Assault on Copwatcher by Berkeley Officer, (Peter Hong) ASSAULT FROM A FEW YEARS BACK

[kxgotdirt]

Copwatcher is an idiot !!!!

[HughGeeRekshin]

and this is why we all hate you stupid Berkeley hipster liberal douchetards. You were breaking the law, antagonizing the police, and you weren't assaulted. You should have been assaulted, but weren't. Vegan pussy.

[polabear001]

FAIL

this one is bullshit. you fucked up and the cops if anything were being nice about it. they could have slammed you with an obstruction charge and used your own video to convict you.

[CaptainCocaine]

Get copwatching right, dude. You're not supposed to engage detained suspects or the police (unless the police engage you first). He acknoledged your right to be there and record, but you failed to acknowledge his right to conduct a legal investigation without being obstructed.

[Bloodhoun34Returns]

you know.... i just realised something.. Under the Harrassment issue on youtube's policy this video can be flagged for promoting hatred/violence. so now i'm going to be ''that guy'' and find every cop watching video and go ahead and flag it. If you also hate these stupid no job no life fuckers please do flag with ''promoted hatred and violence'' reason being ''clearly stating police are untrustworthy and should follow them and not allow them to keep us safe''

[ocelot44revolver]

@Bloodhoun34Returns I believe these videos are actually an attempt to reduce hatred violence.

[dakman8417]

One thing to say about this vid: false advertising. You shame the COPWATCH brand.

[levelninetroll]

OH MY GOD!!! HE TOUCHED ME! OH MY GOD, THE PAIN!! MY HAND HAS BEGUN DECOMPOSING, I CAN FEEL EVERY CELL DIE!! HE HAS DISEASED ME, THIS IS SO HORRIBLE!!! seriously though, i think i missed the part where he assaults you

[DerangederX]

@levelninetroll Basically, touching someone with out their consent is assault. Battery is when you inflict injury or harm upon another person. "Technically" what the officer did was assault him by touching his hand.

[paulsreay1]

i wonder what percentage of american cops were actually born in America. it must be very low

[RandomLevitation]

When he raised his hands and said "Cmon man...Dont interfere...Please dont interfere" All you had to say was "What your doing is illegal".

At that moment, When he kindly asked you as what seemed like a person to a person, and not a cop to a person, You were rude and refused, which not only makes you an asshole by definition, But to them, a potential person to get involved in their investigation, which is, against the law.

[weelgunny]

neat lookin corvair accross the street



[Peterbj]

Berkeley Police are the worst.  Especially that short guy that's with Hong.

[AJS0121]

Where was the asault?

[LTL220]

ihavelynnmoses WANS TO LIVE IN A POLICE STATE SO HE CAN SUCK MORE AND MORE PIG SHIT DICK!!

[LTL220]

PEOPLE LIKE ihatelynnmoses ARE USED TO TAKING PIG DICK UP THEIR ASS AND HAVE COME TO LOVE IT.

I WILL NEVER LAY DOWN. BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THAN SUCK PIG SHIT DICK LIKE ihatelynnmuses. HE'LL SUCK ANYTHING PIGS STUFF DOWN HIS THROAT.

[LTL220]

KEEP THE GREAT WORK !!

[LTL220]

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK COPWATCH!!

[ColeFried81]

Cops are assholes but sometimes you copwatchers ask for confrontation. WTF do expect to unfold when you do stuff like this? The same would go if you started filming a domestic dispute between two neighbors. You think they wouldn't engage with you? My point stands - if you ask for stuff like this you deserve it.

[badpanda84]

In fact this is a "good" cop -- most cops in this situation would make him turn off the camera or leave the area.

In this case the cop even said he could obsevere.

[LTL220]

ITS TIME TO BBQ SOME PIGS!!!

AND ASS LICKING TROLLS LIKE IhateLynnMoses < HE LIKES LICKING PIG ASS AND SUCKING PIG DICK.

