why do they call it BRAZILLIAN jiu jitsu? it was invented by a japanese guy who moved to brazil and taught it to brazillians. thay doesnt make it brazillian.
@last1000 It's because maeda carried on his quest in promoting Judo, around the world after teaching the gracies for about 2 years then, the gracies were left to change and create new techniques etc,
@DrlchknJr no the difference is that if you get hit in the face you will get bruising which will go away in a week, in BJJ, you get your leg broken, knee dislocated, arm broken, shoulder dislocated, elbow dislocated or snapped, that can cripple you for a lifetime, so not it's not just wrapping around it's more dangerous.
@OMGlo0lz Because it is an extremely effective move which you can create an opportunity from nearly all positions, as the rule of thumb when it comes to armbars, TAP or SNAP.
@TheTomWIlliams punch your way out??? sorry man but you got about 3 seconds before complete blackout if caught in a choke and even less before a snapped arm or destroyed knee tendon if caught in a lock. theres really no bullshit behind the expression "tap or snap"
@TheTomWIlliams unless you would like to break your own arm, naturally your body puts itself in a protective position to prevent injury which doesn't work because of course its leverage which the body can not stop if you go to twist your body while the load is still on your elbow then your just manipulating your elbow worse, its tap or snap.
@TheTomWIlliams once any kind of those locks are completely done, you better not try to resist unless yo have the strenght to make a super WWE bomb an KO the submiter, because the injuries of those locks are really bad
El jiujitsu brasileño es tan técnico y bueno por dos razones: la primera es que fue perfeccionada "en la cancha" es decir; Maeda quien les enseñó jiujitsu a los Gracie y los mismos Gracies que lucharon cientos de peleas contra personas que tenían diferentes estilos; la segunda es que Helio Gracie la transformó en un arte que puede ser aprendida por cualquiera, para derrotar a cualquiera independientemente del tamaño tuyo o del contrincante.
Lots of comments on the joke I made. The proof is in the training: Hours/Days/Years rolling around with sweaty men. Why not spend all that time rolling around with women? They make their CAREERS revolve around rolling around with other sweaty men, the goal: to DOMINATE the other sweaty man. Who has the "gay tendencies"? A lot of comments on a topic I made a joke about. No prob. with gays here, just not my style. Sorry to offend your sexual preference. Who cares what I think anyway, right?
I have no desire to roll around on the ground with another half-naked man for hours at a time, day in and day out, just to win a trophy and brag. I would rather get REALLY good at kicking someone's nuts from under them then take a fight to a street curb. Kiss already! Or is it a rape/domination thing. Hours/Days/Years rolling around with sweaty men. Undeniably great defense technique against rapists. Too much time with dudes on the floor. Like wrestling. Not really for me.
@owlandtree You know, there is clinching and hugging in just about every martial art discipline, especially boxing. That is just the time a great grappler would need to put you to sleep with ease. But then again, why waste time doing that, to prove some Random YouTube guy wrong? Nah!!!
@kanguesso: That is why grappling is not my thing. There are defensive moves in FMA and Aikido that should do. I am not a career prize fighter and I probably would not try to take someone down on the street. My point is that it takes a "desire" to train that many hours with, let's face it, another dude. A good comparison is that WWE does not appeal to me. It's, well, a tad gay for me. If I have to explain it any further than it becomes a matter of taste and I respectfully agree to disagree
@owlandtree Ok then, this is a case where beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When you make such statements as "this martial art is for gays and this one is to defend against rapists", it makes you sound very ignorant and dismissive of something you don't fully understand. To characterize an entire martial discipline in such a fashion shows poor understanding on your part. No martial art discipline, sport or hobby can define one's sexual orientation. Only the individual does. Just my 2 cents.
Tbh the closest martial art to actual street fighting is Muay Thai, normal boxing can be really good, but if you've ever seen a proper street fight, then you know, Muay Thai you can literally use any part of your body, not criticising it, as it takes a lot of skill, but it is pretty brutal fighting :)
BJJ sucks It's so commercial,competition oriented & aggressively marketed. Ain't no martial art. I'd never do BJJ, it's full of tossers, i've seen classes and it's full of macho posturing homo's looking for an excuse to rub up against each other!!
By the way the music is just as shit as the style.
By the way MMA is shit aswell. Someone's got to tell u!
@yukiism I do Trad 'Real' Ju Jitsu Brown Belt. The Brazilians did not invent grappling and do not have a special hold on the grappling world. They have a style, a good style that is cheapened when they claim it to be more than it is. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu techniques are neither Brazilian nor Jiu Jitsu. They are a stylized form of Japanese Judo, and they may be highly effective under the rules of a competitive format designed for it, but it is NOT a reliable form of self-defense in a street attack!
@mrdubcrazy the reason it's called brazilian jiujitsu is because kano still considered the kodokan a school of japanese jujutsu at the time maeda trained carlos. if you track the evolution of judo and bjj, you'll find that bjj continues to practice old moves that have since been trimmed from the judo curriculum, making bjj a distinct sport in its own right. as for the contention that it is not a reliable form of street self-defense, well, that's exactly what the gracies used it for.
as for the rules of competition stifling the toolset of a traditional japanese jiujitsu practitioner, the entire gamut of standing locks you practice is legal in mma. yet i have yet to see someone fall victim to one in a professional bout. what other traditional jujutsu moves are you complaining about not being competition legal?
Look mate, in the ring u don't fear for your life like you do in the street, so anything goes, however, if someone grabs you, you can apply a wristlock armlock etc to incapacitate them. If someone comes at u with a knife and you've nowhere to run you can't kick and punch you have to control the knife arm...locks do that. Derrr. I don't care about the ring, it's just a bunch of macho twats trying to boost their ego or bank account. i'm not down with the whole BJJ or MMA ethos. Keep It!
so you're saying that you have the ability to wristlock someone in a high-pressure, high-danger situation, but in a sanctioned unified rules bout you somehow can't? that makes no sense at all. as for some bjj and mma "ethos," there exists no such thing. mma as a professional sport has its fair share of bad attitudes, sure, but there are plenty of level-headed and well-mannered fighters as well, cf. jon jones, GSP, machida, etc. when it comes to bjj, you're even farther from the truth
Why is there always someone on the internet who always has something negative to say? Most of us know how DEEP BJJ is...but this is just a highlight video, how much of BJJ's spirit can you capture on a youtube video? The title is just fine considering the fact that if some1 types BJJ on a youtube search, this is what they will find.
@steeeeker off the back, yes I'd say BJJ is king. Takedowns straight into submissions I would give to Judo & Sambo. Both are excellent in submissions but in both Judo & Sambo submissions must be done fast to relate to real life fights. I like BJJ guys but for some reason I cannot say that BJJ guys are the fastest submission artists. Judo and Sambo guys are much faster (because you're given only a certain amount of time on the ground to mimic real life threats).
@steeeeker It's not the style that matters. It's the person behind the style. I've seen a blue belt judoka submit blue, purple and brown belt BJJ guys. I've also seen 3 year Sambo guys submit and takedown brown belt and black belt BJJ guys AND I've also seen blue belt BJJ guys submit black belt Judokas. So it's not the art, it's the person behind it.
@mrdubcrazy if you think its gay you're gay yourself theyre not fucking each other in the ass are they. it's a sport just like you said . why does it have to be gay ? because you said so? shut the fuck up .
OK, lets all get something straight! It is obvious to everyone that it is not a good idea to fight on the ground when there are dangerous obstacles that would do harm to you if you were to fight on the ground, If your opponent has friends that could jump in and attack you at any moment, or If all you know is sportive Jiu-Jitsu (unless, in my opinion, the opponent doesn't have any weapons; if he doesnt have any weapons then I think sportive jiu jitsu could still be very effective).
They call BJJ the ultimate street fighting martial art, I say in a street fight where there could be sharp objects with the flour made of concrete, you don't wanna try to climb onto someone hoping to get an armbar without breaking your ribs or having a piece of glass going through ur back when your opponent is probably strong enough to slam u against the floor or a sharp object.
@Voodoofreak35 It doesn't matter. 98% of street fights end up on the ground (real statistic). How will they slam you on the ground after you broke their arm/choked them out/dislocated entire arm? Think about it.
@sightf2 98% of street fights end up on the ground? Where the fuck do you get your statistics from? lol
Dude, you are not seriously telling me somebody actually did a "field research" on streetfights alright, namely, some fight sociologists go out and observe the outcomes of more than 180 streetfights before they come up with the stats
@sightf2 In a street fight, you don't want to go to the ground, that's why Karate or Kung Fu or Muay Thai is still so much more popular than BJJ when it comes to striking. People strike and hit in real life, they don't climb onto you and try to do an arm lock. That's BJJ fun but not realistic.
