è sempre magnifico...ovviamente noi italiani siamo una massa di ignoranti...e inviterei le persone ad informarsi prima di fischiare...abbiamo perso un grande tenore...ed invito nuovamente le persone che hanno commenti negativi a provare a cantare quest'aria e poi vediamo...
@claclasoprano ma scusa tu sai cosa vuol dire Opera? ti sembra una performance degna di un teatro come la Scala? ma per favore! sforza su tutte le note perchè non ce la fa! fischi più che meritati!
@stefix1897 i fischi non erano per l'esecuzione forzata ma per un altro motivo...c'è un altro video dove Alagna viene intervistato dopo l'uscita di scena e spiega il perchè dei fischi...poi per il resto " de gustibus..."
He has such a fine voice-- a real Italian lyric tenor! When he sings the drammatic, spinto roles like Radames, he puts out-- but at the cost of some of the real beauty of the voice. I've heard him sing many beautiful performances at the MET--- in both Italian and French (and with and without the x-wife).
It was beautiful. The sound is dark and virile and sensual. A great singer can sing anything. He can sing Radames. Those trashy Italians who cue up to boo think they sing the arias better in the shower. Viva Alagna! A great artist.
@Qbendanny I disagree. A great singer has the brain and the humility to know that he or she CANNOT sing anything and thus only chooses the assignments to which he or she can do full justice. Being a singer is after all a question of serving the composer, not satisfying your own caprices, and if you do the first, you will appear to much greater advantage in the long run than if you do the last.
@AnnaBariacchis - He can sing Radames brilliantly, he did so at the MET. But, I will agree to a certain extent with you, I don't think he can or should sing Wagner.
I should also mention that this is not the ending that Alagna chose on the night he was booed. That video shows him singing a perfectly acceptable, if maybe a little sharp, mezzo forte b flat, as would be presented by most tenors today. I suspect his whole presentation on that day might have been entirely different. Too bad that all we're shown is the B flat and the boos.
For those who asked: the ending - forte b flat followed by a piano repeat an octave lower - was actually composed by Toscanini in the 1920s for tenors who could not sing the b flat piano as specified by Verdi. This is how Domingo used to sing it.
I, myself, one time when singing this role, was requested by the conductor to sing this ending.
I should mention that Alagna is perfectly capable of singing the piano B flat as written, but chose not to.
IMHO most of these comments are colored by the well known fact that he was booed in this house in this role. While not great it doesn't warrant all this abuse.
In fact his voice is perfectly suited, if not to the role then, at the very least, to this particular aria which, let us not forget, is a dreamy love song.
Unfortunately, Alagna must have figured that the La Scala public would have wanted him to bellow the aria rather than sing with his usual finesse. That's where he got into trouble.
@WorldCupSeoul As I understand the aria ends on a long diminuendo but the orchestra still has a phrase to play. So if a singer ends it on forte and stays like that with open hands while orchestra still plays on piano the effect is lost. It might work with Domingo whose brilliant performance keep audience exited. But Alagna is not that brilliant in this role so he needs to add some singing. So whether you do diminuendo or add some notes. Makes perfect sense for me.
@quizjazz1 It's not really a tradition per se.Actually it was Toscanini who had Richard Tucker (on the recording) make the high B-flat short, breathe, and then repeat "Vicino al sol..." one octave lower a mezza voce in order to retain the effect of morendo in the piece, and at the same time not cripple Tucker (a magnificent Radames) by demanding something from him that very, very, few true dramatic tenors can do. From a lyric tenor like Alagna, one should be able to expect the morendo in tono.
@jmiller05 He just sings way too open through the passagio in general. That's why he labors.. if he had sound technique (resonance a la Pavarotti) he would sound beautiful and not pushy..... And what you call scooping is hooking, bouncing off one note to get to a higher one, which is technically unsound.
i agree that people should not boo a performance. But I found him to be wonderful. I couldn't do that if i tried and out of all the tenors i heard sing this role, he is one of my favorites. This is a heck of a role to pull off for even the most trained voice. He is only doing it the best he knows and can. There is no reason to boo for that.
The media has a lot to answer for - a good looking man with a great voice, married to a beautiful woman with a lovely sound. Who wouldn't want to promote that? I am a working professional singer. I have no idea what a lead role at La Scala pays but I know that I have taken jobs that aren't perfect for me so I can pay the gas bill!
colora40 Ican´t stopp reading all these komments. Jussi del Monako you mean that actor who is standing on stadge must listen when uncivilised is shouting and
booing when tenor is no good enough to there highnessis.,He did right thing and lifted his hand to good bye.I sang 7 years and never heard anything else than applods.
colora40 Iam so angry when I reed all these cheep heads words.One thing is sure that Amerkans fell napalm on wrong place. Met. has been the better place.I wonder if all these people are tenors who satt and listened Alagna.Thaks to all who try to beleav him in future.He is still one of the best tenors to day.
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu j'aime plus ce mec !!!
There was nothing wrong with his performance. The boorish Milanese like to boo at performances to create a simulacrum of discernment. They make New Yorkers look sophisticated. There are plenty of civilized cities who would enjoy M. Alagna's artistry.
@robert3302 - well, I don't know if you are awae of what you are talking about...THIS IS LA SCALA..... Those who booed..are the most demanding audience in THE WHOLE UNIVERSE OF OPERA... spare your pathetic comments for incompetent like you... PLEASE
It's sad that he got booed at La Scala but I really don't think this is One of his best performances. I do think he did try too hard here. I had enjoyed his Don Carlos CD so much though.
@MrOpera67 : Why it's so sad? You sing at La Scala you have to earn it. Pavaroti was booed and he didn't went off. Horrible performance of Alagna that night.
The stagging was superb wow!!!. I guess he did not sang bad, he probably can do it better, but for sure he is one of the best this days!!!! He probably was doing too much in some parts of this "very difficult" aria, but I think he managed to do it very well indeed!! Bravooo Alagna!!!!!
