Nope, Flatjet. Having known people who have been psychotic long before any medication and become more or less normal afterward. Stop reading the missives of Scientology kept in L.Rons anal sphincter. I can tell you what the Co$ has done to psychologically disturbed members. I assume the rest of us would be treated the same. Brainwashing, mental conditoning and a few of the worst techniques used by Psych institutions in the past, which they famously claim are evil. That makes them hypoctits.
Hehe.. yeah. When I look back at the people I've met in my life and the people I *wanted* to meet, I find the lists are somewhat the same, but far more interesting when they are random in order. World leaders, governors, nutjobs of all sorts, psychotics, candidates for sainthood, folks so smarmy they'd make your back teeth ache.
What Psychotics need (other than the obvious) are better diagnostics that can tell what *real* therapies are best for them. Drugs or counseling, etc..
Having known people who have been psychotic long before any medication and become more or less normal afterward.(That is thinking about eating your brain while waring your hair)Is AnonNation one of these? ;-)
No. Real people in real life. Schizophrenics, various OCD sufferers, a few psychotic individuals. Having been a "Ritalin Kid" diagnosed with ADD when my only problem was an unmeasurable IQ (it's currently in the top 1 percentile), I became a crusader for better diagnosis for folks with mental problems. Not the cookie cutter crap most folks were clustered under. Like circumcision, there's still a lot of crap in medical/mental health systems that needs change. This *is* the 21'st century...
The real question is why do anonymous need these masks? first off they are so Paranoid of Scientology, i mean anons are so Paranoid to show there face that they need a mask hahahahaha best joke of the year!
see what Scientology does to people they know about that criticize their cult.
They constantly have scientologists trying to unmask and identify so they can harass the anonymous-- not only them, but their employer, family, friends, etc.
before you go shooting off your mouth, get your facts and know what you're arguing about.
i dont give a damn about fair game, anonymous are a bunch of cowards period. see you better think twice before shooting off your mouth and posting videos cause you never know who you are fucking with, anons always "fair Game " people all day everyday plus you cannot be anonymous member and be a christian so fuck anons.
again, you're making presumptions you know everything about the anonymous (and me)
So let me school you again, kid.
First up, its pretty selfish of you to call somebody a coward because they hide their identity for possibly the sake of keeping their own family out of the red light.
secondly, being anonymous doesn't mean you have to be a specific religion.
being anonymous means to simply have no name or face.
you asked me what will i do to the truely disturbed, well the answer is try to help them that is my true answer not taunt them and try to destroy them even more, the truly disturbed are anonymous yes anons are truely disturbed so i am only answering your question so yes i am answering your question.
Well, since you're seriously looking for a fight- I suggest you go hit up 4chan.
I asked Scientology what they plan to do with the truly disturbed, and my answer was 'they will be purged'.
That was pretty much all I needed and its a good reason to encourage the anonymous to keep their faces hidden to they won't be "destroyed" by the fair game policy.
Anyways, you're not answering my question because you're not telling me WHAT you'd do with the disturbed, you're just claiming somebody is disturbed, what are you gonna do to them? 'Purge them', too?
Anyways, you keep running your mouth.
Scientology is collapsing from the inside out and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
and don't blame it on 'religious hatred', blame it on Scientology for failing to adapt and succumbing to change.
im the subsitute teacher because the old teacher is very sick, so yeah schools back in teacher with a PHD is back, Scientology is expanding at epic proportions that has never been seen before and yeah what to do with them? well first off take them off psyc drugs, then after they go threw withdrawl then we should educate people this is the answer Bamb! A+ now you have been Fired like Donald Trump has said now go run along now i am done with you.
Holy crap! Whose your substitute brain from? A cabbage? Do they have English classes where you are? I suggest that you enrol, immediately. See if there's a class specialising in logic as well.
"Scientology is expanding like never before" Only in the emptied-headed gullible folk like you it is!
Excellent vid, JMB. You asked an important question and you kept it very focused.
I've always been interested that Scientology's goal was stated by Hubbard to be "a world without insanity, CRIMINALS and war" ("Danger: Black Dianetics!", HCOB Vol 1: The Journal of Scientology, Issues 3-G, 4-G and 5-G, 1952).
No one is arguing about their anti-science stance...
