Very few reservations are able to continue with their traditions. The prices the Government said they would pay never was. There were actual plans on getting rid of natives. And the government barely acknowledges any wrong was done.
Any American worthy of the name recoils at the idea of foreign invasion, and for a hundred reasons. What little irony that the class responsible for organizing funding for the pro lobbies has no qualms about assigning their Hispanic dishwashers and pool cleaners overt second class citizen status, something that no Minuteman would probably ever do.
Illegal immigrants built the wall to keep out illegal immigrants. That's capitalism for you. Whoever has the means of production is in charge of the distribution of labor.
Let me get this straight, the border fence near San Diego that was designed to keep illegal immigrants out, was actually built using illegal immigrant labour? Oh the irony!
This stereotyping is ridiculous, i understand there's a lot of people that come here because they want a chance to make some cash and to make a better life, that's all well and good. None of that changes the FACT that over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals, most of whom are there for rape, murder and many other SERIOUS crimes. Not to mention the hateful Mexican supremacy crap that la raza spouts. If you want to come here that's fine, but please do it legally, DON'T BREAK THE LAW!
@corporacionmonstruo So just how retarded are you to think you've made any kind of a point? US prisons are for US criminals, we don't need to import criminals from other countries. Don't know if you've noticed this but there's a prison overcrowding population problem. 1/3 of federal prisoners being illegal aliens means thousands of criminals in the country who shouldn't be here. Your criticism, much like this video, is a joke that ignores any meaningful point or reality.
@bigboss686 if "US prisons are for US criminals" why "over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals"? i´m just quoting you,maybe you don´t know that if you go to other country and murder someone you will go to jail IN THAT COUNTRY,do you think you will have the right to call uncle Sam?
@bigboss686 if "US prisons are for US criminals" why "over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals"? i´m just quoting you,maybe you don´t know that if you go to other country and murder someone you will go to jail IN THAT COUNTRY,do you think you will have the right to call uncle Sam?
@bigboss686 if "US prisons are for US criminals" why "over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals"? i´m just quoting you,maybe you don´t know that if you go to other country and murder someone you will go to jail IN THAT COUNTRY,do you think you will have the right to call uncle Sam?
i dont know why America cant just let them in so what there is less jobs but there is more money now because we dont have to spend thousands of dollars to build a fence that you can build for 200 bucks with mexicans
They are ILLEGAL! Not paying taxes and spitting in the faces of the immigrants who go through the long process of coming to America. In our economy there are always going to be legal citizens to take hard jobs for less money.
their taking our jobs they dont speak the language they jumping the fence and take our land..........that what the mexicans said about the americins in the 1830s
i understand that there needs to be some stand in illegal immigration but honestly who's picking your fucken apples, your lettuce, building that fucken fence on the border. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! stop bitching about the jobs being taken because they are the ones you wouldn't think twice of taking. making under the minimum wage. this country is built on immigrants there is no true pure american except the natives before the europeans slaughtered them.
FUCK PENN AND TELLER!!! The whole schtick about minutemen should be illegals being aggresive toward Americans is WRONG!! The minutemen were men with avested interest in this country! That they were a band of foreigners shows how committed they were to the beliefs of America as home and as the greatest nation ever created. Common interest is what melds us as a country- this is why groups of lazy neanderthals coming across our borders unwilling to learn the language is a slap in the face
@ClumsyRoot ....if only that were the case...if there are only 6 million illegals in America (I'm going way low on that count) LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE and only 25 % of them were men 20- 50 years old (we know that figure is low) that would account for 1.5 million soldiers demanding a better Mexico!! They put their lives oin the line crossing the border...so why not simply organize and improve their country... Where are the Pancho Villas fighting against the corruption in Mexico??
I see your point, but it doesn't negate my point--that the immigrants who come here illegally from Mexico are not, for the most part, "lazy." Rather, they see the hopeless situation in their own country and wisely bail out.
I'm not sure where the money to pay all those troops would come from. Mexico currently spends only $4 billion a year on its military, enough to pay about 200,000 troops.
@ClumsyRoot "The hopeless situation in their own country and wisely bail out..." Holy shit - that sounds like something Americans will be looking to do soon.
@ClumsyRoot You've got your work cut out for you. Thanks to 8 years of that retarded cowboy fellow, emigration from America takes more skill than a Penn & Teller slight of hand.
@LJARSONBECK Being that half my heritage is Cherokee I've got a real problem with fences, boarders and even owning land. How can you own something thet will be here long after your gone. But you make a good point about Pancho Villa, I'm thinking America needs a few of them fighting against the corruption here.
LOL! A real nice way of expressing your sentiments. Kiss your Mother with that mouth?
I'm not a tame reservation "Injun", as I said previously I've got a real problem with fences, boarders, ect.. A few Lakota, Cheyenne, and other Tribes have members like myself researching the legality of the "Anglo-Squatters". Don't you worry about it though. Hey come out to the reservation casino anytime and lose.
The reality of my past family having 15 generations of claim to our ancestor's homeland in North Carolina, but not having rifles...... They were forced marched to Oklahoma and those that survived never let any of us offspring forget it.
Seems the current administration via a la Federal Reserve will be/is doing the same thing again. Let me know how your claim holds up?
@IarwainBen Yeah, and? You don't think the people who live in England now are the same that lived there 15 generations ago, or 30, or 60? This is the way humans are, we fight, for land, for gold, for god, for honor, for love ( The Illiad, read it), and most recently, and most akwardly for "peace". I'm not saying its nice, but it's what happens, humans are brutal, savage animals, no matter how civilized we claim to be, this is the main thing history teaches us.
@IarwainBen And yes, I'm aware that's changing topics, but you're the one who brought colonialism up, my point was simply that while a person is alive and able to defend what they have, they have claim to it. Is it a tenuous and altogether impermanent claim? Yes. Does that mean they have NO claim whatsoever? I don't think so.
love the fact that those who are vehemently against illegals NEVER place any blame on the employers who hire them. Forget the fact that employers are the ones who control who gets has a job and who doesn't, forget the fact that they're disregarding the law by paying them below minimum wage and feeding into the problem, those damn I-LEGALS ARE TAKIN' OUR JAERBS!
@Skinnyoompalumpa Well no. The Jews tried to settle Palistine beginning in the 1890's and the Muslims in Palestine tried to kill all of them. Sooooo...Its actually the opposite situation as to the original settlers and the American natives. What would be "like palestine and Isreal" however would be if the Mexican immigrants ever decided that they had enough and actually had the temerity to take up arms to defend themselves against those Americans trying to deport them.
