin products
(1 hr ago)
RecentlySeen 2 years ago
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NEWS: Toxins taint Norway's whale meat
"Whale meat consumed in Norway may contain some of the world's most dangerous toxins."
"A recent analysis of whale meat purchased in Norwegian markets turned up more than 50 PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls) including chemicals that cause hormonal imbalance."
It may cause an increase in cancer, affect the immune system & reduce mens sperm. Eating Whale meat is putting themselves & their children at risk" reported Norwegian Officials.
(9 hrs ago)
RecentlySeen 2 years ago
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Thank you for your comment.
You have to look at who compiled the report and for whom it was done.
Norwegian Minke whale meat is healthy.
If it wasn't they would not be allowed to sell it.
But thanks for trying :o)
Have a good day
ihaveairlockers 2 years ago
Why do you people look down on them? At LEAST they're out there, in the water, with a boat and dedicated crew. You need to realise that they stand for something, and I applaud their dedication.
Opus626 2 years ago 15
@Opus626 Well maybe we should feel sorry for them instead? I mean seriously, what they stand for is a load of bull. They're hunting in Australian waters? Bull. Minke whales are endangered? Bull. They typically take more than half an hour to die from the harpoons? Bull. The hunt is illegal? Bull. Sea Shepherd has the law on their side in trying to stop it? Guess what, ALSO BULL!!
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 They are hunting whales inside the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary? True
The only reason Japan has "permits" is they issued them to themselves? True
Minke Whales are a threatened species? True
The hunt is illegal? Disputed, currently unresolved.
The hunt is for scientific research? Disputed, currently unresolved.
Sea Shepard has the law on their side trying to stop it? True
Sea Shepards tactics in trying to stop it are legal? Some are and some are not.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 They're hunting whales inside the SOWS? True. They're also following the rules of the SOWS.
They're allowed to issue permits to themselves? True.
Minke whales are a threatened species? FALSE. The minke species is listed by the IUCN as Least Concern, and the antarctic population group is listed as Data Deficient.
The hunt is illegal? FALSE. Some IWC countries would like to make it illegal but currently it's not.
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NRen2k5 1 year ago
I will start with a basic outline. feel free to ask for more detailed explanations (one at a time).
Japan formally objected to SOWS and therefore doesn't follow SOWS rules.
The Permits Japan issues for itself are subject to review by IWC rules. During these reviews Japan was cited many times for breaking SOWS and urged to stop.
CITES lists Minke's as Appendix I (threatened)
There is some research, but that issue is far from resolved.
SS authority is by UN resolution and legally binding
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 Almost right. Japan doesn't *have to* abide by SOWS rules *wrt minke* because they filed an objection wrt minke.
Who cares about IWC wagging their finger at Japan? IWC's creation of the SOWS was illegal and the IWC is toothless anyway.
CITES lists minke as Appendix I for political reasons - to try to give the IWC some teeth. This is why I trust IUCN more than CITES - because IUCN is less corrupted by politics.
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NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Correct! All IWC resolutions are voluntary. Any Nation can object or simply leave the IWC. They can also ignore IWC completely since IWC has no provision for enforcement. Japan ignored IWC for years and years and damn near exterminated many whale species from the face of the earth.
Want to try that again? Or would you like to try entering the modern world and act wise?
PS IUCN is toothless as well. Thats the real reason you like?
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 Damn near exterminated many whale species - care to prove that?
Oh, never mind. Looking at the rest of your comment, it's clear you've abandoned reason and just want to bray like a jackass.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Clearly you dont understand how UN WCN affects international law. The Southern Ocean Whale sanctuary is in international waters. Therefore it is not superceeded by Canadian law. There is a difference. Sea Shepards are well aware of the difference which is most likely the reason they have chosen this issue.
I agree, however it is the Japanese whalers who are using circular logic. Very sad that Japan is backwards nation and has no understanding of modern conservation methods
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 No, clearly, you're just swallowing Sea Shepherd's tripe. Flagged ships in international waters are treated as small pieces of the nation which they're flagged under, so just exchange Canadian law for Japanese law here. What Sea Shepherd's taking advantage of is the difficulty Japan has in arresting their crew. See Pete Bethune's case for proof of both of these points.
