Earlier this week at the Wal Mart in Logan, West Virginia, they was a man named Jesus "Jesse" Canul who had cashed his paycheck was followed out to his car and robbed. The man threatened to kill him if he didn't give him his wallet. So he gave it to him and the robber took 3 steps to get away andJesse pulled out the pistol on his side and shot him in the back and he died. Now Jesse is being charged with murder. Please thumps up this so somebody can do something about it and help jesse be free
@fenderbender256 .. hmm.. if a store is robbed & the clerk/security guard shoots the bandit on the way out, it's justified,.. even the LEO's are justified in shooting & killing 'an unarmed suspect when he fled the scene/resisted arrest/disobeyed their orders'...
umm.. now i wasn't there in his shoes,.. but why didn't he draw & order him to stop & drop what he'd taken?
he is allowed to make a citzens arrest..
then again, if he'd been wearin a badge, there'd be no question about it,..
@externalpower Are you kidding? How indoctrinated are you? Normal people just don't go shooting random people, how did you get to that conclusion? Almost everyone is armed legally where I live and we NEVER have anyone shooting random people unless you go to the hood. If more law abiding people would arm themselves criminals would think twice before doing anything. The shooter at Norway could have been stopped A LOT sooner if people would have armed themselves! More lives could have been saved.
@orangeblood307 Oh so only people in the hood shoot each other? Just another racist redneck gun nut. Im sure the people where you live are perfect gun owners but there is nothing in the world that can stop a person that goes crazy for one reason or another and takes their law abiding gun and shoots a regular person. At the center of every crime is a gun.
@externalpower No, at the center of every crime is a criminal. And yes, in my city and in every other city almost every shooting occurs in low-income areas, that's a fact!. You idiots want to outlaw everything because of what a crazy person MIGHT do with it. Normal people don't just go around shooting people. And what idiot wants to wait around for the police to show up when your house is being robbed? You're the dumbass who would risk your families lives before owning a gun for protection.
@externalpower (cont.) And you say at the center of every crime is a gun.... Then why does Switzerland have THE LOWEST crime rate in the world and they require every male citizen over 18 to own a firearm?? Lol, I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with your stupidity. Fucking clueless.
@externalpower You are a nut. If you cant control your temper, then you should be behind bars. Just because you have anger issues, does not mean that the rest of us do. Orangeblood said it perfectly. At the center of each crime is a criminal. To blame an object for misuse is just plane stupid.
@externalpower It took you a month, and this is what you came up with? Really? After a month? So, when do you ban cars, doctors, knives, matches, and pens? You are and always will be a loud-mouth pussy.
Oh, by the way, law abiding gun owners don't shoot people. Thats what criminals do. It would be a lot easier if I didn't have to explain every detail to you.
When gun control laws in Germany were effective during WW2, millions of jews lost their lives with no real means of a defense from the horrors being done.
Open your eyes people, history is all the proof you need to see the cruel intentions of the corrupt.
WITHOUT FIREARMS, HOW WILL YOU PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FREEDOMS?
He says his stance on gun rights changed, but how? Anyone can say "I've changed" over a bad past and not even define how. Typical of professional politics.
I don't trust someone who had to change their mind of gun control. This guy is a slimy bastard neocon republican. This guy is the same guy in favor of the AWB, anyone who wants this guy to win a election, well, they should be locked in the boxes from Indiana Jones.
Get this slimy neocon out of here, Ron Paul neutered him.
@FromyColdeadHands I like Ron Paul and I like Rudy. I like Rudy because he has shown good leadership and cleaned up NYC. I like Ron Paul because we share some of the same libertarian views. To the point: A tragic or major event would not change your stance on something ? That is what I got from this, he changed his stance and saw the importance of it.
FIrst off he did not clean up NYC, that place is still ravaged by its drug laws and nazi gun laws. To the point of a tragic event, ok, lets get this straight, The Constitution is meant to protect us in dire times, like in New Orleans, I was already for those people having weapons, a tragic event that caused the disarment of those people is bad. Radical changes to keep us "safe" are always bad, look at the Patriot Act and Torture.
Ron Paul already had it right, no need for change.
@FromyColdeadHands Compare NYC before he was mayor. He did clean it up... maybe not to the standards you want it to be. I think you misunderstood me. I disagree with Rudy's position on gun rights but now he changed his stance on them and it seems he is for more gun rights. It took a tragic event for him to see his stance needed to change. I agree with Ron Paul on gun rights. I am not sure if I am a Conservative or a Libertarain. I don't fit perfect in either view but share some of both views.
@AMERSIDD, I agreed. If 911th was a real "terrorist attack" then the government should be telling their citizens that "We want every US citizens in this country to go out and buy guns and lots of ammo because 911th has proven to America that we are still extremely vulnerable to future terrorist attacks" but instead they wish to take away our gun rights for our "own safety" goes to show that 911 was an inside job. If anyone disagrees with me, then please go drink more fluoride water watch more TV
Less people die from gunshots in the U.S then from doctor screw ups. Guns dont kill people its people who do. Our people, our police and our army is armed, at any time any one of those three could turn corrupt, theres a balance of power
Most gun owners dont kill folks. A gun doesnt kill anyone the one who weilds around that power wrongly does. With the good is seeded the bad, there are checks and balances. Our citizens include millitary men and police men
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why in gods name do's so many americans demand to have guns?.the more guns there are the easier it is for criminals to get there hands on them and for kids to blow there heads off with! and this argument of the right to defend yourself? from what? whos going to invade mainland america?? the cylons? the more guns there are the more unsafe america becomes.
You've answered your own question in your second sentence. We've already been invaded! As far as kids go, two points: if you teach your kids how to use and respect weapons, you counter that 'forbidden fruit' fascination that gets them in trouble in the first place. Secondly, if you leave weapons accessible to kids that shouldn't have access to them, then you are liable.