@mauriciomille: because he was bad and the public of La Scala is very demanding. He was not alloud to come back the next evening because he went off stage when the public booed him.
@Amusement73 bad in wich sence?, he sings well isnt?, was desafinated?, if i were him, i ask to the public to come here and sing it. what do they do?, hahaha, the public must be shut up. He is a very good singer isnt?, paul potts is who one to be booed.... but he will never sings in la scala di milan, hehehe nor in his drreams
Non è il suo repertorio, fa una fatica pazzesca e si sente, non dimentichiamo poi che questo è l'inizio dell'opera, figuriamoci alla fine...poraccio cosa non si deve fare per campare
HE has a great exciting voice. What are you people talking about??? Maybe he did try a bit too hard to impress, but still leaves the fact that he has an extraordinary beautiful voice.
Alagna is not in the right tone. He underreaches the high notes. He sounds like a tired barytone who desperately tries to atteign the crests of the aria.
No wonder he was booed at La Scala...
Please, listen to Luciano Pavarotti in the same aria, in 1986, at La Scala, or to Carlo Bergonzi. These are real tenors...
Personally, I also don't like it much even though it's adored by so many. I find it cheesy... but that's just me. Verdi was still an amazing composer and we'll hear his music for centuries to come.
I didn't think it was bad at all. Certainly not in league with the giants, like Corelli, Del Monaco and the others but thought it was better than many of the bad comments
below. I guess that's not saying much. But
hell, his wife is gorgeous and sings like an angel. That's more than I've accomplished. What the hell.
ouch...not to be rude but the main problem is the tone...his voice doesn't suit this role and so he tries to force it...it sounds like he's pushing and in the top notes he doesn't sound right in tune and there is a wobble....sounds kind of sharp...hes a good tenor but not for this type of repertoire...he is overly ambitious and his voice has suffered because of it
i totally agree and i think that is why he adds a "vicino al sol." at the end, so that he ends the aria not on a highnote, which doen't suite his voice in this aria.
otherwise i like some of his highnotes, as romeo for example
@jgdmol4l The real problem is that the record companies, the PR people, the agents and the opera houses go along with this foolishness. Somebody - the intendant, his manager, the conductor, his mother - should have told him: "Roberto caro, tu non sei certo un Radames. Lascialo perdere." Still, it wasn't bad enough to be booed. There was some other intrigue going on here.
Aside from the hideous performance, what a joke that such a tiny voiced lyric tenor would even be allowed to sing the role of Radames. The role required a huge voiced singer like Kurt Baum, Franco Corelli, or Richard Tucked.. Opera is a joke today. At least some of the audience of La Scala recall what it used to be like.
Neither side won. Alagna had a chance to prove himself through out the opera and booers and the audience had to sit through and listen to the replacement til the end. Prides on both side ruined a night for the innocent by stand.
Just not the role for his lovely voice "Live". Perhaps in the recording studio? I doubt if the could have carried the ensemble pieces later where a more spinto instrument is demanded. Listen carefully to the b-flats, he is not quite on "top" of them. Remember, one has to walk out "cold" & sing this. It's a bear!!! I am still a fan though. He is one of the best.
Alagna was one of the best! And 'old and may not be more attentive to the sound as it was before! Here the passaggio is a little 'back, and the final note is very broad back, he feels that he's tired!
But the SOL some are good, it's strange! In general could do better, but still a great!
alagna con los papeles de puccini es genial pero la verdad los roles heroicos de verdi no le quedan bien debido a sus caracteristicas vocales, roles como el de pagliacci (2008) le quedan muchos mas a su voz, recordemos que aida es escrita casi especificamente para los tenores lirico-spinto
Verdi marks the beginning of the Aria piano and the High Bb at the end pianissimo morendo. Only one note is actually Forte "with enthusiasm" otherwise there are constant reminders of ppp and pppp!
In trying to live up top public expectations, singers ignore composers' intentions.
That's because for almost every tenor this would only be possible by singing falsetto, and that's not acceptable anymore. Not necessarily the singer's fault.
Well, yeah. But try singing a Bb or even higher notes pp. It's almost impossible, you (or at least I, but then I'm a high baritone) need a pretty strong and steady air flow to sustain those notes, and that translates into loudness.
Corelli was one who could do a really good diminuendo on this Bb, but even he had to start out loud to get access to the note.
@brunobrandy That's why I said for ALMOST every tenor it's not possible to sing it pianissimo. And even Corelli cheats by starting in forte, therefore getting a grip on the note before he does his brilliant diminuendo.
...with which we're back at my original point that it's impossible to sing the note as written without using falsetto. Corelli does the best non-falsetto attempt , and you're absolutely right, it's necessary that he starts forte.
I've found a few tenors who sing it as written. Koloman von Pataky singing the aria in 1929, but he's a lyric. Slezak sings it pianissimo, but then makes a crescendo, and Schock sings it falsetto.
Looks like the German school didn't discredit falsetto as early.
I actually like this guy but he sounds...not good hear. It sounds as if his voice is going to give out him at any moment. He's sounds even more so like that these days. His time is quickly winding down simply despite his age.
No, Verdi stated that every singer who could NOT do the last vicino al sol pppp and morendo should do this last vicino al sol an octave lower and pppp.
No es un rol para Alagna, gran voz pero Aida no es para el, ni estilisticamente ni técnicamente. No transmite nada y le falta buen gusto , algo de Belcantísmo en éste aria no le vendría mal.
I like his singing but not in this aria. Thinking in your way i can asume that any singer can sing anything, no matter what people think, but in some cases they can do awsome performances singing songs for their voices...so good that they ll never know if they dont try.
Coming from a musician's and performer's perspective I don't think Alagna has the voice to play this role. Perhaps with better training he will rise to greatness, but for now he sounds like a newb using very poor technique. It would be like me playing Aida and no one wants to hear that! He has great potential if he would take lessons and wait a while before taking on such a difficult role.
