It's very common for a teacher's students to come to his or her wedding. If it were a straight couple, no one would have said anything. It's time that people come to realize that all marriages are equal.
Personally...i dont think she should of brought her school kids tot her marriage.....its just not apart of school....same-sex marriage or straight marriage.....soo...i mean ok great teaching kids about Tolerance but..seriously...i dont think they should go to a dang wedding...thats dumb..i know i may get thumbs down..but....i maybe wrong...oh well.
This is total political indoctrination, no doubt about it. I'm not opposed to gay marriage but this topic really does not belong in school, it is controversial and has nothing to do with education. Some parents are opposed to the idea of gay marriage, I support gay rights/marriage, but I also understand parents get to make the decisions regarding the values their family will embrace until their kids are adults and can come to their own conclusions. This does not belong in schools.
America has become another Sodom and Gomorrah! She needs to turn back to God and the Christian principles on which she was founded!
I don't care if you give me a thumbs down! I don't care if you call me a homophobe or that I"m intolerant! I'm standing up for what's right and what's wrong! I'm 53 years old. I'm old-fashioned, and I'm proud of it! You say that you get tired of Christians forcing their beliefs on you. Well I'm tired of forcing your immoral lifestyles on me!
Aimcrew: I don't care if it's 2011! God's laws don't change. Marriage is still between one man and one woman, and that's the bottom line. God's word is still the same in 2011 as it was back in Moses' time!
When I was in first grade back in the 60's, my class went to my teacher's wedding; and it was to a man; not a woman!
This is stupid it WAS UP TO THE PARENTS...thats WHY TWO KIDS DID NOT GO...and as for them being left out they will be just fine...lots of kids dont go to every "field trip"...and they turn out just fine...the media I swear...
This is sick! If I were a parent, I would take my child out of that classroom and put him or her in a Catholic or Christian school! I'd also confront the teacher about this immoral lifestyle that she is teaching her children!
Marriage is between a man and a woman only! God created Adam and Eve; not Adam and Steve or Eve and Eve. The Book of Leviticus says that man shall not lie with mankind and that woman shall not lie with womankind.
That teacher should be fired for this! What a disgrace!
@nanlisa God created Adam, Steve, Eve, Eva, Nanlisa etc etc. They all have the right to get married. There are more books than only leviticus. Open your eyes and mind. I feel like I'm talking to an aboriginal. Those times had past. We are living in 2011, even the bones of Moses doesn't exist anymore.
Another issue: Why would they bring up it being "political indoctrination" to the kids with an election on gay marriage coming up? The kids can't vote anyway, and the parents already have their own views.
She invited her students to come, and they didn't HAVE to come. If their parents didn't want them to go, they didn't have to.
And why are they getting mad at these kids being "excluded"? Do they have ANY idea of how many kids are excluded because of how they look and when people think they're gay?
I found this argument the newscasters having completely ridiculous. Are they even aware of the mass amount of field trips that elementary school kids are assigned to go to that are religion or church based? I even remember a class that was bible study, and only TWO kids didn't go to that class EVERY DAY. And it WAS NOT a catholic or religious private school. It disgusts me that they did not acknowledge that whatsoever.
Err. I think the title isn't correct. It's not a field trip, their teacher was marrying and she invited her students to her wedding. Is that so weird? Would it be any better if it was a hetero marriage? It is just my opinion of course everyone has their own opinion.
This makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah all you idiots out there can thumbs down me but I don't care. When would any children be taken to a wedding for a field trip? Never. It's just a stupid ploy by the teacher who had his/her own political agenda. Let kids be kids. They live for what's fun, not to be on the receiving end of a political bukkake that you fuck faces force down their throats.
Well why not? Schools used to take kids to slaughterhouses to see where meat comes from, but now that's way too "offensive" ewh...people are wimps nowadays and it's because kids aren't exposed to the world and we are too afraid of making kids feel like "outcasts". I all the feild trips should be mandatory. If the parents object, the kid can just deal with a failing grade for that assignment.
This is ridiculous. These kids don't need to be exposed to this sick, perverted bullshit. Kids need to be taught what they can use (reading, wirting arithmetic), and not be exposed to this teacher's deviant, unnatural and abnormal lifestyle. I don't blame the two kids' parents for not allowing their kids to go to that wedding. Men going with men and women going with women is not natural nor normal.
@groundhog713 How is naturality relevant? Grandparents across America are living off of unnatural medication. Violence is a natural instinct of humans. Are you going to argue the former is bad but the latter is good? Your ramblings make no sense and your paranoia less so.
Whether it's the parents or the teachers task to teach children about marriage is a question without a correct answer. I know parents and teachers that aren't fit to teach much more than a specialized field. Some of them are posting on this video...
im so sick of the news promoting homophobia, I'm sure the 2 kids who's parents didnt let them go. were not made to feel bad. all the others their parents let them go.If it had been a straight christian wedding & the 2 kids who didnt go were jewish or another religon. no one would say a word about it.. Also are we suppose to cancell all field trips if a few cant go on trip cause there is always a few who can't
The title is wrong it should read first grades go to there teachers wedding, that's it, she told the kids she was getting married and they expressed an intrest in going. This teacher probably love her kids and want them there. The fact that she is marrying a woman instead of a man makes little difference. The people that are trying to paint this as an attempt to indoctrinate the kids is being dishonest, should we really expect any different form the religious right and fox news at this point.