We don't need more gun control, we need better criminal control.
Look any statistics -- more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens decrease crime. Less guns increase crime.
I'll say that again: More guns = Less crime. It has been proven.
Moreover millions (yes millions) of Americans have stopped a crime with a gun without ever firing a shot, myself included. One night someone broke into my house, and when he heard the sound of a pump-action shotgun, he ran. Would you rather I had been disarmed?
Good point. The statistics from the FBI and CDC speak for armed, law abiding citizens lowering the crime rate much more effectively than any gun control measure. Why? Gun control only effects those who obey laws. It is also proven that the mere presence of a gun in a citizen's hands, in most cases, will result in the end of a crime. Criminals do not want to be shot and we do not want to shoot them. We want them to assess the risk as too high and deter further crime.
@HeelToeSTi Well someone needs to go shoot some of those criminals in washington who are essentially breaking the law of the land (the constitution) by passing these "gun control" laws!
1. From a government intent on opressing its people. An unarmed populace is much easier to control.
2. From criminals intent on harming you or your family
3. A foreign power again will find it much harder to subdue an armed population. Yes, its unlikely in our foreseeable future the US will be invaded but then again its not impossible.
Im always reminded of Cambodia and how Pol pots governments got the poeples guns and then set about murdering 2 million.
@beefycheesecake Why do you think Japan didn't invade America on land? They knew that American citizens were armed and they decided not to because they would have to fight civilians and our military. You truly have no common sense. As long as governments have guns, criminals will. Where do you think weapons on the black market come from? Not from law abiding citizens but from corrupt government agencies all over the world. Grow some brains, liberal moron.
Rudy: "I'll say anything to get your vote"! This guys the biggest PUD, alongside BLOOMBURG I have ever seen! Walking around surrounded by "ARMED" secret service, while traveling from state to state making speeches about, "the less guns on the street and in peoples homes, the safer society as a nation will be". OH REALLY? Let me get this straight, YOUR going to tell ME, that it isn't a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect myself from harm? HAHAHA! Keep talking! When your lips move, I'll know your lying!
911 gun control. 911 gun control. 911 gun control. 911 gun control. I.... don't....see the connection? Whether you're pro or anti gun control what the frak does that debate have to do with 911. I didn't think it was possible but Giuliani has struck a new low. Fraking fireman killing son of a bitch!
Rudy says 9/11 doesn't not change the second Amendment ,but it emphaaises the need for it a bit more. I am paraphrasing. However, that is the jist of it.
One question I have for everyone who may read this. If the Democrats take stronger control of Congress and take the Whitehouse, they are coming for our guns, no matter what the Surpreme Court says in March. How will you react? Will you stand and fight for the SEcond Amendment?
No-one stood and fought for for it when they confiscated firearms after Katrina. I'm afraid that only a few will do anything about it. Americans for the most part do whatever they are told. Unfortunately I think they will do the same when they come for everyones firearms. The few that do stand will be criminalized and deemed as terrorist. Oh how people that founded this country would be disheartened at what we've become. Was it all for nothing in the end? I hope not, Ive lost faith in people.
watch the videos on youtube on the libertytreeradio site to find out all kinds of cooooool stuff.Victory! vote with your wallet and buy more ammo asap. MGK/GDW!
Everything he talks about is somehow related back to 9/11. I tuned him out long ago. Why listen to him? What he says is not going to change. It's going to continue to be "September 11."
9/11 seems to be his excuse for everything. It "changed his mind" on immigration, gun control, legal rights, freedom ... is there anything else that it changed your mind on, Rudy, you pathetic snake? Slither back home to New York and stay there, America doesnt like you.
hmm.. still very wishy washy. He never comes out and says exactly what he changed his mind on. Should americans now be allowed to have a 2nd Ammendment Right or not then? he isn't clear and speaks in a very Clintoneque way of saying something and never really saying anything at all. No wonder I am supporting Ron Paul :) For once a politician that has a track record of sticking to his view instead of waffling.
From what I seen there, he just said it changed his stance. Does that mean citizens should be able all pack heat, so that in cities the law abidding citizens don't have to worry about getting robbed after everyone knows everyone has a gun or what? Would be nice if politicans actually decided to look at statistics and what gun control does.
I would have liked to understand his stance on it. In Iraq citizens are permited to have fully automatics for home defense and we have to make them from scratch or fill out a ton of paperwork. The decisions of the next president could very well decide whether there is a civil war or not.
Bullshit. I don't trust Guliani half as far as you could throw him. He was one of the first people to jump on the band wagon with Clinton with that ban when it was first put into place, and now all of a sudden he's essentially 'oh I'm not like that anymore.' What a weasel.
It's called changing your opinion. Shouldn't we want our leaders to be able to look at things objectivly and make open minded desisions based on factual evidence? Shouldn't they alter thier perspective as new evidence comes into existance? Why is a politition changing his mind because of a disaster a bad thing.
Yes, and he changes his opinion every time he speaks to a different crowd. He once said we needed a national law to keep guns out of NYC. And he expected the Federal government to inact such laws.
As primary time gets closer he is talking more like a "conservative gun grabber". Not ban all your guns at once, just hand guns, then semi autos, and so on.
The fact remains that those who we fear most with guns in their hands, still have guns in their hands, ie criminals & the police. Gun control is strictly to disarm the people. So they can't defend themselves against their own govt.
