It's also a different pain than what some people might be experiencing with chronic back pain. I feel very lucky that my regular doctor was open minded enough to recommend the Chiropractor that I have. It's not witch craft, it's not snake oil type medicine, it's actually a lot of common sense.
I had ARPwave therapy yesterday, I had a pain level that was in the 7 to 8 range for the several days proceeding the treatment. I have had this pain for over a year on and off with no relief. After a very short ARPwave session my pain was down to almost nothing. It works, I am not sure how and I almost don't care to find out why it worked.
In Italy we use to say: "ti parli addosso" ... that's exactly what you are doing ... "you talk on yourselves" ... and you do not listen and you do not search.
You are tellin me this:
""U should do some research before commenting...""
Well, my friends, this is exactly what you should be doing. Anyway, talking about the ARPWave System and saying it is "theoritical" is non-sense.
I will stop commenting here since it's no use with a person who finds normal to answer with a childish "ROFL".
I'd like to know why someone selling the program told a patient of mine that this would break up scar tissue? Where did this assumption come from and/or how has this be verified as the mechanism of action? Please provide specs so we can investigate the settings and compare w/other similar modalities. Thanks!
I'm not against anything that takes pain away; to assume it does miracles is purely assumptive. Give me data to send over to a PhD in electrophysiology.. I'll see what he says..
@PaoloTron1 I've been providg evidenced based medi/PT & a variety of treatment techns for over 20 yrs. I get the tough cases in my region because of my success rate. View other videos: Learn that most have had a long history of pain & this is 1st time they became pain-free w/carry-over over the yrs. This device actually kicks the brain/multifidi pathway in so they start functioning properly & to stay that way; even during & after 1 session. U should to some research before commenting.
@ProPTRehab -- just watched your video with your "bondage" system -- well ... do you really think your patient can get rid of his low back pain with those straps and position? If this person has (an I am sure he has) a neurological short, he will be back in pain in a few days -- for sure this is just IMHO
@PaoloTron1 Theoretically lack of neural communication is reestablished with the ATM2, hence perhaps why I get long term results; however, notice how is use the term theoretical. When you don't espouse your claims as at least theoretical, it can be more easily considered a quack procedure... Electrically contracting muscle does not reduce a disk bulge or release an adherence nerve root or stabilize the stabilizers of the spine..
@ProPTRehab -- you miss the point -- an incorrect signal to the muscle is the problem -- it seems there is a will of NOT being curious to search and listen to some of the ARPWave Videos here -- you can go ahead with status-quo and with the usual prehistoric methods -- I am aware it is very difficult to get rid of prejudices -- ARPWave is simply the future and time will tell ps I suggest you to go through Mr. Jacek Bator experience ... pretty interesting ....
@PaoloTron1 I've been providg evidenced based medi/PT & a variety of treatment techns for over 20 yrs. I get the tough cases in my region because of my success rate. View other videos: Learn that most have had a long history of pain & this is 1st time they became pain-free w/carry-over over the yrs. This device actually kicks the brain/multifidi pathway in so they start functioning properly & to stay that way; even during & after 1 session. U should to some research before commenting.
@PaoloTron1 I'm not opposed to anything that works, however, I'm against people presenting hypotheticals as facts; there is no way to verify any influence over scar tissue; it's an idea, nothing more. Also, I've spoke with some med pros who have worked w/the unit and is not impressed with it. The methods we use are up-to-date w/current literature and if the theoretical model is not verified, we call it theoretical. What are the specs, wave shape frequency, intensity; post the parameters
@PaoloTron1 I'm not opposed to anything that works, however, I'm against people presenting hypotheticals as facts; there is no way to verify any influence over scar tissue; it's an idea, nothing more. Also, I've spoke with some med pros who have worked w/the unit and is not impressed with it. The methods we use are up-to-date w/current literature and if the theoretical model is not verified, we call it theoretical. What are the specs, wave shape frequency, intensity; post the parameters
I don't see how this is different from Electrical stimulation. Muscles are typically not the cause of most back and/or neck pain. Saying you treat the origin instead of symptoms is a misnomer. You have to affect the symptoms to get to the symptom generator; then you can work on issues involving propensity for injury. I have someone I'm treating who told me I was first person to help him in over 2+ yrs; now he's talking to someone about ARP and the person is assuming he has scar tissue all over.
