I find that I generally can't do anything else while listening to free jazz. I've got a few free jazz albums like Ascension, and though I enjoy listening to them I actually listen less frequently than to some other albums I own, because it demands so much of my concentration. I'm either all listening to it, or being distracted by it. There's too much going on just to let your brain semi-passively pick out elements of the music.
This very clearly expresses how I feel about our society. Trapped even from feeling trapped. Being mutilated by unquestionable schizophrenic ideas of power. As soon as one tries to wake up from this American dream, there is uncle Sam who will knock you down and rape your broken soul. The only thing you can do is lay still and pretend that you are sleeping while your humanity is getting violated. Waiting for the moment to bite of societies cock.
Great stuff, might sound like a blend or fusion between constipated brass and sick cattle to some but I love it, great musical debate, thanks for the posting ;)
@MsJohanna95 those kids can burn then. People seem to think this kind of music lacks structure and direction. While it's much freeer than most music they are still using scales, playing in time, etc.They just express themselves without worrying if they're playing the right changes or if what their doing is the right style. Just listening and responding.Ornette's bands had so much more communication than most non-free bands do. Granted theres about 5 conversations going on this track
@mattpolofka I don´t think these kids should burn. there are some really musicians in this circle. some of them have a so called "absolutes Gehör" (i´m german, i don´t know the english word...) I mean they are great musicians. This was the first link i had to these music, i´m sorry. I don´t want to insult people who like that kind of music. I can´t identify with this music, jazz yes but not that kind. You see i´ve heard some more beautifully music songs but that´s only my opinion...
@mattpolofka I don´t think these kids should burn. there are some really musicians in this circle. some of them have a so called "absolutes Gehör" (i´m german, i don´t know the english word...) I mean they are great musicians. This was the first link i had to these music, i´m sorry. I don´t want to insult people who like that kind of music. I can´t identify with this music, jazz yes but not that kind. You see i´ve heard some more beautifully music songs but that´s only my opinion...
It's free for all out there, no one cares about rhythm and tempo or key and they're playing what they feel like playing in the moment. And still they sometimes just collide and play something together even if for a few seconds, it's all a big surprise. Stream of consciousness. What will happen next? This is it - you gotta be free of any restrictions to play or listen to it. Either that or my weed is too strong.
This isn't even all that messy, I don't get it. This is VERY enjoyable and easy listening. But there are some unlistenable free jazz tracks, this isn't one of them.
This is the first time I listened to free form jazz and to be honest, I don't see why people hate it. I do get why most must take time to get used to this but I just imagine myself walking down a road lined with jazz musicians and hear the overlapping of different rhythms and tunes. I actually like it.
This is very easy to follow now. Later Ornette is not. These were fine musicians. Still not my favorite form of jazz, it inspired some great musicians and entered the mainstream.
All the instruments are quite obviously doing their own thing with very little coordination or synchronization, but I like trying to listen to the bassline that sort of gets drowned out by the others at times.
they were giving the middle finger to society's boundaries at the time (1960's) by giving the middle finger to music's boundaries. It's expressionism stemmed from their own political ideals and beliefs. It also called "free" jazz for a reason...
Im a musician, and to me, this sounds like a jazz band warming up before a show. Everyone is doing there own little improv, whether it fits or not. Im not hearing a consistent beat/tempo that any musician is following.... I DONT GET IT!!!
@minxkitty8 Thats the point, free jazz by its very definition a middle finger to musical theroy, with no chords no tempo and very little feel, its a throw back the origins of music with tribal dances adn pure improv. That being said I could only listen to two minutes of it before I went back to trombone shortty and duke Ellington. :P
Neither do I, but I think you might be on to something: Maybe this style arose when a few people thought "hey, sounds kinda awesome when we warm up, even though it doesn't make sense lol", and then decided to make something of it :D
Just like, you know, this stuff might've been inspired by someone banging on the piano... and the listener thinking "hey, this sounds kinda cool" ;)
This is more like art than music... Or music is a form of art... I dunno.. Pardon me, I got no education in music whatsoever. But I am interested to learn how to appreciate different forms of music from classical to blues to jazz.. Any advice?
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This is far too complicate for simple understanding listeners. It requires (unfortunately) a higher level of music understanding and even some education.
It makes sense if you already have some understanding of abstract musical structures (that in this case it is not so abstract... try Ferneyhough Time and motion study no.2 or Lachenman Gran Torso). Unfortunately just some steps ahead of the basics......
@EpicTomato highly intelligent individuals shouldn't feel the need to announce to the petty world of you tube that they possess a "higher" then average IQ(average IQ is decreasing btw) . Doing so completely nullifies ones intelligence.
to translate. this is me, being a smart-ass, calling you a dumb-ass.
only textures , feelings .. its like the nature , human nature .. with 12 years you think that you know who are you ? really . stop your mouth and mind .. LISTEN without labels
@DruggedChicken yeah when i started listening to more avantgarde stuff i was like wtf am i hearing, but by listening to hardcore punk , metal, and noise rock (later in life), i realized that classical and modal jazz follow a strict guideline for what notes should be played when, to me the genius to avantgarde/free jazz music is finding those in-between notes and combining then with other notes to form a kind of music that nobody has ever heard before. in a nutshell
@DruggedChicken: Well, that was the general conclusion of most of the eras other Jazz musicians, not to mention the public at large. Audience interest was small and growing smaller and by the '70s the Free Jazz cats in New York were largely playing for each other. As the public came to believe that this was now Jazz they abandoned the art form in droves and it has taken years to rebuild, but the audience is still small compared to what it once was.