No rebuttal about the Japanese being the ones using circular logic - you're just being a jackass again.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 LOL Now who is talking tripe? I am US Merchant Marine. I am well aware of the laws concerning Flagged vessels. Where they apply and where they don't apply. I would venture to say I know a fair bit more than you do on this issue of flagged vessels. Pete Bethune boarded illegally. He is stupid idiot for this. If he had of allowed himself to be rescued by the Shonan Maru he could have made a case in international law and probably won. But Bethune was idiot.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 Fair enough, you know more than me. But you didn't say where I'm wrong.
I agree about Bethune. He was an idiot and/or a patsy. I have to admit, I kind of like the guy, though. When he spoke out against Sea Shepherd recently, it opened some people's eyes. I personally know some people on Facebook who went from being SS supporters to SS critics when what he said echoed what I had been saying for months.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Are you sure you want me to publically post Japanese whaling history here? My purpose is not to embarrass Japan about past failures. I sure don't want to help the radical Vegans. It is very embarrasing for the Japanese.
I think it is better that we discuss how to defeat the Sea Shepards and allow Japan to whale. The issue is how to allow Japan to whale and still follow conservation methods.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 The solution is dead simple, really: Get the IWC to admit that Japan's right and change or lift the moratorium, at least as far as it applies to minke. In the meantime, the non-solution right now is at least workable for the Japanese. If the anti-whaling faction in the IWC gets any more belligerent or ridiculous, Japan can just plain leave, and I would cheer for them.
In any case, things may get interesting again this year, with JCG officers on the whaling ships again.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Japan will continue ignoring wisdom? It only makes Sea Shepards stronger. You should take some wisdom, if you are forced to fight you have already lost. The best solution is to take your quota of southern minkes when they migrate outside the Sanctuary. Watson gets no TV show, Japan gets their whales, Since Japan has agreed to conservation zone the arguements in the IWC opposition are defeated. It is a much better strategy.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 Watson would still attack them outside the sanctuary. It eliminates the SOWS issues but leaves the issues of hunting minke and being attacked in international waters. In other words, Watson will still attack the whalers, only his justification for doing so will be slightly weakened.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Much more than slightly weaked. He uses UN resolution as justification for his breaking international navigation laws. However he can only do this as an environmental group acting on behalf of IWC conservation measures which Japan is breaking. Once Japan complies with the sanctuary, then the "research" is completely legal and the permit review is also compliant. Then Watson can be arrested anywhere in the world. He can no longer argue he is enforcing IWC resolutions.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 Additionally there is another benefit. Japan is no longer seen as an outlaw nation with respect to whaling. This strengthens their diplomatic position in the attempt to remove the ban on species that are no longer endangered.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 I doubt their image will change. People have already been tricked to believe so much misinformation about the antarctic whale hunt, I doubt that a change in the actual facts will even be much noticed.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 You underestimate how many people don't like Radical Vegans. If you take away their basic ammunition their battle becomes untenable. For one, They have no footage for their show minimun one season. There goes a huge ammount of funding. He can lie all he wants..but with no show he wont be heard. Less funding means less ships harrasing and looking for the Japanese fleet. Migration routes are big, doubtful he could even find the fleet.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 Sea Shepherd tends to get help finding the fleet. We'll see how the larger hunting grounds this year work against them. I don't think it would necessarily be the end of them.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Temporary solution at best. No real resolution will happen until Japan stops whaling inside the Sanctuary.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 A few problems with that understanding:
- Sea Shepherd can't be said to be acting on the IWC's behalf, even now - the IWC actually condemns their dangerous antics.
- Japan isn't breaking any conservation measures, they've very narrowly sneaked around them. Their research and permits and activities are perfectly legal; the IWC just grumbles because they're not within the spirit of the SOWS.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Actually like I said from the beginning when we started all this. Japans position for legality of whaling the Minkes inside the conservation zone is disputed at best. A case can be made for both sides.
