Alex Jones - A nation of 3rd graders/STOP STEALING OUR KIDS!

[intotheinfinite]

What a fucking lunatic

[CPSSucks]

They sent her a petition. She couldn't give a damn. She's not so far out of the loop that she wouldn't have heard of CPS horrors and injustice at any rate. She has built her empire on abuse and child abuse. She's a demonic monster, if only for supporting those satanic pigs, Scientology. And please don't ask me for a source to show you Scientology is evil. That's so elementary.

[fuzzyprism]

I don't follow or watch Oprah. I do know from research she's done shows on child neglect and even pointed to inadequacies in the CPS system. Though I would suggest, perhaps, that she doesn't consider her programming content to be dictated by the lunatic fringe, who seem to constantly deny the reality of child abuse, think that any and all birth parents are perfect by virtue of bloodline, and that any defense of helpless children is interpreted as some covert agenda by gays or child molesters.

[CPSSucks]

The only lunatic fringe here is the one you belong to, FuzzyPrism.

[fuzzyprism]

CPSSUcks, respond to these items point-by-point:

1. Birth parents, by bloodline, are incapable of abuse.

2. Child abuse is only a product of non-birth parents.

3. Any attempt to ward off potential abuse of children by non-birth parents is a product of molestation and/or the "gay agenda."

I look forward to your response.

[beausjohnson]

I love Alex Jones and what he does but I know from first hand knowledge that Child Abuse exist and child are beaten by their parents - sexually abused by their parents - neglected (starving) by their own parents - so i agree with you as an Alex Jones listener - I'm also gay and hated the fact I was gay and tried everything I could to not be - Alex Jones is a little unsympathetic to gays but I understand where he's coming from - anyway I agree with you - cps is corrupt but kids are being abused

[CPSSucks]

And it's interesting that Oprah was a big force in the abuse industry, specifically the child abuse industry. She made millions promoting the idea that everyone and their dog was a victim of abuse, that abuse was everywhere. Yet, even though thousands (perhaps more) of people have implored her to do a show on CPS, she ignores them.

[fuzzyprism]

and how do you know thousands, perhaps more, have implored Oprah to do a show on CPS? What's your source?

[CPSSucks]

I'll have to look for the one on fisting. It's not how you describe whatsoever, however.

[CPSSucks]

Here's a video about a school board that has voted to include classes on homosexuals, and transgenders in kindergarten.

"Same Sex Lessons for Kindergarteners!"

[fuzzyprism]

I am aware of this. So? It's about tolerance and against bullying. Imagine some parents who actually WANT their children to be exposed to lessons in humanitarianism and civility at such an early age. And you think you know better than those parents?

[CPSSucks]

It's about teaching "tolerance" for homos and TRANSGENDERS in kindergarten. Do you realize how insane that sounds?

[fuzzyprism]

Honestly, IMO in Kindergarten I'd teach tolerance and the evils of bullying in general. But parents of children who are bullied at that age may feel differently.

[CPSSucks]

It's highly inappropriate, to say the least. And you are correct to say that it should be taught in general terms. But then that would not indoctrinate the children, now would it? The gay agenda - it seems highly probable - is part of the New World Order plan to create a perverse universe. Some very evil people are in power, and they eventually want us to accept pedophilia and more. Check out the Franklin Coverup.

[fuzzyprism]

CPSSucks, to be honest, you seem to embody the traits of a conspiracy theorist. The "New World Order" comment is just the most recent log on that fire. To make the leap from teaching tolerance to some massive organized agenda of making pedophilia accepted is beyond my capabilities of reason.

BTW, you asked specifics on what I know of CPS practices. What do YOU know what's specifically planned to be instructed to kindergarten? Perhaps you're making assumptions.

[CPSSucks]

Yeah, that's right - I'm just a conspiracy theorist. wow. Take a look around you, pal.

[CPSSucks]

Here's a video about gay pedophiles and fine upstanding members of the community:

"Gay Activist Ring Leader of Paedophile Ring in Scotland"

[fuzzyprism]

Yes heard about this too. Sad. What does this have to do with CPS or gay adoption? Are you trying to make some general point about gays from specific instances? If so, for every post you make, I'll find and make a dozen about a heterosexual sex offender. Then will you conclude that heterosexuals are in general perverts?

You really don't get it do you?

[CPSSucks]

Tolerance, ah yes. And it's only a matter of time before we are tolerating pedophilia. That's the goal.

[fuzzyprism]

It's the goal only in yours and a few perverted minds. But you will believe what you will.

[CPSSucks]

I've yet to hear one homosexual come out and say CPS is what it is - a gang of thugs, who kidnap children. They can't say this because it would be an acknowledgement that the provenance of their "families" is a problem. Therefore, they either ignore CPS's corruption - or like you - claim it doesn't exist, or isn't a problem.

[CPSSucks]

Where is the "overwhelming" evidence that homosexual men do not want to have sex with little boys or young men less than heterosexual men. You watched the video, what exactly has changed as far as the stats. Have homosexuals in the last ten years suddenly stopped raping little boys? (Or whenever the study was done). And keep in mind too, that any criticism whatsoever of gays is tantamount to or IS considered a "hate crime," if not a death knell to a career. Gays are, or have become, tyrants.