Discipline for the school?! How bout some discipline for Fox news for bad journalism? In fact you can't even call it journalism it's so full of opinion and right wing rhetoric.
@VitalSigns1 Teach kids equality and to be tolerant of other peoples’ lives. Truthfully I cannot believe the balls on that school, but gj anyway school.
POLITICAL INDOCTRINATION. HUURR DURR. NO SHIT THATS WHAT THIS IS. Why dont you people take them to a STRAIGHT wedding huhh? What, would that be INTOLERANT? KEEP KIDS OUT OF POLITICS.
I don't care what your views are, you have no right to indoctrinate kids. If they would have been taken to an anti-gay trip then everyone would be pissed... but OH NO! since it's THEIR view it's ok!... NO!!! This is absurd! No matter what side you support you can't support this and support free thought of liberals! A TRUE liberal would not allow this!
@YoungIvyScholar So where no suppose to teach are kids to be accepting of people who do no harm to anyone else. Really? Also please don’t use the “no true Scotsman fallacy” to attempt to make some vague meaningless point.
there's really nothing controversial here, i for one don't even see why that one woman felt the need to bring up tolerance, it isn't political at all, here's what happened: there was a field trip, they sent out permission slips all but 2 of the kids' parents signed the permission slips, it was the parents' decision from beginning to end, like any other field trip
They DID put it up to the parents to educate the kids about gay marriage, by giving them the option to let the 'excluded' kids go on the trip! It's like saying ''There are two kids in the class NOT making their communion, so they're left out and excluded''.
@chinn11 i think schools don't need to be left or right or w/e all schools should be independent and unbiased and let the kids (when they're older and more mature) decide for themselves if being gay is wrong or right
I just think think that you are lucky in America to experience stuff like this in schools. Here, the government leaves the schools in the hands of the catholic church, leaving them in a terrible state (watch?v=j04i9ZKE1TU). And homosexuality, divorce and condoms were ALL illegal when I was born.
if this was a heterosexual wedding, this would not be happening. kids will learn about homosexual's as they grow up, I say this is great. PARENTS let them go obviously.
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Of course it is wrong to take young students to any type of wedding. The fact that this was a gay wedding is why they got so much attention. And frankly that is just what this teacher and the gay community were aiming for, publicity and recognition. School is a place to learn math, history, sciences, etc. Parents are responsible for teaching their kids about love and marriage, definitely not some gay teacher.
This is awful. Since when was it the job of schools to teach children about marriage any way? I certainly didn't learn that in school. That's MY job, a parent. There is no place for this in school. Ridiculous. I know I'll get some thumbs down simply because I don't agree with homosexuality and you ALWAYS get ridiculed when you have a different opinion on this matter, but I don't care. Just as it's your right to agree with homosexuality it's my right not to.
While I disagree with you concerning homosexuality (which is fine), I do agree when it comes to teaching about marriage in school for any reason. The problem is, most parents are entirely negligent when it comes to teaching their children about social issues, either because they're embarassed by them or "don't have time".
You're right that is a problem. A big one. I was fortunate to have a mom who didn't feel it was "taboo" to speak of certain social issues and my husband and I have been the same w/ our son. I want to thank you for not attacking me about my difference of opinion like so many others would have done. It's nice to know there are people who can agree to disagree and still treat each other with civility. Thank you.
Wait, are you teaching your son that homosexuality is wrong? Because it doesn't matter how open you are, that sort of teaching, almost indoctrination really, is kind of ridiculous.
What I was saying was that parents should be teaching their children about marriage. I have explained homosexuality to my son and yes I disagree with it. It goes against what I believe, BUT just as I have the right to believe it is morally wrong, you have the right to believe it is not. I do believe in the right for someone to do as they wish it's none of my business what type of relationship someone else is in. It's perfectly fine to agree to disagree.
@freelily36 so you dont agree with it just means your kids wouldnt go.I'm sure you'd probly pull kids from class anyway once you found out teacher was gay. but funny u want to tell other parents teach their kids
@serges64 She'd probably pull them out when she found out they were teaching Darwins theory as well... Becasue some book written two millenia ago knows better than the scientific research of the past few centuries.
@freelily36 You're right. It's also your right to determine whether killing children is right or wrong. Just because you have the right to say it's okay to kill children, it doesn't make you any less of an idiot to believe as such.
@freelily36 The parents were given the option to opt their kids out of the field trip, and two parents chose to do so. Just like with evolution, you are given a right to opt your kids out of lessons you feel may clash with your personal beliefs. I strongly disagree with your opinion on homosexuals but I respect your right to your opinion. However, opinions are not laws. People are people and they all deserve the same rights.
You may be right but, let me say I don't agree with this either way. Straight marriage or not, it's not the school's responsibility to teach my children about marriage it's MY responsibility.
Um did the kids drive there? No. Did the school drive them there? No. It was their parents who took them there! Same-sex marriage is legal in 7 countries. Soon Argentina, Uruguay, Iceland, Portugal, Denmark and Slovenia will legalize same-sex marriage. If you don't want to hear or know of same sex marriage go move to a cave...in Antartica. You anti same-sex marriage will be defeated on the long run and you know it. Stop your Neo-Nazi Agenda.