The point is: that if we are attacked we can fight back if we have guns. How the hell can a country invade our cities if every other person is in a window firing at them. And terrorists. If a terrorist has a bomb and someone with a gun sees he's about to arm it. He's going to put a bullet right between the guys eyes.
what if u think a guy is a terrorist and u shoot him but the bullet keeps going and hits the captain in the face... then the plane goes down and hits a kindergarden... ever thought about that?
dude... i was making a joke... ofc thats unlikly but who is 2 say whether some guy with a concealed weapons permit decides 2 go awol on the plane... then another gun with the same permit should stop him? gunbattles on airplanes... bad idea if u ask me:)
Then the Co-pilot takes over, or one of the stewards engages the auto pilot. And what the hell is the captain doing looking backwards anyway? or will the bullet turn to hit him in the face?
You idiots: assuming those planes were ever hijacked at all, they were hijacked with a bloody plastic knife. Ha. If douchebags with guns are allowed on a plane, I'll take the boat.
"Believe half of what you see, none of what you hear."
From the time you dial 9.1.1 to the time sufficent numbers of "officials" are on the scene, somebody's got to contain the situation. Wake-up people YOU are the real first responders. Here in Chicago a call to the police isn't a call for help, it's a call telling them where to find your body, thanks to Daley and his draconian gun control policies.
He said what he always says: 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11. What that asshole didnt tell you is how much money he makes as a direct result of 9/11. Looks like that tragedy was good for business. If you vote for him please kill yourself :)
What a politician! Rudi Guiliani represents why people are turned off by politics. Maybe he should just answer "9/11" to every question and leave it at that.
Maybe he should have thought about the 2nd amendment back when he was mayor and all the smart people were warning about terrorism and how our bad foreign policy was planting the seeds for it. Rudy puts the Ghoul in Giuliani.
He said, "thinking about what he was thinking because we're entitled to his thinking." In short, he said, "I think therefore I'm your President in 2008.". Think about it and let it stew in your mind for awhile. Heh heh. (Stare into my Hyno-Toad!)
Any Republican but Ghouliani. He might have been the best Repub for mayor of NYC, but he can't be the best one for president of the US or republicans are in big trouble.
Vote Ron Paul for President. Ron Paul will fight for all of our Constitutional rights. Google Ron Paul, register Republican, vote in Primary. Ron Paul cured my apathy... Rudy-911 is a bitch!
lol.... 9/11 had absolutely nothing to do with guns!!!! Not a single shot was fired. Not on a plane. Not on the ground. If anything he should have been at the National Plane Association since that what the only weapon used.
Maybe soon he will explain what he means aboot(canadian for about) guns and how it comes into the picture. Ask any gunsmith or many gun owners how heat affects steel.
When it comes to guns whoever has the element of surprise will always get the first shot off. And if everyone had guns and so did they there would be a good western style shoot out at 15000 feet. Maybe a law officer with a gun on a plane is reasonable but everyone with a gun is not. Everyone should have to check their guns with their luggage as always and just have security on the plane.
LOL, September 11th changed Rudy's mind on gun control? What does he think passengers should have been able to do, carry guns on the plane in order to prevent hijackers? Rudy is clearly the 9/11 pimp in this election.
I was at a gun show and the Republican booth was pumping Rudy! Thankfully, we had a Ron Paul booth at the other end of the show with support from various groups like OFF and the GOA.
Wake up guys! If anyone other than Ron Paul gets elected, you can kiss your guns goodbye! Thompson? Guliani? Romney? All vitriolic anti-gunners! Just as bad as Obama and Hillary.
THIS GUY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT BY THE NRA AS HE STOOD THERE LYING HIS MURDERER ASS OFF! NRA members need to investigate 911. Start with WTC-7, which clearly shows an inplosion.
GHOULiani is a lib in disguise, I hope no NRA members support him for president, remember he's the one who brought a lawsuit against gun makers and said they are "in the business of making money off killing people". I'd say Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser extent John McCain are the best pro-2nd amendment candidates.
I'd say Giuliani has one of the prerequisites for being president down: He's adept at lying to large groups of people without smiling too much. Our current guy doesn't seem to have that part down entirely.
Giuliani is a liar. You want your guns taken away from you, just put him in the White House. You want to keep your guns, put Ron Paul in the White House. RON PAUL for PRESIDENT!
Lets face it - without 9/11 Rudy would be just another faceless lobbyist unkown to all outside of New York. It's hard not to believe that of all people exploiting that day, Rudy has made out like a bandit. Eventually someone is going to call him on this I expect, and he would do himself a favour at this point by never mentioning 911 again.
worries thee oh earth and sea, for the devil sends the beast with wroth, for he knows the time is short, let he who hath understanding, reckon the number of the beast, for it is of human number, it is number 9-11 and his name is rudy guilliani
I called Giuliani's campaign office and they implied that once he was nominated I would see the real Rudy. Needless to say that scared the hell out of me:)
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Rudy is the most honest, bestest candidate there is for President among the Republicans and Democrats, EVER. Hi cares about the people and all of humanity, etc. etc. etc...
For one, having a President so focused on punishing guilty criminals is just scary. This man is no diplomat. I am pro-gun (and anti-NRA)- All Rudy's doing here is preaching to the flock.
Hey guys, do you remember September 11th? Well, I do. September 11th happened on September 11th, but it wasn't this past September 11th, but that should remind you of the first September 11th of which you should be reminded. Apparently I live in a September 11th Groundhog's Day time trap and cannot converse on any topic without letting everyone know about September 11th.
I wonder why no one has outlawed box cutters?
Coffeeandasmoke 4 months ago
Earlier this week at the Wal Mart in Logan, West Virginia, they was a man named Jesus "Jesse" Canul who had cashed his paycheck was followed out to his car and robbed. The man threatened to kill him if he didn't give him his wallet. So he gave it to him and the robber took 3 steps to get away andJesse pulled out the pistol on his side and shot him in the back and he died. Now Jesse is being charged with murder. Please thumps up this so somebody can do something about it and help jesse be free
fenderbender256 5 months ago
@fenderbender256 .. hmm.. if a store is robbed & the clerk/security guard shoots the bandit on the way out, it's justified,.. even the LEO's are justified in shooting & killing 'an unarmed suspect when he fled the scene/resisted arrest/disobeyed their orders'...
umm.. now i wasn't there in his shoes,.. but why didn't he draw & order him to stop & drop what he'd taken?
he is allowed to make a citzens arrest..
then again, if he'd been wearin a badge, there'd be no question about it,..
