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  • Well... I have something to say at this respect. Vajrapani is a Buddha, an emanation of Buddha Shakyamuni and all Buddha's Power and it is considered even a Dharmapala...

  • Yes, Dorje Shugden practitioners are allowed to build temples and practice the deity in America, in the regions of India that have religious freedom - the only place where they are not allowed to practice Dorje Shugden is Tibetan community in India where Dalai Lama has control full control and there is no religious freedom.

  • Fully enlightened Buddhas in their wrathful form.

    Explains HH Dalai Lama point of view in banning Dorje Shugden practice within Gelug lineage -- essentially to curry the favor of the Chinese by making Tibetan Buddhism "non-sectarian."

  • Fully enlightened Buddhas in their wrathful form.

  • yes, but Palden Lhamo also insists that practicioner should attain enlightanment, becaus she is enlighted.the Black Tara emanation.

    

  • i hope that one day when the ban is lifted or fades away, the wall between Gaden Shartse and Shar Gaden will be removed and Gaden will be united again. I pray for that to happen so the Sangha will not be split and they can propitiate the holy Dorje Shugden openly again.

  • Gaden Monastery was built by Dulzin Drakpa Gyeltsen who in a future lifetime, manifested as Dorje Shugden. So it is ironic that Gaden monastery has today split into two - Shar Gaden and Gaden Shartse. Shar Gaden follows DS and Gaden Shartse doesn't.

  • @wisdombeing :( yes i hadn't thought of that... but then again, perhaps by Shar Gaden "splitting" away a whole new group of practitioners will arise and more practitioners will arise. So actually, the Gaden lineage grows and grows - like the broomstick in Fantasia that splits off into thousands and thousands of pieces the more Mickey Mouse tried to "kill" it!

  • Yep that's true if you didn't know the gaden tripa is tsongkhapa's representative on earth. This is what is called a lineage passed down all the way from the first Buddha until today.

  • Yep that's true if you didn't know the gaden tripa is tsongkhapa's representative on earth. This is what is called a lineage passed down all the way from the first Buddha until today.

  • Yeah, on top of that. The Gaden Trisur Rinpoche Lungrik Namgyal or a retired Gaden Tripa - he practices Dorje Shugden and has recently come out and has joined Shar Gaden Monastery. Shar Gaden was recently established for the monastic community who wouldn't swear in to renounce their lineage practice of Dorje Shugden.

  • something to clarify,

    HHDL is not the defacto leader of Gelugpa TIbetan Buddhism. HH the Gaden Tripa or the Gaden Throne holder is the leader of Gelupas.

    Please take note that in order to find the true nature of self, we must look for an outer being to inspire and lead us within ourselves.

    get your facts right man

  • Through good motivation and sincere practice, may we create the causes for ban to the lifted. And many to take refuge in Dharmapala Dorje Shugden!visit dorjeshugden(dot)com

  • Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.

    — Buddha

  • THE DALAI LAMA IS GOING TO COURT!!

    Indian High court in New Delhi is summoning Dalai Lama to court due to his unconstitutional ban on the ancient practice of Dorje Shugden on his own people.

    In India where there are so many religions and their subsects, it is unheard of that a secular/religious leader can issue such a ban.

    It has shocked the Indian psyche.

    Preliminary hearings have began.

    Aljazeera news has a special report. It is posted on the youtube

  • I am still waiting - you are looking for a sensation and not for truth.

  • HH the 5th and 14th Dalai Lamas BOTH have composed prayers to praise and propitiate Dorje Shugden? Were they wrong? Were they unenlightened when they composed it?

    Dalai Lama's gurus have praised and written prayers/rituals/rites to Dorje Shugden saying he is a Buddha.

    The most elite and highest of Gelug Lamas such as Panchen Rinpoche all have and still are worshipping Dorje Shugden.

    The practice of Dorje Shugden has become big and international. HH Dalai Lama made that happen.

  • Dorje shugden is a ghost or not is NOT THE POINT.

    The point is that Dalai Lama MAY NOT BAN ANY FORM OF WORSHIP IN A FREE AND DEMOCRATIC INDIA.

    Because of this ban, Dalai Lama is going to court. He has been summoned by the High Court in Delhi to plead his case.

    By the Dalai lama going to court is a huge message that WHAT HE IS DOING IS WRONG.

    United Nations have sent representatives to investigate the ban from Dalai lama as it is not what a democratic leader should do.

  • The ban the Tibetan Govt has on Dorje Shugden is making him bigger in the world. Ironically, if they want to slow his practice down, they must lift the ban. Chinese govt backed up by 1.2 billion citizens is promoting the practice vehemently. For whatever reasons, doesnt matter, the fact is that they are promoting. It all started because Tibetan Govt said the practice should be stopped. So it can only get bigger and now backed up by Tibet's 2nd highest lama, the panchen rinpoche.

  • Rin-po-chay

    This is how you pronounce.

    Are you a student doing this for school?

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  • Very sad. Why cant the DL just let people follow their holy lineage gurus without them being demonized and separated from their monasteries. There was no problem before the DL started stiring up mis-trust and spreading wrong info, he has destroyed the reputation of many holy masters. People rely on DS to help them protect the precious Dharma in their minds not against other people. Please let people have religious freedom!

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