It was a political ploy. I doubt that the children that young actually think about marriage. It should be the parents job to teach morality. Cuz if the parent teaches the child then the child can make his own decision, but in a school there is peer pressure and alienation if they don't agree.
I want the schools to stop using our kids as pawns in the political chess games of adults.
Schools should design a curriculum based on academic subjects, not political agendas. Then they should teach all kids the skills our kids need to go on to college.
When schools have proven they can teach all the kids to read, maybe then we could reopen the debate on whether the left or the right wing gets to "have" other peoples' kids for their very own game-playing....
to me this is a wonderful thing. and all schools should take the students to gay weddings. lets teach everyone that we are all equal and should be treated equal. there is nothing wrong with being gay lesbian bisexual transgender or straight. we are who we are we are born this way its not a choice. i myself am bisexual.
Parents to the children who went on this feildtrip,had the option to opt out their kids from the feildtrip,and two kids were opted out from it.Several parents have went out publicly and comfirmed that they indeed had the possibility to opt their kids out of the feild trip.According to the "opt out" law,parents have and will still have the right to opt their kids out of classes,wether gay marriage is leagal or not.Using lies to keep one group of people segregated from everyone else is wrong.
I honestly don't have a problem with these kids being invited to their teachers wedding, regardless of who they married. If the parents want to allow their kids to go to their teachers wedding i have NO problem with it. I'd let my kid go.
This was a wonderful idea. A way to end tthe stereotypes and hatreds and influence of the just plain ignorantis who go around professing their love for a God who hates.
Bravo. Enough of this sort of thing, and this BS will end And these right wing churches will become museums to just another example of mans inhumanity to other man (and women)
And that's where your argument falls apart. They reportedly checked with the parents, and they were fine with it.
If you think that a gay wedding is worse than a straight wedding for kids to be attending, please get your head out of your ass and we can have a discussion.
Here's the difference though - it's not being taught that it's necessarily "okay."
It's being taught that it exists.
And I think we can all agree that the public school system (funded by gay taxes, too) needs to do everything it can to stop discrimination, by teaching that homosexuality does exist and is not something to ridicule someone about.
Now, if you're against that, you'll be happy to know that you keep your rights as a parent even with gay marriage legalized.
What exactly is wrong with my "lifestyle"? Its perfectly okay, and I'm glad those children got to see that wedding. WE EXIST NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DISLIKE THAT. We always will, and actually even more people will come out, because its becoming the norm... We are not staying in the closet anymore.... And we will get married. Last time I checked we were EQUAL, NOT SEPERATE BUT EQUAL!
What exactly is not natural about it? HUH? I do the same things in the bedroom as you.... And don't even try to deny that. We love the same, and for you to say children shouldn't be able to witness that love is quite rude. Kids should be introduced at an early age, to ACCEPT people, and to be tolerable. So we don't have more people like yourself on our hands...Peoples perceptions of gays are changing, towards the right direction. Its only a matter of time... I can wait.
Not natural? It's found in nature, even animals have been shown to be gay, have you even read ONE scientific report on it?(no, of course not.. science is of the devil!)
ok thats not true dude..... i am a proud christain and i do NOT discrimante agaist lesbains or gays or bisexuals..... you are the one discriminating! so you can shut the hell up dude
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Okay well mother fucker don't start shit with someone you don't know bitch, I was talking to someone else not you so mind your fucking business nigga and stay the fuck outta mine.
Really, this whole mishap is the fault of the school, and people decided to take what they can from it and use it to condemn the act instead of the people in charge of the act. Since when was marriage directly a part of the school curriculum? Sure slap a school code talking about "healthy attitudes" on me. I've already read it. If they're debating on who should be teaching homosexual marriage, heterosexual marriage should not be taught and enforced in school either as the optimal relationship.
The parents accompanied them. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words..."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance to all human life.
Tolerance. Really. So where is the tolerance for people who don't agree with this lifestyle?
Tolerance has come to mean acceptance of any behavior as the price of friendship and respect.
You can show love and respect toward those who you disagree with, that is what schools should be teaching. Leave sensitive issues about sexuality up to parents to teach, it is their right as parents.
We should not be tolerant of intolerance. That is why people don't go around calling people niggers all day if they are racist. That is why people are free to practice what religion they choose. That is why there are laws in place to protect minorities. That is why, eventually, this matter will be looked upon as a very side time in history when intolerance beats down a minority. Gay people exist and children need to be aware of it. Some parents will not teach their children about gay couples.
The field trip on school time was inapproiate use of time. I agree with the reporter that if the couple wanted the children there for their marriage ceremony, then it should have been done on their personal time, not during school hours.
Wow. Some parents don't sign permission slips for field trips to the zoo or the local swimming pool. Is it the school's fault? Is the school ostracizing those children due to their parents' obvious dislike of zoos and swimming pools?
No.. your argument is BS.. you're comparing apples to buses. The reason the childrens' parents didn't allow them to go is because they didn't want their children indoctrinated with something that went against their values? Basically, your argument would make if completely acceptable to take a group of six year olds on a field trip to a porno film studio because it's a "teachable moment". Ridiculous.