Fact: The special forces and the military do not learn BJJ, they learn Karate, TaeKwonDo or Kung Fu. And yes they do teach take-downs, not competition BJJ where you are always rolling on the ground.
@Voodoofreak35 yes indeed I agree 1000 % with you ... sport ground fighting is not for the street... But I feel you are to focused in Asian martial arts... Every nation has martial arts , not only the Asians .. For example same Western Martial Arts are Savate(de Rue), Kampfringen, Boxing (bare nuckle) , Catch as Catch can Wrestling , Glima , Runa Glima ,
@Voodoofreak35 Bjj is very realistic... If all people do is strike in "real life", then how do you think the outcome will be if one of those strikers were to be face to face with a bjj practitioner? It is definite that the bjj practitioner would win unless the striker is like 20 times bigger. If the striker has a weapon, then sportive jiu jitsu would not be effective at all. Combative jiu jitsu, however, would be perfect for self defense against weapons.
@yobrotha12 Don't think grapling is superior to striking . Both are needed to complete the fighting art... Striking is very useful... With striking weight, size and strength is not important. You can be 100 kg more than me , but if I hit you in sensitive areas you are fucked( as example... foot, shin, knee, genital area , diafraghma, ribs, face, halse back area of the head).... In grappling size is much more important than in striking...
@megasayajinsongoku99 If you are an experienced grappler and your opponent is not, then it would be much easier to control and dominate him. By experienced i mean being able to effectively use his own strength and size against him. In striking, if your attacker is bigger than you, he has an advantage. In grappling, if the opponent is bigger than you, you will at least have a better chance of surviving.
@megasayajinsongoku99 Now I'm not necessarily saying that grappling is superior over striking no matter what; I'm just saying that in some cases and probably in most, grappling is a better decision.
@Voodoofreak35 And technically the special forces, army, navy seals, and marines are taught bjj since most takedowns are based on bjj techniques. various chokes and locks also come with their training.
@yobrotha12 The US special forces train so far I know marine martial arts who is a mix from many styles of the world evolved for practicality...
If they train in BJJ , than they are ignorants... I don't see the logic .... How great is the chanche in modern warfare to fight only 1vs1 in the ground without weapons and knifes ???
Do you know Defendu ??? Defendu has no ground fighting.
If you fall in the ground you need not training, you need only need the ''hit who ever you can'' tactik ..
@megasayajinsongoku99 Srry if i wasnt clear on the US forces training. I didnt mean that the only thing they train in is bjj. you are right they are taught a mixture of martial arts, but grappling techniques are a vital part to their hand to hand combat training. They are taught a variety of takedowns, chokes, and locks based on BJJ.
@megasayajinsongoku99 Now the amount of training you are in and the number of techniques you are taught depends on what branch of the military you are in. For example: The navy gets far more training in hand to hand combat than the army or air force. But my main point is that BJJ is incorporated into military hand to hand combat training.
@yobrotha12 Only elite-soldiers need hand to hand combat...
Hand to hand combat is more useful in police units , civilians or in spionage agencies (who may be in enemy field without weapons).
Much important than to speak about the striking-grappling bullshits is to know how work violence and how you can avoid it.... Is much more important than hand to hand combat itself :-)....
@yobrotha12 thats correct. BJJ is taught to the military because soldiers kneed to be taught somthing that is effective and can be quickly learnt cos h2h training is very short. to teach a soldier to effectivly strike takes alot of time and practice. but a soldier can be taught to take a man down, and control him for long enough to drawn a side arm or choke them in hardly anytime at all.
@tyebo87 No bjj is taught to the military only as muscular ,endurance training and for have a will to fight in all areas ..... I don't think BJJ as trained today has a purpose in selfdefense, and it has definitaly not a puropose in warfare .... lol
@megasayajinsongoku99 it takes along time to learn how to strike effectivly and reliably. a soldier can be taught to take a man down and control him using bjj long enough to draw a side arm or to choke him to death in a short period of time. thats why the russian army is taught sambo, the americans bjj. basic effective grappling can be taught extremly quickly.
@tyebo87 You are again wrong... Striking is very easy, it can be taught very fast and it is very effective against all types of opponents .. In grapling is strength very important..... If you make grapling you lose the point of striking ..... Striking is true fighting,
If you try to get on the ground to controll than you are dead ... lol are you joking me ??? If I throw my opponent , than I will kick him on the face , or I will jump at him...
@megasayajinsongoku99 well, I do agree that if you throw someone using Judo or Sambo, chances are the fight is over then (effective throw) but you know what they say: 100% of the fights start on the ground and 80% end up. So if you end up on the ground, your grappling skills learned in Judo or Sambo or BJJ will help you avoid punches, strikes, etc by controlling or submitting your opponent.
@tyebo87 Combat Sambo for the military has nothing to do with the sport Sambo ...
If one throw me on the ground and than comes to controll me on the ground , than I will attack his eyes, his groins, ears , nose or other vulnerable areas..
Sport ground tactics has nothing to do with real ground fighting .....
look at all pure selfdefense systems .. Defendu ,ww2 combatives , Krav Maga , Guided Chaos , did you think all those are fools who say that striking is the king of true fighting ????
@megasayajinsongoku99 no no no i dont think you understand the whole concept of Bjj. The reason why it was made is so a smaller WEAKER opponent can control and dominate a bigger STRONGER opponent. Bjj is not about strength it is about technique. there is no reason why a trained Bjj practitioner could not prevail in a hand to hand fight with an unskilled opponent there is absolutely no way. whether it is sportive or combative there is no way.
@yobrotha12 all arts are made for the same reason :-) ... look BJJ as it trained today in the most places is basically a sport and has only small purpose in selfdefense ....
Generally ground game is not for selfdefense because it is not good against multiple opponents.. Beside of them if the other strikes , bite and eyegouging than its very difficlut to wrestle ....
@pcjudosambo well, that's not exactly true... Japanese jiu jitsu was modified by the gracie family to be more effective in self defense and sportive competition. there really was no such thing as brazilian jiu jitsu until the gracie family modified it themselves. So in a way, BJJ was "made" by the gracies.
@yobrotha12 well, based on history of martial arts, Japanese JiuJitsu (aka Jujutsu) was the samuari martial art that involved striking, kicking, weapons training, grappling, chokes, arm locks, etc. Kano took his knowledge of Japanese JJ and developed Judo, which is a modified version of Japanese JiuJitsu. He took ALL of the best parts from Jujutsu and created Judo. Then Gracies took Judo and created BJJ by modifying Judo (not Japanese JJ).
Of course Maeda was a Jodoka, but he also praticed Jiu Jitsu.
If not, why would he personal call it Jiu Jitsu? Why didn't he correct the Gracies to call it Judo? According to Helio Gracie Maeda taught them Japanese Jiu Jitsu. Why people insist in correcting the Grand Master?
Judo and BJJ are very similar, but Judo was made as a sport, and maybe the best sport in the world imho, GJJ (BJJ) was meant always for a real fight, no rules, no time limits, no weight classes.
@firulaisjj You're incorrect. In the book "The Cannon of Judo" and Gracies have stated that the reason it was called Jiu-Jitsu is because back then Kano's system was not called Judo, it was called Kano Jiu-Jitsu and Maeda was a Kodokan member and was sent to Brazil to spread "Kodokan Jiu-Jitsu" as it was called back then. Brazil never "updated" the name and did not stick to the Kodokan rules (less ne-waza) and that's why it is called Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Meada taught Gracies Kodokan Judo not JJJ
So but that time it was called Jiu Jitsu, we both agree on that, Helio never updated the name because he was never interested in a sport. And although I haven't the book you mentioned I have spent some time with Helio, his sons and direct students.
What Helio and the Gracies did was different from Kano's idea, it was oriented to a real life situation. And that was the reason they didn't follow the Kodokan.
If the Masters such as Carlos and Helio Gracie called it Jiu Jitsu, it is good enough.
They didn't belong to the sport of Judo, although Helio himself would recommend Judo if you want a sport.
They called it as they were taught to do it, Jiu Jitsu, they defended it by putting it to test and they have changed the Martial Arts world. Gracie Jiu Jitsu deserves its name and should be respected.