@dandriko71 I always found that one of the great things about music is that it bypasses your intellect. Whether you have education or not you can like all kinds of music.I like this music, but you don't need a high education to like it. Anyone can.
@dandriko71 agree with u here, i too hav incredibility high iq so i understaind dis musik very well iven headbeng tu dis... baht i don't care if those avereige ppl still listening to taht stupit justin bieber and classikal musik, ppl will listen to whatever thei like depends on there mood, culture and intlelectuaillty.. i'm sure also that my speilling and grammer will annoi arverage peepell becose it's sum steps ahead of the basics.. and actueilly not so abstracht.
@TheWallGuitar hehe, I mean maybe people who get really bored with "good music" (that acually have emotion to convey in those music) will enjoy this. This is simply rebellion to music theory, whereas music thoery exist to make it easier for creating good music. It's okay with experiment as long as the purpose is making good music, not to confuse pepole, but maybe some musician just don't care, that's why free jazz and contemporary music exist.
@TheWallGuitar haha, yeah i check it, the intro is pretty good though. But let me be honest, after listening to it over and over, it's not that bad =D.And actually if you try to search the notes, it train your feel. So listen to it and try to play it accurately is very challenging, but creating and improvising into it is not challenging at all. However I will never buy it!
we must give players who can not read music and know how to get sound out of an instrument also a chanche to play together and have fun and what nobody understands is art .I do it al the time.
@Hortonhearsawho1994 That's like asking why somebody would keep a diary/journal if they never intended for another person to read it. They recorded it for themselves and like-minded individuals who would understand and appreciate what they were trying to do. And nobody's forcing you or anyone else to listen to it.
I've studied music and especially Jazz, it mainly consists of a lot of improvisation and, hene the name free Jazz. You don't like this song, go back to school.
I rate this piece of music at the very top of free jazz. Jazz taught me a long time ago 55 years ago in fact to stop thinking and listen, that all anyone has to do to get the benifit of Jazz, free or otherwise.
This is honestly a waste of talent, time, money, record space, wood for the instruments, and basically everything else that has to do with being able to play music.
I enjoy lots of jazz music, and really music of almost any genre, but this is dreadful... There is no melody, there is nothing memorable about it. It sounds like the warm up before grade 7 band practice. Nothing musical about it.
@Hortonhearsawho1994 That's really the point. The free jazz movement was against what jazz and music in general had become between the '50's and the 70's. Free jazz musicians play this way because they are expressing themselves, and are doing it for themselves, not an audience.
A) Hipster is a Jazz term, originated in the 30s and 40s. It was someone who followed the Jazz Scene, and extended to some of the more image conscious musicians themselves.
B) These Bop era Hipsters actually cared a great deal about music. The Hipster of today is defined by apathy, and knowledge fro the sake of elitism. This is not the same as knowledge for the sake of knowledge, or music for the sake of music.
C) These Free musicians would have died for their beliefs.
This sounds kind of pretentious. Like those artwork that has no meaning to it, but honestly the music kind of sound like the inside of my head sometimes. So I'm torn: I don't know if I hate it or love it.
Free jazz is music. Lobsters are crustaceans. I just wanted to prove that I could spell crustacean. Because it's fun to say, just as fun as listening to adults bicker about them. By the way did anyone consider the poor lobster's feelings?
-Yours in growing fins
Rev. Philip Di Tommaso, not the person on this account
I would just say that, like any other art form, Jazz and further more music isn't created for one purpose only. I see free form Jazz as exploration. It's not generally for the listening public as such but to see what happens given certain parameters. It's one aspect of Jazz exaggerated, namely the improvised element. If we didn't experiment how could we grow?We would all be still listening to gregorian chants if we didn't have curiosity. 200 years ago Frank Sinatra would have sounded like this.
I love this, my friend doesn't- we all have different taste and he respects me for liking it. Just shut up and listen if you like it, if you don't then listen to what you prefer.
well. maybe i don't get it, but it doesn't sound like music to me... probably there were just 20 stoners, who were given instruments and told to start playing.
This kind of meandering clearly emphasizes exactly why I have had a hard time getting into jazz. It's like taking bad jazz to its logical extreme. I certainly hope these people were playing in separate rooms when they recorded their parts, because if not, they seriously need hearing aides.
Listened to the CD in silence not so long ago. Far from outrageous, it struck me as roots music. Sure, the musicians occasionally loose impetus within the group improvisations, but they also have moments when they soar individually and together. Remember that Ornette Coleman was working his ideas out in the performance, not on paper. It was an adventure. As far outside as Free Jazz is, you can hear New Orleans ensembles and the blues through it and in it.