I'm attacking the relevance of blondie's argument. I am making no argument myself. Redutio ad absurdum. She claims that kids staying home from a field trip is ostracism. Gay marriage is not to blame for field trip ostracism. Her argument is irrelevant. She could have picked any number of other things to attack, but she didn't. Whether or not I am in favor of same sex marriage, her argument is not a good one. That's all I was saying with my comment, though I support equal rights for all.
The parents KNEW their kids were going to a gay wedding.
The parents had to sign permission slips so the kids could go see their teacher get married. Two children's parents didn't want their kids to go, so those kids stayed at school.
I think that is wonderful, better to teach love rather than hate to children.
alwayson09 1 month ago
It's very common for a teacher's students to come to his or her wedding. If it were a straight couple, no one would have said anything. It's time that people come to realize that all marriages are equal.
theopenmind05 2 months ago
Personally...i dont think she should of brought her school kids tot her marriage.....its just not apart of school....same-sex marriage or straight marriage.....soo...i mean ok great teaching kids about Tolerance but..seriously...i dont think they should go to a dang wedding...thats dumb..i know i may get thumbs down..but....i maybe wrong...oh well.
maxgagaone 2 months ago
This is total political indoctrination, no doubt about it. I'm not opposed to gay marriage but this topic really does not belong in school, it is controversial and has nothing to do with education. Some parents are opposed to the idea of gay marriage, I support gay rights/marriage, but I also understand parents get to make the decisions regarding the values their family will embrace until their kids are adults and can come to their own conclusions. This does not belong in schools.
911insidejo8 6 months ago
My first grade teacher was a female and she got married to a man; not to another woman!
nanlisa 7 months ago
Sorry. I meant that I"m tired of you people forcing your liberal views and immoral lifestyles on me!
nanlisa 7 months ago
America has become another Sodom and Gomorrah! She needs to turn back to God and the Christian principles on which she was founded!
I don't care if you give me a thumbs down! I don't care if you call me a homophobe or that I"m intolerant! I'm standing up for what's right and what's wrong! I'm 53 years old. I'm old-fashioned, and I'm proud of it! You say that you get tired of Christians forcing their beliefs on you. Well I'm tired of forcing your immoral lifestyles on me!
nanlisa 7 months ago
Aimcrew: I don't care if it's 2011! God's laws don't change. Marriage is still between one man and one woman, and that's the bottom line. God's word is still the same in 2011 as it was back in Moses' time!
When I was in first grade back in the 60's, my class went to my teacher's wedding; and it was to a man; not a woman!
nanlisa 7 months ago
This is stupid it WAS UP TO THE PARENTS...thats WHY TWO KIDS DID NOT GO...and as for them being left out they will be just fine...lots of kids dont go to every "field trip"...and they turn out just fine...the media I swear...
aubreywho 7 months ago
This is sick! If I were a parent, I would take my child out of that classroom and put him or her in a Catholic or Christian school! I'd also confront the teacher about this immoral lifestyle that she is teaching her children!
Marriage is between a man and a woman only! God created Adam and Eve; not Adam and Steve or Eve and Eve. The Book of Leviticus says that man shall not lie with mankind and that woman shall not lie with womankind.
That teacher should be fired for this! What a disgrace!
nanlisa 7 months ago
@nanlisa God created Adam, Steve, Eve, Eva, Nanlisa etc etc. They all have the right to get married. There are more books than only leviticus. Open your eyes and mind. I feel like I'm talking to an aboriginal. Those times had past. We are living in 2011, even the bones of Moses doesn't exist anymore.
almcrew 7 months ago
Last comments, I'm sory. XD
Kids get left behind on field trips ALL. THE. TIME.
PocketSizedOwlHikari 8 months ago
Another issue: Why would they bring up it being "political indoctrination" to the kids with an election on gay marriage coming up? The kids can't vote anyway, and the parents already have their own views.
PocketSizedOwlHikari 8 months ago
She invited her students to come, and they didn't HAVE to come. If their parents didn't want them to go, they didn't have to.
And why are they getting mad at these kids being "excluded"? Do they have ANY idea of how many kids are excluded because of how they look and when people think they're gay?
PocketSizedOwlHikari 8 months ago
I found this argument the newscasters having completely ridiculous. Are they even aware of the mass amount of field trips that elementary school kids are assigned to go to that are religion or church based? I even remember a class that was bible study, and only TWO kids didn't go to that class EVERY DAY. And it WAS NOT a catholic or religious private school. It disgusts me that they did not acknowledge that whatsoever.
TheTraviful 9 months ago
Young innocent children should never be expposed to the nasty concept of homosexual marriage!!!
ThePeachRules 9 months ago
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ThePeachRules 9 months ago
Err. I think the title isn't correct. It's not a field trip, their teacher was marrying and she invited her students to her wedding. Is that so weird? Would it be any better if it was a hetero marriage? It is just my opinion of course everyone has their own opinion.
peace. x.
MagiSofVideos 10 months ago
This makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah all you idiots out there can thumbs down me but I don't care. When would any children be taken to a wedding for a field trip? Never. It's just a stupid ploy by the teacher who had his/her own political agenda. Let kids be kids. They live for what's fun, not to be on the receiving end of a political bukkake that you fuck faces force down their throats.
helmut4lyfe 10 months ago 2
Well why not? Schools used to take kids to slaughterhouses to see where meat comes from, but now that's way too "offensive" ewh...people are wimps nowadays and it's because kids aren't exposed to the world and we are too afraid of making kids feel like "outcasts". I all the feild trips should be mandatory. If the parents object, the kid can just deal with a failing grade for that assignment.