@firulaisjj Gracies can call it anything they like. BJJ is a sport and a self-defense system (if it wasn't a sport, there would be no BJJ competitions). Judo is a sport and a self-defense system (Judo has been part of many armies of the world, South Korea, Japan, Europe, South America). Judo and BJJ/GJJ share 98% of the techniques, so how can they be different? Chokes, ground game, throws, sweeps, position control, all shared in Judo and BJJ. They are the same just with different teaching style
BJJ is a sport, but if you search you will find that Helio Gracie put himself apart of the sportive aspect of Jiu Jitsu, and believe or not 95% of BJJ ignore the self defense system of Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
As I say before Judo is an amazing sport, I train it a lot because I like it, but 100% of the Judokas I met had the bad habits of the rules, they give their back easily, go explosive due to the 5 min rounds, rely a lot on power and conditioning instead of technique.
although the techniques are basically the same, Judo doesn't train leg locks, and in all my years of Judo I never saw an instructor teaching defense from the bottom facing your opponents (before you blame my instructors let me tell you they are amazing, world class level). GJJ first aspect is defense, that is the huge difference with Judo. As well as the average Judoka black belt would throw anybody, the average GJJ black belt would survive and maybe finish anybody.
@firulaisjj Listen, you seem like a nice person but please stop saying wrong things. Historically, you're wrong on everything. Gracies were responsible for MMA, which is a SPORT & self-defense method. Gracies created International BJJ Federation, which "was created by Master Carlos Gracie Jr. to officially represent the sport of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu around the world" this is taken directly from their web site. BJJ is a sport, deal with it. Now to self-defense & leg locks ... read next post.......
as I stated, Helio Gracie didn't support the BJJ sport on his late years, because he noticed BJJ guys were making same technical mistakes than Judokas and wrestlers by giving their back and using techniques that wouldn't work in a real fight.
again Gracie Jiu Jitsu was made as self defense system purely, not as a sport, if you don't believe me just research Helio's comments about it.
When Helio lost to Kimura , he already choked out Kato, and later Kimura lost to Valdemar Santana.
@firulaisjj I respect BJJ guys but just like there's BJJ sport there's also BJJ self-defense. Same with Judo. There's Judo as a sport & there's self-defense. It all varies from dojo to dojo. My nephew practices Judo & Sambo & leg locks are definitely covered, so is MMA and defense against multiple attackers, etc. Secondly, this entire debate is about to be ended by a nice video of Royce Gracie stating that there's NO difference between GJJ and BJJ in terms of techniques:
@firulaisjj Don't forger, the founder of BJJ was submitted by a Kodokan Judoka (named Kimura) by Ude-Garami (shoulder lock), which resulted in a broken shoulder. Secondly, Judo has no leg locks???? Are you out of your mind? Visit judoinfo . com / leglocks . htm (of course without the spaces).
Then view this video of a Judoka performing leg locks:
watch?v=QJ0v2rXdBaY
If you want to see a Kodokan technique manual, go to their site, legs locks are there. So please do research before stating stuff
we all know the Kimura story, and we all respect it. Even Helio, although he never broke Helio's arm, Kimura said that, but Helio always denied it. Helio was extremely flexible he could touch his ears with the arm in that position, Helio admitted he passed out though during that combat.
Today in Judo sport leg locks are forbidden, the average Judoka ignores leg locks, although it was part of the program, that's the disadvantage of a sport with many rules.
@normalnamesplz and took the best out ... he avoided grappling techniques like small joint manipulation, etc. If you look at the first ever Kodokan Jiu-Jiutsu aka Kodokan Judo handbook, the original techniques had no small joint manipulation and Aikido style grappling techniques. All of these Aikido style grappling techniques were added to the Kodokan in 1950's-1960's.
@pcjudosambo PLEASE Tell me people...does BJJ ever stand up and fight?.
What is this thing about going to the floor? DO NOT TELL ME THAT FIGHTS END UP ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING BJJ IS VERY WEAK AGAINT TWO OR MORE ATTACKERS. WHAT WOULD BRAZILIAN JIU JITSU DO AGAINTS TWO ATTACKERS ON THE FLOOR? YES YOU GUEST IT!!!!!!!!!
@pcjudosambo yeah your correct that maeda's idea was to promote judo, he went to south america due to north america at that time, had a bad opinion of the japanese, and they went their before and maeda beat a wrestler, but he couldnt accept it, and had a fight with maeda's capanion and he was deafeated so it was a failure north, maeda taught the gracies for about 2 years but stressed his techniqes were JJJ with some judo, which the gracies manipulated and changed to BJJ etc etc etc...
@megasayajinsongoku99 well Sport Sambo is part of Combat Sambo and Sport Sambo can and IS used as a style of self-defense. It's not a complete art because it forbids many of the techniques allowed in Judo or BJJ (e.g. chokes). Even Combat Sambo tournaments are not a true depiction of what Russian Special Forces learn. Their Sambo is different because they practice lethal techniques that cannot be practiced in Combat Sambo tourneys. But Combat Sambo as a whole is a very effective art.
@megasayajinsongoku99 with striking, size, weight, and strength definitely matter. The bigger and stronger you are, the more damage you can do. If you can do any damage to someone who weighs 100k more than you even by hitting sensitive areas, he can do far greater damage to you AND he can also hit YOUR sensitive areas as well. Also, he has a better chance of knocking you out.
@yobrotha12 sorry but I think you mean adifferent striking game that I mean.... The difference in damage is not very important... Imagine is their a big difference if one hit you in the genital area ??? It dosn't matter if he is 60 or 120 kg... Imagine a strike in the shin, knee, foot, ribs , halse, eyes,nose,ear,spine or the back area of the head.... Speed is very important too.....
@yobrotha12 the elbows , the knees , the head are very hard ... Even a small girl can lacterate you face with a elwow strike or destroy you back area of the head with a ''edge of the hand'' blow ....
I train myself in ju jitzu... I am relative muscular and I have a great advantage in wrestling/grappling.... Muscular Strength and Size is much more important in grappling than in striking.... In striking is speed, accuratation and timing much more important than brute strength....
@yobrotha12 Wrestling/Grappling is like weightlifting........... Striking is more like shot put..... you don't know sure if the joint-lock techniques of marine martial art are from BJJ, JJ , Catch Wrestling, Kung fu or any other martial art.... If they are same JJ technicques , than evolved for practicality and not sport ground fighting...
The modern warfare has a very little purpose for hand to hand combat...
@megasayajinsongoku99 hand to hand combat is still key for modern warfare. most conflicts now are fought at close quaters in urban locations like the gaza strip, iraq and afganistan. armies no longer line up on battle feilds. in afganistan and iraq at the moment peace keeping and patrols mean that no lethal metods of restraining civilians or suspected terrorists means that hand to hand combat is needed.
@tyebo87 No, in my opinion are you wrong .... I think you live in the phantasy world of sport ground game..
First in modern warfare I will use my weapon , not my fists and I will definitaly not wrestle with the enemy.... Did you think a weapon is not useful in close combat?? The martial arts of the future are the weapons ....
@megasayajinsongoku99 U know wut im just gonna tell you my main point right now. Gracie jiu jitsu has a number of techniques very useful in self defense situations. You dont have to use any chokes or locks if you dont want to. They teach a number of gun and knife defenses as well as escapes from certain positions that you could get caught in in a real life situation which can definitely become very useful in self defense. If you dont agree to that then i dont know what to tell you.
your all on about street fighting and how shit goes down, half of you probs havent even had a street fight in your life so how the fuck do you know how it works? not saying i have because i havent but you all go on about and you probs dont know shit.
some people say ohh ground fighting isnt for real life but yet most of the fights i have been in i have taken it to the ground and won because the other person didnt know what to do and his friends wer their but thats just me
This is an armbar highlight with occasional triangles and kneebars, so call it an armbar highlight. While they are great, there is so much more to BJJ than these few submissions. To call the video "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu" you need to represent the other aspects of the art.
The standing man has the advandage against a man on the ground, despite of this in selfdefense its is better to make the throw and than immediately to kick the opponent or jump against him. Ground fighting as in Wrestling or MMA for example is very dangerous in selfdefense, because you are only against one opponennt, because maybe he has friends or a knife.
cqkinser if you are in real selfdefense you can not fight with the opponent in the ground. Are you serious?? If you are on top the other guy can hit you easily in the genital area!!!! Maybe the other dude has a knife, maybe he has friends near....
@megasayajinsongoku99 There's training for all this, two cannot fight standing if one doesn't want, you can always grab him to the ground, or just knock him down and look around or run.