KEEP SUCKING YOUR MOTHERS SHIT DICK! YOU TROLL! OR IS YOUR MOUTH FULL OF YOUR BOYFRIENDS PIG NUTS

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 You really are a MORON!!!! I would love to be a cop and deal some justice to scumbag gangsta wannabes like you! And my mouth is full of your mother's tongue!! and she tastes good!!!

[LTL220]

@IhateLynnMoses I HAD YOU PIG DICK SUCKING TROLL PEGGED FROM THE BEGINING. I KNEW YOUR MOTHER BUTT FUCKED YOU WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE PIG DICK SUCKER.

AND THAT MUST NOT BE MY MOTHER...SHE DOESN'T BRUSH, LOL!

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 Oh good a reply from my favourite moron! How ya doing today, moron? I hope one of your gangsta wannabe boyfriends rapes you and your mother and then call the cops, and they show up and look at you and just leave you to it! And you mother doesn't brush? So she isn't the only one who talks shit eh?

[LTL220]

@IhateLynnMoses OH GOOD ITS PIG DICK SUCKING FAG TROLL. HOW YOU DOING PIG DICK SUCKER FAG TROLL? YOU MOTHER IS STILL BUTT FUCKING YOU WITH YOUR SISTERS DILDO, THATS WHY YOU LIKE TO SUCK PIG DICK SOO MUCH. YOU LIKE TO TALK SHIT SO MUCH CAUSE YOUR FAG PIG BOYFRIEND(MOTHER) SITS AND CRAPS ON YOUR FACE AND MOUTH.

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 OH GOOD ITS SCUMBAG LOVING SHITHEAD LTL220. HOW YOU DOING SCUMBAG LOVING SHITHEAD? I PRAY FOR THE DAY WHEN SOME COP ACCIDENTLY SHOOTS YOU IN THE HEAD! BUT DON'T WORRY IT WON'T DO ANY DAMAGE, IT WILL MISS YOUR PEA SIZED BRAIN! HAVE ANICE DAY, SCUMBAG LOVING SHITHEAD.

[LTL220]

@IhateLynnMoses YOU TYPE PRETTY GOOD WITH PIG DICK IN YOUR MOUTH. KEEP PRAYING WHILE YOU LICK PIG ASS AND SUCK PIG DICK. GET ON YOUR KNEES, LIKE YOU'RE USED TO, AND SUCK THE PIG DICK YOU TELL US YOU LOVE SO MUCH! ALL YOU FAG PIGS ihatelynnmoses WILL SUCK YOUR PIG DICK AND LICK YOUR PIG ASS. HE LOVES IT, HE'S A PIG SHIT DICK SUCKER!! WHAT EVERY A PIG STUFFES IN HIS MOUTH HE WILL SUCK DOWN WITH A SMILE. PRAY FOR MORE PIG SHIT DICK YOU FAG PIG LOVER!! YOUR MOTHER TAUGHT YOU TO SUCK SHIT DICK WELL!

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 And you type pretty good while you're dragging your knuckles across the floor, you scumbag loving shithead! Are you from a troubled backgrouond? Did your father give you a good fucking everytime you woke up? Keep sucking your scumbag gangsta wannabe boyfriends cock, and hopefully one day you'll be put out of your misery by a good cop. FUCK YOU

[LTL220]

I'LL BET YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER small DICK DINK PIG ON A POWER TRIP

BRING THE SAUCE DINK I'LL FLAMBE YOU WITH IT!

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 No I'm not a cop just a law abiding citizen (something you know nothing about prick). What sauce would you like? And you can even bring your boyfriend as well - I'll barbecue the two of you. FUCKWIT

[IhateLynnMoses]

What assault? You're just a pussy if you think that was assault!!

[InusSonCurtis]

@IhateLynnMoses Pussy or not placeing your hands upon another person with the intent to restrain, inpede or otherwise do something nonconsented is assault. Actually to be perfectly honest it's assault and battery, assault is merely making the movement.

[IhateLynnMoses]

@InusSonCurtis Like I said - What assault!?? The cop never touched him or made an aggresive move towards him. All he said was that he should not talk to the guy!