CamillaCalamity 1 year ago
This is ridiculous. These kids don't need to be exposed to this sick, perverted bullshit. Kids need to be taught what they can use (reading, wirting arithmetic), and not be exposed to this teacher's deviant, unnatural and abnormal lifestyle. I don't blame the two kids' parents for not allowing their kids to go to that wedding. Men going with men and women going with women is not natural nor normal.
groundhog713 1 year ago
@groundhog713 How is naturality relevant? Grandparents across America are living off of unnatural medication. Violence is a natural instinct of humans. Are you going to argue the former is bad but the latter is good? Your ramblings make no sense and your paranoia less so.
poolerboy0077 1 year ago
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rtdeems 1 year ago
Can't wait for Judgement Day!
TheK1969 1 year ago
I saw the spinning Fox News sign and was thinking....this can't be good.
CrazyRsQuester 1 year ago 4
Whether it's the parents or the teachers task to teach children about marriage is a question without a correct answer. I know parents and teachers that aren't fit to teach much more than a specialized field. Some of them are posting on this video...
AholeAtheist 1 year ago
im so sick of the news promoting homophobia, I'm sure the 2 kids who's parents didnt let them go. were not made to feel bad. all the others their parents let them go.If it had been a straight christian wedding & the 2 kids who didnt go were jewish or another religon. no one would say a word about it.. Also are we suppose to cancell all field trips if a few cant go on trip cause there is always a few who can't
serges64 1 year ago 2
The title is wrong it should read first grades go to there teachers wedding, that's it, she told the kids she was getting married and they expressed an intrest in going. This teacher probably love her kids and want them there. The fact that she is marrying a woman instead of a man makes little difference. The people that are trying to paint this as an attempt to indoctrinate the kids is being dishonest, should we really expect any different form the religious right and fox news at this point.
fireflygirl246 1 year ago 2
@fireflygirl246 Right on.
Discipline for the school?! How bout some discipline for Fox news for bad journalism? In fact you can't even call it journalism it's so full of opinion and right wing rhetoric.
AholeAtheist 1 year ago
What educational purpose does this field trip serve??
VitalSigns1 1 year ago
@VitalSigns1 Teach kids equality and to be tolerant of other peoples’ lives. Truthfully I cannot believe the balls on that school, but gj anyway school.
njnick17 1 year ago
POLITICAL INDOCTRINATION. HUURR DURR. NO SHIT THATS WHAT THIS IS. Why dont you people take them to a STRAIGHT wedding huhh? What, would that be INTOLERANT? KEEP KIDS OUT OF POLITICS.
NorCalHunterGuy916 1 year ago
@NorCalHunterGuy916 It's not just about politics it's about HUMAN BEINGS, treating all human beings like you'd want to be treated.
jessicakennon 1 year ago
I don't care what your views are, you have no right to indoctrinate kids. If they would have been taken to an anti-gay trip then everyone would be pissed... but OH NO! since it's THEIR view it's ok!... NO!!! This is absurd! No matter what side you support you can't support this and support free thought of liberals! A TRUE liberal would not allow this!
I support LGBTQ rights btw
YoungIvyScholar 1 year ago
@YoungIvyScholar So where no suppose to teach are kids to be accepting of people who do no harm to anyone else. Really? Also please don’t use the “no true Scotsman fallacy” to attempt to make some vague meaningless point.
njnick17 1 year ago
there's really nothing controversial here, i for one don't even see why that one woman felt the need to bring up tolerance, it isn't political at all, here's what happened: there was a field trip, they sent out permission slips all but 2 of the kids' parents signed the permission slips, it was the parents' decision from beginning to end, like any other field trip
Marlowe3488 1 year ago
This is very wrong and the democraps need to pay for forcing this issue upon USA! One Big Ass Mistake America = OBAMA!
carribbeandreams2004 1 year ago
Who cares if the kids feel left out. That's the parents fault and there's no one to blame except them. Bottom line.
camaseutra 1 year ago
They really are missing the point!!!
They DID put it up to the parents to educate the kids about gay marriage, by giving them the option to let the 'excluded' kids go on the trip! It's like saying ''There are two kids in the class NOT making their communion, so they're left out and excluded''.
chinn11 1 year ago
@chinn11 i think schools don't need to be left or right or w/e all schools should be independent and unbiased and let the kids (when they're older and more mature) decide for themselves if being gay is wrong or right
nukester 1 year ago
@nukester
I just think think that you are lucky in America to experience stuff like this in schools. Here, the government leaves the schools in the hands of the catholic church, leaving them in a terrible state (watch?v=j04i9ZKE1TU). And homosexuality, divorce and condoms were ALL illegal when I was born.
chinn11 1 year ago
if this was a heterosexual wedding, this would not be happening. kids will learn about homosexual's as they grow up, I say this is great. PARENTS let them go obviously.
PaulSkinny 1 year ago
is this bad? ppl who think this is bad are really mentally retarded.