What scares me is, unlike other religions, Hubbard created a system where dissenters could be silenced, "rehabilitated" and return back to the scilon system.
their utopia is total enslavement of all mankind, leaving a few elite leaders at the top, "purging" those who won't agree with the way of life they wish to live.
I personally, enjoy my free will and would rather die resisting than live as scientology's slave.
Great video,the sound is a bit low though.You probably expected one of the "c**nt sisters" to try and answer but i guess they 'll just,as always,wuss out from questions like this.
ARCwins made himself look like a fool(again) so i personally think it was actually good that he replied. ;)
Your voice sounds way different than I imagined.. but anyhow.. major props to you and 13H as you've gotten ARCwins to say some pretty crazy things in the comments.. stuff I may need to screenshot in fact ;)
I do my best... or is that my very worst? Eeeh screw somewhere between the ends and the means it's time inspect your snares to see if you caught something juicy!
I don't even know why you're giving scum like ARCwins the time of day here, Brandon.
This is a guy who threatens you on a regular basis, fair games openly by posting people's private information, and screens all comments on his channel, only letting through posts he can actually answer so as not to be made to look like the arsehole he is.
I know you're an advocate of free speech, as am I, but that's no reason to let turds like ARCwins stink up the place with their fascist views.
Sorry Brandon, but in this particular case, I respectfully disagree with you. Letting this prick give the same hymn sheet answers we've seen time and time again will only validate his twisted and evil viewpoint that what he has to say is "important". He doesn't see what you and I see in his replies. He doesn't see how mentally ill he is. He just sees this as an opportunity to promote his criminally convicted, human rights abusing, hate group and help his stats a little.
ARCwins is trying to portray himself here as some kind of "reasonable" person, and had he conducted himself like that since day one, then I might have given him a chance and agreed that he should be allowed to give his point of view, no matter how twisted it actually is.
Hover as we both know, this guy specialises in fire & forget insults, threats, fair game, and abuse. He only conducts himself in the "sensible" manner above when it suits his purpose. He is scum. Pure and simple.
I've said my piece. I'll let the rest of you sane people deal with that nutter from here on in. The stench is too much for me here.
I respect your opinion, Teos- and I understand exactly where you are coming from.
Let it be known to all that ARCoward is nothing more than a hateful, dox dropping, cowardly, horse-shit spewing bully-
but even here, assholes have a voice, no matter how much it stinks.
I have no respect for ARCoward due to his use of intimidation tactics, and I'm glad the words that were exchanged will be useful to CD if nothing else.
Yes we do and we try to share this with as many people as we can. I have conducted many audits and I have seen the progress people make for the better even if our critics don't agree with us.
Again, come to Phoenix and I audit you and lets see what we can do for you.
I'm not dodging your question. First of all, each audit is specific and you can't hypothetical answer a problem if you don't even know that parameters. Again, you can audit and subsequently cure the person but it will require a face-to-face session.
Even if this is not satisfactory to you, even a psychiatrist can do better because not even he will make a plan to cure the person based on few known factors.
Why do you think the auditor may not be in control of the situation? I'm not sure if you have been audited in your life and if at what level but the auditor would be fine and could act before such event.
Uuuh ARC.. it was rumored? You know better than to perpetuate rumors. I'm also curious as to what media you're referencing. I put more reliance in the words of the ex-scientologists view of that one.. They were quick to put the blame on L11.
They indicated that L11 can be very dangerous, even a small mistake in the process can cause a person to have a complete break down, either immediately or over time.
"it has been rumored in the media that he was involved in Anonymous"
You talk a lot of bullshit, ARC (that's in between your pathetic threats of course).
It might surprise you, but there's a lot of Anonymous out there, and none of them have taken to wielding swords. On the other hand, there's plenty of Scientologists who don't seem to have had an aversion to physical violence towards protesters. Kinda make you think that this auditing stuff isn't really what it's cracked up to be!
I did a video on Mario Majorski, and when researching it, it was so sad. This guy (according to a friend of his that contacted me) said he was a very gentle person when he was on his meds. EH HEM.. yeah, Scientology didn't help him. They used him and threw him away. What excuse is there for that?