[LTL220]

ITS TIME TO BBQ SOME F'N PIGS!!!

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 It's time to barbecue dickheads like you - I'll bring the sauce!

[LTL220]

@IhateLynnMoses KEEP LICKING PIG ASS AND SUCKING PIG DICK YOURE A FAG PIG LOVER

[IhateLynnMoses]

@LTL220 And you're just a sad pathetic excuse for a human being! Where was the assault? Go back and suck your gangsta wannbe boyfriend's cock! I would love to be a cop and beat up shitheads like you! Have a nice day now!

[abukamoon]

I don't see any assault. Both parties could stand to learn about interpersonal communications.

[ecotts]

Here's a question for everyone to dwell on; If the government expects you to follow the law of the land, why is it they've never seen to it that every single man, woman & child is taught LAW fully throughout the education system?

In actual fact why is it that the establishment never makes each and every police officer regularly sit law exams to help enable them to make rational, sure decisions when they're in the field?

They don't want you to know anything that can enable you to question them.

[Mr127superdee]

@BFD2245 he didn't assault him on camera because he blocked the camera how stupid do you think people are?

[barneyfzr600]

Why would you interfere with a police investigation????? I don't like cops, but I do not cross the line!!!!!! What U did was interfere with they're investigation. Did I hear correctly that that was the 3rd time? Go ask yourself if it was justified for you to be there at all! You probably made it worse for the offendant by your actions. I've been locked up, & don't want no peeps in my biz unless I'm gettin the crap beatin out of me by police! Understood?

[1775novten]

@barneyfzr600 Are people not allowed to speak when police are around? I've never heard of such a law. I could see maybe if the officer was speaking to a suspect and you were trying to also speak to the suspect over top of what the officer was saying. But in this situation it appeared that the officers were going through this guys car while he was standing off to the side. No officers were speaking to him, so why can't he talk? I just don't see how that's interference.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "No officers were speaking to him, so why can't he talk? I just don't see how that's interference."

But it dosent look like the guy getting arrested wanted to speak to the copwatcher.. The reason it is interference is because the copwatcher could aggretive the sitaution..

Besides the guy being arrested is excersing his 5th amendment rights -- if he spoke to the copwatcher it could still be used agasit him in court

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 The suspect definitely started the conversation - it wasn't the other way around. The suspect was definitely not exercising his 5th amendment. And you're right, it could aggravate the situation by talking to a suspect and informing him of his rights; however, the only people that would get aggravated would be the police officers, because they will no longer be able to take advantage of the suspect and it would be caught on film - which police hate to be held accountable.

[chuckmartin00]

95% of cop make the other look bad

[BigEvan96]

these cops were just. They even gave him a warning...dicks like these make real patriots look like idiots. This guy just hates every cop in general.

[N2thedrink]

for those one way bastards saying he was not assaulted.....try telling that to cops who you've brushed against while walking away.

IT WAS AN ASSAULT per cop defintion. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

[donovanj2005]

Talking about a warrant, and a search of the trunk.. chances are that guy was under ARREST. You are not allowed to talk to someone in custody and interfere with an investigation. So many of the copwatch guys go beyond observing. IF you're going to copwatch, you should have a training session or something and make sure you guys know the difference between observing, and interfering.

[1775novten]

@donovanj2005 Wait, you're saying I'm not allowed to talk to someone in custody? What law is that? People in custody have visitors who talk to them all the time. So if someone else gets put into custody then I lose my 1st Amendment rights? I don't understand the logic. I understand not talking over an officer who is trying to speak to someone in custody, but if an officer isn't talking to him then why can't I? How is that interfering with what they are doing?

[donovanj2005]

@1775novten Someone in jail or prison and having visitors is different than someone that was just arrested on the street. When that person is in cuffs and not yet being transported, it's still an ongoing investigation.(example) If you go to court, it's a crime to talk to the defendant, says so on a few signs in the courtroom. Talking to any of them is interfering while the investigation is being conducted if you don't have anything to do with what's going on like a witness, suspect, etc.