Free form jazz is the very embodiment of jazz. The most spontaneous collaboration of music. The instruments talk, each telling their own story. It's a fray of smooth rhythm and bass. It captures the very essence of jazz. it's the free spirit of music. It has soul, pizazz, and attitude.
@TrickyEmu Agreed! If someone locked me into a closet and I had to listen to this I may contemplate suicide. Miles Davis said he had some loose screws!
@freakasoit If free jazz is bad music, then that asshole chef who gave me a burned steak with five dog turds on it at carrabba's deserved the asskicking.
@IHasTheRabies4Yaoi Uhhh. Why? No statement concerning the quality of art is objective. And Da Vinci's art is overrated anyway, his scientific contributions are far more interesting.
Nope, pretty much sounds like shit to me. Like, this kind of stuff, is it hard to make? It really sounds like a high school band member could some up with this kind of dissonant material where it hardly holds any melody. Either a lot of drugs must be taken to tolerate this or one must be deaf. Oh well. I'll let you guys enjoy this :D
@tehpeasant Dude, First of all BfmV is not a frickin pop band. Next thing is, I know that free Jazz isn't about playing random notes. Free Jazz is art and good Free Jazz artists do exactly know what they are doing. I was just making a joke.
Ignore the a#@holes who know nothing of great music. Brilliant. Listened to this album in my teens. Only one in H.S. The beautifully dynamic chemistry and fantastically complex artistry produced by Black consciousness, amazes and deeply intimidates the Beast. Display of intellectual bravado tears at the Monster. THEY CANNOT STOP THE MUSIC! WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT! FACE IT! Black just might have a brain, after all.
The problem is that there are people who actually love this music, like me, and then you have the majority who doesn't. The latter often thinks the other group doesn't actually enjoy the music and is tricked into liking it, like the moron talking about the lobster. Face it, there are people who actually love how it sounds, it's not because you don't appreciate it that no-one can. I am not trying to be all intellectual when I listen to dissonant music. I just like it.
@1000Eyes0016 while i understand the lobster boys attempt at metaphor i dont understand his seemingly un provoked, ill concieved vitriol, im not saying he is an arse, meerly that he may have arrived at such dull conclusions by using this part of his anatomy to conduct most of his contemplations. music is like food, that much at least (and indeed, most) is true in lobster boys theory, but does anybody have the right to pontificate over which food others enjoy? if you dont like it dont eat it.
@1000Eyes0016 Well, I guess that radio and tv airplay is just invaded by free jazz, so that people who don't like it just can't escape from listening... Lucky you.
@1000Eyes0016 exactly. there are also those who genuinely enjoy lobster. perhaps critics of free jazz fans are suffering from the same intellectual insecurity they project. they also seem to mislabel their own highly subjective views as an honest report of reality, mistaking sincerely held opinions for truth.
well people who hear anything of awesome in this song are either idiots or crazy(not meant as an insult) musicians ; ) I don't like it, but hey, why not?
Not all music is linear or harmonic. Yes, there is a structure, but it is a basis for change and collective improvisation. The structure evolves as the improvisation changes. Free jazz was free of the confines of a given meter, key, and chordal structure. I tend to think of it as the music of the collective subconscious that has eschewed conventional harmonic structure in favor of a "chaos" that creates a new and ephemeral structure that is unconventionally beautiful and certainly genius.
I find that I generally can't do anything else while listening to free jazz. I've got a few free jazz albums like Ascension, and though I enjoy listening to them I actually listen less frequently than to some other albums I own, because it demands so much of my concentration. I'm either all listening to it, or being distracted by it. There's too much going on just to let your brain semi-passively pick out elements of the music.
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This very clearly expresses how I feel about our society. Trapped even from feeling trapped. Being mutilated by unquestionable schizophrenic ideas of power. As soon as one tries to wake up from this American dream, there is uncle Sam who will knock you down and rape your broken soul. The only thing you can do is lay still and pretend that you are sleeping while your humanity is getting violated. Waiting for the moment to bite of societies cock.
So that we finally are allowed to be human.
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osaiufhdgiuhrgiuwe43 2 days ago
I wanna see a cover!
Django5198 3 days ago
alright, now who's gonna transcribe this? (trollface)
0live0wire0 1 week ago
am i the only one scared by the music here?
yoxredwolf 1 week ago 3
I remember the first time some "musical purist" told me what I was listening to wasn't even music. I thought, hell it must be good!
wizenhiemr 2 weeks ago
TAX EXEMPTION!!
SMPsis 2 weeks ago
@SMPsis I have yet to acquire a taste for free form jazz.
DeeJayJive 1 week ago
@SMPsis What?
whitedwarf13 1 week ago
Great stuff, might sound like a blend or fusion between constipated brass and sick cattle to some but I love it, great musical debate, thanks for the posting ;)
supergnorf 2 weeks ago
very psychedelic ^^
soopawhoops 3 weeks ago
Plug in headphones, listen to one at a time. Still atonal, far more listenable!