TranceAnton 1 year ago
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Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Bakazuraz 1 year ago
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Bakazuraz 1 year ago 3
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They didn't give a shit about gay marriage, or their teacher. They just don't want to be in class.
chinn11 1 year ago
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Bakazuraz 1 year ago
Can they even hear themselves talk? The PARENTS decided the kids couldn't go. Just like ANY field trip, the parents have to sign a permission slip to allow their child to go. And if the parents don't sign? Like ANY other field trip, the kids can't go. People don't fuss about kid's being "ostracized" if their parents didn't sign the slip to let them go to camp or the museum.
Stop saying "the kids that didn't want to go." They are 1st graders. They just want to see their teacher's wedding.
Bakazuraz 1 year ago
Kids should celebrate at any wedding Gay Marriage, or Straight Marriage.
jusitke07 1 year ago 2
celesbians lol
DJBrokenHigh 1 year ago
Of course it is wrong to take young students to any type of wedding. The fact that this was a gay wedding is why they got so much attention. And frankly that is just what this teacher and the gay community were aiming for, publicity and recognition. School is a place to learn math, history, sciences, etc. Parents are responsible for teaching their kids about love and marriage, definitely not some gay teacher.
diehippiedie100 2 years ago
Is it wrong then to take children to a heterosexual wedding?
enzedbrit 2 years ago
@enzedbrit During school hours, yes it is.
YoungIvyScholar 1 year ago
This is awful. Since when was it the job of schools to teach children about marriage any way? I certainly didn't learn that in school. That's MY job, a parent. There is no place for this in school. Ridiculous. I know I'll get some thumbs down simply because I don't agree with homosexuality and you ALWAYS get ridiculed when you have a different opinion on this matter, but I don't care. Just as it's your right to agree with homosexuality it's my right not to.
freelily36 2 years ago 5
While I disagree with you concerning homosexuality (which is fine), I do agree when it comes to teaching about marriage in school for any reason. The problem is, most parents are entirely negligent when it comes to teaching their children about social issues, either because they're embarassed by them or "don't have time".
Tammylita 2 years ago
You're right that is a problem. A big one. I was fortunate to have a mom who didn't feel it was "taboo" to speak of certain social issues and my husband and I have been the same w/ our son. I want to thank you for not attacking me about my difference of opinion like so many others would have done. It's nice to know there are people who can agree to disagree and still treat each other with civility. Thank you.
freelily36 2 years ago
Wait, are you teaching your son that homosexuality is wrong? Because it doesn't matter how open you are, that sort of teaching, almost indoctrination really, is kind of ridiculous.
lucas27 2 years ago
What I was saying was that parents should be teaching their children about marriage. I have explained homosexuality to my son and yes I disagree with it. It goes against what I believe, BUT just as I have the right to believe it is morally wrong, you have the right to believe it is not. I do believe in the right for someone to do as they wish it's none of my business what type of relationship someone else is in. It's perfectly fine to agree to disagree.
freelily36 2 years ago
I totally agree with you.
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serges64 1 year ago
@freelily36 so you dont agree with it just means your kids wouldnt go.I'm sure you'd probly pull kids from class anyway once you found out teacher was gay. but funny u want to tell other parents teach their kids
serges64 1 year ago
@serges64 She'd probably pull them out when she found out they were teaching Darwins theory as well... Becasue some book written two millenia ago knows better than the scientific research of the past few centuries.
AholeAtheist 1 year ago
@freelily36 You're right. It's also your right to determine whether killing children is right or wrong. Just because you have the right to say it's okay to kill children, it doesn't make you any less of an idiot to believe as such.
IE. You're an idiot.
TheTraviful 9 months ago
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Really so he is an idiot because he thinks being gay is not ok.
Flatbushe21 9 months ago
@Flatbushe21 Yup. That's what I'm implying.
Just how if you say not being black is not okay.
Do you have the right to believe that? Sure, why the hell not.
Still makes you an ignorant idiot.
TheTraviful 9 months ago
@freelily36 The parents were given the option to opt their kids out of the field trip, and two parents chose to do so. Just like with evolution, you are given a right to opt your kids out of lessons you feel may clash with your personal beliefs. I strongly disagree with your opinion on homosexuals but I respect your right to your opinion. However, opinions are not laws. People are people and they all deserve the same rights.
shmalpie 4 months ago
If it was a straight marriage it wouldn't even make new.
Tammylita 2 years ago
You may be right but, let me say I don't agree with this either way. Straight marriage or not, it's not the school's responsibility to teach my children about marriage it's MY responsibility.
freelily36 2 years ago
Um did the kids drive there? No. Did the school drive them there? No. It was their parents who took them there! Same-sex marriage is legal in 7 countries. Soon Argentina, Uruguay, Iceland, Portugal, Denmark and Slovenia will legalize same-sex marriage. If you don't want to hear or know of same sex marriage go move to a cave...in Antartica. You anti same-sex marriage will be defeated on the long run and you know it. Stop your Neo-Nazi Agenda.
muellerican 2 years ago
Okay, the whole thing is lame. Even if she was straight ... a field trip to a wedding? Lame!
finzlington 2 years ago
Good point. Thous were my thoughts too when I watchd this vid!!!
sigurrosgirl 2 years ago
of course San Fransisco ...
duneranger 2 years ago
It was a political ploy. I doubt that the children that young actually think about marriage. It should be the parents job to teach morality. Cuz if the parent teaches the child then the child can make his own decision, but in a school there is peer pressure and alienation if they don't agree.