[1775novten]

@donovanj2005 It is definitely selectively enforced and only enforced if the observer is trying to inform the suspect of his rights. For example, if I walked up to a vehicle search and said "Hey man, just tell them were the drugs are and they'll go easy on you", I'm sure the officer would say "yeah, you might want to listen to him". But if I instead said "Hey man, did you give them consent to search?", then all of a sudden it's interfering - it's a joke.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "It is definitely selectively enforced and only enforced if the observer is trying to inform the suspect of his rights. "

Actually the main time police enforce that rule ( interfering with police) is when they are trying to calm a situation down -- or break up a fight..

As a bouncer when you break up a fight the last thing you want is some loud mouth aggrativing the situation further.

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 I disagree. And I'm sure this suspect didn't know the rights he couldn't evoke. I'm sure the officers lied or threaten him to be able to search his vehicle. I can see what your saying in some instances - like if the observer his also yelling and cussing and trying to instigate the situation. I just don't think that was the case here.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten ". I'm sure the officers lied or threaten him to be able to search his vehicle."

And how did you come to that conclusion?? You do realise that the police might actually have probable cause.

Not every police search is illegal

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 No, not every search is illegal. However, most searches are conducted without enough reasonable suspicion and instead require the motorist to consent. And most of those consents are given because the officers threaten force or monetary penalties. For example, if you refuse consent - the officer will them say "ok, well then we are going to impound your vehicle at your expense and hold it until we get a warrant ." So they deprive of your vehicle and cost you if you don't play along.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten " However, most searches are conducted without enough reasonable suspicion "

Yes but is this particual video one of those cases.. besides "reasonable suspicion can mean anything and that get determined at court ( not on the roadside while you are getting arrested)

"penalties. For example, if you refuse consent - the officer will them say"

If he has reasoable cause then it dosent matter if you consent or not

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 Yes, it is possible that in this video that the police lied to the driver and persuaded him into consent. Yes, the police in the field can do whatever they want, and it then later be determined by a court that there wasn't enough reasonable suspicion, but who suffers if the cop was wrong? Not the cop - only the citizen. The cop gets no penalty and the citizen is left with a "sorry, we were wrong - have a good day".

[badpanda84]

NO the cops only need probably cause ( of course a warrant is even better)

remeber anything from ( he appears intoxicated -- to we got reports of a stolen car matching that descrption) is enough for proabably cause

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 Yes, but does "he appears intoxicated" equate to search of his vehicle? I agree that police only need reasonable suspicion that a crime is, has, or will be committed. But the investigation has to center around the accused crime. It doesn't give the police carte blanche to do whatever they want once they have you in custody. Again, if they have a warrant to seize your car, it doesn't mean they can go in your house and go through your computer and files.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "Yes, but does "he appears intoxicated" equate to search of his vehicle? "

Yes because the only need probably cause -- and that will hold up in court.

remeber probably cause dosent mean the officer needs to be 100% sure he has commited a crime --

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 I disagree. If you suspect the driver is drunk, then you can detain the driver. However, that does not give an officer probable cause to search his vehicle. They are two separate actions. I'll us my same example - If the police have a warrant to seize my car, that doesn't give them authority to also search my house. The warrant specifies what you can search and seize - just like probable cause is specific.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "I disagree. If you suspect the driver is drunk, then you can detain the driver."

Yes it dose because once someone is detained they are automatically subject to search.

"The warrant specifies what you can search and seize - just like probable cause is specific."

WRONG that is totally wrong -- probably cause is not specific.. there is no list of things which count as probably cause..

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 We were agreeing on the first half. My point was that if you detain a driver for suspected drunk driving - that doesn't necessarily give an officer probably cause to search the vehicle.

Correct, probable cause means that the officer needs reasonable and articulate-able suspicion that a crime has, is, or will be committed. Without that, there is no probable cause.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "that doesn't necessarily give an officer probably cause to search the vehicle."

yes it dose give probably cause-- remeber probably cause can be any bullshit the officer comes up with.