Arc, I'd love for someone like yourself to control someone that's severly bipolar. Someone that at one hour is ready to kill themselves and starts throwing stuff at the wall in a tantrum, then the next hour is talking about how life is so fuggin wonderful. You cannot control a severely violent person, a sociopath that wants to kill people. Scientology doesn't have a better method of treating any psychological disorder, and if so it would have been the standard already.
Yes, you ARE dodging. Stop bullshitting and go to the tech. We're not talking PTS here, we're not talking about the 20% of society that's suppressive (about 330 million). We're talking about the 2.5% of that 20% (about 8.25 million people) That LRH lists as being truly dangerous.
Stop pussy footing around! You call yourself a Scientologist? Stop being a squirrel and answer from THE TECH! Are you telling me that LRH's comments on that 2.5% was all rubbish? Hypocrite!
I'm not here to dispute the tech. Again, I followed your "research" and your assumptions are misguided. Yes, several people need to be purged in order to save the rest but only if a clean and clear determination can be made.
But you just did dispute the tech! JMBrandon9 was clearing asking about people that are in that 2.5%. The ones which, as you just said would need to be purged in order to save the rest.
So listen to his question again, understanding its referring to that 2.5% and please answer properly this time.
Thank you! That wasn't very hard now was it? I appreciate your honesty, even if it did take some coaxing. Now is there an answer to JMB's final question as to the manner in which they'd be purged. I didn't see any data on the means by which they'd be purged from society in my reading, and am also interested as to if that was at all covered by LRH.
LRH left instruction as part of the upper level OT's but just so much: Don't consider "purging" to be violent. You can remove somebody from society effectively by isolation.
Again, I know you're slow but it was an example and not the actual procedure. You can make sure that Scientologists would try whatever it takes to help such individual.
Just by isolation.. That brings an interesting question to mind.. Was it L11 that involved the complete isolation of the individual, or os that a different routine? I'm sure you know the one I'm talking about - I could mention a specific case, but I find it tacky to mention her name.
Nah, if I were to ask you something in private I'd ask something that would be of real interest to me.. like why the hell can't someone have been a bird in a past life! *G* I do have my burning questions, that nobody been able to give a satisfactory answer to.. that just wasn't one of them.
so you're gonna put someone such as myself in isolation perhaps? Well, I suppose that's not as bad as death. Or maybe it would be(depending on the circumstances). So would it be "gitmos" for the criminally insane? I'm sure you understand and realize over 2.5% of the human population is already confined in either prisons/jails/mental hospitals/supervised living (mentally disabled)/assisted living (physically disabled). So you think you can help someone witht the IQ of 87 live on their own?
The initial problem: You don't really care for an honest answer because it could show that your position as "proud critic" is nothing more than ignorance.
Psychiatry with their drugs don't seem to solve any problem but patch it and hope nobody asks for results. If an Auditor approaches a case like you describe, he will need to peal away all the layers of memories to identify the real problem. Even the "sick minded" have a reason why they act in such way. Don't worry, Scientology can help.
Help how? what if you can't? that's the problem, I won't get an 'honest answer', especially not from a cowardly bully like you.
You talk big, but you still didn't ell me how exactly auditors will go through these 'layers of memories' while the guy is looking at this person and licking their lips about how they will maim them.
You're not exactly one I'd want to talk to on this matter seeing as how you operate-
LOL! The only thing that would be peeled away with the person Brandon describes, is the auditor's face! Get real, ARC. The only thing Scientology is a replacement for is a hole in the ground to throw your money in!
if you had a better answer than Psychiatry, why don't you just spill it? If you had this great gift to give the world, why not just give? I think you're fulla beans arc. Scientology cannot cure a pedophile. Did you know very few pedophiles have their junk cut off so they are no longer a danger to society? (reportedly, it works) Scientology is a lot of talk, but I see no walk. Like anyone like that likes Science, show me evidence and I might buy it.
ARCwins, Sin't that reply a little out-tech? Do you mean to tell me that L Ron Hubbard did actually write the definitive works on "Institutional Dianetics"?
(as promised in Dianetics, and referenced in Scientology Ethics)
So care to tell us which Orgs are equipped with hospitals?
"Type III (pts) is far beyond the facilities of orgs not equipped with hospitals as these are entirely psychotic"
kick him out like they did epic sword guy. they are below 2.0 on the tone scale, and if they cannot be helped, according to marco and 7til, they are just let go. Most ethical people on the planet, rilly! ; )
Nice to hear from ya! I guarantee there will be complete silence...............unfortunate but true....