@hansnery believe me no training exist for survive in the ground against a knife or groundfighting against more than one opponent. Groundfighting is for the sporting duell ,not for the true world.
@megasayajinsongoku99 ya it is because you can disarm then and you learn takedowns in BJJ and trust me i do BJJ and ground fighting happens a lot ain real life
@jjrickroller in the real world the ground is the last place you would be , because the most streetfights are between many opponents and not 1vs1 duells.... What if the enemy has a knife in the ground???? Sport groundfighting is useless in the true world.....
@megasayajinsongoku99 What if the enemy has a knife? You do realize that BJJ teaches you disarming skills.. Just saying. And alot of streetfights are between 1 vs 1. this isnt the outsiders or some movie where entire gangs are fighting everyday in all out war. Fights do end up on the ground, ALOT, it just tends to happen.
@Betterthanjimmy many arts have disarming skills.... But you can not disarme in the ground...... Only few (true!) streetfights are 1vs1 .... Fights end not always in the ground and if they end in the ground than real ground survival techniques are different than sporting technicques.... Show for example Krav Maga ground fighting and Glima (Lausatouk style) Ground fight.... the objektive is to stand immediately in your feets and not to make joint-locks in the ground...
@megasayajinsongoku99 Well if u are skilled and dominant on the ground its actually very easy to control your opponents arms. I personally think its better to be able to control your opponents arms than just trying to dodge slashes to the body and hope u dont get stabbed or cut. Also, Krav maga took their ground fighting techniques from jiu jitsu so if u knew jiu jitsu u could still easily find ur way up on ur feet if u wanted to plus u would be dominant and know how to submit on the ground.
@yobrotha12 how to submit on the ground??? If you try to ''submit'' in the ground in a real fight than you are dead..... The aid is to be immediately in your feets like in Lausatoek Glima (Icelandic martial art) or like in Krav Maga ( Israeli close combat system) ....
Krav Maga is not from ju jitzu..... Krav Maga is a mix from many western and asian combat styles addapted to maximal practicality...
@megasayajinsongoku99 well obviously u wouldnt want to "submit" someone on the ground if it was a street fight. you would probably choke them out or break one of their limbs to leave them incapacitated. And yes ground fighting krav maga is based on brazilian jiu jitsu. There are different types of bjj just so u know. There is bjj primarily made for competition and sport and there is combative bjj for self defense which includes disarming and striking techniques. for example: gracie jiu jitsu
@yobrotha12 No you are wrong. Krav Maga ground fighting is not based in brasilian ju jitzu. Krav Maga has as base many arts. BJJ is a ''copy'' from japanese ju jitzu . I don't know about gracie ju jitzu . I speak about the sporting ju jitzu competition and say that this is not for the real fight.....
You can not fight in the ground if the other guy has a knife or is more stronger than you or if he has friends ......
@yobrotha12 in a real fight they are no rules. The other guy can bite or hit in the genital area..... The most of the sporting ju jitzu is based that the other guy respect the rules and don't bite or hit in the genital area... In a streetfight they are not rules, you can not grapple like in the gym .....
@megasayajinsongoku99 why do u keep saying that? Krav maga GROUND FIGHTING/DEFENSE is based on jiu jitsu. I think there is some judo in there too but there is deffinitely jiu jitsu. Bjj is actualy japanese ju jitsu altered to be more useful and advantageous to smaller fighters. sporting jiu jitsu will be less affective than combative/gracie jiu jitsu in a real fight, but even if you only knew sporting jiu jitsu, you could still incorporate that no rule concept and still dominate your attacker.
@megasayajinsongoku99 True you cant expect to win a street fight if ur attacker's friends jump you, but i doubt anyone trained in krav maga can fend off let alone dominate multiple attackers at once. As for strength of your attacker, Bjj was made so a smaller, weaker person can control and dominate a stronger, bigger opponent. Its also true that u might not be able to fend off someone with a knife with only knowledge of sportive bjj, but with combative jiu jitsu there is no doubt u can dominate.
Band: Apocalipse 16, song: Apaga Mas Não Bate.
thiagosrl 1 month ago
song name ?
ISRTurk 2 months ago
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@ISRTurk Band: Apocalipse 16, song: Apaga Mas Não Bate.
thiagosrl 1 month ago
the song's name ?
88sorcio 2 months ago
@88sorcio apaga mais nao bate
misterwrongful 2 months ago
Lots of Respect to all BJJ practitioners! train in BJJ and Japanese Jujutsu, and they are both great, they complement each other perfectly!
devildog7494 2 months ago
This video is just so fuckin' perfect/amazing
zboom19 2 months ago
why do they call it BRAZILLIAN jiu jitsu? it was invented by a japanese guy who moved to brazil and taught it to brazillians. thay doesnt make it brazillian.
last1000 6 months ago
@last1000 It's because maeda carried on his quest in promoting Judo, around the world after teaching the gracies for about 2 years then, the gracies were left to change and create new techniques etc,
B3nBo1194 6 months ago
@last1000 from judo gracies create a new martial art brazilian jiu jitsu its not japanese ¬¬
lyoncd 4 months ago
@lyoncd A lot of the individual moves were learnt from maeda by the gracies. I'm certain they didn't "invent" the armbar or the guard.
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pacmanfrog4724 6 months ago
To be continueD*
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whiteman2371 7 months ago
the first two submissions are nam phan FTW!!
LuchadorSacapuntas 7 months ago
so is this all about wrapping your legs around someone else?
DrlchknJr 7 months ago
@DrlchknJr yeah, pretty homo eh, lol
daaskapital1 7 months ago
@DrlchknJr they're submissions and they hurt like hell
andyalin 7 months ago
@DrlchknJr no the difference is that if you get hit in the face you will get bruising which will go away in a week, in BJJ, you get your leg broken, knee dislocated, arm broken, shoulder dislocated, elbow dislocated or snapped, that can cripple you for a lifetime, so not it's not just wrapping around it's more dangerous.
B3nBo1194 7 months ago
this should be called Arm Bar not brasilian jiu jitsu its one move over and over
OMGlo0lz 8 months ago
@OMGlo0lz An armbar is a basic submission move and it's extremly effective thus it's widely use you ignorant cunt
joseph18dx 6 months ago
@OMGlo0lz Because it is an extremely effective move which you can create an opportunity from nearly all positions, as the rule of thumb when it comes to armbars, TAP or SNAP.
B3nBo1194 6 months ago
the song is fucking gangster
ordaboy 8 months ago
would many of these moves work in mma? surely you could punch your ways out of most of these moves? or is it too painful or something?
TheTomWIlliams 8 months ago
@TheTomWIlliams look up ufc submission highlights. you tell me if they work
deathtopopstars 8 months ago
@TheTomWIlliams punch your way out??? sorry man but you got about 3 seconds before complete blackout if caught in a choke and even less before a snapped arm or destroyed knee tendon if caught in a lock. theres really no bullshit behind the expression "tap or snap"
ordaboy 8 months ago
@TheTomWIlliams unless you would like to break your own arm, naturally your body puts itself in a protective position to prevent injury which doesn't work because of course its leverage which the body can not stop if you go to twist your body while the load is still on your elbow then your just manipulating your elbow worse, its tap or snap.
B3nBo1194 8 months ago
@TheTomWIlliams once any kind of those locks are completely done, you better not try to resist unless yo have the strenght to make a super WWE bomb an KO the submiter, because the injuries of those locks are really bad
mok0s1 7 months ago
@mommafatwolf because your a shit cunt
WannaPunchOn1 9 months ago
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MegaHeatwave 9 months ago
This is really cool! I've just started in Jiujitsu and I love it! We've not covered anything as amazing as this...
mommafatwolf 9 months ago
El jiujitsu brasileño es tan técnico y bueno por dos razones: la primera es que fue perfeccionada "en la cancha" es decir; Maeda quien les enseñó jiujitsu a los Gracie y los mismos Gracies que lucharon cientos de peleas contra personas que tenían diferentes estilos; la segunda es que Helio Gracie la transformó en un arte que puede ser aprendida por cualquiera, para derrotar a cualquiera independientemente del tamaño tuyo o del contrincante.
rbrtdornel 9 months ago
A(￣ω￣)Zy~~~7☆I have played jiu jitse when I was a kid.
I feel difference to Bjj,I feel near wrestling than jiu jitse.