"needs reasonable and articulate-able suspicion that a crime has, is, or will be committed"

that is a very vauge defintion -- just about any bullshit the cops can come up with can be considered probably cause. Of course drink driving in itself is a crime.

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 It's not as vague as it appears and there have been many supreme court cases to uphold it. What it means is that the officer needs to be able to say/write what crime specifically he is suspecting of being committed and has to explain exactly what evidence he has to give him that suspicion. Yes, drunk driving is a crime and gives cops enough suspicion to arrest you.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten " It's not as vague as it appears and there have been many supreme court cases to uphold it"

Sure if its a big case and you have a ton of money to waste on a lawyer to take it to the supreme court

but if you are charged with a minor charge -( say possesion of a small amount of drugs or DUI ) then it wont got that

[NWOisFINISHED]

@1775novten Drunk driving is only a crime if you are a us citizen. Being a sovereign you only have the common law; don't cause damage to anyone or their property. Driving while drunk is only a crime if you hit someone or somehow damage someone or their property. Want to watch a drunk freeman educate a cop on this? Check out watch?v=rtkdDMSXMmc It's not the way to do it tho. The movement is about peace, love & educating the police. He is absolutely right, though thoroughly wrong in his execution.

[1775novten]

@NWOisFINISHED First that video was in Canada, not the U.S. Second, I'm not sure what it is supposed to prove. The kid was arrested and his vehicle was towed, just like the officer said would happen. So how did all his sovereign mumbo jumbo help him? I thought you were going to show me a video of someone who was suspected of driving while impaired and was then let go, because a freeman talked his way out of it.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "probable cause means that the officer needs reasonable and articulate-able suspicion that a crime has"

that is whatever the hell the cops write in the police report.. The other probelm is that reasonable cause get determined in court... when you are getting arrested for drink driving that is not the time to argue wheather he has reasonable cause or not

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 You and I have already come to the agreement that no one can resist arrest. If the LEO says you are under arrest, you can not resist or you will get an additional charge of resisting. I know and understand that and am not disputing that. However, I do believe you can refuse to comply with unlawful orders. Another example - if a cop starts asking me questions, I can say "I don't consent to answering any questions" and the cop can NOT charge me with not complying, but will threaten it.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "Another example - if a cop starts asking me questions, I can say "I don't consent to answering any questions"

that is true -- but that dosent apply to searching a vechile.. Once you are arrested you are subject to search..--

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 Correct, you are - not your vehicle, nor your home. But these back and forths between you and I are moot. You can consent to do whatever a cop tells you do to. I however, will not. Yes, I may be arrested and have an additional charge levied against me, but I will not concede to something that is unconstitutional just out of fear of threats of violence. If you don't take a stand for what is right, then you are just another sheep in the pasture and are condoning their actions.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "You can consent to do whatever a cop tells you do to. I however, will not."

that is irrevlant if they have probably cause -- they can search anyway with or without your consent -

You really should rename these video -- there are some police bruailty video out there -- but this is not one of them.. But labeling this a police bruailty it trivilises police bruailty.. ( ie makes it sound like no big deal)..

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 It's not my vid and I agree with you that calling it an assault is an exaggeration. HOWEVER, if you even touch an officer, like the officer did to the camera man, you're damn right that you'll be charged with assaulting an officer. So maybe that's why the posting of this video labeled it as such.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten If this is an assult then police bruailty is no big deal.

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 Agreed.

[badpanda84]

@1775novten ". I'm sure the officers lied or threaten him to be able to search his vehicle."

Did something about a warrant get mentioned in this video -- obviously based on 1 minute of footage we cant get the full story..  But if the police acutally had a warranat then it is a legal search.

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 Yes, if the officers had a warrant to search the vehicle, then is legal. However, when was the last time you have heard of a warrant being issued to pull a vehicle over and search it? Lets say the driver even had a warrant - are you implying that that automatically gives the officers authority to search the vehicle? I say no. If they serve a warrant for someone at a house, that doesn't give them the right to search the drawers in that house does it?