Muscles are typically not the cause of most back and/or neck pain. Saying you treat the origin instead of symptoms is a misnomer. You have to affect the symptoms to get to the symptom generator; then you can work on issues involving propensity for injury. I have someone I'm treating now who told me I was the first person to help him in over 2+ years; now he's talking to someone about ARP and the person is assuming he has scar tissue all over.
This is why the healthcare system in your Country is a complete disaster. Go ahead with medicines when you can avoid it. Go ahead with surgery when you can avoid it. I probably don't know your healthcare system but I know it is time to stop with false informations. For sure, you have a great personal interest in leaving things as they ar. The orthopedic knowledge, in your Country and in my Country is still in 19th century... "do you feel pain? yes? Oh take this pill and put ice on it!
@PaoloTron1 ROFL, funny to read your reply; most of my patients only need a few treatments on the ATM2. Once the stabilizers kick in; the body does it's job. However, as I'm hopeful you realize, no matter what someone gets as a treatment, gravity doesn't go away. Postural and body mechanic stresses don't go away, but people can do a lot to maintain proper posture and body mechanics. Thanks for the chuckle though, lol
@PaoloTron1 BTW, you can see other people I used ATM2 on; one woman had a 45 year history along with surgery, dx fibromyalgia, etc.. etc.. she had every treatment out there. The 1st time she has had relief was via the ATM2; she did a post 5 month video testimonial; additionally over the past 3 years she has had a couple of mild exacerbation (postural stress) and that's it. She has been sending people over since..
@PaoloTron1 What r u talking about? U sound like you're regurgitating stuff that someone stuffed into your ears over the yrs. Who the hell advocates meds&surgery? So u think ARP will reduce a protruded disk? Assumptive therapy Do u even know of Steven Kuslich's studies on pain? Y do I get great long term results? What makes u think STRENGTHENING is important for back pain?How do athletes get back pain?Multifidi only use ~5% of capability; they need to function,they don't need to be STRONG
@PaoloTron1 You can fatigue a nerve receptor and that can potentially cause a muscle to fatigue out too; so what happens to the disk prolapse? My patient said you guys told him your machine will break up scar tissues, did your guy really say this? Rather assumptive if this is true; how would you determine this? I apply NMES once in a while for AAROM, send me over your variables. My friend is going to a modalities course w/a PhD, I'll have him bring your data for comment.
...that is HIPAA ... you don't even know how to write it ! -- it is indeed always so sad to read comments like yours -- based on the deepest ignorance -- ARPWave is FDA approved -- ask them why? -- because it works ! -- let's break the status quo -- human beings need to improve their living -- we won't, with people like you, my friend...
The ARP has been the best thing that's ever happened in my lifetime. Is the healing a little intense? Yes, but the results are just fabulous. I had a torn ACL, and I had the Reconstuction surgery. Doctors say it takes 6-9 months to return to sports, but I was playing basketball 2 months after surgery. Don't think this is a scam or overlook it in any way. It truly is amazing and can help many people out there who are suffering.
My brother just finished ARP for his knee pain. He also said that the treatment was intense but he has had excellent results. His muscles are tight and his knee has a totally different appearance. No swelling or puffiness as before....and no pain.
I would much rather endure this than have my knee cut open and go through physical therapy which is also very painful.
I had a "mapping" and a treatment, and it was more like electroshock therapy than any sort of healing therapy. I literally screamed throughout the hour-long torture session. After watching this video, I don't think the program is training the practitioners correctly. This looks like a gentle, tens-like program. I could have died on that table with my heart condition. There was no medical history taken, no questions about other conditions, nothing. And it made my problem worse, not better.
I hope you guys are right.
What?
Well it was either this or suicide, so I signed up for a 15 day trial.
MonacoBlast 2 weeks ago
It's also a different pain than what some people might be experiencing with chronic back pain. I feel very lucky that my regular doctor was open minded enough to recommend the Chiropractor that I have. It's not witch craft, it's not snake oil type medicine, it's actually a lot of common sense.
jhoran1046 5 months ago
If anyone wants to dismiss this treatment or speak poorly about it then go ahead. What works for one person may not work for another. Truth
\fully it was painful for a short time but that pain was temporary.
jhoran1046 5 months ago
I had ARPwave therapy yesterday, I had a pain level that was in the 7 to 8 range for the several days proceeding the treatment. I have had this pain for over a year on and off with no relief. After a very short ARPwave session my pain was down to almost nothing. It works, I am not sure how and I almost don't care to find out why it worked.
jhoran1046 5 months ago
Wow.
