Wise Up Dominion

[fannon30]

the song is right u can't always get what you want so deal with the coal mines

[motorhed65]

so how did everyone get to the protests?wind power?walk?Did you use that dirty crude oil or charge that electric car on the dirty coal burning power grid?LOL turn off your internet,it uses oil and coal to make the power too.walk to your next protest, lets see if you really can live off the grid.

[dwt66]

It seems Rooktk feels she has much more knowledge than the ones from this area and we are under educated about the problems of our own town so I have said what I can say to show them the truth but they are hell bent on this not wanting to say about government has almost broke all the coal co.s around with fines alone.They dont want you to fix the problem,they want to put those super fines on the co. but I could go on and on and Rooktk will never understand so thank you for your time....

[dwt66]

Its funny you people with other good jobs are the ones bitchin or your family has had money to hand there kids.The working man in Wise will never have a chance as long as the tree huggers are around.Its not a quick buck as you put it,I know Ive been in the coal buss. and you dont even know what the hell youre talking about Its coal or foodstamps you are chooseing for your self thats all.We work hard so welfare can keep most of this place up and Rooktk you are just plain STUPID .STUPID

[Rooktk]

It is disappointing that your comprehension of my comments is so misguided and off that you think that we r on opposite sides of this argument. Sadly it doesn't seem like a good education will help you. If you read again, I'm saying dominion is trying to help with jobs and employment and the environmentalists are preventing that from happening. The coal business is dirty but the way to clean it up is not these protests. Please, find some self respect and comment w/ intelligence in future posts.

[shawnmommy]

Most people from this area that gets a proper education moves away. For those that don't move, there is the coal industry. And as for bringing more business into the area, the "psycho environmentalist" would protest that as well because we would have to move a pile of dirt to build on! If you would come to the area you would see that the majority of land that was once strip mined has been reclaimed. The majority of the town and homes and businesses are built on reclaimed mining sites.

[shawnmommy]

Isn't it a shame that these people such as the coal truckers and miners are trying to make a living? Providing food and shelter for their families? Of all the nerve! My father owns coal trucks and I know that he has worked harder than a lot of people all through his life trying to make a good life for my family.  I know that you may not understand but many people from wise county do not have the opportunities as some in larger areas do. Continued......

[teheitsjessica]

I love wise virginia!

[Rooktk]

You know what I don't get? They'll whine about coal energy, then they'll whine that the wind turbines are killing birds, then they'll whine about building power lines from the sunny deserts through their back yards to deliver solar, then they'll whine about the carbon release from biomass plants, then they'll whine about storage for nuclear waste, then they'll whine about disrupting water flows with hydro. When you learn to bake your cake and eat it to, then we can talk.

[teheitsjessica]

stfu!

[Rooktk]

Thank you for your insightful and intellectual response. See this is why environmental protesters will not be taken seriously until it is too late. They fail to recognize they need to play on the big boy's playing field, federal government, with rationale ideas and recommendations. I support the idea of conservation and reducing energy dependence but people like you are almost as being bad as being illiterate and trying to teach children to read. Telling someone to shut up doesn't help.

[teheitsjessica]

Your idiotic comments about us whining aren't needed just about as much as my comments. Do you think it's our choice to have this mountaintop removal going on?! No. If we can stop it, we will. This is one of the main money sources into Wise County, and until you can go up there and find another way to get us out of the 22% poverty rate, and make that decrease, then keep your negative comments to yourself. Don't try to assume shit you know nothing about, okay?

[Rooktk]

So attempting to prevent a lawful company that hires people from the local area is going to improve the poverty rate? I think you just agreed with me. All I'm saying is that you won't accept this company, you won't accept nuclear I'm sure, you won't accept clean coal that is mined by the sweat off a man's back. The fact is, poverty exists because people choose to overpopulate areas that don't provide meaningful product to buyers. Hate as you wish. You aren't accomplishing anything either.

[Rooktk]

Also to add to that, if half the people there are as mean hearted as you, perhaps I understand why people are reluctant to lend you a helping hand. I see no reason that mountain tops should be blown off and let slide into rivers to make a quick buck but all I am saying is you don't seem to be offering any alternatives either, other than F*CK ALL WHO DON'T AGREE WITH US! Illegal actions preventing a legal one worked 200 years ago when government was an ocean's away now you need to mix it up.