[badpanda84]

@1775novten "but if an officer isn't talking to him then why can't I? How is that interfering with what they are doing?"

If the guy being arrested is smart he wouldn't talk to you anyway.. because anytihng he says can be used agaist him in court

[1775novten]

@badpanda84 That doesn't answer the question. The officers aren't speaking to him themselves, then why can't I "legally" talk to him? I believe I know that answer and that it is because they don't want you informing him of his rights and getting evidence on film. And I'll give my other example again of - if I was telling the suspect to comply and just tell them were the drugs are, then I'm sure the police would threaten me with arrest - true or not?

[11mac11s]

That was pushing it there buddy. Don't do that again please. Just stand on the side and watch.  You're lucky that cop didn't arrest you.

[TheEodtch]

Umm not sure these guys know what assault means... Seems lik Berkeley cops are very patient. You guys make yourself look bad.

[Booger6995]

Cameraman is totally wrong here. Do not engage the cops. Evidently he doesn't understand the rules of video taping cops in public. Your not helping the cause at all.

[truckdawg43]

I clearly heard him say dont do this please .If you was in Texas they would have said put it up shut up and sit your stupid ass down or we gonna take you to jail boy .No please no second chances .I would say those are some pretty nice police men ya got there .

[BatmanProject777]

Time to admit you were wrong and remove the vid. Your hurting the cause ! Don't  'muddy' the waters with this childishness.

[RPDillon73]

The cameraman should have been nailed to the curb. I am not a cop, but I sure as hell wouldn't stand there pestering and provoking. The police in my city would not be expected to have this level of patience with this fool.

[briggs9187]

@BFD2245 Police enforce Code, Not law, the courts only have two reasons for claiming Jurisdiction on you, Civil or Criminal Cases and the Code that Police enforce is neither, and it can only be enforced when you give the Cops and the courts Jurisdiction. Cite me all you want but I do not Consent to Any Contracts being placed against me and I waive the Benefit, I claim Common Law Jurisdiction. Police Serve and Protect the Corporations they work for, they don't help or serve you.

[vada2000]

wow i so wanna go to Berkeley and start a group to follow these pricks with cameras and annoy the piss out of them

[eamonob84]

where was the assault? why dont you quit interfering in their investigation? you're the one being the dick here, not the officers.

[dingumfCallofDuty]

@eamonob84 that's not interfering. The cop was the one who just had to take filming negatively. He could have just gone on with his business not minding the camera.

[eamonob84]

@dingumfCallofDuty they are interfering - they are trying to talk with the suspect that's in custody while the police are conducting an investigation. how are they not interfering?

[Fenyx6]

If the cops were doing their job correctly what do they have to worry about that's on video? Citizens should be allowed to record police as long as they do not interfere.

I just heard about a man from Illinois who may get 15 years for "recording an officer without permission." I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

[GManKeepsltReaI]

Who's is the pussy behind the camera?

[strobelight487]

Whoever the camera man is......Your a punk little tittie baby. Go get your pacifier and shut the fuck up. To the one who posted this, "assult on copwhatcher" your a douce crybaby.

[SporkFire]

@strobelight487

I think your mother forgot to bring you to school when you were a child because you suck at spelling.

[strobelight487]

@SporkFire Well, Im glad to see the Youtube grammer police is "trolling" the videos commenting on trivial spelling errors instead of keeping focus on the issue at hand. It seems you have more problems than me. Douche bag MORON!!

[SporkFire]

@strobelight487

LOL!!! You can't even spell grammar correctly.

[strobelight487]

@SporkFire Hoked on fonics reely wurkd fur me!! Grow up dumbass. Are you even old enough to be on here? Is daddy still abusing you(sexually)? Not enough of mommys tit(at 12 yrs old)? When you become old enough to be a decent part of society, I hope you run your trap to someones face. But, I guess your too chicken sh*t to say something in person. Your a pretty big talker behind that keyboard. Moronic child.