[fuzzyprism]

Again you cite child abuse, which I don't deny, but you seem to dismiss any and all evidence of heterosexual child abuse, often at the hands of blood parents. I will admit it's been difficult to find statistics, which is partly why I asked you. The studies I did find include no correlation to same-sex orientation and a higher propensity towards child abuse. And I did cite the headlines (from one google page of many) and the statistic that 1/3 of child sexual abuse is father-daughter.

[CPSSucks]

Anyone who knows anything about CPS knows that it is FULL of perverts and pedophiles. There are news stories all the time about this and there are many more stories that don't get out there, but you know exist, because of the stories aged out foster children tell. CPS would have you believe that foster care is better than bio parents, yet the gov't own stats state that a child has at least 8 times greater chance of abuse in foster hell. A child will ALWAYS suffer horrific trauma.

[fuzzyprism]

"CPS would have you believe that foster care is better than bio parents"

Again, no. At least not anyone associated w/ CPS that I've heard from. As I said, CPS seems adamant that removal of a child from its birth parents is a last resort - often against the beliefs of the medical or educational professionals who contact them. I'm surprised you aren't targeting teachers and doctors, as CPS is a response group. And hate to tell ya, while there may be false claims, there are sh*tty parents too.

[CPSSucks]

You are taking their PR at face value. CPS says - and their laws say - that the priority is to keep the child with the family. The reality is far different. Are you a CPS worker? How many CPS workers do you know, and what means do you have to verify their claims?

And I am targeting teachers, doctors, etc. I have said many times that I am opposed to mandatory reporting, and that those who make false claims should go to jail for a long, long time. I made a video about Dr. Charles Smith.

[CPSSucks]

My beefs with gays are these: quit trying to indoctrinate children with your beliefs; and quit appropriating stolen children (children stolen by CPS). Gays want to get married and have children. Please don't tell me that there are all these poor children that need to be adopted (when adoption DEPENDS upon legalized kidnapping), and that gays are getting a lot of babies from surrogate moms or insemination. The latter two are too expensive and not practical.

[fuzzyprism]

As for indoctrination: hate to burst your bubble but that's a fallacy. Being gay is not Jehovah's Witnesses. As the general acceptance is that it's not a choice, indoctrination would imply choice. Can't you see the illogic in your claim?

As for adoption: you obviously have strong feelings about CPS so discussion would be moot. I know several gay parents; 1 was a surrogate who's a part of his child's life, 1 was the father & now divorced. Others adopted; some, children considered "undesirable."

[CPSSucks]

No sane person could read that perverted @#$@#$ on my video and not have absolute disgust for homosexual politics / agenda. Frank Lombard is the tip of the tip of the iceberg. Any sane person can see as much.

[fuzzyprism]

As I said to you in a previous post, I share your disgust at association such as NAMBLA or the "Journal of Homosexuality" which try to legitimize sexual relations with minors. However you draw unfounded correlations between them and teaching tolerance towards gays in schools. I'm sorry you cannot see the difference. And that you consider child sexual abuse a gay issue --that's blatantly false and a disservice to all the children abused sexually by their birth father or mother.

[CPSSucks]

But as you can see from the video that I made, which is actually taken from an article, the "gay community" does not distance themselves from pedophilia.

There are videos that document quite clearly that homosexual sex (i.e., "fisting") is being taught in schools, I believe to children as young as 12.

I don't consider ALL sexual abuse a gay issue, but I want to counter to pervasive propaganda that child abuse is largely a heterosexual issue.

[fuzzyprism]

There are videos that document quite clearly that homosexual sex (i.e., "fisting") is being taught in schools, I believe to children as young as 12.

If you refer to "Fistgate", that's a complete distortion of facts. The event was held at a college to talk about gay tolerance taught in schools. Someone brought their 12yo child. One portion was a q&a session with hand-written questions by the audience. One question was about fisting. That does NOT mean it's taught in schools nor intended to be.

[fuzzyprism]

"But as you can see from the video that I made, which is actually taken from an article, the "gay community" does not distance themselves from pedophilia."

How do you know that? What is the basis for your conclusion? I think sex with children is disgusting, as does every other gay person I know. And again, why do you compartmentalize sexual abuse of children in terms of being gay? Do you think that absolves heterosexuals of any sexual crime towards children?

[CPSSucks]

skip to about 2:48 for the part on Gays and lesbians stealing children. When are people going to wake up and realize this isn`t about `tolerance`of gays, but about outrage against child stealers. How many more Frank Lombards are there. How many more Georgia Tanns are there. Children are being stolen all over the world. Just so selfish, greedy, child-stealing creeps can have a ``family.` People have to start getting angry about this tyranny; if you aren`t angry, there is something wrong

[SilverRedIndigo]

I don't understand why I'm not hearing any voices coming out of the gay community talking against the pedophiles.

They're not all pedophiles, certainly. Why aren't they dissociating from those who are?

Or are they being shut up?

[CPSSucks]

No, they aren't being shut up - it isn't some conspiracy to protect good gays who want to protest. Even if you go to comments sections where comments are censored or reviewed pending approval, the comments that are made are not condemning Lombardo. The comments being made about this lack of condemnation are questioning the gays: why aren't any gays condeming Frank Lombardo? But no, the gays are complaining how it will affect them and their plans for adoption.

[fuzzyprism]

SilverRedIndigo, any child abuse or molestation is a heinous act. Despite what you may believe though, they are not exclusive to homosexuals. Facts are, there are far more cases of sexual abuse committed by heterosexuals, including birth parents and immediate family members as well as family friends and strangers. I dissociate and condemn myself from any pedophile, gay or straight, as a monster.

[fuzzyprism]

CPSSucks, where are your statistics for sexual abuse by same-sex couples of adopted children. Conversely, what are your statistics for sexual abuse by biological fathers of their daughters or sons. I'm not talking singular incidents, of which I could cite several in both cases.

And where are you statistics for adoption by means of 1. willful reliquishment by the birth parent 2. pre-birth arrangement and 3. unwilling removal of a child from its birth parents.

[CPSSucks]

Watch my Frank Lombard video entitled "Frank Lombard: An Anomaly?" As far as adoption goes, the corrupt system is not going to keep stats like that, obviously. But if you want to get an idea of how revoltingly corrupt adoption is, you can start with the beginning, Georgia Tann, a child abusing lesbian. There is even more money to be made now, more demand, more corruption. The gov't is not in the business of protecting us, or our children, that should be obvious to anyone.

[fuzzyprism]

CPSSucks, as well, I asked you for statistics comparing abuse, both sexual and non-sexual, for birth parents compared to adoptive parents. Were you able to find any sources to provide? I can cite several headlines from recent history, including a mother who, released from a mental hospital, battered her two children to death after social services allowed her an unsupervised visit. Anecdotal and sensational stories are easy to come by. Statistics though bring merit to a discussion like this.

[fuzzyprism]

"The gov't is not in the business of protecting us, or our children "

CPSSucks, I doubt you will read this seriously. I've spent some time trying to find info on CPS in the past few weeks. From 1st and 2nd-hand accounts of those w/CPS, the last thing they want to do is separate a child from its parents. They investigate reports from teachers, medical pros, and others. Docs & nurses I've talked to think CPS is too lenient towards birth parents given the evidence they've been trained to report.

[fuzzyprism]

CPSSucks, I watched your video. You tend to pull citations from the same or overlapping cross-supporting sources. Some over 20 years old. While I agree with your apparent distaste for certain groups such as the Journal of Homosexuality, they feign legitimacy & are not supported by the APA nor the gay community. You also neglect to mention sexual abuse of girls is much higher than for boys. Or that over 70% of male-to-boy offenders consider themselves heterosexual in adult relations.

[CPSSucks]

Okay, well it's obvious that you are going to nitpick the truth because you have an agenda = I'm not going to waste my time. There are countless parents and legal cases showing that CPS is a gang of pedophiles and criminals. You're just the kind of person that pisses me off most - you pretend to seek the facts / truth when all you really want to do is spread more lies. You are culpable in these crimes against babies, children, families and humanity.

[fuzzyprism]

"nitpick truth"? The first thing I asked you for was statistics comparing birth parent to adoptive parent abuse. As I said, anecdotal and sensational news is easy to find. If I make a video and cite real cases of sexual abuse by children at the hands of their birth father or mother, would your conclusion be that ALL birth parents are molesters? Obviously no or you'd be an idiot. Yet you choose not to levy the same standards for others.

[fuzzyprism]

Examples:

Dec 2007: A Canadian father is jailed for offering pix of his naked 4-year-old daughter online.

Apr 2008: a 73-y.o. man admits to locking his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering 7 children with her.

Dec 2008: A 44-year-old woman waives anonymity to reveal her father sexually abused her from ages 6-13.

Father-daughter sexual incest accounts for about one third of all cases of child sexual abuse.

Does tthis mean all birth fathers are then de facto perverts and molesters?

[CPSSucks]

There are many cases of sexual abuse that are in fact not sexual abuse - like the McMartin pre-school. Many of these cases are witch hunts perpetrated by CPS, in order to steal children, and in order for prosecutors, etc., to make a name for themselves. Don't you find it interesting that the MAINSTREAM media has barely reported on Frank Lombard, and when they have, they have often neglected to mention that he is GAY?

[CPSSucks]

Another witch hunt was Michael Jackson. Fueled if not started by that piece of @#$@#$ Gloria Allred.

[CPSSucks]

And I take it from your website that you are homosexual and / or strongly supporting a gay agenda, so you are no doubt obviously anxious to have people believe that Frank Lombard is an anomaly.

[fuzzyprism]

It's classic conspiracy theorism to deny any fact that refute one's claim, and label those who disagree as corrupt or "against them."

Sadly, Lombard is not an anomaly in terms of abuse -- by birth or adoptive, gay or straight parents. To take isolated cases, draw flawed conclusions and label a group as abusers over another in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is a disservice to the security of children.