OokwantsREVENGE 4 weeks ago
I love this music. I feel as though it is abstract expressionism for the ears: it has no objective and no central emotional theme.
Swampcruiser88 1 month ago
hm.. *Dunno what to think this is horrible to my ears*
kidgame54 1 month ago
why is patrick in the sidebar?
pr3dat0r002 1 month ago 5
i play trombone and sometimes i go to a workshop with teens. seven minutes before we start to play it sounds like THAT!!
MsJohanna95 1 month ago
@MsJohanna95 those kids can burn then. People seem to think this kind of music lacks structure and direction. While it's much freeer than most music they are still using scales, playing in time, etc.They just express themselves without worrying if they're playing the right changes or if what their doing is the right style. Just listening and responding.Ornette's bands had so much more communication than most non-free bands do. Granted theres about 5 conversations going on this track
mattpolofka 2 weeks ago
@mattpolofka I don´t think these kids should burn. there are some really musicians in this circle. some of them have a so called "absolutes Gehör" (i´m german, i don´t know the english word...) I mean they are great musicians. This was the first link i had to these music, i´m sorry. I don´t want to insult people who like that kind of music. I can´t identify with this music, jazz yes but not that kind. You see i´ve heard some more beautifully music songs but that´s only my opinion...
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@mattpolofka I don´t think these kids should burn. there are some really musicians in this circle. some of them have a so called "absolutes Gehör" (i´m german, i don´t know the english word...) I mean they are great musicians. This was the first link i had to these music, i´m sorry. I don´t want to insult people who like that kind of music. I can´t identify with this music, jazz yes but not that kind. You see i´ve heard some more beautifully music songs but that´s only my opinion...
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It's free for all out there, no one cares about rhythm and tempo or key and they're playing what they feel like playing in the moment. And still they sometimes just collide and play something together even if for a few seconds, it's all a big surprise. Stream of consciousness. What will happen next? This is it - you gotta be free of any restrictions to play or listen to it. Either that or my weed is too strong.
0live0wire0 1 month ago
This isn't even all that messy, I don't get it. This is VERY enjoyable and easy listening. But there are some unlistenable free jazz tracks, this isn't one of them.
vlacerda93 1 month ago
Free Jazz is just that. Jazz that is set free... free of form, structure, time signatures, etc.
It's a pure chaos of cool.
aramanth 1 month ago
Oh God...Jazz is my favorite genre of music but this is kinda scary.
KidEllington 1 month ago
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To me this is just harsh noise done with instruments.
PyroPsychZach 1 month ago
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PyroPsychZach 1 month ago
discover new forms through thedreconstruction of old forms
it does not work for everyone
daydreammen 2 months ago
its not really about any musical structure its more about the mood the disorganization gives off
evildogheretic 2 months ago
no overt words, no explicit order but the simple honest mud bath at the shore of consciousness
rainbowaon 2 months ago
This is the first time I listened to free form jazz and to be honest, I don't see why people hate it. I do get why most must take time to get used to this but I just imagine myself walking down a road lined with jazz musicians and hear the overlapping of different rhythms and tunes. I actually like it.
mewantparamore 2 months ago
This is very easy to follow now. Later Ornette is not. These were fine musicians. Still not my favorite form of jazz, it inspired some great musicians and entered the mainstream.
frankthdad 2 months ago
:D cmon people just don't listen to this if you can not enjoy it :) leave the joy to those who appreciate free jazz
chrisianbate 2 months ago
All the instruments are quite obviously doing their own thing with very little coordination or synchronization, but I like trying to listen to the bassline that sort of gets drowned out by the others at times.
XylitoI 2 months ago
This is awful
PLURIC 2 months ago
sweet
falloutdemo 2 months ago
they were giving the middle finger to society's boundaries at the time (1960's) by giving the middle finger to music's boundaries. It's expressionism stemmed from their own political ideals and beliefs. It also called "free" jazz for a reason...
sar1428 2 months ago
...what the fuck?
Hayden1911 2 months ago
who let the hen go out.....XD....
MrParangaricutirimi 2 months ago
Honestly this isn't so bad. Really its kinda peaceful. Its like musical static.
MultiSagitta 2 months ago
pure magic. I love it!
fabiokon 2 months ago
Im a musician, and to me, this sounds like a jazz band warming up before a show. Everyone is doing there own little improv, whether it fits or not. Im not hearing a consistent beat/tempo that any musician is following.... I DONT GET IT!!!
minxkitty8 2 months ago 2
@minxkitty8 Thats the point, free jazz by its very definition a middle finger to musical theroy, with no chords no tempo and very little feel, its a throw back the origins of music with tribal dances adn pure improv. That being said I could only listen to two minutes of it before I went back to trombone shortty and duke Ellington. :P
PoliticalGamers 2 months ago
@minxkitty8
Neither do I, but I think you might be on to something: Maybe this style arose when a few people thought "hey, sounds kinda awesome when we warm up, even though it doesn't make sense lol", and then decided to make something of it :D
Just like, you know, this stuff might've been inspired by someone banging on the piano... and the listener thinking "hey, this sounds kinda cool" ;)
watch?v=PeXy1-UWBS8
twooffour 2 months ago
This is real art!!