In Italy we use to say: "ti parli addosso" ... that's exactly what you are doing ... "you talk on yourselves" ... and you do not listen and you do not search.
You are tellin me this:
""U should do some research before commenting...""
Well, my friends, this is exactly what you should be doing. Anyway, talking about the ARPWave System and saying it is "theoritical" is non-sense.
I will stop commenting here since it's no use with a person who finds normal to answer with a childish "ROFL".
PaoloTron1 5 months ago
I'd like to know why someone selling the program told a patient of mine that this would break up scar tissue? Where did this assumption come from and/or how has this be verified as the mechanism of action? Please provide specs so we can investigate the settings and compare w/other similar modalities. Thanks!
WingThaiJ 5 months ago
I'm not against anything that takes pain away; to assume it does miracles is purely assumptive. Give me data to send over to a PhD in electrophysiology.. I'll see what he says..
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
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@PaoloTron1 I've been providg evidenced based medi/PT & a variety of treatment techns for over 20 yrs. I get the tough cases in my region because of my success rate. View other videos: Learn that most have had a long history of pain & this is 1st time they became pain-free w/carry-over over the yrs. This device actually kicks the brain/multifidi pathway in so they start functioning properly & to stay that way; even during & after 1 session. U should to some research before commenting.
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
@ProPTRehab -- just watched your video with your "bondage" system -- well ... do you really think your patient can get rid of his low back pain with those straps and position? If this person has (an I am sure he has) a neurological short, he will be back in pain in a few days -- for sure this is just IMHO
PaoloTron1 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 Ahh, yes; along with body mechanics, posture that guy hasn't had a problem since... been a few years now...
WingThaiJ 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 Theoretically lack of neural communication is reestablished with the ATM2, hence perhaps why I get long term results; however, notice how is use the term theoretical. When you don't espouse your claims as at least theoretical, it can be more easily considered a quack procedure... Electrically contracting muscle does not reduce a disk bulge or release an adherence nerve root or stabilize the stabilizers of the spine..
WingThaiJ 5 months ago
@ProPTRehab -- you miss the point -- an incorrect signal to the muscle is the problem -- it seems there is a will of NOT being curious to search and listen to some of the ARPWave Videos here -- you can go ahead with status-quo and with the usual prehistoric methods -- I am aware it is very difficult to get rid of prejudices -- ARPWave is simply the future and time will tell ps I suggest you to go through Mr. Jacek Bator experience ... pretty interesting ....
PaoloTron1 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 I've been providg evidenced based medi/PT & a variety of treatment techns for over 20 yrs. I get the tough cases in my region because of my success rate. View other videos: Learn that most have had a long history of pain & this is 1st time they became pain-free w/carry-over over the yrs. This device actually kicks the brain/multifidi pathway in so they start functioning properly & to stay that way; even during & after 1 session. U should to some research before commenting.
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 I'm not opposed to anything that works, however, I'm against people presenting hypotheticals as facts; there is no way to verify any influence over scar tissue; it's an idea, nothing more. Also, I've spoke with some med pros who have worked w/the unit and is not impressed with it. The methods we use are up-to-date w/current literature and if the theoretical model is not verified, we call it theoretical. What are the specs, wave shape frequency, intensity; post the parameters
WingThaiJ 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 I'm not opposed to anything that works, however, I'm against people presenting hypotheticals as facts; there is no way to verify any influence over scar tissue; it's an idea, nothing more. Also, I've spoke with some med pros who have worked w/the unit and is not impressed with it. The methods we use are up-to-date w/current literature and if the theoretical model is not verified, we call it theoretical. What are the specs, wave shape frequency, intensity; post the parameters
WingThaiJ 5 months ago
I don't see how this is different from Electrical stimulation. Muscles are typically not the cause of most back and/or neck pain. Saying you treat the origin instead of symptoms is a misnomer. You have to affect the symptoms to get to the symptom generator; then you can work on issues involving propensity for injury. I have someone I'm treating who told me I was first person to help him in over 2+ yrs; now he's talking to someone about ARP and the person is assuming he has scar tissue all over.