Because there isn't standing fight scene.
az7stars 11 months ago
Lots of comments on the joke I made. The proof is in the training: Hours/Days/Years rolling around with sweaty men. Why not spend all that time rolling around with women? They make their CAREERS revolve around rolling around with other sweaty men, the goal: to DOMINATE the other sweaty man. Who has the "gay tendencies"? A lot of comments on a topic I made a joke about. No prob. with gays here, just not my style. Sorry to offend your sexual preference. Who cares what I think anyway, right?
owlandtree 1 year ago
i call this the gentleman sport.
because of the nice technick you gotta have to win.
Junaamhier 1 year ago
I have no desire to roll around on the ground with another half-naked man for hours at a time, day in and day out, just to win a trophy and brag. I would rather get REALLY good at kicking someone's nuts from under them then take a fight to a street curb. Kiss already! Or is it a rape/domination thing. Hours/Days/Years rolling around with sweaty men. Undeniably great defense technique against rapists. Too much time with dudes on the floor. Like wrestling. Not really for me.
owlandtree 1 year ago
@owlandtree You know, there is clinching and hugging in just about every martial art discipline, especially boxing. That is just the time a great grappler would need to put you to sleep with ease. But then again, why waste time doing that, to prove some Random YouTube guy wrong? Nah!!!
kanguesso 1 year ago
@kanguesso: That is why grappling is not my thing. There are defensive moves in FMA and Aikido that should do. I am not a career prize fighter and I probably would not try to take someone down on the street. My point is that it takes a "desire" to train that many hours with, let's face it, another dude. A good comparison is that WWE does not appeal to me. It's, well, a tad gay for me. If I have to explain it any further than it becomes a matter of taste and I respectfully agree to disagree
owlandtree 1 year ago
@owlandtree Ok then, this is a case where beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When you make such statements as "this martial art is for gays and this one is to defend against rapists", it makes you sound very ignorant and dismissive of something you don't fully understand. To characterize an entire martial discipline in such a fashion shows poor understanding on your part. No martial art discipline, sport or hobby can define one's sexual orientation. Only the individual does. Just my 2 cents.
kanguesso 1 year ago
@owlandtree "That is why grappling is not my thing. There are defensive moves in FMA and Aikido that should do"
No. Those defensive moves won't do.
"I am not a career prize fighter and I probably would not try to take someone down on the street."
This won't keep the fight from going to the ground.
"My point is that it takes a "desire" to train that many hours with, let's face it, another dude"
Are you also afraid to play other contact sports where you might have to come in contact with men?
Ljenkins9000 1 year ago
@owlandtree Only someone who harbors homosexual tendencies interprets something that has nothing to do with sexuality into it being "gay".
laylalaylady 1 year ago
bjj sucks!
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
Tbh the closest martial art to actual street fighting is Muay Thai, normal boxing can be really good, but if you've ever seen a proper street fight, then you know, Muay Thai you can literally use any part of your body, not criticising it, as it takes a lot of skill, but it is pretty brutal fighting :)
markydaws777 1 year ago
Thats Pedro Elias at 1:03 from caique jiu jitsu guys a beast
josk84life 1 year ago
Brazilian jiu jitsu is the best I think. Nobody can win against it.
mrmichael20 1 year ago 2
what is the name of dis song
crim306 1 year ago
What I want to understand is how jiu jiisu is now brazilian jiu jitsu as if Brazil has a fucking patent on it and shit
greenbay357 1 year ago
@steeeeker Ur talking about competition.....not real self defense. BJJ is a sport!
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
BJJ sucks It's so commercial,competition oriented & aggressively marketed. Ain't no martial art. I'd never do BJJ, it's full of tossers, i've seen classes and it's full of macho posturing homo's looking for an excuse to rub up against each other!!
By the way the music is just as shit as the style.
By the way MMA is shit aswell. Someone's got to tell u!
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
@mrdubcrazy you're probably gay lol
TampaFlorida813 1 year ago
@TampaFlorida813 Why, u hoping for a yes? Sorry to disappoint u.
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
@mrdubcrazy let me guess, you train wing chun in a strip mall with a 300-lb balding white dude who claims to be a 20th-degree grandmaster
yukiism 1 year ago
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mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
@yukiism I do Trad 'Real' Ju Jitsu Brown Belt. The Brazilians did not invent grappling and do not have a special hold on the grappling world. They have a style, a good style that is cheapened when they claim it to be more than it is. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu techniques are neither Brazilian nor Jiu Jitsu. They are a stylized form of Japanese Judo, and they may be highly effective under the rules of a competitive format designed for it, but it is NOT a reliable form of self-defense in a street attack!
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
@mrdubcrazy the reason it's called brazilian jiujitsu is because kano still considered the kodokan a school of japanese jujutsu at the time maeda trained carlos. if you track the evolution of judo and bjj, you'll find that bjj continues to practice old moves that have since been trimmed from the judo curriculum, making bjj a distinct sport in its own right. as for the contention that it is not a reliable form of street self-defense, well, that's exactly what the gracies used it for.
yukiism 1 year ago
@mrdubcrazy
as for the rules of competition stifling the toolset of a traditional japanese jiujitsu practitioner, the entire gamut of standing locks you practice is legal in mma. yet i have yet to see someone fall victim to one in a professional bout. what other traditional jujutsu moves are you complaining about not being competition legal?
yukiism 1 year ago
Look mate, in the ring u don't fear for your life like you do in the street, so anything goes, however, if someone grabs you, you can apply a wristlock armlock etc to incapacitate them. If someone comes at u with a knife and you've nowhere to run you can't kick and punch you have to control the knife arm...locks do that. Derrr. I don't care about the ring, it's just a bunch of macho twats trying to boost their ego or bank account. i'm not down with the whole BJJ or MMA ethos. Keep It!
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
@mrdubcrazy
so you're saying that you have the ability to wristlock someone in a high-pressure, high-danger situation, but in a sanctioned unified rules bout you somehow can't? that makes no sense at all. as for some bjj and mma "ethos," there exists no such thing. mma as a professional sport has its fair share of bad attitudes, sure, but there are plenty of level-headed and well-mannered fighters as well, cf. jon jones, GSP, machida, etc. when it comes to bjj, you're even farther from the truth
yukiism 1 year ago
@yukiism Soooo True
MarkMarianiTRX 1 year ago
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@yukiism Sooo true
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BJJSeba 1 year ago
Cool song, whats the name?
Fryeza 1 year ago
@Fryeza
Artist: Pregador Luo
Song name: Apaga mas não bate
molinofc 1 year ago 26
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@getthetapjj
Why is there always someone on the internet who always has something negative to say? Most of us know how DEEP BJJ is...but this is just a highlight video, how much of BJJ's spirit can you capture on a youtube video? The title is just fine considering the fact that if some1 types BJJ on a youtube search, this is what they will find.
dimi887 1 year ago
@steeeeker off the back, yes I'd say BJJ is king. Takedowns straight into submissions I would give to Judo & Sambo. Both are excellent in submissions but in both Judo & Sambo submissions must be done fast to relate to real life fights. I like BJJ guys but for some reason I cannot say that BJJ guys are the fastest submission artists. Judo and Sambo guys are much faster (because you're given only a certain amount of time on the ground to mimic real life threats).
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@steeeeker It's not the style that matters. It's the person behind the style. I've seen a blue belt judoka submit blue, purple and brown belt BJJ guys. I've also seen 3 year Sambo guys submit and takedown brown belt and black belt BJJ guys AND I've also seen blue belt BJJ guys submit black belt Judokas. So it's not the art, it's the person behind it.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
nice one
fAmicOm1337 1 year ago
Trilha sonora doida.... kkkkkkkkk sacanagem.. misturaram funk, hip-hop, tecno pratos Japoneses... soh faltou uma mina no vocal fazendo soprano...
yurixgladius 1 year ago
Anyone knows the name of the song?Anyone??
LionHead914 1 year ago
So Cool clip!!! do u guys know what is the name of the soundtrack??? Nice one!!!
LionHead914 1 year ago
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whats the song??
ayakuzaa 1 year ago
So many comments, so many idiots...
InnocentyInsane 1 year ago
@InnocentyInsane People that don't have an opinion themselves and criticize others' opinions are the idiot's.
mrdubcrazy 1 year ago
@mrdubcrazy if you think its gay you're gay yourself theyre not fucking each other in the ass are they. it's a sport just like you said . why does it have to be gay ? because you said so? shut the fuck up .