Wrongway1965 3 months ago
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he's an asshole you really need to know the truth about him and 911
2020starman 6 months ago
we need guns to fight against evil governments
hyylo 6 months ago
only pussies need guns. and that is what it willl always be.
externalpower 8 months ago
@externalpower Like the Colonies in 1776? They were all big pussies, picking on the weak, downtrodden British crown.
silvermediastudio 8 months ago
@silvermediastudio what? that has nothing to do with all the gun murders today. why do you want people to die from gunshots.
externalpower 8 months ago
@externalpower Go away troll.
silvermediastudio 8 months ago
@silvermediastudio you dont like the truth.
externalpower 8 months ago
@externalpower LOL, you sound like a real pussy. If you can't see a reason why we need firearms then you are a true uneducated moron.
orangeblood307 6 months ago
@orangeblood307 so going around shooting people for no reason is ok?
externalpower 6 months ago
@externalpower Are you kidding? How indoctrinated are you? Normal people just don't go shooting random people, how did you get to that conclusion? Almost everyone is armed legally where I live and we NEVER have anyone shooting random people unless you go to the hood. If more law abiding people would arm themselves criminals would think twice before doing anything. The shooter at Norway could have been stopped A LOT sooner if people would have armed themselves! More lives could have been saved.
orangeblood307 6 months ago
@orangeblood307 Oh so only people in the hood shoot each other? Just another racist redneck gun nut. Im sure the people where you live are perfect gun owners but there is nothing in the world that can stop a person that goes crazy for one reason or another and takes their law abiding gun and shoots a regular person. At the center of every crime is a gun.
externalpower 5 months ago
@externalpower No, at the center of every crime is a criminal. And yes, in my city and in every other city almost every shooting occurs in low-income areas, that's a fact!. You idiots want to outlaw everything because of what a crazy person MIGHT do with it. Normal people don't just go around shooting people. And what idiot wants to wait around for the police to show up when your house is being robbed? You're the dumbass who would risk your families lives before owning a gun for protection.
orangeblood307 5 months ago 2
@externalpower (cont.) And you say at the center of every crime is a gun.... Then why does Switzerland have THE LOWEST crime rate in the world and they require every male citizen over 18 to own a firearm?? Lol, I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with your stupidity. Fucking clueless.
orangeblood307 5 months ago
@externalpower You are a nut. If you cant control your temper, then you should be behind bars. Just because you have anger issues, does not mean that the rest of us do. Orangeblood said it perfectly. At the center of each crime is a criminal. To blame an object for misuse is just plane stupid.
rb2112002 4 months ago
@rb2112002 Im blaming the person with the gun. The gun nut. Take away the gun and all you have is just a plain old nut.
externalpower 4 months ago
@externalpower It took you a month, and this is what you came up with? Really? After a month? So, when do you ban cars, doctors, knives, matches, and pens? You are and always will be a loud-mouth pussy.
Oh, by the way, law abiding gun owners don't shoot people. Thats what criminals do. It would be a lot easier if I didn't have to explain every detail to you.
rb2112002 4 months ago
@externalpower ... Troll..
Wrongway1965 3 months ago
@Wrongway1965 Truth. We need major restrictions on guns. So the gun nuts like you dont go around killing people.
externalpower 3 months ago
@externalpower .. T O T A L T R O L L !!!!
(or you can substitute the word 'T O O L' if you have an opinion about people who have no life..)
They're interchangable to me..
Wrongway1965 3 months ago
@Wrongway1965 Well whatever. Im just trying to educate you.
externalpower 3 months ago
When gun control laws in Germany were effective during WW2, millions of jews lost their lives with no real means of a defense from the horrors being done.
Open your eyes people, history is all the proof you need to see the cruel intentions of the corrupt.
WITHOUT FIREARMS, HOW WILL YOU PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FREEDOMS?
xRockstar1052x 1 year ago
wow he only used 9/11 twice in 0:53 ....no wonder he lost ...Rudy Rudy Rudy didnt even read the 9/11 commission report ..U make me sick
athar077 1 year ago
He says his stance on gun rights changed, but how? Anyone can say "I've changed" over a bad past and not even define how. Typical of professional politics.
patsfanczar 1 year ago
Can we say Rudaracky Giulobamiani? YES WE CAN!
Wlmitch1 1 year ago
@Wlmitch1 Actually that is quite a doozy to say lol.
mattxr2i 1 year ago
I don't trust someone who had to change their mind of gun control. This guy is a slimy bastard neocon republican. This guy is the same guy in favor of the AWB, anyone who wants this guy to win a election, well, they should be locked in the boxes from Indiana Jones.
Get this slimy neocon out of here, Ron Paul neutered him.
GOA > NRA
FromyColdeadHands 1 year ago
@FromyColdeadHands I like Ron Paul and I like Rudy. I like Rudy because he has shown good leadership and cleaned up NYC. I like Ron Paul because we share some of the same libertarian views. To the point: A tragic or major event would not change your stance on something ? That is what I got from this, he changed his stance and saw the importance of it.
tkorenstra 1 year ago
@tkorenstra
FIrst off he did not clean up NYC, that place is still ravaged by its drug laws and nazi gun laws. To the point of a tragic event, ok, lets get this straight, The Constitution is meant to protect us in dire times, like in New Orleans, I was already for those people having weapons, a tragic event that caused the disarment of those people is bad. Radical changes to keep us "safe" are always bad, look at the Patriot Act and Torture.