[teheitsjessica]

Have you been there? Have you taken a census of the folks there? There's only about 3k people in the town of wise. There are no shopping malls, big name brand stores, etc. We never overpopulated that region. There isn't even a large population, retard!

You, my friend, are truly an idiot.

[Rooktk]

There you go... answering your own question. There's overwhelming poverty because the remaining population hasn't figured out how to up and leave. When it takes 10 people to do what used to take 100, 90 people should probably find something else to do. Towns die, maybe it is time to let yours. I really wish you weren't the one to figure out how to get out, however, it is inevitable that Darwin will win out against you.

[teheitsjessica]

It's funny that you should bring up charles darwin....very clever.

But the only fault is, if we up and leave every little town and city, where are we to go? Into worse cities and towns? overpopulate them? cause them to fail?!

[Rooktk]

The inevitable Charles Darwin Survival of the Fittest reference, didn't even see it coming eh? hah.

Anyways, I don't see the big deal with moving from one place to another... people forget that a large part of the planet's population is seminomadic and we have been that way for thousands of years. When one location's resources runs dry, you move to another. Everyone is a leech.

[teheitsjessica]

Well, answer this. What happens when there's no where to move anymore?

[Rooktk]

Well, we'll probably start killing each other off on a larger scale until either the planet can viably supply the remaining survivors or someone figures out how to get off this rock and somewhere else survivable. I don't anticipate having to deal with that, but maybe my kids will one day be suckered into having to take that responsibility.

[dwt66]

Get a life "loser"....

[dwt66]

Thats just what I told them.Thank You

[dwt66]

Your comment shows me just how STUPID you are.Your a Joke.........

[pazsion]

solar panels in some technoliges are up to 90% efficent nowadays, and cost 40% less then 5 yrs ago. Wind at certain altitudes does blow all the time.. on the ridges of mountains would be a great place. with winds higher then 30mph 80% of the time. we can live without coal as a primary fuel for our energy. If we started building other means, coal could be history in less then 10 yrs. we just have to not forget the people who mined it. and make sure they profit somehow. and can continue to build.

[twohandfulls]

brought me to tears.

Thank you for standing up for life, land, and light.

There is no future in cutting up mountains and forests. Life before profit.  '

Thank you for having strong voices. I send my light, love, and gratitude.

[mycomind]

Protesting the corporate backstabbers takes guts! Rare are the individuals who are willing to put their asses on the line for what they believe, that's how our screwed up society got this way, even your so called friends will side against you which is nothing new, unfortunately! Even one protestor can reach other minds if he or she does not surrender. "It's better to light one candle then to curse the darkness." May God bless all the victims of "King Coal" and damm them that done it to us.

[goose1077]

Wait, who is going to own the power plant? Where is the money coming from? If both are private, what is business is it of yours?

[RANVideo]

Who's going to get poisoned with mercury? Who's going to lose access to clean drinking water? Who's going to suffer the effects of global warming? Who's going to be displaced from their home by mountaintop removal? NOT THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PLANT.

[goose1077]

If they don't build the plant, they are still going to mine the coal. Who IS going to suffer the effects of global warming? Because I can't answer that one. Also, how?

[RANVideo]

Less demand for coal means less coal mining; also MTR sources are local, so there could be a significant impact. Local residents will be breathing mercury from the coal smoke.

Those who will be hurt the most by global warming are people in the "third world" and future generations who will have to contend with massive disruption of water supplies and agricultural production, changing coastlines, and more violent weather. We pass tipping points that result in drastic consequences for humanity.

[stickwork2]

The beautiful land there shows the horrible destruction going on in very dramatic terms. If people in urban areas around the country knew the huge ugliness and devastation going on they might do something themselves. Thank you good people for doing what needs to be done!!!!!! Power to your efforts to wake people up..... These filthy corporations need to be held accountable for the environmental destruction they have perpetrated, and we as a country must demand that legislators do it.

[fuckcoal]

i miss appalachia like an ache in my heart, would love to think there'll be some of it left when i return from colorado.

THANK YOU for giving a shit about the resources we all share, and for putting your asses on the line to defend them!