TampaFlorida813 1 year ago
i see quite a few Cassio Werneck and Gracie academy patches
ordaboy 1 year ago
OK, lets all get something straight! It is obvious to everyone that it is not a good idea to fight on the ground when there are dangerous obstacles that would do harm to you if you were to fight on the ground, If your opponent has friends that could jump in and attack you at any moment, or If all you know is sportive Jiu-Jitsu (unless, in my opinion, the opponent doesn't have any weapons; if he doesnt have any weapons then I think sportive jiu jitsu could still be very effective).
yobrotha12 1 year ago
Well, all fights that I've seen have all ended up on the ground.
Not that I have seen a shit load of fights, just a couple.
SergeantUcarn 1 year ago
talk about gay
zenokro 1 year ago
Ficou muito bom o vídeo com a música do Pregador Luo!
É isso aí, jiu-jitsu é disciplina e principalmente inteligência.
dfagundes10 1 year ago
They call BJJ the ultimate street fighting martial art, I say in a street fight where there could be sharp objects with the flour made of concrete, you don't wanna try to climb onto someone hoping to get an armbar without breaking your ribs or having a piece of glass going through ur back when your opponent is probably strong enough to slam u against the floor or a sharp object.
Voodoofreak35 1 year ago
@Voodoofreak35 It doesn't matter. 98% of street fights end up on the ground (real statistic). How will they slam you on the ground after you broke their arm/choked them out/dislocated entire arm? Think about it.
sightf2 1 year ago
@sightf2 98% of street fights end up on the ground? Where the fuck do you get your statistics from? lol
Dude, you are not seriously telling me somebody actually did a "field research" on streetfights alright, namely, some fight sociologists go out and observe the outcomes of more than 180 streetfights before they come up with the stats
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Voodoofreak35 1 year ago
@sightf2 In a street fight, you don't want to go to the ground, that's why Karate or Kung Fu or Muay Thai is still so much more popular than BJJ when it comes to striking. People strike and hit in real life, they don't climb onto you and try to do an arm lock. That's BJJ fun but not realistic.
Fact: The special forces and the military do not learn BJJ, they learn Karate, TaeKwonDo or Kung Fu. And yes they do teach take-downs, not competition BJJ where you are always rolling on the ground.
Voodoofreak35 1 year ago
@Voodoofreak35 yes indeed I agree 1000 % with you ... sport ground fighting is not for the street... But I feel you are to focused in Asian martial arts... Every nation has martial arts , not only the Asians .. For example same Western Martial Arts are Savate(de Rue), Kampfringen, Boxing (bare nuckle) , Catch as Catch can Wrestling , Glima , Runa Glima ,
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@Voodoofreak35 Bjj is very realistic... If all people do is strike in "real life", then how do you think the outcome will be if one of those strikers were to be face to face with a bjj practitioner? It is definite that the bjj practitioner would win unless the striker is like 20 times bigger. If the striker has a weapon, then sportive jiu jitsu would not be effective at all. Combative jiu jitsu, however, would be perfect for self defense against weapons.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 Don't think grapling is superior to striking . Both are needed to complete the fighting art... Striking is very useful... With striking weight, size and strength is not important. You can be 100 kg more than me , but if I hit you in sensitive areas you are fucked( as example... foot, shin, knee, genital area , diafraghma, ribs, face, halse back area of the head).... In grappling size is much more important than in striking...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 If you are an experienced grappler and your opponent is not, then it would be much easier to control and dominate him. By experienced i mean being able to effectively use his own strength and size against him. In striking, if your attacker is bigger than you, he has an advantage. In grappling, if the opponent is bigger than you, you will at least have a better chance of surviving.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Now I'm not necessarily saying that grappling is superior over striking no matter what; I'm just saying that in some cases and probably in most, grappling is a better decision.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@Voodoofreak35 And technically the special forces, army, navy seals, and marines are taught bjj since most takedowns are based on bjj techniques. various chokes and locks also come with their training.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 The US special forces train so far I know marine martial arts who is a mix from many styles of the world evolved for practicality...
If they train in BJJ , than they are ignorants... I don't see the logic .... How great is the chanche in modern warfare to fight only 1vs1 in the ground without weapons and knifes ???
Do you know Defendu ??? Defendu has no ground fighting.
If you fall in the ground you need not training, you need only need the ''hit who ever you can'' tactik ..
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Srry if i wasnt clear on the US forces training. I didnt mean that the only thing they train in is bjj. you are right they are taught a mixture of martial arts, but grappling techniques are a vital part to their hand to hand combat training. They are taught a variety of takedowns, chokes, and locks based on BJJ.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Now the amount of training you are in and the number of techniques you are taught depends on what branch of the military you are in. For example: The navy gets far more training in hand to hand combat than the army or air force. But my main point is that BJJ is incorporated into military hand to hand combat training.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 Only elite-soldiers need hand to hand combat...
Hand to hand combat is more useful in police units , civilians or in spionage agencies (who may be in enemy field without weapons).
Much important than to speak about the striking-grappling bullshits is to know how work violence and how you can avoid it.... Is much more important than hand to hand combat itself :-)....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 thats correct. BJJ is taught to the military because soldiers kneed to be taught somthing that is effective and can be quickly learnt cos h2h training is very short. to teach a soldier to effectivly strike takes alot of time and practice. but a soldier can be taught to take a man down, and control him for long enough to drawn a side arm or choke them in hardly anytime at all.
tyebo87 1 year ago
@tyebo87 No bjj is taught to the military only as muscular ,endurance training and for have a will to fight in all areas ..... I don't think BJJ as trained today has a purpose in selfdefense, and it has definitaly not a puropose in warfare .... lol
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 it takes along time to learn how to strike effectivly and reliably. a soldier can be taught to take a man down and control him using bjj long enough to draw a side arm or to choke him to death in a short period of time. thats why the russian army is taught sambo, the americans bjj. basic effective grappling can be taught extremly quickly.
tyebo87 1 year ago
@tyebo87 You are again wrong... Striking is very easy, it can be taught very fast and it is very effective against all types of opponents .. In grapling is strength very important..... If you make grapling you lose the point of striking ..... Striking is true fighting,
If you try to get on the ground to controll than you are dead ... lol are you joking me ??? If I throw my opponent , than I will kick him on the face , or I will jump at him...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 well, I do agree that if you throw someone using Judo or Sambo, chances are the fight is over then (effective throw) but you know what they say: 100% of the fights start on the ground and 80% end up. So if you end up on the ground, your grappling skills learned in Judo or Sambo or BJJ will help you avoid punches, strikes, etc by controlling or submitting your opponent.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 i meant 100% start up and 80% end up on the ground
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@tyebo87 Combat Sambo for the military has nothing to do with the sport Sambo ...
If one throw me on the ground and than comes to controll me on the ground , than I will attack his eyes, his groins, ears , nose or other vulnerable areas..
Sport ground tactics has nothing to do with real ground fighting .....
look at all pure selfdefense systems .. Defendu ,ww2 combatives , Krav Maga , Guided Chaos , did you think all those are fools who say that striking is the king of true fighting ????
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 no no no i dont think you understand the whole concept of Bjj. The reason why it was made is so a smaller WEAKER opponent can control and dominate a bigger STRONGER opponent. Bjj is not about strength it is about technique. there is no reason why a trained Bjj practitioner could not prevail in a hand to hand fight with an unskilled opponent there is absolutely no way. whether it is sportive or combative there is no way.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 all arts are made for the same reason :-) ... look BJJ as it trained today in the most places is basically a sport and has only small purpose in selfdefense ....
Generally ground game is not for selfdefense because it is not good against multiple opponents.. Beside of them if the other strikes , bite and eyegouging than its very difficlut to wrestle ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 BJJ was not "made", it was modified. There is a difference between modification and creation.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo well, that's not exactly true... Japanese jiu jitsu was modified by the gracie family to be more effective in self defense and sportive competition. there really was no such thing as brazilian jiu jitsu until the gracie family modified it themselves. So in a way, BJJ was "made" by the gracies.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 well, based on history of martial arts, Japanese JiuJitsu (aka Jujutsu) was the samuari martial art that involved striking, kicking, weapons training, grappling, chokes, arm locks, etc. Kano took his knowledge of Japanese JJ and developed Judo, which is a modified version of Japanese JiuJitsu. He took ALL of the best parts from Jujutsu and created Judo. Then Gracies took Judo and created BJJ by modifying Judo (not Japanese JJ).
pcjudosambo 1 year ago 15
@pcjudosambo wow somebody actually knows that bjj evolved from judo newaza
ThomasMin1988 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
Of course Maeda was a Jodoka, but he also praticed Jiu Jitsu.