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
Muscles are typically not the cause of most back and/or neck pain. Saying you treat the origin instead of symptoms is a misnomer. You have to affect the symptoms to get to the symptom generator; then you can work on issues involving propensity for injury. I have someone I'm treating now who told me I was the first person to help him in over 2+ years; now he's talking to someone about ARP and the person is assuming he has scar tissue all over.
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
This is why the healthcare system in your Country is a complete disaster. Go ahead with medicines when you can avoid it. Go ahead with surgery when you can avoid it. I probably don't know your healthcare system but I know it is time to stop with false informations. For sure, you have a great personal interest in leaving things as they ar. The orthopedic knowledge, in your Country and in my Country is still in 19th century... "do you feel pain? yes? Oh take this pill and put ice on it!
PaoloTron1 5 months ago
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@PaoloTron1 ROFL, funny to read your reply; most of my patients only need a few treatments on the ATM2. Once the stabilizers kick in; the body does it's job. However, as I'm hopeful you realize, no matter what someone gets as a treatment, gravity doesn't go away. Postural and body mechanic stresses don't go away, but people can do a lot to maintain proper posture and body mechanics. Thanks for the chuckle though, lol
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
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@PaoloTron1 BTW, you can see other people I used ATM2 on; one woman had a 45 year history along with surgery, dx fibromyalgia, etc.. etc.. she had every treatment out there. The 1st time she has had relief was via the ATM2; she did a post 5 month video testimonial; additionally over the past 3 years she has had a couple of mild exacerbation (postural stress) and that's it. She has been sending people over since..
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
Amazingly all done without the ARPWave! lol
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
Amazingly all done without the ARPWave! lol
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 What r u talking about? U sound like you're regurgitating stuff that someone stuffed into your ears over the yrs. Who the hell advocates meds&surgery? So u think ARP will reduce a protruded disk? Assumptive therapy Do u even know of Steven Kuslich's studies on pain? Y do I get great long term results? What makes u think STRENGTHENING is important for back pain?How do athletes get back pain?Multifidi only use ~5% of capability; they need to function,they don't need to be STRONG
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
@PaoloTron1 You can fatigue a nerve receptor and that can potentially cause a muscle to fatigue out too; so what happens to the disk prolapse? My patient said you guys told him your machine will break up scar tissues, did your guy really say this? Rather assumptive if this is true; how would you determine this? I apply NMES once in a while for AAROM, send me over your variables. My friend is going to a modalities course w/a PhD, I'll have him bring your data for comment.
ProPTRehab 5 months ago
HIPAA? What is that? What I'm referring to is HIPPA. Health Information Portability and Privacy Act.
You sir, don't know healthcare at all. Go away.
ziggub 6 months ago
@ziggub
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...that is HIPAA ... you don't even know how to write it ! -- it is indeed always so sad to read comments like yours -- based on the deepest ignorance -- ARPWave is FDA approved -- ask them why? -- because it works ! -- let's break the status quo -- human beings need to improve their living -- we won't, with people like you, my friend...
PaoloTron1 6 months ago
Isn't this video a complete violation of HIPPA laws? Pretty sure no one could (or would) give out this information in an orthopedic office.
Bullshit.
ziggub 6 months ago
The ARP has been the best thing that's ever happened in my lifetime. Is the healing a little intense? Yes, but the results are just fabulous. I had a torn ACL, and I had the Reconstuction surgery. Doctors say it takes 6-9 months to return to sports, but I was playing basketball 2 months after surgery. Don't think this is a scam or overlook it in any way. It truly is amazing and can help many people out there who are suffering.
bballandhorselover 9 months ago 2
My brother just finished ARP for his knee pain. He also said that the treatment was intense but he has had excellent results. His muscles are tight and his knee has a totally different appearance. No swelling or puffiness as before....and no pain.
I would much rather endure this than have my knee cut open and go through physical therapy which is also very painful.
ckventures 9 months ago
I had a "mapping" and a treatment, and it was more like electroshock therapy than any sort of healing therapy. I literally screamed throughout the hour-long torture session. After watching this video, I don't think the program is training the practitioners correctly. This looks like a gentle, tens-like program. I could have died on that table with my heart condition. There was no medical history taken, no questions about other conditions, nothing. And it made my problem worse, not better.
Beanhaven1 9 months ago
Bogus
Macintoshzz 9 months ago