@Skinnyoompalumpa "The land in Israel hadnt been owned by the jews since the roman empire"
And....your point? Texas and Arizona haven't been owned by Mexico since cir. 1848. People have the right to settle anywhere on this planet period. (UN charter). That means Mexicans, Isrealis, Palestineans, Americans, anyone.
@mjh012363 Native Americans can't be grouped like that; there were many, MANY nation states. Some welcomed Europeans, some didn't. And yes, "we" (our great great parents) killed many of them. But many more died of disease than of war.
@mjh012363 Because the Iroquois were totally peaceful right? Hahaha but I know what you're saying, but it's not that simple. It wasn't a planned slaughter of the Indians or an invasion like some people like to think. More people just kept immigrating, so they had to take up more land. The Indians began to regret this, and eventually tensions flared on both sides, until they tried to push us back off the continent. Unfortunately most tribes wouldn't agree to ally with others.
@polske322 " but it's not that simple. It wasn't a planned slaughter of the Indians or an invasion like some people like to think..."
I actually agree with you mostly. I never said it was planned in the same way the holocaust against the Jews was. I merely said sometimes it was deliberate.
@mjh012363 Alot of times people like to relate to the decline of the American Indian as some sort of "American Holocaust", which I despise. At least on the reservations they are allowed to have their own traditions and beliefs. Many other countries would have wiped them out totally.
@polske322 Other countries? Like Spain & Portugal, who started harsh but ended up in miscegenation? Or France, who just made big city "outposts" and couldn't increase their population to suppress natives? Thats only British and later USA people are the ones who keeped that shameful policy up to the 20th century. And made the people who populated the continent to live "freely" in small secluded areas. Thank you very much. Yeah,its not an actual genocide but that wouldn't make them happier.
@Edelgeist Did I ever say it made them happier? And the Spanish wiped out entire Native civilizations remorselessly. When it comes down to it, every country has done horrible things, but to act like the country should still feel any shame or owe anything after already acknowledging it and giving amends to those it has harmed is ridiculous. It's like saying the Germans have to use the death sentence because of the holocaust. It makes no sense what so ever.
@polske322 1) I was mostly responding to the "other countries would have wiped them out" part and tried to explain you that usa is just the same. 2) Mean spanish people wiped out civilizations, not the population. And they did it in late Medieval. USA kept that shameful policy up to the end of XIX century. 3) To say "sorry" you need to actualy feel sorry. Its not like "I said "sorry" so GTFO". They have no right to forget what they did. Of cource that doesn't allow parasitizing on their guilt.
@Edelgeist 1) We didn't wipe them out, in fact most Indians died of disease, not combat. 2)Neither did we, and they did it in the renaissance. 3) We did feel sorry, but you are parasitizing on guilt by acting like we should feel shame for our actions, which were not in any way a planned assault on the native populace. It was necessitated by the fact that our populations was increasing, and we needed to expand. Native Americans didn't want us to. It became a war, the only instance of Genocide was
@polske322 1) Jews in WW2 also died mostly of hunger,not combat ;) My point was that USA is not worser on that couse but not better either. 2) End of late Medieval is debated, in my country assepted that it ended with english civil war in XVII c. 3) You are a part of your country. You should feel ashamed on bad actions your country and people did just as you feel prideful on glorious moments of your country. If its past gone and the price is payed - no one have right to demand payback.
@Edelgeist Alright, but the main reason I argue this is people try to twist European immigration into America as a point for why we should allow mass immigration and give amnesty to illegals.
@polske322 so why did you tried to defend the point that USA people didn't eliminated indians? Just use that idea =) Now people of USA are "native americans" and if they wouldn't stop emigrants, they will end up in reservations and ghettos =)
@mjh012363 Do you havE ANY FUCKIN THING TO SAY WITH RELEVANCE THAT WILL HELP US TODAY instead of the run of the mill bullshit comment about how bad a white person is......MOTHER FUCKER come here I'LL DROP A BOMB ON YA........"THINK OF YOU CUNTtry" homie........and GET THE FUCK ON HOME........ohh yeahh.......:[.........P.S......nice huh?..........it's 2011 what the fuck are we supposed 2 do now. I swear if you are a cracker...BURN....and if not.....BET YOU WOULD FUCK A WHITE PERSON!
The irony is that most of the Mexicans come to US to WORK - they don't come to ride in gangs, they don't come to organize terrorists movements - but come to WORK: and mostly they come to do works that Americans are too lazy or "proud" to do by themselves. I can say that a man who does whatever job available to support himself and his family abroad has reason to be much prouder than an American who does not want to pick peanuts or do any "menial" jobs.
That's great, but they need to come legally. Breaking the law is illegal. I have no problem with people coming, but they need to come legally. I would have no problem if the laws were made simpler. In fact I want immigration reform to allow more people to come. But I don't want people who have no respect for our laws. And I can't find any of these jobs americans won't do, And I've been looking
The problem is the legal way is such a mess it's simply easier for them to work right out. It's a 2 year process during which time they're not allowed to work. What do they eat? Where do they go? They can't freeload in those two years.
Keep in mind some people also come here running for their very lives to give a better life to their children, and want to work, feed their families, and pay taxes.
Yes, I would like to see immigration laws greatly loosened, but i don't see a complicated legal path as an excuse to break the law. If I claimed the laws on machine gun license were too complicated do you think the ATF would care? Hell no, complicated laws should not be an excuse for breaking them. It is obviously possible to immigrate here legally because I know legal immigrants, they fly american flags and follow our laws
You sidestepped the point I made that many also come here running for their very lives. No parents would wait patiently for two years while papers go through when there's a chance they'll just get rejected if there's a risk their children will die any day or will get pulled into other violence. They get out, as quickly as possible through any means.
@vonVince They are saying that the open borders allow TERRORISTS to come over the border, not Mexicans who want to create terror movements. And they seem to have their own mafia now... hmmm... Anyway, if Mexicans are willing to work, they should work to improve their country. Like... You know... Revolution again, except not have a murderous dictator as a leader.
@vonVince i completely agree with you! im not from america but im actually thinking of going there to work...
and after all this stuff, im considering not actually bothering paying for a plane ticket, or Study for a visa or waste any money on those legal stuff...
Im going to just cross the border!
Oh! and by the way... im going to bring my entire family with me, is that ok? i dont have the money for them... but, what the hell, right? its open borders in the land of the free! :D
@vonVince Yes exactly finally someone who gets the point. It's like this in Sweden, immigrants come here to work, not fuck their country up. And then the swedes complain (some of them, the racist ones), "They're taking our jobs." No they're not, if you were out their searching for work, you'd get the job. Cause they did a show in the UK where some people in the UK made like a "billion" dollars before immigrants came so they told the immigrants to rest and let the brits work. They FAILED. Peace!