ParrHolden 2 years ago
I want the schools to stop using our kids as pawns in the political chess games of adults.
Schools should design a curriculum based on academic subjects, not political agendas. Then they should teach all kids the skills our kids need to go on to college.
When schools have proven they can teach all the kids to read, maybe then we could reopen the debate on whether the left or the right wing gets to "have" other peoples' kids for their very own game-playing....
barrilixx 2 years ago
to me this is a wonderful thing. and all schools should take the students to gay weddings. lets teach everyone that we are all equal and should be treated equal. there is nothing wrong with being gay lesbian bisexual transgender or straight. we are who we are we are born this way its not a choice. i myself am bisexual.
jesusfreak95301 2 years ago
gays are not equal to straight people.
Diatonic135 2 years ago
wow, says jesusfreak.... kind of an oxymoron..?
Shelenator1 2 years ago
Parents to the children who went on this feildtrip,had the option to opt out their kids from the feildtrip,and two kids were opted out from it.Several parents have went out publicly and comfirmed that they indeed had the possibility to opt their kids out of the feild trip.According to the "opt out" law,parents have and will still have the right to opt their kids out of classes,wether gay marriage is leagal or not.Using lies to keep one group of people segregated from everyone else is wrong.
oxoxMusicxisxlifexox 2 years ago
If ethnic minorities are discriminated against, it's racism. If homosexuals are discriminated against, it's just 'political'. Weird...
Todt79 2 years ago 8
i'm gay and i'm not afraid to say i am!
xoEmilyTheStrange 2 years ago
lmao so cute
prowork 2 years ago
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I honestly don't have a problem with these kids being invited to their teachers wedding, regardless of who they married. If the parents want to allow their kids to go to their teachers wedding i have NO problem with it. I'd let my kid go.
sarakai 2 years ago
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the whole school should've gone
ladderladder283 2 years ago
Wow, Shrilly McShrillster in the pink shirt there.
calliopezhang11 2 years ago
Fail.
krafdinner 2 years ago
I think they took the kids to throw flowers at them becuase no one else would be there to do it.
EmotionalButNotEmo 3 years ago 2
Im glad our school doesnt make us go to things like this.
EmotionalButNotEmo 3 years ago
This was a wonderful idea. A way to end tthe stereotypes and hatreds and influence of the just plain ignorantis who go around professing their love for a God who hates.
Bravo. Enough of this sort of thing, and this BS will end And these right wing churches will become museums to just another example of mans inhumanity to other man (and women)
lookseeme21 3 years ago
GOD help the next generation
Benjaminreyesjr 3 years ago 3
yes, help the next generation not be so bigoted like the last generation
blackmetalqueer 3 years ago 3
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@Benjaminreyesjr are you suggesting this was bad?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
(that was directed towards xTHUNDERGALOREx)
Njlove050296 3 years ago
Ooooh no! people are dying in Iraq and this is the headline news for you??
Republicans for you....
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
discusting i cant believe this crap actually happens
99988743 3 years ago
You mean the love that these kids have for their teachers, plain and simple?
Or rather, the hate that Fox shows towards different views than their own?
svenarvidtadhg 3 years ago
the school has no business taking kids to a wedding,espicially a gay wedding.
99988743 3 years ago
And that's where your argument falls apart. They reportedly checked with the parents, and they were fine with it.
If you think that a gay wedding is worse than a straight wedding for kids to be attending, please get your head out of your ass and we can have a discussion.
svenarvidtadhg 3 years ago
homosexuality has no business being shown to children in school,theres alot of people against it,i dont want my my kids thinking its an ok lifestyle.
99988743 3 years ago
Here's the difference though - it's not being taught that it's necessarily "okay."
It's being taught that it exists.
And I think we can all agree that the public school system (funded by gay taxes, too) needs to do everything it can to stop discrimination, by teaching that homosexuality does exist and is not something to ridicule someone about.
Now, if you're against that, you'll be happy to know that you keep your rights as a parent even with gay marriage legalized.
svenarvidtadhg 3 years ago
What exactly is wrong with my "lifestyle"? Its perfectly okay, and I'm glad those children got to see that wedding. WE EXIST NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU DISLIKE THAT. We always will, and actually even more people will come out, because its becoming the norm... We are not staying in the closet anymore.... And we will get married. Last time I checked we were EQUAL, NOT SEPERATE BUT EQUAL!
zozotennisfreak 3 years ago
its not natural
99988743 3 years ago
What exactly is not natural about it? HUH? I do the same things in the bedroom as you.... And don't even try to deny that. We love the same, and for you to say children shouldn't be able to witness that love is quite rude. Kids should be introduced at an early age, to ACCEPT people, and to be tolerable. So we don't have more people like yourself on our hands...Peoples perceptions of gays are changing, towards the right direction. Its only a matter of time... I can wait.
zozotennisfreak 3 years ago
Not natural? It's found in nature, even animals have been shown to be gay, have you even read ONE scientific report on it?(no, of course not.. science is of the devil!)
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
so should we copy what animals do?
99988743 3 years ago
Jesus, you Christians come up with ANY excuse to discriminate against people who are different from you.
We have animal instincts, those instincts are NATURAL. So, in effect, in some people.. being gay is a NATURAL instinct.
BTW I'm atheist, so don't use the bible bullshit on me.