KingOfAirguitar 2 months ago
@KingOfAirguitar I tend to agree!!
davidgrahamscott 2 months ago
dam it sounds as if someone is raping a poor bastard in a music shop...
Martiniy0 2 months ago 4
@Mianzz Start by listening to actual jazz.
samehl11 2 months ago
@TheWallGuitar You sir have won the best response award for 2011!
samehl11 2 months ago
ah this is so amazing!
9Aapjes 3 months ago
This is more like art than music... Or music is a form of art... I dunno.. Pardon me, I got no education in music whatsoever. But I am interested to learn how to appreciate different forms of music from classical to blues to jazz.. Any advice?
Mianzz 3 months ago
@Mianzz start listening to Anal Cunt and after that you are able to appreciate anything
9Aapjes 3 months ago
I do love how people use free form jazz as a means to reassure themselves they're sophisticated and intelligent.
On the flip side, I'm not among them. This confuses the hell out of me.
Silicolise 3 months ago
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This is far too complicate for simple understanding listeners. It requires (unfortunately) a higher level of music understanding and even some education.
It makes sense if you already have some understanding of abstract musical structures (that in this case it is not so abstract... try Ferneyhough Time and motion study no.2 or Lachenman Gran Torso). Unfortunately just some steps ahead of the basics......
dandriko71 3 months ago
@dandriko71 i have 12 years of music education. i go to secondary school of music. i absolutely love jazz.
i still dont understand this shit.
DruggedChicken 3 months ago 39
well.... it's nothing to do....
90RODan 3 months ago in playlist Ornette Coleman ~ Free Jazz
@DruggedChicken I have never had musical education and i love this shit. On a sidenote, i'm classified as highly-intelligent.
EpicTomato 3 months ago
@EpicTomato highly intelligent individuals shouldn't feel the need to announce to the petty world of you tube that they possess a "higher" then average IQ(average IQ is decreasing btw) . Doing so completely nullifies ones intelligence.
to translate. this is me, being a smart-ass, calling you a dumb-ass.
while still maintaining my troll
bi2solar 2 months ago
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improvcat1 1 month ago
only textures , feelings .. its like the nature , human nature .. with 12 years you think that you know who are you ? really . stop your mouth and mind .. LISTEN without labels
powofgroove 1 month ago
@powofgroove i didnt say im 12, i said i have 12 years of music education...
DruggedChicken 1 month ago
@DruggedChicken Just goes to prove you need to DROP OUT!!
sallymick27 1 week ago
@DruggedChicken yeah when i started listening to more avantgarde stuff i was like wtf am i hearing, but by listening to hardcore punk , metal, and noise rock (later in life), i realized that classical and modal jazz follow a strict guideline for what notes should be played when, to me the genius to avantgarde/free jazz music is finding those in-between notes and combining then with other notes to form a kind of music that nobody has ever heard before. in a nutshell
Blackdragon5151 1 week ago
@DruggedChicken: Well, that was the general conclusion of most of the eras other Jazz musicians, not to mention the public at large. Audience interest was small and growing smaller and by the '70s the Free Jazz cats in New York were largely playing for each other. As the public came to believe that this was now Jazz they abandoned the art form in droves and it has taken years to rebuild, but the audience is still small compared to what it once was.
aarfeld 4 days ago
@dandriko71 Holy fuck, that's one of the most obnoxious elitist posts i've ever read.
Snitsie 3 months ago 25
@dandriko71 I always found that one of the great things about music is that it bypasses your intellect. Whether you have education or not you can like all kinds of music.I like this music, but you don't need a high education to like it. Anyone can.
jlhyz2 3 months ago 4
@dandriko71 agree with u here, i too hav incredibility high iq so i understaind dis musik very well iven headbeng tu dis... baht i don't care if those avereige ppl still listening to taht stupit justin bieber and classikal musik, ppl will listen to whatever thei like depends on there mood, culture and intlelectuaillty.. i'm sure also that my speilling and grammer will annoi arverage peepell becose it's sum steps ahead of the basics.. and actueilly not so abstracht.
whatstheoutcomeof 3 months ago
@dandriko71 No, it requires a taste of this kind of music to enjoy this kind of music, imbecile. Simple enough.
methodairmoshpit 2 months ago 2
Everybody ho catches an instrument for the first time can play like this. Excuse me but if there is some musician here will nows.
Ricoshete 3 months ago
painting's name??
tatianasiqueiraalves 3 months ago
if you have nothing to feel but bored, then free jazz will sounds good.
AlternativeBT 3 months ago
@AlternativeBT it never sounds good.
You know the face you make when something really hurts?
Yeah I have that with every note here.