@vonVince Im 15 i wanted to work on an apple farm this summer but there are 100's of dirty illegals working there. If they want to come learn the language and then come legally otherwise get out of MY country.
@vonVince Have you ever seen dirty jobs? Have you seen many Mexicans on that show? with a 10% unemployement rate I doubt anyone would have a hard time find LEGAL U.S. residents to do even the dirtiest jobs.
I don't have a problem with immigration... I just have a problem with illegal immigration. If you want to immigrate go through the process... that's all i could ever ask.
If these illegals come in with style (like using a rocket car to jump across the border) they are welcome. Now climbing fences aren't stylish anymore, and neither is boating in.
there is nothing wrong with immigration, it is ILLEGAL immigration that is the problem. too many ppl assume it is immigration in general. look up mexico's immigration. being an illegal there can get you put in prison and it is considered a mexican citizens civil duty to report if they discover an illegal immigrant living in mexico.
I have to say, most of the points that Penn and Teller make are pretty weak. The unemployment ones are really dated. The one about the pilgrims is pretty stupid too. The native Americans obviously suffered a pretty bad fate, should we lay down and do the same, just because they did?
"These immigrants risk life and limb to live the American dream." Well, I would love to have the lifestyle of an American CEO, but that doesn't give me the right to break the law and steal one of their cars!
Funny. What are immigrants stealing? Jobs? What jobs? The ones we refuse to do anyway. You know what I call that? I call that, the CEO putting one of his cars out on the street with a free sign. It's not theft. It's taking what simply will not be used otherwise.
@AndrewDeLong So before illegal immigrants, there were no street-sweepers, construction workers, concrete-pourers, farmers, day-laborers, etc.? Yeah, I would love to have a job that allows me to sit around and get blown all day long, but for now I'll suffice with having a job "that nobody else would do, anyway."
Yeah, there were. And still are. Don't blame illegals for taking your job. Fact is, if you have a responsible employer, you'll have a job, and there are PLENTY of jobs out there. Again, illegals take the shit that nobody else will take, and will do twice the work. You want to fix that? Out work them, get motivated, and spend less time complaining about it.
I agree a wall does nothing. Its doesnt work and is a waste of time. If an illegal immigrant truly threatens you just shoot him....And dispose of the body hes an illegal! No one but his wife and 6 kids will be looking for him those ass holes cant speak english! Fuck a wall buy a gun!
Funny thing though. If it is found out that you shot an illegal, the prison time is just the same as if you shot a US citizen. Just because they are illegal, that doesn't mean your actions aren't. Idiot.
@AndrewDeLong No No No you misunderstood me like the fucking moron that you are. If one comes to my house to try to rob me, do a home invasion, or anything like that. I will blow his head off. And I dont give a shit.
Ohhhh! I see. Well, some fucktards might actually elaborate on that the first time around. But like the lesser fucktards like yourself don't do that on the first pass. But I see what you're saying now. Yeah, okay. That's a different story....somewhat.
well builders, do yourself a favor and halt the construction. reason being, youre wasting your time because like they said, they will get through if they want to.
One of The original minuteman's task was to put down any Indian upraises. If we translate that minutmans job in todays conflict, the minutman should actually be a trained group of inmigrants stopping any "americans" from raising a false about loosing their land.
I know a LOT of Patriotic Americans that hire illegals, and they won't hire Americans, ask them, WHY?If they don't find anybody here for very cheap labor our AMERICAN BOSS will go overseas and America will be more screw...
I can tell you there is no straightforward path to citizenship, with the possible exception of marriage. If someone marries a US citizen, the foreign partner can get a fiance visa and then wait 5 years to work?
Walls will keep them out? Do Mexicans not have ladder technology? Maybe we can just have law enforcement officers randomly pullover non-whit looking people and demand to see proof of their US citizenship.......no wait, that would be "big government" and BIG BROTHER. LOL Arizona sucks balls. ^_^
Illegal Mexican immigration is not like the arrival of European settlers. Well, I hope it isn't, because that would make the Mexicans the plague-bearing, murderous, land snatching Europeans, and the Americans get to play the role of the exploited Native Americans. Hardly seems like a pro-immigration argument to me.
I'm not really too upset over immigrants, I just dislike it when incomplete thoughts are mindlessly repeated as logical arguments.
@celticlofts this means in the simplest form if it is 1% and you buy a 100 dollar coat you pay 1 dollar in taxes, or if you spend 10,000 dollars on a coat you pay 100 dollars in taxes basically instead of having tax brackets and special savings for this guy and penalties because you do not know how much income you made mowing lawns on the side you pay based on how much you spend on items that are NOT food,energy,shelter, or medicine or considered essentials for life
aswell a flat tax on non-food , energy, transportation, and medicine would make illegals irrelevant considering they would buy as much food / shelter / and random shit as everyone else. and dakgumpa is still a fucking wet back
they say that illegals are ok but they say that a fence is not high enough to keep them away.. then they pay a bunch of "wet backs" (as they call us) to build a wall... wich looks very racist.. they don´t call them by they names... then they throw critics with no sense...what a crap... and there is some people who are agree with them...
@dakgumpa do you understand the satire of this show? its supposed to be sarcastic and point out the stupidity of minutemen and the idea that illegal immigrants are the problem. which they totally are not.
man native americans and latinos were here first europeans invaded our shit and now u call it ur? ur the "illegals" dumb racists fucks well im not talking to the ppl who opened their eyes and see this shit is retarded theyre kol but not all u racists fucks
Well yeah, that's kind of how conquering a country works. Plus, Native Americans were fighting each over territory long before the Europeans came. Start learning the difference between conquering and sneaking into a country.
@WhiteTiger225 Here's your argument: America was conquered ages ago, therefore illegal immigration is ok.
Do you not realize how retarded you sound? Also, do you not realize that Mexico was conquered too, or is your history about as good as your arguments for illegal immigration?
@rgmztxy When did I say that? All I did was say you can't justify pointless murders and bioattacks just because you want someone's land :D Way to put words in someone's mouth :D
@WhiteTiger225 Somehow I mistook you for brandonmaciel333. But back to the subject at hand: I'm not justifying anything. A dumbass kid made a dumbass comment about how the europeans are the illegals. I show him he is wrong by telling him the difference between conquest and illegal immigration, as well as mentioning that Indians were fighting each other over land before this happened. Learn the difference between correcting someone and justifying something.
I am Brazilian and I must say that 7 of 10 american people that I've met in my country didn't make a little effort to learn my language. I think that's a real rude negligence of them.
Former President Ronald Reagan himself gave a speech in which to mentioned a letter that he got from some man...it read something along these lines...