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
dont tell me homosexuality it natural
99988743 3 years ago
Oh, but it is. Is discriminating against homosexuals natural, or is it learned?
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
no it is not, its sodomy.
99988743 3 years ago
You didn't answer my question.
Straight couples also do it up the ass, smart one.
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
anyone who has sex that way is discusting,thats meant for waste to come out.
99988743 3 years ago
Well obviously it had a dual purpose :)
Okay, so what do you say to homosexuals that don't have anal?
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
its all sick
99988743 3 years ago
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Okay, this is pointless. You're and idiot and nothing can change that.
Go have sex with the bible. k thx
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
ok thats not true dude..... i am a proud christain and i do NOT discrimante agaist lesbains or gays or bisexuals..... you are the one discriminating! so you can shut the hell up dude
Njlove050296 3 years ago
Okay, well I then I wasn't fucking talking to you, was I?
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
did i ever say you were? no i didn't so you can shut the hell up
Njlove050296 3 years ago
Oh, okay yet you started talking shit to me out of the blue, i love your logic. Go fuck yourself. k thx
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
well you started talking shit to all chistains out of the blue. so u can also go fuck your self. have a nice life
Njlove050296 3 years ago
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Okay well mother fucker don't start shit with someone you don't know bitch, I was talking to someone else not you so mind your fucking business nigga and stay the fuck outta mine.
xTHUNDERGALOREx 3 years ago
i dont give a shit who you were talkin to bitch. im done with this shit
Njlove050296 3 years ago
Well we do. All the time. Why should this matter be any different?
sammehwhoreface 3 years ago
I agree with you 110% 99988743.
EmotionalButNotEmo 3 years ago
Really, this whole mishap is the fault of the school, and people decided to take what they can from it and use it to condemn the act instead of the people in charge of the act. Since when was marriage directly a part of the school curriculum? Sure slap a school code talking about "healthy attitudes" on me. I've already read it. If they're debating on who should be teaching homosexual marriage, heterosexual marriage should not be taught and enforced in school either as the optimal relationship.
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romopo 3 years ago
OK kiddos let's go to a field trip study history. OK here we are at the Socialist Forum, pay extra attention to what Karl Marx Jr. has to say.
slinkys 3 years ago
haha. perfect. and if you have anything to say against it YOUR A HOMOPHOBE.
talk about freedom....
i love the american dream.... when i'm asleep like the rest of the sheep
dontcallmyhousenomo 3 years ago
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The parents accompanied them. If you don't agree with marriage equality, don't marry someone of the same sex! As a school teacher, I don't ever recall reading/citing the words..."with liberty and justice for ALL" and seeing the word, "except". Separate but equal does not, has not and should not work. We can not "eenie meenie miney moe" through our neighborhoods and point to who is allowed marriage or not. As a christian and American, I am for equality, love, and acceptance to all human life.
StephanieKansas 3 years ago
Tolerance. Really. So where is the tolerance for people who don't agree with this lifestyle?
Tolerance has come to mean acceptance of any behavior as the price of friendship and respect.
You can show love and respect toward those who you disagree with, that is what schools should be teaching. Leave sensitive issues about sexuality up to parents to teach, it is their right as parents.
singingjen 3 years ago
We should not be tolerant of intolerance. That is why people don't go around calling people niggers all day if they are racist. That is why people are free to practice what religion they choose. That is why there are laws in place to protect minorities. That is why, eventually, this matter will be looked upon as a very side time in history when intolerance beats down a minority. Gay people exist and children need to be aware of it. Some parents will not teach their children about gay couples.
sammehwhoreface 3 years ago
The field trip on school time was inapproiate use of time. I agree with the reporter that if the couple wanted the children there for their marriage ceremony, then it should have been done on their personal time, not during school hours.
LibertyLibby 3 years ago
Wow. Some parents don't sign permission slips for field trips to the zoo or the local swimming pool. Is it the school's fault? Is the school ostracizing those children due to their parents' obvious dislike of zoos and swimming pools?
What a BS argument.
HarryPlusDraco 3 years ago
No.. your argument is BS.. you're comparing apples to buses. The reason the childrens' parents didn't allow them to go is because they didn't want their children indoctrinated with something that went against their values? Basically, your argument would make if completely acceptable to take a group of six year olds on a field trip to a porno film studio because it's a "teachable moment". Ridiculous.
RavenHursT4real 3 years ago
I'm attacking the relevance of blondie's argument. I am making no argument myself. Redutio ad absurdum. She claims that kids staying home from a field trip is ostracism. Gay marriage is not to blame for field trip ostracism. Her argument is irrelevant. She could have picked any number of other things to attack, but she didn't. Whether or not I am in favor of same sex marriage, her argument is not a good one. That's all I was saying with my comment, though I support equal rights for all.
HarryPlusDraco 3 years ago
The parents KNEW their kids were going to a gay wedding.
The parents had to sign permission slips so the kids could go see their teacher get married. Two children's parents didn't want their kids to go, so those kids stayed at school.
Felidaise 3 years ago 2
WOW this changes the game...
CognitivelyDiverse 3 years ago
Not true the parents weren't notified. You need to read the entire issue.
vslone123 3 years ago
I know!! that is so crazy.
All you NO supporters out there, sorry but this will make Prop 8 pass. YOU BLEW IT!!!
TrueBluePonies 3 years ago