If not, why would he personal call it Jiu Jitsu? Why didn't he correct the Gracies to call it Judo? According to Helio Gracie Maeda taught them Japanese Jiu Jitsu. Why people insist in correcting the Grand Master?
Judo and BJJ are very similar, but Judo was made as a sport, and maybe the best sport in the world imho, GJJ (BJJ) was meant always for a real fight, no rules, no time limits, no weight classes.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@firulaisjj You're incorrect. In the book "The Cannon of Judo" and Gracies have stated that the reason it was called Jiu-Jitsu is because back then Kano's system was not called Judo, it was called Kano Jiu-Jitsu and Maeda was a Kodokan member and was sent to Brazil to spread "Kodokan Jiu-Jitsu" as it was called back then. Brazil never "updated" the name and did not stick to the Kodokan rules (less ne-waza) and that's why it is called Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Meada taught Gracies Kodokan Judo not JJJ
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
cool.
So but that time it was called Jiu Jitsu, we both agree on that, Helio never updated the name because he was never interested in a sport. And although I haven't the book you mentioned I have spent some time with Helio, his sons and direct students.
What Helio and the Gracies did was different from Kano's idea, it was oriented to a real life situation. And that was the reason they didn't follow the Kodokan.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
continuing....
If the Masters such as Carlos and Helio Gracie called it Jiu Jitsu, it is good enough.
They didn't belong to the sport of Judo, although Helio himself would recommend Judo if you want a sport.
They called it as they were taught to do it, Jiu Jitsu, they defended it by putting it to test and they have changed the Martial Arts world. Gracie Jiu Jitsu deserves its name and should be respected.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@firulaisjj Gracies can call it anything they like. BJJ is a sport and a self-defense system (if it wasn't a sport, there would be no BJJ competitions). Judo is a sport and a self-defense system (Judo has been part of many armies of the world, South Korea, Japan, Europe, South America). Judo and BJJ/GJJ share 98% of the techniques, so how can they be different? Chokes, ground game, throws, sweeps, position control, all shared in Judo and BJJ. They are the same just with different teaching style
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
BJJ is a sport, but if you search you will find that Helio Gracie put himself apart of the sportive aspect of Jiu Jitsu, and believe or not 95% of BJJ ignore the self defense system of Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
As I say before Judo is an amazing sport, I train it a lot because I like it, but 100% of the Judokas I met had the bad habits of the rules, they give their back easily, go explosive due to the 5 min rounds, rely a lot on power and conditioning instead of technique.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@firulaisjj
although the techniques are basically the same, Judo doesn't train leg locks, and in all my years of Judo I never saw an instructor teaching defense from the bottom facing your opponents (before you blame my instructors let me tell you they are amazing, world class level). GJJ first aspect is defense, that is the huge difference with Judo. As well as the average Judoka black belt would throw anybody, the average GJJ black belt would survive and maybe finish anybody.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@firulaisjj Listen, you seem like a nice person but please stop saying wrong things. Historically, you're wrong on everything. Gracies were responsible for MMA, which is a SPORT & self-defense method. Gracies created International BJJ Federation, which "was created by Master Carlos Gracie Jr. to officially represent the sport of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu around the world" this is taken directly from their web site. BJJ is a sport, deal with it. Now to self-defense & leg locks ... read next post.......
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
as I stated, Helio Gracie didn't support the BJJ sport on his late years, because he noticed BJJ guys were making same technical mistakes than Judokas and wrestlers by giving their back and using techniques that wouldn't work in a real fight.
again Gracie Jiu Jitsu was made as self defense system purely, not as a sport, if you don't believe me just research Helio's comments about it.
When Helio lost to Kimura , he already choked out Kato, and later Kimura lost to Valdemar Santana.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
anyways is not my point to take anything from Kimura nor Judo.
My original point was that Helio and Carlos called the art "Gracie Jiu Jitsu" and this art is recognized in Japan.
again if the grand masters called it that way, why not respect it?
I never heard my teachers nor Helio disrespecting Jigoro Kano, on the other hand they considered Judo the original Jiu Jitsu sport and not BJJ.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@firulaisjj I respect BJJ guys but just like there's BJJ sport there's also BJJ self-defense. Same with Judo. There's Judo as a sport & there's self-defense. It all varies from dojo to dojo. My nephew practices Judo & Sambo & leg locks are definitely covered, so is MMA and defense against multiple attackers, etc. Secondly, this entire debate is about to be ended by a nice video of Royce Gracie stating that there's NO difference between GJJ and BJJ in terms of techniques:
watch?v=f6jnoSbEKfw
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@firulaisjj Don't forger, the founder of BJJ was submitted by a Kodokan Judoka (named Kimura) by Ude-Garami (shoulder lock), which resulted in a broken shoulder. Secondly, Judo has no leg locks???? Are you out of your mind? Visit judoinfo . com / leglocks . htm (of course without the spaces).
Then view this video of a Judoka performing leg locks:
watch?v=QJ0v2rXdBaY
If you want to see a Kodokan technique manual, go to their site, legs locks are there. So please do research before stating stuff
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
we all know the Kimura story, and we all respect it. Even Helio, although he never broke Helio's arm, Kimura said that, but Helio always denied it. Helio was extremely flexible he could touch his ears with the arm in that position, Helio admitted he passed out though during that combat.
Today in Judo sport leg locks are forbidden, the average Judoka ignores leg locks, although it was part of the program, that's the disadvantage of a sport with many rules.
firulaisjj 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo who are gracies?
jcp5383 1 year ago
@jcp5383 Founders of BJJ
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
Jiu-Jitsu > Judo > Bjj.
isnt the same but modificated?
skuval 11 months ago
@skuval yap all were modified from their previous mother-arts.
pcjudosambo 11 months ago
@pcjudosambo
yea i know.
jiu jitsu is a mother martial art
i do jiu jitsu traditional and brazilian jj a little bit
skuval 11 months ago
@skuval not exactly look each one up in wikipedia and then ul understand the differences
undeadhunter5 11 months ago
@undeadhunter5 i know the differences... i wonna mean , Bjj and Judo come from jiu jitsu nippon.
pd: sorry for my english, i from chile, and i trainning jiu jitsu tradicional Bjj box and mma :)
saludos desde chile!
skuval 11 months ago
@pcjudosambo he didnt take the best, he just excluded the striking
normalnamesplz 10 months ago
@normalnamesplz and took the best out ... he avoided grappling techniques like small joint manipulation, etc. If you look at the first ever Kodokan Jiu-Jiutsu aka Kodokan Judo handbook, the original techniques had no small joint manipulation and Aikido style grappling techniques. All of these Aikido style grappling techniques were added to the Kodokan in 1950's-1960's.
pcjudosambo 10 months ago
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@pcjudosambo PLEASE Tell me people...does BJJ ever stand up and fight?.
What is this thing about going to the floor? DO NOT TELL ME THAT FIGHTS END UP ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING BJJ IS VERY WEAK AGAINT TWO OR MORE ATTACKERS. WHAT WOULD BRAZILIAN JIU JITSU DO AGAINTS TWO ATTACKERS ON THE FLOOR? YES YOU GUEST IT!!!!!!!!!
slouttop 10 months ago
@pcjudosambo that's tru becaouse people don't understand diference between jj and judo and bjj
Boriskordic 7 months ago
@pcjudosambo yeah your correct that maeda's idea was to promote judo, he went to south america due to north america at that time, had a bad opinion of the japanese, and they went their before and maeda beat a wrestler, but he couldnt accept it, and had a fight with maeda's capanion and he was deafeated so it was a failure north, maeda taught the gracies for about 2 years but stressed his techniqes were JJJ with some judo, which the gracies manipulated and changed to BJJ etc etc etc...
B3nBo1194 6 months ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 well Sport Sambo is part of Combat Sambo and Sport Sambo can and IS used as a style of self-defense. It's not a complete art because it forbids many of the techniques allowed in Judo or BJJ (e.g. chokes). Even Combat Sambo tournaments are not a true depiction of what Russian Special Forces learn. Their Sambo is different because they practice lethal techniques that cannot be practiced in Combat Sambo tourneys. But Combat Sambo as a whole is a very effective art.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 ground fighting is different with street survival in the ground ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 with striking, size, weight, and strength definitely matter. The bigger and stronger you are, the more damage you can do. If you can do any damage to someone who weighs 100k more than you even by hitting sensitive areas, he can do far greater damage to you AND he can also hit YOUR sensitive areas as well. Also, he has a better chance of knocking you out.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 sorry but I think you mean adifferent striking game that I mean.... The difference in damage is not very important... Imagine is their a big difference if one hit you in the genital area ??? It dosn't matter if he is 60 or 120 kg... Imagine a strike in the shin, knee, foot, ribs , halse, eyes,nose,ear,spine or the back area of the head.... Speed is very important too.....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 the elbows , the knees , the head are very hard ... Even a small girl can lacterate you face with a elwow strike or destroy you back area of the head with a ''edge of the hand'' blow ....