A person could go to Spain but they could not become a Spaniard. A person could go to France or Germany but they can't become a Frenchman or a German. But, anyone from any part of the world could come to America and become an American. That's the beauty of this country...we are far too different from other countries to compare :)
No it's not...it's not rude for anyone in any country to not learn the language. Different people have different reasons for not learning the local language. For some people it's difficult because they're old and it's really hard for them. For other people the reason is lack of formal education that allows them to learn a new language better. Whatever the reason is...I don't expect people to learn English in the USA. I would like them to learn English but I DON'T think that they HAVE TO do it.
Spanish is the other legal (came into the US with that proviso) language of New Mexico where I live.
The illegals pay sales, tobacco, gas, communication and property tax( part of rent).
They also pay social security(for which they receive no benefit) and income tax on false social security numbers. There employers can not afford to pay cash, they will not only pay the cash but have to pay the income tax on this mysteriously disappearing money. The South West was originally Spanish and Mexican
they tuk r joube!
alex93md 2 days ago
Very few reservations are able to continue with their traditions. The prices the Government said they would pay never was. There were actual plans on getting rid of natives. And the government barely acknowledges any wrong was done.
sintilusa 2 months ago
haha "Gummo." thumbs if you've seen the movie Gummo!
masonhartman 4 months ago in playlist Penn and Teller Bullshit!
@Trucidofy Haha, great comments!
Any American worthy of the name recoils at the idea of foreign invasion, and for a hundred reasons. What little irony that the class responsible for organizing funding for the pro lobbies has no qualms about assigning their Hispanic dishwashers and pool cleaners overt second class citizen status, something that no Minuteman would probably ever do.
thespacialone 5 months ago
Double Fence!
jerryvalez 6 months ago
OTRA VEZ? (again?) LOL
picoaga 6 months ago
If it keeps the Canadians out I am all for it.
hammerogod 6 months ago 16
They should have called the 6th guy at 3:59 "Karl".
codyownz2 6 months ago
Immigration is good! We need more lax laws.
Jc40k1 7 months ago
FUCKIN PILGRUMS
BanditV8racer 7 months ago
yea penn..theres candy
kindestchains 8 months ago
HE KILLED TELLER!!!
RazaTheHacker 8 months ago
Illegal immigrants built the wall to keep out illegal immigrants. That's capitalism for you. Whoever has the means of production is in charge of the distribution of labor.
RDBeatnik 8 months ago
Let me get this straight, the border fence near San Diego that was designed to keep illegal immigrants out, was actually built using illegal immigrant labour? Oh the irony!
ornitorrinco01 9 months ago
Illego? LOLOLOLOL
XellossElMago 9 months ago
finish the fence and put electricity to it so well you get the point
dolphinedick 9 months ago
hehehehe i love this
we are not taking over
we are not fighing we just want a better life
we want to be one
the american dream
YariuxD 10 months ago
Shouldn't we make our presidents pass some kind of retard test? Just think if we had 44 JFKs, we'd be the perfect country.
JM1993951 11 months ago
Yay the vans called Steve xP
StephenFiorentini 11 months ago
And 'Teller' really is his name, just 'Teller' man I wish these guys would come to the UK sometime x]
StephenFiorentini 11 months ago
This stereotyping is ridiculous, i understand there's a lot of people that come here because they want a chance to make some cash and to make a better life, that's all well and good. None of that changes the FACT that over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals, most of whom are there for rape, murder and many other SERIOUS crimes. Not to mention the hateful Mexican supremacy crap that la raza spouts. If you want to come here that's fine, but please do it legally, DON'T BREAK THE LAW!
bigboss686 1 year ago
@bigboss686 "None of that changes the FACT that over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals" so,the the 2/3 are...
corporacionmonstruo 10 months ago
@corporacionmonstruo So just how retarded are you to think you've made any kind of a point? US prisons are for US criminals, we don't need to import criminals from other countries. Don't know if you've noticed this but there's a prison overcrowding population problem. 1/3 of federal prisoners being illegal aliens means thousands of criminals in the country who shouldn't be here. Your criticism, much like this video, is a joke that ignores any meaningful point or reality.
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@bigboss686 if "US prisons are for US criminals" why "over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals"? i´m just quoting you,maybe you don´t know that if you go to other country and murder someone you will go to jail IN THAT COUNTRY,do you think you will have the right to call uncle Sam?
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@bigboss686 if "US prisons are for US criminals" why "over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals"? i´m just quoting you,maybe you don´t know that if you go to other country and murder someone you will go to jail IN THAT COUNTRY,do you think you will have the right to call uncle Sam?
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@bigboss686 if "US prisons are for US criminals" why "over 1/3 of the people in federal prison are illegals"? i´m just quoting you,maybe you don´t know that if you go to other country and murder someone you will go to jail IN THAT COUNTRY,do you think you will have the right to call uncle Sam?
corporacionmonstruo 10 months ago
Penn is the coolest guy who ever lived
StephenFiorentini 1 year ago
why don't you mention how the wall in the west bank really creates division. That's a better example then the berlin or great wall
skinnywhop87 1 year ago
This is not an issue of immigration, it's called racism ... can't we get over these prejudices?!
Victorgoleche75 1 year ago
fuckin pilgrims got all this illegal immigration shit started.
Anarchistt86 1 year ago 19
Everyday, about 15-20 kids will be sexually molested by illegal aliens.
daboodeef179 1 year ago
@daboodeef179
When illegal immigrants do it, it's bad, when good, white American's do it, it's okay.
Really, what's you're point with that comment? There are child molesters in every populace group, it's not like illegal immigrants do it alone.
wollclark 1 year ago
nobody owns land, rocks and soil have been here for millions of years, they will still be here long after we are gone.
daboodeef179 1 year ago
About the indians, For a long time when we first came to America on the Mayflower we traded with the indians and became friends with them.
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sabithaperera 1 year ago
i dont know why America cant just let them in so what there is less jobs but there is more money now because we dont have to spend thousands of dollars to build a fence that you can build for 200 bucks with mexicans
jimbobbyrnes 1 year ago
They are ILLEGAL! Not paying taxes and spitting in the faces of the immigrants who go through the long process of coming to America. In our economy there are always going to be legal citizens to take hard jobs for less money.