Great vid, would be interesting to hear how they would they deal with a serial killer? Remove him from society? We're waiting.... Addie? Shay? What's behind door #3?
Great video Brandon. Nice to hear you at last. You sound exactly like a US comedian whose name I can't quite put my finger on right now. I can see his face!
But to answer you very simple question: Easy - Vitamins, saunas, Niacin, and a nice chat to get rid of those pesky engrams.
Well, I'll answer that question!
After Psychiatry is gone, those people will have
their HUMAN RIGHTS back!
Only by that, it will make these people much, much, better!
marcotai 2 years ago
You mean they won't be considered 'degraded' and have their human rights stripped like us evil, evil SPs?
You're too late, Marco-
ARCWhines already said these people would be 'purged' from society.
Is that your idea of 'human rights'?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
ARCWhines is your friend!
LOL
People are not so stupid like you think or wish.
marcotai 2 years ago
Apparently you are ignorant to mockery.
I'll let the people with brains read the comments and see for themselves.
Good day.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Just : "APPARENTLY"
Yes, let people see for themselves and go back
hiding behind or under Tory skirt.
marcotai 2 years ago
I'll let you fling your poo like a good little monkey screaming in your cage, Marco.
I'll let what has been said speak for itself.
I believe I said good day.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
LOL..oh WOW! You REALLY stumped me here Brandon
~Sugar Biscuit
Well, let me ask YOU what is being done with them right now?
AdriannaDelMar 2 years ago
answer the question first then ask a question. better then replying w only a question and no answer...
thelonius2000 2 years ago
The more Police and Psych docs you put in to the society,the more crime and mentally ill you get...
(The type of personality you describe is some one on psych drugs..)
Flatjet 2 years ago
Nope, Flatjet. Having known people who have been psychotic long before any medication and become more or less normal afterward. Stop reading the missives of Scientology kept in L.Rons anal sphincter. I can tell you what the Co$ has done to psychologically disturbed members. I assume the rest of us would be treated the same. Brainwashing, mental conditoning and a few of the worst techniques used by Psych institutions in the past, which they famously claim are evil. That makes them hypoctits.
RyuDarragh 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You seam to have some interesting friends;-)
(What a Psychotic needs is peace and quiet ,nutrition and sleep.what he don't need is stray jackets violence electro chocks lobotomys...
Flatjet 2 years ago
Hehe.. yeah. When I look back at the people I've met in my life and the people I *wanted* to meet, I find the lists are somewhat the same, but far more interesting when they are random in order. World leaders, governors, nutjobs of all sorts, psychotics, candidates for sainthood, folks so smarmy they'd make your back teeth ache.
What Psychotics need (other than the obvious) are better diagnostics that can tell what *real* therapies are best for them. Drugs or counseling, etc..
RyuDarragh 2 years ago
Having known people who have been psychotic long before any medication and become more or less normal afterward.(That is thinking about eating your brain while waring your hair)Is AnonNation one of these? ;-)
Flatjet 2 years ago
No. Real people in real life. Schizophrenics, various OCD sufferers, a few psychotic individuals. Having been a "Ritalin Kid" diagnosed with ADD when my only problem was an unmeasurable IQ (it's currently in the top 1 percentile), I became a crusader for better diagnosis for folks with mental problems. Not the cookie cutter crap most folks were clustered under. Like circumcision, there's still a lot of crap in medical/mental health systems that needs change. This *is* the 21'st century...
RyuDarragh 2 years ago
Have a look on this; Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - Dumbing Down of America 1/7
Flatjet 2 years ago
I'll pass... conspiracy bullshit makes me queasy...
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
The real question is why do anonymous need these masks? first off they are so Paranoid of Scientology, i mean anons are so Paranoid to show there face that they need a mask hahahahaha best joke of the year!
yourboyken 2 years ago
1/10-
Google 'Fair Game'
see what Scientology does to people they know about that criticize their cult.
They constantly have scientologists trying to unmask and identify so they can harass the anonymous-- not only them, but their employer, family, friends, etc.
before you go shooting off your mouth, get your facts and know what you're arguing about.