He got booed because he his voice is not suited for this role. He has an unpleasant blat to his voice that I find very annoying. I heard Corelli sing Radames in Rome in 1969 and believe me, Alagna is no Corelli. Not even close. I saw Alagna today in La Rondine at the MET and he was dreadful in that role as well. His only virtue is that he is married to one of the finest sopranos of our age. He pales in comparison.
Hmm... Its because he pushes and scoops and it ruins him. If he had a good technique he'd be a wonderful singer. He has a huge voice and its a very nice voice, but his technique is very bad.
cos'ha di male la regia?non sarà l'aida del secolo ma sempre meglio di quegli pseudo registi votati al minimalismo che fanno una scenografia con mezzo faraone su sfondo nero!
non c'è nessuna regia. come ormai succede da molti anni. in molti grandi teatri si pensa alla scenografia che anche quando è minimalista costa milioni. (grande mistero) e non si fa altro cheLAlSCIAR FARE AI POVERI CANTANTI. CREDO CHE OGGI ALAGNA POTREBBE CANTARE BENISSIMO RADAMES, SE SI PENSASSE AD UNO SPETTACOLO DOVE I PERSONAGGI SIANO GIOVANI, DOVE LE PASSIONI SIANO ACERBE. INVECE VIVIAMO SEMPRE CON LO SPETTRO DEI CANTANTI DEL PASSATO CHE A ME PIACIONO MOLTISSIMO.
p.s. mi ero dimenticato: dai un'occhiata a quell'orrendo don carlo che ha inaugurato la scala quest'anno..una cosa orrenda, cento volte meglio l'edizione di zefirelli del '92 (che pure non era un capolavoro..)
per quanto riguarda alagna ma questo il legato sa cos'è?mi sa che non gliel'hanno insegnato..!
By the way, I am of Sicilian heritage too. Provincial is not a bad word. However do not try to say that Palermo is at the same level of La Scala. I have been polite in my answers to your posts, because I do not think it should be otherwise. If you think that someone who does not share 100% your opinions deserves the rude remarks of your latest post then I am not interested in talking about music nor anything else with you.
Un cantante che meritava il meglio,aveva tutto:voce,facilita.colore e fisico per fare una garnde carriera.Invece la sua arroganza e ignoranza lo hanno portato a questo triste spettacolo.
Come se non bastasse e andato a soposarsi con una peggio ancora di lui,dio li fa e poi l'accopia......
He was sick that day, that does not have anything to do with his arrogance and ignorance. Human voice is a very delicate musical instrument. It was very rude from behalf the audience to boo him. Even the best singers can have a bad day. I think his reaction was quite human, probably not very mature, but very human indeed. As an italian yourself you should understand what hot blood means.
I am sorry but that is a poor excuse,i have heard him from the very beggining of his career and he is a shadow of what he was.This is not his repertoire,the voice is hard and many times out of tune.Previously his Trovatore at Palermo was even worst.I do not agree with booing as I consider that an ill-mannered way tipically Italian,the worst objection is to stay silent as the palermo public did when he sang the big aria in the second act.
He is a a provincial guy that never got out of the gheto.
You don't understand:he was not sick,and even if he was then it would be quite irresponsible to sing at La Scala on opening night not "feeling well".
The truth is that a great career has been thrown away just because he has no idea of his real repertoire and is married to a woman that sees only money and fame as her ultimate goal,nothing else no artistry nothing.
Do not get me wrong, I never liked him. I I find painful his L´Elisit d´amore. His E lucevan le stelle is also painful, but I believe him when he talks about his illness. Nobody will make up such an excuse to justify a tantrum. He is indeed a provincial guy, but so what? Caruso was a provincial guy too. Even Verdi was a provincial guy. By the way Palermo is more provincial than Milano and as you said sicilians behaved much better than Lombardi.
Then at least you agree with me in one point:the repertoire that he sings now is totally wrong for him.Caruso was born very poor but he elevated his origins when became a great tenor,the problem with Alagna is the remained the same,provintial and uncultured.Verdi's family were wealthy and it is a urban legend that he was from humble origins,just an stupidity.
Palermo more provintial than Milan?You have no idea of the cultural heritage of Sicily and its people.Talk about music please.
take care with these statements. such a rumour (wasting his voice etc.) can really kill his career. imho this time he was really tired, or got cold. it is not so bad, so please don't bury him alive.
such rumours killed mario lanza much before his real decline, this is just malice.
yeah, and i have to state that i am not a fan of him, but i can't bear injustice.
MaikHaeber, are you really so naive to believe what you wrote? People believe any rumour even it is proved not to be true just to have some sensation. They will believe any rumour about you too, and you can be a dead man, or a star in a minute. You cannot underestimate enough people's stupidity: so this can really kill anyone'
ESto apesta y no se por que..
NinosProdigios 5 days ago
un esercitooooooodiproooodiiiiiiiidameeeeee,.......tutto che balla! un orrore. Ed è pure uscito il DVD in edicola! l'ho preso: Alagna è un insulto!
krampus671 5 days ago
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
facatnabi 1 month ago
questa è una offesa all'Opera Italiana...
sttar1982 1 month ago
è sempre magnifico...ovviamente noi italiani siamo una massa di ignoranti...e inviterei le persone ad informarsi prima di fischiare...abbiamo perso un grande tenore...ed invito nuovamente le persone che hanno commenti negativi a provare a cantare quest'aria e poi vediamo...
claclasoprano 1 month ago
@claclasoprano ma scusa tu sai cosa vuol dire Opera? ti sembra una performance degna di un teatro come la Scala? ma per favore! sforza su tutte le note perchè non ce la fa! fischi più che meritati!
stefix1897 1 month ago
@stefix1897 i fischi non erano per l'esecuzione forzata ma per un altro motivo...c'è un altro video dove Alagna viene intervistato dopo l'uscita di scena e spiega il perchè dei fischi...poi per il resto " de gustibus..."
claclasoprano 1 month ago
Yikes!
