Text considerations are not license to omit all musical or stylistic integrity...he does a good job with the tempo he has chosen, but the score is marked--in my edition--"Etwas geschwind (Poco Allegro)". There is nothing "Allegro" about this at all.
Also, at this tempo, the 'Anger" of the text is lost. The singer is not LITERALLY the titan Atlas...it is the voice of an ill fated lover...hence the definite article "Der". The next song gives likely context.
Atlas stands for itself, the subject of the LIED needs an Atlas' strength to drag the weight of a complex suffering about an untold human relation (remember Schubert's own situation), we can go for a word by word analysis but the dinamics and written notes must be interpreted by a singer and the singer turns to be part of this artistic complex work (creation/recreation in the sense of creating a new work by his own!!! it is his right and obligation) the (Dies) irae or wrath comes out justly
Admittedly, I am a fan of the tyrannical interpreter that ignores the composer when he or she so chooses...but I also exercise that same right in my criticism of this interpretation. Your comment presupposed objectivity when you wrote that you "hope [I] do understand the text"...so I responded with objective facts.
But why fight? I love Christoff as much as the next guy...I just don't like his choice of tempi here.
great, two Christoff's fan met here, a couple of Schubert's require bass voice as Aufenthalt, Der Atlas and a lot more I hear a Wotan in a couple of them hiden in Franz Scubert's body with the lance pointing with wrath, and the Baches wiegenlied needs the absolute silence in the loudest painful cryout those gems listened alive by DFD and Peter Schreiersome female singers tried to give back something Erlkonig by Jerome Hines, sorry BC yes and so on keep the spirit
This is the best rendition ever!!
calligop 2 years ago
Man, this is so slow it's painful.
Chiliarches 3 years ago
as it should be, hope you do understand the text
egymagyar1111111 2 years ago
Yes; I have performed the song.
Text considerations are not license to omit all musical or stylistic integrity...he does a good job with the tempo he has chosen, but the score is marked--in my edition--"Etwas geschwind (Poco Allegro)". There is nothing "Allegro" about this at all.
Also, at this tempo, the 'Anger" of the text is lost. The singer is not LITERALLY the titan Atlas...it is the voice of an ill fated lover...hence the definite article "Der". The next song gives likely context.
Chiliarches 2 years ago
Atlas stands for itself, the subject of the LIED needs an Atlas' strength to drag the weight of a complex suffering about an untold human relation (remember Schubert's own situation), we can go for a word by word analysis but the dinamics and written notes must be interpreted by a singer and the singer turns to be part of this artistic complex work (creation/recreation in the sense of creating a new work by his own!!! it is his right and obligation) the (Dies) irae or wrath comes out justly
egymagyar1111111 2 years ago
Admittedly, I am a fan of the tyrannical interpreter that ignores the composer when he or she so chooses...but I also exercise that same right in my criticism of this interpretation. Your comment presupposed objectivity when you wrote that you "hope [I] do understand the text"...so I responded with objective facts.
But why fight? I love Christoff as much as the next guy...I just don't like his choice of tempi here.
Chiliarches 2 years ago
great, two Christoff's fan met here, a couple of Schubert's require bass voice as Aufenthalt, Der Atlas and a lot more I hear a Wotan in a couple of them hiden in Franz Scubert's body with the lance pointing with wrath, and the Baches wiegenlied needs the absolute silence in the loudest painful cryout those gems listened alive by DFD and Peter Schreiersome female singers tried to give back something Erlkonig by Jerome Hines, sorry BC yes and so on keep the spirit
egymagyar1111111 2 years ago