Class dismissed.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
i dont give a damn about fair game, anonymous are a bunch of cowards period. see you better think twice before shooting off your mouth and posting videos cause you never know who you are fucking with, anons always "fair Game " people all day everyday plus you cannot be anonymous member and be a christian so fuck anons.
yourboyken 2 years ago
again, you're making presumptions you know everything about the anonymous (and me)
So let me school you again, kid.
First up, its pretty selfish of you to call somebody a coward because they hide their identity for possibly the sake of keeping their own family out of the red light.
secondly, being anonymous doesn't mean you have to be a specific religion.
being anonymous means to simply have no name or face.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
you also seem to not give a damn about the topic, either-
this video isn't even about the anonymous, this is about scientology and what they would do with disturbed people.
so come up off your high-horse.
I'm neither anonymous nor do I care if your myspace was trashed by /b.
If you have a problem with the anonymous, take it to them.
I think your problem is, is that you're an ignorant fuck who doesn't understand the whole concept.
Class Dismissed.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
you asked me what will i do to the truely disturbed, well the answer is try to help them that is my true answer not taunt them and try to destroy them even more, the truly disturbed are anonymous yes anons are truely disturbed so i am only answering your question so yes i am answering your question.
Class is back in session!
yourboyken 2 years ago
You're a scientologist?
Somehow I'm not surprised.
Well, since you're seriously looking for a fight- I suggest you go hit up 4chan.
I asked Scientology what they plan to do with the truly disturbed, and my answer was 'they will be purged'.
That was pretty much all I needed and its a good reason to encourage the anonymous to keep their faces hidden to they won't be "destroyed" by the fair game policy.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Anyways, you're not answering my question because you're not telling me WHAT you'd do with the disturbed, you're just claiming somebody is disturbed, what are you gonna do to them? 'Purge them', too?
Anyways, you keep running your mouth.
Scientology is collapsing from the inside out and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
and don't blame it on 'religious hatred', blame it on Scientology for failing to adapt and succumbing to change.
Class Dismissed
You've been schooled, and you fail.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
im the subsitute teacher because the old teacher is very sick, so yeah schools back in teacher with a PHD is back, Scientology is expanding at epic proportions that has never been seen before and yeah what to do with them? well first off take them off psyc drugs, then after they go threw withdrawl then we should educate people this is the answer Bamb! A+ now you have been Fired like Donald Trump has said now go run along now i am done with you.
yourboyken 2 years ago
LOL!
you came to ME!
dumbshit.
Regardless, you never answered my main question, all you did was show everyone how deeply rooted your hatred for people who criticize you is.
I have no interest to continue with you, Mr. Troll.
your motives here are clear, so you've been expelled.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
"im the substitute teacher"
Holy crap! Whose your substitute brain from? A cabbage? Do they have English classes where you are? I suggest that you enrol, immediately. See if there's a class specialising in logic as well.
"Scientology is expanding like never before" Only in the emptied-headed gullible folk like you it is!
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
spoken like a true retard.
thelonius2000 2 years ago
Excellent vid, JMB. You asked an important question and you kept it very focused.
I've always been interested that Scientology's goal was stated by Hubbard to be "a world without insanity, CRIMINALS and war" ("Danger: Black Dianetics!", HCOB Vol 1: The Journal of Scientology, Issues 3-G, 4-G and 5-G, 1952).
Freudian slip?
Plupsyeah 2 years ago
Their utopia is a dystopia for me...
No one is arguing about their anti-science stance...
What scares me is, unlike other religions, Hubbard created a system where dissenters could be silenced, "rehabilitated" and return back to the scilon system.
I hope i wont offend religious anons...
Nades129 2 years ago
their utopia is total enslavement of all mankind, leaving a few elite leaders at the top, "purging" those who won't agree with the way of life they wish to live.
I personally, enjoy my free will and would rather die resisting than live as scientology's slave.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Likewise. I find their religion crazy and immoral.
I just feel sorry for the ones that get trapped in hubbards system...
To scientologists out there, the ends does not justify the means. The world can survive on its own with out scientology's help..
And to tom cruise, scientology is a fuckin weak psychology. Get a text book of psychology.