MellowMeah 1 year ago
@MellowMeah You ARE aware that most illegal immigrants do in fact pay taxes right?
ledzeppelin489 1 year ago
their taking our jobs they dont speak the language they jumping the fence and take our land..........that what the mexicans said about the americins in the 1830s
thearbiter221 1 year ago
i understand that there needs to be some stand in illegal immigration but honestly who's picking your fucken apples, your lettuce, building that fucken fence on the border. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! stop bitching about the jobs being taken because they are the ones you wouldn't think twice of taking. making under the minimum wage. this country is built on immigrants there is no true pure american except the natives before the europeans slaughtered them.
mibarra122 1 year ago
i'd actually hate to live in america.
tommyycore 1 year ago
FUCK PENN AND TELLER!!! The whole schtick about minutemen should be illegals being aggresive toward Americans is WRONG!! The minutemen were men with avested interest in this country! That they were a band of foreigners shows how committed they were to the beliefs of America as home and as the greatest nation ever created. Common interest is what melds us as a country- this is why groups of lazy neanderthals coming across our borders unwilling to learn the language is a slap in the face
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ClumsyRoot 1 year ago
@ClumsyRoot ....if only that were the case...if there are only 6 million illegals in America (I'm going way low on that count) LOOKING FOR A BETTER LIFE and only 25 % of them were men 20- 50 years old (we know that figure is low) that would account for 1.5 million soldiers demanding a better Mexico!! They put their lives oin the line crossing the border...so why not simply organize and improve their country... Where are the Pancho Villas fighting against the corruption in Mexico??
LJARSONBECK 1 year ago
@LJARSONBECK
I see your point, but it doesn't negate my point--that the immigrants who come here illegally from Mexico are not, for the most part, "lazy." Rather, they see the hopeless situation in their own country and wisely bail out.
I'm not sure where the money to pay all those troops would come from. Mexico currently spends only $4 billion a year on its military, enough to pay about 200,000 troops.
ClumsyRoot 1 year ago
@ClumsyRoot "The hopeless situation in their own country and wisely bail out..." Holy shit - that sounds like something Americans will be looking to do soon.
M0US3P0T4TO 1 year ago
@M0US3P0T4TO
Heh-heh... Sad but true...
I'm already trying to figure out a way to retire in Sweden.
ClumsyRoot 1 year ago
@ClumsyRoot You've got your work cut out for you. Thanks to 8 years of that retarded cowboy fellow, emigration from America takes more skill than a Penn & Teller slight of hand.
M0US3P0T4TO 1 year ago
@LJARSONBECK Being that half my heritage is Cherokee I've got a real problem with fences, boarders and even owning land. How can you own something thet will be here long after your gone. But you make a good point about Pancho Villa, I'm thinking America needs a few of them fighting against the corruption here.
IarwainBen 1 year ago
@IarwainBen Owning land? What fucking drugs do they put you on in the reservation?
lvsoad22 1 year ago
@lvsoad22
LOL! A real nice way of expressing your sentiments. Kiss your Mother with that mouth?
I'm not a tame reservation "Injun", as I said previously I've got a real problem with fences, boarders, ect.. A few Lakota, Cheyenne, and other Tribes have members like myself researching the legality of the "Anglo-Squatters". Don't you worry about it though. Hey come out to the reservation casino anytime and lose.
IarwainBen 1 year ago
@IarwainBen How does the fact that something will outlive you negate your ability to hold claim over it?
KingPiccolOwned 1 year ago
@KingPiccolOwned
The reality of my past family having 15 generations of claim to our ancestor's homeland in North Carolina, but not having rifles...... They were forced marched to Oklahoma and those that survived never let any of us offspring forget it.
Seems the current administration via a la Federal Reserve will be/is doing the same thing again. Let me know how your claim holds up?
IarwainBen 1 year ago
@IarwainBen Yeah, and? You don't think the people who live in England now are the same that lived there 15 generations ago, or 30, or 60? This is the way humans are, we fight, for land, for gold, for god, for honor, for love ( The Illiad, read it), and most recently, and most akwardly for "peace". I'm not saying its nice, but it's what happens, humans are brutal, savage animals, no matter how civilized we claim to be, this is the main thing history teaches us.
KingPiccolOwned 1 year ago
@IarwainBen And yes, I'm aware that's changing topics, but you're the one who brought colonialism up, my point was simply that while a person is alive and able to defend what they have, they have claim to it. Is it a tenuous and altogether impermanent claim? Yes. Does that mean they have NO claim whatsoever? I don't think so.
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whiteritchie 1 year ago
dude in black on the couch shut the fuck up you asshole. immigrants need not to be here at all. if your here your an American that simple.
whiteritchie 1 year ago
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love the fact that those who are vehemently against illegals NEVER place any blame on the employers who hire them. Forget the fact that employers are the ones who control who gets has a job and who doesn't, forget the fact that they're disregarding the law by paying them below minimum wage and feeding into the problem, those damn I-LEGALS ARE TAKIN' OUR JAERBS!
BushPrintzle 1 year ago
8:50 ****ING PILGRIMS!! ROFL!!! xD these guys are great!
WestVfan 1 year ago
Well actually the American natives welcomed us with open arms then we killed them. Nice huh?
mjh012363 1 year ago 72
@mjh012363
like palestine and israel..
Skinnyoompalumpa 1 year ago
@Skinnyoompalumpa Well no. The Jews tried to settle Palistine beginning in the 1890's and the Muslims in Palestine tried to kill all of them. Sooooo...Its actually the opposite situation as to the original settlers and the American natives. What would be "like palestine and Isreal" however would be if the Mexican immigrants ever decided that they had enough and actually had the temerity to take up arms to defend themselves against those Americans trying to deport them.
mjh012363 1 year ago
@mjh012363
The land in Israel hadnt been owned by the jews since the roman empire
Skinnyoompalumpa 1 year ago
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@Skinnyoompalumpa "The land in Israel hadnt been owned by the jews since the roman empire"
And....your point? Texas and Arizona haven't been owned by Mexico since cir. 1848. People have the right to settle anywhere on this planet period. (UN charter). That means Mexicans, Isrealis, Palestineans, Americans, anyone.
mjh012363 1 year ago
@mjh012363
See, you can't trust immigrants.
wesselbindt 1 year ago
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@wesselbindt "See, you can't trust immigrants"
Why not?
mjh012363 1 year ago
@mjh012363 Depends on the tribe really.
FatherTime89 1 year ago
@FatherTime89 (*music*) "People are people..." LOL!
mjh012363 1 year ago
@mjh012363 Native Americans can't be grouped like that; there were many, MANY nation states. Some welcomed Europeans, some didn't. And yes, "we" (our great great parents) killed many of them. But many more died of disease than of war.
SirColgrevance 11 months ago
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@SirColgrevance "But many more died of disease than of war.