Ron Paul already had it right, no need for change.
FromyColdeadHands 1 year ago
@FromyColdeadHands Compare NYC before he was mayor. He did clean it up... maybe not to the standards you want it to be. I think you misunderstood me. I disagree with Rudy's position on gun rights but now he changed his stance on them and it seems he is for more gun rights. It took a tragic event for him to see his stance needed to change. I agree with Ron Paul on gun rights. I am not sure if I am a Conservative or a Libertarain. I don't fit perfect in either view but share some of both views.
tkorenstra 1 year ago
i thought he would make a good president, hes just to obama
yandirtty21 2 years ago
What a moron..
navig8r77 2 years ago
"as we go forward" < Political Buzzword
tinfoilrepair 2 years ago 4
Rudy is a lieing motherfucker of a politician!!! That's what I know and he paid the price in the primaries! That lame ass politico bitch!!!
ni4ni07 2 years ago 7
More guns, less crime.
cwp91206 2 years ago
NRA & GOA are the shiznit.
kagibb 2 years ago 4
He did not say anything. He did the politician thing to suck up to the NRA and not commiting to anything.
twobanger 3 years ago 2
this motherfucker was behind 9/11
research freemasons and wake the fuke up before your bum raped
AMERSIDD 3 years ago
@AMERSIDD, I agreed. If 911th was a real "terrorist attack" then the government should be telling their citizens that "We want every US citizens in this country to go out and buy guns and lots of ammo because 911th has proven to America that we are still extremely vulnerable to future terrorist attacks" but instead they wish to take away our gun rights for our "own safety" goes to show that 911 was an inside job. If anyone disagrees with me, then please go drink more fluoride water watch more TV
sjvietboy408 1 year ago
Less people die from gunshots in the U.S then from doctor screw ups. Guns dont kill people its people who do. Our people, our police and our army is armed, at any time any one of those three could turn corrupt, theres a balance of power
Most gun owners dont kill folks. A gun doesnt kill anyone the one who weilds around that power wrongly does. With the good is seeded the bad, there are checks and balances. Our citizens include millitary men and police men
Plane control should be the issue
KARStarla 3 years ago 7
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why in gods name do's so many americans demand to have guns?.the more guns there are the easier it is for criminals to get there hands on them and for kids to blow there heads off with! and this argument of the right to defend yourself? from what? whos going to invade mainland america?? the cylons? the more guns there are the more unsafe america becomes.
beefycheesecake 3 years ago
fuck you anti pussy
DorkFishes 3 years ago
good argument dorkfish,you prove my point exactly.
beefycheesecake 3 years ago
ok, i only have one thing to say....your fucking name is beefy chesse cake...nuff said on my part
DorkFishes 3 years ago 3
You've answered your own question in your second sentence. We've already been invaded! As far as kids go, two points: if you teach your kids how to use and respect weapons, you counter that 'forbidden fruit' fascination that gets them in trouble in the first place. Secondly, if you leave weapons accessible to kids that shouldn't have access to them, then you are liable.
We don't need more gun control, we need better criminal control.
Pleased to do business with you.
awizardalso 3 years ago 5
Look any statistics -- more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens decrease crime. Less guns increase crime.
I'll say that again: More guns = Less crime. It has been proven.
Moreover millions (yes millions) of Americans have stopped a crime with a gun without ever firing a shot, myself included. One night someone broke into my house, and when he heard the sound of a pump-action shotgun, he ran. Would you rather I had been disarmed?
jmangle 3 years ago 5
Good point. The statistics from the FBI and CDC speak for armed, law abiding citizens lowering the crime rate much more effectively than any gun control measure. Why? Gun control only effects those who obey laws. It is also proven that the mere presence of a gun in a citizen's hands, in most cases, will result in the end of a crime. Criminals do not want to be shot and we do not want to shoot them. We want them to assess the risk as too high and deter further crime.
HeelToeSTi 3 years ago 4
@HeelToeSTi Well someone needs to go shoot some of those criminals in washington who are essentially breaking the law of the land (the constitution) by passing these "gun control" laws!
mattxr2i 1 year ago 5
The right to defend your self means
1. From a government intent on opressing its people. An unarmed populace is much easier to control.
2. From criminals intent on harming you or your family
3. A foreign power again will find it much harder to subdue an armed population. Yes, its unlikely in our foreseeable future the US will be invaded but then again its not impossible.
Im always reminded of Cambodia and how Pol pots governments got the poeples guns and then set about murdering 2 million.
VVendettaz 3 years ago 5
Thank you for posting! I am Cambodian and I do remember that diabolical Pol Pot. Very few people study history!!!
120grace 3 years ago 3
@beefycheesecake Why do you think Japan didn't invade America on land? They knew that American citizens were armed and they decided not to because they would have to fight civilians and our military. You truly have no common sense. As long as governments have guns, criminals will. Where do you think weapons on the black market come from? Not from law abiding citizens but from corrupt government agencies all over the world. Grow some brains, liberal moron.
orangeblood307 6 months ago
Rudy: "I'll say anything to get your vote"! This guys the biggest PUD, alongside BLOOMBURG I have ever seen! Walking around surrounded by "ARMED" secret service, while traveling from state to state making speeches about, "the less guns on the street and in peoples homes, the safer society as a nation will be". OH REALLY? Let me get this straight, YOUR going to tell ME, that it isn't a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to protect myself from harm? HAHAHA! Keep talking! When your lips move, I'll know your lying!
LoganUpABongHit 3 years ago 3
911 gun control. 911 gun control. 911 gun control. 911 gun control. I.... don't....see the connection? Whether you're pro or anti gun control what the frak does that debate have to do with 911. I didn't think it was possible but Giuliani has struck a new low. Fraking fireman killing son of a bitch!