Great vid btw JMB
Nades129 2 years ago
great vid
NearlyShaoKahn 2 years ago
Hey JB great vid,nice to know those 2.0's and under will not be removed,will Delmar and Shay put that in writing?
anon7724 2 years ago
its in writing further back on my page, hopefully hasn't been pushed back too far-, feel free to find and screencap it~
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Great video,the sound is a bit low though.You probably expected one of the "c**nt sisters" to try and answer but i guess they 'll just,as always,wuss out from questions like this.
ARCwins made himself look like a fool(again) so i personally think it was actually good that he replied. ;)
Scientolulz 2 years ago 2
Your voice sounds way different than I imagined.. but anyhow.. major props to you and 13H as you've gotten ARCwins to say some pretty crazy things in the comments.. stuff I may need to screenshot in fact ;)
CrazyDelaney 2 years ago 3
No problem- by all means~, CD~ just remember, he gave up all that information voluntarily,
Hope you find it all useful~
...by that, how did you think I sounded?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
You sounded just fine :)
CrazyDelaney 2 years ago 4
I do my best... or is that my very worst? Eeeh screw somewhere between the ends and the means it's time inspect your snares to see if you caught something juicy!
13Heathens 2 years ago 2
I don't even know why you're giving scum like ARCwins the time of day here, Brandon.
This is a guy who threatens you on a regular basis, fair games openly by posting people's private information, and screens all comments on his channel, only letting through posts he can actually answer so as not to be made to look like the arsehole he is.
I know you're an advocate of free speech, as am I, but that's no reason to let turds like ARCwins stink up the place with their fascist views.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 7
totally agree, Teos, but actually, I let him only prove my point further.
I've made it no secret I merely view ARCoward as a bully and wimp.
I welcomed his canned answers and lack of real answers as further proof of what and why we fight.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Sorry Brandon, but in this particular case, I respectfully disagree with you. Letting this prick give the same hymn sheet answers we've seen time and time again will only validate his twisted and evil viewpoint that what he has to say is "important". He doesn't see what you and I see in his replies. He doesn't see how mentally ill he is. He just sees this as an opportunity to promote his criminally convicted, human rights abusing, hate group and help his stats a little.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 6
ARCwins is trying to portray himself here as some kind of "reasonable" person, and had he conducted himself like that since day one, then I might have given him a chance and agreed that he should be allowed to give his point of view, no matter how twisted it actually is.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 7
Hover as we both know, this guy specialises in fire & forget insults, threats, fair game, and abuse. He only conducts himself in the "sensible" manner above when it suits his purpose. He is scum. Pure and simple.
I've said my piece. I'll let the rest of you sane people deal with that nutter from here on in. The stench is too much for me here.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 6
I respect your opinion, Teos- and I understand exactly where you are coming from.
Let it be known to all that ARCoward is nothing more than a hateful, dox dropping, cowardly, horse-shit spewing bully-
but even here, assholes have a voice, no matter how much it stinks.
I have no respect for ARCoward due to his use of intimidation tactics, and I'm glad the words that were exchanged will be useful to CD if nothing else.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Yes we do and we try to share this with as many people as we can. I have conducted many audits and I have seen the progress people make for the better even if our critics don't agree with us.
Again, come to Phoenix and I audit you and lets see what we can do for you.
ARCwins 2 years ago
keep dodging the question-
makes me look good~
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
I'm not dodging your question. First of all, each audit is specific and you can't hypothetical answer a problem if you don't even know that parameters. Again, you can audit and subsequently cure the person but it will require a face-to-face session.
Even if this is not satisfactory to you, even a psychiatrist can do better because not even he will make a plan to cure the person based on few known factors.
ARCwins 2 years ago
So, who is taking care of the auditor if the subject in question snaps and starts gnawing off the auditor's face?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Why do you think the auditor may not be in control of the situation? I'm not sure if you have been audited in your life and if at what level but the auditor would be fine and could act before such event.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Where were those auditors when Mario Majorski came to town with katanas?
If the auditors have such a skill why are they not guarding the 'church' in placed of armed security guards?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
I'm not sure about his full condition at the time but it has been rumored in the media that he was involved in Anonymous and snapped.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Nope, I don't believe that was the case, he was HEAVILY involved in Scientology for years, decades even.
Scientology failed him, it was a sad and obvious case.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Uuuh ARC.. it was rumored? You know better than to perpetuate rumors. I'm also curious as to what media you're referencing. I put more reliance in the words of the ex-scientologists view of that one.. They were quick to put the blame on L11.