Octavoification 3 months ago
He pushes every syllable and puts pressure on the voice which causes the flutter to go get worse. The result is tiresome both to singer and audience.
chaiter1 3 months ago 2
He has such a fine voice-- a real Italian lyric tenor! When he sings the drammatic, spinto roles like Radames, he puts out-- but at the cost of some of the real beauty of the voice. I've heard him sing many beautiful performances at the MET--- in both Italian and French (and with and without the x-wife).
olympicrange 5 months ago
terrible
signorinissimo 5 months ago
Thank God Verdi's dead.
teapartypublishing 5 months ago
e pensare che una volta cantava corelli.....
povera scala
fra1979it 6 months ago 7
It was beautiful. The sound is dark and virile and sensual. A great singer can sing anything. He can sing Radames. Those trashy Italians who cue up to boo think they sing the arias better in the shower. Viva Alagna! A great artist.
Qbendanny 6 months ago
@Qbendanny I disagree. A great singer has the brain and the humility to know that he or she CANNOT sing anything and thus only chooses the assignments to which he or she can do full justice. Being a singer is after all a question of serving the composer, not satisfying your own caprices, and if you do the first, you will appear to much greater advantage in the long run than if you do the last.
AnnaBariacchis 4 months ago
@AnnaBariacchis - He can sing Radames brilliantly, he did so at the MET. But, I will agree to a certain extent with you, I don't think he can or should sing Wagner.
Qbendanny 4 months ago
@Qbendanny I wasn't referring to Alagna, it was a general observation :)
AnnaBariacchis 4 months ago
@AnnaBariacchis You are absolutely right! Alagna is a lyric tenor and Aida is for bigger dramatic voices
Kenshin22able 3 months ago
I should also mention that this is not the ending that Alagna chose on the night he was booed. That video shows him singing a perfectly acceptable, if maybe a little sharp, mezzo forte b flat, as would be presented by most tenors today. I suspect his whole presentation on that day might have been entirely different. Too bad that all we're shown is the B flat and the boos.
TedinNY 6 months ago
For those who asked: the ending - forte b flat followed by a piano repeat an octave lower - was actually composed by Toscanini in the 1920s for tenors who could not sing the b flat piano as specified by Verdi. This is how Domingo used to sing it.
I, myself, one time when singing this role, was requested by the conductor to sing this ending.
I should mention that Alagna is perfectly capable of singing the piano B flat as written, but chose not to.
TedinNY 6 months ago 5
IMHO most of these comments are colored by the well known fact that he was booed in this house in this role. While not great it doesn't warrant all this abuse.
In fact his voice is perfectly suited, if not to the role then, at the very least, to this particular aria which, let us not forget, is a dreamy love song.
Unfortunately, Alagna must have figured that the La Scala public would have wanted him to bellow the aria rather than sing with his usual finesse. That's where he got into trouble.
TedinNY 6 months ago
mamma mia mi fa male la gola a sentirlo....Smetto va'....
maxpertile 7 months ago
boh...per me è ingolato. Sarà che sono abituato ad altre voci...anzi, ad altre tecniche. Che corde d'acciaio. E' un miracolo che canti ancora.
maxpertile 7 months ago
this is not his role... he can't have a role like Bocelli... like mr jackson or shakira...he isn't a singer but a pappapparaaaparappappapara
peppesci87 8 months ago
Une rousse égyptienne! Oh mon dieu ...
biacisne 9 months ago
this has an edit in it. Why?
WorldCupSeoul 10 months ago
@WorldCupSeoul As I understand the aria ends on a long diminuendo but the orchestra still has a phrase to play. So if a singer ends it on forte and stays like that with open hands while orchestra still plays on piano the effect is lost. It might work with Domingo whose brilliant performance keep audience exited. But Alagna is not that brilliant in this role so he needs to add some singing. So whether you do diminuendo or add some notes. Makes perfect sense for me.
quizjazz1 9 months ago
@quizjazz1 It's not really a tradition per se.Actually it was Toscanini who had Richard Tucker (on the recording) make the high B-flat short, breathe, and then repeat "Vicino al sol..." one octave lower a mezza voce in order to retain the effect of morendo in the piece, and at the same time not cripple Tucker (a magnificent Radames) by demanding something from him that very, very, few true dramatic tenors can do. From a lyric tenor like Alagna, one should be able to expect the morendo in tono.
assindiastignani 9 months ago
The voice already developed fixations, flutter and "shouting" pushy quality in some places. Very unwise decision to push it to such heavy roles.
This is a far cry from the promising debut CD's of this tenor.
And all the shortcomings of his technique are revealed here.
chaiter1 11 months ago
Far too heavy a role for his lyric voice. Starts scooping madly half-way through the aria, and his top notes are inevitably laboured as a result.
Lyric singers today just don't seem to understand the limitations of their fach. Aida is not lyric territory.
jmiller05 1 year ago
@jmiller05 He just sings way too open through the passagio in general. That's why he labors.. if he had sound technique (resonance a la Pavarotti) he would sound beautiful and not pushy..... And what you call scooping is hooking, bouncing off one note to get to a higher one, which is technically unsound.
IbranandoBaritone 1 year ago
c'etait au premier?
harvinsky 1 year ago
i agree that people should not boo a performance. But I found him to be wonderful. I couldn't do that if i tried and out of all the tenors i heard sing this role, he is one of my favorites. This is a heck of a role to pull off for even the most trained voice. He is only doing it the best he knows and can. There is no reason to boo for that.
Renthead1414 1 year ago
The media has a lot to answer for - a good looking man with a great voice, married to a beautiful woman with a lovely sound. Who wouldn't want to promote that? I am a working professional singer. I have no idea what a lead role at La Scala pays but I know that I have taken jobs that aren't perfect for me so I can pay the gas bill!