Chiggs58th 3 years ago 4
When you feel it is time to bury your guns it is actually time to dig them up and use them.
greentractors 3 years ago
Rudy says 9/11 doesn't not change the second Amendment ,but it emphaaises the need for it a bit more. I am paraphrasing. However, that is the jist of it.
One question I have for everyone who may read this. If the Democrats take stronger control of Congress and take the Whitehouse, they are coming for our guns, no matter what the Surpreme Court says in March. How will you react? Will you stand and fight for the SEcond Amendment?
thomaspowell1011 4 years ago
I will not only stand -- I will die for the right
secondamt 4 years ago
In the words of "Charleton Heston": "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS"!
LoganUpABongHit 3 years ago 3
No-one stood and fought for for it when they confiscated firearms after Katrina. I'm afraid that only a few will do anything about it. Americans for the most part do whatever they are told. Unfortunately I think they will do the same when they come for everyones firearms. The few that do stand will be criminalized and deemed as terrorist. Oh how people that founded this country would be disheartened at what we've become. Was it all for nothing in the end? I hope not, Ive lost faith in people.
MadScience 3 years ago
watch the videos on youtube on the libertytreeradio site to find out all kinds of cooooool stuff.Victory! vote with your wallet and buy more ammo asap. MGK/GDW!
Libertytreeradio 4 years ago
Hes using 9/11 to win him an election. GUNS ARE TO PROTECT US FROM HUMAN NATURES LUST FOR POWER I.E. THE GOVERNMENT,NOT FOR DUCK HUNTING.
The777truth 4 years ago 27
@The777truth well its too bad they kill all the humans while they are protecting them from natures lust.
externalpower 1 year ago
Ummmm, I don't remember the terrorist using guns on 9/11.
DrMrGenusBiscut 4 years ago
No, but had the pilots or flight crew been armed...
machalot 4 years ago 25
Everything he talks about is somehow related back to 9/11. I tuned him out long ago. Why listen to him? What he says is not going to change. It's going to continue to be "September 11."
RedShirtArmy 4 years ago
9/11 seems to be his excuse for everything. It "changed his mind" on immigration, gun control, legal rights, freedom ... is there anything else that it changed your mind on, Rudy, you pathetic snake? Slither back home to New York and stay there, America doesnt like you.
subcin 4 years ago 3
hmm.. still very wishy washy. He never comes out and says exactly what he changed his mind on. Should americans now be allowed to have a 2nd Ammendment Right or not then? he isn't clear and speaks in a very Clintoneque way of saying something and never really saying anything at all. No wonder I am supporting Ron Paul :) For once a politician that has a track record of sticking to his view instead of waffling.
folkandfaith 4 years ago
From what I seen there, he just said it changed his stance. Does that mean citizens should be able all pack heat, so that in cities the law abidding citizens don't have to worry about getting robbed after everyone knows everyone has a gun or what? Would be nice if politicans actually decided to look at statistics and what gun control does.
edicol 4 years ago
I would have liked to understand his stance on it. In Iraq citizens are permited to have fully automatics for home defense and we have to make them from scratch or fill out a ton of paperwork. The decisions of the next president could very well decide whether there is a civil war or not.
edicol 4 years ago
Changed his mind on gun control for votes, not for what he believes in! loser
shotfirst1 4 years ago
Bullshit. I don't trust Guliani half as far as you could throw him. He was one of the first people to jump on the band wagon with Clinton with that ban when it was first put into place, and now all of a sudden he's essentially 'oh I'm not like that anymore.' What a weasel.
smithandwessonm76 4 years ago
It's called changing your opinion. Shouldn't we want our leaders to be able to look at things objectivly and make open minded desisions based on factual evidence? Shouldn't they alter thier perspective as new evidence comes into existance? Why is a politition changing his mind because of a disaster a bad thing.
ckilr01 4 years ago
ckilr01
"It's called changing your opinion."
Yes, and he changes his opinion every time he speaks to a different crowd. He once said we needed a national law to keep guns out of NYC. And he expected the Federal government to inact such laws.
As primary time gets closer he is talking more like a "conservative gun grabber". Not ban all your guns at once, just hand guns, then semi autos, and so on.
How nice of him, don't you think?
greentractors 4 years ago
giuliani is a catholic who answers to the pope, not americans. I don't trust him.
Bigjuicybuck 4 years ago
The fact remains that those who we fear most with guns in their hands, still have guns in their hands, ie criminals & the police. Gun control is strictly to disarm the people. So they can't defend themselves against their own govt.
iHIMself 4 years ago
Rudy - - you looked solid in the clean-up of 9/11 - - - but with the running for President you look anything but firm on any issue . . .
mtg60 4 years ago
This IS still America. We are NOT *quite* communist...yet.
EntryMan 4 years ago
or facist thats always and option
wize11 4 years ago
He never really said anything. BTW no guns were even used on 9/11,maybe we should outlaw the box knife,hammers,ropes,etc.wake up.
bloodsurf69 4 years ago
The point is: that if we are attacked we can fight back if we have guns. How the hell can a country invade our cities if every other person is in a window firing at them. And terrorists. If a terrorist has a bomb and someone with a gun sees he's about to arm it. He's going to put a bullet right between the guys eyes.
edicol 4 years ago
Yah, a hammer could kill somebody, so can chewing a hamburger.WTF
Hide your guns & ammo now!
Hide your hammer tommarrow, then quick eat what you can before they take that right away!
shotfirst1 4 years ago
What a joke. That guy can't even get through a speech without saying anything about New Yourk City.
tractordriver88 4 years ago
He is just joking
midiman16 4 years ago
moi je dit ke lé states tout cour sont juste sotte
qc1st 4 years ago
If they would let those of us with conceal carry permits carry on board, it would be very unlikely that our planes would be hijacked.