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Which we gave them sometimes deliberately and your point is?
mjh012363 11 months ago
@mjh012363 Because the Iroquois were totally peaceful right? Hahaha but I know what you're saying, but it's not that simple. It wasn't a planned slaughter of the Indians or an invasion like some people like to think. More people just kept immigrating, so they had to take up more land. The Indians began to regret this, and eventually tensions flared on both sides, until they tried to push us back off the continent. Unfortunately most tribes wouldn't agree to ally with others.
polske322 7 months ago
@polske322 " but it's not that simple. It wasn't a planned slaughter of the Indians or an invasion like some people like to think..."
I actually agree with you mostly. I never said it was planned in the same way the holocaust against the Jews was. I merely said sometimes it was deliberate.
mjh012363 7 months ago
@mjh012363 Yeah, but I run into alot of people who like to act like it was a genocide. It's annoying.
polske322 7 months ago
@polske322 It was genocide. It just wasn't premeditated. It was done with depraved indifference however if you want to get legally technical.
mjh012363 7 months ago
@mjh012363 Well they were still allowed to live in America, whether or not it was genocide really varies based on what presidency it was.
polske322 7 months ago
@polske322 If you consider living on a reservation "living".
mjh012363 7 months ago
@mjh012363 I do
polske322 7 months ago
@polske322 Well Okey-dokey then. :/
mjh012363 7 months ago
@mjh012363 Alot of times people like to relate to the decline of the American Indian as some sort of "American Holocaust", which I despise. At least on the reservations they are allowed to have their own traditions and beliefs. Many other countries would have wiped them out totally.
polske322 7 months ago
@polske322 Well that's mighty white of you.
mjh012363 7 months ago
@polske322 Other countries? Like Spain & Portugal, who started harsh but ended up in miscegenation? Or France, who just made big city "outposts" and couldn't increase their population to suppress natives? Thats only British and later USA people are the ones who keeped that shameful policy up to the 20th century. And made the people who populated the continent to live "freely" in small secluded areas. Thank you very much. Yeah,its not an actual genocide but that wouldn't make them happier.
Edelgeist 6 months ago
@Edelgeist Did I ever say it made them happier? And the Spanish wiped out entire Native civilizations remorselessly. When it comes down to it, every country has done horrible things, but to act like the country should still feel any shame or owe anything after already acknowledging it and giving amends to those it has harmed is ridiculous. It's like saying the Germans have to use the death sentence because of the holocaust. It makes no sense what so ever.
polske322 6 months ago
@polske322 1) I was mostly responding to the "other countries would have wiped them out" part and tried to explain you that usa is just the same. 2) Mean spanish people wiped out civilizations, not the population. And they did it in late Medieval. USA kept that shameful policy up to the end of XIX century. 3) To say "sorry" you need to actualy feel sorry. Its not like "I said "sorry" so GTFO". They have no right to forget what they did. Of cource that doesn't allow parasitizing on their guilt.
Edelgeist 6 months ago
@Edelgeist 1) We didn't wipe them out, in fact most Indians died of disease, not combat. 2)Neither did we, and they did it in the renaissance. 3) We did feel sorry, but you are parasitizing on guilt by acting like we should feel shame for our actions, which were not in any way a planned assault on the native populace. It was necessitated by the fact that our populations was increasing, and we needed to expand. Native Americans didn't want us to. It became a war, the only instance of Genocide was
polske322 6 months ago
@Edelgeist The Trail of Tears under Jackson
polske322 6 months ago
@polske322 1) Jews in WW2 also died mostly of hunger,not combat ;) My point was that USA is not worser on that couse but not better either. 2) End of late Medieval is debated, in my country assepted that it ended with english civil war in XVII c. 3) You are a part of your country. You should feel ashamed on bad actions your country and people did just as you feel prideful on glorious moments of your country. If its past gone and the price is payed - no one have right to demand payback.
Edelgeist 6 months ago
@Edelgeist Alright, but the main reason I argue this is people try to twist European immigration into America as a point for why we should allow mass immigration and give amnesty to illegals.
polske322 6 months ago
@polske322 so why did you tried to defend the point that USA people didn't eliminated indians? Just use that idea =) Now people of USA are "native americans" and if they wouldn't stop emigrants, they will end up in reservations and ghettos =)
Edelgeist 6 months ago
@mjh012363 Do you havE ANY FUCKIN THING TO SAY WITH RELEVANCE THAT WILL HELP US TODAY instead of the run of the mill bullshit comment about how bad a white person is......MOTHER FUCKER come here I'LL DROP A BOMB ON YA........"THINK OF YOU CUNTtry" homie........and GET THE FUCK ON HOME........ohh yeahh.......:[.........P.S......nice huh?..........it's 2011 what the fuck are we supposed 2 do now. I swear if you are a cracker...BURN....and if not.....BET YOU WOULD FUCK A WHITE PERSON!
MegaIanlee 5 months ago
@MegaIanlee BTW I was born a US citizen. And I block racist filth like you. BLOCKED.
mjh012363 5 months ago
The irony is that most of the Mexicans come to US to WORK - they don't come to ride in gangs, they don't come to organize terrorists movements - but come to WORK: and mostly they come to do works that Americans are too lazy or "proud" to do by themselves. I can say that a man who does whatever job available to support himself and his family abroad has reason to be much prouder than an American who does not want to pick peanuts or do any "menial" jobs.
vonVince 1 year ago 62
@vonVince
That's great, but they need to come legally. Breaking the law is illegal. I have no problem with people coming, but they need to come legally. I would have no problem if the laws were made simpler. In fact I want immigration reform to allow more people to come. But I don't want people who have no respect for our laws. And I can't find any of these jobs americans won't do, And I've been looking
Reaganwannabe 1 year ago
@Reaganwannabe
The problem is the legal way is such a mess it's simply easier for them to work right out. It's a 2 year process during which time they're not allowed to work. What do they eat? Where do they go? They can't freeload in those two years.
Keep in mind some people also come here running for their very lives to give a better life to their children, and want to work, feed their families, and pay taxes.
Jaydoggy531 1 year ago
@Jaydoggy531
Yes, I would like to see immigration laws greatly loosened, but i don't see a complicated legal path as an excuse to break the law. If I claimed the laws on machine gun license were too complicated do you think the ATF would care? Hell no, complicated laws should not be an excuse for breaking them. It is obviously possible to immigrate here legally because I know legal immigrants, they fly american flags and follow our laws
Reaganwannabe 1 year ago
@Reaganwannabe
You sidestepped the point I made that many also come here running for their very lives. No parents would wait patiently for two years while papers go through when there's a chance they'll just get rejected if there's a risk their children will die any day or will get pulled into other violence. They get out, as quickly as possible through any means.
Jaydoggy531 1 year ago
@vonVince They are saying that the open borders allow TERRORISTS to come over the border, not Mexicans who want to create terror movements. And they seem to have their own mafia now... hmmm... Anyway, if Mexicans are willing to work, they should work to improve their country. Like... You know... Revolution again, except not have a murderous dictator as a leader.
MasterGamer123sas 1 year ago
@vonVince i completely agree with you! im not from america but im actually thinking of going there to work...
and after all this stuff, im considering not actually bothering paying for a plane ticket, or Study for a visa or waste any money on those legal stuff...
Im going to just cross the border!
Oh! and by the way... im going to bring my entire family with me, is that ok? i dont have the money for them... but, what the hell, right? its open borders in the land of the free! :D
Sincrol 1 year ago
@vonVince Yes exactly finally someone who gets the point. It's like this in Sweden, immigrants come here to work, not fuck their country up. And then the swedes complain (some of them, the racist ones), "They're taking our jobs." No they're not, if you were out their searching for work, you'd get the job. Cause they did a show in the UK where some people in the UK made like a "billion" dollars before immigrants came so they told the immigrants to rest and let the brits work. They FAILED. Peace!
Undergroundhiphoop 11 months ago
@vonVince Im 15 i wanted to work on an apple farm this summer but there are 100's of dirty illegals working there. If they want to come learn the language and then come legally otherwise get out of MY country.
rcman123 8 months ago
@vonVince Have you ever seen dirty jobs? Have you seen many Mexicans on that show? with a 10% unemployement rate I doubt anyone would have a hard time find LEGAL U.S. residents to do even the dirtiest jobs.
Kingofprinces85 7 months ago
I don't have a problem with immigration... I just have a problem with illegal immigration. If you want to immigrate go through the process... that's all i could ever ask.
TopHatGuy682 1 year ago
keep them out !!
katchkittie 1 year ago
Mexicans can´t enter "New Mexico".. because it's part of North America
Curious, isn't it?
maloyculero 1 year ago
If these illegals come in with style (like using a rocket car to jump across the border) they are welcome. Now climbing fences aren't stylish anymore, and neither is boating in.
AnosonTaryrm 1 year ago
fencing does not prevent corruption nor people who come here legally and overstay their visa's.
circusboy90210 1 year ago
there is nothing wrong with immigration, it is ILLEGAL immigration that is the problem. too many ppl assume it is immigration in general. look up mexico's immigration. being an illegal there can get you put in prison and it is considered a mexican citizens civil duty to report if they discover an illegal immigrant living in mexico.
Matterzinthehouse 1 year ago 2
the mongols went around the great wall of china and conquered china.. how is this going to work?
lifes40123 1 year ago
if u have 15000 usd to pay a coyote....you have money to take ur kids to Disney by plane and stay there. :)
alksin 1 year ago
I have to say, most of the points that Penn and Teller make are pretty weak. The unemployment ones are really dated. The one about the pilgrims is pretty stupid too. The native Americans obviously suffered a pretty bad fate, should we lay down and do the same, just because they did?
FFGG22E 1 year ago
Xenophobia. Fear of foreigners - or something very close to it. It's sad really.
TORLBC 1 year ago
Does the minuet man "commander" have a Hitler stash? It sure does look like it... probably just the shade
epicnessinacan 1 year ago
love that my people can build shit like this quickly
halloweenfan92 1 year ago
Somehow I don't think that these Minutemen guys give a hoot whether you are an illegal immigrant or a visa-carrying guest.
Jewchai 1 year ago
"These immigrants risk life and limb to live the American dream." Well, I would love to have the lifestyle of an American CEO, but that doesn't give me the right to break the law and steal one of their cars!
MattBeckstrom 1 year ago
@MattBeckstrom yes it does....
OscarLimaMike 1 year ago
@MattBeckstrom
Funny. What are immigrants stealing? Jobs? What jobs? The ones we refuse to do anyway. You know what I call that? I call that, the CEO putting one of his cars out on the street with a free sign. It's not theft. It's taking what simply will not be used otherwise.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong So before illegal immigrants, there were no street-sweepers, construction workers, concrete-pourers, farmers, day-laborers, etc.? Yeah, I would love to have a job that allows me to sit around and get blown all day long, but for now I'll suffice with having a job "that nobody else would do, anyway."
MattBeckstrom 1 year ago
@MattBeckstrom
Yeah, there were. And still are. Don't blame illegals for taking your job. Fact is, if you have a responsible employer, you'll have a job, and there are PLENTY of jobs out there. Again, illegals take the shit that nobody else will take, and will do twice the work. You want to fix that? Out work them, get motivated, and spend less time complaining about it.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
It's people's minds USA needs to change. So that they would get rid of the immigrants. Not building a bunch of walls and fences.
ParaglidingManiac 1 year ago
I agree a wall does nothing. Its doesnt work and is a waste of time. If an illegal immigrant truly threatens you just shoot him....And dispose of the body hes an illegal! No one but his wife and 6 kids will be looking for him those ass holes cant speak english! Fuck a wall buy a gun!
EricLynchSucks 1 year ago
@EricLynchSucks
Funny thing though. If it is found out that you shot an illegal, the prison time is just the same as if you shot a US citizen. Just because they are illegal, that doesn't mean your actions aren't. Idiot.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
@AndrewDeLong No No No you misunderstood me like the fucking moron that you are. If one comes to my house to try to rob me, do a home invasion, or anything like that. I will blow his head off. And I dont give a shit.
EricLynchSucks 1 year ago
@EricLynchSucks
Ohhhh! I see. Well, some fucktards might actually elaborate on that the first time around. But like the lesser fucktards like yourself don't do that on the first pass. But I see what you're saying now. Yeah, okay. That's a different story....somewhat.
AndrewDeLong 1 year ago
well builders, do yourself a favor and halt the construction. reason being, youre wasting your time because like they said, they will get through if they want to.
DuescherStoltz 1 year ago
One of The original minuteman's task was to put down any Indian upraises. If we translate that minutmans job in todays conflict, the minutman should actually be a trained group of inmigrants stopping any "americans" from raising a false about loosing their land.
clandrestino 1 year ago
I know a LOT of Patriotic Americans that hire illegals, and they won't hire Americans, ask them, WHY?If they don't find anybody here for very cheap labor our AMERICAN BOSS will go overseas and America will be more screw...
I can tell you there is no straightforward path to citizenship, with the possible exception of marriage. If someone marries a US citizen, the foreign partner can get a fiance visa and then wait 5 years to work?
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boysselle 1 year ago
A fucking fence isn't gonna stop shit.
Need a concrete wall. With armed private contractors.
TheMango121 1 year ago
@TheMango121 I agree we should have armed troops or guards every 100 yards and shoot them if they try to cross the border.
home3363308 1 year ago
The best neighbors ARE Porn Stars with broken window shades.
Chadwickzilla 1 year ago
@Chadwickzilla Thats funny shit.
wonshot 1 year ago
Walls will keep them out? Do Mexicans not have ladder technology? Maybe we can just have law enforcement officers randomly pullover non-whit looking people and demand to see proof of their US citizenship.......no wait, that would be "big government" and BIG BROTHER. LOL Arizona sucks balls. ^_^
omegawhitedog 1 year ago 2
@omegawhitedog Shit, a wall can't even keep the damn neighbor kids out of my fuckin' yard.
schadenfreudelolz22 1 year ago
@omegawhitedog poll vault
0BornofDesire0 1 year ago
Pontless. Not like the new fence at all.
FLHTP07 1 year ago
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If the wall were as big as in Israel I think the problem would be solved
Nefus2 1 year ago
@Nefus2
Can the US afford 1000 miles of fence like the ones in Israel?
carranza2001 1 year ago
Illegal Mexican immigration is not like the arrival of European settlers. Well, I hope it isn't, because that would make the Mexicans the plague-bearing, murderous, land snatching Europeans, and the Americans get to play the role of the exploited Native Americans. Hardly seems like a pro-immigration argument to me.
I'm not really too upset over immigrants, I just dislike it when incomplete thoughts are mindlessly repeated as logical arguments.
Neonpunk1 1 year ago 28
@Neonpunk1
Burgers and hotdogs on thanksgiving of 2300??... that would be funny heheh
usagi18 1 year ago
they didn't steal it. they kicked your ass in war. Mexico is a catholic country so why not just forgive.
mrboogaloo 1 year ago
ASSHOLES.
ashtonnesmith 1 year ago
wanna know how to deal with illegal immigration? kill each mother fucker that hops the border and spit on his corpse.
bokprop420 1 year ago
"We found a contractor, for legal reasons we'll call him Bob. Next he got a van, for legal reason we'll call it Steve."
Hahahahahah
FatherTime89 1 year ago
@celticlofts this means in the simplest form if it is 1% and you buy a 100 dollar coat you pay 1 dollar in taxes, or if you spend 10,000 dollars on a coat you pay 100 dollars in taxes basically instead of having tax brackets and special savings for this guy and penalties because you do not know how much income you made mowing lawns on the side you pay based on how much you spend on items that are NOT food,energy,shelter, or medicine or considered essentials for life
majikninja07 1 year ago
aswell a flat tax on non-food , energy, transportation, and medicine would make illegals irrelevant considering they would buy as much food / shelter / and random shit as everyone else. and dakgumpa is still a fucking wet back
majikninja07 1 year ago
What do you mean a flat tax on non-food?
celticlofts 1 year ago
were's the point of this magicians?
they say that illegals are ok but they say that a fence is not high enough to keep them away.. then they pay a bunch of "wet backs" (as they call us) to build a wall... wich looks very racist.. they don´t call them by they names... then they throw critics with no sense...what a crap... and there is some people who are agree with them...
dakgumpa 2 years ago
@dakgumpa do you understand the satire of this show? its supposed to be sarcastic and point out the stupidity of minutemen and the idea that illegal immigrants are the problem. which they totally are not.
scienceatheism 1 year ago
shut up wet back maybe watch some more p&t's b.s and learn what their saying
majikninja07 1 year ago
i'm not a wet back.. you moron...
dakgumpa 1 year ago
THen your one of them lying fucking jews go shove your candle stick up your ass
majikninja07 1 year ago
man native americans and latinos were here first europeans invaded our shit and now u call it ur? ur the "illegals" dumb racists fucks well im not talking to the ppl who opened their eyes and see this shit is retarded theyre kol but not all u racists fucks
brandonmaciel333 2 years ago
@brandonmaciel333 do you even know what your talking about? or are you mad and just feel like speaking?
scienceatheism 1 year ago 4
@brandonmaciel333 "and now u call it ur"
Well yeah, that's kind of how conquering a country works. Plus, Native Americans were fighting each over territory long before the Europeans came. Start learning the difference between conquering and sneaking into a country.
rgmztxy 1 year ago
@rgmztxy And that makes our murders and theft/conquering of someone else's land perfectly acceptable eh?
WhiteTiger225 1 year ago
@WhiteTiger225 Here's your argument: America was conquered ages ago, therefore illegal immigration is ok.
Do you not realize how retarded you sound? Also, do you not realize that Mexico was conquered too, or is your history about as good as your arguments for illegal immigration?
rgmztxy 1 year ago
@rgmztxy When did I say that? All I did was say you can't justify pointless murders and bioattacks just because you want someone's land :D Way to put words in someone's mouth :D
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rgmztxy 1 year ago
@WhiteTiger225 Somehow I mistook you for brandonmaciel333. But back to the subject at hand: I'm not justifying anything. A dumbass kid made a dumbass comment about how the europeans are the illegals. I show him he is wrong by telling him the difference between conquest and illegal immigration, as well as mentioning that Indians were fighting each other over land before this happened. Learn the difference between correcting someone and justifying something.
rgmztxy 1 year ago
@rgmztxy Learn to post to the right person and I won't have too :p
WhiteTiger225 1 year ago
I am Brazilian and I must say that 7 of 10 american people that I've met in my country didn't make a little effort to learn my language. I think that's a real rude negligence of them.
Gilroben 2 years ago 2
When I lived in Germany I was expect to learn the local language we didn't have of that Für Englischstoß einer goin' on
johnmaylivesv 1 year ago
Former President Ronald Reagan himself gave a speech in which to mentioned a letter that he got from some man...it read something along these lines...
A person could go to Spain but they could not become a Spaniard. A person could go to France or Germany but they can't become a Frenchman or a German. But, anyone from any part of the world could come to America and become an American. That's the beauty of this country...we are far too different from other countries to compare :)
andyrooney11 1 year ago 2
No it's not...it's not rude for anyone in any country to not learn the language. Different people have different reasons for not learning the local language. For some people it's difficult because they're old and it's really hard for them. For other people the reason is lack of formal education that allows them to learn a new language better. Whatever the reason is...I don't expect people to learn English in the USA. I would like them to learn English but I DON'T think that they HAVE TO do it.
andyrooney11 1 year ago 2
Spanish is the other legal (came into the US with that proviso) language of New Mexico where I live.
The illegals pay sales, tobacco, gas, communication and property tax( part of rent).
They also pay social security(for which they receive no benefit) and income tax on false social security numbers. There employers can not afford to pay cash, they will not only pay the cash but have to pay the income tax on this mysteriously disappearing money. The South West was originally Spanish and Mexican
awakeningnow 2 years ago
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Gambit08 2 years ago