[SporkFire]

@strobelight487

LOL x2!!! You keep incorrectly using YOUR when you should be using YOU'RE.

[AJS0121]

You call that an assault?!?! Punk lottle poser crybaby! Your to dumb to be alive!

[gretschsounds]

beat those niggers down like rodney king..everybody hates niggers..even niggers hate niggers..niggers are filled with self hatred..niggers are Ignorant Crime Apes

[WhiskeyBravo93]

Quit being a dick and let the police do their job. Copwatch,lol get a fucking life.

[powergentry]

I guess I need to watach another video before I leave a comment I must have missed something. This guy isn't realy filming cops and flapping his gum's while he does it? If this is the case its simple obstruction of justice and where I live they will take joy to jail. The cop's here in Montana cut people a lot of slack we don't fear our officers but we haven't pissed them off. If we open carry pistol, We don't get pressed. In Montana everyone is treated the same, They even treat crooks good in MT

[alpineace2003]

@powergentry That's because Montana has lots of self-sufficient people with high powered, scoped rifles. So, the cops actually try to get along well with citizens. Rather than act like tyrants, like many of them do in big cities.

[TheBoHoBoy]

was he in custody or being "detained" hey that chinky cunt would,nt last 5 mins in his own country

[splob1]

BPD can go to hell. I've been harassed numerous times by these thugs. I have a job, home, car, etc. I'm a middle aged man -not a hippie. "Cops have a tough job" fine, their choice; Does that excuse them when they harass law abiding citizens?

[cursivedragon]

OK I dislike crooked cops as much as the next civilized person. But is it really fair to talk to a perp while in custody? I mean he can comprimise/impeed the officers investigation. What if that guy was a suspect to a rape or something?

[alpineace2003]

@cursivedragon Welcome to America! You have the right to remain SILENT! No ifs, ands, or buts.

[thealumbrado]

Yes, you have the right to look at, or even video public employees when they are working out in public. But guess what? In the middle of that sort of situation, the police also have the right to decide how far away you have to be. In both of the videos, the officer treated the person with the camera by the book. You really want to help, not just stroke your own egos with false claims? Go to the PCC, and strap on a hidden camera, then go out on their covert observations.

[solovocal]

@thealumbrado I dont know the laws in berkely but where I live, its illegal to video tape people without their word of consent.

[thealumbrado]

@solovocal Well the laws on recording (such as phone taps) rely a lot on the reasonable expectation of privacy standard. Last I checked, there isn't any in public, which is why the cops don't need a warrant or consent to video tape *you* on the street. I've heard some departments claim they should be able to have it both ways, but if any federal courts have agreed with that, I've missed it.

[solovocal]

@thealumbrado California has a law on taping without the individuals word of consent, excluding law enforcement officials. PENAL CODE

SECTION 630-638

[thealumbrado]

@solovocal I see where that code talks about private communications. I don't see where it says that only the police can use video surveillance.

[solovocal]

@thealumbrado You may already know, Video camera captures some form of communication(sound/physical).­. and in paragraph two in the panel code answers your question on police. End of conversation.

[ski2exs]

@solovocal Which of course is a far, far stretch. . for instance. . this video. . is anything the police doing there something 'private'. . . no, it's on public roads, in public view, and said to where any member of the public walking by can hear.

Quit supporting croonieism. End of conversation.

[thealumbrado]

@solovocal You are entitled to your opinion, and the courts are entitled to theirs. On this topic, I suspect the courts know what they are talking about.

[rentiap]

@solovocal If you believe that penal code applies to you then you must be under the misconception that you are a "person"

The only ones that I see under that code are.

631. (a) Any person who,

632. (a) Every person who,

632.5. (a) Every person who

632.6. (a) Every person who,

632.7. (a) Every person who, Etcetera.

Nowhere in any of those quoted codes does it refer to a Man or Woman,,,And I am not a state defined juristic person, nor am I a person as defined in any code,statute law etcetera

[solovocal]

@rentiap Im not sure what your trying to PROVE here because you dont make any sense, I suggest you go look up the definition of the word "Person" and rethink what you just wrote to me.