In states with concealed carry permits, crime has gone down. This is a Sheriff's Department statistic.
alienpath 4 years ago 3
what if u think a guy is a terrorist and u shoot him but the bullet keeps going and hits the captain in the face... then the plane goes down and hits a kindergarden... ever thought about that?
9ightech666 4 years ago
hey.. captains have been inside reinforced doors since 9/11... unlikely that would happen. Theres several people in there too...
Redznc 4 years ago
dude... i was making a joke... ofc thats unlikly but who is 2 say whether some guy with a concealed weapons permit decides 2 go awol on the plane... then another gun with the same permit should stop him? gunbattles on airplanes... bad idea if u ask me:)
9ightech666 4 years ago
Then the Co-pilot takes over, or one of the stewards engages the auto pilot. And what the hell is the captain doing looking backwards anyway? or will the bullet turn to hit him in the face?
FrostWolf67 4 years ago
You idiots: assuming those planes were ever hijacked at all, they were hijacked with a bloody plastic knife. Ha. If douchebags with guns are allowed on a plane, I'll take the boat.
"Believe half of what you see, none of what you hear."
mickmorrell 4 years ago
Go ahead, take a boat to Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Nevada, Illinois, or any other interior state. :)
alienpath 4 years ago
yeah i thought about it, and thats why theres HOLLOW POINT, itll knock down the target but not penetrate the cabin,
askme221 4 years ago
From the time you dial 9.1.1 to the time sufficent numbers of "officials" are on the scene, somebody's got to contain the situation. Wake-up people YOU are the real first responders. Here in Chicago a call to the police isn't a call for help, it's a call telling them where to find your body, thanks to Daley and his draconian gun control policies.
crispycritterz 4 years ago
Liar.
onebigcuban 4 years ago
He want's to do for America what he's done for New York. Take personal defense away and turn you all into potential murder victims.
crispycritterz 4 years ago
He said what he always says: 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11. What that asshole didnt tell you is how much money he makes as a direct result of 9/11. Looks like that tragedy was good for business. If you vote for him please kill yourself :)
Wolfskrieger1488 4 years ago
i second that
9ightech666 4 years ago
Did he actually say anything? Was I not listening hard enough?
3cl3c71k0r 4 years ago
no he didnt really say shit people just like to try and manipulate public view. this can be done very easily on youtube.
Fenix187 4 years ago
What a politician! Rudi Guiliani represents why people are turned off by politics. Maybe he should just answer "9/11" to every question and leave it at that.
Maybe he should have thought about the 2nd amendment back when he was mayor and all the smart people were warning about terrorism and how our bad foreign policy was planting the seeds for it. Rudy puts the Ghoul in Giuliani.
centure7 4 years ago
I'd hate to see this guy in office, I wanna keep my guns with me. The only reason he said all that is because he's in front of the NRA!
jarrettcannan23 4 years ago
He did a lot of talking.....but what did he say?
chatman4459 4 years ago
He said, "thinking about what he was thinking because we're entitled to his thinking." In short, he said, "I think therefore I'm your President in 2008.". Think about it and let it stew in your mind for awhile. Heh heh. (Stare into my Hyno-Toad!)
yrralebutuoy 4 years ago
Any Republican but Ghouliani. He might have been the best Repub for mayor of NYC, but he can't be the best one for president of the US or republicans are in big trouble.
RichardC111165 4 years ago
Vote Ron Paul for President. Ron Paul will fight for all of our Constitutional rights. Google Ron Paul, register Republican, vote in Primary. Ron Paul cured my apathy... Rudy-911 is a bitch!
craigslist04 4 years ago 2
This guy must think that we are all just a bunch of complete idiots! Everyone is stupid except for Rudy.
Doubleaughtbuckshot 4 years ago
lol.... 9/11 had absolutely nothing to do with guns!!!! Not a single shot was fired. Not on a plane. Not on the ground. If anything he should have been at the National Plane Association since that what the only weapon used.
bxblox 4 years ago
Maybe soon he will explain what he means aboot(canadian for about) guns and how it comes into the picture. Ask any gunsmith or many gun owners how heat affects steel.
blueshadow1996 4 years ago
exactly... but now lets say people were allowed to carry guns onto plans..
2 guys pop up with BOX CUTTERS... every single american pop up and points a gun at them... who wins??? the passangers
ok now lets say they got guns to... 2 guys pop up with guns.... 30 passangers pop up with guns... passangers win.
myth busters did a thing on shooting a gun to depresureize a plane... and the bullet CANT do it, so that reason is out.
BlueSky787 4 years ago
When it comes to guns whoever has the element of surprise will always get the first shot off. And if everyone had guns and so did they there would be a good western style shoot out at 15000 feet. Maybe a law officer with a gun on a plane is reasonable but everyone with a gun is not. Everyone should have to check their guns with their luggage as always and just have security on the plane.
bxblox 4 years ago
LOL, September 11th changed Rudy's mind on gun control? What does he think passengers should have been able to do, carry guns on the plane in order to prevent hijackers? Rudy is clearly the 9/11 pimp in this election.
classic14rider 4 years ago
how can he be leading the polls when everybody hates him?
znotty 4 years ago 3
BOOO!
I was at a gun show and the Republican booth was pumping Rudy! Thankfully, we had a Ron Paul booth at the other end of the show with support from various groups like OFF and the GOA.
Wake up guys! If anyone other than Ron Paul gets elected, you can kiss your guns goodbye! Thompson? Guliani? Romney? All vitriolic anti-gunners! Just as bad as Obama and Hillary.
sanarkhos 4 years ago
Pathetic, Rudy.
TOAOSpot 4 years ago
liar...