They indicated that L11 can be very dangerous, even a small mistake in the process can cause a person to have a complete break down, either immediately or over time.
13Heathens 2 years ago
"it has been rumored in the media that he was involved in Anonymous"
You talk a lot of bullshit, ARC (that's in between your pathetic threats of course).
It might surprise you, but there's a lot of Anonymous out there, and none of them have taken to wielding swords. On the other hand, there's plenty of Scientologists who don't seem to have had an aversion to physical violence towards protesters. Kinda make you think that this auditing stuff isn't really what it's cracked up to be!
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
I did a video on Mario Majorski, and when researching it, it was so sad. This guy (according to a friend of his that contacted me) said he was a very gentle person when he was on his meds. EH HEM.. yeah, Scientology didn't help him. They used him and threw him away. What excuse is there for that?
shalindriaharam 2 years ago
Arc, I'd love for someone like yourself to control someone that's severly bipolar. Someone that at one hour is ready to kill themselves and starts throwing stuff at the wall in a tantrum, then the next hour is talking about how life is so fuggin wonderful. You cannot control a severely violent person, a sociopath that wants to kill people. Scientology doesn't have a better method of treating any psychological disorder, and if so it would have been the standard already.
shalindriaharam 2 years ago
Yes, you ARE dodging. Stop bullshitting and go to the tech. We're not talking PTS here, we're not talking about the 20% of society that's suppressive (about 330 million). We're talking about the 2.5% of that 20% (about 8.25 million people) That LRH lists as being truly dangerous.
Stop pussy footing around! You call yourself a Scientologist? Stop being a squirrel and answer from THE TECH! Are you telling me that LRH's comments on that 2.5% was all rubbish? Hypocrite!
13Heathens 2 years ago
I'm not here to dispute the tech. Again, I followed your "research" and your assumptions are misguided. Yes, several people need to be purged in order to save the rest but only if a clean and clear determination can be made.
ARCwins 2 years ago
But you just did dispute the tech! JMBrandon9 was clearing asking about people that are in that 2.5%. The ones which, as you just said would need to be purged in order to save the rest.
So listen to his question again, understanding its referring to that 2.5% and please answer properly this time.
13Heathens 2 years ago
These people will be purged - simple as that.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Thank you! That wasn't very hard now was it? I appreciate your honesty, even if it did take some coaxing. Now is there an answer to JMB's final question as to the manner in which they'd be purged. I didn't see any data on the means by which they'd be purged from society in my reading, and am also interested as to if that was at all covered by LRH.
13Heathens 2 years ago 2
R2-45 tech?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
LOL
ARCwins 2 years ago
LRH left instruction as part of the upper level OT's but just so much: Don't consider "purging" to be violent. You can remove somebody from society effectively by isolation.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Isolation?
Sooo... just ignore your problem until it goes away?
And that's better than psychiatry?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
That was just an example not to confuse purging with killing.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Locking somebody away in a dungeon until they 'go away' is killing-
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Again, I know you're slow but it was an example and not the actual procedure. You can make sure that Scientologists would try whatever it takes to help such individual.
ARCwins 2 years ago
So, I assume, by 'purging' 'abrupt deletion' and disposing of without sorry' are rough ways of saying 'getting rid of the MEST body', then?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Well, even after all that, my question is still unanswered-
very well, I will continue to believe what I already do-
Scientology does not have the answers it wants to reveal, it seems-
from what I gather, they'd rather deal with the truly disturbed the way primitive psychiatry did, locking them away and forgetting all about them.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Just by isolation.. That brings an interesting question to mind.. Was it L11 that involved the complete isolation of the individual, or os that a different routine? I'm sure you know the one I'm talking about - I could mention a specific case, but I find it tacky to mention her name.
13Heathens 2 years ago
You may want to ask such question via PM and not in an open forum,
ARCwins 2 years ago
Ah, That's right potential legal ramifications.. I will withdraw the question.
13Heathens 2 years ago
You can always ask in private.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Nah, if I were to ask you something in private I'd ask something that would be of real interest to me.. like why the hell can't someone have been a bird in a past life! *G* I do have my burning questions, that nobody been able to give a satisfactory answer to.. that just wasn't one of them.