[rentiap]

@solovocal California penal code 632 (b) The term "person" includes an individual, business

association, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, or

other legal entity, and an individual acting or purporting to act for

or on behalf of any government or subdivision thereof, whether

federal, state, or local, but excludes an individual known by all

parties to a confidential communication to be overhearing or

recording the communication.

[rentiap]

@solovocal h t t p : / / bindingthefirmdotmyfastforumdo­torg/download/filedotphp?id=48

you will have to remove some spaces and replace "dot" with "." to get this to work this is a treatise on 'Not_A_Person_Me.pdf  maybe you can figure out if you are a "person" or not.

[rentiap]

@solovocal Please show me a definition of the term "person" in any code, law, statute,public policy that has man or woman included in that definition of the term????

[benfirst]

Police need to clean up the shit like this in Berkeley.

[aikeno7777]

which part about observe dont these fucking camera jockeys get, stand back, STFU and OBSERVE

[My1968Impala]

Out in public, you can legally take pictures or video of anything you want. The only reason cops don't like it, is because they often have something to hide----like police excessive force.

[james662662662]

Aww, does your pussy hurt? He touched yow camewa. Waaaaaaahhhh waaaahhhh! Those are some nice graphics in the begining. Maybe you should get a job and put those skills to work.

[chuy13sr]

Wtf are these dog eatin chinks doing azz pigz fukk them biitch made mutha fukaz

[crittertv]

Bored hippie stoners that think they are within their rights to hassle the police, playing with fire you guys, Police work is serious buisness and can be dangerous and volitile, way out of your realm video amatuer, looks like the Cop gave you a break on this one, The BPD is a great dept. and they are used to cop watchers so they tolerate you guys but be carefull and have a lawyer on retainer for what you are doing.

[ed2276]

Asking the person who was detain a question does not constitute interference with a police investigation Both the videographer and the person detain voluntarily entered into a conversation with each other and didn't do so for an unlawful purpose. Neither of them suggested resisting the cops, escaping, or obstructing the cops.

Just because that guy was detained/arrested does not mean that he gives up his right to speak to whomever he wishes.

The cops may not like it, but too bad.

[cairnsguy22]

Clearly you have never heard of Miranda Rights. And if you take time to listen to anything other than your biased point of view against the officer, you'll notice he says "that's the fourth time you've done it." To be quite honest at that point the officer could have been a total dick and put the guy in cuffs for obstruction if he truly wanted to. Give people an inch, and stupid, overly sheltered pricks take a mile. Welcome to America.

[poppimple]

lol thought so! ;)

[poppimple]

To be honest you sound like a pot head from Berkeley with nothing better to do than to mess around with the Berkeley police department; police have an old saying "they hate us until they need us". Let them do their job. You're making their job much more complicated for no real reason; all cops are not bad cops. Most of them are good.

[poppimple]

If he's arrested that does not lawfully give you the right to interfere with their investigation; you can observe but you can not interfere. I am suprised you were not arrested.

[SubtleDemise]

It wasn't interfering.

[rentiap]

@poppimple please state the code,regulation,statute,law,pu­blic policy or legislation that backs up your claim.....

[conspiracy777]

The officer is correct. If you interfere with the "perp" you are interfering with an incident / investigation in progress. They DO have the obligation to isolate the perp for his safety and theirs.

You MUST remain passive and not active in the investigation. Your right to observe is not a right to interfere.

[poppimple]

Why do you keep messing with please then crying "assault"? I am sure this isnt the first time for you yet you return for more. If you wanna improve the cops try to become one and show a good example.

[jlittleope1]

so what would the charge be? Interfering with a police investigation?

[poppimple]

Damn that Berkeley police officer owned you; you were on hush mode after he warned you. Stop fucking with police idiot! Find something more constructive to do.

[kokobaboko]

You can't talk to a god like that. What were you thinking, he might have smote you with his fire stick, the power tripping cunt.