TheWallGuitar 2 months ago
@TheWallGuitar hehe, I mean maybe people who get really bored with "good music" (that acually have emotion to convey in those music) will enjoy this. This is simply rebellion to music theory, whereas music thoery exist to make it easier for creating good music. It's okay with experiment as long as the purpose is making good music, not to confuse pepole, but maybe some musician just don't care, that's why free jazz and contemporary music exist.
AlternativeBT 2 months ago
@AlternativeBT Yeah but music theory is somewhat based on what sounds good.
But I got to say, this sounds better then Ornette's Dancing in your head.
What a mess is that!
TheWallGuitar 2 months ago
@TheWallGuitar haha, yeah i check it, the intro is pretty good though. But let me be honest, after listening to it over and over, it's not that bad =D.And actually if you try to search the notes, it train your feel. So listen to it and try to play it accurately is very challenging, but creating and improvising into it is not challenging at all. However I will never buy it!
AlternativeBT 2 months ago
@AlternativeBT I literally laughed when he picked up the violin XD.
TheWallGuitar 2 months ago
we must give players who can not read music and know how to get sound out of an instrument also a chanche to play together and have fun and what nobody understands is art .I do it al the time.
MrH2old 3 months ago
@Hortonhearsawho1994 That's like asking why somebody would keep a diary/journal if they never intended for another person to read it. They recorded it for themselves and like-minded individuals who would understand and appreciate what they were trying to do. And nobody's forcing you or anyone else to listen to it.
DontPieceMe221 3 months ago 3
If free jazz is bad music, then England never wins a football world cup
NatiHistorymaker 3 months ago 2
You have to let this music take you wherever it goes, and no, I don't take drugs.
chas5131 3 months ago
it´s art... just another way of expressing your self...
freekazoid8489 3 months ago
MN TNX!!!!
TheAlterEar 3 months ago
It's angular, baby....
beelzabubba 3 months ago
I love this kind of music. Sure, its crap, but it's just nice to listen to it all being screwed up.
AlanComek 3 months ago
if you are high its perfect
Poitz1995 3 months ago
I just don't unterstand this.
frexxx 3 months ago
Patrick told me to acquire a taste for this.
lostenmusic 4 months ago 5
Maybe I should play this backwards.
klawdio22 4 months ago
I've studied music and especially Jazz, it mainly consists of a lot of improvisation and, hene the name free Jazz. You don't like this song, go back to school.
mathsprofessional 4 months ago
I rate this piece of music at the very top of free jazz. Jazz taught me a long time ago 55 years ago in fact to stop thinking and listen, that all anyone has to do to get the benifit of Jazz, free or otherwise.
steamjazz 4 months ago
i really tried to understand the music and maybe find a real "sense" in it. i swear! But it seems im not ready for this :(
LinkinParkDrummer95 4 months ago
This is honestly a waste of talent, time, money, record space, wood for the instruments, and basically everything else that has to do with being able to play music.
Bassmastajazzyj 4 months ago
@Bassmastajazzyj also a waste of weed. Lots, and LOTS of weed.
kristofor12345 4 months ago
I enjoy lots of jazz music, and really music of almost any genre, but this is dreadful... There is no melody, there is nothing memorable about it. It sounds like the warm up before grade 7 band practice. Nothing musical about it.
Hortonhearsawho1994 4 months ago
@Hortonhearsawho1994 That's really the point. The free jazz movement was against what jazz and music in general had become between the '50's and the 70's. Free jazz musicians play this way because they are expressing themselves, and are doing it for themselves, not an audience.
PrinceRufus2 4 months ago
@PrinceRufus2 But why record music you have written for yourself, if you never intend to have an audience?
I understand what you are saying though, they were simply the hipsters of the 50's lol
Hortonhearsawho1994 4 months ago
@Hortonhearsawho1994
A) Hipster is a Jazz term, originated in the 30s and 40s. It was someone who followed the Jazz Scene, and extended to some of the more image conscious musicians themselves.
B) These Bop era Hipsters actually cared a great deal about music. The Hipster of today is defined by apathy, and knowledge fro the sake of elitism. This is not the same as knowledge for the sake of knowledge, or music for the sake of music.
C) These Free musicians would have died for their beliefs.
42stambo 1 month ago
This sounds kind of pretentious. Like those artwork that has no meaning to it, but honestly the music kind of sound like the inside of my head sometimes. So I'm torn: I don't know if I hate it or love it.
Hyman74Roth 4 months ago
Hip hip hurra, jetzt hab ich Ohrenkrebs........
MrBrenner68 4 months ago
Now I have acquired taste for free form jazz.
mckampela 4 months ago 32
I like most jazz, but I just can´t get into this. Maybe some day in the future, however I doubt it.
WakeUpEveryone 4 months ago
oh, the things you can do with 12 notes...
13neirad 4 months ago
Free jazz is music. Lobsters are crustaceans. I just wanted to prove that I could spell crustacean. Because it's fun to say, just as fun as listening to adults bicker about them. By the way did anyone consider the poor lobster's feelings?
-Yours in growing fins
Rev. Philip Di Tommaso, not the person on this account
Msilikenachos 4 months ago
Why not just listen to the tune.
sitarnut 5 months ago
funny how free jazz seams weirder than Mathcore sometimes !!!!