I train myself in ju jitzu... I am relative muscular and I have a great advantage in wrestling/grappling.... Muscular Strength and Size is much more important in grappling than in striking.... In striking is speed, accuratation and timing much more important than brute strength....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 Wrestling/Grappling is like weightlifting........... Striking is more like shot put..... you don't know sure if the joint-lock techniques of marine martial art are from BJJ, JJ , Catch Wrestling, Kung fu or any other martial art.... If they are same JJ technicques , than evolved for practicality and not sport ground fighting...
The modern warfare has a very little purpose for hand to hand combat...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 hand to hand combat is still key for modern warfare. most conflicts now are fought at close quaters in urban locations like the gaza strip, iraq and afganistan. armies no longer line up on battle feilds. in afganistan and iraq at the moment peace keeping and patrols mean that no lethal metods of restraining civilians or suspected terrorists means that hand to hand combat is needed.
tyebo87 1 year ago
@tyebo87 No, in my opinion are you wrong .... I think you live in the phantasy world of sport ground game..
First in modern warfare I will use my weapon , not my fists and I will definitaly not wrestle with the enemy.... Did you think a weapon is not useful in close combat?? The martial arts of the future are the weapons ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12
Writtein google ''nononsenseselfdefense''....
Marc ''Animal'' MacYoung is very realistic expert in surviving in violence situations or more better to avoid violence situations and .....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 U know wut im just gonna tell you my main point right now. Gracie jiu jitsu has a number of techniques very useful in self defense situations. You dont have to use any chokes or locks if you dont want to. They teach a number of gun and knife defenses as well as escapes from certain positions that you could get caught in in a real life situation which can definitely become very useful in self defense. If you dont agree to that then i dont know what to tell you.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
your all on about street fighting and how shit goes down, half of you probs havent even had a street fight in your life so how the fuck do you know how it works? not saying i have because i havent but you all go on about and you probs dont know shit.
be93lolzy 1 year ago
@be93lolzy I agree with you.... Thats my words.... A street fight is not like a sporting match....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
Brazilian song.
song = Apaga mas não bate
Artist = Pregador Luo
Johnykitu 1 year ago
@Johnykitu Thank you very much :)
alucard3110 1 year ago
some people say ohh ground fighting isnt for real life but yet most of the fights i have been in i have taken it to the ground and won because the other person didnt know what to do and his friends wer their but thats just me
NITRO505 1 year ago
this video is so sick. all the subs look so clean and slick its ridiculous!
Bentbjj 1 year ago
What´s the name of the Song / Band ?
alucard3110 1 year ago
This is an armbar highlight with occasional triangles and kneebars, so call it an armbar highlight. While they are great, there is so much more to BJJ than these few submissions. To call the video "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu" you need to represent the other aspects of the art.
getthetapjj 1 year ago 5
@getthetapjj wow dude you're so right! you should make a compilation you fucking faggot instead of bitching about stupid shit
now shove your head up your daddys ass queer
gman1876 1 year ago
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dimi887 1 year ago
nice :)
miro19dj 1 year ago
son putos gays jiujitsu
yo10mas 1 year ago
well i thought it was cool.
karatergb 1 year ago
qual nome da musica?
PiadoSom 1 year ago
The standing man has the advandage against a man on the ground, despite of this in selfdefense its is better to make the throw and than immediately to kick the opponent or jump against him. Ground fighting as in Wrestling or MMA for example is very dangerous in selfdefense, because you are only against one opponennt, because maybe he has friends or a knife.
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
cqkinser if you are in real selfdefense you can not fight with the opponent in the ground. Are you serious?? If you are on top the other guy can hit you easily in the genital area!!!! Maybe the other dude has a knife, maybe he has friends near....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 There's training for all this, two cannot fight standing if one doesn't want, you can always grab him to the ground, or just knock him down and look around or run.
hansnery 1 year ago
@hansnery believe me no training exist for survive in the ground against a knife or groundfighting against more than one opponent. Groundfighting is for the sporting duell ,not for the true world.
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 ya it is because you can disarm then and you learn takedowns in BJJ and trust me i do BJJ and ground fighting happens a lot ain real life
jjrickroller 1 year ago
@jjrickroller in the real world the ground is the last place you would be , because the most streetfights are between many opponents and not 1vs1 duells.... What if the enemy has a knife in the ground???? Sport groundfighting is useless in the true world.....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 What if the enemy has a knife? You do realize that BJJ teaches you disarming skills.. Just saying. And alot of streetfights are between 1 vs 1. this isnt the outsiders or some movie where entire gangs are fighting everyday in all out war. Fights do end up on the ground, ALOT, it just tends to happen.
Betterthanjimmy 1 year ago
@Betterthanjimmy many arts have disarming skills.... But you can not disarme in the ground...... Only few (true!) streetfights are 1vs1 .... Fights end not always in the ground and if they end in the ground than real ground survival techniques are different than sporting technicques.... Show for example Krav Maga ground fighting and Glima (Lausatouk style) Ground fight.... the objektive is to stand immediately in your feets and not to make joint-locks in the ground...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 Well if u are skilled and dominant on the ground its actually very easy to control your opponents arms. I personally think its better to be able to control your opponents arms than just trying to dodge slashes to the body and hope u dont get stabbed or cut. Also, Krav maga took their ground fighting techniques from jiu jitsu so if u knew jiu jitsu u could still easily find ur way up on ur feet if u wanted to plus u would be dominant and know how to submit on the ground.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 how to submit on the ground??? If you try to ''submit'' in the ground in a real fight than you are dead..... The aid is to be immediately in your feets like in Lausatoek Glima (Icelandic martial art) or like in Krav Maga ( Israeli close combat system) ....
Krav Maga is not from ju jitzu..... Krav Maga is a mix from many western and asian combat styles addapted to maximal practicality...
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 original ju jitzu was very different than the today sporting ju jitzu arts....
original ju jitzu was more brutal and effective , like Glima , Krav Maga , Defendu or some styles of Kung fu ....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 well obviously u wouldnt want to "submit" someone on the ground if it was a street fight. you would probably choke them out or break one of their limbs to leave them incapacitated. And yes ground fighting krav maga is based on brazilian jiu jitsu. There are different types of bjj just so u know. There is bjj primarily made for competition and sport and there is combative bjj for self defense which includes disarming and striking techniques. for example: gracie jiu jitsu
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 No you are wrong. Krav Maga ground fighting is not based in brasilian ju jitzu. Krav Maga has as base many arts. BJJ is a ''copy'' from japanese ju jitzu . I don't know about gracie ju jitzu . I speak about the sporting ju jitzu competition and say that this is not for the real fight.....
You can not fight in the ground if the other guy has a knife or is more stronger than you or if he has friends ......
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@yobrotha12 in a real fight they are no rules. The other guy can bite or hit in the genital area..... The most of the sporting ju jitzu is based that the other guy respect the rules and don't bite or hit in the genital area... In a streetfight they are not rules, you can not grapple like in the gym .....
megasayajinsongoku99 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 why do u keep saying that? Krav maga GROUND FIGHTING/DEFENSE is based on jiu jitsu. I think there is some judo in there too but there is deffinitely jiu jitsu. Bjj is actualy japanese ju jitsu altered to be more useful and advantageous to smaller fighters. sporting jiu jitsu will be less affective than combative/gracie jiu jitsu in a real fight, but even if you only knew sporting jiu jitsu, you could still incorporate that no rule concept and still dominate your attacker.
yobrotha12 1 year ago
@megasayajinsongoku99 True you cant expect to win a street fight if ur attacker's friends jump you, but i doubt anyone trained in krav maga can fend off let alone dominate multiple attackers at once. As for strength of your attacker, Bjj was made so a smaller, weaker person can control and dominate a stronger, bigger opponent. Its also true that u might not be able to fend off someone with a knife with only knowledge of sportive bjj, but with combative jiu jitsu there is no doubt u can dominate.
yobrotha12 1 year ago