13Heathens 2 years ago
yer so classy. : )
shalindriaharam 2 years ago 2
so you're gonna put someone such as myself in isolation perhaps? Well, I suppose that's not as bad as death. Or maybe it would be(depending on the circumstances). So would it be "gitmos" for the criminally insane? I'm sure you understand and realize over 2.5% of the human population is already confined in either prisons/jails/mental hospitals/supervised living (mentally disabled)/assisted living (physically disabled). So you think you can help someone witht the IQ of 87 live on their own?
shalindriaharam 2 years ago 2
So are they purged before or after they gnaw off an auditor's face?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
As soon PTS/SP determination is made.
ARCwins 2 years ago
ARCwins can sure talk a lot of horse shit, I'll give him that. All talk, no action. Just like his cult.
Scientology cannot cure diddley-squat, other than its adherent's ability to keep hold of their money and the soundness of their minds.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 5
"Yes, several people need to be purged in order to save the rest but only if a clean and clear determination can be made"
Way to go acting like a fucking Nazi.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 6
The initial problem: You don't really care for an honest answer because it could show that your position as "proud critic" is nothing more than ignorance.
Psychiatry with their drugs don't seem to solve any problem but patch it and hope nobody asks for results. If an Auditor approaches a case like you describe, he will need to peal away all the layers of memories to identify the real problem. Even the "sick minded" have a reason why they act in such way. Don't worry, Scientology can help.
ARCwins 2 years ago
Help how? what if you can't? that's the problem, I won't get an 'honest answer', especially not from a cowardly bully like you.
You talk big, but you still didn't ell me how exactly auditors will go through these 'layers of memories' while the guy is looking at this person and licking their lips about how they will maim them.
You're not exactly one I'd want to talk to on this matter seeing as how you operate-
Maybe 7TS or Shay- not a coward like you.
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
LOL! The only thing that would be peeled away with the person Brandon describes, is the auditor's face! Get real, ARC. The only thing Scientology is a replacement for is a hole in the ground to throw your money in!
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
if you had a better answer than Psychiatry, why don't you just spill it? If you had this great gift to give the world, why not just give? I think you're fulla beans arc. Scientology cannot cure a pedophile. Did you know very few pedophiles have their junk cut off so they are no longer a danger to society? (reportedly, it works) Scientology is a lot of talk, but I see no walk. Like anyone like that likes Science, show me evidence and I might buy it.
shalindriaharam 2 years ago
ARCwins, Sin't that reply a little out-tech? Do you mean to tell me that L Ron Hubbard did actually write the definitive works on "Institutional Dianetics"?
(as promised in Dianetics, and referenced in Scientology Ethics)
So care to tell us which Orgs are equipped with hospitals?
"Type III (pts) is far beyond the facilities of orgs not equipped with hospitals as these are entirely psychotic"
Scientology ethics pg190
(and that's just PTS, not even an actual SP!)
13Heathens 2 years ago
kick him out like they did epic sword guy. they are below 2.0 on the tone scale, and if they cannot be helped, according to marco and 7til, they are just let go. Most ethical people on the planet, rilly! ; )
shalindriaharam 2 years ago
see, now this brings flaws-
they want a "world without war, crime and insanity." will they just ignore the insane?
Will they have two separate societies?
Will one society be better off than the other?
That will lead to war...
So many flaws in the tech, its no wonder scientologists don't wanna discuss this kind of thing-
Thanks for your input, Shall~
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Odd... this video isn't showing up on the search list... is it just me or is anyone else having that problem?
Jmbrandon9 2 years ago
Nice to hear from ya! I guarantee there will be complete silence...............unfortunate but true....
Great vid, would be interesting to hear how they would they deal with a serial killer? Remove him from society? We're waiting.... Addie? Shay? What's behind door #3?
MARYBLEUZ 2 years ago
Great job Youngblood!! 5/5
wiskey1249 2 years ago
Next time you should increase the volume of your recording. :>
13Heathens 2 years ago
Great video Brandon. Nice to hear you at last. You sound exactly like a US comedian whose name I can't quite put my finger on right now. I can see his face!
But to answer you very simple question: Easy - Vitamins, saunas, Niacin, and a nice chat to get rid of those pesky engrams.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago