decca said "this guys have not talent at all,this guys will never make it" and they changed music history. most famous rejection of all the time. the beatles left decca with their mouths open after they became the most famous and greatest band of all time.
First of all, nice, that you noticed my comment on Norman Chapman.
But like I've already said a million times; after listening to all the possible material and trying to be as objective as possible, I still find Ringo a lot better drummer in every aspect to Pete.
However; in an intererview Horst Fascher had the same idea as you about Epstein. I found it possible too, that mr. Eppy himself wanted to be the only manager of The Beatles!
Great comment below on Norman Chapman...poor guy, had the break of all time being discovered by John, Paul and George while pounding the drums and then the unlucky moment of all time when he was about the last person drafted in the British army.
Unfortunately truth is mean; based on these Decca sessions, the Polydor sessions and the Radio Bristol tapes Ringo was better in every sense and I've tried to be as bojective as possible. If I would find something to defend Pete, I would defenitely do that. And he talks this today and something else tomorrow like I've told in these discussions.
And how would you feel your ex-bandmate calling you a liar (like Pete has about the others) for years?
And the late Lennon-McCartney too, doing a pretty good job!
Besides, according to Philip Norman seriously considered hiring Ringo as a session drummer for Polydor, the most leading record company in the continental Europe at the time!
Interesting. They sound OK - not world class. The drumming quality (or lack) shows most on Memphis. George shows more of his own vocal personality on Memphis than he does for a long, long time. Doesn't work well for that tune, though. I think the mellow stuff like "Anna go to him" would go well with George's voice, The vocals on "To know her..." aren't nearly a sharp as they are on the BBC tapes. I think Peet's drumming works OK on that that tune, though.
This sounds less like the Beatles than the stuff they did with Tony Sheridan a year earlier. It's as if they were holding back to be more "polite" - and just ended up sounding bland.No wonder they didn't get signed. They sound like any other third rate band on this recording.
@westbankal You are right to some degree, but a combination of very cold weather (it was a bad January day, actually New Year's Day if memory serves from many read-ups) and nerves took the edge of their performance. Don't forget, Money was a rocker of a song, but it don't come out rockin' on this. But for all that, I still like the session.
@TheDiddlysquat there is an interview record where ringo denied that pete tried to sue him
a few years ago, pete best did a show at a local bar in san jose california (bar closed down)
i remember seeing a news clip (in either the 80's or 90's) which both interviewed Ringo and "Pete Best" (in parking lots) -all the publications claimed Pete was last seen working as a baker, and pete best confirmed in an interview (in a beard) that albert goldman got it right when they tried to mug a sailor
@MichaelHansenFUN - Pete tells the story about him and John mugging the sailor in his DVD about the early days with the group. As for being a baker, actually his job was loading slicing bread and loading it onto delivery trucks ... he didn't do this for very long. He became a civil servant and worked in an employment department for the government for about 20 years (until the late 1980s).
@TheDiddlysquat - How about defamation of character? A major publication prints a quote from Ringo Starr implying that Pete was a drug user ... this could have seriously affected Pete's ability to get a decent job. The fact that you couldn't think of this yourself is bewildering. You may not believe this was the reason, but you said the only thing you could think of for Pete's motive was cash.
@TheDiddlysquat - " it would have been difficult for ringo to take the time out" ... now that's just plain silly. The case was filed in 1965 & it was settled FOUR years later: PLENTY of time. Seems like Ringo/The Beatles wanted to cut their losses and be done with it ... and chalk it up to a careless thing to say ... because they couldn't prove it. Seems if Pete had really be habitually absent, there would have been an ample # of witnesses that could have supported Ringo's position.
@TheDiddlysquat - and yet when Ringo mentioned this in a 1965 Playboy interview, Pete sued and it was settled out of court (January 1969) ... so you could say he won the case, because what was said was not true.
@TheDiddlysquat - Pete has NEVER admitted that he was "often ill". In fact, he said that in 2 years he only missed 4 performances due to illness. Also, he was not in "several bands in the 1960s that flopped" ... after the Beatles he was in Lee Curtis & the All Stars, which then broke off from Curtis and became Pete Best & the All Stars. Pete later relocated to the U.S. and started The Pete Best Four, then changed the name to The Pete Best Combo. That's TWO bands. You fabricate & exaggerate!
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Check Pete Best's drumming with Lee Curtis & The All Stars and Pete Best Four. And if someone is saying that they used sessiondrummer, then we can say that they used session drummer or Paul Mccartney on the tracks where Ringo is ''playing''...
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About EINSTEINS..! Here are a lot of einsteins who are mocking Pete Best's drumming abilities. They are saying that he played like they played normal back then, is it bad then? And his technique is a bit different than the ''normal'' drumming those days. It's his style, so sod off those who don't believe it. You don't have ears? The Decca-session is more near punk-rock than your precious hippie-sgt.pepper, so sure it's different.
I have to admit that IMHO I feel that if THIS had been their first album instead of Please Please Me, they probably would have gone by the wayside...the material on PPM is so much stronger...
These Decca recordings are so wierd and stilted. It sounds like they're trying to sound like someone else - the guy on the record etc. It's like they're afraid to sound like themselves. I think George Martin figured this out. He wanted to get the way they sounded in clubs and even planned at one point to record their first album live in a club. His fall back was the 'whole album in a day' recording session to get their real live performance sound.
@guruuDev If you compare the Live at Star Club in December 1962 to their studio things, the live performances were much more powerful than the recordings with GM. I consider myself Please Please Me is their best work, it has a bit of that live feel in it. But still far away from the live performances.
@tauroscorp The Beatle had multiple phases - with every album its own masterpiece - but I must admit that Live at Star Club is stunning. It's a whole other phase -distinct from all the rest - of the band playing in an ideal live context. Thank goodness it was recorded.
It's too bad, the Star Club era was the last time they got to play marathon sets night after night and to an intimate live audience not yet caught up in their fame.
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The drumming on this recording is technically very good - but can we be sure, with the normal practice of the time being to use session drummers in the studio, that this is Pete Best?
Not sure why there are so many comments complaining that the drumming is out of time or doesn't fit or the tempo drifts. Maybe some people are commenting on what they would have liked to have heard to fit their point of view, rather than what is actually on the record...
I've been listening to these Decca audition tapes for years. Just wanted to chime in that Lennon screaming out "Money" was like a beacon of light among the rest of this mediocre material. Simply unbelievable. With the exception of the awesome '62 Star Club tapes, my guess is that this version of "Money" is the only surviving evidence of what the 'real' pre-Fab Four actually sounded like.
@TheDiddlysquat Ted is still with us, I did my last gig with him and Lee in 2005, in Herford. There were talks of Ringo joining him, and he was also responsible for the famous taping of the Beatles live in the Star Club Dec 1962. He is here on You Tube occasionaly.
@TheDiddlysquat Sorry, just realised how my memory is going. It was of course the other way round, Gerry was a Top Ten Club man, not Star Club. sorry for getting things mixed up.
@TheDiddlysquat Can´t remember Gerry playing in "The Top Ten", did remember them in the Star club. Tony I´ve met quite a few times, he came over to Hamburg after he left !! Oh Boy. It really was, the best time to be alive, I´m now pushing 70, but the fifties and sixties seem to keep us all young. Two of the best loved musicians in Hamburg by the way, Ted "King Size" Taylor and Lee Curtis also never made it really big.
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@TheDiddlysquat I was lucky enough to play on the same bill as Pete a few times, one of which was the opening of the "Star Club" Bielefeld. As I said, he certainly wasn´t a brilliant drummer, but technically he was better than Ringo. One more point, what would have happened to Ringo, if he had stayed with Rory?
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@TheDiddlysquat Don´t really get your point. In the early sixties, the Beatles were to start with 5, and then 4 young men who were just interested in sex drugs alcohol and rock and roll. Lennon and McCartney were, even then, very talented lyricists and composers. Stu was amazingly artistic, and would have possibly become famous in his own right as an artist. After their recording contract, George got better and better as lead guitarist, and even Ringo became a better drummer.
@TheDiddlysquat (further to my comment) which Paul didn´t like at all. A lot has been written about the Beatles, and a lot has been said in interviews, by people around them, and by the Beatles themselves, but you should still, maybe, ask people who were there !!
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@TheDiddlysquat I was in germany in the army in 1960, and spent many weekends in Hamburg in Indra and Kaiserkeller. In all this time I never saw Ringo Starr sit in for Pete Best, he couldn´t, at the time he was playing with the Hurricanes, and they had enough gigs in Liverpool and Germany as a whole. In the sixties Ringo was a very mediocre drummer, and although Pete wasn´t a Gene Krupa or Buddy Rich, he was technically better. Pete Best was the most popular in Hamburg, especially with the girls
Interesting that the song selection begins with Macca singing lead. He songs raw and very good, but seems to be trying to imitate someone else from the 50's (i.e. Elvis). Lennon on the other hand had more of a unique style, albeit not as much range as Macca. Lennon however had a good falsetto and a rougher lower range than Macca. Besides the song selection, the drums seem to be very generic (sorry Pete). Maybe that is the real reason that Pete was cut loose....
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@mattclarida I disagree man. I think Pete Best was more skilled than Ringo. However this is not the best comparison since this is a Live audition done in one single take. Ringo´s Money was recorded with all the studio advantages.
@PERROMALDO There are plenty of live examples of Ringo's drumming (especially Money which was a live staple) as well as the BBC tapes which were live where he clearly put's Pete to shame. Compare the BBC "Sure to Fall" with the Decca version, or the Pete version of "Love Me Do" to Ringo's version. Not sure what Pete is doing with Money here or Till There Was You. He made poor choices as a drummer and couldn't keep time. Ringo did, had more varied styles and was a rock solid time-keeper.
Supposedly Brian Epstein came up with the performance list. Things happen for a reason and this wasn't meant to be. It HAD to be the four that became the Fab Four.
@unlikeanyotherhuman Doesn't matter what era of music you played professionally, Pete wasn't as good as you make him seem. Hence him getting fired and being replaced with Ringo. Pete was fired, get over it.
@tauroscorp right...that's probably the reason why Ringo ended up being the Beatles' drummer. Because "Ringo wasn't better than Pete." Please make more sense.
@tauroscorp I've studied the beatles in a couple of courses as a freshman in college, i've done my research. I'm a huge fan of the beatles. Don't tell me what I need to do. Seems like you're just living in the past, get over the fact that pete was fired. If he was better than Ringo, he would've been their drummer. But he wasn't.
@tauroscorp if history wasn't "official," it wouldn't be accurate or real. So I'm sorry for not studying the Beatles' unofficial history. I'm not interested in wasting my time in things that never were. I'd rather take my professor's word on it, seeing as though he, and his colleagues, have lived through it. I don't know you, you have no credibility, so you aren't going to change anyone's mind. And I know I won't change your mind, but I know I'm right.
@Pato0919 So you believe everything your dear professors are telling you? You have a lack to think critical I see... Like suicide-bombers are believing what their dear mullahs are saying to them... Where are your brains..? I believe more the people who were part of the history, not with them who had read it from the books...
@tauroscorp they haven't given me any reason for me not to believe them. seems to me professors in accredited universities have more credibility than you do. you're just an anonymous voice on the internet trying to justify your misguided beliefs. you still don't make sense, read what i wrote: my professors have lived through it and are teaching directly from experience. they were part of the history, not teaching from the books. next time you decide to break out the keyboard, argue better.
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@Pato0919 Excuse me what..!? =D Are you a bit naive..? Or did your professors saw The Beatles live in Hamburg and Liverpool between the years 1960-1962? Have they seen Pete Best and Ringo Starr playing drums back in that period? So give me now some credibility!
@tauroscorp damn.i dont want to insult you.but are you seriously doing this again? READ what im writing. im telling you that they lived through it. as in they've heard pete best and ringo starr on drums. the point of an argument is to convince the other person to try and believe what you believe. since you're not stating anything that i can take seriously, you aren't getting a point across. like i said before, you aren't going to change my mind and i'm not going to change yours. leave it at that
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@Pato0919 No, damn YOU! I asked if they saw them live in the years 1960-62. Can't you read or are you just an idiot? Your professor saw the or not at that period??? I know that your colleges in USA can be quite shitty. Look for Lee Curtis & The Allstars Let's Stomp and Pete Best Four's Knocking On Your Door, yor professors can't say by that that PB was bad.
@tauroscorp check this out little fella..what's this entire idiotic argument turned into? whether or not my profs have listened to pete best in his time with the beatles. He played during 60-62. PLEASE read what i wrote again "my professors have lived through it and are teaching directly from experience." i know this quasi-enthymeme may trick you into believing otherwise but they heard him play. I dont care what you say because the fact is pete best wasn't good enough for the beatles, ringo was.
@Pato0919 The question in the end was about have they seen them both live. Look, little fella... If your college-system is shite, it's not my problem. No wonder that nowadays the warfear of the yanks suck. So I say to you this: a lot of loon, a load of bollox!
@tauroscorp what you're saying is a load of bollox. why are you even bringing up U.S. warfare? has that anything to do with this argument? how will talking about warfare bolster your argument? it doesn't. you're too simpleminded to formulate an eloquent response because you have no good response. i'll say it once more, my profs have both seen them live. they've told me reasons why pete didn't stay with the band. at the end of the day history is history, and ringo was ultimately the drummer.
@Pato0919 Ok, sorry, the war has nothing to do with it. =) But you also should to be more critical. I doubt that your professors have seen them live in Liverpool or Hamburg in 1960-62, if they are americans. You should also listen what the scene back in Liverpool and Hamburg have to say. I'm not saying that Ringo is bad, he's good, but Pete Best was also good. They just had a bit different styles. Ringo had more chemistry with the others than Pete, especially with Paul and George.
@Pato0919 The question in the end was about have they seen them both live. Look, little fella... If your college-system is shite, it's not my problem. No wonder that nowadays the warfear of the yanks suck, if they have such einsteins as soldiers. So I say to you this: a lot of loon, a load of bollox!
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@Pato0919 I´ll have to agree with the other guy. I´ve listened carefully to the early recordings and I think that Pete was better than Ringo. Of course you cannot compare Early Beatles tapes to Abbey Road or Let It Be when they all became better musicians due to their experience. But comparing the very early recordings of the two of ´em, I´d vote for Pete. And I think Ringo is great! But Pete was more skilled. Maybe he wasn´t good on stage or he was an asshole. But as a drummer I´d choose him.
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@riverdale999 Ringo wasn't better, you must remember that the Decca-audition was on New Years Day and the lads had a hangover because of it. Pete is good enough, particular on this song. I guess in beginning they handled with the hangover but after that time to time not so well.
I was reading that Decca turned down The Beatles after hearing these tapes, saying that "they had no future in music." What a FAIL on the studio's part.
@bombaci08 well brian poole and the tremelos had loads of hits in the 1960s, i think decca made a mistake but i dont think they were that bothered as they had so many big groups on the label anyway
But there are a few factors contributing to the Beatles failure. First of all, it was right after New Year's Eve. The Beatles weren't exacty the most disiplined in the world if you know what I mean lol. And, Brian Epstein picked their songs. He didn't let thm play Rock and Roll, it was almost all pop standards.
@kapnzach You hit it right on the head, on both counts. The result sounds like a good cover band for weddings. Totally flat. I'd have passed on them too.
George martin refused to record with Pete on drums. He gives nothing but praise for Ringo. Also if you want an excellent Pete/Ringo comparison just listen to "Money" here and then Ringo's version with the Beatles. You will then see why the Beatles prefered Ringo. He has that then rare heavyhanded backbeat and STYLE. His tempo was also ROCK SOLID. Ringo was (among non-drummers) always underrated. A shame really as his backbeat changed the way drummers played Rock n Roll.
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When George Martin asked Pete to make a drum-solo (Dont know if you call it that in English) he later said that he was almost certain that Ringo never would have managed it either!
The Beatles neither needed or wanted a drummer that was into solos. Ringo's work on the Star Club in 1962 tape and the BBC tapes demonstrates his true ability unrestricted by the confines of The Beatle's 2-3 min pop song machine.
True, but when they actually got a record deal, they knew they had to replace him with a drummer that could keep the tempo going. Which is why they fired him and got Ringo.
Pete's tempo was off. The drummer is basically the heart of the band. And with the drummer not being able to be on tempo, well it throws off the whole band making them sound bad.
I don't know whether or not Ringo was that much more of a fantastic drummer than Pete was but he could keep the tempo going and had good rhythm making him a better choice.
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it definitely wasn't of and he shows some stick skills Ringo couldn't have even dreamed of. They were playing 8 hour shows in germany with pete. Had he been a bad drummer, he would've got fired a lot earlier.
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I honestly don't know, but that wasn't the point. The point is, that they played A LOT with pete without firing him, thus the whole 'he didn't fit the image' story seems more plausible.
@wladwlad It's been suggested that Pete was the most resistant to giving up the leather image and going with the suits haircuts. Never did have a "beatle" cut
WaistDeepInBigMuddy, thanks for this wonderful upload! 9 Stars! This Decca Session sounds good to me.
The Beatles sound was fresh & new. Very different than what we were listening to on the radio.
Where were you in '62?
I was listening to Roses Are Red - Bobby Vinton; Let's Twist Again - Chubby Checker; Johnny Angel - Shelley Fabares; The Loco-Motion - Little Eva; Soldier Boy - Shirelles; Duke Of Earl - Gene Chandler
Melchersson, yes I think "Like dreamers do" would have been a hit-record. It's got the fidelity that sounds like A.M. radio from '62. It may not have made the top 10 in all the markets. Might have been a hit in various regions of the U.S.A. There were lots of great records back in 1962 that were hits in, for example, the San Francisco Bay Area but didn't make the radio surveys in Peoria. I'd have bought "Like Dreamers Do".
Having heard the sessions through about 5 X, it is clear that the micro positioning on the drums was clearly not ideal.Too much focus on the Hi-hat,
maybe intentionally to soften things up and produce a more sweeter studio sound?Nowhere near the forcefull rythmic sound of the Hamburg live sessions or Polydor recordings.
And those bandwagoners who constantly slate Pete's drumming,would probably argue that Ringo even made a better cup of coffee than Pete.
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You are right, Pete wasn't a bad drummer and not worse than Ringo. I think sacking him was of personal things and chemistries. Maby his face was too pretty... =)
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as I just said George Martin years later said he was almost certain that Ringo wouldn´t have managed some of the things he asked Pete to play, either!
@Melchersson pete best gets more credit than he deserved, he got in the band due to him being a rich kid and the beatles could practice in the cafe under pete best,s house.
John lennon gets more respect than mc cartney who was far more sucsessful and wrote a lot more stuff
I'm sure I used to have the Decca Tapes on album somewhere but some of the songs on here I have never heard before. Where did you get these from? Thanks for posting :D
@dtrocks05 Yeah men.. Absolutely..... EINSTEIN should have keep going with his science instead of getting into the music business. He did a much better job with theory of relativity than choosing the Beatles songs.
I love Ringo! But its still feels kind of sad that Pete was kicked out of the band in that way. I think he would have done well if he never been sacked. He´s got great charisma as well as Ringo. Three Beatles are still alive Paul, Ringo and Pete!
pete best was kicked out willingly from the band. because he refused to wear the "mop-top" and the gray colarless suits (they had 50's like hair and leather jackets then) so he left
decca said "this guys have not talent at all,this guys will never make it" and they changed music history. most famous rejection of all the time. the beatles left decca with their mouths open after they became the most famous and greatest band of all time.
sergiocable 1 week ago
I love the irony that last October, so close to the 50th anniversary of this audition, Paul McCartney FINALLY released an album on the Decca label!
azapro911 4 weeks ago
Hello Badfinger1974!
First of all, nice, that you noticed my comment on Norman Chapman.
But like I've already said a million times; after listening to all the possible material and trying to be as objective as possible, I still find Ringo a lot better drummer in every aspect to Pete.
However; in an intererview Horst Fascher had the same idea as you about Epstein. I found it possible too, that mr. Eppy himself wanted to be the only manager of The Beatles!
All the best
Jukka
jrahde 1 month ago
i think this is better money version than it was in with the beatles
passiize1 1 month ago
"To Know Her Is To Love Her" should have been used on Beatles For Sale
michaelaussie1 1 month ago
Great comment below on Norman Chapman...poor guy, had the break of all time being discovered by John, Paul and George while pounding the drums and then the unlucky moment of all time when he was about the last person drafted in the British army.
Badfinger1974 1 month ago
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What do you all think of the new theory that Best was ousted by Epstein, who couldn't handle Mona Best anymore?
Badfinger1974 1 month ago
Ringo was the beat in the Beatles!
MrScieman 3 months ago 8
@MrScieman Very true... although this is not ringo playing... it's pete best.
urwholefamilydied 1 month ago
@urwholefamilydied which, I think, is MrScieman's point.
WisMiss101 1 month ago
Still the best R&R Group in history! Imho.
cep32101 3 months ago
Hello egolas35653!
Unfortunately truth is mean; based on these Decca sessions, the Polydor sessions and the Radio Bristol tapes Ringo was better in every sense and I've tried to be as bojective as possible. If I would find something to defend Pete, I would defenitely do that. And he talks this today and something else tomorrow like I've told in these discussions.
And how would you feel your ex-bandmate calling you a liar (like Pete has about the others) for years?
All the best
Jrahde
jrahde 3 months ago
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Why are you guys being so mean to pete , imagine if he actually read this ,
legolas35653 3 months ago
Hello once again, wladwlad!
And the late Lennon-McCartney too, doing a pretty good job!
Besides, according to Philip Norman seriously considered hiring Ringo as a session drummer for Polydor, the most leading record company in the continental Europe at the time!
All the best
Jukka
jrahde 6 months ago
Hello wladwlad!
Well, in the Beatles records Ringo played; 1950's classics, early Lennon-McCartney, country, folk, soul, blues and jazz.
Based on these tapes and records here Pete could only play the 1950s and 1960s classics and even them pretty awkwardly in general...
All the best
Jrahde
jrahde 6 months ago
Hello vazquezagustin!
Well, to be quite honest; when I've listened to these records and tapes, I have to say, that Ringo was better in every sense.
But if Norman Chapman hadn't been drafted, we probably wouldn't have these discussions.
Since; after the army he played rock and jazz at the Cavern..
I know something about drumming and jazz is more difficult than rock...
All the best
Jrahde
jrahde 6 months ago
PETE WAS THE BEST BUT RINGO A STAR
vazquezagustin 6 months ago
Hardly the same without Ringo
SuperBenjo97 7 months ago
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In what world was ringo more creative?!
wladwlad 7 months ago
In my opinion, the simple drumming is what makes these songs good. Like Dreamers Do is so catchy.
KiraNeko 7 months ago
Interesting. They sound OK - not world class. The drumming quality (or lack) shows most on Memphis. George shows more of his own vocal personality on Memphis than he does for a long, long time. Doesn't work well for that tune, though. I think the mellow stuff like "Anna go to him" would go well with George's voice, The vocals on "To know her..." aren't nearly a sharp as they are on the BBC tapes. I think Peet's drumming works OK on that that tune, though.
MickeyYahoo 7 months ago
MicaelHansenFUN
only reason he signed the Stones was because George Harrison suggested it.
firsto1011 8 months ago
Hello you all!
The reason, why Pete Best became a part of the Beatles saga, is, that Norman Chapman got drafted and Paul hastedly hired the first drummer available!
All the best
Jrahde
jrahde 9 months ago
Guitar groups are on the way IN
909afterone 9 months ago
Face it---PETE SUCKS.
tman10003 9 months ago 2
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Them fools I would of signed them in seconds
TheBeatlesTime 10 months ago
This sounds less like the Beatles than the stuff they did with Tony Sheridan a year earlier. It's as if they were holding back to be more "polite" - and just ended up sounding bland.No wonder they didn't get signed. They sound like any other third rate band on this recording.
westbankal 11 months ago
@westbankal Im knocked out with the 'live' vocal performances.
stormcats2 10 months ago
@westbankal You are right to some degree, but a combination of very cold weather (it was a bad January day, actually New Year's Day if memory serves from many read-ups) and nerves took the edge of their performance. Don't forget, Money was a rocker of a song, but it don't come out rockin' on this. But for all that, I still like the session.
Joshua12345 8 months ago
the man who rejected the beatles went on to sign the rolling stones
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
To Know Her Is To Love Her COVERED BY BON SCOTT OF AC/DC
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat there is an interview record where ringo denied that pete tried to sue him
a few years ago, pete best did a show at a local bar in san jose california (bar closed down)
i remember seeing a news clip (in either the 80's or 90's) which both interviewed Ringo and "Pete Best" (in parking lots) -all the publications claimed Pete was last seen working as a baker, and pete best confirmed in an interview (in a beard) that albert goldman got it right when they tried to mug a sailor
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
@MichaelHansenFUN - Pete tells the story about him and John mugging the sailor in his DVD about the early days with the group. As for being a baker, actually his job was loading slicing bread and loading it onto delivery trucks ... he didn't do this for very long. He became a civil servant and worked in an employment department for the government for about 20 years (until the late 1980s).
mkrobinson95 11 months ago
albert goldmans book claims paul sings in a voice that cries out for nasal inhailer
kinda sounds like it
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat - How about defamation of character? A major publication prints a quote from Ringo Starr implying that Pete was a drug user ... this could have seriously affected Pete's ability to get a decent job. The fact that you couldn't think of this yourself is bewildering. You may not believe this was the reason, but you said the only thing you could think of for Pete's motive was cash.
mkrobinson95 11 months ago
@mkrobinson95 any info on pete and ringo lawsuit is new news to me
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat - " it would have been difficult for ringo to take the time out" ... now that's just plain silly. The case was filed in 1965 & it was settled FOUR years later: PLENTY of time. Seems like Ringo/The Beatles wanted to cut their losses and be done with it ... and chalk it up to a careless thing to say ... because they couldn't prove it. Seems if Pete had really be habitually absent, there would have been an ample # of witnesses that could have supported Ringo's position.
mkrobinson95 1 year ago
@TheDiddlysquat - and yet when Ringo mentioned this in a 1965 Playboy interview, Pete sued and it was settled out of court (January 1969) ... so you could say he won the case, because what was said was not true.
mkrobinson95 1 year ago
@mkrobinson95 i have an interview album that ringo is denying peter tried to sue him
MichaelHansenFUN 11 months ago
@TheDiddlysquat - Pete has NEVER admitted that he was "often ill". In fact, he said that in 2 years he only missed 4 performances due to illness. Also, he was not in "several bands in the 1960s that flopped" ... after the Beatles he was in Lee Curtis & the All Stars, which then broke off from Curtis and became Pete Best & the All Stars. Pete later relocated to the U.S. and started The Pete Best Four, then changed the name to The Pete Best Combo. That's TWO bands. You fabricate & exaggerate!
mkrobinson95 1 year ago
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John Lennon was asked in a interview was Ringo the best drummer in the world and he said he was;nt the best drummer in the band
MrJoelalcasey1971 1 year ago
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Check Pete Best's drumming with Lee Curtis & The All Stars and Pete Best Four. And if someone is saying that they used sessiondrummer, then we can say that they used session drummer or Paul Mccartney on the tracks where Ringo is ''playing''...
tauroscorp 1 year ago
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About EINSTEINS..! Here are a lot of einsteins who are mocking Pete Best's drumming abilities. They are saying that he played like they played normal back then, is it bad then? And his technique is a bit different than the ''normal'' drumming those days. It's his style, so sod off those who don't believe it. You don't have ears? The Decca-session is more near punk-rock than your precious hippie-sgt.pepper, so sure it's different.
tauroscorp 1 year ago
I have to admit that IMHO I feel that if THIS had been their first album instead of Please Please Me, they probably would have gone by the wayside...the material on PPM is so much stronger...
Ricoustic101 1 year ago
Decca is probably still kicking their own ass
PanaceaSJBR 1 year ago
C'mon,man, without George Martin The Beatles sounds like shit, thank god for George, he turned crap into gold
truedude86 1 year ago
These Decca recordings are so wierd and stilted. It sounds like they're trying to sound like someone else - the guy on the record etc. It's like they're afraid to sound like themselves. I think George Martin figured this out. He wanted to get the way they sounded in clubs and even planned at one point to record their first album live in a club. His fall back was the 'whole album in a day' recording session to get their real live performance sound.
guruuDev 1 year ago
@guruuDev If you compare the Live at Star Club in December 1962 to their studio things, the live performances were much more powerful than the recordings with GM. I consider myself Please Please Me is their best work, it has a bit of that live feel in it. But still far away from the live performances.
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp The Beatle had multiple phases - with every album its own masterpiece - but I must admit that Live at Star Club is stunning. It's a whole other phase -distinct from all the rest - of the band playing in an ideal live context. Thank goodness it was recorded.
It's too bad, the Star Club era was the last time they got to play marathon sets night after night and to an intimate live audience not yet caught up in their fame.
guruuDev 1 year ago
Who's singing the 3rd song?
Stube437 1 year ago
@Stube437 I think it's John singing... George and Paul are probably doing harmonies (Right?)
MrGraytuna 1 year ago
@MrGraytuna Paul is singing lead. Cheers
phlpsvll 1 year ago
paul sounds weird on the first song.
Stube437 1 year ago
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The drumming on this recording is technically very good - but can we be sure, with the normal practice of the time being to use session drummers in the studio, that this is Pete Best?
Not sure why there are so many comments complaining that the drumming is out of time or doesn't fit or the tempo drifts. Maybe some people are commenting on what they would have liked to have heard to fit their point of view, rather than what is actually on the record...
SAHBfan 1 year ago
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I've been listening to these Decca audition tapes for years. Just wanted to chime in that Lennon screaming out "Money" was like a beacon of light among the rest of this mediocre material. Simply unbelievable. With the exception of the awesome '62 Star Club tapes, my guess is that this version of "Money" is the only surviving evidence of what the 'real' pre-Fab Four actually sounded like.
AJJKRRR 1 year ago
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AJJKRRR 1 year ago
Sorry, but petes drumming is unamaginative and basic, so Ringo was the right choce. for the band. end of.
biggeral64 1 year ago 9
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@biggeral64 Like I´ve said before, you obviously never heard Starr 59/60
altersachse 1 year ago
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@biggeral64 John Lennon himself said "Pete is a good drummer. Ringo is a good Beatle" a well documented quote.
GonzoGuyy 11 months ago
The only one I don't really like is money but the others r great!!! How could u not sign them!
theemmers15 1 year ago
@TheDiddlysquat Ted is still with us, I did my last gig with him and Lee in 2005, in Herford. There were talks of Ringo joining him, and he was also responsible for the famous taping of the Beatles live in the Star Club Dec 1962. He is here on You Tube occasionaly.
altersachse 1 year ago
@TheDiddlysquat Sorry, just realised how my memory is going. It was of course the other way round, Gerry was a Top Ten Club man, not Star Club. sorry for getting things mixed up.
altersachse 1 year ago
@TheDiddlysquat Can´t remember Gerry playing in "The Top Ten", did remember them in the Star club. Tony I´ve met quite a few times, he came over to Hamburg after he left !! Oh Boy. It really was, the best time to be alive, I´m now pushing 70, but the fifties and sixties seem to keep us all young. Two of the best loved musicians in Hamburg by the way, Ted "King Size" Taylor and Lee Curtis also never made it really big.
altersachse 1 year ago
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@TheDiddlysquat I was lucky enough to play on the same bill as Pete a few times, one of which was the opening of the "Star Club" Bielefeld. As I said, he certainly wasn´t a brilliant drummer, but technically he was better than Ringo. One more point, what would have happened to Ringo, if he had stayed with Rory?
altersachse 1 year ago
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@TheDiddlysquat Don´t really get your point. In the early sixties, the Beatles were to start with 5, and then 4 young men who were just interested in sex drugs alcohol and rock and roll. Lennon and McCartney were, even then, very talented lyricists and composers. Stu was amazingly artistic, and would have possibly become famous in his own right as an artist. After their recording contract, George got better and better as lead guitarist, and even Ringo became a better drummer.
altersachse 1 year ago
@TheDiddlysquat (further to my comment) which Paul didn´t like at all. A lot has been written about the Beatles, and a lot has been said in interviews, by people around them, and by the Beatles themselves, but you should still, maybe, ask people who were there !!
altersachse 1 year ago
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@TheDiddlysquat I was in germany in the army in 1960, and spent many weekends in Hamburg in Indra and Kaiserkeller. In all this time I never saw Ringo Starr sit in for Pete Best, he couldn´t, at the time he was playing with the Hurricanes, and they had enough gigs in Liverpool and Germany as a whole. In the sixties Ringo was a very mediocre drummer, and although Pete wasn´t a Gene Krupa or Buddy Rich, he was technically better. Pete Best was the most popular in Hamburg, especially with the girls
altersachse 1 year ago
@TheDiddlysquat Rubbish !!
altersachse 1 year ago
TheDiddlysquat, it would be great if Decca Audition is released as album :D
TheOneBeatleManiac 1 year ago
TheDiddlysquat, because they weren't signed yet.
TheOneBeatleManiac 1 year ago
whoo I want this album
jonnytheoasisfan 1 year ago
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Great perfomance...I think that Pete was as good as Ringo. Both played really good.
MrJovasss 1 year ago
Drums don't fit in thats why ringo was so good the style fit the beatles music.
sparkytrick 1 year ago
the first song sounds boring, but Money is quite them already - perhaps because they did it later. Wonder what the Decca men where thinking
wojiaokatya 1 year ago
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can see no particular fault with pete's drumming
wojiaokatya 1 year ago
Interesting that the song selection begins with Macca singing lead. He songs raw and very good, but seems to be trying to imitate someone else from the 50's (i.e. Elvis). Lennon on the other hand had more of a unique style, albeit not as much range as Macca. Lennon however had a good falsetto and a rougher lower range than Macca. Besides the song selection, the drums seem to be very generic (sorry Pete). Maybe that is the real reason that Pete was cut loose....
Charleybones 1 year ago
if you want to compare ringo and peat, compare the drums on this version of money to when ringo played on the later version.
no contest. ringo wins
mattclarida 1 year ago
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@mattclarida I disagree man. I think Pete Best was more skilled than Ringo. However this is not the best comparison since this is a Live audition done in one single take. Ringo´s Money was recorded with all the studio advantages.
PERROMALDO 1 year ago
@PERROMALDO There are plenty of live examples of Ringo's drumming (especially Money which was a live staple) as well as the BBC tapes which were live where he clearly put's Pete to shame. Compare the BBC "Sure to Fall" with the Decca version, or the Pete version of "Love Me Do" to Ringo's version. Not sure what Pete is doing with Money here or Till There Was You. He made poor choices as a drummer and couldn't keep time. Ringo did, had more varied styles and was a rock solid time-keeper.
AppleCorp3 1 year ago 11
Supposedly Brian Epstein came up with the performance list. Things happen for a reason and this wasn't meant to be. It HAD to be the four that became the Fab Four.
AllenOption8 1 year ago
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Pete Best was a good drummer but an arrogant guy, that's the reason why Ringo came in. He completed the fab 4.
brrbrr1963 1 year ago
john Lennon's voice on the track, "Money" sounds so nasaly and young-ish. Kind of when they recorded "please Please me".
dubbly1 1 year ago
@unlikeanyotherhuman Doesn't matter what era of music you played professionally, Pete wasn't as good as you make him seem. Hence him getting fired and being replaced with Ringo. Pete was fired, get over it.
Pato0919 1 year ago
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@Pato0919 Ringo wasn't better than Pete.
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp right...that's probably the reason why Ringo ended up being the Beatles' drummer. Because "Ringo wasn't better than Pete." Please make more sense.
Pato0919 1 year ago 3
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@Pato0919 You find it out if you just make some research... Sick'n'tired of people who don't know what that talk about... =)
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp I've studied the beatles in a couple of courses as a freshman in college, i've done my research. I'm a huge fan of the beatles. Don't tell me what I need to do. Seems like you're just living in the past, get over the fact that pete was fired. If he was better than Ringo, he would've been their drummer. But he wasn't.
Pato0919 1 year ago 2
@Pato0919 So perhaps you studied the ''official'' history of Beatles..? So you ignore all the witnes about the case..?
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp if history wasn't "official," it wouldn't be accurate or real. So I'm sorry for not studying the Beatles' unofficial history. I'm not interested in wasting my time in things that never were. I'd rather take my professor's word on it, seeing as though he, and his colleagues, have lived through it. I don't know you, you have no credibility, so you aren't going to change anyone's mind. And I know I won't change your mind, but I know I'm right.
Pato0919 1 year ago
@Pato0919 So you believe everything your dear professors are telling you? You have a lack to think critical I see... Like suicide-bombers are believing what their dear mullahs are saying to them... Where are your brains..? I believe more the people who were part of the history, not with them who had read it from the books...
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp they haven't given me any reason for me not to believe them. seems to me professors in accredited universities have more credibility than you do. you're just an anonymous voice on the internet trying to justify your misguided beliefs. you still don't make sense, read what i wrote: my professors have lived through it and are teaching directly from experience. they were part of the history, not teaching from the books. next time you decide to break out the keyboard, argue better.
Pato0919 1 year ago
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@Pato0919 Excuse me what..!? =D Are you a bit naive..? Or did your professors saw The Beatles live in Hamburg and Liverpool between the years 1960-1962? Have they seen Pete Best and Ringo Starr playing drums back in that period? So give me now some credibility!