Mouserguy 4 years ago
what the fuck is he talking about...just vote for MIKE GRAVEL in 2008 and lets decide for ourselves about gun control (fuckin idiot rudy)
atman009 4 years ago
Rudy: " vote for me suckers"
fizmath 4 years ago 5
I don't care if the Democratic presidental candidate is a child molester, I will not vote republican.
ProjectM555 4 years ago
Would you vote Ron Paul?
MooseOfReason 4 years ago 2
Are the Republicans that stupid to think we would elect another Republican president???
Death Penalty for Bush, Dick"looks like a child molester"Cheney, Rummi, Condi and Gonzales.
ProjectM555 4 years ago
Don't disregard all the Republicans.
MooseOfReason 4 years ago
THIS GUY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT BY THE NRA AS HE STOOD THERE LYING HIS MURDERER ASS OFF! NRA members need to investigate 911. Start with WTC-7, which clearly shows an inplosion.
2edgesword 4 years ago 2
ispellbad:
Don't worry, I am well aware that the best crooks are usually "nice people." ;-)
lordnmb 4 years ago
rudy giuliani wants to take guns, not protect the second amendment. this guy is a sleaze and a liar.
whoseurgranny 4 years ago 3
Giuliani seems like a decent guy, however he looks a bit too much like a mobster for me to really trust.
lordnmb 4 years ago
GHOULiani is a lib in disguise, I hope no NRA members support him for president, remember he's the one who brought a lawsuit against gun makers and said they are "in the business of making money off killing people". I'd say Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee and to a lesser extent John McCain are the best pro-2nd amendment candidates.
usmcdevildog83 4 years ago
I'd say Giuliani has one of the prerequisites for being president down: He's adept at lying to large groups of people without smiling too much. Our current guy doesn't seem to have that part down entirely.
Slippojo 4 years ago 2
i think i can see his puppet strings.
whoseurgranny 4 years ago 2
Well where'd he steal that position? Ron Paul!
5ldfjsl3 4 years ago 4
Ron Paul 2008!
electrophonic 4 years ago 5
HA! HA! HA! HA!
linershade9991 4 years ago
what a fucking liar!! This man actually scares me. If he gets into office I seriously would consider leaving the country.
ae357em 4 years ago
Giuliani is a liar. You want your guns taken away from you, just put him in the White House. You want to keep your guns, put Ron Paul in the White House. RON PAUL for PRESIDENT!
bbburton 4 years ago 2
Lets face it - without 9/11 Rudy would be just another faceless lobbyist unkown to all outside of New York. It's hard not to believe that of all people exploiting that day, Rudy has made out like a bandit. Eventually someone is going to call him on this I expect, and he would do himself a favour at this point by never mentioning 911 again.
AetiusRomulous 4 years ago
Watching those animals running around in the wake of Katrina changed my mind on gun control.
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
People that change their opinions on rights and liberties based on 911, don't deserve to be in office.
oolong2 4 years ago 7
worries thee oh earth and sea, for the devil sends the beast with wroth, for he knows the time is short, let he who hath understanding, reckon the number of the beast, for it is of human number, it is number 9-11 and his name is rudy guilliani
F4O4U4R4S 4 years ago
I think the NRA saps bought it. Wow. What would they do if a real hero presented himself?
jimbojim68 4 years ago
Rudy: "911 911 911 911 911 911 911 911.....911."
foley15136 4 years ago 4
Search for "lois runs for office" on YouTube...
jabbott0 4 years ago
I have two videos where Giuliani talks about the lawsuit he filed against the gun industry. I have a hard time believing that he changed his beliefs.
jmegill 4 years ago
I called Giuliani's campaign office and they implied that once he was nominated I would see the real Rudy. Needless to say that scared the hell out of me:)
bigsid920 4 years ago 9
9/11 changed the brand of ice-cream i usually buy.
fmm3 4 years ago 8
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Rudy is the most honest, bestest candidate there is for President among the Republicans and Democrats, EVER. Hi cares about the people and all of humanity, etc. etc. etc...
franknyt 4 years ago
Are you joking? Or serious? I can't figure it out.
jasonschnarr 4 years ago
Joking. See my comment to Airborne373.
franknyt 4 years ago
The one star rating was for rudy not Veracifier.
airborne373 4 years ago
Hey Airborne373 maybe I can help express your disatisfaction withe Rudy...
franknyt 4 years ago
Rudy such an eel.
airborne373 4 years ago
For one, having a President so focused on punishing guilty criminals is just scary. This man is no diplomat. I am pro-gun (and anti-NRA)- All Rudy's doing here is preaching to the flock.
DastardlyMatt 4 years ago
Hey guys, do you remember September 11th? Well, I do. September 11th happened on September 11th, but it wasn't this past September 11th, but that should remind you of the first September 11th of which you should be reminded. Apparently I live in a September 11th Groundhog's Day time trap and cannot converse on any topic without letting everyone know about September 11th.
Love, Rudy G.
AdamJBernier 4 years ago 8
This is one of the funniest comments I have read in a long time!
nicolenigro 4 years ago
Kudos on the September 11/Groundhog Day comparison.
dafttool 4 years ago
Not only should we allow guns in classrooms (to stop crazed gumen) but we should allow guns on airplanes too! That will solve all our problems!
Confiscate the toothpaste and nail clippers, but let the guns right through.
heckofanutjob 4 years ago
Rudy is so living in 9/11.
Btw. I also think every person should have the right for his own personal air defence. So that we can prevent another 9/11........
mo1elftausend 4 years ago
I'd love for him to explain how handguns in the hands of private citizens could have stopped 9/11. Rudy, you can't shoot a plane down with a 9mm.
adventurenox 4 years ago 5
That guy is truly scum, absolute scum.
yt5454 4 years ago 3