Glibtrem 1 year ago
I wouldnt boo, its certainly not perfect but it isnt bad either! Well......they also booed Callas.......
Elried 1 year ago 2
colora40 Ican´t stopp reading all these komments. Jussi del Monako you mean that actor who is standing on stadge must listen when uncivilised is shouting and
booing when tenor is no good enough to there highnessis.,He did right thing and lifted his hand to good bye.I sang 7 years and never heard anything else than applods.
colora40 1 year ago
colora40 Iam so angry when I reed all these cheep heads words.One thing is sure that Amerkans fell napalm on wrong place. Met. has been the better place.I wonder if all these people are tenors who satt and listened Alagna.Thaks to all who try to beleav him in future.He is still one of the best tenors to day.
colora40 1 year ago
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu j'aime plus ce mec !!!
jphk20 1 year ago
@jphk20 Ce type est une blague, il vaudrait mieux le tuer.
claudiocp35 1 year ago
BUUUUUUUUUU
Lirico96 1 year ago
There was nothing wrong with his performance. The boorish Milanese like to boo at performances to create a simulacrum of discernment. They make New Yorkers look sophisticated. There are plenty of civilized cities who would enjoy M. Alagna's artistry.
robert3302 1 year ago
@robert3302 - well, I don't know if you are awae of what you are talking about...THIS IS LA SCALA..... Those who booed..are the most demanding audience in THE WHOLE UNIVERSE OF OPERA... spare your pathetic comments for incompetent like you... PLEASE
Italicorum3500 1 year ago
umm stick to carmen lol
MrMrmike5 1 year ago
HORRIBLE
GuilleBellamy 1 year ago
He doesn't even have the presence or charisma to carry off this role. He just blends in to the scenery.
MsDarkblade 1 year ago
[ ... ] " E a te, mia dolce GILDA, tornar di Lauri cinto ! " ORRENDO.
31122051 1 year ago
It's sad that he got booed at La Scala but I really don't think this is One of his best performances. I do think he did try too hard here. I had enjoyed his Don Carlos CD so much though.
MrOpera67 1 year ago
@MrOpera67 : Why it's so sad? You sing at La Scala you have to earn it. Pavaroti was booed and he didn't went off. Horrible performance of Alagna that night.
Amusement73 1 year ago
@Amusement73 True.
MrOpera67 1 year ago
The stagging was superb wow!!!. I guess he did not sang bad, he probably can do it better, but for sure he is one of the best this days!!!! He probably was doing too much in some parts of this "very difficult" aria, but I think he managed to do it very well indeed!! Bravooo Alagna!!!!!
tenorschofield 1 year ago
no wonder they booed him
zhangshinyi 1 year ago
why he was abuuchated 'boo' boo'???? and then they didnt let him come back again???, thanks
mauriciomille 1 year ago
@mauriciomille: because he was bad and the public of La Scala is very demanding. He was not alloud to come back the next evening because he went off stage when the public booed him.
Amusement73 1 year ago
@Amusement73 bad in wich sence?, he sings well isnt?, was desafinated?, if i were him, i ask to the public to come here and sing it. what do they do?, hahaha, the public must be shut up. He is a very good singer isnt?, paul potts is who one to be booed.... but he will never sings in la scala di milan, hehehe nor in his drreams
mauriciomille 1 year ago
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JussidelMonaco 1 year ago
Not bad. Radames needs a heroic voice, and Kaufmann can't be everywhere. Arancam is probably the next best.
raythespian 1 year ago
why he was invited to sing Radames to begin with?
Bad singing!BAD!
MegaBreez 1 year ago
Non è il suo repertorio, fa una fatica pazzesca e si sente, non dimentichiamo poi che questo è l'inizio dell'opera, figuriamoci alla fine...poraccio cosa non si deve fare per campare
tenoraccio 1 year ago
Bravo!
BrianJosephMorgan 1 year ago
BRAVISSIMO
boy170ful 1 year ago
soffre sulle basse
19swan61 1 year ago
Is that lip gloss? Looks a bit...peculiar.
Pollione88 1 year ago
HE has a great exciting voice. What are you people talking about??? Maybe he did try a bit too hard to impress, but still leaves the fact that he has an extraordinary beautiful voice.
gharusa 1 year ago 2
@gharusa I do agree with you, but for those paid lot money to see him... do you think they would agree with you?
Leave the house, get ready, get traffic, find the sits, pay lot money to be there... and boom
he didnt try to hard... so why not to forgive him? RIGHT?
RonaldBarone 1 year ago
Jeez... he sounds like the Cowardly Lion!
flutebat 1 year ago
Thats such a cool crown!!!!
nostopsnopurgatory 1 year ago
wtf
krajncrocky1 2 years ago
Yea, very sharp on almost every high note. Sad because his voice has such a beautiful tone
Ironfootx 2 years ago
Meritava i fischi nè più né meno che alla prima.
Vendimi3 2 years ago
out of tune almost all the time
cornificius22vain 2 years ago
HORRIBLE !
Alagna is not in the right tone. He underreaches the high notes. He sounds like a tired barytone who desperately tries to atteign the crests of the aria.
No wonder he was booed at La Scala...
Please, listen to Luciano Pavarotti in the same aria, in 1986, at La Scala, or to Carlo Bergonzi. These are real tenors...
WANK83 2 years ago 2
@WANK83 I agree. Alagna has faded
rather quickly. He's off pitch, his vibrato
is wide and he seems like he's burned
out his vocal chords. The crowd at
LaScala was rough, but they're used
to excellence.
brunobrandy 2 years ago 6
うまいなぁ。曲げ方がすごいと思う。
RoughSeaShineHusband 2 years ago 2
Altamente "SFINTERICO" osarei dire! Qualcuno condivide??? :-)
belfaghor71 2 years ago
he is NOT radames
bnseyhann 2 years ago
Alagna even here is not in a right tone-control. This is not the precise tonality of this aria!
OperaAdmirer 2 years ago
It's similar to what I would imagine Bocelli to sound like if he were to attempt this same aria.
billthaxton 2 years ago
too drammatic for his voice
LETTIS79 2 years ago
This aria is quite boring... even performed by other singers.
guilhem32 2 years ago
Personally, I also don't like it much even though it's adored by so many. I find it cheesy... but that's just me. Verdi was still an amazing composer and we'll hear his music for centuries to come.
Jaydoggy531 2 years ago
che schifo... ma perché non prendono un tenore capace...?
Kuseikos 2 years ago
Ma chi l'ha fatto entrare alla Scala???
TheChiambretti 2 years ago
il direttore d'orchestra.Vibrato schifoso sembra un belato
luigipavabartolotti 2 years ago
mamma mia che brutto canto....scusate
enzogrella1 2 years ago
Peraltro registrazione ritoccatissima, perché in sala non si sentiva un cazzo, perdonatemi il francesismo.
edraith 2 years ago
I didn't think it was bad at all. Certainly not in league with the giants, like Corelli, Del Monaco and the others but thought it was better than many of the bad comments
below. I guess that's not saying much. But
hell, his wife is gorgeous and sings like an angel. That's more than I've accomplished. What the hell.
joelweisberg 2 years ago
ouch...not to be rude but the main problem is the tone...his voice doesn't suit this role and so he tries to force it...it sounds like he's pushing and in the top notes he doesn't sound right in tune and there is a wobble....sounds kind of sharp...hes a good tenor but not for this type of repertoire...he is overly ambitious and his voice has suffered because of it
jgdmol4l 2 years ago 17
@jgdmol4l
i totally agree and i think that is why he adds a "vicino al sol." at the end, so that he ends the aria not on a highnote, which doen't suite his voice in this aria.
otherwise i like some of his highnotes, as romeo for example
trombo8 1 year ago
@jgdmol4l He does seem to go a little sharp. He does have a good voice however. Hope he hasn't done much damage.
jennie12ish 1 year ago
@jgdmol4l I don't like his voice at all. I think that's why they made him walk out. I just don't like it.
RoOodOoOloOmeg 11 months ago
@jgdmol4l The real problem is that the record companies, the PR people, the agents and the opera houses go along with this foolishness. Somebody - the intendant, his manager, the conductor, his mother - should have told him: "Roberto caro, tu non sei certo un Radames. Lascialo perdere." Still, it wasn't bad enough to be booed. There was some other intrigue going on here.
assindiastignani 9 months ago 2
Sarà stato vaccinato contro il cimurro !!!!????
TheMenelik60 2 years ago
thank god... they browned the Egyptians
sobatinyela 2 years ago
your comment is the most pertinent of all. :)
reclamantul 2 years ago
sostanzialmente inascoltabile.
WINSTONS123 2 years ago
Aside from the hideous performance, what a joke that such a tiny voiced lyric tenor would even be allowed to sing the role of Radames. The role required a huge voiced singer like Kurt Baum, Franco Corelli, or Richard Tucked.. Opera is a joke today. At least some of the audience of La Scala recall what it used to be like.
AUDIOPHlLE 2 years ago
Neither side won. Alagna had a chance to prove himself through out the opera and booers and the audience had to sit through and listen to the replacement til the end. Prides on both side ruined a night for the innocent by stand.
steakopera 2 years ago
Just not the role for his lovely voice "Live". Perhaps in the recording studio? I doubt if the could have carried the ensemble pieces later where a more spinto instrument is demanded. Listen carefully to the b-flats, he is not quite on "top" of them. Remember, one has to walk out "cold" & sing this. It's a bear!!! I am still a fan though. He is one of the best.
Lovelytenor1 2 years ago
Alagna was one of the best! And 'old and may not be more attentive to the sound as it was before! Here the passaggio is a little 'back, and the final note is very broad back, he feels that he's tired!
But the SOL some are good, it's strange! In general could do better, but still a great!
Eruption1910 2 years ago
el publico lo abucho principalmente fue por algo ajeno a la interpretacion que tuvo, segun me cuentan
Manu1819 2 years ago
alagna con los papeles de puccini es genial pero la verdad los roles heroicos de verdi no le quedan bien debido a sus caracteristicas vocales, roles como el de pagliacci (2008) le quedan muchos mas a su voz, recordemos que aida es escrita casi especificamente para los tenores lirico-spinto
Manu1819 2 years ago 3
ben oui, c'est votre tête de turc, vous avez parfaitement le droit, comme d'autres ont le droit de l'apprécier .
gcalvet81 2 years ago
PLEASE : LISTEN TO PAVAROTTI'S "AÏDA". Not to this tired baritone...
WANK83 2 years ago
Tired baritone - :)))) this is so true!
davit1982 2 years ago
Verdi marks the beginning of the Aria piano and the High Bb at the end pianissimo morendo. Only one note is actually Forte "with enthusiasm" otherwise there are constant reminders of ppp and pppp!
In trying to live up top public expectations, singers ignore composers' intentions.
1401JSC 2 years ago
That's because for almost every tenor this would only be possible by singing falsetto, and that's not acceptable anymore. Not necessarily the singer's fault.
piasecznik 2 years ago
I thought one of the reasons for practising messa di voce was to control dynamics on every singable note from pp to ff.
If singers can't do this "any more" then the public will never know the composer's intentions.
JSC1401 2 years ago
Well, yeah. But try singing a Bb or even higher notes pp. It's almost impossible, you (or at least I, but then I'm a high baritone) need a pretty strong and steady air flow to sustain those notes, and that translates into loudness.
Corelli was one who could do a really good diminuendo on this Bb, but even he had to start out loud to get access to the note.
piasecznik 2 years ago
@piasecznik No one did it better than
Corelli.
brunobrandy 2 years ago
@piasecznik Check out Corelli at the
end of this. It was not falsetto and was
done briliantly.
brunobrandy 2 years ago
@brunobrandy That's why I said for ALMOST every tenor it's not possible to sing it pianissimo. And even Corelli cheats by starting in forte, therefore getting a grip on the note before he does his brilliant diminuendo.
piasecznik 2 years ago
@piasecznik I understand what you're
trying to say, but getting a "grip" on a
note is simply the proper and superior
technique along with the incredible
instrument Corelli had. At least you
recognize his ability to do so. Many
think that Corelli just sang"balls to
the wall" all the time like DelMonaco
but he was a true artist.
brunobrandy 2 years ago
...with which we're back at my original point that it's impossible to sing the note as written without using falsetto. Corelli does the best non-falsetto attempt , and you're absolutely right, it's necessary that he starts forte.
I've found a few tenors who sing it as written. Koloman von Pataky singing the aria in 1929, but he's a lyric. Slezak sings it pianissimo, but then makes a crescendo, and Schock sings it falsetto.
Looks like the German school didn't discredit falsetto as early.
piasecznik 2 years ago
Agreed on the Monaco part. There's a very nice video of him screaming the shit out of Mattinata for two minutes here on YouTube.
Honken 2 years ago
I actually like this guy but he sounds...not good hear. It sounds as if his voice is going to give out him at any moment. He's sounds even more so like that these days. His time is quickly winding down simply despite his age.
jmsmth14 2 years ago
that lower vicino al sol?? is he adding to the aria?
btsg 2 years ago
No, Verdi stated that every singer who could NOT do the last vicino al sol pppp and morendo should do this last vicino al sol an octave lower and pppp.
piasecznik 2 years ago
d'accord avec Inferno Da Baka .
Je dis aussi comme tenoregrande bravo maestro Alagna .
J' ai l'impression que sur youtube la tête de turc c'est Roberto, mais il y a tellement de gens qui l'aiment laissons de côté les aigris .
gcalvet81 2 years ago
Vous plaisantez
Ca un ténor
Qu'il chante du luis Mariano cela lui va mieux
MrAinouz 2 years ago
No es un rol para Alagna, gran voz pero Aida no es para el, ni estilisticamente ni técnicamente. No transmite nada y le falta buen gusto , algo de Belcantísmo en éste aria no le vendría mal.
xjavierss 2 years ago 7
There is too much vibrato...It makes the notes sounds flat or even sharp...
robcaper 2 years ago
This doesn't work at all. Ew.
I miss Pava...
dee1153 2 years ago
alagna doesn't make it sound easy at all does he?
raythetse 2 years ago
NO.. He sounds more like a tired baritone to me!
BKgaard 2 years ago
Well, true, but that never held Domingo back, did it?
colino72 2 years ago
I too miss Pavarotti.... this alagna sucks ass
catholicdude1973 2 years ago
Here it's different. I understand.
InfernoDaBaka 2 years ago
Certified Intergalactic! For a self-taught. Bravoooo Alagna! I salute his guts! He could be good at Mozart though.
Hey, Pavarotti couldn't read notes!
Dogaradodia 2 years ago
Alagna shouldnt sing arias too lyrics for his voice. I dont whats he s thinking he is not that lyiric
MarioVS23 2 years ago
He shouldn't sing it but he can. SO........ just your opinion.
InfernoDaBaka 2 years ago
I like his singing but not in this aria. Thinking in your way i can asume that any singer can sing anything, no matter what people think, but in some cases they can do awsome performances singing songs for their voices...so good that they ll never know if they dont try.
MarioVS23 2 years ago
Yeah I agree I don't like him in this aria too. But the disturbing thing is that you said : "he is not that lyric".
On that thing i don't agree
InfernoDaBaka 2 years ago
i meant he is a leggiero lyric tenor, not so lyiric as this aria requires.
MarioVS23 2 years ago
He's not leggiero at ALL, Pavarotti's voice was lighter than his. His voice is just ugly, and the way he sings is even uglier.
DemonTaoist 2 years ago
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Déjense de joder es un aria jodidísima, un mazaso Carreras nunca la pudo hacer bien, la hace muy dignamente, Bravo Alagna!!!!
Alagares43 2 years ago
Déjense de joder es un aria jodidísima, un mazaso Carreras nunca la pudo hacer bien, la hace muy dignamente, Bravo Alagna!!!!
Alagares43 2 years ago
This guy has just mudered this Aria
mgdoom 2 years ago
Very bad...
Matteo7419 2 years ago 4
c'est nul de huer un ténor même s'il est mauvais, en l'occurrence ce n'est pas le cas.
896423658 2 years ago
J'ai entendu une très belle phrase un jour. Ceux qui savent font et ceux qui ne savent pas critiquent.
Cela reflète exactement la mentalité des utilisateurs de youtube. Beaucoup d'ouvrage de gueule avec aucun argument
InfernoDaBaka 2 years ago
tu as raison totalement.
896423658 2 years ago
This is a pleasing performance though not the best I've heard. He did not deserve to be booed off the stage.
gocadets 3 years ago
Hatte er einen schlechten Tag?
Schikamerad 3 years ago
in english please? nobody in this forum speaks german.
lacigarrados 2 years ago
That's not quite right...
sedahedonja 2 years ago
you should learn german, bastard! du solltest deutsch lernen du kühlärschiger steinkopf
Cavaradossi1981 2 years ago
Every day is a bad day for Alagna.
Honken 2 years ago 9
@Honken And for the rest of the world!
31071946 1 year ago
isn't it a bit throaty? I don't hear much head resonance
jezHB333 3 years ago 4
that's alagna for you :) at least, alagna from 1998 and on.