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp damn.i dont want to insult you.but are you seriously doing this again? READ what im writing. im telling you that they lived through it. as in they've heard pete best and ringo starr on drums. the point of an argument is to convince the other person to try and believe what you believe. since you're not stating anything that i can take seriously, you aren't getting a point across. like i said before, you aren't going to change my mind and i'm not going to change yours. leave it at that
Pato0919 1 year ago
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@Pato0919 No, damn YOU! I asked if they saw them live in the years 1960-62. Can't you read or are you just an idiot? Your professor saw the or not at that period??? I know that your colleges in USA can be quite shitty. Look for Lee Curtis & The Allstars Let's Stomp and Pete Best Four's Knocking On Your Door, yor professors can't say by that that PB was bad.
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp check this out little fella..what's this entire idiotic argument turned into? whether or not my profs have listened to pete best in his time with the beatles. He played during 60-62. PLEASE read what i wrote again "my professors have lived through it and are teaching directly from experience." i know this quasi-enthymeme may trick you into believing otherwise but they heard him play. I dont care what you say because the fact is pete best wasn't good enough for the beatles, ringo was.
Pato0919 1 year ago
@Pato0919 The question in the end was about have they seen them both live. Look, little fella... If your college-system is shite, it's not my problem. No wonder that nowadays the warfear of the yanks suck. So I say to you this: a lot of loon, a load of bollox!
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@tauroscorp what you're saying is a load of bollox. why are you even bringing up U.S. warfare? has that anything to do with this argument? how will talking about warfare bolster your argument? it doesn't. you're too simpleminded to formulate an eloquent response because you have no good response. i'll say it once more, my profs have both seen them live. they've told me reasons why pete didn't stay with the band. at the end of the day history is history, and ringo was ultimately the drummer.
Pato0919 1 year ago
@Pato0919 Ok, sorry, the war has nothing to do with it. =) But you also should to be more critical. I doubt that your professors have seen them live in Liverpool or Hamburg in 1960-62, if they are americans. You should also listen what the scene back in Liverpool and Hamburg have to say. I'm not saying that Ringo is bad, he's good, but Pete Best was also good. They just had a bit different styles. Ringo had more chemistry with the others than Pete, especially with Paul and George.
tauroscorp 1 year ago
@Pato0919 The question in the end was about have they seen them both live. Look, little fella... If your college-system is shite, it's not my problem. No wonder that nowadays the warfear of the yanks suck, if they have such einsteins as soldiers. So I say to you this: a lot of loon, a load of bollox!
tauroscorp 1 year ago
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@Pato0919 I´ll have to agree with the other guy. I´ve listened carefully to the early recordings and I think that Pete was better than Ringo. Of course you cannot compare Early Beatles tapes to Abbey Road or Let It Be when they all became better musicians due to their experience. But comparing the very early recordings of the two of ´em, I´d vote for Pete. And I think Ringo is great! But Pete was more skilled. Maybe he wasn´t good on stage or he was an asshole. But as a drummer I´d choose him.
PERROMALDO 1 year ago
The first song, Like Dreamers Do, was sang by McCartney.
The second song, Money, was sang by Lennon.
The third song, To Know Her Is To Love Her, also Lennon.
The fourth song, Memphis, once again, Lennon.
TheOneBeatleManiac 1 year ago
Can someone tell me who sings the last two songs???
nairegui 1 year ago
nairegui, it's Lennon on the last 3 songs of this part.
TheOneBeatleManiac 1 year ago
who sings the last two songs???
nairegui 1 year ago
@nairegui Tony Sheriadan
fastd16civic 1 year ago
Who sings the third song???
nairegui 1 year ago
Yep. Ringo was better.
riverdale999 1 year ago 4
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@riverdale999 Ringo wasn't better, you must remember that the Decca-audition was on New Years Day and the lads had a hangover because of it. Pete is good enough, particular on this song. I guess in beginning they handled with the hangover but after that time to time not so well.
timotastic 1 year ago
i like this version of money better than their "famous" version
bkthin 1 year ago
I was reading that Decca turned down The Beatles after hearing these tapes, saying that "they had no future in music." What a FAIL on the studio's part.
jeezmeldc 1 year ago
Lennon did a rockin' version of Money...Decca suits missed the talent..they booted it
deeferamoringo 1 year ago
Decca Tapes! Nem sei como a gravadora não detonou quando viram o erro que fizeram!
MusicTimeMedia 1 year ago
money sound diffrent
legolas35653 1 year ago
@bombaci08 well brian poole and the tremelos had loads of hits in the 1960s, i think decca made a mistake but i dont think they were that bothered as they had so many big groups on the label anyway
racistgayclown 2 years ago
@racistgayclown Remember that they signed The Stones.
SuperGogetem 1 year ago
But there are a few factors contributing to the Beatles failure. First of all, it was right after New Year's Eve. The Beatles weren't exacty the most disiplined in the world if you know what I mean lol. And, Brian Epstein picked their songs. He didn't let thm play Rock and Roll, it was almost all pop standards.
kapnzach 2 years ago
@kapnzach You hit it right on the head, on both counts. The result sounds like a good cover band for weddings. Totally flat. I'd have passed on them too.
davroseable 2 years ago
@kapnzach
decca also thought guitar groups were out
ness4ssbb2 1 year ago
this version of Noney is rockabilly!
Flyingpig437 2 years ago
Ringo is a helleva lot easier to market the Pete....names are important
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ehk65 2 years ago
George martin refused to record with Pete on drums. He gives nothing but praise for Ringo. Also if you want an excellent Pete/Ringo comparison just listen to "Money" here and then Ringo's version with the Beatles. You will then see why the Beatles prefered Ringo. He has that then rare heavyhanded backbeat and STYLE. His tempo was also ROCK SOLID. Ringo was (among non-drummers) always underrated. A shame really as his backbeat changed the way drummers played Rock n Roll.
Ottoboy111 2 years ago 3
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When George Martin asked Pete to make a drum-solo (Dont know if you call it that in English) he later said that he was almost certain that Ringo never would have managed it either!
Melchersson 2 years ago
The Beatles neither needed or wanted a drummer that was into solos. Ringo's work on the Star Club in 1962 tape and the BBC tapes demonstrates his true ability unrestricted by the confines of The Beatle's 2-3 min pop song machine.
Ottoboy111 2 years ago
Pete sucked. His drum sound like shit. Ringo would have killed this tune,
tman10003 2 years ago
True, but when they actually got a record deal, they knew they had to replace him with a drummer that could keep the tempo going. Which is why they fired him and got Ringo.
Pato0919 2 years ago
Pete's tempo was off. The drummer is basically the heart of the band. And with the drummer not being able to be on tempo, well it throws off the whole band making them sound bad.
I don't know whether or not Ringo was that much more of a fantastic drummer than Pete was but he could keep the tempo going and had good rhythm making him a better choice.
Pato0919 2 years ago
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it definitely wasn't of and he shows some stick skills Ringo couldn't have even dreamed of. They were playing 8 hour shows in germany with pete. Had he been a bad drummer, he would've got fired a lot earlier.
wladwlad 2 years ago
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fuck him. he was a boring fucker. ha ha ha
Flyingpig437 2 years ago
Excuse me if i'm wrong, but wasn't Ringo also playing in Hamburg also, just with a different band?
wrightchix 2 years ago
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I honestly don't know, but that wasn't the point. The point is, that they played A LOT with pete without firing him, thus the whole 'he didn't fit the image' story seems more plausible.
wladwlad 2 years ago
@wladwlad It's been suggested that Pete was the most resistant to giving up the leather image and going with the suits haircuts. Never did have a "beatle" cut
spjunkie 2 years ago
i know, that's what i was talking about
wladwlad 2 years ago
yeah they were with pest best and ringo was with rory storm and the hurricanes on their third trip to hamburg the beatles were with ringo
kevinfanofthebeatles 2 years ago
@wrightchix Rory Storm and the Hurricanes were also playing Hamburg, which is where John Paul and George met Ringo who was playing with Rory
spjunkie 2 years ago
WaistDeepInBigMuddy, thanks for this wonderful upload! 9 Stars! This Decca Session sounds good to me.
The Beatles sound was fresh & new. Very different than what we were listening to on the radio.
Where were you in '62?
I was listening to Roses Are Red - Bobby Vinton; Let's Twist Again - Chubby Checker; Johnny Angel - Shelley Fabares; The Loco-Motion - Little Eva; Soldier Boy - Shirelles; Duke Of Earl - Gene Chandler
Good songs but...
The Beatles were a breath of fresh air!
61dodgelancer 2 years ago
Do you think "Like dreamers do" would have been a hit-record? If they would have released it?
Melchersson 2 years ago
Melchersson, yes I think "Like dreamers do" would have been a hit-record. It's got the fidelity that sounds like A.M. radio from '62. It may not have made the top 10 in all the markets. Might have been a hit in various regions of the U.S.A. There were lots of great records back in 1962 that were hits in, for example, the San Francisco Bay Area but didn't make the radio surveys in Peoria. I'd have bought "Like Dreamers Do".
Banghouseisaphony 2 years ago
The song would have been a top ten hit, no doubts about it!
mrtrue1000 2 years ago
nah i think gary and the pacemakers fit it better
oldstylelife 1 year ago
Nothing wrong with Pete's drumming.
Having heard the sessions through about 5 X, it is clear that the micro positioning on the drums was clearly not ideal.Too much focus on the Hi-hat,
maybe intentionally to soften things up and produce a more sweeter studio sound?Nowhere near the forcefull rythmic sound of the Hamburg live sessions or Polydor recordings.
And those bandwagoners who constantly slate Pete's drumming,would probably argue that Ringo even made a better cup of coffee than Pete.
symbolb 2 years ago
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You are right, Pete wasn't a bad drummer and not worse than Ringo. I think sacking him was of personal things and chemistries. Maby his face was too pretty... =)
timotastic 2 years ago
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as I just said George Martin years later said he was almost certain that Ringo wouldn´t have managed some of the things he asked Pete to play, either!
Melchersson 2 years ago
@Melchersson pete best gets more credit than he deserved, he got in the band due to him being a rich kid and the beatles could practice in the cafe under pete best,s house.
John lennon gets more respect than mc cartney who was far more sucsessful and wrote a lot more stuff
racistgayclown 2 years ago
@symbolb
we drink tea
ttoe 1 year ago
Without Epstein they didn't get even to Decca.
AnnnaBlank 2 years ago 3
I'm sure I used to have the Decca Tapes on album somewhere but some of the songs on here I have never heard before. Where did you get these from? Thanks for posting :D
booziesuzie 2 years ago
thank God they weren't signed by Decca in 62. They'd of been forgotten by 64.
giles422 2 years ago 18
Agree! They would have had a couple of top ten hits like "Like dreamers do" and maybe a couple of more! Then they probably give up!
George Martin gave them so much inspiration and let them use their own creative force!
Melchersson 2 years ago 2
@giles422 Very true. What makes them so great is that they evolved and were so versatile.
MTLWebDesigns 1 year ago
i do feel it was because of Einstein's choice of songs on this demo that it took him forever to get the Beatles a record deal . just my opinion .
dtrocks05 2 years ago 8
I agree about the choice of songs but are you talking about Leo, Fred or Albert Einstein?
Melchersson 2 years ago 2
sorry i meant to say Epstein s . sorry fir the incorrect spelling
dtrocks05 2 years ago
@dtrocks05 Einstein?!
Maugolek 1 year ago
@Maugolek read my last entry above yours .
dtrocks05 1 year ago
@dtrocks05 That's alright ;)
Maugolek 1 year ago
@dtrocks05
EPstein! but yeh... i think you're right...
he chose the wrong songs...
nothing that would really have set the world on fire.... sadly.
psychobollox 1 year ago
@dtrocks05
Einstein ?
Maybe Brian Epstein ?
Chimbo65 1 year ago
@dtrocks05 Epstein* xD
Waliens 1 year ago
@dtrocks05 Yeah men.. Absolutely..... EINSTEIN should have keep going with his science instead of getting into the music business. He did a much better job with theory of relativity than choosing the Beatles songs.
PERROMALDO 1 year ago 3
@dtrocks05 that's what Philip Norman also said in his book SHOUT!
wojiaokatya 1 year ago
Thank you for the upload. I finally got to hear the entire Decca Sessions that was one of the key recordings missing from my Beatles list.
MAS5346 2 years ago 2
Dick Rowe went on to sign the Stones on George Harrison's suggestion so he wasn't a total failure!
arctos7 2 years ago
I love Ringo! But its still feels kind of sad that Pete was kicked out of the band in that way. I think he would have done well if he never been sacked. He´s got great charisma as well as Ringo. Three Beatles are still alive Paul, Ringo and Pete!
Melchersson 2 years ago
what a way to ring in the new year!
Revolver8566 2 years ago
pete best was kicked out willingly from the band. because he refused to wear the "mop-top" and the gray colarless suits (they had 50's like hair and leather jackets then) so he left
Floridaboy7777 2 years ago
i dont know if they had the gray suits yet. they got those around the "she loves you" era. summer of '63.
Revolver8566