[woodward7710]

i hope you tree huggers enjoyed jail,gotta do what u can do to get a free meal.

[radimatt]

so good.

[CityzenJane]

GREAT WORK YOU GUYS!!!!!

This is fantastic. Thank you for organizing and letting everyone know what is up!!!

[vespering]

Stones music is great but not during interviews, it's annoying when trying to listen to people talk.  Keep up the good works.

[nancylaplaca]

Thank you for speaking out about the horrible permanent effects of Mountain Top Removal - awful. We should be ashamed. Thank you all!

[patginsd]

You kids are so brave.

You make me proud.

I am always signing all petitions to stop mountaintop removal, which is a raping of our lands. It makes me crazy.

[surfaceblaster33]

1) The job they say is MTR is not!! It is contour and 2nd cut. They have put back miles of old highwalls and cleaned up at least 4 gob piles. 2) The support and the signatures they speak of came from outside of Wise county. The majority of the people in Wise county are for the plant. (look up the meeting they had for the plant on 2-11-08. 99%for the plant and 1% against. i heard the had to call in a hazmat team for a strange smell. I say that it is from the no bath taking tree huggers.

[dmeistar]

call it what you want. Its still destructive of a) human health--astronomical rates of cancer, asthma, and birth defects in the surrounding area. I've seen the coal dust that coats every house. I've seen tap water after a faucet was left off for two weeks and the pollutants were allowed to accumulate--it runs black. b) biodiversity--thats the oldest mountain range in the world, and a biodiversity hotspot.

[dmeistar]

(cont) One river in wise county is home to over 40 species of mussels (compare that to about 20 species in all of europe) c)climate stability--i dont think i need to say much about this one. i think the scientific establishment has made themselves quite clear about where we are headed if we continue our use of fossil fuels d) local economy (20% poverty rate in wise county). If coal was going to solve their economic problems it probably would have done so some time in the last 150 years

[kree8peace]

Also, interestingly enough, that meeting you talk about (the one meeting by the way, there were others where those opposed far outweighed, and they were from the community) was one in which Dominion employees were told, in their pay stubs, that they were expected to attend or face the consequences. Today, in Wise, from the driving by we received a consistent rate of 5 supporters to every 1 who was against us.

[refuse2bAvictim]

Way to go guys. Do what you can to stop this madness.

[lugntuz30]

Without coal you protest, you couldnt put your video on youtube. You cant plug that cord into trees. Solar and wind will also play a huge role in the coming years. Not reliable for base load in the US. The gov requires Dom to have "spinning reserve". Without it the electrical grid would collapse on a frequency imbalance due to power demand.  Wind dont blow all the time and sun is only 50% effective at the most. Protest the cost of solar panels. Who can afford that?

[Butchaudacity]

Are you a Coal Company employee?

[lugntuz30]

No I am not. What I am is someone smart enough to look at both sides of an issue and take the time to understand the effects both have.

[herestothelonghaul]

There are ways to deal with the baseload "problem" for example decentralizing the power grid. There are also storage technologies that are already being used in some places: compressed air storage, water reservoir storage, pin wheels, to name a couple that I've been reading about. we can power this coutry without coal. really we can't afford not to switch if we weren't pumping so much energy into new coal and CCS research we solar panels could be cheaper, so i guess we were protesting that...

[lugntuz30]

The power grid is not centralized. Ask California. I'm sorry but you cannot compress enough air,store enough H20(enviro wont let you have run of river hydro remember) pin wheels(what) to make baseload. Come on, base load on an average size utility is 10,000 MW. Thats 20,000 wind turbines running all the time. Scrubbers&circulating fluidized bed has been around for decades. Carbon inject for Hg, not rocket science. The only thing that has money being pumped into it is CO2 storage.

[herestothelonghaul]

its not totally centralized, but we rely on single large generating facilities. All the research that I've read says that multiple wind facilities can back each other up to cover the baseload.

there's also plenty of research that says that the storage technologies that I mentioned are doable on a utility scale.

I don't have time to do the research for you, but its possible, the only barrier is political.

pin wheels aka fly wheels I'll post a link that explains what they are.

[shellius]

the new Smart Grid is going to take care of the baseload problem. It's coming.