JuillHope17 3 years ago
Coming from a musician's and performer's perspective I don't think Alagna has the voice to play this role. Perhaps with better training he will rise to greatness, but for now he sounds like a newb using very poor technique. It would be like me playing Aida and no one wants to hear that! He has great potential if he would take lessons and wait a while before taking on such a difficult role.
operachik001 3 years ago 4
I think there are other roles that he is definitely more suited for. He is a fantastic werther.
jrynz 3 years ago
He got booed because he his voice is not suited for this role. He has an unpleasant blat to his voice that I find very annoying. I heard Corelli sing Radames in Rome in 1969 and believe me, Alagna is no Corelli. Not even close. I saw Alagna today in La Rondine at the MET and he was dreadful in that role as well. His only virtue is that he is married to one of the finest sopranos of our age. He pales in comparison.
harley75604 3 years ago
I dont understand anythink, alagna sung this so nicely and well, Why the heck did he get booed?
tena2 3 years ago
Hmm... Its because he pushes and scoops and it ruins him. If he had a good technique he'd be a wonderful singer. He has a huge voice and its a very nice voice, but his technique is very bad.
IbranandoBaritone 3 years ago 4
Alagna is dead as a singer
wiswert 3 years ago
la cosa peggiore è assolutamente la regia di Zeffirelli.
campletamente assene!
e lo pagano miliardi!
udilio 3 years ago
cos'ha di male la regia?non sarà l'aida del secolo ma sempre meglio di quegli pseudo registi votati al minimalismo che fanno una scenografia con mezzo faraone su sfondo nero!
permea 2 years ago
non c'è nessuna regia. come ormai succede da molti anni. in molti grandi teatri si pensa alla scenografia che anche quando è minimalista costa milioni. (grande mistero) e non si fa altro cheLAlSCIAR FARE AI POVERI CANTANTI. CREDO CHE OGGI ALAGNA POTREBBE CANTARE BENISSIMO RADAMES, SE SI PENSASSE AD UNO SPETTACOLO DOVE I PERSONAGGI SIANO GIOVANI, DOVE LE PASSIONI SIANO ACERBE. INVECE VIVIAMO SEMPRE CON LO SPETTRO DEI CANTANTI DEL PASSATO CHE A ME PIACIONO MOLTISSIMO.
udilio 2 years ago
p.s. mi ero dimenticato: dai un'occhiata a quell'orrendo don carlo che ha inaugurato la scala quest'anno..una cosa orrenda, cento volte meglio l'edizione di zefirelli del '92 (che pure non era un capolavoro..)
per quanto riguarda alagna ma questo il legato sa cos'è?mi sa che non gliel'hanno insegnato..!
permea 2 years ago
By the way, I am of Sicilian heritage too. Provincial is not a bad word. However do not try to say that Palermo is at the same level of La Scala. I have been polite in my answers to your posts, because I do not think it should be otherwise. If you think that someone who does not share 100% your opinions deserves the rude remarks of your latest post then I am not interested in talking about music nor anything else with you.
vin61158 3 years ago
Un cantante che meritava il meglio,aveva tutto:voce,facilita.colore e fisico per fare una garnde carriera.Invece la sua arroganza e ignoranza lo hanno portato a questo triste spettacolo.
Come se non bastasse e andato a soposarsi con una peggio ancora di lui,dio li fa e poi l'accopia......
bellodelalirica 3 years ago
He was sick that day, that does not have anything to do with his arrogance and ignorance. Human voice is a very delicate musical instrument. It was very rude from behalf the audience to boo him. Even the best singers can have a bad day. I think his reaction was quite human, probably not very mature, but very human indeed. As an italian yourself you should understand what hot blood means.
vin61158 3 years ago
I am sorry but that is a poor excuse,i have heard him from the very beggining of his career and he is a shadow of what he was.This is not his repertoire,the voice is hard and many times out of tune.Previously his Trovatore at Palermo was even worst.I do not agree with booing as I consider that an ill-mannered way tipically Italian,the worst objection is to stay silent as the palermo public did when he sang the big aria in the second act.
He is a a provincial guy that never got out of the gheto.
bellodelalirica 3 years ago 2
Poor excuse to be sick??? Hmmmm what is it a good excuse for you then???
vin61158 3 years ago
You don't understand:he was not sick,and even if he was then it would be quite irresponsible to sing at La Scala on opening night not "feeling well".
The truth is that a great career has been thrown away just because he has no idea of his real repertoire and is married to a woman that sees only money and fame as her ultimate goal,nothing else no artistry nothing.
bellodelalirica 3 years ago 2
Do not get me wrong, I never liked him. I I find painful his L´Elisit d´amore. His E lucevan le stelle is also painful, but I believe him when he talks about his illness. Nobody will make up such an excuse to justify a tantrum. He is indeed a provincial guy, but so what? Caruso was a provincial guy too. Even Verdi was a provincial guy. By the way Palermo is more provincial than Milano and as you said sicilians behaved much better than Lombardi.
vin61158 3 years ago
Then at least you agree with me in one point:the repertoire that he sings now is totally wrong for him.Caruso was born very poor but he elevated his origins when became a great tenor,the problem with Alagna is the remained the same,provintial and uncultured.Verdi's family were wealthy and it is a urban legend that he was from humble origins,just an stupidity.
Palermo more provintial than Milan?You have no idea of the cultural heritage of Sicily and its people.Talk about music please.
bellodelalirica 3 years ago
take care with these statements. such a rumour (wasting his voice etc.) can really kill his career. imho this time he was really tired, or got cold. it is not so bad, so please don't bury him alive.
such rumours killed mario lanza much before his real decline, this is just malice.
yeah, and i have to state that i am not a fan of him, but i can't bear injustice.
babajaga39 3 years ago 3
Rumours don't kill a career because with the next performance a singer can easily prove all rumours wrong - if the rumours ARE wrong.
MaikHaeber 3 years ago
MaikHaeber, are you really so naive to believe what you wrote? People believe any rumour even it is proved not to be true just to have some sensation. They will believe any rumour about you too, and you can be a dead man, or a star in a minute. You cannot underestimate enough people's stupidity: so this can really kill anyone'