Both Sea Shepards and Japanese whalers have been condemed in this little "war" they have. It will only get worse. The best way for Japan to win this war is to not fight it.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 I disagree. I think the best way for Japan to win is to keep doing what they're doing right now: Keeping a record of Sea Shepherd's crimes, keep collecting more research as they whale, and keep fighting the antis in the IWC. The Japanese whalers aren't exactly being bankrupted by Sea Shepherd's activity, and as time goes on, the chances only rise of the ICR proving whaling sustainable, the IWC caving to the Japanese's demands, or Sea Shepherd shooting themselves in the head.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 One problem with that strategy. Japan is still objecting to conservation measures. Be sure 100% no one will remove the moratorium as long as Japan refuses to accept the sanctuary. There could be 10 million Minkes and they will NOT remove the ban until Japan removes its objection to the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 I like to have a little more faith in humanity. I don't think the IWC would *necessarily* be such dicks.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 See this is the fundamental difference. Japan really doesn't understand the rest of the worlds conservation methods. Therefore people who would allow whaling but also create whaling free zones is a foreign concept to the Japanese.
For many other countries this is only common sense. It has been done sucessfully over and over to rescue many species, remove them from endangered list and then allow hunting.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 Did you ever wonder why the rest of the world puts up with Sea Shepards idiots? No one likes their radical Vegan agenda. We in the United States laugh at them while eating a nice thick juicy steak. (Vegans don't believe in killing cows either)
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 (continued) The research issue will never be resolved as long as politics and emotions continue to motivate IWC members' voting and committees' decisions. The science is perfectly clear: There are hundreds of thousands of minke out there, which is enough to hunt on at least a limited basis.
The UN resolution you're talking about, the World Charter for Nature, is *not* legally binding, and Watson has known this since at least 1995. (continued)
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 (continued) Make that 1999... Watson was on trial in Canada for attacking several fishing vessels, and his defence was to admit that the WCN is not legally binding but that he sincerely thought at the time of the crime that it was, so he should be acquitted by "colour of right". He wasn't. In fact the judge specifically instructed the jury to keep in mind that the WCN is not law and that they were only supposed to consider whether he seriously believed it was.
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@rosepetal108 The hunt is for scientific research? TRUE. ICR has dozens of papers published in peer reviewed journals. Some people pretend that the research doesn't exist or isn't useful, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists and validates the whaling as scientific.
Sea Shepherd has the law on their side? FALSE. They're a private org. with no law enforcement authority.
Sea Shepherd's tactics are legal? If you admit some aren't, then how can you say they have the law on their side?
NRen2k5 1 year ago
@NRen2k5 The purpose of my post was to point out there are no angels in this controversy. Both sides have posted lies 1/2 truths and propaganda. However, would like like detailed analysis of these issues with quotes? (will take at least 10 posts probably) or just a general outline of the arguements?
rosepetal108 1 year ago
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i have been doing my job as a coral farmer to save the sealife and reefs cultivating and propagating corals to restore the reefs but i want to do more...i want to kill all those japanise people and sink all their ships !!! i offer me like a volunteer i can suicide my self to kill japanise or sink their ships who join me? or who need me? i can sacrifice myself to save a whale. im not afraid to die!!!
johannankauderni 2 years ago
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Paul W says, "I would dearly love to send it to the bottom." & then they cut to him bowing and with his hands folded like in prayer. WTF This guy is an atheist. I've heard him talking & mocking religion in his speeches, so why this? Because it's all for the camera. These guys are no more than a PR machine for their contributers / donors & now their TV audience. Keep up the great work guys. We see the real you, no matter what you try to edit out. Your anarchists, radicals, & dangerous.
fmscribs 2 years ago
Yes, that would explain other illegal whaling ships attack them with flashbangs? Come on, a movement liek this wouldn't be fake.
Opus626 2 years ago 6
soon there will be japs bleeding in the ocean when i get a gun, fuck these idiot jap whalers
wazzamak 2 years ago 2
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Never stood by to watch a whale die my ass.
I seen the episode where they saw one get straight pooned.
The water was all red and crazy.
They stood by and watched it to.
smokanonymous 2 years ago
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yeah... but you should see all the people enjoying the fresh whale beef for dinner...
Yummy !
ihaveairlockers 2 years ago
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why don't you just arm your vessel and sink the whalers, he stated he would dearly love to send to the bottom. Oh yeah cause then he would have a naval vessel blowing them out of the water.
wcresponder 2 years ago
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whales taste like beef, i have it roasted with soy sauce. I think it tastes better than beef though!i prefer thinking them as "cows of the ocean"... no offence
matsnailboy 2 years ago
you just want attention. go play xbox faggot
Magiccgnome 2 years ago
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Like how tuna is the Chicken of the sea?
COOL!
WhyGuy21 2 years ago
I thought sea cows were manatees?
ToriGee22691 2 years ago
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Anyone who talks shit about the Sea Shepherds should get harpooned with a fat dick. You all suck nuts and should die. Go whales! Fuck dirty Jap fishermen!
hj090186 2 years ago 14
@hj090186 Thanks for making Sea Sheppard supporters look like ignorant morons.
mrklp 1 year ago
These guys fit the definition of "eco-terrorists" perfectly.
I can't wait till the whalers or japanese coast guard use deadly force on them when they start throwing chemicals and potentially deadly lubricious materials on the ships.
Smittyswymer 2 years ago
me either because then i will dedicate my life to sabotoging that piece of shit nishhin dick loving maru
xiaoxiao202 2 years ago 15
I will start watching this stupid tv show when that happens
Goofus5453 2 years ago
arrrrgghhh mayyytie swab the deck! all ye scallywags out there best not be whalin, or we be boarding your deck too!!! and yeah trees dont defend you against phsychopaths but they give us air to breath so we dont suffocate and die,
garbageday99 3 years ago
can you buy whale meat online it looks great
marlinphish 3 years ago
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a crew of stoner rich kids with no reason to live other than this. what about the animals in africa that get shot all the time. oh wait those pochers will shoot you and a boat is more comfortable. fucking hippies.
externalpower 3 years ago
I applaud these Paul Watson and his efforts. Even though they are very much pushing the law I think it has to be done. In Africa they shoot to kill poachers who illegally kill elephants and other big game and the world applauds these hard line tactics, but for the worlds largest animals we don't care. I hope this eventually pushes governments to take more enforcing action against these murderers.
alexkolewe 2 years ago 19
@alexkolewe Murderers? the're just dumb mamma-fish. And the're all going straight to hell
Elite9899 1 year ago
@alexkolewe we got a winner!
ILLESTwhiteNI66A911 1 year ago
oh man, you moronic douchebags need to get your facts straight before saying anything bad about the Sea Shepherds because all you're doing is shitting on each others' faces.
SEA SHEPHERDS RULE!
kel3388 3 years ago 5
I truly believe this tv show will do more harm to their cause than anything or anyone else. It shows their lies and distortions that they make up. It shows how careless the Captain is towards his crew and the whalers. "I would dearly love to send it to the bottom." Just great. Sink a ships with sailors on board in fridged waters. That's why this guy is DANGEROUS! And that's their intention...violence!
But if somoeone tried to sink his ship they would all cry and say "hey, that's not fair."
fmscribs 3 years ago
exactly.. thank you!
joh2pao 2 years ago
Liberal pirates "We're not doing anything wrong"
This is why weapons were made, turn them harpoon 90 degrees to port & starboard & give these fuckers something real to look at. They'll turn tail quick.
promithiusV 3 years ago
You throw chemicals to disorient the crew then board a ship, how is the fuck is that not the act of pirates....oh ya having a piece of paper...fucking hippies...
atdtheo12516 3 years ago 4
These people are criminals who illegally board anpother ship and start the fight by throwing toxic chemicals on their deck they should all be locked up in prison
PriaNorm 3 years ago
i fully support what they do and i think its great that instead of sitting and complaining about it, they are actually doing something. i feel so bad for those whales. im so happy that the sea shepherds are trying to save those magnificent creatures. those japanese dont need to be killing the numbers of whales that they kill each year.
Cutie87693 3 years ago
what the japs do is wrong....but this crew of pirate asshole has no right to sail the seas.the fat asshole captain doesn't have a nut in his sack. he is a piece of shit. he has no right doing what he does sending these stupid bunch of stoners with no at sea experience to do the things he has seen on a star wars movie. i hope the fuckin gooks kill all of them and sink his pirate homo stoner fat ass. even the green peace asshole kicked him out
marlinphish 3 years ago
theyre just like pirates
matsnailboy 3 years ago
You're right. They should sink those environmental vandal pirate ships whose crew are illegally killing whales.
thefutureisvegan 2 years ago 4
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sorry i meant the sea shepherds as the pirates... i like whales (eating them)
matsnailboy 2 years ago
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nyghtgt 2 years ago
whale taste like fucking shit
xiaoxiao202 2 years ago 9