MrSwac31 5 months ago
I would just say that, like any other art form, Jazz and further more music isn't created for one purpose only. I see free form Jazz as exploration. It's not generally for the listening public as such but to see what happens given certain parameters. It's one aspect of Jazz exaggerated, namely the improvised element. If we didn't experiment how could we grow?We would all be still listening to gregorian chants if we didn't have curiosity. 200 years ago Frank Sinatra would have sounded like this.
SolTetto 5 months ago
I just realised, it's now been 50 years since the release of Free Jazz. What a milestone!
DMfan1994 5 months ago 2
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vadesdecero 5 months ago
step underwater into a lobsters turf, and he will beat the shit out of you.
sinceilostmytooth 5 months ago
47 people did NOT acquire a taste for Freeform Jazz.
ESmaniak 5 months ago
there are nobody playing but heroin
JorgeBrazEta 5 months ago
I come to free form jazz page...and read about lobster.
ASirensSoliloquy 5 months ago in playlist Jazz 5
The purest form of expression. My soul is crying!
machineoffender 5 months ago
My Neighbors are going LOVE this..hehehehe
felipe10 5 months ago 2
I love this, my friend doesn't- we all have different taste and he respects me for liking it. Just shut up and listen if you like it, if you don't then listen to what you prefer.
StonierWilliam 6 months ago
well. maybe i don't get it, but it doesn't sound like music to me... probably there were just 20 stoners, who were given instruments and told to start playing.
Dymyrules 6 months ago
Awesomely wild!!
voicetube 6 months ago
im not really into this paricular sound, has anybody heard of the band yog sothoth from france? know where i can find more like them
lucariololol 6 months ago
I really don't like jazz in general, but this is pretty dope
UltraNuggets 6 months ago
I found this extremely hard to masturbate to.
chiliman93 6 months ago 6
This kind of meandering clearly emphasizes exactly why I have had a hard time getting into jazz. It's like taking bad jazz to its logical extreme. I certainly hope these people were playing in separate rooms when they recorded their parts, because if not, they seriously need hearing aides.
Arglactable 6 months ago
This is amazing ;_; never heard such astral art inducing an eternal orgasm
yumadfoh 6 months ago
it takes a lot of work to sound this bad! :) lol
bassist99909 6 months ago 2
I love it, I love it, I love it:) Thank you very much anyone who upload it here. That's great:)
Babagula89 6 months ago
great music, but i admit that it is hard to listen to.
13neirad 6 months ago
Im here to acquire a taste of Free Form Jazz.
Jonnybooster 6 months ago 3
Listened to the CD in silence not so long ago. Far from outrageous, it struck me as roots music. Sure, the musicians occasionally loose impetus within the group improvisations, but they also have moments when they soar individually and together. Remember that Ornette Coleman was working his ideas out in the performance, not on paper. It was an adventure. As far outside as Free Jazz is, you can hear New Orleans ensembles and the blues through it and in it.
Ign0tu5 6 months ago
Free form jazz is the very embodiment of jazz. The most spontaneous collaboration of music. The instruments talk, each telling their own story. It's a fray of smooth rhythm and bass. It captures the very essence of jazz. it's the free spirit of music. It has soul, pizazz, and attitude.
-Sean Williams, singer, guitarist, and actor
SeanDnB5 6 months ago
bu ne amına koyuyum lan sago haklıymış
ParodiKar 7 months ago
people who dislike this are squares.
BlackburdyTelevision 7 months ago
It's hilarious how many pretentious assholes this music attracts...don't get me wrong though, this shit rules.
EjectedStomach 7 months ago
so bad its good
Hitamaru 7 months ago
If Free Jazz is bad music, then Picasso couldn't draw proper faces.
freakasoit 7 months ago 12
@freakasoit No. Free Jazz is bad music. Picasso is abstract. He had something in mind when he drew stuff. This is pure noise.
TrickyEmu 3 months ago
@TrickyEmu Agreed! If someone locked me into a closet and I had to listen to this I may contemplate suicide. Miles Davis said he had some loose screws!
gjohnsoningary 3 months ago in playlist Ornette Coleman Free Jazz
@TrickyEmu Funny, most people reckon this as abstract music while Picasso hasn't made a single abstract work.
ChrisDulk 3 months ago
@ChrisDulk was about to say that.
thank you for preceding me!
NetherDrakeye 3 months ago
@TrickyEmu this is abstract music. Not all people can appriciate it, just like not all people like Picasso's paintings.
jlhyz2 3 months ago 7
@freakasoit If free jazz is bad music, then that asshole chef who gave me a burned steak with five dog turds on it at carrabba's deserved the asskicking.
kristofor12345 3 months ago
@freakasoit Well, Picasso's art sucked, so yeah.
Arglactable 3 months ago
@Arglactable Just like many people will say that Da Vinci's art was bad. People shouldn't let their personal tastes enter their statements.
IHasTheRabies4Yaoi 3 months ago
@IHasTheRabies4Yaoi Uhhh. Why? No statement concerning the quality of art is objective. And Da Vinci's art is overrated anyway, his scientific contributions are far more interesting.
Arglactable 3 months ago
Preforming near you: "The National autistic pop orchestra."
tooting yer favourite tunes: "Smooth Seizure", "Jazz-jizz-junk", "In an epileptic mood" and "Redrum redrum"
MeneerTiki 7 months ago
or their playing a standard in a bus tumbling down a steep hill.
Maybe this is to high-brow for me, or perhaps my eyebrows should touch for this.
MeneerTiki 7 months ago
1ST YOU MUST ACQUIRE A TASTE FOR, FREE FORM JAZZ
GetDemRimz 7 months ago 4
good or not, hilarious
tapatapaz 7 months ago
haha this is hilarious
tapatapaz 7 months ago
Nope, pretty much sounds like shit to me. Like, this kind of stuff, is it hard to make? It really sounds like a high school band member could some up with this kind of dissonant material where it hardly holds any melody. Either a lot of drugs must be taken to tolerate this or one must be deaf. Oh well. I'll let you guys enjoy this :D
BlarghenSnargle 7 months ago
I liked the part where they played random tones.
Ihatecoldnnnirror 7 months ago 6
@Ihatecoldnnnirror Theres no such part, maybe you confused it with Bullet for my Valentine or some other pop band.
tehpeasant 7 months ago
@tehpeasant Dude, First of all BfmV is not a frickin pop band. Next thing is, I know that free Jazz isn't about playing random notes. Free Jazz is art and good Free Jazz artists do exactly know what they are doing. I was just making a joke.
Ihatecoldnnnirror 7 months ago
lol this is crazy awesome. love it when musicians make music that pisses people off (like half those commenting below). ballsy stufff
thisisavideo111 7 months ago
hmm may be useful music hehe, would be cool on acid
Phazur 7 months ago
Complex, like you on your insides. Beautiful, like you on your outsides. Chaotic, like we all are, throughout.
Lateralus03 8 months ago
I love free jazz, it's a psychedelic experience for sure
TheNeanderthaller 8 months ago
@TheNeanderthaller the original psychedelic music
13neirad 6 months ago
I like it. But I can't really say why
UknownHero0 8 months ago
Ignore the a#@holes who know nothing of great music. Brilliant. Listened to this album in my teens. Only one in H.S. The beautifully dynamic chemistry and fantastically complex artistry produced by Black consciousness, amazes and deeply intimidates the Beast. Display of intellectual bravado tears at the Monster. THEY CANNOT STOP THE MUSIC! WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT! FACE IT! Black just might have a brain, after all.
abusedbynycpolice 8 months ago
u mad?
jctb1337 8 months ago
The problem is that there are people who actually love this music, like me, and then you have the majority who doesn't. The latter often thinks the other group doesn't actually enjoy the music and is tricked into liking it, like the moron talking about the lobster. Face it, there are people who actually love how it sounds, it's not because you don't appreciate it that no-one can. I am not trying to be all intellectual when I listen to dissonant music. I just like it.
1000Eyes0016 8 months ago 30
@1000Eyes0016 while i understand the lobster boys attempt at metaphor i dont understand his seemingly un provoked, ill concieved vitriol, im not saying he is an arse, meerly that he may have arrived at such dull conclusions by using this part of his anatomy to conduct most of his contemplations. music is like food, that much at least (and indeed, most) is true in lobster boys theory, but does anybody have the right to pontificate over which food others enjoy? if you dont like it dont eat it.
djstrongbow 8 months ago
@1000Eyes0016 Well, I guess that radio and tv airplay is just invaded by free jazz, so that people who don't like it just can't escape from listening... Lucky you.
lunacomputacion 8 months ago
@1000Eyes0016 exactly. there are also those who genuinely enjoy lobster. perhaps critics of free jazz fans are suffering from the same intellectual insecurity they project. they also seem to mislabel their own highly subjective views as an honest report of reality, mistaking sincerely held opinions for truth.
billyshitcheese2 5 months ago
well people who hear anything of awesome in this song are either idiots or crazy(not meant as an insult) musicians ; ) I don't like it, but hey, why not?
Murindal 8 months ago
Is this Muic?? Thats awful!!!!!!!!
EBPower24 8 months ago
lol you guys are all assholes
aderandie2 8 months ago
@aderandie2 why ?
AssassinKing19 8 months ago
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Not all music is linear or harmonic. Yes, there is a structure, but it is a basis for change and collective improvisation. The structure evolves as the improvisation changes. Free jazz was free of the confines of a given meter, key, and chordal structure. I tend to think of it as the music of the collective subconscious that has eschewed conventional harmonic structure in favor of a "chaos" that creates a new and ephemeral structure that is unconventionally beautiful and certainly genius.
TubbyMex 8 months ago 2
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TubbyMex 8 months ago
This is perfect to play at high volume in a stressful office.
Staals2 8 months ago 7
Uhhhhhh....
gahzeyboe 8 months ago